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« Reply #9135 on: June 02, 2017, 06:27:08 PM »

Wherever we are in a week's time, this is one of the most extraordinary moves over the course of an election campaign, we have seen:

leader ratings NEVER change like this in a campaign,until now

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Of all the blunders she made in calling this election, allowing Corbyn an unfiltered interface wiith the public on a massive scale might be the biggest. Everybody has realised they were being lied to and misled. Interesting week ahead.
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« Reply #9136 on: June 02, 2017, 08:13:31 PM »

Just watched yesterdays QT, thought everyone did pretty well

I thought it was a shame that nobody picked up David Davis on a pretty big contradiction.

One one hand the key to getting a good deal from Brexit is to 'believe in Britain' and on the other if Labour put corporation tax back to 2010 levels then businesses will all up sticks and move. Tough to square those two.

Mays campaign has been a such a piss take. I would never have voted Corbyn 6 months ago but def will now, not that it matters much here in Sheffield Central. There will be parties in the street if we manage to fade a Tory majority but I reckon they'll get there

It'll be interesting to see if Corbyn manages to really connect with younger voters. Prospects for jobs and housing for young people have never been more bleak. If this doesn't get them to the polling booth I don't know what will and they'll be deserving of whatever shit sandwich the tories send through the hatch.
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« Reply #9137 on: June 02, 2017, 08:44:09 PM »

Just watched yesterdays QT, thought everyone did pretty well

I thought it was a shame that nobody picked up David Davis on a pretty big contradiction.

One one hand the key to getting a good deal from Brexit is to 'believe in Britain' and on the other if Labour put corporation tax back to 2010 levels then businesses will all up sticks and move. Tough to square those two.


Move to where? The rate will still be lower than it was in 2010. It's not that businesses have suddenly moved here, is it? In the US the rate is 40%

https://home.kpmg.com/xx/en/home/services/tax/tax-tools-and-resources/tax-rates-online/corporate-tax-rates-table.html
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« Reply #9138 on: June 02, 2017, 09:00:36 PM »

Is anyone else watching May feeling like this is painfully awkward?
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« Reply #9139 on: June 02, 2017, 09:05:19 PM »

Is anyone else watching May feeling like this is painfully awkward?

No I think she's doing ok actually.....
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« Reply #9140 on: June 02, 2017, 09:05:37 PM »

Is anyone else watching May feeling like this is painfully awkward?

Not sure she's answered a question yet. But she did expertly dodge the second part of a question which regarded "letting off the rich" earlier which obviously got skimmed over.

Unfortunately I think she is doing ok too. She knows what to do in set pieces.

Corbyn doing a wonderful job at avoiding questions too. Ah politics.
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« Reply #9141 on: June 02, 2017, 09:18:48 PM »

Just watched yesterdays QT, thought everyone did pretty well

I thought it was a shame that nobody picked up David Davis on a pretty big contradiction.

One one hand the key to getting a good deal from Brexit is to 'believe in Britain' and on the other if Labour put corporation tax back to 2010 levels then businesses will all up sticks and move. Tough to square those two.


Move to where? The rate will still be lower than it was in 2010. It's not that businesses have suddenly moved here, is it? In the US the rate is 40%

https://home.kpmg.com/xx/en/home/services/tax/tax-tools-and-resources/tax-rates-online/corporate-tax-rates-table.html

Haha I absolutely butchered the wording of that sentence

I meant that he's telling everyone that it'll all be fine if we show a bit of bulldog spirit and get behind the cause on Brexit yet 10 minutes later he's all doom and gloom telling us that our economy is fragile enough that a return to 2010 corporation tax levels will have firms running for the exit.



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« Reply #9142 on: June 02, 2017, 09:34:59 PM »

TM was strong on Brexit, little bit weak on social care and foreign aide.

Solid performance overall not spectactular, she is no Dave for sure.





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« Reply #9143 on: June 02, 2017, 09:41:40 PM »

Apparently Corbyns reluctance to murder millions of people makes him weak.
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« Reply #9144 on: June 02, 2017, 09:41:49 PM »

Corbyn finally pinned down on nukes. All over the shop on defence and security, didn't  even reply to the last audience question on it. Was on steady ground until that issue
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« Reply #9145 on: June 02, 2017, 09:46:50 PM »

Apparently Corbyns reluctance to murder millions of people makes him weak.

That's a gross misrepresentation of the question he was asked.

Corbyn has the ridiculous position of having a deterrent that isn't a deterrent because he won't use it.

Nuts.
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« Reply #9146 on: June 02, 2017, 09:53:51 PM »

Finally, he's getting done over here. Against the good Friday agreement at the time, he salutes it tonight! Hamas too, a lie I think that he didn't support them
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« Reply #9147 on: June 02, 2017, 09:54:15 PM »

Apparently Corbyns reluctance to murder millions of people makes him weak.

It depends how the question is asked, If you flip it to would he defend us at all costs then his avoidance of definitive answer is a chink in his armour to those that see it as important to know.
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« Reply #9148 on: June 02, 2017, 09:56:40 PM »

Mind you some of this audience is very right wing. Global Armageddon is appealing to some it seems lol
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« Reply #9149 on: June 02, 2017, 10:00:44 PM »

That's a fair point. A deterrent isn't a deterrent if there's no threat to use it. But didn't the audience seem a little blood thirsty?

North Korean nukes won't reach our shores. I personally don't believe that there will ever be another nuclear strike. Especially not from North Korea, they're run by a moron, but all they do is for show. That may not matter in terms of the answers given tonight. Didn't go well for Corbyn in general terms

I dunno. I just don't see how his desire for peaceful talks rather than murder is seen as a bad thing
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