The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[aaron1867]

You’ve got to wonder how opposition parties will feel if this deal gets through, having rejected the chance of an election

I wonder if there’s a possibility of a no confidence motion in the next week

[Sheriff Fatman]

This looks to be the key amendment proposed tomorrow.

If, like me, your first instinct is to think 'WTF', then it effectively defers a decision on the deal and makes the Benn Act request for an extension request effective from Monday.

The fact that David Allen Green (a brilliant follow on Twitter for all things legal) likes it suggests it would have teeth, if passed.

https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1185095459213324289?s=20

[StuartHopkin]

This looks to be the key amendment proposed tomorrow.

If, like me, your first instinct is to think 'WTF', then it effectively defers a decision on the deal and makes the Benn Act request for an extension request effective from Monday.

The fact that David Allen Green (a brilliant follow on Twitter for all things legal) likes it suggests it would have teeth, if passed.

https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1185095459213324289?s=20

Well lets hope it doesn't pass then! No more delays!

[StuartHopkin]

We need some certainty! I cant even order my car!

Hi Stuart

Just had this from the dealer

Hi Natalie,

There could be an issue with pricing, LR announced that they can’t price protect anything that isn’t delivery this year.

We will know once this mess with brexit is sorted or not sorted out.

Kind Regards

Alex
Account Manager


Hopefully nothing will change.  Do you still want to proceed?

[aaron1867]

Twitter saying that The number of Tory rebels willing to vote for the deal isn’t as high as first thought

Everyone been saying 17, actual number close to 13-14 ish

[Archer]

BREAKING: John Baron reveals the NO DEAL promise from Michael Gove & Dominic Raab that is making #Brexit extremists vote for this fake deal.

They have no intention of signing up to a free trade deal before 2020. They want the UK to crash out out with No Deal.

https://twitter.com/peoplesvote_uk/status/1185160014421299200

[typhoon13]

Letwin amendment just puts another sixpence in the merry go round

[Archer]

The absence of a UK-wide backstop means that the end of the transition period will create a new ‘no deal’ cliff edge for the UK/EU relationship – as there would no longer be a guarantee that the backstop provisions on trade in goods would apply in the event of any failure to agree a new broad trade relationship.  ‘Level playing field’ rules will not kick in either in this scenario. It’s therefore possible that the whole drama of a potential no deal outcome will simply be replayed at some point in the near future (except as regards Northern Ireland – unless the Assembly there wants to terminate the key provisions of the relevant Protocol, probably at a separate date).

The greater divergence from the UK and the EU provided for in this revised agreement also therefore has a cost of a potentially larger drop in reciprocal market access at the end of the transition period, which would be accompanied by a greater possibility for the UK to deregulate as regards tax, labour and environmental standards.

Those MPs who opposed the previous withdrawal agreement formed part of different groups, who opposed that agreement for various conflicting reasons: to obtain a ‘harder’ Brexit (fewer ties to the EU, more capacity to deregulate); a ‘softer’ Brexit (stronger ties to the EU, less capacity to deregulate); and to increase the chances of preventing Brexit completely. These three aims were necessarily in conflict: only one of the three groups could achieve its intended objective, and the other two groups would have gambled and lost, putting themselves further away than before from their ideal outcome.  As things stand, if the revised withdrawal agreement is approved, it’s the hard Brexiters who won their gamble, and the soft Brexiters and Remainers who made a serious tactical mistake.   

From: http://eulawanalysis.blogspot.com/2019/10/analysis-1-of-revised-brexit-withdrawal.html

[aaron1867]

Letwin amendment just puts another sixpence in the merry go round

It’s happening though. So no vote tomorrow.

[tikay]

Mr Raab at his very best.


https://twitter.com/MarieAnnUK/status/1185143922089189376

[TightEnd]

turn on the news channels and there’s a lot of ‘Does the PM have the numbers?’ & not a lot of scrutiny of the deal as far as I can see,

It's just no deal delayed, isn't it? Unless you are in NI, to where I suppose you would expect a lot of businesses to relocate to get unfettered access to the single market lol

[Archer]

Mr Raab at his very best.


https://twitter.com/MarieAnnUK/status/1185143922089189376

Enjoyed that. Excellent.

[Archer]

Sound reasoning on the importance of Letwin:

https://twitter.com/Sime0nStylites/status/1185233043491115015

[StuartHopkin]

Never ever ceases to amaze

Did he really ask for financial assistance to cover childcare for tomorrow

They are on a different planet

[StuartHopkin]

Almost 1.3 would suggest some people expect it to get through tomorrow?