The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[aaron1867]

Peadophiles - Daily Mail reported 71% support Brexit.

Some people don't realise that you don't have to tell the guy from Gallup everything about yourself when they phone up to do the poll.

Are you trying to call me a peadophile? I’ve screenshotted this, btw.,

Expect it to be take down before the morning.

Hi Aaron

Andrew is not implying anything about you personally. He was observing that it was strange that when contacted by a pollster that people would identify as a paedophile such that a statistic such as that which you stated could be produced by a polling company

On a broader point please can you stop conflating that because a small subset of Brexit supporters support far right groups, and an even smaller subset on a global basis commit crimes, that this disqualifies anyone who supports Brexit from having that view?

It's really not welcome and we regard it as unnecessary. It adds nothing to the tone of debate on here and really doesn't need repeating ad nauseam.

If you really have to keep posting in this manner, at least produce corroboration and sources for statistics and observations to at least give them credence.

Finally, why add "Boris Johnson - voted Brexit" to your rogues list? Whether a fan or not, its hardly appropriate to suggest he is in the same category as the EDL, racists, murderers and paedophiles is it?

I would imagine that this wasn't undertaken by the Daily Mail. I am unsure of why they posted it too and what you say.

PS - Isn't Boris a serial liar & adulterer?

[MANTIS01]

Johnson decides to turn Britain into a de facto dictatorship and the forum brexiters giggle.

The choice of remain wordage has been my only source of joy throughout Brexit

Take Boris for eg In just the last 24hrs he’s moved from bumbling hedgehog hair paedo to iron fist dictator

All very hilarious and very incredible

[doubleup]

Johnson decides to turn Britain into a de facto dictatorship and the forum brexiters giggle.

The choice of remain wordage has been my only source of joy throughout Brexit

Take Boris for eg In just the last 24hrs he’s moved from bumbling hedgehog hair paedo to iron fist dictator

All very hilarious and very incredible

A leader not elected by the people or supported by the people's representatives refuses to step down, mantis still giggles.

[MANTIS01]

Johnson decides to turn Britain into a de facto dictatorship and the forum brexiters giggle.

The choice of remain wordage has been my only source of joy throughout Brexit

Take Boris for eg In just the last 24hrs he’s moved from bumbling hedgehog hair paedo to iron fist dictator

All very hilarious and very incredible

A leader not elected by the people or supported by the people's representatives refuses to step down, mantis still giggles.

Yea must admit the aghast clutching of pearls at the sight of perfectly legal behaviours is mildly amusing

Esp from the ignore democratic referendum and get unelected queen involved camp

[BigAdz]

Johnson decides to turn Britain into a de facto dictatorship and the forum brexiters giggle.

The choice of remain wordage has been my only source of joy throughout Brexit

Take Boris for eg In just the last 24hrs he’s moved from bumbling hedgehog hair paedo to iron fist dictator

All very hilarious and very incredible

A leader not elected by the people or supported by the people's representatives refuses to step down, mantis still giggles.

Yea must admit the aghast clutching of pearls at the sight of perfectly legal behaviours is mildly amusing

Esp from the ignore democratic referendum and get unelected queen involved camp

 

[kukushkin88]

Johnson decides to turn Britain into a de facto dictatorship and the forum brexiters giggle.

The choice of remain wordage has been my only source of joy throughout Brexit

Take Boris for eg In just the last 24hrs he’s moved from bumbling hedgehog hair paedo to iron fist dictator

All very hilarious and very incredible

A leader not elected by the people or supported by the people's representatives refuses to step down, mantis still giggles.

Yea must admit the aghast clutching of pearls at the sight of perfectly legal behaviours is mildly amusing

Esp from the ignore democratic referendum and get queen involved camp

I know it’s silly to engage as though you as if you are a serious contributor on stuff like this. I’ll have another go though.

Dominic Grieve is a QC and a former Attorney General, you are disagreeing with his view as to whether or not something is legal (remember when you used to tell some of the countries better poker players how to play poker on this forum, that was funny :-).

You are someone who writes endless steams of nonsense (the Aaron of the right) about politics on a poker forum.

Whose view should people value?

[nirvana]

Johnson decides to turn Britain into a de facto dictatorship and the forum brexiters giggle.

The choice of remain wordage has been my only source of joy throughout Brexit

Take Boris for eg In just the last 24hrs he’s moved from bumbling hedgehog hair paedo to iron fist dictator

All very hilarious and very incredible

A leader not elected by the people or supported by the people's representatives refuses to step down, mantis still giggles.

Think we can giggle at some theoretical scenarios without losing too much sleep, not that I personally would giggle - Herr Johnson was originally elected by people and then put forward by people's representatives for higher office and then voted for again by people so he has quite the mandate tbf, given how our constitution and the Tory party works these days. One day this mandate will be withdrawn, it might be soon

[kukushkin88]

Also, someone who says they’re fine with lying as a part of any political campaign, trying to be an authority on whether something is democratic or not.

[aaron1867]

All for remaining in the EU and all that, but the BBC bias against Brexit is horrendous. They try everything they can to promote remain.

Won’t be long until they’ve got Tighty doing the paper reviews

[MANTIS01]

Johnson decides to turn Britain into a de facto dictatorship and the forum brexiters giggle.

