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Question: Do you agree that Scotland should be an independent country?
Yes - because it would be better for the Scots
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« Reply #315 on: September 02, 2014, 10:52:23 PM »

will you have your own version of Eastenders once the BBC is scrapped on your new national tv network from the east end of Glasgow?
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« Reply #316 on: September 02, 2014, 10:54:31 PM »

To say so many things a myth is a joke. The reality is that no one really knows what life in an independent Scotland would be like.

No doubt some people will move. I know people who have had properties valued in anticipation. Some jobs will move too as they mainly trade South of the border. Standard Life for example employs in the region of 5000 people in Scotland and have already confirmed contingency plans in the event of independence.

To say the big banks are not Scottish is a joke too. I guess it is the Andy Murray situation. Doing well he is British but struggling he is Scottish. If the banks were strong I am sure an argument for independence would be we have 2 strong Scottish banks. Having worked for Bank of Scotland I can assure you that they are very proud of their Scottish roots.




Standard Life, the first major Scottish company to draw up contingency plans in the event of a “yes” vote for independence, has reiterated that there is still no clarity over the concerns raised by the referendum as it posted a 12pc rise in first-half operating profit.

With the vote on Scottish Independence less than two months away, the company said it did "not believe that further clarity has been provided" on issues raised in February that could materially affect its four million UK customers, shareholders, and staff.

These material issues include what currency will an independent Scotland use, whether it will join the EU, the shape of the monetary system, financial regulation, taxation and the impact of the change on savings and pensions.

The pensions, savings and insurance giant said in February that it was preparing to shift operations and personnel from its Edinburgh headquarters a “precautionary measure to ensure continuity of our businesses’ competitive position”.




I'm just trying to digest everything, and understand it as I go. Having read most of Mac's posts, I view them the same way I view one of Ant's suggestions to lump on Palace Smiley
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« Reply #317 on: September 02, 2014, 11:01:21 PM »

will you have your own version of Eastenders once the BBC is scrapped on your new national tv network from the east end of Glasgow?

scotland will just do what ireland does and rent the bbc
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« Reply #318 on: September 02, 2014, 11:02:44 PM »

will you have your own version of Eastenders once the BBC is scrapped on your new national tv network from the east end of Glasgow?

scotland will just do what ireland does and rent the bbc

why would you rent it 'when it's shit and no one wants it?'
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« Reply #319 on: September 02, 2014, 11:03:48 PM »

will you have your own version of Eastenders once the BBC is scrapped on your new national tv network from the east end of Glasgow?

scotland will just do what ireland does and rent the bbc

And save 260 millin a year and invest that in a broadcaster that has integrity and remains impartial.  
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« Reply #320 on: September 02, 2014, 11:04:56 PM »

will you have your own version of Eastenders once the BBC is scrapped on your new national tv network from the east end of Glasgow?

scotland will just do what ireland does and rent the bbc

why would you rent it 'when it's shit and no one wants it?'

Why do millions of peope watch xfactor, britains got talent, I'm a celebrity, big brother etc.  We can buy in the best bits from the bbc. 
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« Reply #321 on: September 02, 2014, 11:07:31 PM »

will you have your own version of Eastenders once the BBC is scrapped on your new national tv network from the east end of Glasgow?

scotland will just do what ireland does and rent the bbc

why would you rent it 'when it's shit and no one wants it?'

Why do millions of peope watch xfactor, britains got talent, I'm a celebrity, big brother etc.  We can buy in the best bits from the bbc. 

Never catch me watching any of that reality tv nonsense  scared
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« Reply #322 on: September 02, 2014, 11:08:07 PM »

KMAC what is your view on English/Welsh/NI people should have a vote as to whether you are allowed to weaken the United Kingdom by leaving?
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« Reply #323 on: September 02, 2014, 11:08:49 PM »

will you have your own version of Eastenders once the BBC is scrapped on your new national tv network from the east end of Glasgow?

scotland will just do what ireland does and rent the bbc

And save 260 millin a year and invest that in a broadcaster that has integrity and remains impartial. 


wow you really think that by going independent thinks will change that much any broadcaster we get will likely have the same bias as the bbc is the bbc is biased then any broadcaster in scotland will likely have a bias scottish people are just people and not all of them are perfect infact i am the only perfect person i know we all have flaws

by being independent we will just have flaws by scottish people to deal with rather than british
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« Reply #324 on: September 02, 2014, 11:11:10 PM »

To say so many things a myth is a joke. The reality is that no one really knows what life in an independent Scotland would be like.

