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Pretty obvious that Spurs have been busiest club so far both in the sense of completed transfers and rumours. Dos Santos and Modric signed up with rumours of Gomes, Veloso, Bentley and Garcia.

Today Man City agreed a fee of £19m for Jo from CSKA Moskow - not too sure about that one, anyone seen much of him?

And Bolton seem to have paid £10m for Swedish striker Elmander, seems a bit pricey to me.

Any other significant done deals or speculation?

I remember when a £1m transfer was huge news.

Now clubs are paying £19m for players I've never heard of.

EDIT: - but obviously someone whoever is managing Sunderland in the SM game has heard of - good buy.

That's LeKnave but I think Rich or Horneris will be claiming the credit as chief scouts.

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Gomes a done deal for Spurs...Jo going to Man City (very good signing)..

Is Gomes any good? TBH I don't watch much of Eredivisie but he has impressive stats whilst at PSV.

Norwich have signed Sammy Clingan and Wes Hollahan, the championship clubs must be crapping themselves, sigh. We also managed to miss out on player, who signed for Barnsley, Ian hume from Leicester, any good tighty?

It will be a minor miracle if we finish top half next year. We have got progressively worse every year for 5 season now.

Few bits of news today.

Sevilla turned down a bid from Spurs for Diego Capel. He's meant to have a release clause in his contract but Sevilla are claiming that it only valid if it is a Spanish club that bid.

Isaksson linked with boldie's PSV.

Wigan sign De Ridder from Birmingham.

Ben Sahar has joined Pompey on loan from Chelsea, seemingly a future star.

Any rumours in today's papers?

Yes..Spurs will have a good one in him, we shall miss him at PSV.

Isakkson coming to PSV appears to be a done deal as well, if you believe the papers..don't really know anything about him though.

Swedish No.1 for a couple of seasons but only Man.C.'s No.3 behind Hart and Smichel(sp)

happy to have him if he's half decent..seems a choice between him and an older Dutch goalie...

C Palace have signed Nicky Carle from Bristol City for £1 million.

Alright i know its not big news for all you Prem superstars, but for me it is a great signing.  Cant wait for the start of the season.

Agree - Isaakson is a very decent keeper.

Probably the biggest signing yet this summer.

Leeds sign Alan Sheehan from Leicester on an undisclosed deal.

shipppppppppppppp

Sky Sports breaking news - Newcastle sign Jonas Gutierrez from Mallorca. No fee stated as of yet.

According to our fans sight he's invoked the uefa rule of buying out his own contract so there's not a transfer fee however man city had an offer of £7 million turned down with sven in charge so could be good bit of business for us

Spurs in for CAPEL

Isaksson deal to PSV is done.

Keane to go to Liverpool?

LOL How funny would it be if spurs lost both keane and berbatov then there 2 very slight framed midfielders struggle with life in the prem add that to the fact  king and woodgate are the 2 biggest sicknotes in the prem and it's another year of struggle for the whl boys.Ship the money to me know if u want Nem  :)up

See Dani Alves has signed for Barcelona for 22million.

yeah..amazing amount of money...but their wage bill is cut a fair bit now of course.

Apparently Arshavin is on his way to Chelsea. He has agreed everything and will be in London at the weekend to sign.

He's a decnt player, but i'll reserve an opinion until i see the fee...  He had 2 decent games at the Euros, was suspended for two, and was nowhere to be seen in the important Spain game... St Petersburg will be pleased with the extra £ they get though on the back of 2 games...

No doubt he looks a good player, but we will have to wait til Xmas before we decide I think.

Agreed, infact I would go even further and say its 18 months before you see the best of most foreign players in the Prem... 12 months is the minimum judgement time IMO

unless your names gianfranco zola of course

Better players have suffered at the hands of Puyol. Having seen Ashavin destoy Leverkusen & Bayern I think he's the business. Hope he goes to Barca though.

Torres is another, but generally they're few and far between...

I would sell him now to chelsea for £50 mil.... Seen the best of him now, one season wonder 

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I've been told, no matter what you read in the press, that both Keane and Berbatov will be playing for Spurs next season.

Kewell gone to Galatasary

It's on their website but his agent was on the radio this morning saying it wasn't finalised.

Has he gone now?

[ ] This will be popular in Leeds.
[ x ] Was offered a massive wage deal.
[ ] Will play more than 10 game this season.
[ x ] Harry likes kebabs.

Heard at 10am that is was virtually a done deal, may be incorrect tho

its a shame really,he was a great player who didnt have much luck playing at liverpool,
gl to him

Leeds fans hated him for being a greedy twat before and now this is even worse

added a few

i thought that leeds team could dominate for years, kewell,smith woodgate,viduka,ferdinand,fantastic team ,the board made a big mistake not backing oleary

[X] upper case X's work as check boxes
[  ] Longy has grasp this fact

[X] Harry Kewell was great 8 years ago.

Amusing transfer rumour in the paper today suggesting Arsenal about to splash out £25m for Marcos Senna,

Spain's defensive midfiled dynamo.

Ermmm, hes 32 next week.

Arsenal couldn't splash out £32 million for anyone as they are skint.

LOL

Credit crunch is effecting team building as they have to pay for the Death Star.

FAO dan (http://blogs.notw.co.uk/sport/2008/07/arsenal-go-for.html)

Nem,

This is how football clubs have always been running, or how they should be running. It is only in the last few years since foreign investment has come into our game that some clubs are being run more like fantasy football clubs.

 £24m outlay a year for the stadium but getting over £90m in matchday income seems very good business to me.

Last season our wage bill was rumoured to be around £80m (which I find hard to believe considering Man Utd's was £85m). So that makes around £100m outlay yet our turnover is over £200m a year. That hardly makes us skint.

I actually read this article last night and thought of you, I think Wenger is very coy when it comes to using the media when it comes to transfer dealings and if he really did think we were a selling club I dont think he would openly admit it. it would devalue your stock or players in this case. The fact this article has come from the NOTW makes me suspicious in what has been said. I have heard the Huntelaar is actually quite close to moving to Man Utd. I think he would be a good signing for anyone that has him.

Anyhow if being a selling club is getting £30m for a striker that has a terrible attitude, headbutts his own players and thinks he is as good as Henry was after just 1 season then so be it.

Wenger's "We are now a selling club" is so obviously a quote out of context I would have thought even Nemesis would see through it athough his white tinted glasses must have particularly thick lenses.

Wenger has always operated on the basis of buy cheap, get best out of player, sell for huge profit and use money to buy 3 or 4 more youngsters with potential.

It doesn't mean Arsenal are just a selling club, if journo's listened properly they'd realise Wenger was justifying why he'd sell Adebayor for the right amount not that he was saying Arsenal have to be a selling club!!

and I'm not even an Arsenal fan (do quite like the way they play though).

IMO Keane will stay at Tottenham for another season at least because in his heart he really wants to see Wolves in the Premiership and finish his career there.

Crouch agreed personal terms with Pompey.

Sad to see him leave, but glad he'll be playing week-in, week-out now.  Excellent player and he'll be a great asset for them.

Defoe and Crouch next season not a bad combo.

Yep.  A small fast forward alongside a big fella who can hold it up well and play the ball off to him.

Shame Liverpool don't have a fast striker like that or he could stay.

;D

He could do that, if Rafa played with two up top.  He much prefers Torres up on his own with Gerrard playing behind him.

