The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[david3103]

Is knowledge knowing that a tomato is a fruit but wisdom knowing not to put it in the fruit salad?

No. Knowledge is knowing when someone is trolling but wisdom is knowing not to argue with them.

You troll me relentlessly despite me asking you politely on more than one occasion to ignore my posts.

I have no idea why I annoy you so much, but I am not going to change my outlook on life just to please you.

I don't know why you assume I was referring to you, but there's a simple solution, just ignore my posts.

I dunno, maybe "Oh, sorry, I thought we were having a serious discussion. I'll leave you to it." made me think you were referring to me.

Well maybe I thought "My definition of thick is someone who votes in a referendum for something which is clearly against his and his families best interest" was not a serious answer.


Just for clarity, (although I'm sure I've said this before) this is a public forum, I have absolutely no intention of ignoring your posts, If I have an opposite opinion to yours I will post it, if I have a question for you, I will ask it.

I have no problem with people who disagree with me. DungBeetle and RickBFA couldn't have be much more polar opposite with their views on politics. Yet my interaction with them always manages to be cordial yet robust.

You seem to always want to make sly little personal digs. As I said earlier I don't know why you do it.

You drove me off the forum once for 6 months, but I came to realise how much I enjoyed posting here, so I won't let you do it again.

That's just not true though. We had differing opinions. As far as I can remember you said old people shouldn't be allowed to vote and I didn't agree with you. You couldn't get your own way so you sulked for 6 months.

If I'm wrong please link me to what ever it is you are referring to and I will look at it again and re evaluate.

See, there you go again, with an unnecessary personal dig.

Maybe it's just your posting style and you don't realise you are doing it.

You said I drove you off the forum for 6 months. I think that qualifies a personal attack and warrants a robust reply.

However, I'm not so conceited as to think I couldn't be wrong so I will invite you once again to link me to what ever it is you are referring to and I will look at it again and re evaluate.

I think this is the sentence Keith takes exception to. I would too in the circumstances.

[RED-DOG]

Is knowledge knowing that a tomato is a fruit but wisdom knowing not to put it in the fruit salad?

No. Knowledge is knowing when someone is trolling but wisdom is knowing not to argue with them.

You troll me relentlessly despite me asking you politely on more than one occasion to ignore my posts.

I have no idea why I annoy you so much, but I am not going to change my outlook on life just to please you.

I don't know why you assume I was referring to you, but there's a simple solution, just ignore my posts.

I dunno, maybe "Oh, sorry, I thought we were having a serious discussion. I'll leave you to it." made me think you were referring to me.

Well maybe I thought "My definition of thick is someone who votes in a referendum for something which is clearly against his and his families best interest" was not a serious answer.


Just for clarity, (although I'm sure I've said this before) this is a public forum, I have absolutely no intention of ignoring your posts, If I have an opposite opinion to yours I will post it, if I have a question for you, I will ask it.

I have no problem with people who disagree with me. DungBeetle and RickBFA couldn't have be much more polar opposite with their views on politics. Yet my interaction with them always manages to be cordial yet robust.

You seem to always want to make sly little personal digs. As I said earlier I don't know why you do it.

You drove me off the forum once for 6 months, but I came to realise how much I enjoyed posting here, so I won't let you do it again.

That's just not true though. We had differing opinions. As far as I can remember you said old people shouldn't be allowed to vote and I didn't agree with you. You couldn't get your own way so you sulked for 6 months.

If I'm wrong please link me to what ever it is you are referring to and I will look at it again and re evaluate.

See, there you go again, with an unnecessary personal dig.

Maybe it's just your posting style and you don't realise you are doing it.

You said I drove you off the forum for 6 months. I think that qualifies a personal attack and warrants a robust reply.

However, I'm not so conceited as to think I couldn't be wrong so I will invite you once again to link me to what ever it is you are referring to and I will look at it again and re evaluate.

I think this is the sentence Keith takes exception to. I would too in the circumstances.

If you were me, would you also take exception to the comments that I have emboldened?

[The Camel]

Extreme right wing government?

I don't see much in the attitudes of the declared candidates that makes them extreme anything.

UKIP wins 100 seats and forms a coalition with the Tories.

Some things Farage has voiced support for in the past: privatised NHS, legalised handgun ownership, restoration of the death penalty, scrapping racial and sexual equality laws.

How's that little lot for starters?

When do you think the next GE will be?

