The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[kukushkin88]

Good to see Morrissey chiming in with some hot political takes.

Full interview transcript is here:-

https://www.morrisseycentral.com/messagesfrommorrissey/234417-the-interview

He supports For Britain who I know next to nothing about other than they were too racist for Farage. The interview is a whole lot of rambling self absorbed nonsense. I don't know why I read it.

“If you call someone racist in modern Britain you are telling them that you have run out of words. You are shutting the debate down and running off. The word is meaningless now. Everyone ultimately prefers their own race … does this make everyone racist?”

I have a friend that I consider to be very thoughtful/intelligent, every now and then he says something very similar to that last sentence, it’s not great 🤦‍♂️.

[RED-DOG]

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Osaka summit today

There's nobody here, it's just you and me
It's where I want to be....

[Doobs]

Good to see Morrissey chiming in with some hot political takes.

Full interview transcript is here:-

https://www.morrisseycentral.com/messagesfrommorrissey/234417-the-interview

He supports For Britain who I know next to nothing about other than they were too racist for Farage. The interview is a whole lot of rambling self absorbed nonsense. I don't know why I read it.

“If you call someone racist in modern Britain you are telling them that you have run out of words. You are shutting the debate down and running off. The word is meaningless now. Everyone ultimately prefers their own race … does this make everyone racist?”

I heard someone say they had a scale for the biggest c**** in the World.  It was ranked from 1 to 10, where Morrisey was a 10.  He said he had to make it logarithmic, so that others could begin getting scores at 8.  It must be sad for his fans how he has turned out, but the signs were always there. 

[aaron1867]

Just reading through media and social media and in all of this, I’ve never really believed the hype of us being a country in crisis. We aren’t rioting, unemployment is still going down, we’re still a very developed nation & the economy is fairly steady. We’re not in crisis.

Essentially we have gone backwards because the hatefulness & backward thinking folk got Brexit over the line. If Brexit does happen, we are of course going to go backwards even more, despite the progress before 2016. We’ve sat and seen ourselves as a country that isn’t racist and live off the world seeing us as polite old England, but the vote told us the opposite. The hateful agendas of those that got Brexit over the line is seeing us seen differently. Not that it matters.

What is more important is that nothing can really change from Brexit. People have warped minds if they think migration/immigration is going to stop, £39bn won’t be paid, it will be paid & if some of it isn’t, Will it all go to benefit us? Of course it won’t. The people that want our own laws, but yet we aren’t going to start changing laws to suit Dave from Barnsley, because they’re currently pretty fair.

A few years after we’re out & nothing will have really changed. Of course people will have lost jobs because Clive Voted Brexit because he doesn’t like black people. But who cares? We can still make our own laws.

But are we currently in crisis? Absolutely not.

[Woodsey]

Just reading through media and social media and in all of this, I’ve never really believed the hype of us being a country in crisis. We aren’t rioting, unemployment is still going down, we’re still a very developed nation & the economy is fairly steady. We’re not in crisis.

Essentially we have gone backwards because the hatefulness & backward thinking folk got Brexit over the line. If Brexit does happen, we are of course going to go backwards even more, despite the progress before 2016. We’ve sat and seen ourselves as a country that isn’t racist and live off the world seeing us as polite old England, but the vote told us the opposite. The hateful agendas of those that got Brexit over the line is seeing us seen differently. Not that it matters.

What is more important is that nothing can really change from Brexit. People have warped minds if they think migration/immigration is going to stop, £39bn won’t be paid, it will be paid & if some of it isn’t, Will it all go to benefit us? Of course it won’t. The people that want our own laws, but yet we aren’t going to start changing laws to suit Dave from Barnsley, because they’re currently pretty fair.

A few years after we’re out & nothing will have really changed. Of course people will have lost jobs because Clive Voted Brexit because he doesn’t like black people. But who cares? We can still make our own laws.

But are we currently in crisis? Absolutely not.

Take it up with tighty 

[MANTIS01]

Aaron, not sure if you can play the piano but if you posted a video of urself singing Imagine by John Lennon it would be a strong message to offer this thread

[BigAdz]

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Osaka summit today

A stronger message would have been to refuse to shake his hand.

Makes us look bad as Brits.

Weak, pathetic handshake, pouting like a school kid that can't get what they want.

My initial response was to shake my head....at her.

[TightEnd]

Was Boris Johnson right when he told the BBC that MPs are now ready to back a no-deal Brexit?

Bloomberg ran the numbers.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-26/is-parliament-ready-to-back-a-no-deal-brexit-you-do-the-math

[TightEnd]

"What the UK has failed to appreciate - and it’s a political failure of both frontbenchers - is that that EU is absolutely fine with our decision to leave"

Interesting thread on https://twitter.com/lukemcgee/status/1144382865796472832

[TightEnd]

Why is no-one talking about the Brecon and Radnorshire by-election?

(this thread has been, its one of the more significant ones for a while with the govt majority so thin and the chance of remain fielding a single candidate)

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/why-is-no-one-talking-about-the-brecon-and-radnorshire-by-election-1-6131828

Chris Grey said overnight

"Not sure that 'no-one is talking' about it, but quite right to say that the outcome of this by-election could have a huge impact on what happens with Brexit and, therefore, the entire future of the UK. Can't think of a precedent for this ..."

[TightEnd]

EU agrees deal with South American trade bloc Mercosur - it took 20 years to negotiate

roll on 2039 for us...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48807161

[TightEnd]

and end on a more positive one

Interesting from Bruno Waterfield, who says the EU would be willing to offer Boris more flexibility than it offers May - if he plays ball

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/57ef6406-98e3-11e9-abb4-0b4b1e74d343

[kukushkin88]

Good article from Simon Kuper in the FT. Along the lines...how can BJ, Corbyn and Farage be in such positions of power.

It’s behind a paywall, I’ll try and post a picture of it.

[kukushkin88]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/5e4e0094-9796-11e9-9573-ee5cbb98ed36

[kukushkin88]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/5e4e0094-9796-11e9-9573-ee5cbb98ed36

I gave up on posting pics of it. The FT subscription really is worth the 💰.