The Torres/Crouch partnership didn't get a chance to develop or see if it would work.  I have a feeling it would have worked very well.

he looks good

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandar_Tunchev


there must be a catch though, as he came to Leicester


He will no doubt be crap then

yeah i agree, if only he could of got a lot more power when heading the ball, he would of been a nightmare for defences

Adjusting to the game and culture in the lower leagues is often a problem. We had a Czech striker (David Stravhika) at Norwich last year and he look totally lost, despite being top goalscorer in the Czech Rep the year before.

From the Daily Telegraph, Holland Midfielder Rafael Van der Vaart has snubbed Spurs.
"The interest has been there for some time allready, but Tottenham are not a club I want to swap Hamburg for"

 rotflmfao

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Why would anyone want to play in Germany?! Its football is in its worst possition in Europe for years and they pay the lowest wages.

The only thing good about German football is the Stadia and crowds.

lmaol

sidwell gone to villa should be a good signing for them imo

Joe Cole to Spurs?

That is a good signing imo... Barry saga goes on.. they now want supposedly... £15 Mill, + Finnan... Jesus just fkin leave him there, he will have to rot now, and then buy him in Jan, villa are taking the piss..


Good player cole, was always glad when he either was not playing or went off in games against us..

+1

I doubt it.

I hope not.

Any info or just an assumption?

Agree 100% - let them keep a player who doesnt want to be there. We'll get him for £11m in January.

I would love him at Spurs.

Read this Rumour earlier:

Ipswich are closing in on Greece striker Angelos Charisteas after agreeing a £2.25m fee with the striker's club Nuremburg.

[  ] this will happen tho
[X] read on BBC rumours part

Not an Ipswich fan or anything, but i think he would be a quality signing and would thrive in the Championship and has proved himself when confident imo.

Darren Currie to brighton weeeeeeeee

Its possible Ipswich have got a new financial backer and are likely to be pushing for the prem this upcoming season. I hope im wrong obv and they DIAGF.

Ipswich do have new money behind them, bought lumps of Sheepshanks

Good bet for play offs at least this season

Ian Holloway for Hearts Tighty?

Everyone else they've apporached has treated it like the poinsoned challenge it is, Holloway's making noises about splitting the 'old firm'.

I like him as a guy. Leicester was the ultimate poisoned chalice, why he'd want to do hearts chairman after mandaric I am not sure


coaching ability good at smaller clubs, very unproven at a "big" job

Another decent length contract with a nice payoff if he gets the boot, and not too much damage to his rep because everyone knows the chairman is a bit mental.

Tottenham are closing in on the signing of Espanyol forward Luis Garcia, BBC Sport understands.

The 27-year-old, who can play across the front line and has 24 goals in 79 games for Espanyol, could cost £8m.

The move raises questions about the futures of Dimitar Berbatov and Robbie Keane, although Spurs have yet to receive a bid for either player.

The Londoners are also hoping to break Blackburn's resolve over David Bentley and secure a deal for the winger soon.

Keane was on a list of 16 players that could leave Spurs according to the Beeb. Liverpool is interested so very strange to put him on a list that makes him cheap. I also don't get it as Keane is MUCH better than Bent is and I can't believe they don't want to keep him.

WALOB.

Keane not going anywhere.


Had to edit the Garcia bit as it is a done deal!

Keane to Liverpool ldo

Fowler Blackburn, rofl...

Srsly man how the fk have Barca managed to snap up Hleb for 11.9mil. The guy is absolute class! Then you have players like Barry where the clubs want 18mil, being English seems to add like 10 mil onto your price tag.

The Hleb signing has got to be the bargain of the season by a distance.

People said the same about Henry when he went for 16 million and Cole went he went for Gallas and 5 million.

Truth is I trust Wenger's judgement more than Guardiola's. I'm sure most Arsenal fans do as well.

I really dont know...i think he's dropped a massive boo boo here. In todays market hough, dont you think he has gone for a lot less than he should have gone for?

How much did he buy him for? Must be a decent return. Hleb is a quality footballer but what is his best position - I don't think its out left where I think he played most of last season. I'd sooner have Van Persie than Hleb for the second striker, far more girls goals and just as much other productivity.

Hleb ws bought for over £10m so not a huge profit.

If he'd been sold for £15-16m I dont think there'd be one complaint knowing how Wenger probably already has someone lined up. But yes £11.9m is a bit cheap for a club the size of Barca.

Hleb is an excellent signing for Bartha imo.

he is a quality signing for barca! as an arsenal fan i feel he was arsenals 2nd best player of the season after flamini and now the club have let both go its abs unbelievable!!!! i felt that even b4 hleb left we needed another winger and now we possibly need 2 more! and seems gilberto is going to panathanikos so we will need a CM aswell! i herd wenger is in for barry but at he is reported to be worth £18M! if that is true then it is bad business by AW not to atleast make enough money for that bid through Hleb

Yeah he was bought for about the same amount he was sold for....to compare him to Henry's situations a bit harsh, Henry was coming to the end of his career, Hleb is at the peak of his. If Wenger is after Alonso for the reported 14mil then that is not good business imo. Being a Liverpool fan i would much rather have Hleb than Xabi. People are talking about Nasri being a ready made replacement, he is not. Seen him a play quiete a few times, dont get me wrong hes a very good player but he's no Hleb. I dont know, maybe im just really shocked that my favourite premiership player has left for such a cheap price when you have players half as good as him going for double the price. He reminded me a lot of Zidane(obv no one is as good the great man), touch was immense and the ability to drift pass players just wow. He will be massive at Barca, him and Messi in the same team just wowzer!

he could be great at barca but part of me thinks its a stupid move on his behalf! i mean there are only so many midfielders u can have in one team and barca currently have yaya toure(who i think wenger should have brought in a swap deal) iniesta Xavi messi bojan keita crosas and others who play in that position so i think the number of games that he will get this season will be a lot less than wat he is expecting!

Hleb - good in europe, average premiership player

I know it and Wenger knows it

Hleb is amazingly talented and one of the best Arsenal have..Arsenal don't seem to be doing the best of business when selling players..I thought 16mill for Henry wasn't enough but OK he's 30...I am stunned at this one though.

obv as an arsenal fan i get upset when people leave but to be honest, and this might sound a bit wierd, with the exception of one or 2, players in general have not done well since leaving arsenal!

Hleb = £12M
Alonso = £14M
Barry = £18M

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henry= £16M
Bent = £16M

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i can understand Barry cuz all english players are overpriced now and they will be even more overpriced if that stupid 6+5 rule comes in but Alonso for £14M is unbelievable!

Alonso for 14 mil is aout right IMO. Hleb left a little cheaply bu I dont see Alonso as expensive.

Not compared to Carrick/Hargreaves/Mascherano/Mikel/Essien who were all more expensive.

£12 million for Hleb doesn't sound a lot but only 11 goals in 129 appearances is not a good record for an attacking midfielder when both Pires & Ljundberg used to score at least 11 a season each. Added to the fact that he's now 27 and slightly injury prone probably makes the price about right. Unfortunately Wenger seems to only want to buy potential players and not established players and this will surely hinder Arsenal's chances this season especially if either or both of Gilberto & Adebayor make their way through the exit door.

i really wouldnt mind if adebayor goes.... i really dont like that guy!!!

Preferably Eboue 1st though.

i was discussing this with another arsenal fan a while ago and we decided the 3 players we wudnt mind going where Adebayor, Eboue(even if for free) and Diaby! Flushy has watched a fair few arsenal games at my house(never again tho) and he will testify how much i hate those 3.... much to toby's dissappointment lol

Does anyone like Eboue?

eboue's mum doesnt like eboue

Bent is 23 years old. Henry is a injury prone 30 year old.

