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[tikay]

Morning.

Not sure if Fred did my Reed top scorer suggestion, but for those that did follow me in, I see the foolhardy little scamp has probably asked to take on Rory.

We look like being on possibly the best player, of the Cup, thus far, and not pick up a bean.

That said, if Europe are to win, we need the top boys to start well or it could turn into a demolition. Clarke has nearly put our team out in order of strength, bar Westwood, of course.

It's one of those days where I would sacrifice my pocket to see Europe win, but then be gutted if Reed were to lose but US still win anyway.

Can't wait either way.

Morning Adz,

We seem to have £100 @ 7/1 on Reed to be "Top American". Is that what you mean by "top scorer"?

You have 50 each way on him.  Not sure if that's good or bad.  Several other americans on 2.  Half is good enough for a payout.

Rose needs at least a half to get a payout on the place part of that bet.

If Kuchar wins he will get in the top "4".  There are exactly 4 above 2 at the minute.  Reed/Spieth on 2.5 and McIlroy/Pieters on 3, but Reed and McIlroy play each other.

There are 5 Europeans on 0, the Americans have all won at least one match. 

Off golfing myself at one of Woods courses, The Players, in a min, so cant respond, but worth taking some profit out of Reed here Doobs, bearing in mind he has Rory and its a bit Shit or Bust?

WAL

Enjoy.

[tikay]

Suggest we put £25 each way on Left Hand in the Arc.  She is 20/1 quarter first 3.  Nothing flashy about her.  Improved all season.  Lost the french oaks by half a length, then won her next two by about the same.  3 year old fillies have a good record in this too, though obviously she isn't Treve yet.

Can only get the 25/1 3 places combo with 365, so pls confirm you want it on.

Hi Doobs,

Slightly confiused - are you offering to place the bet for us?

If so, yes please.

Yes if that wasn't clear.

It was probably clear to everyone else......

Thanks Doobs, BOOKED.

Think Fred has a few bets to settle with you, (Ryder Cup & Arc) let me know in the morning if & how much I owe you please & I'll settle up.

And for Tighty's book-keeping benefit......

BET PLACED

[tikay]

I think the Detroit Lions -3 points have to be the Nap for today in the NFL.

The lions offence is on fire. Marvin Jones looks the real deal (lucky for me as I got him in all 4 of my fantasy teams) and Matt Stafford since Jim Bob Cooter #CooterForPresident The offence has been much more efficient and one of the best in the league.
 They're up against a decimated Bears team who may as well give up on the season already. Their Defence is useless and their offence isn't much better. Hoyer tried desperately to get Kevin White in the game last week. And Zach Miller. Their tight end scored a couple. He should score again against the Lions who always concede to that position. But the Lions should have too much for the Bears and I can see them winning by 10 let alone 4 to cover the spread.

30 on Detroit -3. Should be able to get 10/11 from most places

Thanks, Tighty remains AWOL, so I've gone with this.

I don't have all the Passwords to hand, & the best I can get with those I have is 20/23, which is haf a smidgeon worse, but we've gone with that.

We have £30 @ 20/23, Wm Hill, Detroit -3.

BET PLACED

[Doobs]

Morning.

Not sure if Fred did my Reed top scorer suggestion, but for those that did follow me in, I see the foolhardy little scamp has probably asked to take on Rory.

We look like being on possibly the best player, of the Cup, thus far, and not pick up a bean.

That said, if Europe are to win, we need the top boys to start well or it could turn into a demolition. Clarke has nearly put our team out in order of strength, bar Westwood, of course.

It's one of those days where I would sacrifice my pocket to see Europe win, but then be gutted if Reed were to lose but US still win anyway.

Can't wait either way.

Morning Adz,

We seem to have £100 @ 7/1 on Reed to be "Top American". Is that what you mean by "top scorer"?

You have 50 each way on him.  Not sure if that's good or bad.  Several other americans on 2.  Half is good enough for a payout.

Rose needs at least a half to get a payout on the place part of that bet.

If Kuchar wins he will get in the top "4".  There are exactly 4 above 2 at the minute.  Reed/Spieth on 2.5 and McIlroy/Pieters on 3, but Reed and McIlroy play each other.

There are 5 Europeans on 0, the Americans have all won at least one match.  

