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« Reply #27795 on: January 24, 2013, 12:02:58 PM »

OTTOMAN EMPIRE 2.30 MEYDAN (LIVE ON ATR AND SKY SPORTS)

13-2 general is fine

open looking race a nice eway shape with 11 runners 4 of which according to the market and all known form cant win due to the trip or being outclassed.

what have i found out that the market possibly has not? Well last time out ottoman empire raced against arthurs tale (4-1 here) and was beaten. However o empire covered 25 lengths more ground throughout the race and had a very troubled trip. The horse has not won for a while but is generally consistent on the all weather will appreciate this slight step up in trip and has more time today to the first turn to get a better track position. A Tale gets the blinkers back on it wore in america but my interpretation of the american form gives it a chance but not at 4-1/ Art Scholar the favourite i have discussed before despite the horses massive improvement and unlucky trip here last week (been picked up by comments) i still think the horse prefers some give on the turf rather than the all weather.

The main basis for the bet is that Art Scholars "unlucky" in running trip has been seen by the market but the extra ground the selection went has not. The horse is not going to improve at 7 and some others might still be better handicapped hence the small bet.

suggest £10 eway at 13-2
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« Reply #27796 on: January 24, 2013, 12:06:58 PM »

OTTOMAN EMPIRE 2.30 MEYDAN (LIVE ON ATR AND SKY SPORTS)

13-2 general is fine

open looking race a nice eway shape with 11 runners 4 of which according to the market and all known form cant win due to the trip or being outclassed.

what have i found out that the market possibly has not? Well last time out ottoman empire raced against arthurs tale (4-1 here) and was beaten. However o empire covered 25 lengths more ground throughout the race and had a very troubled trip. The horse has not won for a while but is generally consistent on the all weather will appreciate this slight step up in trip and has more time today to the first turn to get a better track position. A Tale gets the blinkers back on it wore in america but my interpretation of the american form gives it a chance but not at 4-1/ Art Scholar the favourite i have discussed before despite the horses massive improvement and unlucky trip here last week (been picked up by comments) i still think the horse prefers some give on the turf rather than the all weather.

The main basis for the bet is that Art Scholars "unlucky" in running trip has been seen by the market but the extra ground the selection went has not. The horse is not going to improve at 7 and some others might still be better handicapped hence the small bet.

suggest £10 eway at 13-2

Thanks horsey.

We have £10 EW @ 7/1, Boylesports, Ottoman Empire, 2.30 Meydan.

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Bet ref: 66/68£10.00 EW Single
Market Selection Price
Meydan 14:30
Outright Betting
EW: 1/5 1,2,3 Ottoman Empire 7/1
Total stake £20.00
Estimated return £104.00

Full stake £20.00
Full Estimated return £104.00
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« Reply #27797 on: January 24, 2013, 12:07:50 PM »


PS - seems to be 10 runners, not 11.
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« Reply #27798 on: January 24, 2013, 12:14:29 PM »

There's 9/2 knocking about for the draw tonight at villa park.

I like the BTTS, though, given both sets of defences and the mentality that both teams should be approaching the game with - Villa need to pepper the onion bag and Bradford will think an away goal kills the tie.

This is one where I think both sides should score. I've seen nothing to suggest Villa will neutralise the aerial threat Bradford pose.

17/20 available with Bet Victor; 4/5 generally.

I must admit I like the draw in both games.

The two "inferior" teams have decent leads to protect, and will be chasing every ball and locked up tighter than a tighty thing. The "superior" teams could quickly get dispirited if they dont make the early breakthrough and the games could peter out. I have had a small banzai on the draw double and singles.




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« Reply #27799 on: January 24, 2013, 12:17:54 PM »

Manchester United v Fulham in the FA Cup on Saturday teatime - I can't have it that Fulham are 11/1  in this.
9/1 DNB with United being as short as 1/25 DNB

I am aware of Fulham's pretty poor record away from home in recent years, and their record vs United but they won away at The Hawthorns last weekend and that's no easy game, plus the game in August wasn't a straightforward win for us and I wouldn't be surprised to see a less than full strength United team.

9/1 DNB looks the bet?

The price looks monster huge David, though we'd need to do a lot of these to overcome variance.

I would think the maths experts can prove if the price is right or wrong.

Let's await feedback.

You can get 10/1 DNB laying Man U on Betfair.  You may be able to get better asking for odds.  The price doesn't look a million miles from what I would expect.  Do Fulham definitely put out their full squad here?  Can we wait for team news and take advantage of slow bookmakers here?
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« Reply #27800 on: January 24, 2013, 12:21:38 PM »

Manchester United v Fulham in the FA Cup on Saturday teatime - I can't have it that Fulham are 11/1  in this.
9/1 DNB with United being as short as 1/25 DNB

I am aware of Fulham's pretty poor record away from home in recent years, and their record vs United but they won away at The Hawthorns last weekend and that's no easy game, plus the game in August wasn't a straightforward win for us and I wouldn't be surprised to see a less than full strength United team.

9/1 DNB looks the bet?