Tories hang on to what they have till 2020, or call an early election in an attempt to 'get a mandate' for the new leader and to muddy the waters around the referendum result?

When I bought UKIP seats at 25 I was working under the assumption that there would be a snap election - Labour in disarray and new Tory leader (presumably Boris) looking to get a mandate.

But with May or Leadsome almost certain to win, the chance has diminshed a bit.

I think it's more likely they go to 2020, although if May wins, possibility she negotiates a deal with the EU and uses a GE as a de facto second referendum.

[david3103]

Is knowledge knowing that a tomato is a fruit but wisdom knowing not to put it in the fruit salad?

No. Knowledge is knowing when someone is trolling but wisdom is knowing not to argue with them.

You troll me relentlessly despite me asking you politely on more than one occasion to ignore my posts.

I have no idea why I annoy you so much, but I am not going to change my outlook on life just to please you.

I don't know why you assume I was referring to you, but there's a simple solution, just ignore my posts.

I dunno, maybe "Oh, sorry, I thought we were having a serious discussion. I'll leave you to it." made me think you were referring to me.

Well maybe I thought "My definition of thick is someone who votes in a referendum for something which is clearly against his and his families best interest" was not a serious answer.


Just for clarity, (although I'm sure I've said this before) this is a public forum, I have absolutely no intention of ignoring your posts, If I have an opposite opinion to yours I will post it, if I have a question for you, I will ask it.

I have no problem with people who disagree with me. DungBeetle and RickBFA couldn't have be much more polar opposite with their views on politics. Yet my interaction with them always manages to be cordial yet robust.

You seem to always want to make sly little personal digs. As I said earlier I don't know why you do it.

You drove me off the forum once for 6 months, but I came to realise how much I enjoyed posting here, so I won't let you do it again.

That's just not true though. We had differing opinions. As far as I can remember you said old people shouldn't be allowed to vote and I didn't agree with you. You couldn't get your own way so you sulked for 6 months.

If I'm wrong please link me to what ever it is you are referring to and I will look at it again and re evaluate.

See, there you go again, with an unnecessary personal dig.

Maybe it's just your posting style and you don't realise you are doing it.

You said I drove you off the forum for 6 months. I think that qualifies a personal attack and warrants a robust reply.

However, I'm not so conceited as to think I couldn't be wrong so I will invite you once again to link me to what ever it is you are referring to and I will look at it again and re evaluate.

I think this is the sentence Keith takes exception to. I would too in the circumstances.

If you were me, would you also take exception to the comments that I have emboldened?

I might, but I probably wouldn't be inclined to continue the debate argument.

[The Camel]

Is knowledge knowing that a tomato is a fruit but wisdom knowing not to put it in the fruit salad?

No. Knowledge is knowing when someone is trolling but wisdom is knowing not to argue with them.

You troll me relentlessly despite me asking you politely on more than one occasion to ignore my posts.

I have no idea why I annoy you so much, but I am not going to change my outlook on life just to please you.

I don't know why you assume I was referring to you, but there's a simple solution, just ignore my posts.

I dunno, maybe "Oh, sorry, I thought we were having a serious discussion. I'll leave you to it." made me think you were referring to me.

Well maybe I thought "My definition of thick is someone who votes in a referendum for something which is clearly against his and his families best interest" was not a serious answer.


Just for clarity, (although I'm sure I've said this before) this is a public forum, I have absolutely no intention of ignoring your posts, If I have an opposite opinion to yours I will post it, if I have a question for you, I will ask it.

I have no problem with people who disagree with me. DungBeetle and RickBFA couldn't have be much more polar opposite with their views on politics. Yet my interaction with them always manages to be cordial yet robust.

You seem to always want to make sly little personal digs. As I said earlier I don't know why you do it.

You drove me off the forum once for 6 months, but I came to realise how much I enjoyed posting here, so I won't let you do it again.

That's just not true though. We had differing opinions. As far as I can remember you said old people shouldn't be allowed to vote and I didn't agree with you. You couldn't get your own way so you sulked for 6 months.

If I'm wrong please link me to what ever it is you are referring to and I will look at it again and re evaluate.

See, there you go again, with an unnecessary personal dig.

Maybe it's just your posting style and you don't realise you are doing it.

You said I drove you off the forum for 6 months. I think that qualifies a personal attack and warrants a robust reply.