Bent isn't half the player Henry was in his prime, but Henry was in his prime a few years ago...

FYP

Nem what do you think the chances are of spurs selling Keane, Berb and Bent?

Who do you think you will bring in to replace him/them

the price for Bent was probably about right. he was the top scoring English player the previous year playing in a decidedly average team and unlike exensive imports wouldn't need time to aclimatise to the prem. he was also I believe only 22.

with hindsight it wasn't worth it but I don't think many thought the valuation was too far out at the time.
in fact at the time of his move half the country were still saying he should've gone to the world cup, something which would only have pushed the price higher.

Really, I thought he was massively overpriced at the time and was worth about half the price.

In fact i don't think he has been that awful at Spurs they just never play him as they have better strikers than him.

He might get a game this season, cos it deffo looks like Berb is off.

orly.

so what price would you put on a 22 England international striker who is the 3rd top scorer in the prem?

8m. Need to score goals over more than one season for me. You'd be lucky to get 8m for him now, which is a pretty impressive devaluation.

Andy Johnson =7.5 million, scored alot of goals for Palace and was still relatively young.

James Beattie = 6mill scored alot of goals at soton.

Dean Ashton = 7 million, scored quite a few goals at Norwich and was younger than bent at time of sale.

Henry 11.5 mil after scoring few goals at Juventus.

Torres 20 mil after scoring a few goals at Atletico.

By the goals they scored both of these players were very over priced.

if bent scores 20 goals next season every1 will  forget how bad he was last season.

Big if but its possible!!

David Villa, Arshavin, Eto'o and finally Santa Cruz.

ManU have offered £20m + either O'shea or Brown for Berbatov

Also, as for Bent, his transfer fee was paid using the monies raised from selling Mido to 'boro and Defoe to Pompey.

Mido was never going to get into the team cos of Berbs and the same with Defoe< Keane. Defoe would have had 1 year left on his contract from now and we wanted to sell him last summer as he was never going to sign an extension.

So we got a very good deal. You check out Bents goals/shot/minutes ratio last season and I'm sure he was our best striker...




In other news Pablo Aimar has subbed Keegan's revolution and signed for Benfica rotflmfao.

So do you think 1, 2 or 3 of the strikers will leave?

Do you think you could sign 2 of the strikers you listed?

Meh I do not know. A lot has been said about Eto'o and his fitness/attitude problems, but he is still the bollocks and I read he scored 18 goals in 20 games last season.

I do not rate Keane too highly. I wouldn't mind him going to Liverpool for £15m+, keep Berbs and buy one of the 3 mentioned.

Some big transfers will be happening within the next 7 days...

Have just seen that Sunderland have made bids for 4 spurs players

Steed Malbranque, Pascal Chimbonda, Younes Kaboul and Teemu Tainio are the men reportedly wanted by Black Cats boss Roy Keane.

All four of the players figured under Juande Ramos at White Hart Lane, with Malbranque and Chimbonda particularly prominent figures.

Yeah the 3 ^^ are definitely going. Dunno about Kaboul though.

I've heard that the Keane to Liverpool is a done deal.

(However, I've heard about other done deals before as well that haven't materialised.  This source is a reliable one though).

Unlucky mate.

He's a decent player, and proven in the Premiership.  Just not sure how many games he'll get, or if he'll be Torres' understudy and spend a lot of time on the bench.

No, no, maybe but doubtful and no! Stop defiliing the good players of world football! ;)

I have a feeling he'll play the traditional number 7 role and Gerrard will move back to the box to box midfielder he should be.

Don't get me wrong I love Gerrard's goals up top, but I'd rather have him dominate games in the middle.

Again its another good-to-average signing, like Barry would be a good-to-average signing...  Neither of these will help Liverpool win the league, we'll finish 3rd/4th, again... I'm as pessimisstic about this season as i have been for a while, i cant see anything changing from the last 3 years, i really cant...

On the flip side, I dont blame Rafa or anyone at Liverpool, I just think its virtually impossible to catch Utd or Chelsea unless we spend £200mil and they spend nothing...

An even financial footing with Man U would make it interesting at the very least! Imagine Rafa had the money to spend he had last summer? 40 odd million. We'd be looking at Aguero/Villa not Keane. Silva not Riera.

Except for his first season in England where he got it wrong a few times, I cannot moan about Rafa in the transfer market though. For the budget he's generally had since he's been at the club the squad has improved no end. Usually by one or two very good players a season as that's what we can afford. Now that the foundations are in place, we can do what would be normally a daft thing, like blow a summer's budget on one or two players as the squad doesn't need a huge overhaul.

So far this summer we are in profit by about £5 million or so even after bringing in two attacking full-backs. I expect that profit and Rafa's kitty to go on just two players. I'd really prefer that than adjusting the whole squad again.

Keane a prolific scorer? I do hope the 'other spurs striker' goes to Man uTd tho :)

He knows where the net is. To play off Torres you dont have to be prolific though. Just hard working and clever. Keane is both.

But if those '2' players are Keane and Barry we'll be 4th again!

In Barry I agree with you. I wouldn't tinker with our central midfield. Keane would be an excellent signing for us though. Not only in where Gerrard would play but also in what Keane would bring.

The Keane/Berba partnership was 2nd most successful last year?

Quite probably...

I dont doubt Keane is a good player and will improve what we have, but he's not going to improve it enough for us to challenge for the league...

And i dont say that in a way that i hope we'd sign someone else instead, i just dont think ANY 2 players that are in our budget will make a big difference...

If you mean a title winning difference then I aree with you. But if they improve us enough this year (say to with 3-5 points of the title), then blowing all of next summer's budget on two more might be enough.

All I'm saying is, for the money we have, we're getting there.

Thats exactly it, we are improving, but so are Chelsea, and definately Utd, so i dont think were getting any closer to them if you get me...

TBH with the possible departures of Ronaldo, Lampard, Drogba and potentially dodgy signings like Deco I'm not too worried what the others are doing. If we improve in top 4 matches we'll compete.

If we'd beaten Man U twice last year we'd be six points better off and they'd be six worse off. We then finish above them I think? (I'm not sure) Now I'm not saying that's possible this year, especially if Keane and Barry are our signings, but we didn't even turn up in those games last year. I agree with Carra, we need to compete first. Contemplate winning later.

If we signed no one else this summer I'd expect us to go closer than we did last year. That'd be down to some improvement on our part and hopefully some decline in the big two. Throw Keane into the mix and I dont see why we cant go closer. He's not the ideal signing by any means. But he'll definately improve what we have.

I dont think it's light years between us and the top two, despite what the press, pundits and general consensus may try to make me believe.

A good example is Arsenal. Last summer they sold Henry and bought Eduardo. People expected them to finish 5th. 3 players who'd been there over 2 years each all improved greatly to enhance the team moreso than any new signing. Of course I'm talking about Flamini (4 years there), Hleb (2 or 3 years there) and Adebayor (2 or 3 years there). I expect the same from Babel, Agger, Mascherano, Arbeloa, Aurelio and Skrtel. There are 3-4 players in that list who are potentially world class. If the new signings improve us too we'll be giving it a good go.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/7513117.stm


Just a matter of time before they bag him.

yeah i agree, watching liverpools 2 friendlys over the last week Voronin could be the surprise for me this season,you can see hes ready to take his chance now Crouch has gone, he was hard working last season but has impressed me more this week than he did the whole of last season

Voronin is not premiership quality    FACT

i would of agreed 100% last week booder, and still not saying he is a class player,but
he looked a diifferent player who could surprise,hope so anyway

Yes sorry to say the other half is big Man Utd fan and even I prefer them to win the league than Chelsea or Arse.

