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« Reply #42915 on: June 11, 2013, 09:29:58 AM »

Aidan O'Brien says Sir John Hawkins could join Stubbs in the Coventry at Royal Ascot. Both are towards the top of the pecking order at home it seems and are joint-favs for next year's 2,000 Guineas.

Stubbs is 7/2 for the Coventry, Sir John Hawkins is 12/1! (Bet365)

Rec £25 Sir John Hawkins @ 12/1

Also, Camelot is 11/4 for the Prince Of Wales's at Ascot but being ignored for the Eclipse on Betty. I've no idea why, Aidan loves Camelot and loves the Eclipse.

Rec £25 @ 17 Camelot for the Eclipse

Camelot is best priced 6/1 for the Eclipse.

And so, Chompy gets the Double Rebuff up.

It was there with Betty until the last day or so. Last price matched on there was 23.

Obviously there's a chance he won't run. A lot depends on what happens at Royal Ascot and Adrian has plenty of others he can run but that's part of the gamble.

Ask for £10 at 22 on Betty. Should get taken.

Done, but only partially matched.  

Mere may have to keep an eye on this, in case I cannot access Betfair from Vegas. He takes over at midnight tomorrow, God help you getting bets past him, you'll know what rebuff is then.


£10 @ 23, Betfair, Camelot, Eclipse Stakes, Sandown


ON

Waiting (unmatched)

Back (Bet For)
 

15:30 Sand 6th Jul

Camelot Eclipse Stks

22

£9.37

£196.77
 



Partially Matched

Ref: 27638843970 Submitted: 10:25 11-Jun-13


Placed (matched)

Back (Bet For)
 
 15:30 Sand 6th Jul



Camelot Eclipse Stks

23

£0.63

£13.86
 
Partially Matched

Ref: 27638843970M Matched: 10:25 11-Jun-13
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« Reply #42916 on: June 11, 2013, 09:37:12 AM »

Only thing I hate about golf betting is I can never stop backing a player once I go in a few times!

Think i've backed Villegas and Fowler in every major they've ever played even though Villegas seems to have dropped off the face of the earth

Shin is firmly in that catagory now but extremely confident she will be out of it before those two Smiley

Same as this! KJ Choi gets my vote in a lot of the majors. May as well burn money.
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« Reply #42917 on: June 11, 2013, 09:45:40 AM »

Aidan O'Brien says Sir John Hawkins could join Stubbs in the Coventry at Royal Ascot. Both are towards the top of the pecking order at home it seems and are joint-favs for next year's 2,000 Guineas.

Stubbs is 7/2 for the Coventry, Sir John Hawkins is 12/1! (Bet365)

Rec £25 Sir John Hawkins @ 12/1

Also, Camelot is 11/4 for the Prince Of Wales's at Ascot but being ignored for the Eclipse on Betty. I've no idea why, Aidan loves Camelot and loves the Eclipse.

Rec £25 @ 17 Camelot for the Eclipse

Bet365 are the only firm with a market up for the Coventry, & still go 12/1, but they only offered me £0.83, so I've swerved it.

Counts as a rebuff, puts you top of the table.

I will lay you a tenner if you like.

Sounds ominous.......you have confidence in Chompy's selection then?

We may as well circulate the money between ourselves.

Yes please, BOOKED.

£10 @ 12/1, Sir John Hawkins, Coventry Stakes, Royal Ascot, with Honest Doobs Bookmakers.

Let me know how you wish me to settle up please.

Must have been mentioned in the Sporting Life stable write up........ Cheesy
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« Reply #42918 on: June 11, 2013, 09:46:22 AM »

Only thing I hate about golf betting is I can never stop backing a player once I go in a few times!

Think i've backed Villegas and Fowler in every major they've ever played even though Villegas seems to have dropped off the face of the earth

Shin is firmly in that catagory now but extremely confident she will be out of it before those two Smiley

Same as this! KJ Choi gets my vote in a lot of the majors. May as well burn money.