However, I'm not so conceited as to think I couldn't be wrong so I will invite you once again to link me to what ever it is you are referring to and I will look at it again and re evaluate.

I think this is the sentence Keith takes exception to. I would too in the circumstances.

If you were me, would you also take exception to the comments that I have emboldened?

It was a statement of fact that you drove me off the forum for 6 months.

I felt if you weren't a mod your post would have been deleted and I didn't feel like posting on a forum where members were treated differently depending on who they were.

I changed my mind after a while and vowed to ignore you instead. Which as you can see, I'm not doing very successfully!

[PokerBroker]

Keith, I really think you're panic is over exagerrated.  I can't see a situation were UKIP get over 25 seats.  

Further, we are not going to have guns legalised in this country anytime soon.  The Biggest threat to NHS privatisation was TTIP, being out the EU guards against that, regardless of how much the Tories want to sell it off.  

I can't see the death penalty ever being in force in the UK again, there was a reason why it was got rid of in the first place.  If there was a fail safe way to prove guilt 100% there are occasions when I don't think the death penalty is a bad move.

[The Camel]

Keith, I really think you're panic is over exagerrated.  I can't see a situation were UKIP get over 25 seats.  

Further, we are not going to have guns legalised in this country anytime soon.  The Biggest threat to NHS privatisation was TTIP, being out the EU guards against that, regardless of how much the Tories want to sell it off.  

I can't see the death penalty ever being in force in the UK again, there was a reason why it was got rid of in the first place.  If there was a fail safe way to prove guilt 100% there are occasions when I don't think the death penalty is a bad move.

The majority of people in this country support the death penalty.

It's an extremely populist policy which UKIP could easily include which would be garner lots of support in areas where they did very well last week.

[RED-DOG]

Is knowledge knowing that a tomato is a fruit but wisdom knowing not to put it in the fruit salad?

No. Knowledge is knowing when someone is trolling but wisdom is knowing not to argue with them.

You troll me relentlessly despite me asking you politely on more than one occasion to ignore my posts.

I have no idea why I annoy you so much, but I am not going to change my outlook on life just to please you.

I don't know why you assume I was referring to you, but there's a simple solution, just ignore my posts.

I dunno, maybe "Oh, sorry, I thought we were having a serious discussion. I'll leave you to it." made me think you were referring to me.

Well maybe I thought "My definition of thick is someone who votes in a referendum for something which is clearly against his and his families best interest" was not a serious answer.


Just for clarity, (although I'm sure I've said this before) this is a public forum, I have absolutely no intention of ignoring your posts, If I have an opposite opinion to yours I will post it, if I have a question for you, I will ask it.

I have no problem with people who disagree with me. DungBeetle and RickBFA couldn't have be much more polar opposite with their views on politics. Yet my interaction with them always manages to be cordial yet robust.

You seem to always want to make sly little personal digs. As I said earlier I don't know why you do it.

You drove me off the forum once for 6 months, but I came to realise how much I enjoyed posting here, so I won't let you do it again.

That's just not true though. We had differing opinions. As far as I can remember you said old people shouldn't be allowed to vote and I didn't agree with you. You couldn't get your own way so you sulked for 6 months.

If I'm wrong please link me to what ever it is you are referring to and I will look at it again and re evaluate.

See, there you go again, with an unnecessary personal dig.

Maybe it's just your posting style and you don't realise you are doing it.

You said I drove you off the forum for 6 months. I think that qualifies a personal attack and warrants a robust reply.

However, I'm not so conceited as to think I couldn't be wrong so I will invite you once again to link me to what ever it is you are referring to and I will look at it again and re evaluate.

I think this is the sentence Keith takes exception to. I would too in the circumstances.

If you were me, would you also take exception to the comments that I have emboldened?

I might, but I probably wouldn't be inclined to continue the debate argument.

That's fair comment David.

[JohnCharver]

Keith, I really think you're panic is over exagerrated.  I can't see a situation were UKIP get over 25 seats.  

Further, we are not going to have guns legalised in this country anytime soon.  The Biggest threat to NHS privatisation was TTIP, being out the EU guards against that, regardless of how much the Tories want to sell it off.  

I can't see the death penalty ever being in force in the UK again, there was a reason why it was got rid of in the first place.  If there was a fail safe way to prove guilt 100% there are occasions when I don't think the death penalty is a bad move.

The majority of people in this country support the death penalty.

It's an extremely populist policy which UKIP could easily include which would be garner lots of support in areas where they did very well last week.

