The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

have you read the article? not down to companies, down to customs logjams/delays

Yes but don’t you think it’s possible to prepare for that? FFS tighty come on, stop being so one eyed and blinkered.....

lol.

i am realistic, and think we should all be very concerned at the way things are developing

you cannot tell anyone to stop being one eyed and blinkered, you are the worst of the worst completely dismissing those with other points of view all the time.

still at least you've made me laugh out loud, so that's something

[Woodsey]

have you read the article? not down to companies, down to customs logjams/delays

Yes but don’t you think it’s possible to prepare for that? FFS tighty come on, stop being so one eyed and blinkered.....

lol.

i am realistic, and think we should all be very concerned at the way things are developing

you cannot tell anyone to stop being one eyed and blinkered, you are the worst of the worst completely dismissing those with other points of view all the time.

still at least you've made me laugh out loud, so that's something

Well maybe I’m am, but you are from the other side also, don’t even bother denying it. Dismiss? Sure when someone is posting bollocks iI tell them straight up, if that dismissing views it then I’m happy to do so!  ;

[TightEnd]

but give me reasons why this isn't a concern? its not the pharma companies who are the problem. which comment you seemed to think was enough to dismiss an article well sourced in a broadsheet newspaper

i think we have made a tragic mistake, and am even more convinced as every day passes. the impossibility of the irish border situation and the terrible difficulty May has of appeasing her right wingers and europe simultaneously only makes it clearer

i am yet to hear from you (admittedly, very unlikely from you at any point) or any other Brexiteer convincing counter arguments that solve irish border, customs to name two things

just baseless bombast and calling people like me snowflakes.

the game for Brexit should be well and truly up. Its unachievable unless a) no deal crash out or b) soft as can be, remaining in SM and CU

Sadly Labour is led by a socialist anti capitalist who dislikes europe for other reasons so there is nothing for remainers to coalesce around.

Hence we are under a year away from something very nasty indeed

[Woodsey]

Out for the day.....later....

[TightEnd]

I look forward to hearing your solution for the Irish Border problem, and a customs solution by March 2019

if your response to me and the times article is “Project Fear” I look forward to your volunteering for service on the M20, at Dover, Channel Tunnel and Holyhead on April 1st 2019...

It all hinges on a judgement that a no checks No Deal will be reciprocated by EU, based on no evidence.

[TightEnd]

. so you may ask, why haven't you heard more about this if it was such a serious risk of major disruption?... well this is where the story about the Brexit business gagging clauses come in

"Sky News has established the Government has been signing a series of secret agreements with companies and industry groups over highly controversial outcomes of the Brexit process for Britain's trade border.

The attempt to enforce silence about outside discussions on the changes urgently required to the border after Brexit has raised eyebrows across industry.

A series of non-disclosure agreements have been forced into the process of consultation with the logistics companies that actually operate the UK border, with one industry source calculating that "many dozens" have been signed."

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-government-paranoia-over-secret-business-agreements-11290344

just quietly there are reports that

* nuclear companies activated plans to reposition nuclear materials as contingency against No Deal
* pharma co's stockpiling drugs on different sides of post Brexit borders
* auto companies moving supply chains

but obviously these temporary moves to maintain the supply chain don't last for ever, eventually those supplies run out

[TightEnd]

Germany's brexit co-ordinator

Peter Ptassek
‏
@GermanyonBrexit

What to expect from June #EUCO regarding #brexit ? My personal impression: Not many are expecting very much now. If this is so, October would then have to solve ALL problems (withdrawal, NI, governance, future …) in one go. Odds still unclear.

[TightEnd]

DUP leader threatens to withdraw support for Theresa May on Brexit customs plans

Arlene Foster has said keeping the same arrangements in Northern Ireland as in the rest of the EU is a 'red line'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-dup-arlene-foster-customs-theresa-may-a8381276.html

(that early election decision was terrible, history defining mistake, as it turned out)

[TightEnd]

A sobering reminder of the huge number of intractable issues left to be sorted out. How long can they keep being postponed?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brexit-10-key-questions-about-the-futures-of-britain-and-europe-85xnszs55

[TightEnd]

Notices to Stakeholders on the EU website which spell out the consequences for various sectors of the UK becoming a third country. There are currently 64 of them.

https://ec.europa.eu/info/brexit/brexit-preparedness_en …

[TightEnd]

British support for remaining in or leaving the EU, 2012-2018

Source: YouGov polls/Harold Clarke

[TightEnd]

Those Brexit impact scenarios in full.

[TightEnd]

lol

5 going on 6, with a suggestion of 7 brewing

[Woodsey]

Not had time to reply about yesterday, but I see you are on full on wind up mode now. Defcon 5! 

[TightEnd]

not at all

i hope when you reply we don't get

"brexit means brexit"
"stop being a snowflake"
"get a grip"

the time has passed for such basic level bombast

and actually some constructive thoughts for solutions on irish border, customs and withdrawal/no deal and what it means

Meanwhile, i am off to stockpile some more food, OTC medical supplies and save more money (only half joking on that too)