Gutted, not more than 14 stone i hope?

Surprised Carson has only gone for £3.25mil...

ditto

Crystal Palace have signed Calvin Andrew from Luton, for a fee that Neil Warnock says is well short of 6 figures.

Glad we are splashing the cash  ::)

I believe Luton players have been told that they can rip up their contracts and pretty much just play week to week for the club .... all due to the huge deduction of points which realistically will see luton in non league football next year

just an interesting thing to think abt! ive stated mine on here already but which 3 players would u happily evict from your team and which 3 (realistically based on your budget and league pos/ambission etc) would you like to replace them?

£3.25 rising to £4m. Add this to his loan stints at 2 X £2 million and you get 8 mil for a player bought for 750,000. Not bad even though the end fee is a little low.

I think he'd do ok at a mid table club. His link up play is pretty good. But he offers NOTHING that Kuyt doesn't already give. We should sell him, but on our budget we wont.

Is John Bostock any good?

Lee Naylor gone to Sunderland for £2mil ..

Genuinely hope he finds form again gl..

John Bostock has the potential to go as far as he wants in the world of football.
I have watched a hell of a lot of football over the years, and never have i seen someone of his age as confident and comfortable on the ball (i include people like Paul Gascoigne) and he has so much ability.
But, i fear that his head may be screwed up by people around him, especially certain family members.  he is a very religious young man, but my understanding of the whole situation involving Palace and Spurs is that his father has done him no favours at all.

Being a Palace fan i feel that he has let the club down immensely, wont go into details, i did that in Tighty's diary.  My own personal hope is that he never gets the opportunity to play in the first team at Spurs and ends up as an average player, not the world class player that he could end up as.

i thought we would sell him at the end of last season, he is not in the same class as Kuyt , but answering your post ,yeah i do think a few players are capable of improvement this season,i never thought Voronin was good enough for liverpool, he still may not be, but he played well last week, so i would just give him another chance for now,if he plays the same as last season, have to get shut.

I think the end fee fits his class. I've been banging on about him since the England U21 game v Germany when he dropped a bollock in the last minute - he makes David James like mistakes without as much of an upside to balance it out. 2m to loan that for a year?! someone should be sacked for that at villa.

Any1 got any opinion on either of the 2 egyptians to come to the England in the last week? its emad motaeb for bristol and amr zaki for wigan! as an egyptian i obv have my view and i feel it is biased so want to c what every1else thinks of them b4 i share my view

Does anyone know how much Newcastle paid Liverpool for Danny Guthrie?

Guthrie signed for Newcastle on 11 July 2008 for an undisclosed fee, believed to be in the region of £2.5m, says Wikipedia.

Did you watch him at all at Villa last year or Charlton the year before?

He's made what, 3 mistakes in his life? Two of which were when he was not playing regular football and thrown into a big match. Hardly Paul Robinson or David James.

Sunderland have had a £23m bid for Younes Kaboul, Pascal Chimbonda, Steed Malbranque and Teemu Tainio accepted by Tottenham. (Various)

However, the deal could be jeopardised after Kaboul's agent said his client would not join Sunderland "even if there was an earthquake".

LMAO

[X] Kaboul is top man lol

The figure "£23million" really is LOL.

There's an egyptian at boro, with Mido, don't know his name, haven't seen him play - he is supposed to be one of the top egyptian players... might say it all? I don't know.

I agree, should be like 17m at most.

Value Chimbonda at like 6m, Kaboul and Malbranque 4-5 mill and Tainio about 3m.

Crazy figure imo. I wouldn't give chimbonda house room he's the player i most hate in the prem he's a jerk(could think of a lot worse to describe him).PLEASE PLEASE GO TO EVERTON AND NOT HERE I REALLY CAN'T STAND HIM

I've also seen the figure 14m for those four mind. Probably be somewhere in the middle.

I'd love Sunderland to get Karbul. He's an absolute donkey, and worse still seems absolutely oblivious to that - he needs to get wherever will offer him a four of five year deal, whether it be Sunderland, Timbuktu, Kobe or somewhere along the San Andreas fault..

Why?

Surely Eboue, Savage, Arsenal, Barton, Chelsea, Boa Morrte are all above him?

The way he handed in his transfer request at wigan was a disgrace,his general on field behaviour is disgusting.

No,No,No i'm not a spurs fan so can respect the football they play,suppose he's on a par with him,no,and no although he is also a mug

ya his name is mohamed shawky! he is a class holding midfielder... pretty much won the african cup for us when he stopped the attack of ivory coast and that! Amr Zaki the wigan  guy is a decet forward but i dont think he will work with hesky,.. Moteb on the other hand is not soo good...

Carlos Villanueva - signs for Blackburn. Hopefully he is good, we've needed a creative centre mid for a while - Dunn isn't good enough.

Seemingly Ince was enquiring about Mauro Zarate when he was told about this guy.

He's owned by a 3rd party middle east consortium and they want £20million for him.

I heard Zarate has gone to Lazio?

not too sure though.

Heard the same

confirmed

http://www.football.co.uk/lazio/lazio_wrap_up_zarate_deal_267565.shtml

Please not Steed Malbranque  - the very last thing we need is a left or right sided midfielder.

Left back
Centre back
Central Midfielder (maybe x2)
New Mark Viduka.

From what i understand Kaboul is about to sign for sunderland! is this true? and how will that go down with fans after wat he/his agent said?

agreed Baron, in his season at Charlton I believe the number of mistakes he made was zero. by a long, long way the best keeper I've ever seen at the valley, always looked international standard

Yuck, Blackburn have accepted a £2m bid for Friedel. God knows who we are going to replace him with.

(http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2006/10/25/PaulRobinson128.jpg)

I know very strange! One of the best in the prem.

But £2mil must be one of the highest ever fees for a 37 year old?

We've signed Boumsong's cousin. Sack Benitez by default.

He cant be any worse than him...   How can you say them words Baron, even in jest

A dark sense of humour I guess. I'm 100% behind Benitez - you know this.

The more he does in the transfer market the more I am very impressed. His return on players he's bought is excellent and the team has got stronger year on year. You'll not find a bigger fan than me.

(But seriously Boumsong's cousin!!!!!!!)

 rotflmfao


Yes I do   :)up

Unless Ince has got someone special lined up I suspect this could cost Blackburn more than £2mil and if it's Villa he ends up at I think it will prove to be £2mil very well spenty by them. If Bentley and SantaCruz follow him out the exit door Blackburn will be in for a very difficult season.

lol at Arshavin saying

Early summer: "my heart is set on barca"

Mid summer: "i would welcome a move to Arsenal"

now: "i am tempted by tottenham"

wat next?

newcastle

rotflmfao

£3.5mil seems like a good buy for Blackburn

Tottenham Hotspur forward Robbie Keane is set to complete an £18m transfer to Liverpool within the next 48 hours.


Tottenham have accepted a bid of around £3m from Blackburn Rovers for their goalkeeper Paul Robinson.

forget that

Jack Hobbs from Liverpool to Leicester on season loan

Ship!!!!

That is a good deal for spurs imo (the keane deal).I rate robbie keane but i dont think he's at that level to be playing for a title winning side which is what the scousers are striving for.

