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« Reply #9225 on: June 19, 2012, 02:15:53 PM »

Yeah Denesh talk nah.
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« Reply #9226 on: June 19, 2012, 02:16:04 PM »

Rooney anytime & England win at 4/1 seems good to me Tighty.

I've argued elsewhere that Rooney at 11/8 to score anytime is decent given the situation - playing with Welbeck/Raring to go/in good form over the season and that if he scores then an England win is much more likely.

Welbeck and Rooney playing together for MUFC this past season - 22 games together and scored 33 goals between them with Rooney getting, I think, 21 of them.


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« Reply #9227 on: June 19, 2012, 02:20:03 PM »

shay given has finally been exposed at this tournament as a good shot stopper who has no command of his box whatsoever and appears to be more and more stuck to his goaline as time advances.

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« Reply #9228 on: June 19, 2012, 02:27:38 PM »

Rooney anytime & England win at 4/1 seems good to me Tighty.

I've argued elsewhere that Rooney at 11/8 to score anytime is decent given the situation - playing with Welbeck/Raring to go/in good form over the season and that if he scores then an England win is much more likely.

Welbeck and Rooney playing together for MUFC this past season - 22 games together and scored 33 goals between them with Rooney getting, I think, 21 of them.




We're playing a Home team who needs to win. Yes we should be better, yes Rooney etc

However if you gave Hodgson the draw now he'd take it

That's my caution.
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« Reply #9229 on: June 19, 2012, 02:29:26 PM »

WI 238 in the second ODI

Should have been 280 with more intelligent/urgent running.

Bet's a gonner, I reckon.
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« Reply #9230 on: June 19, 2012, 02:29:53 PM »

you could argue this race had a nice eway shape earlier in the week but not now

5-1 bar when they are 16-1+ on betfair lol
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« Reply #9231 on: June 19, 2012, 02:30:21 PM »

West Indies scored 238/9 in the 2nd ODI.
It looks to be a little under par.
We shall see.


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« Reply #9232 on: June 19, 2012, 02:32:02 PM »

Rooney would have to score 36% of Englands goals to be value at 11/8 to score first.  Almost no player scores that many of a teams goals.  Van Persie managed it this year as did Ronaldo and Messi of course but that gives you an idea of just how dominant a goalscorer you need to be to be value at that kind of price in a game like this.  I am pretty certain Rooney isn't.  As a general rule i would say if you have backed England more than once in the past ten years you are backing them too much.  As for todays game i think the Ukraine are almost certainly value.  They have to win, they are at home and you have a betting market which is in love with England because it is dominated by the Asian market and the Asians see the EPL every week and most of the Ukrainians never.  As an odds compiler I knew with certainty I would get money on England so i would price them accordingly ie I would think what is the correct price and then i would take off as much as I thought I could possibly get away with.
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« Reply #9233 on: June 19, 2012, 02:36:26 PM »

what a horse

just what a horse
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« Reply #9234 on: June 19, 2012, 02:37:23 PM »

what a horse

just what a horse
8 lengths wow
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« Reply #9235 on: June 19, 2012, 02:38:18 PM »

8 ? try 11 Smiley
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« Reply #9236 on: June 19, 2012, 02:38:42 PM »

Yeah pretty special.  Ta for the 2nd placer, didn't win the world but it all helps.
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« Reply #9237 on: June 19, 2012, 02:39:05 PM »

The Frankel race was given on the thread as a dirty e/w coup a few pages ago.

Excelebration the second favourite, back it e/w, get the account closed sort of thing

5-1 second dirty e/w landed.

Fraser suggested it, I think?
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« Reply #9238 on: June 19, 2012, 02:40:04 PM »

8 ? try 11 Smiley
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« Reply #9239 on: June 19, 2012, 02:40:10 PM »

I'd have thought Rooney is nailed on to be subbed at some point if we're winning with 10/20 mins to go.

Rooney/England is 11/2 on Betfair fwiw

One concurs with enthusiasm & gusto.

Ladbrokes are 7/1 Rooney gets subbed.

It's a pretty good bet IMO. Better than 11/2 Rooney/England.

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