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« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2017, 12:28:40 PM »

See, I really want to get involved in this now, rustle some feathers and take people to task, but I'm just going to keep my thoughts to myself and move on.

Good eh?
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« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2017, 12:53:22 PM »

I have no idea either....
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« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2017, 12:55:30 PM »

I have no idea either....
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« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2017, 01:09:36 PM »

Yet the same LA types love Roman Polanski, a man who raped a 13 year old girl and fled the US to France when he found out he would be put back in jail. Has won numerous accolades since.

How many of these ladies have actually suffered? but more interestingly how many of them have spoken to the Police and how many have spoken to the press?

Disagree with what he has done but i m sure for everyone that comes out against him behind closed doors 5 will be happy with their decision to sleep with him.
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« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2017, 01:10:33 PM »

A famous poker player was definitely guilty of similar behaviour on numerous occasions.

It is to my eternal shame that I never said or a word or tried to stop him on the 2 or 3 occasions I saw him do it.

No one said a word, or complained about his behaviour as far as I know.


And he was a fraction as famous/powerful as Harvey Weinstein.

Completely understand why no one spoke up to out Weinstein.




Is it too late to stand up and be counted?

If you now feel so strongly to mention it, surely you should name and shame?

Hardly takes a rocket scientist to work out who I'm talking about.

I just asked my missus if she thought any poker player might have been guilty of the same sort of behaviour Weinstein displayed.

She immediately named the same person even though she didn't witness the two serious events I did.

Ask any player who played in the same era (roughly 1998 to 2010) I did, and a pound to penny they'll say the same individual.


So if any of those players will say, why won't you?

Would they say in private? Yes.

Would they name him on a public forum? Probably not.

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« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2017, 01:26:39 PM »

See, I really want to get involved in this now, rustle some feathers and take people to task, but I'm just going to keep my thoughts to myself and move on.

Good eh?

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« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2017, 01:32:08 PM »

Yet the same LA types love Roman Polanski, a man who raped a 13 year old girl and fled the US to France when he found out he would be put back in jail. Has won numerous accolades since.

How many of these ladies have actually suffered? but more interestingly how many of them have spoken to the Police and how many have spoken to the press?

Disagree with what he has done but i m sure for everyone that comes out against him behind closed doors 5 will be happy with their decision to sleep with him.

Some LA types love Roman Polanski.  Some don't.

What does it matter if some people are happy with their dealings with Weinstein, others clearly aren't.  Every complete shit in the World will have been nice to somebody at least once. 

Some women are attracted to wealthy men, most women would be pretty appalled if an ageing fat male boss made sexual advances towards them in his hotel room. 

And despite what it is said by people here, every single man in this thread would be pretty traumatised if a fat swetty old male boss made advances to them when they had just started a new job.  This wasn't something that you would watch on youporn, and the person making advances isn't somebody who you would like to make sexytime with. 

I get that the children of Raqqa would see it as not as traumatic as some of their experiences, but if it happened to me, I would be right up there in my worst experiences.

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« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2017, 01:46:34 PM »

Yet the same LA types love Roman Polanski, a man who raped a 13 year old girl and fled the US to France when he found out he would be put back in jail. Has won numerous accolades since.

How many of these ladies have actually suffered? but more interestingly how many of them have spoken to the Police and how many have spoken to the press?

Disagree with what he has done but i m sure for everyone that comes out against him behind closed doors 5 will be happy with their decision to sleep with him.

Some LA types love Roman Polanski.  Some don't.

What does it matter if some people are happy with their dealings with Weinstein, others clearly aren't.  Every complete shit in the World will have been nice to somebody at least once. 

Some women are attracted to wealthy men, most women would be pretty appalled if an ageing fat male boss made sexual advances towards them in his hotel room. 

And despite what it is said by people here, every single man in this thread would be pretty traumatised if a fat swetty old male boss made advances to them when they had just started a new job.  This wasn't something that you would watch on youporn, and the person making advances isn't somebody who you would like to make sexytime with. 