PS Jack hobbs is supposed to be a great young player nice signing for your boys

PPS Jizzemm he's not good enough for the toon m8 spurs can have him  ;),Seriously though how come nodoby had even heard of him til now yet he's 27 whats that about?

Quality player...

we'll ruin him

sorry to Liverpool in advance

see him tomorrow at Kettering!

Excellant news.

I also read Norwich are interested in Steve Howard. I'll pay for a taxi for him.

Oh ffs.

When i say quality player i really mean ''has the potential to be an England international if he keeps his feet on the ground, but has a lot to prove especially as his career is at a pivotal point and age where he games, consistency, and the right nurturing and coaching''

I'll push the taxi there.


Half hearted donkey.

Thats a bit harsh, i mean paying is not quite up there with pushing, but its still a generous offer...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/blackburn_rovers/7526434.stm

Spurs could potentially ship out a whole XI 1st team players, surely no matter how good the signings it will be tough with so many different faces

Robinson
Chimbonda
Dawson
Gardener
Kaboul
Malbranque
Boateng
Ghaly
Tainio
Keane
Bertatov

FYP

Only the two strikers and Steed are 1st team regulars and Steed was playing oop and we've replaced him with Modric.

If Berbatov goes as well, I'm pretty sure that we will have a decent replacement in the wings (Villa, Eto'o, Pavlyuchenko).

As for Keane, I'm not too fussed. Anything over £10million for him is good business for Spurs and Bent is a ready replacement.

Surely Villa wouldn't go to Spurs, if he was moving to England it would surely only be to one of the big 4.

I dont think you can replace a player like Keane for under £10m in today's game. £18 mil is too high. I think £13-14 mil is a fair price.

well i am worried where goals will come from if Keane AND berbatov both go ... which incidently i believe they both will go.

Very true - however Ramos is way too good not to have replacements lined up.

agreed but from where ... not from here, players from other countries need time to adjust to our game ... Bent aside actually included), we are going to struggle up front early season.

Maybe Milito from Zaragoza.

Kaboul looks like he will be here at Pompey next season ... i dont think he really fancied a move to the North East.

Anthony Gardner is going on loan to Hull ..  its gonna be an unfamiliar starting line up for spurs come the forst game of the season !

Did you read my post on the previous page? :) The players' we've sold rarely played for us, apart from the strikers and Steed.

Did you read mine ?  Its the front line going that i am bothered about.

LOL @ The red tops even contemplating that Levy would sell Kaboul for a £5.5 million loss after one season. Don't they realise that Levy is a Jew with a 1st class Economics degree from Cambridge Unversity! ;)

gomes
Bale
woodgate
king
hutton
dos santos
jenas
modric
bentley
bent
XXXXXXX

FYP

I think that Bentley is way too expensive and hopefully the Spurs board feel the same way.

Gotta say on paper that looks an immense team. Intersting to see how they all gel.

Robinson       -  37 games
Chimbonda    -  49
Gardener      -  6
Kaboul         -  29
Lee        -  30
Malbranque   -  55
Boateng       -  21
Ghaly          -  0
Tainio          -  ?
Keane         -  54
Bertatov      -  52

A few more than rarely making appearances. I think an overhaul of half of a squad (it might only be 25% with Tottenham's squad size!) is going to have an effect even if they did all very rarely play. It doesn't neccessiarily mean they'll struggle in the early and mid season, but it gives them a good chance of doing it!


What are the odds of that team starting more than 10 PL games this season? Close to 0 surely?

At least there are movements at your club though!!!

'but football is played on grass'. Bobby Robson, 2003.

Barcelona, AC Milan, Newcastle and Manchester City are all chasing Berbatov too.

SSSSWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT !!!!!!

BERBA IS A GEORDIE, BERBA IS A GEORDIE LALALALALALALALALA TOON  :)up

The maccams have signed diouf pending a medical today for £2.5mil.Males sense really seen as diouf's scum and ...

I know this.

Your stats above prove my point for me. Only Keane, Berbatov and Malbranque are/were 1st team members' i.e would play every game if fit. The others' are/were just squad players'. Chimbonda only played 49 games due to Hutton coming in January and also Bale and BAE not being fit.

Surely Robinson was 1st choice for most of the season

He was until Ramos realised he was shit. (which was 2 months into his reign.)

Squad players will be what makes the difference to you lot being 5th or 9th. There a a decent number of minutes on the pitch to be covered from those that have left. I think you have to build in that you'll have injury's - particulary at CB and you must be v thin there with two more gone (though I guess Gardner can be brought back from loan).

It should be an interesting couple of weeks all round in the transfer market - unless clubs have blown the Tv money last year.

Also Dave, Keane is at Liverpool today with his agent finalizing his transfer.

Gardner is going to Hull City. I am very disappointed that Kaboul is beng sold as he has huge potential. Donkey Dawson is still here which isn't good for us imo.

I thought he was only going to Hull on loan. Hopefully Dawson will be staying there. Seen his name in the same sentence as NUFc too many times this summer.

Keane completed by the looks of things, Barry looking doubtful though...

Andy Johnson to Fulham, interesting move if true

Liverpool are expected to complete the £18m signing of striker Robbie Keane from Tottenham within 24 hours

THIS A JOKE. HES 28!!!!!!!! HOW CAN THEY PAY 18 MILLION FOR SOMEONE SO OLD IN FOOTBALLING TERMS & someone who isnt even that good at finishing.

This could be the biggest rip-off of the summer.

ANything over 13 million is an incredibly nice hand by Spurs.

£12m is ludicrous. Great season in 2006-07, not a lot since (injuries, form)

Excellent business by Everton when it happens

Agreed

I think Keane is a bargain for £18mil. I love him as a footballer he's soooooo good and brings people into the game. Intelligent player.

Everton sign Johnson for 8.6 as a gamble. Pays off as he has a good season. Then he loses form and plays less and gets sold on for nearly £12million???

I'd rather have Anichebe (sp)!

LoL @ 18m being a bargain for someone who is close to retirement.

I think there are less than 10 players over 28 years old in the world that could be considered a bargain at 18m & Robbie Keane isnt one of them.

How much could Liverpool get for him in 3 years time as a 31 year old. No more than 5m ldo.

I get the point about age but it's hardly retirement age!
With age comes experience! Inter Milan paid £13mil and Leeds paid £12 mil for him and think how much a better player he is now compared to then.

I don't think they're trying to get the money back in transfer fees in 3 years time i reckon the aim is to get it back by winning another champions league, winning a domestic cup each season or becoming a top 2 side rather than just a top 4 team. With the new TV deal each position in the premiership is worth a lot more.

I suppose it depends what you compare it to.
18mil for Keane or £12 for Johnson = Bargain

Yeah, thats a fair point.

I guess i have a biased view aswell as i saw him every week at Leeds when he was with us, and he wasnt that good.

He would miss most chances and i dont think i ever saw him score a 1 on 1 oppourtunity. But hes obv improved since then to net 23 goals last year for Spurs.

Still too old tho!  ;)

I don't think liverpool are signing Robbie Keane with the intention of selling him in 3 years for a profit , he has been bought to form a lethal partnership with torres and i think it will be,  with Keane playing just behind torres i think they will have Keane's creativity and craft and torres scorching pace and finishing .Rather formidable dint you think ?

£18M is a lot, and is being financed by the sales of Crouch, Riise and Carson.

He's definitely proven in the Premiership, and is a clever player who works - which is what Rafa likes.  He has a tasty missus too.

