Bad mannered poker players

[Dingdell]

I have just returned from the Brighton (sussex masters) comp and was pretty pleased with my performance - last 3 tables with a blinding headache - so not too shabby.

I am however in shock over one player who was abusive and incredibly rude not only to me but other players. I am female and can be hormonal can someone tell me if I'm being sensitive or was it out of order.......at what point is it unacceptable....being a woman I'm not sure what men think is ok and what isn't.

I am short stacked, nearly go all in and decide not to push my chips in. Two other players do, the guy to my right who I have been having a great game with and a new player to our table who is in a great chip position decide to go all in.

I had 6 7 unsuited but the table had been paying off 6 7 all night but I just wasn't brave enough. As soon as they had shown their cards I admitted I had nearly pushed in with my 6 7. The cards come down and I see two sixes come into view, I shout out in disgust at my lack of balls and the newbie at our table takes offence thinking I am disappointed that the player to my left lost the race. Not al all I explain and repeat the 6 7 hand I had been holding.

Unimpressed he tells me to shut my mouth and button it and then refers to me as a fat C**T.

Now I take a bit of time normally to take offence as I always think the best of people, and this was no exception, and it wasn't until I had left the comp and had reflected on it that I really began to get upset.

In the meantime the guy has taken out another player, called him the same and then at the break seen him downstairs at the gaming tables and shouted LOSER LOSER at him several times.

I did report him eventually and the TD was great, keeping an eye on him and were ready to warn him if they heard it but as I hadn't reported him at the time I did look a bit stupid...

What do  others think? He had had a drink so there was that to take into account.  I chose not to allow him to put me on tilt (well i thought I had until I threw my chips in with a stupid hand!). Am I wrong to avoid confrontation at the table like this? Or would I have been better to let him have it there and then?

I feel a bit stupid about the whole thing and annoyed with myself for not handling it differently.

Tracey 

 

[AdamM]

you were out of order announcing the cards you passed and shouting as your dream flop came down, HOWEVER, his behaviour is far worse and, had you reported it instantly he should have been disqualified in my opinion. The guy sounds like an arse and your bad ettiquette has pressed his buttons. he has no place talking like that at a card table

[bolt pp]

it makes me laugh wahat people get away with in the name of poker.

i've never encountered anything as severe, directly, but have wittnessed this in live play numurous times.

i think theres a line that transcends the poker table and it,s down to the recipiant to differentiate between tilting trash talk and disrespectful insults.

can you imagine playing a stranger at pool in a pub and he calls you a fat c**t, it would go off straight away.

this guy was out of order, its not just your interpretation.

[AndrewT]

you were out of order announcing the cards you passed and shouting as your dream flop came down, HOWEVER, his behaviour is far worse and, had you reported it instantly he should have been disqualified in my opinion. The guy sounds like an arse and your bad ettiquette has pressed his buttons. he has no place talking like that at a card table

They were both all-in, so saying what she folded is not a problem.

Dingdell, as a woman, you are actually in a far more powerful position to handle this than a man is. I think the best way to handle it would have been to immediately stand up and shout 'WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY?' at him. Every eye in the room would then turn towards you, then to him. If there is no response, a 'What's the matter, cat got your tongue?' or 'Why don't you repeat it so everyone can hear?' will make him feel this big.

 *presses thumb and forefinger together to indicate very small amount*

I suppose it all depends on how confrontational you are.

[AdamM]

They were both all-in, so saying what she folded is not a problem.

it's terrible ettiquette

[bolt pp]

They were both all-in, so saying what she folded is not a problem.

it's terrible ettiquette

if the other guys are all in?

[matt674]

I would have replied,

"The cost of me going on a diet would be minimal, however i believe plastic surgery costs a fortune nowadays......"

Of course this would have led to me leaving the venue in an ambulance......

Seriously i would have reported it straight away to the TD - while i am all for a little trash and table talk during the game, personal insults are out of order - especially the one mentioned in your piece!!

[AdamM]

They were both all-in, so saying what she folded is not a problem.

it's terrible ettiquette

if the other guys are all in?

yes, and it's too common.

[MrMoves]

Tracey,

That's personal abuse and he should of been thrown out of the casino and banned.

What a brave guy, picking on a woman   - tosser.  It sounds like you did little wrong but react to the flop, a reaction that would not of resulted in a different outcome in the hand.

I didn't see or hear anything like that on Saturday evening.  I really like Rendezvous Casino in Brighton.  I guess you'll get idiots everywhere.

[bolt pp]

They were both all-in, so saying what she folded is not a problem.

it's terrible ettiquette

if the other guys are all in?

yes, and it's too common.

why?

[Royal Flush]

Yeah he is not a local and he did piss a lot of people off over the weekend.

[AdamM]

it's bad etiquette to announce what you passed when players are all in. their emotions are already frought when their tournaments are on the line. comments like "I passed an Ace" or, "I passed hearts" don't help.

If you've passed, keep to yourself what's in the muck.

[bolt pp]

well for that reason i dont think its very high up on the bad ettiquette list

if someone makes a comment of that nature whilst 2 or more players are all in they dont have to pay any attention.

It has no bearing on the outcome and,for me, is no more than a bearable irritation.

[londonpokergirl]

I think you did rather well from not hitting the idiot

I hope you have put this in a letter to the General Manager at the Rendevous, and you got the persons name so they can ban the idiot.

[The Truth]

It may be bad ettiquette but is not cheating and will not affect the outcome of the game, whereas calling any female a fat c**t  whilst I was at the table would prematurely end your evenings entertainment. That is not me trying to be masculine, just the way it is. Might make me a thug but so be it. Adam I can't believe you would play it down - the first offence (if it is one) cannot justify the abuse Trace got.