The choice of remain wordage has been my only source of joy throughout Brexit

Take Boris for eg In just the last 24hrs he’s moved from bumbling hedgehog hair paedo to iron fist dictator

All very hilarious and very incredible

A leader not elected by the people or supported by the people's representatives refuses to step down, mantis still giggles.

Yea must admit the aghast clutching of pearls at the sight of perfectly legal behaviours is mildly amusing

Esp from the ignore democratic referendum and get queen involved camp

I know it’s silly to engage as though you as if you are a serious contributor on stuff like this. I’ll have another go though.

Dominic Grieve is a QC and a former Attorney General, you are disagreeing with his view as to whether or not something is legal (remember when you used to tell some of the countries better poker players how to play poker on this forum, that was funny :-).

You are someone who writes endless steams of nonsense (the Aaron of the right) about politics on a poker forum.

Whose view should people value?

Grieve claims not stepping down after a vote of no confidence would be "unconstitutional" not "illegal" so I'm not disagreeing with his view. I'm disagreeing with your incorrect interpretation of his view.

So tbf the answer to your question 'whose view should people value?' is 'not yours'.

Here's the view of Jonathan Sumption, a former supreme high court judge..."Johnson would be entitled to stay on as prime minister even if he lost a confidence vote"

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/07/dominic-cummings-takes-swipe-at-greive-over-confidence-vote-plan

[kukushkin88]

Johnson decides to turn Britain into a de facto dictatorship and the forum brexiters giggle.

The choice of remain wordage has been my only source of joy throughout Brexit

Take Boris for eg In just the last 24hrs he’s moved from bumbling hedgehog hair paedo to iron fist dictator

All very hilarious and very incredible

A leader not elected by the people or supported by the people's representatives refuses to step down, mantis still giggles.

Yea must admit the aghast clutching of pearls at the sight of perfectly legal behaviours is mildly amusing

Esp from the ignore democratic referendum and get queen involved camp

I know it’s silly to engage as though you as if you are a serious contributor on stuff like this. I’ll have another go though.

Dominic Grieve is a QC and a former Attorney General, you are disagreeing with his view as to whether or not something is legal (remember when you used to tell some of the countries better poker players how to play poker on this forum, that was funny :-).

You are someone who writes endless steams of nonsense (the Aaron of the right) about politics on a poker forum.

Whose view should people value?

Grieve claims not stepping down after a vote of no confidence would be "unconstitutional" not "illegal" so I'm not disagreeing with his view. I'm disagreeing with your incorrect interpretation of his view.

So tbf the answer to your question 'whose view should people value?' is 'not yours'.

Here's the view of Jonathan Sumption, a former supreme high court judge..."Johnson would be entitled to stay on as prime minister even if he lost a confidence vote"

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/07/dominic-cummings-takes-swipe-at-greive-over-confidence-vote-plan

Good post, always nice to have an actually sensible one. I didn’t interpret Grieve’s view, I just said you were disagreeing with him about a legal matter. As discussed previously the picture is unclear, open to interpretation (by people who are actually qualified to do so) and it will be intriguing to see how it plays out.

[MANTIS01]

Lol enjoying newsnight interview with former Sainsbury’s CEO and staunch Remainer Justin King

King: There’s going to be significant shortages on the shelves and as soon as that happens shoppers will start stocking up

Interviewer: Have you started stocking up?

King: No I haven’t

Interviewer: Would you?

King: No I don’t think I would

Interviewer: Well why wouldn’t you knowing what you know?

King: Because competition rules will be relaxed and people will act in a more collective way reducing any impact

Interviewer: So you’ve just proven the point that we can cope and there’s nothing to fear?

King: Well we won’t be able to cope if there’s shortages, people will stock up

Interviewer: But you’re not stocking up?

King: No that wouldn’t be the right thing to do

Interviewer: So you’re not believing your own fear?

King: Look there will be shortages and people will stock up

Interviewer: But not you...

LOLS love it!

[nirvana]

Lol enjoying newsnight interview with former Sainsbury’s CEO and staunch Remainer Justin King

King: There’s going to be significant shortages on the shelves and as soon as that happens shoppers will start stocking up

Interviewer: Have you started stocking up?

King: No I haven’t

Interviewer: Would you?

King: No I don’t think I would

Interviewer: Well why wouldn’t you knowing what you know?

King: Because competition rules will be relaxed and people will act in a more collective way reducing any impact

Interviewer: So you’ve just proven the point that we can cope and there’s nothing to fear?

King: Well we won’t be able to cope if there’s shortages, people will stock up

Interviewer: But you’re not stocking up?

King: No that wouldn’t be the right thing to do

Interviewer: So you’re not believing your own fear?

King: Look there will be shortages and people will stock up

Interviewer: But not you...

LOLS love it!

He was on R4 this morning as well, must be the official remain food shortage spokesman. Towards the end of the interview he went off script from being a subject matter expert to just being another remainer wah wah wahing

[TightEnd]

A very good explainer on the backstop

"PM Johnson has made the removal of the backstop the make-or-break matter when it comes to an exit deal with the EU.

So this thing is pretty damn important.
 
Time for a quick recap of what the 'loathed and detested' backstop actually is?"

https://twitter.com/hayward_katy/status/1156835486142533632?s=20

[TightEnd]

"There’s about 10 days of food in total. The kind of disruption the government is talking about today… will lead to gaps on the shelves within a week.”

Here is King actually speaking

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1159225624344403968?s=20