My last post on this subject and probably on blonde.

The main issue for me is you all want to be seen to be saying the correct thing the things you think are to be true and what is politically correct.

I've said several times before I thing we should help the refugees ....but not before the thousands of homeless we already have.

I have been literally talked to like a piece of shit for expressing my views by mulhuzz without anyone stepping up to say something apart  from woodsy,
 this I think is disgusting he was bang out of order.

I posted the picture not to get a reaction or to be patronized or be educated ....but to which I didn't get the chance was to ask the views on what people thought of it and why it was correct or not.

You don't need to educate me or patronize me Tighty

These are my opinions to which I am entitled to.

After your recent post towards me mulhuzz I won't ebb read what you have to say.

How many countries are they traviling thru which are safe ?

starting weight 18 stone 1 lb




week 1  17 stone 7 lb
week 2 17stone 3lb
week 3 16 stone 13 lb

loss this week 4lb

again ive worked hard, keeping my food intake the same and regular times for my meals is a big thing for me.
went circuit training on Wednesday finding that extremely hard but feeling better in my self for doing it.


something else that's helped is my mate Alan is also trying to lose weight and has lost about the same as me.
were working away together later this month so hopefully will find a swimming pool or a badminton court !

Awesome again Lee. dropping 4lbs in 3rd week is a helluva effort

Thanks mate

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starting weight 18 stone 1 lb




week 1  17 stone 7 lb
week 2 17stone 3lb
week 3 16 stone 13 lb

loss this week 4lb

again ive worked hard, keeping my food intake the same and regular times for my meals is a big thing for me.
went circuit training on Wednesday finding that extremely hard but feeling better in my self for doing it.


something else that's helped is my mate Alan is also trying to lose weight and has lost about the same as me.
were working away together later this month so hopefully will find a swimming pool or a badminton court !

If you are setting yourself up in a group that is distinct from do-gooders, then what does that make you?

A do-badder? A do-nothinger?

As in my previous post I do do something unlike most of you keyboard warriors

This fucking silent majority bullshit annoys the living fuck out of me.

In going to quote from a YouTube video made by two German comedians responding to people making this kind of claim. Since the video is quite long, I'm going to paraphrase:

'Dear Misters 'I'm not a racist but-', professor 'hobby provocateur' and others,

....
Previously people were punks if they wanted to be contrarian, now you're a Patriot. You think you're the silent majority, saying what everyone is thinking, you call a spade a spade and stick your finger in the wound and you won't be dictated to by anyone. Call your selfs nationalists, Patriots, the silent majority, even William Wallace himself: you are egregious morons and you are not the majority. This country and this society will not tolerate your bullshit.

But no worries, we are under no illusions that you'll change your option, but at some point you'll pack your flags away, stop marching, come to your senses and be ashamed of your actions this summer for the rest of your lives; or end up on the Jeremy Kyle show.

Refugees welcome.'

This rallying against 'lefties' and 'do gooders' (whatever the fuck that means...) does nothing but detract from the issue and make the speaker feel important.

Well fuck that. Stop fucking chirping and start solving this problem like the rest of us. This problem will not be solved without everyone putting all their resources into it. So shut up and crack the fuck on. Or get your self to Jeremy Kyle.

Wow !!!
Why would you type this when you clearly wouldn't say that shit to my face !

Whatever has been said for or against the discussion we've had I think you've very much just crossed that line !

How dare you say these things !

i am being very controlled with this post as I feel it will do nothing to the debate by retaliating

And feel I might say a little too much.

My heart goes out to these people as it does to all homeless people, people living in poverty anywhere in the World.
Hypothetical question. The Government say we will take as many refugees as is possible but they request that anyone that has a spare room/s or a second home will house these people in the short term for a mnimal or no payment would YOU be at the front of the queue with an offer ?

Yes I would ! But only after all of the people already here in this country have a bed to sleep in

If you are setting yourself up in a group that is distinct from do-gooders, then what does that make you?

A do-badder? A do-nothinger?

