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« Reply #14085 on: November 23, 2011, 10:18:44 AM »

There was a hoar frost here last night, and the world (Well my little bit of it) looked achingly beautiful this morning.

I checked the temperature when I saw it forming and it was 4 degrees above freezing. I always thought it had to be below freezing for frost to form, so I hot-footed it across to wiki.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frost#Hoar_frost


A hoar frost will be coming to your area soon. promise me you will go outside and have a look at it.



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« Reply #14086 on: November 23, 2011, 10:19:11 AM »

More tosh and bollox available  on request.....

no-one gonna call bullshit on this bit?
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« Reply #14087 on: November 23, 2011, 10:21:13 AM »

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« Reply #14088 on: November 23, 2011, 10:23:31 AM »

More tosh and bollox available  on request.....

no-one gonna call bullshit on this bit?

Indisputable.
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« Reply #14089 on: November 23, 2011, 10:24:42 AM »

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« Reply #14090 on: November 23, 2011, 10:33:22 AM »

I have to drive into Birmingham today. If I allow an hour and a half, the journey takes half an hour, and vice-versa.


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« Reply #14091 on: November 23, 2011, 10:33:36 AM »

have you seen the new google doodle?

No - but I have now, superb!

Google's home page, the most valuable virtual real estate on the planet, is so beautifully uncluttered by noise and tosh. Compare it with Yahoo's home page, the noisiest and most tacky thing imaginable. Another company who are in the mire - Yahoo! Incidentally, the exclamation Mark in "Yahoo!" is, I believe, their official trading name. As in Westward Ho!

More tosh and bollox available  on request.....

I'll call bullshit on quite a lot of that before gatso does.

Even gatters might struggle to contradict that, pedantry apart.

Gotta love this comparision....

http://uk.yahoo.com/?p=us

http://www.google.co.uk/

Facebook has the most valuable (and visited) page on the web.

Yahoo! made $237 million net profit on a revenue of about $1 billion during the second quarter of the year.  Hardly sounds like a company in the 'mire'.

As an aside with regards to the exclamation mark, Volkwagen have recently brought out a new car called the up!  (notice the lower-case u and the exclamation mark).

We could argue about this all day, so I'll end with this....

http://www.alexa.com/topsites

google # 1, Facebook # 2,

Yahoo!? (The ? following the ! looks rather odd).......

Their sales are less than they were 5 years ago, despite being in a boom industry, whilst staff numbers have increased 20%. Can you imagine a worse scenario? Falling revenues (over a FIVE year period) versus rising staff numbers & costs? Try to extrapolate where that will leave them in 5 years time.

Carol Bartz, the Yahoo! CEO, was fired last month after failing to improve the company's lacklustre financial performance.
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« Reply #14092 on: November 23, 2011, 11:01:49 AM »

have you seen the new google doodle?

No - but I have now, superb!

Google's home page, the most valuable virtual real estate on the planet, is so beautifully uncluttered by noise and tosh. Compare it with Yahoo's home page, the noisiest and most tacky thing imaginable. Another company who are in the mire - Yahoo! Incidentally, the exclamation Mark in "Yahoo!" is, I believe, their official trading name. As in Westward Ho!

More tosh and bollox available  on request.....

I'll call bullshit on quite a lot of that before gatso does.

Even gatters might struggle to contradict that, pedantry apart.

Gotta love this comparision....

http://uk.yahoo.com/?p=us

http://www.google.co.uk/

Facebook has the most valuable (and visited) page on the web.

Yahoo! made $237 million net profit on a revenue of about $1 billion during the second quarter of the year.  Hardly sounds like a company in the 'mire'.

As an aside with regards to the exclamation mark, Volkwagen have recently brought out a new car called the up!  (notice the lower-case u and the exclamation mark).

We could argue about this all day, so I'll end with this....

http://www.alexa.com/topsites

google # 1, Facebook # 2,

Yahoo!? (The ? following the ! looks rather odd).......

Their sales are less than they were 5 years ago, despite being in a boom industry, whilst staff numbers have increased 20%. Can you imagine a worse scenario? Falling revenues (over a FIVE year period) versus rising staff numbers & costs? Try to extrapolate where that will leave them in 5 years time.

Carol Bartz, the Yahoo! CEO, was fired last month after failing to improve the company's lacklustre financial performance.

Alexa? You might as well just make stuff up...
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« Reply #14093 on: November 23, 2011, 12:46:59 PM »

Thank you Simon. I think I'm getting close to understanding it now.

In my own personal morning haze, I forgot to emphasise the more common uses..

If you fancy a stock that is £10/share, that's a lot of money locked up.  You can buy for a lot less by buying 20p options on them (but don't get the full reward from small gains) or buy 50x more of them (leverage mentioned earlier).  You don't even have to exercise the option to release profit, you can sell the option back to the market with no shares changing hands.

Perhaps the best use though is that your worst case scenario is the 20p outlaid.  So if the company went to the wall, everyone else groans to the tune of £10/share while you shrug your shoulders for 20p a pop.

To start to get to grips with options imo, the best way is to plot a simple graph, say of £10 shares with a 20p option.  (profit/loss on the vertical axis and price of share on the horizontal)  It quickly shows you what is going on, in a world where double negatives and inversions trip a lot of people up.
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« Reply #14094 on: November 23, 2011, 01:57:46 PM »

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This guys day was pretty bad,

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« Reply #14095 on: November 23, 2011, 04:38:32 PM »

Saw the chopper crash over on Tony's thread, but your version is much more cultured.
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« Reply #14096 on: November 23, 2011, 04:44:11 PM »

Went This Birmingham by train today, and very nice it was too. £14.75 including car parking.

Just waiting for my return train. So many people here in the city. There's some sort of huge German piss up festaval going on.
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« Reply #14097 on: November 23, 2011, 04:52:27 PM »

Went This Birmingham by train today, and very nice it was too. £14.75 including car parking.

Just waiting for my return train. So many people here in the city. There's some sort of huge German piss up festaval going on.

Xmas market?
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« Reply #14098 on: November 23, 2011, 05:10:45 PM »

Went This Birmingham by train today, and very nice it was too. £14.75 including car parking.

Just waiting for my return train. So many people here in the city. There's some sort of huge German piss up festaval going on.

Xmas market?

If the Xmas market consists of loads of people getting drunk and eating liverwurst sausage,  then yes.
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« Reply #14099 on: November 23, 2011, 07:42:55 PM »

Thank you Simon. I think I'm getting close to understanding it now.

In my own personal morning haze, I forgot to emphasise the more common uses..

If you fancy a stock that is £10/share, that's a lot of money locked up.  You can buy for a lot less by buying 20p options on them (but don't get the full reward from small gains) or buy 50x more of them (leverage mentioned earlier).  You don't even have to exercise the option to release profit, you can sell the option back to the market with no shares changing hands.

Perhaps the best use though is that your worst case scenario is the 20p outlaid.  So if the company went to the wall, everyone else groans to the tune of £10/share while you shrug your shoulders for 20p a pop.

To start to get to grips with options imo, the best way is to plot a simple graph, say of £10 shares with a 20p option.  (profit/loss on the vertical axis and price of share on the horizontal)  It quickly shows you what is going on, in a world where double negatives and inversions trip a lot of people up.

There isn't no double negatives gonna trip me up.
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