I'm also a Fowler fouler.
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« Reply #42919 on: June 11, 2013, 11:27:23 AM »

US Open Golf

Conditions are terrible and expected to remain very soft

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The course is waterlogged

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/golf/22851057

In these circumstances, it would make sense to have

a) the longest hitters on tour
b) the straightest hitters on tour
a) and b) combined

as the course will be too long for the shorter players in these conditions. Furthermore the putting stats have less relevance as the greens will be relatively easy/slow

So given the above, which players should be shortlisted (when allied to current form) at suitable prices for this event?
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« Reply #42920 on: June 11, 2013, 11:29:44 AM »

Got Dustbin Johnson written all over it!







Oh, and David Howell of course Grin
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« Reply #42921 on: June 11, 2013, 11:41:03 AM »

It's not a long course, in fact the bigger hitters were only expected to use driver off the tee a couple of times each round so considering the course has to be playable (as in not waterlogged) I don't think the rain is much of a factor personally.

I don't think it's suddenly going to start favouring the bombers although the greens being receptive does jog my memory back to McIlroy's US Open win on an untypically soft course a couple of years ago.
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« Reply #42922 on: June 11, 2013, 11:47:43 AM »

On a serious note I think Sergio as Top European is a massive bet at 10-1 ew a place paying first 4.

Last win on Tour was in wet conditions.
Made Top 25 in last 18/19 events bar one where he pulled due to injury.
6th in Par 4 stats, perfect for this course
Playin in 13 US Opens and has 7 Top 20 finishes
Ranked First in Scrambles


Not feeling too hot on many of the other Europeans this week and Serge looks a banker place in this market, Recomend £30ew at 10s with Coral Paddy 365
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« Reply #42923 on: June 11, 2013, 12:02:23 PM »

On a serious note I think Sergio as Top European is a massive bet at 10-1 ew a place paying first 4.

Last win on Tour was in wet conditions.
Made Top 25 in last 18/19 events bar one where he pulled due to injury.
6th in Par 4 stats, perfect for this course
Playin in 13 US Opens and has 7 Top 20 finishes
Ranked First in Scrambles


Not feeling too hot on many of the other Europeans this week and Serge looks a banker place in this market, Recomend £30ew at 10s with Coral Paddy 365

I may have to do that Adzy, those stats look overwhelmingly good.

My problem with Mr Garcia is that he seems to be getting a little flakey in the bonce, & he is becoming a bit of an unrealised talent.

The price does look big though, I admit.   
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« Reply #42924 on: June 11, 2013, 12:09:00 PM »

Good thing is he could come 10th and still win!!
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« Reply #42925 on: June 11, 2013, 12:21:16 PM »

SIR HENRY CECIL, one of the most influential and successful racehorse trainers of all time, has died. He was 70.
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« Reply #42926 on: June 11, 2013, 12:23:03 PM »

Desperate times call for desperate measures, I'm told.

The eighth Tal Memorial starts on Thursday and I think it's fair to say it is already regarded as a Major in the chess calendar. This year's competition is as strong as ever:

No. Player                      Country Rating w-rank
1    Magnus Carlsen          Norway 2864      1
2    Vladimir Kramnik         Russia 2803        3
3    Viswanathan Anand     India 2786        4
4    Hikaru Nakamura         USA   2784        5
5    Sergey Karjakin           Russia 2782       7
6    Fabiano Caruana          Italy 2774         9
7    Alexander Morozevich  Russia 2760       10
8    Boris Gelfand              Israel 2755         12
9    Shakhriyar Mamedyarov Azerbaidjan 2753 14
10 Dmitry Andreikin            Russia 2713       29

Special rules

•Participants are required to follow the tournament schedule strictly – in case a player is one hour or more late for the game he is forfeited (i.e. no "zero tolerance" rule!).
•It is forbidden to offer a draw before and including move 40.
•Participants are required to comment on their games in the press center after each round unless, they have lost.
•It is forbidden for participants to have their mobile devices working in the playing zone. All electronic devices should be handled to the chief arbiter during the game.

