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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 56

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« Reply #9930 on: June 10, 2017, 10:53:33 PM »

Gavin Barwell ousted in election and parachutes straight back in as Chief of Staff a slap in the face to voters. 

Really annoyed because Barwell came across a centrist comptent person to me when I heard him speak 2 weeks ago. Looks like he is as career politician, happy to get behind any old crap. Glad I was one of the 5000 who get rid of him in Croydon.
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« Reply #9931 on: June 10, 2017, 11:03:11 PM »

Thought this was very good Smiley


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And there came from the land of Britain a prophet, whose name was Jeremy. And he cried aloud in the wilderness, and said, Behold, I bring you hope.


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« Reply #9932 on: June 10, 2017, 11:04:32 PM »

They are already at it. 

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« Reply #9933 on: June 11, 2017, 01:55:57 PM »


Does anyone know what happens if the 1922 committee tells May to gtf and she resigns?  In particular, can someone step up as temporary leader until a contest, or does she stay on as leader until after the contest (and therefore Prime Minister)?
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« Reply #9934 on: June 11, 2017, 02:17:52 PM »


Does anyone know what happens if the 1922 committee tells May to gtf and she resigns?  In particular, can someone step up as temporary leader until a contest, or doses she stay on as leader until after the contest (and therefore Prime Minister)?


Same as Cameron resigning I presume.......stays on till another Tory leader in place to take over.

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« Reply #9935 on: June 11, 2017, 03:52:07 PM »

The DUP seem very dated and its sad that NI are still voting down these lines of religion with what seems little choice of parties than before. I think they have some similar held views to a section of the tory party and concerning they bring this kind of stuff to the front, when cameron, osborne etc had really brought the tory party forward. They have every right to form a government together. directly or indirectly, they were democratically elected and dictating to NI that we think their representatives are unworthy, or worse worthy of derision doesnt help with NI tensions either.

Id like May to regain a semblance of respect and say they will use them to get us into a position where the country can continue on a steady footing in preparation for elections in october. Then quit.
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« Reply #9936 on: June 11, 2017, 05:43:36 PM »

The DUP seem very dated and its sad that NI are still voting down these lines of religion with what seems little choice of parties than before. I think they have some similar held views to a section of the tory party and concerning they bring this kind of stuff to the front, when cameron, osborne etc had really brought the tory party forward. They have every right to form a government together. directly or indirectly, they were democratically elected and dictating to NI that we think their representatives are unworthy, or worse worthy of derision doesnt help with NI tensions either.

Id like May to regain a semblance of respect and say they will use them to get us into a position where the country can continue on a steady footing in preparation for elections in october. Then quit.

They're not forming a government, it'll be a lot messier than that. The last paragraph isn't looking great. The "semblance of respect" ship has well and truly sailed. As for "continue on a steady footing", I don't really know what to say. We agree about quitting though and the timing seems about right too.
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« Reply #9937 on: June 11, 2017, 05:44:12 PM »

The DUP seem very dated and its sad that NI are still voting down these lines of religion with what seems little choice of parties than before. I think they have some similar held views to a section of the tory party and concerning they bring this kind of stuff to the front, when cameron, osborne etc had really brought the tory party forward. They have every right to form a government together. directly or indirectly, they were democratically elected and dictating to NI that we think their representatives are unworthy, or worse worthy of derision doesnt help with NI tensions either.

Id like May to regain a semblance of respect and say they will use them to get us into a position where the country can continue on a steady footing in preparation for elections in october. Then quit.

For Government to operate a deal has to be done....their views on some controversial matters wont come into it, not that it would have, but Ruth has confirmed that!

It gives a working majority of 13. Cameron had a majority of 12 in 2015.

Think she will last longer than most people think, maybe upto brexit 2019, because a change of leader surely means an election.
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« Reply #9938 on: June 11, 2017, 06:00:46 PM »

 
The DUP seem very dated and its sad that NI are still voting down these lines of religion with what seems little choice of parties than before. I think they have some similar held views to a section of the tory party and concerning they bring this kind of stuff to the front, when cameron, osborne etc had really brought the tory party forward. They have every right to form a government together. directly or indirectly, they were democratically elected and dictating to NI that we think their representatives are unworthy, or worse worthy of derision doesnt help with NI tensions either.

Id like May to regain a semblance of respect and say they will use them to get us into a position where the country can continue on a steady footing in preparation for elections in october. Then quit.

For Government to operate a deal has to be done....their views on some controversial matters wont come into it, not that it would have, but Ruth has confirmed that!

It gives a working majority of 13. Cameron had a majority of 12 in 2015.

Think she will last longer than most people think, maybe upto brexit 2019, because a change of leader surely means an election.


She made the biggest misjudgement in modern British political history, only Brexit could conceivably be worse. I've always thought it meaningless when people talk about something or someone being Prime Ministerial but TM has helped me understand a little better what it is to not be Prime Ministerial. Crying yourself to sleep over a mess all of your own doing is not very Prime Ministerial. It's totally meaningless to compare her minority government with DC's majority.
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« Reply #9939 on: June 11, 2017, 06:32:14 PM »

Can't keep him away;

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« Reply #9940 on: June 11, 2017, 06:43:48 PM »

The DUP seem very dated and its sad that NI are still voting down these lines of religion with what seems little choice of parties than before. I think they have some similar held views to a section of the tory party and concerning they bring this kind of stuff to the front, when cameron, osborne etc had really brought the tory party forward. They have every right to form a government together. directly or indirectly, they were democratically elected and dictating to NI that we think their representatives are unworthy, or worse worthy of derision doesnt help with NI tensions either.

Id like May to regain a semblance of respect and say they will use them to get us into a position where the country can continue on a steady footing in preparation for elections in october. Then quit.

For Government to operate a deal has to be done....their views on some controversial matters wont come into it, not that it would have, but Ruth has confirmed that!

It gives a working majority of 13. Cameron had a majority of 12 in 2015.

Think she will last longer than most people think, maybe upto brexit 2019, because a change of leader surely means an election.


She made the biggest misjudgement in modern British political history, only Brexit could conceivably be worse. I've always thought it meaningless when people talk about something or someone being Prime Ministerial but TM has helped me understand a little better what it is to not be Prime Ministerial. Crying yourself to sleep over a mess all of your own doing is not very Prime Ministerial. It's totally meaningless to compare her minority government with DC's majority.

Of course its a mess now, but a Government has to be formed and move forward . We will see a softening stance on a lot of things to get the Queens speech though.
 We are stuck will TM for now,so it's up to her to step up to the Brexit plate and show how good she is as a dead women walking.
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« Reply #9941 on: June 11, 2017, 08:04:53 PM »

Love this picture of two fellas finally united by their love of Theresa

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« Reply #9942 on: June 11, 2017, 09:40:18 PM »

This is the FT breakdown of the data  from the election (well exit polls, or each constituency)

https://www.ft.com/content/dac3a3b2-4ad7-11e7-919a-1e14ce4af89b

It was those crazy kids wot did it.

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« Reply #9943 on: June 12, 2017, 12:36:19 AM »

Nothing new, many change their minds when they start to earn a few quid. I'd vote for the communist party if I was 18 and I was promised free uni compared to £30k+ debt.....
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« Reply #9944 on: June 12, 2017, 12:53:08 AM »

Nothing new, many change their minds when they start to earn a few quid. I'd vote for the communist party if I was 18 and I was promised free uni compared to £30k+ debt.....

Thank you for your efforts, good people will always be repulsed by the ignorance. Education will defeat all forms of bigotry, including Conservatism.
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