UK General Election 2015

[arbboy]

Labour just need to realise what they offer as a party the modern day uk population has no interest in.

You are drawing conclusions that just suit what you want, but are not justified. Labour lost the election, but yesterday they were expected to win. You can't say that the UK population has no interest in a party that was expected to win. The Tory victory wasn't for the reason you are claiming. They won because the population swallowed the false idea they put about that a Labour government would have to keep conceding things to the SNP to win votes in the House, not because they have turned away from Labour for ever, as you want to believe.

You keep kidding yourself.

But he is right. 

He isn't right at all.  The polls missed off the silent vote factor of both the tories AND ukip.  Never been a double silent vote factor which destroyed the labour and libs vote share like last night.  They were not expected to win at any stage labour even pre exit polls.  Not sure where you getting this data from.  When the double silent vote actually materialised it was GSM for the lefties.

Anyway i am done on this thread.  Thanks for all the lively debates over the weeks even from the lefties.  See you all again in 2020.

[jakally]

Labour just need to realise what they offer as a party the modern day uk population has no interest in.

You are drawing conclusions that just suit what you want, but are not justified. Labour lost the election, but yesterday they were expected to win. You can't say that the UK population has no interest in a party that was expected to win. The Tory victory wasn't for the reason you are claiming. They won because the population swallowed the false idea they put about that a Labour government would have to keep conceding things to the SNP to win votes in the House, not because they have turned away from Labour for ever, as you want to believe.

You keep kidding yourself.

But he is right.  

I think the SNP factor was a much smaller one than is being made out by the Labour supporters.
I'm aware of a handful of people who are not staunch tories, but voted that way this time, and never heard any of them mention it as a basis for their decision.

[aaron1867]

Would I be right in saying that Tory voters are actually scared to say they are voting Tory? You never would have thought that the Tories would have got a majority yesterday, so they clearly have a huge following and some of this following are going about it very quietly. I suppose just like the "No" voters in the Scottish referendum?

Are Tory voters actually afraid to admit they are pro Tory?

[kukushkin88]

The Biritish people have spoken!

I´ve spent hundreds of hours on it and all I have is this:

The poor, unwell, disabled and caring community in this community took a huge hit today!

Austerity makes people c**** and c**** vote Tory.

Thanks to all for the civilised discussion on this thread, I learnt so much and it was excellent!

[jakally]

Would I be right in saying that Tory voters are actually scared to say they are voting Tory? You never would have thought that the Tories would have got a majority yesterday, so they clearly have a huge following and some of this following are going about it very quietly. I suppose just like the "No" voters in the Scottish referendum?

Are Tory voters actually afraid to admit they are pro Tory?

I don't think scared, but it's likely that more Labour supporters are upfront, and aggressive about their support, and more Tories just vote.

[kukushkin88]

Would I be right in saying that Tory voters are actually scared to say they are voting Tory? You never would have thought that the Tories would have got a majority yesterday, so they clearly have a huge following and some of this following are going about it very quietly. I suppose just like the "No" voters in the Scottish referendum?

Are Tory voters actually afraid to admit they are pro Tory?

I don't think scared, but it's likely that more Labour supporters are upfront, and aggressive about their support, and more Tories just vote.

It does seem to be the case. Any idea why?

[BigAdz]

The Biritish people have spoken!

I´ve spent hundreds of hours on it and all I have is this:

The poor, unwell, disabled and caring community in this community took a huge hit today!

Austerity makes people c**** and c**** vote Tory.

Thanks to all for the civilised discussion on this thread, I learnt so much and it was excellent!

Another bad loser.

Surprised at you Kush! )))

[The Camel]

And so it starts.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/hours-after-the-election-the-dwp-says-is-looking-to-cut-a-disabled-access-to-work-scheme-10237191.html

When you read the article, it says the coalition government significantly increased spending on this scheme in last 5 years and are now looking at capping the cost of the scheme.

I presume you applaud the increased spending over the last 5 years under a Tory dominated coalition on the scheme?

Surprisingly you can't always believe ever word you read in a newspaper and how they headline it.

You come across as particularly bitter about the election result. Even Ed Balls was dignified in defeat.

Of course I'm bitter.

There has emerged a significant section of England which has never been seen before: the right wing poor.

These people are so utterly brain dead it makes me furious.

