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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2005, 12:55:30 PM »

Brian, if you get this sorted, I'll go easy on you next time we share a table.
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« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2005, 01:06:18 PM »

fold!

growl and stare at the raiser, mutter something about this being the last time he messes with your blinds and tell him you hate laying down a big hand like this. - then muck... and continue to muck with similar holdings until you find a proper hand with which to go to war.


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« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2005, 01:55:35 PM »

I like the move and indeed you were ahead. Calling is absolutely out of the question in my opinion you are clearly pot commited, a reraise does look to be a stronger move but the opponent must realise you will commit to any flop. So in short any move you make here commits you for all your chips. With 22 this not a situation I would want to be in . So I think a fold here and pray for a better opportunity , you still have enough to make people pass and nick some blinds and you are coming into blind stealing territory position wise.
Still max kudos for the move, the move of a aggressive champion thumbs up . I have no idea where he found a call from with A 10 .

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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2005, 02:05:33 PM »

fold!

growl and stare at the raiser, mutter something about this being the last time he messes with your blinds and tell him you hate laying down a big hand like this. - then muck... and continue to muck with similar holdings until you find a proper hand with which to go to war.


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« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2005, 02:07:34 PM »

I like the move and indeed you were ahead. Calling is absolutely out of the question in my opinion you are clearly pot commited, a reraise does look to be a stronger move but the opponent must realise you will commit to any flop. So in short any move you make here commits you for all your chips. With 22 this not a situation I would want to be in . So I think a fold here and pray for a better opportunity , you still have enough to make people pass and nick some blinds and you are coming into blind stealing territory position wise.
Still max kudos for the move, the move of a aggressive champion thumbs up . I have no idea where he found a call from with A 10 .

just my thoughts

that may have been the problem I saw, I was getting middle of the pack and I didnt know If i would get this chance again, thanks for the insight
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« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2005, 02:10:34 PM »

To me this is the heart of blonde, I dont care if I ever sound or look stupid to anyone ( just ask Junior) but the point is experience and knowledge is the source of power Cool

Please, I want to see more posts, I want everyone to post something, there is no wrong answer
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« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2005, 02:31:16 PM »

i think i would of folded this hand, or called and if i didnt hit on the flop, fold..simple,,
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« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2005, 02:58:17 PM »

Easy fold.
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« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2005, 03:07:47 PM »

i fold or go all in, i dont think a reraise would put him off and then you are committed anyway
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« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2005, 03:58:13 PM »

a re-raise might put a junk button raise off

and most people wouldn't have called the all in with A 10 anyway, and wouldn't call the re-raise there with A10...it looks stronger than the all-in.
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« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2005, 04:05:28 PM »

Call is not an option.

Folding is an option but i don't like it.

Raise, this is my preferd option, the question is how much.

Against a respnable player i move in, so make it a 15k bet into a 8k pot and let him decide if he wants to continue, this is still a big enough bet to get him to lay down (another reason for doing this, i don't want to wait a round and be in the situation when i have 17k and someone has raised 6k and now i can't get them to pass)

Against a good opponent i make it 10k more, give him 2-1 on the call to see a flop, he will then realise you are dying for action and have to pass a good hand.

How you were called by AT here is beyond me, i think it is a horrible call, risking your life on AT to a re-raise is pure madness. He was probably praying you just had a small pair. If you turn over AJ AQ AK he is in a world of pain and lets face it those are the 3 aces you are re-raising with in this spot.


You were unlucky you ran into a bad call and then lost the 50-50, that is poker as they say.

If he had laid down AT then you would have been on 25k and have a chance to steal a little without cripling yourself, a well timed move, just a pity the raiser never got sent the script.
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« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2005, 04:07:32 PM »

Call is not an option.

Folding is an option but i don't like it.

Raise, this is my preferd option, the question is how much.

Against a respnable player i move in, so make it a 15k bet into a 8k pot and let him decide if he wants to continue, this is still a big enough bet to get him to lay down (another reason for doing this, i don't want to wait a round and be in the situation when i have 17k and someone has raised 6k and now i can't get them to pass)

Against a good opponent i make it 10k more, give him 2-1 on the call to see a flop, he will then realise you are dying for action and have to pass a good hand.

How you were called by AT here is beyond me, i think it is a horrible call, risking your life on AT to a re-raise is pure madness. He was probably praying you just had a small pair. If you turn over AJ AQ AK he is in a world of pain and lets face it those are the 3 aces you are re-raising with in this spot.


You were unlucky you ran into a bad call and then lost the 50-50, that is poker as they say.

If he had laid down AT then you would have been on 25k and have a chance to steal a little without cripling yourself, a well timed move, just a pity the raiser never got sent the script.

Perfect answer. I took five posts to say that, and not as precisely as he did
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« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2005, 04:08:04 PM »

Never thought I'd say this, but I agree with every word of Flushy's analysis. He may make a half-decent player one of these days.
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« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2005, 04:14:06 PM »

Everyone's saying calling is not an option but i don't understand why a stop n go isn't a good move here. I hate being stopped and goed, if you can tell me some way around it I'll be very grateful.
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« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2005, 04:18:32 PM »

Everyone's saying calling is not an option but i don't understand why a stop n go isn't a good move here. I hate being stopped and goed, if you can tell me some way around it I'll be very grateful.

You are not short enough for a stop and go to be optimal.

Say for example he raised with J8s, to steal the blinds, now the flop comes J83, 873, J96 or any combination of that sort of flop, you move in and he is calling. If you raise pre flop you take the pot away from J8.
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