No doubt some people will move. I know people who have had properties valued in anticipation. Some jobs will move too as they mainly trade South of the border. Standard Life for example employs in the region of 5000 people in Scotland and have already confirmed contingency plans in the event of independence.

To say the big banks are not Scottish is a joke too. I guess it is the Andy Murray situation. Doing well he is British but struggling he is Scottish. If the banks were strong I am sure an argument for independence would be we have 2 strong Scottish banks. Having worked for Bank of Scotland I can assure you that they are very proud of their Scottish roots.




Standard Life, the first major Scottish company to draw up contingency plans in the event of a “yes” vote for independence, has reiterated that there is still no clarity over the concerns raised by the referendum as it posted a 12pc rise in first-half operating profit.

With the vote on Scottish Independence less than two months away, the company said it did "not believe that further clarity has been provided" on issues raised in February that could materially affect its four million UK customers, shareholders, and staff.

These material issues include what currency will an independent Scotland use, whether it will join the EU, the shape of the monetary system, financial regulation, taxation and the impact of the change on savings and pensions.

The pensions, savings and insurance giant said in February that it was preparing to shift operations and personnel from its Edinburgh headquarters a “precautionary measure to ensure continuity of our businesses’ competitive position”.




I'm just trying to digest everything, and understand it as I go. Having read most of Mac's posts, I view them the same way I view one of Ant's suggestions to lump on Palace Smiley


Standard Life said they would go in event of devolution.  They are still here.  

Regards the banks, having and being proud of roots is one thing.  But banks are decided on where they do their business.  

I said myth to many of the things you posted from your mate as that is what they are.   Bear in mind I am not impartial but I know this rguement very well and the lies and misinformation being spread by no campaigners re appalling.  

I am not a member of any political party, I used to be in Labour I left when Blair became PM.  My views are all my own, but they are well researched.  I work independently along with some really sharp minds in the RIC.  

I do alot of work on the ground, I give people an honest assessment of pros on cons.  I don't see many cons of independence.  It's normal.  
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« Reply #325 on: September 02, 2014, 11:13:34 PM »

KMAC what is your view on English/Welsh/NI people should have a vote as to whether you are allowed to weaken the United Kingdom by leaving?

I think I'd prefer that the people of England, Wales and the whole or Ireland should have a referendum on remaining part of the Union. 

We were never given  vote when we joined. 
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« Reply #326 on: September 02, 2014, 11:14:13 PM »

So you think downsizing your buying power ten fold from my Tesco extra to corner shop example isn't a negative of the yes vote?  You have conveniently ignored that post.  Your answer please if you wouldn't mind.
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« Reply #327 on: September 02, 2014, 11:15:14 PM »

will you have your own version of Eastenders once the BBC is scrapped on your new national tv network from the east end of Glasgow?

scotland will just do what ireland does and rent the bbc

And save 260 millin a year and invest that in a broadcaster that has integrity and remains impartial. 


wow you really think that by going independent thinks will change that much any broadcaster we get will likely have the same bias as the bbc is the bbc is biased then any broadcaster in scotland will likely have a bias scottish people are just people and not all of them are perfect infact i am the only perfect person i know we all have flaws

by being independent we will just have flaws by scottish people to deal with rather than british

Why wouldn't it.  If we had a constitution and part of that constitution was that the SBC mush show impartiality and balance then I would hope that it would be.  
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« Reply #328 on: September 02, 2014, 11:18:08 PM »

So you think downsizing your buying power ten fold from my Tesco extra to corner shop example isn't a negative of the yes vote?  You have conveniently ignored that post.  Your answer please if you wouldn't mind.

How are we downsizing our buying power?  I never ignored it.  first time I just thought it wasn't worth comment tbh. 

Bigger isn't always better.  Countries with similar populations to Scotland do well for themselves when it comes to negotiating and buying.  Coincidentally, one of the main reasons we don't want to be part of the Union is that we don't get the decisions which we vote for. 
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« Reply #329 on: September 02, 2014, 11:20:52 PM »

So you think downsizing your buying power ten fold from my Tesco extra to corner shop example isn't a negative of the yes vote?  You have conveniently ignored that post.  Your answer please if you wouldn't mind.

How are we downsizing our buying power?  I never ignored it.  first time I just thought it wasn't worth comment tbh. 

Bigger isn't always better.  Countries with similar populations to Scotland do well for themselves when it comes to negotiating and buying.  Coincidentally, one of the main reasons we don't want to be part of the Union is that we don't get the decisions which we vote for. 

bigger is better when it comes to economies of scale and buying power in virtually every instance.  What will Scotland's credit rating be as a stand alone country compared to being part of the UK for example?
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