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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #22590 on: December 12, 2019, 10:09:36 PM »

Exit poll 6

** CON highest since 1987
** Lab lowest since 1935
** Suggests Jo Swinson's seat of East Dunbartonshire is 50/50
** Suggests Independent Claire Wright could win Devon East
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« Reply #22591 on: December 12, 2019, 10:10:25 PM »

Exit poll 7

Labour seats the exit poll suggests are under threat from the

Conservatives:
Workington (earliest declaration)
Bolsover
Rother Valley
Ashfield
Bassetlaw
Great Grimsby
Wrexham
Bishop Auckland
Don Valley
Stoke on Trent North
Ashfield
Leigh
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« Reply #22592 on: December 12, 2019, 10:11:35 PM »

191 seats for Labour.  I'm genuinely astonished at that.
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« Reply #22593 on: December 12, 2019, 10:17:00 PM »

Where's Aaron!
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« Reply #22594 on: December 12, 2019, 10:18:20 PM »

 
Ashworth was correct!
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« Reply #22595 on: December 12, 2019, 10:18:40 PM »

I'll be extremely surprised if the Tories don't get at least 350 seats.

As with the referendum,  just painting a very negative and disastrous future under the Tories and in the event Brexit happens is not enough. The 'remain' parties best offer is to deprive the Tories of a majority, leading to another hung parliament and minority Tory Government. That's not enough either.

This election should have been the biggest open goal in history. Social care, and fair benefits is a massive issue and I'm sure Labour should have banged that drum non stop day in day out ahead of the NHS and demonstrable lies (NHS for Sale, drugs will be 500m a week more) , way ahead of WASPI women, ahead of ad hominem attacks on Johnson's character, ahead of attacks on billionaires. When you attack 'billionaires' , just 150 people in the UK, it's a dog whistle to attack everyone who has achieved and earned quite well. People way outside the top 5% - say earning 50k a year and owning a house will feel just as attacked by this as the billionaire.

A much more honest proposition and winning one in  my view would be to propose the reforms necessary to Universal credit (just give people the money in advance ffs), disability benefits, social care and explain it's about a different vision of what the country should be and we will all (say everyone earning over 40k) will need to pay more tax.  Make it a collective proposition and try to bring people with you.

These things matter much more than re-nationalisation, than banging on about workers rights, gender pay gaps, zero hours contracts, Islamophobia - oh, and stop being anti semitic

Incred - I wavered later but was right all along
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« Reply #22596 on: December 12, 2019, 10:22:05 PM »

The exit poll comes with a projection for every seat and what is striking is that it looks like the Tories have had a dire night in London as well as Scotland but still won a stonking majority. This means the Tories must have swung a wrecking ball through that Red Wall.
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« Reply #22597 on: December 12, 2019, 10:22:57 PM »

The exit poll comes with a projection for every seat and what is striking is that it looks like the Tories have had a dire night in London as well as Scotland but still won a stonking majority. This means the Tories must have swung a wrecking ball through that Red Wall.

Labour heartlands might have changed forever tonight.  Scotland had zero impact on the result which hardly anyone would have predicted.
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« Reply #22598 on: December 12, 2019, 10:23:15 PM »

Where's Aaron!

What’s the exit poll got to do with me?

Btw, I thought the Exit poll was bigger than 23k?
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« Reply #22599 on: December 12, 2019, 10:32:49 PM »

Labour leader last 10 general election results

Blair                    W 3   L 0
Everyone else     W 0   L 7
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« Reply #22600 on: December 12, 2019, 10:33:07 PM »

Where's Aaron!

What’s the exit poll got to do with me?

Btw, I thought the Exit poll was bigger than 23k?

Topping up the position lolrron at 250/1 and 500/1 respectively?  It's only a poll.   Life changing prices to be backed for you now
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« Reply #22601 on: December 12, 2019, 10:35:59 PM »

Looks like it’s time to try and get a good deal on my broadband
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« Reply #22602 on: December 12, 2019, 10:36:28 PM »

The exit poll comes with a projection for every seat and what is striking is that it looks like the Tories have had a dire night in London as well as Scotland but still won a stonking majority. This means the Tories must have swung a wrecking ball through that Red Wall.

They’ve done (apparently) really bad in postal vote and in the north.
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« Reply #22603 on: December 12, 2019, 10:47:17 PM »

lolrron!

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« Reply #22604 on: December 12, 2019, 10:49:51 PM »

First time ever an incumbent government has increased its vote share 3 elections running

Corbyn has moved further from the centre each time.

The Tories tried to bring back fox hunting last time.

Socialism is hopefully done
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