Scoring system

The scoring is one point for a win, 0.5 points for a draw and 0 points for a loss. In case if the number of points is equal the following additional coefficients are used for places in the final table:

•Maximum number of games played with black pieces;
•Maximum number of wins;
•Direct encounter;
•Koja coefficient;
•Sonneborn-Berger score.

If all that's clear, we'll move on to the prices:

http://www.marathonbet.com/en/betting/Chess/

Carlsen has shortened from 6/5 since the market opened the other day to as good as even money. The big drifter from that is his rival for the world title in November, Vishy Anand. 15/1 is a heeeowge price, considering he has recently been showing signs of a return to form. He hasn't won a comp of this calibre for a good while, though and that is a consideration. He draws too many games and probably doesn't win often enough with Black to advocate a bet. The field has a number of players who like to push for wins and take risks, which suggests the more solid types like Anand might fall short of the winning post, even if they do pick up some rating points. A lot of people would love him to put in a big performance in this comp and it would give him some much-needed confidence, heading into November.

Carlsen hasn't played for a little while, since he got pipped to the post by Karjakin in Norway last month. He's had a few off-board issues, because there has been a lot of controversy over where the World Title match is going to be played. The governing body - not unlike FIFA - has made a decision seemingly not entirely for pure sporting reasons and it means that Anand will have home field advantage for the match in November. Carlsen and his people are furious and sought to appeal to get a vote in place, as Paris had submitted a proposal. But no.

Karjakin is the second favourite and he is in good form. He was arguably a little fortunate in Norway (that's harsh, but he got so far in the lead early that it was difficult for him to be caught. He was and then both he and Carlsen lost their last game, ensuring that he was able to cling on for the win) and won a blitz tournament the other day (he is very good at those), but deserves to be a high in the market. I'd just never put him above Kramnik.

Kramnik has had a break, unlike a few of the players in this comp (Nakamura for example looks completely burned out - I would expect him to finish this comp and head straight to Vegas to play in the WSOP, as he's known to be a keen poker player) and was recently spotted in the crowd at Roland Garros, cheering on Mr Djokovic against Nadal. He's loved in Russia and is playing with a new lease of life in the last 10 months. He's also good with the Black pieces, which, in a close tournament such as this is likely to be, might well be decisive. His opening knowledge should serve him well against a few of the lower seeds and he will likely pick up a few points against those struggling for form, owing to his patience and strong positional understanding. I think he is an excellent price.

Even money can't represent value when Carlsen isn't playing at the absolute top of his game and there are a few just beneath him who are starting to find their range. He's still the man to beat. It would be like taking MvG out of a darts comp and Taylor being even money; you can't say 'don't bet on him' but you know you aren't getting much bang for your buck when you do.

If you want my view on who I think represents the Next Best, it would be Kramnik without hesitation at 6.8. Fred fancy a score?
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« Reply #42927 on: June 11, 2013, 12:24:10 PM »

SIR HENRY CECIL, one of the most influential and successful racehorse trainers of all time, has died. He was 70.

Oh my God.

Well I suppose it was expected, & we hated to see the great man suffer so.

There was never a trainer I admired & respected more than Sir Henry. He learned well from his stepfather, Sir Cecil-Boyd Rochfort, another of the all-time greats especially with stayers & Cup horses.

RIP Sir Henry. 
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« Reply #42928 on: June 11, 2013, 12:25:39 PM »


Tal Bloke - thanks, yes, we will get on that Chess bet later today.
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« Reply #42929 on: June 11, 2013, 12:29:43 PM »

SIR HENRY CECIL, one of the most influential and successful racehorse trainers of all time, has died. He was 70.

Oh my God.

Well I suppose it was expected, & we hated to see the great man suffer so.

There was never a trainer I admired & respected more than Sir Henry. He learned well from his stepfather, Sir Cecil-Boyd Rochfort, another of the all-time greats especially with stayers & Cup horses.

RIP Sir Henry. 

Awful news. My dad has met him a few times and could not speak more highly of him.

Terrible shame.
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