When they have to wait 6 months for a hospital appointment, have their children placed in schools they don't want them to go to and can't afford them to go to university and when public services are cut to fund tax breaks for the rich, then maybe they'll maybe they will reflect what a fuck up they've made.

Until that time we've had the most divisive governemnt since Thatcher foisted on us.

[KarmaDope]

Would I be right in saying that Tory voters are actually scared to say they are voting Tory? You never would have thought that the Tories would have got a majority yesterday, so they clearly have a huge following and some of this following are going about it very quietly. I suppose just like the "No" voters in the Scottish referendum?

Are Tory voters actually afraid to admit they are pro Tory?

I don't think scared, but it's likely that more Labour supporters are upfront, and aggressive about their support, and more Tories just vote.

This.

Especially on Social Media.

On here it's been a civilised debate. On FB/Twitter I've seen people just seem to lose their mind when it comes to this election and the result, giving off some serious abuse to Tory voters who had stated their intentions. Some of the things I've seen posted have really surprised me tbh. Definitely a lot of people who have voted Tory that have kept it quiet.

[jakally]

Would I be right in saying that Tory voters are actually scared to say they are voting Tory? You never would have thought that the Tories would have got a majority yesterday, so they clearly have a huge following and some of this following are going about it very quietly. I suppose just like the "No" voters in the Scottish referendum?

Are Tory voters actually afraid to admit they are pro Tory?

I don't think scared, but it's likely that more Labour supporters are upfront, and aggressive about their support, and more Tories just vote.

It does seem to be the case. Any idea why?

I really don't know, I would only be guessing.
It must be along the lines that lots of people are happy with their lives, and don't feel the need to get on the attack with anyone in particular, just do what is necessary to maintain the status quo.

[jakally]

 

These people are so utterly brain dead it makes me furious.

The average IQ of a Tory voter, is higher that that of someone who votes Labour.....

[The Camel]

These people are so utterly brain dead it makes me furious.

The average IQ of a Tory voter, is higher that that of someone who votes Labour.....

But these people aren't average Tory voters. They should be Labour voters. But they think they are one stroke of good fortune away from being millionaires. Del Boy Englanders. Who will die in poverty having propped up the Tories.

[aaron1867]

I think I might have posted yesterday about this too, but when I went to the polling station yesterday all I did was give them my polling card & they gave me two pieces of paper. No questions, nothing.

I am quite worried at how easy it would have been just to go with someone else polling card and vote? Not saying it has anything to do with the result, but it did worry me at how easy it could potentially be.

[The Camel]

No one knows why the Tories won but I would guess these two factors were major:

1. The Tories successfully scared the shit of little Englanders that Labour would do a post election deal with the SNP and that would cost them money in raised taxes.

2. Britain is now a country obsessed with image. Why are Posh Spice, Joey Essex, Cheryl Cole and the like in the papers every day? The press has portrayed Ed as an dithering idiot, slobering over a bacon sandwich and with a daft look on his face when someone asks for a photo.

Enough people bought that image of Ed and it made him unelectable.

And that sucks, because he would have been the best PM in my lifetime.

[BigAdz]

And so it starts.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/hours-after-the-election-the-dwp-says-is-looking-to-cut-a-disabled-access-to-work-scheme-10237191.html

When you read the article, it says the coalition government significantly increased spending on this scheme in last 5 years and are now looking at capping the cost of the scheme.

I presume you applaud the increased spending over the last 5 years under a Tory dominated coalition on the scheme?

Surprisingly you can't always believe ever word you read in a newspaper and how they headline it.

You come across as particularly bitter about the election result. Even Ed Balls was dignified in defeat.

Of course I'm bitter.

There has emerged a significant section of England which has never been seen before: the right wing poor.

These people are so utterly brain dead it makes me furious.

When they have to wait 6 months for a hospital appointment, have their children placed in schools they don't want them to go to and can't afford them to go to university and when public services are cut to fund tax breaks for the rich, then maybe they'll maybe they will reflect what a fuck up they've made.

Until that time we've had the most divisive governemnt since Thatcher foisted on us.

Because it was so different when Labour were last in power, or in two years time if they had got into power?

You make it sound like Cameron is a British dictator taking money off the poor to give directly to his cronies. Surely even you don't really think that?

You're living in a stereotype fantasy world sir.