COVID19

[booder]

Surprised Fellaini has caught it, when he has been greeting people with his elbows for years.

Deserves more love.

Made me lol

[DungBeetle]

It's somewhat amusing to see folk who didn't chose not to vote Labour because of Corbyn beg for a socialist Britain. Even amusing to see those Pub and Club owners who told us how prices would go down because of leaving the EU, see their business go to the wall.

Weirdly, Boris hasn't deal with this all as bad as I thought he would. But the problem is that he's always a couple of days beind with the measures the government announce and they really should some sort of higher allowance for self employed. But the self employed can't have their cake and eat it, but £94 isn't acceptable for anyone to live on.

But the grants and loans system is open to abuse, sadly.

PS - It's time for total shutdown (apart from the supermarkets).

Why would businesses going bust be amusing?

Those who do wrong things.

Wrong things as in not voting Labour?   What a strange outlook you have.   Still have a good laugh about people losing their livelihood.

[StuartHopkin]

For anyone who is interested in this from a business point of view, still no news on how to actually access the Business Interruption Loan's promised by the Government.

It is all good making these announcements, but if the actual money isn't available soon it is going to be too late for some companies.

Gets released on Monday

Still no news on this, and you best not furlough anyone..... as it doesn't exist in UK Law.

 

[kukushkin88]

For anyone who is interested in this from a business point of view, still no news on how to actually access the Business Interruption Loan's promised by the Government.

It is all good making these announcements, but if the actual money isn't available soon it is going to be too late for some companies.

Gets released on Monday

Still no news on this, and you best not furlough anyone..... as it doesn't exist in UK Law.

Good luck getting this resolved. I understand legal action will soon be instigated directly applicable to people in your situation, it might lead to something actually being done rather than impressive sounding talk 🤞

[Doobs]

For anyone who is interested in this from a business point of view, still no news on how to actually access the Business Interruption Loan's promised by the Government.

It is all good making these announcements, but if the actual money isn't available soon it is going to be too late for some companies.

Gets released on Monday

Still no news on this, and you best not furlough anyone..... as it doesn't exist in UK Law.

Good luck getting this resolved. I understand legal action will soon be instigated directly applicable to people in your situation, it might lead to something actually being done rather than impressive sounding talk 🤞

.. but aren't we having real issues keeping courts open right now?  Don't we give them until the end of Monday at least?  Surely these things can't be banged out in 5 minutes, and if they are there are going to be gaps/mistakes?

 

[kukushkin88]

For anyone who is interested in this from a business point of view, still no news on how to actually access the Business Interruption Loan's promised by the Government.

It is all good making these announcements, but if the actual money isn't available soon it is going to be too late for some companies.

Gets released on Monday

Still no news on this, and you best not furlough anyone..... as it doesn't exist in UK Law.

Good luck getting this resolved. I understand legal action will soon be instigated directly applicable to people in your situation, it might lead to something actually being done rather than impressive sounding talk 🤞

.. but aren't we having real issues keeping courts open right now?  Don't we give them until the end of Monday at least?  Surely these things can't be banged out in 5 minutes, and if they are there are going to be gaps/mistakes?
 

I can see both sides of it and I wouldn’t doubt it’s more sabre rattling than anything which of course in itself if questionable atm. Business owners are desperate though and the government should be held to their own deadlines/commitments, if you can’t do it, don’t say it. Anything that promotes action on this has some upside imo.

[Pokerpops]

For anyone who is interested in this from a business point of view, still no news on how to actually access the Business Interruption Loan's promised by the Government.

It is all good making these announcements, but if the actual money isn't available soon it is going to be too late for some companies.

Gets released on Monday

Still no news on this, and you best not furlough anyone..... as it doesn't exist in UK Law.

Good luck getting this resolved. I understand legal action will soon be instigated directly applicable to people in your situation, it might lead to something actually being done rather than impressive sounding talk 🤞

.. but aren't we having real issues keeping courts open right now?  Don't we give them until the end of Monday at least?  Surely these things can't be banged out in 5 minutes, and if they are there are going to be gaps/mistakes?
 

I can see both sides of it and I wouldn’t doubt it’s more sabre rattling than anything which of course in itself if questionable atm. Business owners are desperate though and the government should be held to their own deadlines/commitments, if you can’t do it, don’t say it. Anything that promotes action on this has some upside imo.

I don’t think you can see both sides of any argument.

The measures on SSP and on wage subsidy that have been introduced are substantial and far-reaching. It has to take time to establish a framework for approving applications and paying out money. Announcing it as soon as you have committed to it makes people feel better about the overall situation. Waiting the extra days till it is fully embedded loses that factor.

The loans, business rates and tax deferral schemes are all in place.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-to-employers-and-businesses-about-covid-19/covid-19-support-for-businesses#support-for-businesses-through-the-coronavirus-business-interruption-loan-scheme

[StuartHopkin]

For anyone who is interested in this from a business point of view, still no news on how to actually access the Business Interruption Loan's promised by the Government.

It is all good making these announcements, but if the actual money isn't available soon it is going to be too late for some companies.

Gets released on Monday

Still no news on this, and you best not furlough anyone..... as it doesn't exist in UK Law.