My only concern is how Rafa is going to use Torres, Keane and Gerrard in the side.  I'd assume that all three are going to be starting when fit - so it'll be interesting how Rafa sets the side up.  I hope he doesn't play Keane out wide...

Gerrard wide then?

I think without a doubt Gerrard will go back to being a "box to box" player. Although he's great going forward I feel as though we missed some midfield control last season.

Keane is a very good buy for us. Maybe a little on the steep side but potentially the perfect foil for Torres and proven in the premiership unlike Aguero, Diego, Riquelme type other link up players/second strikers. This type of player is usually a luxury player too, ie one who wont work at all off the ball. This just wont cut it under Benitez. Keane is almost perfect for Benitez and very good for Liverpool. Most importantly he's a proven EPL player and allows Gerrard to return to where he should be.

I think:

                     Reina
Def        Def            Def          Def

            Alonso       Mash

Winger          Gerrard           Winger

                   Torres

Is not as good as:

                       Reina

Def        Def                  Def           Def

Winger   Mash/Alonso      Gerrard      Winger

               Keane
                            Torres

Especially at home. There's more in the midfield and potentially much more up front.

Listen ... you mugs will be better off With Keane than we will be without him ... I am really pissed off at the sale of Keane and Berba, Even allowing for the fact that 18 mill is a very very top end price.

Agree with all of that.

Well when a big club comes calling......

PS Bent ftw xx

I suspect Liverpool will play 3-5-2 which switches to 3-4-2-1 when they have the ball.

i.e. Gerrard and Keane in behind Torres and wing-backs.

Haven't got real wingers or out and out full backs esp. as Pennant is off to Blackburn.

Which seems reasonable with Agger, Skrtel and Carragher all far better in the middle than as Full-backs.

At home this is a good formation if he does it. Our biggest problem last season was against smaller teams playing 10 men behind the ball at Anfield.

I think Keane is a good player, admittedly I have only started to think this since last season, maybe I'm wrong maybe he has been good for a few years. I think Spurs will miss him massively, I thought Keane and Berbatov were a very good front 2 last year but I also think £18m is a ridiculous price for him. When I saw Liverpool were in for him I thought about £8m - £12m would've been his price.

I must be honest I think when Spurs sell a player they always seem to get maximum for them, I think this is one area they do very well. Carrick £16m, those mugs to Sunderland £23m(I know they all haven't gone,but they got offered that) now Keane £18m.

Compare that to some of our sales Henry £16m, Vieria £14m, Helb £12m. I just think we could have got more money for each of those players. I am not  saying that they were worth more at the time of sale but I think we couldve got more.

Spurs seem to be building a strong team for next season(although they seem to do this most years then never deliver) but if they sell Keane and Berbatov I think it may be a case of 1 step forward and 2 steps back.

Keane was the most overrated player at Spurs. The fact we got £18million for him, just goes to show that we have a great chairman.

I'm not that disappointed that Keane has left, Berbatov made him look like the top player many people perceive him as.

[  ] Nem knows what is going on at Spurs

omg, ended up @ 20.3 milliom

This has srs potential to be of the worst value signings ever.

topic will be bumped & one of the Liverpool boys will quote this when he is Premiersip top scorer next season.

FYP

[   ] Keane was the most overrated player at Spurs
[   ] Levy is a great chairman
[   ] Nemesis isn't disappointed Keane left
[   ] Berbatov made him the top player many people perceive him as

I'd love to see you bluff.  ;joestrummer;

FACT!

Honestly, having watched him countless times, he frustrates me soo much. You will realise this when he bottles every challenge, flaps his arms around like a retarded chimpanzee, and the countless strops he will show after being substituted.

[ ] gutted that he has left.

Next you be saying the other striker was shit too when he leaves :)

That will not be happening.

Berbatov is priceless imo.

Robbie Keane is prob only worth 8-10m to spurs - he could very well be worth 18m to Liverpool - on the basis of the Champions league money difference. Seems like a ggod point to do business.  Especially as in effect your looking if Keane can make the difference to liverpool's performance of his price minus the money they got for Crouch, in what is effectively a swap for a forward position in the squad.

Bent is currently destroying Norwich (i know pre season, only Norwich etc) but he looks very sharp.

Look on the bright side Nem, you will not have to watch the naffest goal celebration of all time any more at the lane.

I'm sure the fee will only go to £20.3M if liverpoo win the quadruple for the next three years anyhow :)

he looked sharp lasr pre season, if i remember rightly he scored in most of his friendly games

Yeah this is deffo conclusive proof he will have a stellar season, we are terrible and all our defenders who were in the squad last year are injured.

Sunderland are said to be tabling a £19M bid for Bent as we speak...

Sunderland are about to make bids for Hoddle, Waddle, Gazza and Mabbut

Otsemobor (Forest) looks good, he even defended a little tonight he may well make the grade.
If you think that Shackell and Doherty are the answer to Norwich's defensive issues then I fear for your season.

I don't i think we are going to really struggle this year, we are probably very good value to be relegated at 8 on betfair at the moment. Otsemobor been with us for a while, got him from Liverpool.

Sammy Clingan has been signed from Forest.

David Bell will do a job for you. Stood out on loan for us at the back end of last season amongst a load of dross. Decent signing

Mid table at best for Norwich though I reckon

Otsemobor is nicknamed Forest in the Jarrold/Barclay stands due to his "Run Forest Run" attitude.
Sadly is about the funniest chant they can come up with at City.

I hope they dont struggle but I fear where the goals will come from, and I am not sure Stanovjic (sp?) is the answer at the back?  Chadwick, Croft and Russell were all lightweight and generally poor last season - without Ched and Dion I feel the team has reduced in quality.  

I hope the loan signings and the youth do come on, I like the manager and hope he surprises with the performances he manages to drag from the team.  Time will tell I guess.

Sigh shows how out of touch i have come, don't have the motivation to troop all the way back to Norwich for games anymore.

Bent
Berbatov
Dos Santos
Lennon
Modric

+Possibly

Bentley
Veloso
Arshavin

Hmmmmm.... tasty.

The old Spurs 1-4-0-6 formation

Arshavin worth £20M if Keane isn't?

I see Norwich have got John Kennedy on loan from Celtic. He and Marshall (the goalie) were chucked into a game at the Nou Camp & both had blinders - Kennedy looked to have it all ahead of him, got called up for a Scotland friendly & had his knee wrecked by Ganea. He's had years of operations but claims to be fully fit now. Could you guys (Nakor/Longy) let me know how he gets on. I'm afraid his'll always be a story of what might have been, hope I'm wrong.

Reds boss Rafael Benitez says he hopes the shirt inspires Keane to succeed at Liverpool.

"We were talking about the number, and the big names that have had this number, so it will be inspirational for him to have it too," said the Spaniard.

"We were looking for a player with game intelligence and good movement who could play alongside Torres.

"He can play with Torres up front and also on the right. He is a player who can give to us a lot of goals - normally he gets about 15 each year.

"We were looking for the workrate he can give to us, the game intelligence and also the goals."

looks like Kuyt just lost his job

i think Keane just gives Benitez more options,it will be interesting to see how Kuyt and Keane do play together,i dont think Kuyt is in any danger of loosing his place in the team,Kuyt may keep switching with Keane on the right throughout the game,Keane on the right should give Gerrard and Kuyt more freedom, i wonder if Benitez will ease off on the rotation this season it would be great to see Torres,Keane,and Kuyt line up regular

i wouldn't have Kuyt in my 1st 11...

to tell the truth my biggest concern for Liverpool this season is how Reina and the rest of the defence deal with crosses, lost so many easy goals last season because of this.

