The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[JohnCharver]

Why can't the Remain voters just accept the result?
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IF they had won Cameron would have been gloating about how fantastic he had been (I am a Comservative voter) and there would been none of this talk of 2nd referendum.

Accept the fact and do what Britain does best, unite and get on with it and show what a GREAT country we are.

I do personally. The petitition is over 2m now. A Amor beef appears to be the farage nhs u turn and the hannan "immigration isn't going to fall" newsnight appearance so the argument goes the vote was taken on the basis of a fraudulent campaign

Whens osbornes emergency budget?

well that was floated and quite clearly a non runner. Pretty terrible idea to suggest it, people didn't care about the economics and hated the implied threat.

Any less a lie than the one farage told? In reality osborne could do an emergency budget but farage was never going to control the money we dont send to brussels. My point was theres no justification for a new vote. Any MP that suggests they veto our vote should be sacked on the spot as they have no place representing the people.

I have no time for both Cameron and Osborne but Cameron has come out of this way better than osborne who seems to think he can just continue and noone will notice.

[taximan007]

I guess my point is IF Remain had won it would have been a case of fuck you Leave voters and stop your crying and whinging (if there was any) but because they lost all the toys are coming out the pram.

FWIW I did vote by post and I voted remain, not that I honestly believe the result either way will really effect me as I don't see myself living in England again (never say never though ). 

[MintTrav]

I have no time for both Cameron and Osborne but Cameron has come out of this way better than osborne who seems to think he can just continue and noone will notice.

I kind of felt like that as well. His public appearances backfired pretty badly.

Read elsewhere, though, that he was one of the few senior Tories who tried to persuade Cameron not to go down this road and then, effectively, sacrificed his career to try to save Cameron. Not sure I buy it, but there's more to it than Osborne being Osborne.

He has to carry on til a new leader picks a new Chancellor, doesn't he?

[Marky_Crash]

My neighbour had some garden slabs stolen last night, pretty sure that would not have happened if we had voted to stay in the EU! The anarchy begins...

[PokerBroker]

Why can't the Remain voters just accept the result?
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IF they had won Cameron would have been gloating about how fantastic he had been (I am a Comservative voter) and there would been none of this talk of 2nd referendum.

Accept the fact and do what Britain does best, unite and get on with it and show what a GREAT country we are.

I do personally. The petitition is over 2m now. A Amor beef appears to be the farage nhs u turn and the hannan "immigration isn't going to fall" newsnight appearance so the argument goes the vote was taken on the basis of a fraudulent campaign

Aha, all campaigns in that case are fraudulent, none moreso than the Scottish indyref.  

[JohnCharver]

I have no time for both Cameron and Osborne but Cameron has come out of this way better than osborne who seems to think he can just continue and noone will notice.

I kind of felt like that as well. His public appearances backfired pretty badly.

Read elsewhere, though, that he was one of the few senior Tories who tried to persuade Cameron not to go down this road and then, effectively, sacrificed his career to try to save Cameron. Not sure I buy it, but there's more to it than Osborne being Osborne.

He has to carry on til a new leader picks a new Chancellor, doesn't he?

Osborne to me fancied himself as next leader and knew his big rival was boris so threw everything at scaring the public into staying. He has no place in discussing something he has clear bias against, if something has basically earned you the sack would you be just itching to do a good job or would you want it to end in disaster. I dont mind him getting on with his job in the mean time, just he doesnt seem to have acknowledged his part in the remain rhetoric has left his position impossible. Hes basically steve mclaren.

[arbboy]

https://twitter.com/jamesaknight

Go down to see the channel 4 clip on here about a donk from Barnsley explaining why he voted leave!  Comical.  Not sure how to inbed these clips onto blonde.  IF someone can do it for me cheers.

[RED-DOG]

So is it actually possible that they could find an excuse to hold a second referendum and if so, what might it be?

[TightEnd]

Interesting. It emerges that the Scottish parliament might be required to give permission for brexit

[nirvana]

Why can't the Remain voters just accept the result?
T
IF they had won Cameron would have been gloating about how fantastic he had been (I am a Comservative voter) and there would been none of this talk of 2nd referendum.

Accept the fact and do what Britain does best, unite and get on with it and show what a GREAT country we are.

I do personally. The petitition is over 2m now. A Amor beef appears to be the farage nhs u turn and the hannan "immigration isn't going to fall" newsnight appearance so the argument goes the vote was taken on the basis of a fraudulent campaign

I know you don't think along the lines above but it is all quite mad  - surely people are clever enough to realise that a campaign which was non partisan can't make budget promises and that a points system doesn't mean immigration will definitely fall. Gonna run and run in the worse case scenarion

[TightEnd]

So is it actually possible that they could find an excuse to hold a second referendum and if so, what might it be?

highly unlikely but the referendum is a non binding recommendation. Can be overridden by parliamentary vote or a legal challenge but see no grounds for a legal challenge . The consequences of that for democracy would be severe though . I could see terrible implications from it, surely there would be a revolt against it from the 52%

[Woodsey]

Why can't the Remain voters just accept the result?

IF they had won Cameron would have been gloating about how fantastic he had been (I am a Comservative voter) and there would been none of this talk of 2nd referendum.

Accept the fact and do what Britain does best, unite and get on with it and show what a GREAT country we are.

This....

I hope all the bitterness and bitching everywhere pipes down soon, we ARE a GREAT country and we can make it happen if we all just get on with it and make it a success. I know I'll be doing my bit.

[JohnCharver]

Interesting. It emerges that the Scottish parliament might be required to give permission for brexit

Shouldnt this be like when the queen signs laws? Wouldnt not signing it be the final nail in the leave campaign for scotland as if they leave they now know what they will immediately face?

[aaron1867]

https://twitter.com/jamesaknight

Go down to see the channel 4 clip on here about a donk from Barnsley explaining why he voted leave!  Comical.  Not sure how to inbed these clips onto blonde.  IF someone can do it for me cheers.

Saw it earlier. It's not surprise. Barnsley is a hugely racist town with a small black and European population.

[George2Loose]

There was bound to be some fallout.

I voted in but fully accept the result. For me, having studied politics seeing this level of engagement and the turnout is a huge thing even if it meant we are out. I hope this will kick start some interest in politics altho speaking to some it's crazy how little people know about our political system.