Good luck getting this resolved. I understand legal action will soon be instigated directly applicable to people in your situation, it might lead to something actually being done rather than impressive sounding talk 🤞

.. but aren't we having real issues keeping courts open right now?  Don't we give them until the end of Monday at least?  Surely these things can't be banged out in 5 minutes, and if they are there are going to be gaps/mistakes?

 

I understand that these things take time.
I just think they could be a little more transparent with the operational side of these things.

I have to talk to 90 people at 2pm who all think that we have loans and grants ready to go.
We're lucky that we have about another 10 days before we run out of money so I can keep them all calm and reassured.

Realistically we have nothing confirmed and if it doesn't happen soon then I wont be able to continue my part in this ensuring that my workforce are not in a dire situation.

It just a difficult balance.

[StuartHopkin]

For anyone who is interested in this from a business point of view, still no news on how to actually access the Business Interruption Loan's promised by the Government.

It is all good making these announcements, but if the actual money isn't available soon it is going to be too late for some companies.

Gets released on Monday

Still no news on this, and you best not furlough anyone..... as it doesn't exist in UK Law.

Good luck getting this resolved. I understand legal action will soon be instigated directly applicable to people in your situation, it might lead to something actually being done rather than impressive sounding talk 🤞

.. but aren't we having real issues keeping courts open right now?  Don't we give them until the end of Monday at least?  Surely these things can't be banged out in 5 minutes, and if they are there are going to be gaps/mistakes?
 

I can see both sides of it and I wouldn’t doubt it’s more sabre rattling than anything which of course in itself if questionable atm. Business owners are desperate though and the government should be held to their own deadlines/commitments, if you can’t do it, don’t say it. Anything that promotes action on this has some upside imo.

I don’t think you can see both sides of any argument.

The measures on SSP and on wage subsidy that have been introduced are substantial and far-reaching. It has to take time to establish a framework for approving applications and paying out money. Announcing it as soon as you have committed to it makes people feel better about the overall situation. Waiting the extra days till it is fully embedded loses that factor.

The loans, business rates and tax deferral schemes are all in place.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-to-employers-and-businesses-about-covid-19/covid-19-support-for-businesses#support-for-businesses-through-the-coronavirus-business-interruption-loan-scheme

The loan framework may be in place at Government level, but at Relationship Director level in Corporate Banking they have no indication of how it will work or when they can accept applications.
Speaking to both customers and suppliers this is across the board still this morning.

[kukushkin88]

For anyone who is interested in this from a business point of view, still no news on how to actually access the Business Interruption Loan's promised by the Government.

It is all good making these announcements, but if the actual money isn't available soon it is going to be too late for some companies.

Gets released on Monday

Still no news on this, and you best not furlough anyone..... as it doesn't exist in UK Law.

Good luck getting this resolved. I understand legal action will soon be instigated directly applicable to people in your situation, it might lead to something actually being done rather than impressive sounding talk 🤞

.. but aren't we having real issues keeping courts open right now?  Don't we give them until the end of Monday at least?  Surely these things can't be banged out in 5 minutes, and if they are there are going to be gaps/mistakes?
 

I can see both sides of it and I wouldn’t doubt it’s more sabre rattling than anything which of course in itself if questionable atm. Business owners are desperate though and the government should be held to their own deadlines/commitments, if you can’t do it, don’t say it. Anything that promotes action on this has some upside imo.

I don’t think you can see both sides of any argument.

The measures on SSP and on wage subsidy that have been introduced are substantial and far-reaching. It has to take time to establish a framework for approving applications and paying out money. Announcing it as soon as you have committed to it makes people feel better about the overall situation. Waiting the extra days till it is fully embedded loses that factor.

The loans, business rates and tax deferral schemes are all in place.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-to-employers-and-businesses-about-covid-19/covid-19-support-for-businesses#support-for-businesses-through-the-coronavirus-business-interruption-loan-scheme

I would feel under qualified to ever comment on anything unless I felt confidently I could see both sides (or more), it’s like a basic level of properly understanding anything, understanding it from as many perspectives as possible.

[Chompy]

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[Woodsey]

PM addressing the nation at 8.30pm, lockdown imminent......

[Doobs]

PM addressing the nation at 8.30pm, lockdown imminent......

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/this-is-not-a-film-italian-mayors-rage-coronavirus-lockdown-dodgers

[Ironside]

italian cops not messing about

https://www.facebook.com/alanbuctowtruck/videos/3647576721951663/?__tn__=%2CdCH-R-R&eid=ARC7oBmLLXSN40RIrdHfdYflEMp4LAQCrccWTsKSmkB78JSvU82CryAElBehA94wLlth8dQSokbQ0qp_&hc_ref=ARTUU-ak7QGwgRRAj0AfiqIeACG5OySpFew2KdXkcD8FkiJZg8JgYY54eazR9xd4fwo&fref=nf

[Chompy]

italian cops not messing about

https://www.facebook.com/alanbuctowtruck/videos/3647576721951663/?__tn__=%2CdCH-R-R&eid=ARC7oBmLLXSN40RIrdHfdYflEMp4LAQCrccWTsKSmkB78JSvU82CryAElBehA94wLlth8dQSokbQ0qp_&hc_ref=ARTUU-ak7QGwgRRAj0AfiqIeACG5OySpFew2KdXkcD8FkiJZg8JgYY54eazR9xd4fwo&fref=nf

Read somewhere that's from Brazil two years ago, but no idea if that's correct.