The long overdue (no staking) tennis betting and discussion thread

[bergeroo]

Queens entry list
https://www.menstennisforums.com/threads/queens-entry-list.1018852/

Halle seems to get the stronger field these days. I guess they don't have to spend all that money to get Federer to play there any more so they spread it around a bit?

EDIT - just seen Arb's link. That's a good site, cheers!

[Doobs]

Burrage Boulter final, and England cricketers playing way more aggressively than Australia.  Who was backing that a couple of years ago?

[Ironside]

Wimbledon mens odds
 
Djork is rightly odds on
Alcaraz is 2nd favourite at 5-1

Kyrgious is 25-1
Andy is 40-1
Norrie 150-1+

If i was interested in making money (and had money to lose) i think i would be backing against Murray in most matches he plays Massive difference between the players he is playing on the challenger tour now and what he can expect at Wimbledon even if he does sneak into a seeded spot. Also alot of his price would be from punters remembering his glory years.
If Kyrgious keeps his mind on the game he can beat anyone and i think the 25-1 is good value
Norrie  SF last year will have home field advantage and all his matches on a show court the energy to run all day for 5 set matches.

[bergeroo]

It is a wasteland out there in the mens draw. I'm struggling.

I am a Kyrgios fanboy but I really doubt he can get through 6 five set matches to get to the final this year (he didn't even have to do that last year!). He has barely played. I guess let's see how he is in Halle next week. Fitness has always been a problem, as well as injuries and the mental side. Far too many questions at that price.

Berrettini has a great game for grass but lost 6-1, 6-2 in his first match for two months, so can't really touch him.

Alcaraz only has five matches on grass on his entire life. He is amazing but can't back him at that price, though I think he will definitely be in the other side of the draw to Djok, right, so maybe he just gets it done with raw talent.

Then you've got Ruud, Sinner, Medvedev who could all definitely make the final if in the other half to Djok, but I don't see any of them beating him. I don't think Tsitspas' game suits grass whatsoever, I end up watching him quite a bit because my mum loves him.

How about Fritz? He has won Eastbourne twice on grass and looking back, has mostly lost to top seeds at Wimbledon. Zverev x2, Nadal last year.

Agree to probably back against Murray on a match by match basis.

Norrie at 150 is certainly interesting.

I guess the move is to just wait for the draw and pick a few each way flyers in the other side of the draw to Djok?

[bergeroo]

or just back Djok. PUKE

[Doobs]

Burrage, Boulter is interesting.

I had Burrage close to her after watching the last few matches.  She has improved enormously over the last couple of years.

Have laid Boulter at 1.54 and think it is a great bet.

Quite sad in Nottingham today, walked past the Dart/Watson match and less than 20 there.  It is on court 1, but they have only sold centre and Match was rescheduled. 

[bergeroo]

Burrage, Boulter is interesting.

I had Burrage close to her after watching the last few matches.  She has improved enormously over the last couple of years.

Have laid Boulter at 1.54 and think it is a great bet.

Quite sad in Nottingham today, walked past the Dart/Watson match and less than 20 there.  It is on court 1, but they have only sold centre and Match was rescheduled. 

How is it at Nottingham, are the mens matches getting bigger crowds and hype even though on paper the Challenger is a step below the women's 250?

I have had a little bet on Burrage for a sweat on your recommendation! Have not followed the tournament this week there on the ladies side.

[Doobs]

Burrage, Boulter is interesting.

I had Burrage close to her after watching the last few matches.  She has improved enormously over the last couple of years.

Have laid Boulter at 1.54 and think it is a great bet.

Quite sad in Nottingham today, walked past the Dart/Watson match and less than 20 there.  It is on court 1, but they have only sold centre and Match was rescheduled. 

How is it at Nottingham, are the mens matches getting bigger crowds and hype even though on paper the Challenger is a step below the women's 250?

I have had a little bet on Burrage for a sweat on your recommendation! Have not followed the tournament this week there on the ladies side.

Am only here today.  I think Men's challer is > women's double final, and we have really good seats right behind Andy Murray, hence not moving. 

I came last year and would say WTA final was better supported than the men's final despite Dan Evans in the latter.  We are in the gap between matches so less than half full now, but natural time to eat.  We sneaked out between sets as I have grumpy kids with me.

[bergeroo]

Ok I am on Struff at 250s each way for Wimbledon at bf and pp. Small interest. I honesltly think he has a really good game for grass, he serves quite well and he has improved a lot. They have tennis on in the casino in Berlin when a German plays so I watched him several times this season.

He never got it together on grass before but he did lose to some top people at wimbledon in recent years and never got a clean draw. He has an ATP final today on the green stuff. This seems like a good bet to me with lots of upside, and he should be seeded too I believe - so he is my guy!  Fingers crossed for the draw.

[bergeroo]

Enjoy!

Burrage, Boulter is interesting.

I had Burrage close to her after watching the last few matches.  She has improved enormously over the last couple of years.

Have laid Boulter at 1.54 and think it is a great bet.

Quite sad in Nottingham today, walked past the Dart/Watson match and less than 20 there.  It is on court 1, but they have only sold centre and Match was rescheduled. 

How is it at Nottingham, are the mens matches getting bigger crowds and hype even though on paper the Challenger is a step below the women's 250?

I have had a little bet on Burrage for a sweat on your recommendation! Have not followed the tournament this week there on the ladies side.

Am only here today.  I think Men's challer is > women's double final, and we have really good seats right behind Andy Murray, hence not moving. 

I came last year and would say WTA final was better supported than the men's final despite Dan Evans in the latter.  We are in the gap between matches so less than half full now, but natural time to eat.  We sneaked out between sets as I have grumpy kids with me.

[Ironside]

Andy's drawn de Minaur in first round at Queens think he needs to make semis to get seeded for wimbledon

[Doobs]

Boulter is way ahead here unfortunately. 

[Doobs]

Thought Katie Boulter was more impressive than Murray.  Still 500/1 with Paddy Power and Betfair Sportsbook.  Does nobody there even work on a Sunday?  Only 2 weeks until Wimbledon, so 2 weeks for the rest to get their eye in.

Think Cazaux is one for the notebooks.  Was a bit overawed at the start, but have Murray a tough test for someone so inexperienced.

[Ironside]

wild cards for wimble don main draw

men

Goffin
broady
choinski
peniston
fery
loffhagen

ladies
burrage
boulter
dart
swan
watson
svitolina
williams

[Doobs]

Thought Katie Boulter was more impressive than Murray.  Still 500/1 with Paddy Power and Betfair Sportsbook.  Does nobody there even work on a Sunday?  Only 2 weeks until Wimbledon, so 2 weeks for the rest to get their eye in.

Think Cazaux is one for the notebooks.  Was a bit overawed at the start, but have Murray a tough test for someone so inexperienced.

He has run good on opponents injuries (when winning) but had reached the semi final in Ilkley.

I have seen it suggested that he should get a wildcard for Wimbledon, so not exactly flying under the radar.

500/1 Boulter and 150/1 Norrie both gone.  Nobody seems to want to play well on the grass amongst the women.  Seeds are getting skittled at Berlin and Edgbaston too.  What chances Dart makes the final?