Tips for Tikay

[Doobs]

Leeds Rhinos are trying to get a campaign going to get Kevin Sinfield as SPOTY.  He has been backed down to 22/1 best.  I don't know if there is much mileage left in that price.  I took a bit of insurance personally. 

[superwomble]

So I've just received a phone-call with on offer from a sportsbook I use, place a £30 bet at more than evens and if it loses receive a free bet to the same value as the losing bet.

What's the correct +ev way to use this?

I would back something at a big price which is slightly under on betfair and lay it for a break even spot after commission.  Massively likely to get the free bet then at no cost to you.  Then use the free bet in the same manner and you have effectively been given £30 in cash for free whether it wins or loses if you like a no risk approach and just want to trouser £30 and have suitable funds to lay a 10/1 shot in bf for £300 liabability.  

If not then just have a bet for £30 which you were going to have anyway.  If it loses and you get a free bet make sure you use the free bet on a biggish price.  10/1 or bigger.  Don't back anything sub 10/1 with it. 

Cheers arbboy, so looking at City v Hull tonight, I can back the draw on that sportsbook for 5.5, so £30 on that returns £165. I can then lay the draw on the exchange at 5.9, a liability of £154.74 gives me a return of £184.74 (£30 profit).

So if it is a draw I've profited a shade over a tenner risk free, if it's not a draw then I've broke even but have got the £30 free bet, sound right?

The Sportsbook will return £150. You don't get back the £30 token when you win. If you did we'd be backing a short priced selection with a high win percentage.

Don't worry we've all had to have this explained to us at some point.

The offer is bet £30 of your own money and if it loses then you get the free bet, so in this case I would get the money back I just wouldn't get the free bet afterwards.

Realise I've mangled the exchange side of it though as my liability would actually be £186.32 not £154.74.

This is matched betting, it's what I spend much of my free time doing and I've made a fair old chunk doing it now - using bookies' free bet etc. offers and turning them into cash with no risk. It's not gambling, and I guess pro punters would scream about losing ev, but it's the nits way to make good money. I'm a member of a site which shows you how to do it all with instructions, videos, calculator, odds-matching etc. so you don't have to worry about trying to work it out yourself.

Won't post the link on here but if anyone is interested feel free to drop me a PM.

[Tal]

Tikay, money and PM sent.



A piffling thousand? Pay the fellow, Edmund, and damn his impudence

[TightEnd]

chris eubank was chucked out last night?

[superwomble]

chris eubank was chucked out last night?

Yep.

[superwomble]

In case it's of use to Fred/anyone, I noticed today that WH are now doing 2nd place cashback on all races at one meeting per day this month, and not just on mobile. Southwell today so apologies if this is a bit late for anyone!

Catterick today.

[TightEnd]

Good evening all,

NFL wise:

I'm keen on Green Bay this Thursday @ Detroit, the line currently seems to be moving for Detroit. GB with Rodgers have a tremendous record in games they really need and this fits that category, He's basically still the best and seems to find enough to get it done. I can't decide whether we should hold out for possibly as big as  Evs -2.5 or take the 5/6 currently on offer. Interested in peoples views as always. Hopefully we can get a bet on for Fred.

watching this

http://www.oddschecker.com/american-football/nfl/green-bay-packers-at-detroit-lions/point-spread

i expexct you don't want to take -3 10/11?

[TightEnd]

Gary Neville 7/2 to take England reins after spell in Spain.Bet365

that has to be an interesting price doesn't it?

an option on doing well at valencia, if he does having been under Hodgson, English and with english success unlikely at euro 2016 he'd be in pole position, would he not?

[BorntoBubble]

Gary Neville 7/2 to take England reins after spell in Spain.Bet365

that has to be an interesting price doesn't it?

an option on doing well at valencia, if he does having been under Hodgson, English and with english success unlikely at euro 2016 he'd be in pole position, would he not?

Is gary neville stupid enough to take the england job on?

[TightEnd]

Oldham west tomorrow

https://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/betting/politics/british/local-by-elections/oldham-west-royton-by-election/221137036/

if you wanted to get bullish (from a wallet perspective) about the UKIP chances read this from the grauniad

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/dec/01/labour-oldham-west-byelection-jeremy-corbyn?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet


more realistically a lab majority of under 2000 is into 11/10 from 7/4 when mentioned iirc

[RickBFA]

Sheff Wed play Derby on Sunday.

Derby in rich vein of form, Wednesday have been strong at home but have a few injuries.

Looks like Lees at centre half is out for 2 months after getting injured at Stoke, he has been immense this season and will be a big miss.

Loovens is usually his centre half partner and played last night, may be struggling too with a hamstring problem.

Micheal Turner is a capable player but he has been injured too - not sure if he will be fit for the game.

Wednesday could have 2 reserve centre halves playing (Dielna and Lachman) who have not played this season.

Choral are 29/20 for a Derby win. Looks a great bet if you can get on. Recommend £30.

[arbboy]

Sheff Wed play Derby on Sunday.

Derby in rich vein of form, Wednesday have been strong at home but have a few injuries.

Looks like Lees at centre half is out for 2 months after getting injured at Stoke, he has been immense this season and will be a big miss.

Loovens is usually his centre half partner and played last night, may be struggling too with a hamstring problem.

Micheal Turner is a capable player but he has been injured too - not sure if he will be fit for the game.

Wednesday could have 2 reserve centre halves playing (Dielna and Lachman) who have not played this season.

Choral are 29/20 for a Derby win. Looks a great bet if you can get on. Recommend £30.

I went to the Stoke Wednesday game last night.  Hats off to your fans.  Different class throughout the game until it went 2-0 then they lost a bit of voice.  For an hour 1-0 down they totally outsung the stokies non stop.  As for your team you could have played for 10 hours last night and not scored.  Frightening how poor you were.  Butland probably went straight back into the dressing room and put his suit on he wouldn't have needed a shower.  He literally did nothing all game.  Can only see Derby being backed based on that performance last night.

[RickBFA]

Sheff Wed play Derby on Sunday.

Derby in rich vein of form, Wednesday have been strong at home but have a few injuries.

Looks like Lees at centre half is out for 2 months after getting injured at Stoke, he has been immense this season and will be a big miss.

Loovens is usually his centre half partner and played last night, may be struggling too with a hamstring problem.

Micheal Turner is a capable player but he has been injured too - not sure if he will be fit for the game.

Wednesday could have 2 reserve centre halves playing (Dielna and Lachman) who have not played this season.

Choral are 29/20 for a Derby win. Looks a great bet if you can get on. Recommend £30.

I went to the Stoke Wednesday game last night.  Hats off to your fans.  Different class throughout the game until it went 2-0 then they lost a bit of voice.  For an hour 1-0 down they totally outsung the stokies non stop.  As for your team you could have played for 10 hours last night and not scored.  Frightening how poor you were.  Butland probably went straight back into the dressing room and put his suit on he wouldn't have needed a shower.  He literally did nothing all game.  Can only see Derby being backed based on that performance last night.

Sounds like we just didn't turn up last night.

Also Bannan and Forestieri who are influential players were missing too.

[TightEnd]

Klitshcko announces intention for rematch with Fury

https://www.instagram.com/p/-yztdju7Bg/

[TightEnd]

it would have to be 11/8 betvictor

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/sheffield-wednesday-v-derby/winner

i can do that or wait Rick?