The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

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detailed and fascinating

By Wednesday, Boris Johnson must decide on his Brexit plan. Here’s the latest on the competing options being discussed in the Johnson camp

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9545736/boris-johnson-which-way-brexit-negotiations/

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There is no such things as ‘no deal,” as Parris and Rory Stewart  remind us. Can journalists find a clearer term, so that voters are left in no doubt?

A “Crash out Brexit?”

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Inviting a largely uninformed public to make a judgement on something as unfathomably complex as EU membership was "akin to asking a six-year-old to perform brain surgery – with a crayon". Article by Otto English

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-theresa-may-leave-voters-remain-eu-referendum-campaign-deal-a8740526.html

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Swinford (dep pol ed of the Times) reports

1 20 Tory MPs, including ministers, are prepared to vote down a Boris Johnson govt to stop no deal

Here’s one minister:

‘We will be out of Govt but that's preferable to a no-deal Brexit

‘He will be out in 10 weeks. It's country before a party that has been hijacked by f*******’

2 "I’m told Philip Hammond, who hasn’t ruled out voting down Johnson govt, has been in talks with SNP about measures to stop no deal

He’s spoken repeatedly to Ian Blackford, including this week over prorogation

Suggestions he hosted Blackford in Commons office earlier this month"

3 and the counterpoint

Iain Duncan Smith, Boris Johnson's campaign manager, hits back at Tory MPs threatening to vote down Govt to stop no deal:

‘They are utterly deluded

‘How can they possibly think the risk of an anti-Semitic, Marxist Government is outweighed by risk of our departure from the EU?’

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 ‘Mad in England: How Boris Johnson incites his compatriots against Europe.’

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Marina's bit on the week before Bozzymandias, king of kings

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/19/held-captive-by-his-carers-for-four-weeks-lets-look-at-boris-johnsons-best-bits

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"The mandate passed to Johnson is already second-hand and ragged". Brexit a "legislative odyssey".

Read. Savour the quality of the writing. Or don't.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/18/commons-vote-boris-johnson-brexit-democracy

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Margot James says in her resignation letter that is seems “quite incredible” to her that colleagues would be prepared to leave with No Deal when it goes against virtually every bis org representing all sectors of economy, the BoE, TU, scientific community

https://twitter.com/margot_james_mp/status/1152212402626334720?s=20

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A snap election is a safer bet for Boris Johnson than a second referendum, so it's probably time to strap ourselves in ahead of an autumn general election, says Robert Peston

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/07/were-heading-for-an-autumn-election/

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A no deal Brexit would not be a 'clean' Brexit. Read Menon's piece on why simply walking away is more complicated than you might think:

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/a-no-deal-brexit-would-not-be-a-clean-brexit/

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More from Foster

"Am thinking of ways to explain why johnson's plan of just paying for a 'standstill' transition while ditching the Withdrawal Agreement is nuts. It's nonsense. Here's what I came up with.."

https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1152203782475911168?s=20

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and i will end with a different one

a longer term perspective from the LSE

"The New Right: how a Frenchman born 150 years ago inspired the extreme nationalism behind Brexit and Donald Trump"

https://twitter.com/lsebrexitvote/status/1152153381919756288?s=20

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That's two days worth of bookmarks dumped. Will take days to read it all but mixed and varied views given for you.

As I write Hammond confirms on Marr that he will resign after May's final PMQ's on Wednesday. Gauke has already resigned

then all eyes on Boris' cabinet, and first moves to the EU and how they are received

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Thanks for all these, Tighty.

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Just uncomfortable with how the rhetoric for remain continues to be presented

That picture of Boris, Mad, Stupid, People deciding is like children performing brain surgery with crayons etc

If we look back at my previous point, when did the people ever opt into this hugely complex situation with every implication clearly presented? We have been hoodwinked into an ever evolving German influenced system that encroaches into any semblance of the original agreement. The first time we get a say we express our will and it’s insult after insults. All very moody.

An equally significant development is a British tanker is now seized because we were upholding EU sanctions. Where is the super supportive rhetoric delivered with equal passion? Perhaps outside of EU we won’t have the motivation or funding to continue playing global sheriff. Might make UK a safer place for our people.