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« Reply #14790 on: October 23, 2018, 03:55:33 PM »

Only when MPs stare into the abyss will they agree to a People’s Vote

Total parliamentary deadlock, with rejections of both Theresa May’s deal and a no-deal, is the likeliest route to another referendum

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/21/only-when-mps-stare-into-the-abyss-will-they-agree-to-a-peoples-vote
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« Reply #14791 on: October 23, 2018, 03:56:15 PM »

Brexit is like a Premier League side wanting to be relegated | William Keegan

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/oct/21/brexit-premier-league-side-wanting-to-be-relegated-wto-internal-market
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« Reply #14792 on: October 23, 2018, 05:22:00 PM »

“UK is currently demonstrating how a country can make a fool of itself before the eyes of the entire world. What was once the most powerful empire on earth is now a country that can't even find its way to the door without tripping over its own feet.”

Wince.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/brexit-talks-watching-a-country-make-a-fool-of-itself-a-1234143.html

Lol Tighty. Thanks for posting the thoughts of a random German who clearly has an axe to grind with the "arrogant" attiude of British people.

Kinda racialist imo.

He proceeds to speak on behalf of the whole world. Which is clearly not an arrogant thing to do at all.
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« Reply #14793 on: October 23, 2018, 05:27:29 PM »

“UK is currently demonstrating how a country can make a fool of itself before the eyes of the entire world. What was once the most powerful empire on earth is now a country that can't even find its way to the door without tripping over its own feet.”

Wince.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/brexit-talks-watching-a-country-make-a-fool-of-itself-a-1234143.html

Lol Tighty. Thanks for posting the thoughts of a random German who clearly has an axe to grind with the "arrogant" attiude of British people.

Kinda racialist imo.

He proceeds to speak on behalf of the whole world. Which is clearly not an arrogant thing to do at all.


i post a lot of links. you are welcome to post whatever links you wish, but choose not to instead dealing in generalities

this is a serious German magazine, and i thought it was interesting to see that perspective

cut the trolling please.

edit Der Spiegel is a German weekly news magazine published in Hamburg. With a weekly circulation of 840,000 copies, it is the largest such publication in Europe
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« Reply #14794 on: October 23, 2018, 05:31:24 PM »

Lol mate, you put up a quote saying our country is making a fool of itself before the whole world and you ask me to stop trolling.
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« Reply #14795 on: October 23, 2018, 05:48:27 PM »

Lol mate, you put up a quote saying our country is making a fool of itself before the whole world and you ask me to stop trolling.

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« Reply #14796 on: October 23, 2018, 05:48:31 PM »

It's a quote from an article written by a journalist in Der Spiegel.

Disagree with it if you like but it's not trolling is it?
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« Reply #14797 on: October 23, 2018, 05:52:06 PM »

Lol mate, you put up a quote saying our country is making a fool of itself before the whole world and you ask me to stop trolling.

Indeed. The "fair" balance of opinions posted by Tighty today, could in itself be argued to be trolling.

I prefer to call it posting opinions that back up my own, as trolling is really for children....
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« Reply #14798 on: October 23, 2018, 05:53:18 PM »

the journalist you quote has form. Previously compared Italians to the cowardly captain of the Costa Concordia. The Italian ambassador and press called his remarks "vulgar and banal" with a "racist tone". Clearly hasn't learnt his lesson. Oh and he's divorced as well, funny, I can't make my own relationship work but everybody else should make their relationships work or I brand them all fools.

Link doesn't have wizard stats or pie charts just a German branded a racist personally hating on Britain. Challenging that is just about the opposite of trolling. But no matter, I will find some nice German quotes about Britain for balance.   
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« Reply #14799 on: October 23, 2018, 06:03:01 PM »

Lol mate, you put up a quote saying our country is making a fool of itself before the whole world and you ask me to stop trolling.

Indeed. The "fair" balance of opinions posted by Tighty today, could in itself be argued to be trolling.

I prefer to call it posting opinions that back up my own, as trolling is really for children....

I post the articles that I find and think are relevant or interesting. I do not find many that are pro Brexit. This may be because my echo chambers do not out those articles in front of me. It may be that there aren't many of these articles. Or a combination of both.

Rather than whinging that I am unbalanced you can of course put your own links up that you find relevant or interesting.

As of now, I am out. Leave you and your ilk to it on here. (spits dummy out)
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« Reply #14800 on: October 23, 2018, 06:11:30 PM »

Interesting quote from JC Junker in this Der Spiegel rag...

"Regarding the consequences of Brexit, I have said that a DESERTER would not be welcomed with open arms. That is the stance of the commission as well as the attitude of other governments"

Imagine that?!? We are likened to somebody who should be shot for being a coward. Real nice EU attitude there.

Do think Remain need to get a grip. Anybody that doesn't agree gets lambasted and told to fuck off. If still don't agree flounce off. Very sorry for challenging the "our country is making a fool of itself in front of the whole world" remark, no offence intended.
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« Reply #14801 on: October 23, 2018, 08:07:10 PM »

the journalist you quote has form. Previously compared Italians to the cowardly captain of the Costa Concordia. The Italian ambassador and press called his remarks "vulgar and banal" with a "racist tone". Clearly hasn't learnt his lesson. Oh and he's divorced as well, funny, I can't make my own relationship work but everybody else should make their relationships work or I brand them all fools.

Link doesn't have wizard stats or pie charts just a German branded a racist personally hating on Britain. Challenging that is just about the opposite of trolling. But no matter, I will find some nice German quotes about Britain for balance.   

Given up pretending that you’re trying to put forward a sensible argument?
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« Reply #14802 on: October 23, 2018, 08:19:06 PM »

Interesting quote from JC Junker in this Der Spiegel rag...

"Regarding the consequences of Brexit, I have said that a DESERTER would not be welcomed with open arms. That is the stance of the commission as well as the attitude of other governments"

Imagine that?!? We are likened to somebody who should be shot for being a coward. Real nice EU attitude there.

Do think Remain need to get a grip. Anybody that doesn't agree gets lambasted and told to fuck off. If still don't agree flounce off. Very sorry for challenging the "our country is making a fool of itself in front of the whole world" remark, no offence intended.

You are not improving the image of Brexiters.
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« Reply #14803 on: October 23, 2018, 09:43:45 PM »

If Mantis had led the leave campaign we wouldn't be in this mess.
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« Reply #14804 on: October 23, 2018, 09:50:06 PM »

If Mantis had led the leave campaign we wouldn't be in this mess.

True, leave would have smashed it with a big majority, leaving no doubt...... 
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