Discussions about: Staking - Betfair Football Trading

[maryhadalamb]

Skolsuper, voice of reason. Arbboy I appreciate your views, just don't go OTT or it detracts from the pertinent points you have made. IDK if they happen on blonde, but I'm sure there'd be interest in you sharing your expertise in a 2p2 style "Well".

Complete derail: I got money on Germany @ 29/2 on strength of the Deloitte analysis, when should I be looking to lay it off?

[henrik777]

missing the biggest 'well known if in the know' pre game gamble at the world cup is pretty embarrassing for someone claiming to have good contacts/knowledge of this field.  Like i have said all along i am trying to put some balance to this thread as most of you are poker players and not full time sports investors.  I really have no axe to grind in the slightest but i have had people ask my for my professional opinion on this for a while and i have sat back and watched with interest for months now.  After missing the Korea gamble i just thought it would be fair to highlight to the investors in an neutral way that the 'contacts/infortmation' may not be quite as good as some have been led to believe.

You make it sound like the world cup game was fixed.

Blatch was not staked.

Can you point to the bit where Blatch said he was using contacts ?

Sandy

That blonde disease must be catching.

As for staking, If it's good enough for Ben Grundy ......


Sandy

[EvilPie]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah investment manager. Blah blah blah blah blah soft $5 $10 cash game. Blah blah blah blah blah blah I trade as well. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah he pays 5% and I pay 2% Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah I know loads of people. Blah blah blah blah blah blah   Yet he is so talented in his 30's blah blah blah blah blah

Arbboy makes a very good argument and I for one agree entirely with everything he says.

[kinboshi]

Blah blah blah blah blah blah investment manager. Blah blah blah blah blah soft $5 $10 cash game. Blah blah blah blah blah blah I trade as well. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah he pays 5% and I pay 2% Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah I know loads of people. Blah blah blah blah blah blah  Yet he is so talented in his 30's blah blah blah blah blah

Arbboy makes a very good argument and I for one agree entirely with everything he says.

LOL

[Rupert]

I've played a lot of SNGs with arbboy (I no longer play them) on betfair and rated him as a bad reg that grinded out the leaderboards.  I'm sure he trades a lot better than his SNG skills!

Anyway, arbboy is making lots of good points.  Blatch, in hindsight would you agree the Korea game would have been better trade on?  Did you think the England game was better before the matches?  I don't doubt the validity of the trades you've posted (and frankly asking for screenshots brings into question Blatchs integrity and i'm fairly certain he's a stand up guy who isn't looking to bullshit some results) but do you think the results since the new year are simply down to poor luck or do you think you've made some judgemental errors?

[kinboshi]

I've played a lot of SNGs with arbboy (I no longer play them) on betfair and rated him as a bad reg that grinded out the leaderboards.  I'm sure he trades a lot better than his SNG skills!

Anyway, arbboy is making lots of good points.  Blatch, in hindsight would you agree the Korea game would have been better trade on?  Did you think the England game was better before the matches?  I don't doubt the validity of the trades you've posted (and frankly asking for screenshots brings into question Blatchs integrity and i'm fairly certain he's a stand up guy who isn't looking to bullshit some results) but do you think the results since the new year are simply down to poor luck or do you think you've made some judgemental errors?

I'm sure if arbboy had come on and posted what you have there Rupert, that Blatch would have answered pretty much immediately.

However, I'm sure the attempted character assassination and ridiculous repetition in arbboy's post obviously show an agenda that goes beyond that of someone who is 'concerned' for some people who have invested a few hundred pounds. 

[EvilPie]

I've played a lot of SNGs with arbboy (I no longer play them) on betfair and rated him as a bad reg that grinded out the leaderboards.  I'm sure he trades a lot better than his SNG skills!

Anyway, arbboy is making lots of good points.  Blatch, in hindsight would you agree the Korea game would have been better trade on?  Did you think the England game was better before the matches?  I don't doubt the validity of the trades you've posted (and frankly asking for screenshots brings into question Blatchs integrity and i'm fairly certain he's a stand up guy who isn't looking to bullshit some results) but do you think the results since the new year are simply down to poor luck or do you think you've made some judgemental errors?

I'm sure if arbboy had come on and posted what you have there Rupert, that Blatch would have answered pretty much immediately.

However, I'm sure the attempted character assassination and ridiculous repetition in arbboy's post obviously show an agenda that goes beyond that of someone who is 'concerned' for some people who have invested a few hundred pounds. 

I don't think a character assassination is going to bother Blatch.

He's a mature man in his 30's after all.

[booder]

I don't think a character assassination is going to bother Blatch.

He's a mature man in his 30's after all.

solid

[outragous76]

I have been an avid viewer of this thread and believe that Arboy has really put a huge bad karma hit on it.

You should all get behind blatch, and keep the good karma rolling

Blatch has told people why he didnt trade korea - not sure why they keep going on about it

Bring the love back to this thread and move on.............................................

[BAM]

I have been an avid viewer of this thread and believe that Arboy has really put a huge bad karma hit on it.

You should all get behind blatch, and keep the good karma rolling

Blatch has told people why he didnt trade korea - not sure why they keep going on about it

Bring the love back to this thread and move on.............................................

yea lots of love people

dig deep blatchness

[boldie]

I have been an avid viewer of this thread and believe that Arboy has really put a huge bad karma hit on it.

You should all get behind blatch, and keep the good karma rolling

Blatch has told people why he didnt trade korea - not sure why they keep going on about it

Bring the love back to this thread and move on.............................................

Very much this. I used to like this thread and now it's gone all negative.

[ForthThistle]

Blatch is da nuts.

Jog on arbboy..

[leethefish]

Blatch is da nuts.

Jog on arbboy..

agreed

[GreekStein]

I've played a lot of SNGs with arbboy (I no longer play them) on betfair and rated him as a bad reg that grinded out the leaderboards.  I'm sure he trades a lot better than his SNG skills!

Anyway, arbboy is making lots of good points.  Blatch, in hindsight would you agree the Korea game would have been better trade on?  Did you think the England game was better before the matches?  I don't doubt the validity of the trades you've posted (and frankly asking for screenshots brings into question Blatchs integrity and i'm fairly certain he's a stand up guy who isn't looking to bullshit some results) but do you think the results since the new year are simply down to poor luck or do you think you've made some judgemental errors?

Most people know Blatch so he isn't going to be bothered by one stalker who watches in the distance while he has the odd spin at roulette. The personal attacks ARE out of line though.

However, I don't agree that asking for screenshots is questioning his integrity. My money wouldn't be involved if I was doubting his integrity and I'm sure Blatch wouldn't stake me if he questioned mine etc etc etc.

However, I can't think of a staking agreement where stakers don't have access to viewing results/progess through an official source or have access to the stakee's account/s. Blatch can post profit/loss sheets or just pm them individually to stakers.

No-one will have any information about how he's working his magic, but it is basically the correct thing to do and a good way to silence things when the thread gets like it's gotten in the last few days.

[GreekStein]

I will try to update this thread with our posistion on every game that I trade on.  One thing I wont do is give out the password to the account to anyone, however I will gladly send screenshots to anyone and also open up the account to anyone at DTD for anyone to have a look out.  I feel if I give the password out to people then they can go in any chnage things etc and it could lead to issues.