I cannot possibly say as I have seen Keane play HUNDREDS of times and Arshavin about 3 or 4 times.

Me neither, I was just wondering.  I've seen Arshavin play maybe a dozen or so times, but only occasionally does he produce the moments of brilliance and I think (from my limited exposure) that he's a lazy player.  I'd guess that he's better suited to the Spanish or Italian leagues rather than the Premiership.

Also LOL at Keane playing on the right.

Keane's best position is playing on the shoulder of the defender - see Anfield last year - he isn't a link man, he is pretty useless on the left or right wing; play Torres as the target man and with Keane cleaning up.

(http://img.skysports.com/08/07/800x600/RobbieKeane1_1068279.jpg)

Thx.

LOL

Keane is a perfect example of the new fitness regime at spurs, he has been a much better player with a few pounds off his gut ... he WILL be missed at spurs !

i was not a fan of keane a few years back, last year he started playing far better than i have ever seen him play, some of his first touches and finishing where brilliant, i remember thinking hes a lot better than i have given him credit for but could not figure out why he has suddenly improved,yeah it adds up now, i think you've got it spot on,

He will not be missed.

I hear that Everton will bid for Darren Bent when they sell Johnson to Fulham

Well I think that you are hearing a classic case of 2+2=6.

To answer someone question earlier I think Benitez will have to rotate less this season. I dont think the owners will allow a £20m signing to be rotated. You also don't spend 8m on a left back to rotate or 16/18 million on a centre midfielder to ratate him. The squad will be smaller but with better quality. Exactly what we need.

The wide players may be rotated (except Babel) but that's about it.

And anyone who says the top scorer in England in all of 2008 isn't going to be missed - stop taking drugs!

Top scorer in the year, on the field captain/may as well be club captain = not missed! Come on! Your banking on completely unproven players to take over his workload. I hope for Tottenham's sake they do let Berbatov go too. 30m to reinvest or a proven sulky player being in a season long sulk!!

What you spending your winnings on Mond?!!

Cracking signing for Burnley - Chris Eagles. I can imagine his plucked eyebrows and nice tan will make sure he is a success over there.

Burnley been chasing him for ages, im happy with that.

£1.25mil abouts...  Surprised he's stayed at Utd so long, should have left 2-3 years ago, he's missed out on 80+ games...

                            Reina

Carragher       Skrtel        Agger           Dossena


                          Mascherano

                            Gerrard

    Kuyt                                          Babel

                Keane
                                     Torres


Cavalieri
Deggen
Alonso (Barry)
Beneyoun
Arebeloa
Aurelio
Lucas

Sold  Pennant, Finnan, Voronin.                           

[  ] cracking signing
[X] One of the worst players in the world

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_6TNfJUwAA

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyhBI7rnP-E

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flsLHcBRPgQ

David Bentley is set to undergo a medical at Spurs, Man City make an offer for Tal Ben Haim and Newcastle close on Sebastien Bassong.

When did Sky Sports new sign you up?

dossena could make all the difference this season,and if babel plays to his full potential, it looks a very strong team to give us a chance, no predictions yet though.

Away I think he'll play like this quite often:


                             Reina

Carragher       Skrtel        Agger           Aurelio


              Mascherano      Alonso

  Gerrard                                         Babel

                         Keane
                                     Torres

I do hope Liverpool can mount a title challenge again but realisticallly (and i'd like to hear from Man U and Chelsea fans here) how many of Liverpool's first choice 11 would merit a place in the starting line up of the Man Utd or Chelsea. Torres and Gerrard yes, Carragher at right back perhaps although Wes Brown was in good form last year and Bonsigwa(sp?) looked a good player in the Euros. Good a player as say Mascherano is would he dislodge Essien or Hargreeves from their starting 11s?

I think people are trying to get Carragher in the team on the basis he's Jamie Carragher. If he plays RB for Liverpool next year he'll be a massive weak link there.

Cheers spuddies, 40% of benderly's £18M fee is coming goonerwards so I am informed, lovely jubbly :)

certainly a % is due to the goons, not sure of the exact details ... shame you never kept him at the club ;)

Agree - we didn't buy a new RB to play Carragher there. We have 3 at the moment. He doesn't need to play there. Carra will still be 1st choice CB for one reason and one reason only. He's the best marshall of a defence I've seen in this country since Desailly. They move like clockwork due to him. Anyone who saw Arsenal Vs Liverpool at the Emirates last season (Champs League) will know how good Carragher is.

I don't think we will win the league with this team, but this argument:

"I do hope Liverpool can mount a title challenge again but realisticallly (and i'd like to hear from Man U and Chelsea fans here) how many of Liverpool's first choice 11 would merit a place in the starting line up of the Man Utd or Chelsea."

is a moot one for me.

Would Ballack or Drogba get in the Liverpool team over Torres and Gerrard? For me, no. Does it mean we wouldn't have them in a heartbeat if we could? Of course we would!

Also, Drogba and Anelka are amazing players - no doubt. Would I rather have their partnership or Torres and Keane? No contest. Carragher and Hyypia aren't better than Terry and Carvalho but I bet you'd be surprised how many seasons they've conceeded less goals.

I don't like to do our players vs their players because it's just not in our managers mentality (or budget) to go out there and buy star after star and have Man Uesque Galacticos in every position. If our team turns up in "big 4" matches and doesn't srop daft points to Reading and Wigan we'll have a chance no matter how early we're written off.

Villa call off Barry move to Reds


Aston Villa say that Gareth Barry will be staying at the club and not moving to Premier League rivals Liverpool.

Great post


im glad, would have been a decent addition, but not for the money villa wanted

40%, fuck off

Oh dear. Bad bad move by O'Neill.

We'll probably sign him at Xmas or next summer for far less. Maybe 12 mil at Xmas and 8 or 9 next summer.

I hope we move on and sign someone like David Silva instead.

Tottenham duo Jermaine Jenas and Michael Dawson have been handed one-year contract extensions to keep them at White Hart Lane until 2013.

Centre-back Dawson, 24, who arrived from Nottingham Forest in 2005, had been linked with a move to Newcastle towards the end of last season.

Midfielder Jenas, 25, joined in August 2005 from Newcastle and has made 111 appearances, scoring 21 goals.

He also earned a recall to the England team last season.

Duff to Blackburn as part of a Warnock deal possibility. (or hopefully more the other way round with Warnock plus cash!)

In terms of people in the squad it does nothing. Probably save 30k a week in wages, which I guess is part of the motivation, along with left wing cover being better than left back.

What's wrong with that then ?

He's a product of our acadamy and we firstly lent him out to BRFC and then sold him on at a knock-down price which of course included a healthy sell-on clause in the contract. I would say that Arsenal deserve 50% of any profit.

What %age would you say is fair, and why ?

BOL, windup surely.

I'm just disappointed that such a large percentage of the transfer fee will be going elsewhere as I was hoping Ince would have the funds to re-invest in the squad.

Has this actually been reported anywhere?

I've heard of younger and far better players have sell on clauses for up to 25% (which is huge) but never 40%!

How can any club ask for a sell on clause of 40%, when:

a) They werent playing the player

b) The buying club did play, and continue to develop the player

c) The loan deal would surely have included a fee for the loan (probably in the millions)

d) Arsenal received good money for a player not even making the bench!

If Wenger pulled off a 40% buy on clause then he's even more of a genius than I already think he is.

Going by his recent selling prices though, unless it comes out as fact, I'll struggle to believe this news.

