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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #9075 on: June 01, 2017, 08:36:31 PM »


https://voteforpolicies.org.uk


if you are even slightly interested in your then you will probably end up looking at most aspects so it can take 15-20 minutes (their estimate seems to allow for very slow readers).

It does though seem to have a bias I would guess towards those with time on their hands + more tech savvy which is probably reflected in the low results for  Conservatives compared to the rest.
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It is interesting to see the results, I think the higher results for the liberal left might also be explained by most of the people doing quizes like this get to them via social media and I think it's already established that social media in general has a left leaning bias.
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« Reply #9076 on: June 01, 2017, 10:19:28 PM »

Apparently May has now refused to go on radio 4 womens hour. Also seen rumours that all the other representatives have agreed to regional press but May has again refused.

Something more going on, or just pure cowardice/over confidence thinking if she just doesn't say anything they'll win? I know her excuse is basically slagging everyone else off saying they're working on a brexit plan and Labour should be too, despite it being her who called a snap election.

Conspiracy theory - Tories want to lose so Labour deal with Brexit and get slammed by the nation, thus never winning an election again
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« Reply #9077 on: June 01, 2017, 10:22:56 PM »

Conspiracy theory - Tories want to lose so Labour deal with Brexit and get slammed by the nation, thus never winning an election again

If it means that the introduction of full on thought crime gets delayed, I'm all for that plan.
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« Reply #9078 on: June 01, 2017, 10:23:52 PM »

Further to what Arb says, May has looked a mess but she has also been given a pretty easy time. 

Look at Paxman other night he interrupted Corbyn about 8 times as often as he did May.  Neil also went far easier on her than he does on most.

what did you think of the "balanced" audience last night (chosen by comres by the bbc)? ever seen it more one way than that?

Isn't this due to the fact you have 7 speakers, 5 of which are leftish leaning?  So guess if you split the audience along party lines it will be more left leaning?
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« Reply #9079 on: June 01, 2017, 10:35:16 PM »

i am wondering with the May seemingly thorwing this election do you think its a secret pact with the remainers to stay in the EU.
After all May was in the remain camp. I can't think of any other reason the tories are running the worst campaign in my life voting lifetime.
Even if Corbyn doesnt stop us leaving the EU the tories can in future put down the deal we get from brexit at the hands of labour


Mel Gibson/Julia Roberts  anyone?
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« Reply #9080 on: June 01, 2017, 10:41:56 PM »

Apparently May has now refused to go on radio 4 womens hour. Also seen rumours that all the other representatives have agreed to regional press but May has again refused.

Something more going on, or just pure cowardice/over confidence thinking if she just doesn't say anything they'll win? I know her excuse is basically slagging everyone else off saying they're working on a brexit plan and Labour should be too, despite it being her who called a snap election.

Conspiracy theory - Tories want to lose so Labour deal with Brexit and get slammed by the nation, thus never winning an election again

It's just about control and avoiding risky situations and another disaster aka social care. Would have worked easily if the social care thing hadn't happened, will still most likely work but let's see....
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« Reply #9081 on: June 01, 2017, 10:55:59 PM »

Apparently May has now refused to go on radio 4 womens hour. Also seen rumours that all the other representatives have agreed to regional press but May has again refused.

Something more going on, or just pure cowardice/over confidence thinking if she just doesn't say anything they'll win? I know her excuse is basically slagging everyone else off saying they're working on a brexit plan and Labour should be too, despite it being her who called a snap election.

Conspiracy theory - Tories want to lose so Labour deal with Brexit and get slammed by the nation, thus never winning an election again

It's just about control and avoiding risky situations and another disaster aka social care. Would have worked easily if the social care thing hadn't happened, will still most likely work but let's see....

She's doing Question Time tomorrow night.....presume she doesn't want to do two  set interviews in one day...spread the work around ?
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« Reply #9082 on: June 01, 2017, 11:00:20 PM »

Apparently May has now refused to go on radio 4 womens hour. Also seen rumours that all the other representatives have agreed to regional press but May has again refused.

Something more going on, or just pure cowardice/over confidence thinking if she just doesn't say anything they'll win? I know her excuse is basically slagging everyone else off saying they're working on a brexit plan and Labour should be too, despite it being her who called a snap election.

Conspiracy theory - Tories want to lose so Labour deal with Brexit and get slammed by the nation, thus never winning an election again

It's just about control and avoiding risky situations and another disaster aka social care. Would have worked easily if the social care thing hadn't happened, will still most likely work but let's see....

She's doing Question Time tomorrow night.....presume she doesn't want to do two  set interviews in one day...spread the work around ?

Ok didn't know that, you are probably right, maybe she (ok.....her team) just wants her to do the high profile shows that avoid full on debate and she can spout her soundbytes?
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« Reply #9083 on: June 02, 2017, 08:20:37 AM »

Osborne's editorial on the Lib Dems' failure in yesterday's Standard

http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/evening-standard-comment-the-liberal-democrats-offer-no-serious-vision-a3553346.html

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« Reply #9084 on: June 02, 2017, 08:21:25 AM »

interesting

Of the 76 seats where 18-24s outnumber over 65s, Labour already hold 57. The top two are Cambridge and Leeds NW.
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« Reply #9085 on: June 02, 2017, 08:22:23 AM »

Why the Tory campaign has gone so badly. By george eaton

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/june2017/2017/06/whats-gone-wrong-conservative-campaign
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« Reply #9086 on: June 02, 2017, 08:23:07 AM »

we can have a strong economy and cut immigration?

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« Reply #9087 on: June 02, 2017, 08:23:44 AM »

research in swing seats shows 'normal' people don't follow politics closely, whatever the polls suggest http://bit.ly/2qG1wZy

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« Reply #9088 on: June 02, 2017, 08:25:03 AM »

this is very good and probably very important to the outcome

"Labour's reliance on non-voters

Polls which show Labour up also show the party relying heavily on non-voters and voters of other smaller parties"

https://medium.com/@chrishanretty/labours-reliance-on-non-voters-9f88c516310a
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« Reply #9089 on: June 02, 2017, 08:26:16 AM »

Election victory for Labour is plausible - but not likely, writes stephen b

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/june2017/2017/06/its-clear-jeremy-corbyn-has-tapped-something
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