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[TightEnd]

Suarez looks a great spot

He has 121 goals in 244 career games, 23 in 55 for Liverpool and 81 in 110 games in 4 seasons for Ajax

He's got 8 already in a goal shy team  and you have to assume he'll get help up front in January


12 in 27 from here? 9/2? Interesting.

[tikay]

Suarez looks a great spot

He has 121 goals in 244 career games, 23 in 55 for Liverpool and 81 in 110 games in 4 seasons for Ajax

He's got 8 already in a goal shy team  and you have to assume he'll get help up front in January


12 in 27 from here? 9/2? Interesting.

Very, but I can't even find the market. I can find "Top Goalscorer", but not "To score 20".

[Eso Kral]

Hi Tikay

I am going to suggest a bet of £30 on WALSALL to be relegated from League 1 @ 7/1 with VC which hopefully will give a similar sweat to Camel's Barnet bet last year but with a better end result.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/league-1/relegation

The reason I am recommending the bet is that after a better than anticipated start Walsall are now on a horrific run of 10 league games without a win since the end of September and are perennial relegation contenders and a club with no money who for the past 2 seasons have survived by the skin of their teeth, and at the start of the season they were priced in this market at 6/4 although due to the prospect of Portsmouth being liquidated only VC/Hills and BF had markets with now only BF and VC available.

It is safe to assume that Portsmouth will fill one of the 4 places as once they come out of Administration they will receive a further penalty of -10pts and seem to be a club in disarray furthered by Appletons departure to Blackpool, the other contenders IMHO are Hartlepool (who may appoint Phil Brown as manager this week), Bury, Scunthorpe (recently appointed Brian Laws and showing a bit of form), Coventry and Oldham and again IMO Walsall should definately not be a 7/1 to fill one of 3or4 places against these teams having over achieved in the first third of the season.

Walsall's next few games are
Crawley away
Tranmere away
Hartlepool home
Coventry away
Yeovil home
Colchester home
Mk Dons away
Leyton Orient away and personally I can see only a return of 6/7 points maximum from these fixtures which takes them to January's fixtures which look equally as tough and would expect the price to contract further during this time offering an end of season green out or let it ride option  if they are completely sucked into the battle of which they are currently only 3 points outside.

Flame away...

[Chompy]

If you're happy to put £2 on Ella to be kicked off X Factor at a hundo, please have the same bet on Stevenage to be relegated at the same price.

I've been baffled beyond belief at their good start but fancy the wheels are about to come off big-style. They got smacked at the weekend and there's something not pleasing going on behind the scenes with Robin Shroooot.

[tikay]

If you're happy to put £2 on Ella to be kicked off X Factor at a hundo, please have the same bet on Stevenage to be relegated at the same price.

I've been baffled beyond belief at their good start but fancy the wheels are about to come off big-style. They got smacked at the weekend and there's something not pleasing going on behind the scenes with Robin Shroooot.

Nice avatar Chomps.

Heroine of yours, Mrs Shulman? Or busted your arse in a Tourney?

[TightEnd]

India v England: Monty Panesar must play - Rahul Dravid
By Sam Sheringham BBC Sport
FIRST TEST, INDIA v ENGLAND

    Venue: Sardar Patel Stadium, Ahmedabad
    Date: 15-19 November 2012
    Start: 04:00 GMT

Coverage: Live commentary on BBC 5 live sports extra & Radio 4 long wave, scorecards, reports and live text commentary on the BBC website

India great Rahul Dravid says England should pick spinner Monty Panesar ahead of Samit Patel to boost their chances of winning the four-match Test series.

England look set to field part-time spinner Patel at number six to balance the side and support Graeme Swann.

But Dravid told BBC Sport: "Bits and pieces cricketers haven't had much of an impact in India.

"Monty has bowled well in India in the past and can keep one end tight so I would like him to play."

Left-arm spinner Panesar has taken 142 wickets from 42 Tests, including 11 in India, and has a first-class bowling average of 30.32.

Slow left-armer Patel averages 38.71 with the ball in first-class cricket and has three wickets from two Tests but can bat at number six to give England the option of fielding an extra bowler.

He has featured in all three of England's warm-up matches on tour, scoring one century and two fifties.

Dravid, who scored 13,288 runs in 164 Tests for India, added: "Personally I would definitely play the two frontline spinners.

"Indians are extremely good players of spin and they are not going to get out to part-time bowlers."

Dravid is predicting a 3-1 victory to India, who suffered a 4-0 whitewash in England last year.



3-1 = 14-1 for those so inclined

[TheChipPrince]

Suarez bet is on Prem league zone>Liverpool team page>Suarez total goals.

I think its way too big, I wouldn't make it any bigger than a 2/1 shot.

Happy for you to gether further opinion tough.

[Ant040689]

Whilst we are on "discuss this price"......


The Palace game, v Derby.

I’m in a bit of a spot here.

Palace have been repeatedly mentioned as a good thing in this game, & I don’t doubt that.

Ant knows more about Palace then all of us, & he’s dead keen, but then he would be, would he not?

Others have supported his view, or not, its split pretty even. For sure, 3 or 4 months ago, deffo last Season, we’d have had a MAX here.

I have no view, though even I can see they are a worthy favourite.

