Tips for Tikay

[Junior Senior]

I am sure a man who earns £20m a year can cover a £20k palp for his old man and his pals.

I weep for this country

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I missed off a zero?

[arbboy]

Yes can do now.  It's not a fancy in the slightest. I have been backing and laying a lot of golfers in the open all week and I have a big green position on Adam Scott for the open and want to turn him into red on the off chance he does win so i save a 3 figure commission bill.  200/1 at 365 160/1 to lay.  

For anyone else out there in similar position corals 28/1 garcia is similar and 125/1 dubiss both can be laid shorter if you want to nick a few quid risk free and/or have big green on them and want to avoid a potential commission bill on betfair.

So you make scott winning on betfair neutral by laying back your profit and if he wins you scoop more via 365?

No i laid £62.50 at 160.0 to nick £12.50 when he gets beat or break even and pay no commission if he does win somehow.

[arbboy]

Going back to the 'my son to win the open/play for england etc etc type bets?  How many of these bets do firms actually lay?  (anyone who has worked for a big 4 firm in the uk around to answer?) They seem to get stung a lot of them so i am assuming they must lay hundreds and thousands of them every year?  I have never seen a request for one ever at any firm i have worked for (i haven't worked for any of the big 4 in the uk).

The other thing is why would u waste £400 backing your son at 500/1 when if he wins the open the family will be minted for life anyway?

[Kmac84]

Going back to the 'my son to win the open/play for england etc etc type bets?  How many of these bets do firms actually lay?  (anyone who has worked for a big 4 firm in the uk around to answer?) They seem to get stung a lot of them so i am assuming they must lay hundreds and thousands of them every year?  I have never seen a request for one ever at any firm i have worked for (i haven't worked for any of the big 4 in the uk).

The other thing is why would u waste £400 backing your son at 500/1 when if he wins the open the family will be minted for life anyway?

Its a brag innit?

[arbboy]

punterz going to be punterz.  You have the bet to pay the mortgage off.  If your son wins the open your mortgage will be paid off before he wins it.

[Marky147]

Going back to the 'my son to win the open/play for england etc etc type bets?  How many of these bets do firms actually lay?  (anyone who has worked for a big 4 firm in the uk around to answer?) They seem to get stung a lot of them so i am assuming they must lay hundreds and thousands of them every year?  I have never seen a request for one ever at any firm i have worked for (i haven't worked for any of the big 4 in the uk).

The other thing is why would u waste £400 backing your son at 500/1 when if he wins the open the family will be minted for life anyway?

Do they?

I've not heard of many over the last few years, and you know when someone has had it off, because it's all over the papers.

In fact, I can't remember the last one I saw in the papers*

*I don't read them as often anymore


I've not got any kids, so can't answer the 'why do they bet on them', but I know I'd be getting on with the boys if a pal of mine had a nipper who was lively at 'insert sport'.

It's not his £400 is it, so it might be like a bullseye each between 8 of them, and they're all on for 25k.

I imagine most of these bets are lighting money on fire, but it sounds like these boys have had it right off with this one.

[tikay]

Going back to the 'my son to win the open/play for england etc etc type bets?  How many of these bets do firms actually lay?  (anyone who has worked for a big 4 firm in the uk around to answer?) They seem to get stung a lot of them so i am assuming they must lay hundreds and thousands of them every year?  I have never seen a request for one ever at any firm i have worked for (i haven't worked for any of the big 4 in the uk).

The other thing is why would u waste £400 backing your son at 500/1 when if he wins the open the family will be minted for life anyway?

I think the dad of a Man U player had a bet on his son making the first team, or some such. Ryan Tunnicliffe?

Just after Dubai's son was born, Dubai wanted a price for the lad to win The Open, or make the Ryder Cup Team, I seem to recall.

[redarmi]

Going back to the 'my son to win the open/play for england etc etc type bets?  How many of these bets do firms actually lay?  (anyone who has worked for a big 4 firm in the uk around to answer?) They seem to get stung a lot of them so i am assuming they must lay hundreds and thousands of them every year?  I have never seen a request for one ever at any firm i have worked for (i haven't worked for any of the big 4 in the uk).

The other thing is why would u waste £400 backing your son at 500/1 when if he wins the open the family will be minted for life anyway?

In almost 18 years working in the industry I don't ever recall getting one of these requests.  I only worked for one of the big four for a few years in the shops which probably makes my chances a bit less likely but I don't think they happen every day and to be honest I would be fairly reluctant to go a big enough price if requested.    The punter just always has to have more info than you in a lot of cases and if they are a relative is probably willing to go the extra mile for classes etc.  Of course that doesn't mean they will make it but I would think it makes them more likely.

[Junior Senior]

A lot of the time, i imagine the parent just wants the bet to brag about down the pub or as a talking point. I would imagine firms could actually lay a really crap price in theses situations and the punter will take it anyway. 

If the kid had just been born then as a bookie i would be less worried about laying a bet. If he is 15-16 i would be doing a bit of research for sure as the info on them at that stage would be much more indicative and actually freely available.

[DropTheHammer]

Chris Kirkland won one of these bets for family/friends. They got 100-1 when he was aged 11 to play for England before he was 30. Love this one because he only ever got one cap - subbed on at half time    

[arbboy]

someone else had 500/1 on a chinese player winning the World Snooker as well a few years ago 10 years before Ding appeared on the scene.  I know not many of them cop but as redarmi says it will take a lot of scores and bullseyes to fill the hod to pay rory's old man tomorrow.

[arbboy]

I still think generally they are awesome bets to lay i just don't think firms lay that many of them.  What price would you offer Federer one of his 4 kids wins a Wimbledon Singles title before they are 25 for example?

[Peter-27]

A bet that looks interesting is Lewis Hamilton to win the race tomorrow at 9/1, not entirely sure if it would be a good bet mathematically - but it is an interesting one!

Even if Lewis does start last tomorrow, he's obviously going to finish 2nd barring a mechanical problem - that Mercedes car is too dominant to suggest otherwise. However, what if Nico Rosberg retires from the race? Lewis would win in that situation. Just not really sure if 9/1 is a good price or not? Always the possibility of doing it each way, thoughts?

The Force India's qualified 9th & 10th, brilliant effort by them, much higher than expected. If I knew this before the weekend began, I would have suggested those podium bets straight away. What is curious though is that we got on at 16/1 & 25/1 yet the price is now 20/1 & 33/1 .. really not sure why it's gone up. There is FAR more chance that Force India will get a podium now compared to at the start of the weekend, very strange.

[Marky147]

I still think generally they are awesome bets to lay i just don't think firms lay that many of them.  What price would you offer Federer one of his 4 kids wins a Wimbledon Singles title before they are 25 for example?

Interesting one for sure, and hopefully one of you boys with contacts will be able to snaffle a little more info.

I wouldn't know how to price Federer up for Wimbledon next year, so not even going to guess how to price one of his nippers up

[arbboy]

I still think generally they are awesome bets to lay i just don't think firms lay that many of them.  What price would you offer Federer one of his 4 kids wins a Wimbledon Singles title before they are 25 for example?

Interesting one for sure, and hopefully one of you boys with contacts will be able to snaffle a little more info.

I wouldn't know how to price Federer up for Wimbledon next year, so not even going to guess how to price one of his nippers up

Onny has a little girl now and he is a decent tennis player (ranked in top 800 or something in england on the official rankings - top 2 in Cumbria) and he asked me what price his little girl (2) wins wimbledon and beats one of Fed's daughters in the final!!  So these punters do exist i suppose!