I get that the children of Raqqa would see it as not as traumatic as some of their experiences, but if it happened to me, I would be right up there in my worst experiences.



like I said I dont agree with it and have sympathy for those truly affected by his actions, but nowadays everyone and their dog loves to jump on the bandwagon. How many people who haven't had work in 20 yrs will blame him publicly.
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« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2017, 01:48:02 PM »

At the end of the day, what he did was a crime.

Are we not supposed to report crime, when we see it happen?

If it were a murder, would we just sit tight, and then when the police have caught the perp, suddenly pipe up and admit we knew all about it?

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« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2017, 02:52:55 PM »

At the end of the day, what he did was a crime.

Are we not supposed to report crime, when we see it happen?

If it were a murder, would we just sit tight, and then when the police have caught the perp, suddenly pipe up and admit we knew all about it?



It really isn't that simple.

As we have seen in the Harvey Weinstein cases. There are a myriad of reasosn people don't report what has happened and you are naive for thinking otherwise.

Having said that, after witnessing what I saw I locked the image away. It really was repulsive. And I haven't thought about it for nearly 20 years until I saw a tweet from a woman saying something like "we owe to women everywhere to report men from any industry who have behaved in this manner" and the incident came flooding back.

I have a lot of guilt now that I never reported what I saw, realistically there was no way I could have stopped it at the time. But everyone at the table saw it. We are all culpable.
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« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2017, 02:57:46 PM »

You can become president bragging about being a sexual assaulter.


What's surely more important is how many people this 'should' come out about not just this one twat i've never heard of.
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« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2017, 02:59:24 PM »

At the end of the day, what he did was a crime.

Are we not supposed to report crime, when we see it happen?

If it were a murder, would we just sit tight, and then when the police have caught the perp, suddenly pipe up and admit we knew all about it?



Obv depends on the situation. In the vast amount of cases we report it. But if we witness a well known mobster/gang member kill someone not a chance I'd report it. The consequences waaaaaay out way the benefits. It's very hard for an individual to come forward alone and take on these kind of people when they know they're putting their lives/families lives at risk, like the women probably feel with their careers or worse.
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« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2017, 03:10:49 PM »

At the end of the day, what he did was a crime.

Are we not supposed to report crime, when we see it happen?

If it were a murder, would we just sit tight, and then when the police have caught the perp, suddenly pipe up and admit we knew all about it?

But with a murder there’s corroborating evidence - a body, weapon, forensics etc which would back up our claim.

Whereas ‘this fella starting wanking in front of me in a hotel room with just the two of us present’ is not going to go anywhere as a case - but would leave the very real probability that my work as an actress suddenly dries up.
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« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2017, 03:20:30 PM »

So is it safe to assume all the bad actresses we see on our screens today didn't have a problem with it?

Too soon?
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« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2017, 03:32:09 PM »

Yet the same LA types love Roman Polanski, a man who raped a 13 year old girl and fled the US to France when he found out he would be put back in jail. Has won numerous accolades since.

How many of these ladies have actually suffered? but more interestingly how many of them have spoken to the Police and how many have spoken to the press?

Disagree with what he has done but i m sure for everyone that comes out against him behind closed doors 5 will be happy with their decision to sleep with him.

Some LA types love Roman Polanski.  Some don't.

What does it matter if some people are happy with their dealings with Weinstein, others clearly aren't.  Every complete shit in the World will have been nice to somebody at least once. 

Some women are attracted to wealthy men, most women would be pretty appalled if an ageing fat male boss made sexual advances towards them in his hotel room. 

And despite what it is said by people here, every single man in this thread would be pretty traumatised if a fat swetty old male boss made advances to them when they had just started a new job.  This wasn't something that you would watch on youporn, and the person making advances isn't somebody who you would like to make sexytime with. 

I get that the children of Raqqa would see it as not as traumatic as some of their experiences, but if it happened to me, I would be right up there in my worst experiences.

Reckon I’d open my arse cheeks if it was going to lead to me getting a huge film role that might set my career on fire 
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