Off golfing myself at one of Woods courses, The Players, in a min, so cant respond, but worth taking some profit out of Reed here Doobs, bearing in mind he has Rory and its a bit Shit or Bust?

I dare say we'll end up with something.  If Reed messes up, we still have chances with Kuchar and Rose, and maybe 2.5 might just get a place anyway.  Kuchar is playing kaymer too.

Reed has had some pretty bad luck with the draws.  Kuchar runs good obv.

[TightEnd]

Morning.

Not sure if Fred did my Reed top scorer suggestion, but for those that did follow me in, I see the foolhardy little scamp has probably asked to take on Rory.

We look like being on possibly the best player, of the Cup, thus far, and not pick up a bean.

That said, if Europe are to win, we need the top boys to start well or it could turn into a demolition. Clarke has nearly put our team out in order of strength, bar Westwood, of course.

It's one of those days where I would sacrifice my pocket to see Europe win, but then be gutted if Reed were to lose but US still win anyway.

Can't wait either way.

Morning Adz,

We seem to have £100 @ 7/1 on Reed to be "Top American". Is that what you mean by "top scorer"?

You have 50 each way on him.  Not sure if that's good or bad.  Several other americans on 2.  Half is good enough for a payout.

Rose needs at least a half to get a payout on the place part of that bet.

If Kuchar wins he will get in the top "4".  There are exactly 4 above 2 at the minute.  Reed/Spieth on 2.5 and McIlroy/Pieters on 3, but Reed and McIlroy play each other.

There are 5 Europeans on 0, the Americans have all won at least one match. 

Off golfing myself at one of Woods courses, The Players, in a min, so cant respond, but worth taking some profit out of Reed here Doobs, bearing in mind he has Rory and its a bit Shit or Bust?

I dare say we'll end up with something.  If Reed messes up, we still have chances with Kuchar and Rose, and maybe 2.5 might just get a place anyway.  Kuchar is playing kaymer too.

Reed has had some pretty bad luck with the draws.  Kuchar runs good obv.

part of the bad luck with the draws is self inflicted isn't it, on both sides?

both captains put out speith/reed and rose/stenson 1st or last in the groups of matches so its not a great surprise to see strength meet strength continually.

was surprised neither slotted in a top pair to go 2nd or 3rd and try to avoid the other gun partnerships.

as it is we've not run so well on reed and rose as they keep playing each other, though both could still be profitable for us

much the same on the singles

surprise surprise USA know Europe are going to front load so match up. where's the original thought/game theory etc to try to out fox the opponent?

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[DMorgan]

Do the teams have to announce their order or play at the same time or is there some sort of home advantage where they get to pick last?

[TightEnd]

Do the teams have to announce their order or play at the same time or is there some sort of home advantage where they get to pick last?

captains have to submit their pairings/order by a set time, same for singles

organiser then opens the envelopes and announces the draw

these captains seem quite set in their ways.

if i know rose and stenson are going to go 4th, then DL3 does too. He's ahead, he can pop reed/spieth 4th and meet strength with strength. the onus was on Clarke to be innovative i think. Dn't think we saw that in many pairings or their order, or the singles order.

[Doobs]

Do the teams have to announce their order or play at the same time or is there some sort of home advantage where they get to pick last?

captains have to submit their pairings/order by a set time, same for singles

organiser then opens the envelopes and announces the draw

these captains seem quite set in their ways.

if i know rose and stenson are going to go 4th, then DL3 does too. He's ahead, he can pop reed/spieth 4th and meet strength with strength. the onus was on Clarke to be innovative i think. Dn't think we saw that in many pairings or their order, or the singles order.

I don't see why you think doing something differently is going to be better.  Surely winning two 50/50s is easier than winning a 75/25 then a 25/75?  Given the match situation, DL3 gains most from a bunch of lopsided encounters?    It is all a bit debateable anyway, as they could both do something innovative/bad/good and end up in the same situation with strength vs strength.

As I said on the other thread, I'd put Westwood out right near the front when the pressure is least.

[Tal]

Julius Thomas is injured. Marcedes Lewis will be the starting catching tight end today for the Jaguars.

28/1 first touchdown scorer still. Shouty Red Man hasn't noticed. Thomas still listed at 16/1.

