The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[Jon MW]

Income tax liability by income


I know it's only one tax but I thought it was pretty interesting.

Comes from this article

[Doobs]

Income tax liability by income


I know it's only one tax but I thought it was pretty interesting.

Comes from this article

I can't read the article, but isn't a lot of that inflation?

[Doobs]

Enjoyed this

[TightEnd]

FT reporting that the PM has backed down on "red card" and tax credits, but an "emergency break" is possible

william hill had 5/4 a 2016 referendum up yesterday. need to check if it still is!

[AdamM]

Don't like Rees Mogg, but he nailed him there. Well played.

[RED-DOG]

My only experience of Rees Mogg is on HIGNFY and I quite liked him then.

PS- To avoid confusion, he was on it, I wasn't.

[DaveShoelace]

Reminded me of this

[Longines]

I can't read the article, but isn't a lot of that inflation?

I'm probably missing the point but the graph shows effective income tax % at each salary level so inflation is irrelevant.

The fun one is going from £100,000 to £120,000 - you pay 60% income tax on that £20,000.

[Doobs]

I can't read the article, but isn't a lot of that inflation?

I'm probably missing the point but the graph shows effective income tax % at each salary level so inflation is irrelevant.

The fun one is going from £100,000 to £120,000 - you pay 60% income tax on that £20,000.

£15000 in 1991 is the same as £30000 now if you don't adjust for inflation.  So saying someone is taxed at x% now at 30k when they taxed at y% on 30k in 1991 would be a dumb comparison.  They should be comparing 1991 tax rates on 15k vs 2015 tax rates on 30k.

[TightEnd]

Corbyn regarded more unfavourably than Farage – Opinium, Observer

[DaveShoelace]

Corbyn regarded more unfavourably than Farage – Opinium, Observer

Is that amongst Observer readers, or is each poll taken within the supporters of the relevant party ie. Labour supporters saying Corbyn is unfavourable etc?

[TightEnd]

amongst an opinion poll by opinium from a panel across parties. poll bought by the observer so not observer readers

[kukushkin88]

While most of these polls are laughably inaccurate and this one will be no different, it was of some interest, Cameron's embarrassing trip to Europe, Shapps claiming responsibility for the death of that young man and the Lord's stepping in to halt Osborne's attack on the poor. At least some people out there might be noticing. Conservative lead down to 4 points.

http://www.comres.co.uk/polls/daily-mail-december-political-poll/

It's not a link to the Daily Mail.

[kukushkin88]

I'm warming to this idea. Old people aren't affected, by and large, by employment policies, mortgages, interest rates, crime (most victims are young, not old). Things like the environment, foreign relations and defence don't matter to them, cos they're going to die soon anyway. The only issues that affect them are things like healthcare, social care and pensions, ie things that the Tories are forever cutting. Yet they go and vote overwhelmingly for the Tories. As they clearly vote for the wrong people, there is a case for not having a vote after you retire.

Clearly   That's funny mate, thanks for the good belly laugh.

I clearly need to borrow some smilies from you so it's more obvious if a post isn't meant to be serious.

Well based on some of the other stuff written on here today it actually isn't that clear tbh.....I know you socialists are desperate to get in, so I wouldn't be surprised if a few of you are serious, desperation calls for desperate measures.

I think you're in a minority of one in thinking that was serious Woodsey.

Maybe, but if you only read this thread you would also wonder how the fk labour doesn't have a massive majority government....

There is widespread support for a leader who openly places principles and integrity over his electability. That doesn't sound like a group of people who are desperate for power.

[Woodsey]

I'm warming to this idea. Old people aren't affected, by and large, by employment policies, mortgages, interest rates, crime (most victims are young, not old). Things like the environment, foreign relations and defence don't matter to them, cos they're going to die soon anyway. The only issues that affect them are things like healthcare, social care and pensions, ie things that the Tories are forever cutting. Yet they go and vote overwhelmingly for the Tories. As they clearly vote for the wrong people, there is a case for not having a vote after you retire.

Clearly   That's funny mate, thanks for the good belly laugh.

I clearly need to borrow some smilies from you so it's more obvious if a post isn't meant to be serious.

Well based on some of the other stuff written on here today it actually isn't that clear tbh.....I know you socialists are desperate to get in, so I wouldn't be surprised if a few of you are serious, desperation calls for desperate measures.

I think you're in a minority of one in thinking that was serious Woodsey.

Maybe, but if you only read this thread you would also wonder how the fk labour doesn't have a massive majority government....

There is widespread support for a leader who openly places principles and integrity over his electability. That doesn't sound like a group of people who are desperate for power.

No problem, suits me if he isn't electable...