Could be a runner as you hear calls for it all the time, especially if he gets ideal conditions (big case where its hard for someone to argue they dont deserve it).

The majority knows its unviable though? So you could strengthen a core support but ultimately it would never happen.

In before unless they give us a referendum.

[PokerBroker]

Keith, I really think you're panic is over exagerrated.  I can't see a situation were UKIP get over 25 seats.  

Further, we are not going to have guns legalised in this country anytime soon.  The Biggest threat to NHS privatisation was TTIP, being out the EU guards against that, regardless of how much the Tories want to sell it off.  

I can't see the death penalty ever being in force in the UK again, there was a reason why it was got rid of in the first place.  If there was a fail safe way to prove guilt 100% there are occasions when I don't think the death penalty is a bad move.

The majority of people in this country support the death penalty.

It's an extremely populist policy which UKIP could easily include which would be garner lots of support in areas where they did very well last week.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32061822

This would suggest differently.  I don't know that the death penalty would act as a deterrent but I'd be happy to see it used for Rapists and Paedos and of course murder were there is irrefutable evidence.  The problem is, I don't have enough confidence in the cops for this never to go wrong.  

[RED-DOG]

Is knowledge knowing that a tomato is a fruit but wisdom knowing not to put it in the fruit salad?

No. Knowledge is knowing when someone is trolling but wisdom is knowing not to argue with them.

You troll me relentlessly despite me asking you politely on more than one occasion to ignore my posts.

I have no idea why I annoy you so much, but I am not going to change my outlook on life just to please you.

I don't know why you assume I was referring to you, but there's a simple solution, just ignore my posts.

I dunno, maybe "Oh, sorry, I thought we were having a serious discussion. I'll leave you to it." made me think you were referring to me.

Well maybe I thought "My definition of thick is someone who votes in a referendum for something which is clearly against his and his families best interest" was not a serious answer.


Just for clarity, (although I'm sure I've said this before) this is a public forum, I have absolutely no intention of ignoring your posts, If I have an opposite opinion to yours I will post it, if I have a question for you, I will ask it.

I have no problem with people who disagree with me. DungBeetle and RickBFA couldn't have be much more polar opposite with their views on politics. Yet my interaction with them always manages to be cordial yet robust.

You seem to always want to make sly little personal digs. As I said earlier I don't know why you do it.

You drove me off the forum once for 6 months, but I came to realise how much I enjoyed posting here, so I won't let you do it again.

That's just not true though. We had differing opinions. As far as I can remember you said old people shouldn't be allowed to vote and I didn't agree with you. You couldn't get your own way so you sulked for 6 months.

If I'm wrong please link me to what ever it is you are referring to and I will look at it again and re evaluate.

See, there you go again, with an unnecessary personal dig.

Maybe it's just your posting style and you don't realise you are doing it.

You said I drove you off the forum for 6 months. I think that qualifies a personal attack and warrants a robust reply.

However, I'm not so conceited as to think I couldn't be wrong so I will invite you once again to link me to what ever it is you are referring to and I will look at it again and re evaluate.

I think this is the sentence Keith takes exception to. I would too in the circumstances.

If you were me, would you also take exception to the comments that I have emboldened?

It was a statement of fact that you drove me off the forum for 6 months.

I felt if you weren't a mod your post would have been deleted and I didn't feel like posting on a forum where members were treated differently depending on who they were.

I changed my mind after a while and vowed to ignore you instead. Which as you can see, I'm not doing very successfully!

I resent and strongly disagree with this statement.  Shame on you for calling the integrity of the other mods into question.


I invite you again to show me what I said to drive you from the forum because I suspect I just argued against what you posted.

[JohnCharver]

Can you lads take it elsewhere/stop quoting all the convo. Has zero to do with thread anymore.

[PokerBroker]

Can you lads take it elsewhere/stop quoting all the convo. Has zero to do with thread anymore.

+ 1.  But is seems the moderator does this often on different threads. 

[JohnCharver]

pokerbroker do you think your line of work will be improved/hindered by brexit? Will less buying/selling be outweighed by people needing more help to get a mortgage etc. Would people needing more serious help to get a mortgage outweigh less transactions?

[RED-DOG]

Can you lads take it elsewhere/stop quoting all the convo. Has zero to do with thread anymore.

+ 1.  But is seems the moderator does this often on different threads. 

Quote a conversation? Moi?