As in my previous post I do do something unlike most of you keyboard warriors

A post on Facebook from one of my friends


Just a little thought for do gooders. I and my mates served in Bosnia 94. We done more than enough escorting food and humanitarian aid through the country. We kept checkpoints secure so aid could reach the vulnerable. We saw the aftermath of a country wrecked and ravaged by war. Kids we saw with nothing no clothes on there backs or food to eat. I am fed up to the back teeth of do gooders and lefties. Go and do a  tour in a ravaged land. And see how the British army is the best at hearts and minds and helping the poorest of the poor!


I was also in Bosnia in 1994
i thought it said perhaps why I felt quite strongly

I am not sure I understand.  Why are you fed up of people wanting to do good?  You have previously done good yourself.  I just don't follow the reasoning.

Of course I want to do good and help these people but all the do gooders come out the wood work when something is so prominent in the news
They actually do fuck all (most of them) to help anyone apart from type on a keyboard that we should be doing something !

For what's it's worth I am working with a charity soldiers of the street ....to actually do something
These people actually do nothing but put people like me down for saying what the vast majority think but won't say .

So instead of doing good now we should go to 1990s Bosnia and do good.

Yup, makes loads of sense.

This post makes no sense whatsoever

A post on Facebook from one of my friends


Just a little thought for do gooders. I and my mates served in Bosnia 94. We done more than enough escorting food and humanitarian aid through the country. We kept checkpoints secure so aid could reach the vulnerable. We saw the aftermath of a country wrecked and ravaged by war. Kids we saw with nothing no clothes on there backs or food to eat. I am fed up to the back teeth of do gooders and lefties. Go and do a  tour in a ravaged land. And see how the British army is the best at hearts and minds and helping the poorest of the poor!


I was also in Bosnia in 1994
i thought it said perhaps why I felt quite strongly

You are being utterly ridiculous royal flush!!
A private soldier protects this country that you live in for about 18k a year
A dustmen earns 25k a year
A soldier has to go to war see his mates maimed and killed
A dustmen might get a smelly bin if he's unlucky
A soldier has to deal with the things he sees and does for the rest of his life
A dustmen goes home and has a meal with his family

Of course he should be housed at yes the front of the que

So would a nurse go in front or behind the ex-solider?  What about an ex-heart surgeon?  What if the soldier was foreign, or if the nurse was a daughter of an immigrant?

Of course, none of this matters.  Those with the greatest need should be looked after first.  Simples.

The idea that those with an urgent need are taking away aid from others who have a serious, but less urgent need, is nonsense.  The way it's often portrayed as "A v B", or "A or B", is not only dangerous and divisive, it's also a lie.

I was making a point of how silly flushy was being when he made a list of importance

Exactly my point, a list of importance is silly.

My personal view is we should first look after the people who have put their lives on the line to protect this country and the people within it
I am not saying it's one or the other !

Glad you have come around to see our viewpoint.

I've typed several replys and just deleted them I really don't think there is any point in this debate any longer

You are being utterly ridiculous royal flush!!
A private soldier protects this country that you live in for about 18k a year
A dustmen earns 25k a year
A soldier has to go to war see his mates maimed and killed
A dustmen might get a smelly bin if he's unlucky
A soldier has to deal with the things he sees and does for the rest of his life
A dustmen goes home and has a meal with his family

Of course he should be housed at yes the front of the que

So would a nurse go in front or behind the ex-solider?  What about an ex-heart surgeon?  What if the soldier was foreign, or if the nurse was a daughter of an immigrant?

Of course, none of this matters.  Those with the greatest need should be looked after first.  Simples.

The idea that those with an urgent need are taking away aid from others who have a serious, but less urgent need, is nonsense.  The way it's often portrayed as "A v B", or "A or B", is not only dangerous and divisive, it's also a lie.

I was making a point of how silly flushy was being when he made a list of importance

You are being utterly ridiculous royal flush!!
A private soldier protects this country that you live in for about 18k a year
A dustmen earns 25k a year
A soldier has to go to war see his mates maimed and killed
A dustmen might get a smelly bin if he's unlucky
A soldier has to deal with the things he sees and does for the rest of his life
A dustmen goes home and has a meal with his family

Of course he should be housed at yes the front of the que