But is the price value?

Is their form not fully exposed, the Bookies know all there is to know, & we don’t have access to any info they don’t?

The price opened at around Evens, & has barely moved in 3 days – they are still close to evens, in fact we can get Evens or better in 2 spots.

If the price is so good, why has everyone not piled in, & moved the price? Surely if they really were a 4/6 shot, the price would have long gone?

What am I missing?

 
http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/crystal-palace-v-derby/winner

All I would say is that we were evens against Ipswich at home and the price never moved at all and they were dead bottom of the table I believe! We smashed them 5-0.

I think it is an oversight. The bookies have been overlooking Palace in particular ever since we started our run. Probably because around this time last season we were in the top 3 and plummeted down the table. This year has a different feel and there is nothing at the moment that would suggest we will falter.

It is going to get increasingly hard in the next two or three games to get value from Palace as Zaha is getting a lot of press and if we do keep on winning we will be starting to separate ourselves at the top from second and third, especially as Cardiff play Middlesbrough on Saturday. Then the value probably won't be there.

Also a lot is being said about me being a little too enthusiastic about Palace, but I would say that I have been on these forums for close to 2 years now and it is literally in the last month I have started to chirp about how good we are. I would understand you guys taking me less seriously if all i did from the start was be a little ott about the Palace! I am not bothered at all or insulted or anything like that I enjoy the banter, but to think that what I say about Palace isn't impartial is wrong. I have always been level headed when it comes to us and haven't said or suggested anything about us that is fanciful or biased. The closest i got to that probably is by suggesting we won't lose at home again this season if we retain the services of Zaha and if he does go he won't be going for anything under £19m, but I still think those two predictions will be proved correct.


But back to the bet, I would just say we are mesmeric at home at the moment and I hold we should be 1.6 FTW. I don't mind if you decide not to put the bet on Tikay, I just like the opportunity to tell as many people as possible how good we are

[superwomble]

If you're happy to put £2 on Ella to be kicked off X Factor at a hundo, please have the same bet on Stevenage to be relegated at the same price.

I've been baffled beyond belief at their good start but fancy the wheels are about to come off big-style. They got smacked at the weekend and there's something not pleasing going on behind the scenes with Robin Shroooot.

Trouble seems to follow that young man around...

[Waz1892]

Tranmere 4/6 to beat Braintree?

Tranmere top of league 1, Braintree bottom 7 in blue sq (albeit a tight table at present)

Tranmere won last 2 games to nil, Braintree by own admission making changes as they had a big effort against Gateshead.

8/5 with Braintree +1

[maldini32]

Suarez bet is on Prem league zone>Liverpool team page>Suarez total goals.

I think its way too big, I wouldn't make it any bigger than a 2/1 shot.

Happy for you to gether further opinion tough.

Can you stick the link up plz mate, cant seem to find it.

[TightEnd]

Suarez bet must be a real goer. If it wasn't for suspension risk, normal injury risk he wouldn't be 9/2 surely?

[tikay]

Thanks Ant. With the best will in the world, you cannot possibly be impartial! None of us could in your spot right now.

And you may well be 100% right, I'm not disputing that at all.

But you'll have to explain this to me......


I think it is an oversight. The bookies have been overlooking Palace in particular ever since we started our run

An oversight by who? The bookies? If the price were really 4/6, & they are offering Evens, why have the big punters not bet it off the boards?

I have no anti-Palace agenda, & I think Palace will win, such as I can judge. I just need to know if it is a correct price, or a value price. And if the latter, why is the price still there, after 2 days?

 

[tikay]

Suarez bet is on Prem league zone>Liverpool team page>Suarez total goals.

I think its way too big, I wouldn't make it any bigger than a 2/1 shot.

Happy for you to gether further opinion tough.

Can you stick the link up plz mate, cant seem to find it.

There you go.....


http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/liverpool-specials/luis-suarez-total-premier-goals

[tikay]

PLAYER A

Lets assume Player A is on good form, very good, playing well and has scored lots of goals in the last 12 months, infact he has 20 Premier League goals in 29 games in 2012, impressive stuff.  He also has 12 International goals for a good, well respected country in the last 12 months or so.  Player A also likes Tulips.


PLAYER B

Lets assume Player B is also on good form, very good, playing well and has scored lots of goals in the last 12 months, infact he has 14 Premier League goals in 26 games in 2012, impressive stuff.  He also has 12 International goals for a good, well respected country in the last 12 months or so.  Player B likes Norfolk.



Player A does play for a better club side though, but perhaps this countered by the fact he will get less minutes on the pitch through being rested etc, Player B's side does not have this luxury.

Both Player A & B have 8 Premier League goals this season.


Player A is 2/9 to hit 20 Premier League goals this campaign.

Player B is 9/2 to hit 20 Premier League goals this campaign.


One of the above prices is way way out. Discuss.

Looks terrific value, thanks.

We are on.

We have £40 @ 9/2, BetVictor, Suarez to score 20 Premiership Goals this season.

This'll give us a lovely weekly sweat, too.



ON

Luis Suarez - Premier Goals Scored
20 Goals Or More
(Specials)
Odds:  9/2
Stake:  40.00
Possible Return:  220.00