Worth £20 at the first and last touchdown prices.

[AndrewT]

Do the teams have to announce their order or play at the same time or is there some sort of home advantage where they get to pick last?

captains have to submit their pairings/order by a set time, same for singles

organiser then opens the envelopes and announces the draw

these captains seem quite set in their ways.

if i know rose and stenson are going to go 4th, then DL3 does too. He's ahead, he can pop reed/spieth 4th and meet strength with strength. the onus was on Clarke to be innovative i think. Dn't think we saw that in many pairings or their order, or the singles order.

I don't see why you think doing something differently is going to be better.  Surely winning two 50/50s is easier than winning a 75/25 then a 25/75?  Given the match situation, DL3 gains most from a bunch of lopsided encounters?    It is all a bit debateable anyway, as they could both do something innovative/bad/good and end up in the same situation with strength vs strength.

As I said on the other thread, I'd put Westwood out right near the front when the pressure is least.

I think this is true - the USA need just five points to win. If Darren Clarke wanted to sacrifice a couple of points by not putting big guns against Reed/Spieth then DL3 would say 'thanks very much'

Europe need as many coin flips (or 45/55) as they can.

[Dekka]

Do the teams have to announce their order or play at the same time or is there some sort of home advantage where they get to pick last?

captains have to submit their pairings/order by a set time, same for singles

organiser then opens the envelopes and announces the draw

these captains seem quite set in their ways.

if i know rose and stenson are going to go 4th, then DL3 does too. He's ahead, he can pop reed/spieth 4th and meet strength with strength. the onus was on Clarke to be innovative i think. Dn't think we saw that in many pairings or their order, or the singles order.

I'm not sure Clarke had any option other than to front load the singles order.  Being 3 points behind if Europe lose the first few matches it could all be over before the latter games reach the turn.  In his shoes the only innovative thing I might have done is left Westwood out of the singles altogether...

[TightEnd]

Julius Thomas is injured. Marcedes Lewis will be the starting catching tight end today for the Jaguars.

28/1 first touchdown scorer still. Shouty Red Man hasn't noticed. Thomas still listed at 16/1.

Worth £20 at the first and last touchdown prices.

thanks, i am restricted here from accessing stuff

Lewis is 4/1 anytime. Thomas was 7/4. Lewis isn't quite the red zone threat Thomas is these days but the right price is short of 5/2 not 4/1

[Cavey007]

I think the Detroit Lions -3 points have to be the Nap for today in the NFL.

The lions offence is on fire. Marvin Jones looks the real deal (lucky for me as I got him in all 4 of my fantasy teams) and Matt Stafford since Jim Bob Cooter #CooterForPresident The offence has been much more efficient and one of the best in the league.
 They're up against a decimated Bears team who may as well give up on the season already. Their Defence is useless and their offence isn't much better. Hoyer tried desperately to get Kevin White in the game last week. And Zach Miller. Their tight end scored a couple. He should score again against the Lions who always concede to that position. But the Lions should have too much for the Bears and I can see them winning by 10 let alone 4 to cover the spread.

30 on Detroit -3. Should be able to get 10/11 from most places

Thanks, Tighty remains AWOL, so I've gone with this.

I don't have all the Passwords to hand, & the best I can get with those I have is 20/23, which is haf a smidgeon worse, but we've gone with that.

We have £30 @ 20/23, Wm Hill, Detroit -3.

BET PLACED

Nice one. Thank you. Hopefully for you and me it comes in!

[Doobs]

Suggest we put £25 each way on Left Hand in the Arc.  She is 20/1 quarter first 3.  Nothing flashy about her.  Improved all season.  Lost the french oaks by half a length, then won her next two by about the same.  3 year old fillies have a good record in this too, though obviously she isn't Treve yet.

Can only get the 25/1 3 places combo with 365, so pls confirm you want it on.

Hi Doobs,

Slightly confiused - are you offering to place the bet for us?

If so, yes please.

Yes if that wasn't clear.

Aiden O'Brien 1-2-3 Found, Highland Reel, Order of St George. 

[horseplayer]

Amazing what dropping given did for stoke

Jobbing back up lee grant with a rare moment in the sun


Was great to see Bayern drop two points at home yesterday


Not so good to see Dortmund then drop three tbh