The price looks monster huge David, though we'd need to do a lot of these to overcome variance.

I would think the maths experts can prove if the price is right or wrong.

Let's await feedback.

You can get 10/1 DNB laying Man U on Betfair.  You may be able to get better asking for odds.  The price doesn't look a million miles from what I would expect.  Do Fulham definitely put out their full squad here?  Can we wait for team news and take advantage of slow bookmakers here?

That looks the best route, thanks Doobs.
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« Reply #27801 on: January 24, 2013, 12:24:38 PM »

Manchester United v Fulham in the FA Cup on Saturday teatime - I can't have it that Fulham are 11/1  in this.
9/1 DNB with United being as short as 1/25 DNB

I am aware of Fulham's pretty poor record away from home in recent years, and their record vs United but they won away at The Hawthorns last weekend and that's no easy game, plus the game in August wasn't a straightforward win for us and I wouldn't be surprised to see a less than full strength United team.

9/1 DNB looks the bet?

The price looks monster huge David, though we'd need to do a lot of these to overcome variance.

I would think the maths experts can prove if the price is right or wrong.

Let's await feedback.

You can get 10/1 DNB laying Man U on Betfair.  You may be able to get better asking for odds.  The price doesn't look a million miles from what I would expect.  Do Fulham definitely put out their full squad here?  Can we wait for team news and take advantage of slow bookmakers here?

That looks the best route, thanks Doobs.

Fair enough
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« Reply #27802 on: January 24, 2013, 12:29:10 PM »

My balance on Betfair just shot up for no reason that I can trace via statement etc. I laid back a portion of SF the other day, but the numbers seem the same on the screen. Could it be they have settled the greeny out bit?
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« Reply #27803 on: January 24, 2013, 12:30:43 PM »

My balance on Betfair just shot up for no reason that I can trace via statement etc. I laid back a portion of SF the other day, but the numbers seem the same on the screen. Could it be they have settled the greeny out bit?

They always do.
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« Reply #27804 on: January 24, 2013, 12:34:23 PM »

My balance on Betfair just shot up for no reason that I can trace via statement etc. I laid back a portion of SF the other day, but the numbers seem the same on the screen. Could it be they have settled the greeny out bit?

They add your original stake back to your balance but any profit will be calculated post-event.
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« Reply #27805 on: January 24, 2013, 12:44:49 PM »

Cheers guys. thought it was, but got stuff flying all over on there atm.
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« Reply #27806 on: January 24, 2013, 01:35:56 PM »

Memphis Grizzlies -3.5 vs LA Lakers with Pinny chargeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Starts in 15 mins

No idea how this got on, but it was Posted wayyyy too late for me Tom, I was zzzzing.

Yeah, i was waiting all day for it to move to -3.5 from 4 but was still gona bet very big on it at -4 so prob should of posted. Lazy and lack of explanation and thoughts because it was 15mins till gametime too. Sorry.

Grizzlies won by 13.
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« Reply #27807 on: January 24, 2013, 02:10:11 PM »

I have been putting this bet up for quite a while now & I will post it again as price is once again good.

Charlton v Wednesday

Wednesday struggling for strikers & generally in the market for one at the moment & are playing with Antonio up front at the moment. Even when not playing up front he is always having a chance when on the wing and will of course get even more chances when up front, our best player in my view.

As mentioned he is very likely to play up front and is priced up at a HUGE 11/1 for first goalscorer at Charlton, 11/1 on first goalscorer for a striker for one of the form teams? Obviously some places in the market have not done their homework.

Price is massive & is definitely a chance of this happening.

Recc (again) @ £5-£10.

Thanks Aaron.

I need some help with analysing the value there.

Looked up prices again & some firms smallening prices now. prices as low as 13/2 now with Betfred but 11's still there.
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« Reply #27808 on: January 24, 2013, 02:41:28 PM »

Can someone post the horse result, can't find any audio for it, cheers
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« Reply #27809 on: January 24, 2013, 02:43:41 PM »

OTTOMAN EMPIRE 2.30 MEYDAN (LIVE ON ATR AND SKY SPORTS)

13-2 general is fine

open looking race a nice eway shape with 11 runners 4 of which according to the market and all known form cant win due to the trip or being outclassed.

what have i found out that the market possibly has not? Well last time out ottoman empire raced against arthurs tale (4-1 here) and was beaten. However o empire covered 25 lengths more ground throughout the race and had a very troubled trip. The horse has not won for a while but is generally consistent on the all weather will appreciate this slight step up in trip and has more time today to the first turn to get a better track position. A Tale gets the blinkers back on it wore in america but my interpretation of the american form gives it a chance but not at 4-1/ Art Scholar the favourite i have discussed before despite the horses massive improvement and unlucky trip here last week (been picked up by comments) i still think the horse prefers some give on the turf rather than the all weather.

The main basis for the bet is that Art Scholars "unlucky" in running trip has been seen by the market but the extra ground the selection went has not. The horse is not going to improve at 7 and some others might still be better handicapped hence the small bet.

suggest £10 eway at 13-2


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