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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 56

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« Reply #19515 on: August 06, 2019, 08:24:03 PM »

If the more extreme elements of the Tory party along with the Labour Party  (party politics before the country - what clowns) - particularly the Brexit supporting Labour MP’s had voted for the deal then we wouldn't be in this mess.

The irony is the remainers in Parliament who have constantly tried every trick in the book to block Brexit may well help bring about a no deal Brexit.

All of the above should be embarrassed. This could have been sorted months ago.  

This all over.

.....and no way Boris survives a vote of confidence, with a few Tories voting against him and surely only Kate Hoey (leaving parliament) from the Opposition votes for the Gov?....so its all going to kick off big time in September.

Surely the point is we shouldn’t just want this to be over. We should want it to be resolved in a whichever way best serves the interests of the country. If there was a solution to the border problem, that would be a start.
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« Reply #19516 on: August 06, 2019, 08:25:23 PM »

By trying to appeal to everyone the Labour party front bench have had no explainable position for three years and will be associated with the impact of no deal as and when it happens, the exact opposite of what their plan was.

That takes some doing. Certainly right up there with the ERG for daftness.
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« Reply #19517 on: August 06, 2019, 08:30:59 PM »

Have enjoyed the discussion today.

How are the EU meant to change the deal to remove the backstop when doing so tears up the good friday agreement and possibly (probably?) leads to a resumption of violence in Northern Ireland?

For all its faults the WA was a very elegant solution to the Border problem.

Boris must be receiving advice that no deal risks peace in NI.

I try but i can't get my head round this part of it yet
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« Reply #19518 on: August 06, 2019, 08:36:31 PM »

By trying to appeal to everyone the Labour party front bench have had no explainable position for three years and will be associated with the impact of no deal as and when it happens, the exact opposite of what their plan was.

That takes some doing. Certainly right up there with the ERG for daftness.

Agreed that they would end up with a share of the blame (rightly so imo). Boris does know the true size of the downside though, so I’m still convinced that no deal doesn’t play out. Certainly no interest in ‘no deal’ at 17/10 (PP and bf)
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« Reply #19519 on: August 06, 2019, 09:15:47 PM »

By trying to appeal to everyone the Labour party front bench have had no explainable position for three years and will be associated with the impact of no deal as and when it happens, the exact opposite of what their plan was.

That takes some doing. Certainly right up there with the ERG for daftness.

On the other hand if they had taken a firm position it would have immediately alienated 48%+ of the electorate.
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« Reply #19520 on: August 06, 2019, 09:25:45 PM »

By trying to appeal to everyone the Labour party front bench have had no explainable position for three years and will be associated with the impact of no deal as and when it happens, the exact opposite of what their plan was.

That takes some doing. Certainly right up there with the ERG for daftness.

On the other hand if they had taken a firm position it would have immediately alienated 48%+ of the electorate.

You can’t refuse to have a position though, it’s woefully inadequate. They’re are intelligent people, they should weigh up all of the information and stand for whatever they feel best represents the interests of the country. No doubt for a long time in 2018 and early 2019 they thought (rightly or wrongly) that another general election would best serve the interests of the country (minority government, breaking every known record for not getting policy/legislation through parliament, not even able to control the business of the house).
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« Reply #19521 on: August 06, 2019, 10:38:33 PM »

By trying to appeal to everyone the Labour party front bench have had no explainable position for three years and will be associated with the impact of no deal as and when it happens, the exact opposite of what their plan was.

That takes some doing. Certainly right up there with the ERG for daftness.

On the other hand if they had taken a firm position it would have immediately alienated 48%+ of the electorate.

They had an explainable position up to the point A50 was invoked. Thereafter they chose to be morons. If they'd stuck with the initial position they would have mildly alienated around 20-25% of the electorate, being the nutter remainiacs, who have since managed to gestate and fuck this all up for everybody
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« Reply #19522 on: August 06, 2019, 10:45:24 PM »

Politicians must weigh up all the evidence and stand for what they feel is in the best interests of the country?

No Deal risks peace in Ireland?

Irish politicians resolute that no new negotiating gonna happen, no pressure on EU to think again

Irish folk must be thinking how economic ruin and gambling peace is in their best interests
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« Reply #19523 on: August 06, 2019, 11:21:16 PM »

At the end of this 3yr period of clownery I do think no deal is the best outcome. The shock reality will be like an angry mum banging her kids heads together with great force. BANG! Suddenly there’ll be a great opportunity to add big bucks to economy for both sides.

Imagine two kids squabbling over the thought of a single chicken nugget when they both have full stomachs? Easy to not give an inch.

Now imagine few days later both kids starving and underneath a glass box there’s Big Mac, fries, and prob a McFlurry. All they gotta do is lift the box together. Harder to just sit there staring at the box doing nothing. Few days later they add quarter pounder with cheese and hot apple pie and kfc family bucket. Still staring doing nothing kids?
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« Reply #19524 on: August 06, 2019, 11:28:11 PM »

EDL - 96% voted Brexit

Boris Johnson - Voted Brexit

Ohio Murderer - His social media supported Brexit

Texas shooter - His social media supported Brexit

Tommy Robinson - Voted Brexit and rallied for Brexit

Finsbury Park attacker - Tommy Robinson fan, Voted Brexit

Jo Cox Murderer - Supported Brexit

Peadophiles - Daily Mail reported 71% support Brexit.
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« Reply #19525 on: August 06, 2019, 11:35:46 PM »

EDL - 96% voted Brexit

Boris Johnson - Voted Brexit

Ohio Murderer - His social media supported Brexit

Texas shooter - His social media supported Brexit

Tommy Robinson - Voted Brexit and rallied for Brexit

Finsbury Park attacker - Tommy Robinson fan, Voted Brexit

Jo Cox Murderer - Supported Brexit

Peadophiles - Daily Mail reported 71% support Brexit.

I'm a remoaner, but your posts ITT are pretty poor, and that's being polite.
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« Reply #19526 on: August 06, 2019, 11:41:20 PM »

EDL - 96% voted Brexit

Boris Johnson - Voted Brexit

Ohio Murderer - His social media supported Brexit

Texas shooter - His social media supported Brexit

Tommy Robinson - Voted Brexit and rallied for Brexit

Finsbury Park attacker - Tommy Robinson fan, Voted Brexit

Jo Cox Murderer - Supported Brexit

Peadophiles - Daily Mail reported 71% support Brexit.

I'm a remoaner, but your posts ITT are pretty poor, and that's being polite.


They aren’t pretty poor - They are what’s being reported by other media outlets. I’m not passing my own opinion.
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« Reply #19527 on: August 07, 2019, 02:25:40 AM »

Peadophiles - Daily Mail reported 71% support Brexit.

Some people don't realise that you don't have to tell the guy from Gallup everything about yourself when they phone up to do the poll.
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« Reply #19528 on: August 07, 2019, 03:18:06 AM »

Peadophiles - Daily Mail reported 71% support Brexit.

Some people don't realise that you don't have to tell the guy from Gallup everything about yourself when they phone up to do the poll.

Are you trying to call me a peadophile? I’ve screenshotted this, btw.,

Expect it to be take down before the morning.


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« Reply #19529 on: August 07, 2019, 06:50:43 AM »

Peadophiles - Daily Mail reported 71% support Brexit.

Some people don't realise that you don't have to tell the guy from Gallup everything about yourself when they phone up to do the poll.

Are you trying to call me a peadophile? I’ve screenshotted this, btw.,

Expect it to be take down before the morning.


Does your mind twist everything you read?

Everyone of your posts completely misses the point and this one is no different.
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