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bovie
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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January 17, 2009, 09:55:41 PM »
thats what the judge told me
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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January 17, 2009, 09:55:59 PM »
It's High Noon for Gary Cooper. He raised to 18k from the cutoff and James Sudworth min-reraised to 30k. Cooper pushed or another 60k or so Sudworth instantly called.
Sudworth:
Cooper:
A couple of the other players at the table murmur that it must be nice.
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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January 17, 2009, 09:57:23 PM »
Quote from: NoflopsHomer on January 17, 2009, 09:47:13 PM
Andreas
Hoivold
raises to 16k.
Bernard
Litman
calls.
Litman leads out for 15k.
"Have you got some of that?" asks Andreas.ave no idea," says Bernard.
Andreas calls.
Bernard bets 30k, call. The pot is getting big.
Check from Bernard, Andreas bets a very small 35k. Bernard folds. Hoivold must be over 300k now.
Andreas is a great player. I think he could have a fantastic year
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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Quote from: jambo22 on January 17, 2009, 09:45:55 PM
Quote from: AlrightJack on January 17, 2009, 09:38:53 PM
Quote from: jambo22 on January 17, 2009, 09:21:21 PM
Quote from: AlrightJack on January 17, 2009, 09:10:08 PM
The key thing here, disragarding Iwan's involvement, is should verbal declarations be binding? Under the current Grosvenor rules they are. Of course, verbal statements may be ambigous, in which case, they are not binding, e.g 'It's lilkely I will call', 'I might call', etc. 'I will call' or words to that specific effect that are unambiguous are taken as declarations of intent, and are therefore ruled to be binding under the current set of rules. Rules are not set in stone, they can be changed and the Grosvenor rules committee does listen to opinions of players when considering contentious issues like this. Rest assured it will be discussed at our next meeting and before then we will investigate the verbal declaration rules of other organisations and take on board the comments of players.
Evening Jonathan,
I agree rules are rules, , but why did the TD not enforce/apply the rules instead of another player. The point I am making that in all poker games there is banter at tables, which does not require the player to make a play based on anything said.
Hi James,
It was the TD that made the ruling, not another player. The other player only called for the ruling.
There can still be banter at the tables as there are lots of ways to banter other than making false statements of intent. In this instance, it was not banter. Approaching the bubble in a £1,000 tournament is when things are getting serious.
I understood the TD made the decision. I just thougt if he was at the table why did another player ask for the ruling. I also appreciate these things are always harder to quantifiy if your not there.
Cheers
James
The TD was not standing over the table at the time, but was alerted to it when the floor was called for.
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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Quote from: AlrightJack on January 17, 2009, 09:51:52 PM
Quote from: bovie on January 17, 2009, 09:37:02 PM
My veiw is, the three strongest t/d are
Marty
Wilson
,barry monday,and jeff from the vic,and i dont think they would have ruled this way................. are you not allowed to tell lies these days ??
You are allowed to lie about the strength of you hand, but not when it comes to you betting intentions. In some places they even have a ridiculous rule that you can only lie about the strength of your hand and will penalised if you tell the truth.
Congrats on the award too btw.
Still no rule as weird as the underraising heads up at the vic imo...lol
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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Reply #200 on:
January 17, 2009, 10:02:51 PM »
Quote from: AlrightJack on January 17, 2009, 09:58:21 PM
Quote from: jambo22 on January 17, 2009, 09:45:55 PM
Quote from: AlrightJack on January 17, 2009, 09:38:53 PM
Quote from: jambo22 on January 17, 2009, 09:21:21 PM
Quote from: AlrightJack on January 17, 2009, 09:10:08 PM
The key thing here, disragarding Iwan's involvement, is should verbal declarations be binding? Under the current Grosvenor rules they are. Of course, verbal statements may be ambigous, in which case, they are not binding, e.g 'It's lilkely I will call', 'I might call', etc. 'I will call' or words to that specific effect that are unambiguous are taken as declarations of intent, and are therefore ruled to be binding under the current set of rules. Rules are not set in stone, they can be changed and the Grosvenor rules committee does listen to opinions of players when considering contentious issues like this. Rest assured it will be discussed at our next meeting and before then we will investigate the verbal declaration rules of other organisations and take on board the comments of players.
Evening Jonathan,
I agree rules are rules, , but why did the TD not enforce/apply the rules instead of another player. The point I am making that in all poker games there is banter at tables, which does not require the player to make a play based on anything said.
Hi James,
It was the TD that made the ruling, not another player. The other player only called for the ruling.
There can still be banter at the tables as there are lots of ways to banter other than making false statements of intent. In this instance, it was not banter. Approaching the bubble in a £1,000 tournament is when things are getting serious.
I understood the TD made the decision. I just thougt if he was at the table why did another player ask for the ruling. I also appreciate these things are always harder to quantifiy if your not there.
Cheers
James
The TD was not standing over the table at the time, but was alerted to it when the floor was called for.
OK
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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Quote from: Chompy on January 17, 2009, 08:45:21 PM
I've only played with Iwan a couple of times but he's struck me as being about as straight a guy you'd ever wish to meet. That's probably what this ultimately boils down to imo
Maybe you should get to know him better before suggesting he is as straight a guy as we would like to meet. I disagree with you.
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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January 17, 2009, 10:07:06 PM »
I was about to write a post about how Matt Perrins does not seem to raise preflop but is constantly 3-betting Ramsey Ajram, Andreas Hoivold and Mo Muse with good success. Then suddenly he makes the first raise in a while and Kjetil Naess moves in and quickly gets called.
Naess:
Perrins:
Perrins is now on about 250k.
I'm waiting for Lee and Perrins to get on the same table.
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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January 17, 2009, 10:09:46 PM »
Alan Trueick is out in 14th place.
He was very short and pushed in the small blind with 7-3, but Bernard Litman woke up with A-J in the big blind.
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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January 17, 2009, 10:16:38 PM »
Can you please wish Mo "Billy" Muse good luck from sunny but cold Florida?
thanks
Jeff Buffenbarger
PS: Can you ask him who is looking after his dog tonite?
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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January 17, 2009, 10:20:14 PM »
JEFF B- hope your well
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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January 17, 2009, 10:20:18 PM »
Bad news, Mo Muse fans.
Mo Muse raises from the cutoff and Matt Perrins reraises from the button committing Muse. Muse goes for it and Perrins calls the remaining change.
Muse:
Perrins:
...(Mo grimaces at this card)...
He's out in 13th place winning £2,350.
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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January 17, 2009, 10:20:49 PM »
Quote from: Michigan Jeff on January 17, 2009, 10:16:38 PM
Can you please wish Mo "Billy" Muse good luck from sunny but cold Florida?
thanks
Jeff
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PS: Can you ask him who is looking after his dog tonite?
Trans-atlantic Bokking!!!
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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January 17, 2009, 10:21:05 PM »
Quote from: jimmydavies501 on January 17, 2009, 10:06:07 PM
Quote from: Chompy on January 17, 2009, 08:45:21 PM
I've only played with Iwan a couple of times but he's struck me as being about as straight a guy you'd ever wish to meet. That's probably what this ultimately boils down to imo
Maybe you should get to know him better before suggesting he is as straight a guy as we would like to meet. I disagree with you.
Yikes, only venturing an opinion...
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Re: BlueSq.com GUKPT Brighton: Day 2
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Reply #209 on:
January 17, 2009, 10:23:32 PM »
Stacks in trouble as we get to the 4k/8k level.
Michael Greco -- 35k
Ramsey Ajram -- 90k
Richard Lewindon -- 100k
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