If it was a Scotty wind up then gg me and fk my life.

I'm fairly sure it won't be 40% but could be as high as 25%.

And Arsenal certainly don't deserve 50%.

A recent example is Darren Bent. Ipswich put a 15.75% sell on clause into his contract at Charlton. They picked up £2.6 million for him going to Spurs. This was a player playing regularly and scoring goals for fun, who was younger than Bentley and, at the time at least, a brighter prospect for his age.

In comparison 25% would be very, very high considering the Bentley's circumstances at the time he left Arsenal.

Arsenal forum seems to suggest 35% or a £4.25m cap. Respected poster, club connections.

A good signing in Bischoff for us today as well, another for the future though - please buy a CB Mr Wenger and one for today, not 3 years time.

Yeah, more believable with the cap.

Bischoff will play Nak. His agent let slip a while back that Wenger has told him he'll be in the first team from the off.

What you'd give for another Sol Campbell right now though eh?

Forest just signed a player from Carlisle for £1.14M, pretty sure BRFC get 50% of it from a sell on clause so 40% for Bentley not impossible?

No not impossible at all. I was just having an educated guess having never heard of such a figure. Plus 40% just sounds unreasonable to me. Especially with the money in the EPL.

I'll just sit here being wrong and amazed!  ;gobsmacked;

Bent on fire, I do hope he gets a chance at spurs as I believe he will be top scorer for them next season :) anyone wanna bet?

Hope Bischoff gets a trot Sat or Sunday, will be good to see him.

The Campbell we bought agreed - that don't grow on trees, and Spurs medical team ruined King before we could buy him ;)

Nabbed Bischoff on a free on SoccerManager a while back ;)

Keane is a good player don't get me wrong, but he will not be missed imo.

Before Berbatov came, it looked like that Keane would be sold as Defoe was the main man, we would have been lucky to get £10million for Keane then. Berbatov arrival has coincided with Keane becoming the player he was with Berbatov partnering him up front.

I think Berbatov will be going. I am truly gutted about this, but it isn't like a bolt out of the blue.

Kris Boyd.

He has been spotted at Spurs' training ground. Is he any good?

Only reading between the lines but the Blackburn bloke didn't want to talk about any percentage owed to Arsenal which makes me think it's not as large as has been mentioned.
If it was 40% he would come out and say they owe Arsenal alot and thats why they won't be spending all the money and why they won't be getting ripped off.
I think it's lower and he doesn't want to say as he still doesn't want to get ripped off so if teams think they've only got £10mil to spend rather than £15 it could work in their favour.

Only a guess and at 2am it hasn't been thought out for too long so the opposite could be true!

kris boyd 2nd highest goalscorer in spl hes only 24

good player imo. mainly used as a sub last year but still scored lots.

 ;nemesis;

You sure? He was playing at Ibrox last night in the Champions League qualifier.

He has been spotted at Spurs' training ground. Is he any good?
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He's fat, lazy, huffy, and belligerent but he will score goals for fun in any league in any country.

A stone cold instinctive finisher.

cardiff had a £2.5mil bid for him last month accepted i think, but he turned it down...

Cant see Spurs in the market for him

Bentley is a good signing for Spurs.

Pavlyuchenko to go through this week.

It's like Juande Ramos is on Champ Man.

agree...Liverpool should have gone for him in preference to Barry

i think they may have but ive heard Bentley did not want to play in the north west

I agree Bentley is better than Benayoun/Pennant and even Babel, but with those already there he's not a player I think Rafa would target...

Oh well he will be happy down in London partying all the time and not needing to worry about his performances as he will get a game week in week out anyway

Disagree, Ramos is hardline...

Yep agreed ... look at the regime he put in place when he took over, no fat lads at Spurs !

You goin to watch Pompey now Kev?

He wontplay for at least 3 months as he is currently injuried.

And I beleive the 40% sell on clause on Bentley is correct and also from what I have been told there is no cap. shib the £6m-£7m Spurs, LOL

Arshavin signs for Spurs.

Константин Сарсания: «У Аршавина есть интерес к «Тоттенхэму»

Советник президента «Зенита» по трансферным вопросам Константин Сарсания прокомментировал информацию о том, что «Тоттенхэм» продолжает переговоры о покупке нападающего сборной России Андрея Аршавина, сообщает корреспондент Sports.ru Инна Герман.
«Если комментировать информацию по игроку, то я не могу сказать, чего он хочет. У нас есть определенные контакты с «Тоттенхэмом», но когда они завершатся, я пока не знаю. Может быть, в течение 5 дней – может раньше, может позже.
У «Тоттенхэма» существует интерес к игроку, и я так понимаю, что у игрока интерес к клубу тоже есть», – сказал Сарсания.
Ранее представитель футболиста Деннис Лахтер в интервью The Times заявил, что что питерский клуб ведет переговоры с лондонцами.
«Я настроен оптимистично. Но с российским клубом непросто договориться. Надеюсь, все решится в ближайшие 5 дней. Аршавин уже принял решение о том, что намерен покинуть «Зенит». Ему нравится стиль игры «Тоттенхэма», и он хочет поработать с Хуанде Рамосом», – сказал агент.

Spell check doesnt work. :(

Arsenal strengthening their rivals again (Indirectly of course)

Please do remember Nem that some dodgy players have been signed after a couple of good games in the Euros.

Gerry Armstrong for one ;) and Luther (miss it) Blisset for another.

and lets not mention the world cup

Diuof and salif diao  omg

No one seems to like Babel - I think he'll be a world beater in a year or two.

Talented for sure but from what I have seen he seems to lack bottle.

He's not a fan of tracking back and mucking in at all but he's improved.

Good attacking attributes though, pace, power, can beat a man, a little trickery, sizzling shot and not bad at finishing.

Got to agree though. His head goes down very easily - he never seems up for the massive games. Hopefully it'll come.

Thats what happens when you play a centre forward as a winger.

unsure how I feel about him leaving tbh, hopefully means we get to keep zheng zhi though.

should do a job at rangers if they want to play the same way in europe again, a proper no nonsense CB

Thanks, you've answered my question before I even posted it

At Wednesday he was like Rio Ferdinand with a tiny hint of Fabien Barthez.
A great footballing centre half but can over do it sometimes and get himself into trouble. Usually has the pace to get himself out of it though.

Van Der Vaart has gone to Real for £7mil.
I don't know how this didn't turn into a battle for his signature. At that price all the big teams should have been interested.
Half the price of Arshavin and younger.

Yeah, ridic price!

He could leave Hamburg for €1.5million next season, hence his ridiculous fee.

But he's always been a winger....

He is a cast iron drop off the front, pick the ball up and run at the CBs, championship manager forward, if ever there has been one. Don't think Liverpool have anyone to play up there with him now anyway so might never get to see it.

Liverpool fans

Leicester City have signed goalkeeper David Martin on a six-month loan deal from Liverpool.

The 22-year-old told the club website: "At my age, gaining first team experience is of paramount importance and that's why I've come to Leicester.

"I want to make the best of my time here and hopefully Leicester will benefit from my arrival aswell."

The England Youth international signed a two-year deal in May keeping him at Anfield until 2010.


good signing?

tidy keeper,keeps it simple.  prob do a good job for you.

Alvin's son... Seen him a few times for the reserves, good prospect, played about 10 games for Acc Stanley end of 06/07 season i think, poached from MK Dons

ahh yes him, thanks

I'm more optimistic now...think we'll be up there

in Max Gradel we have the most exciting player I've seen in a long time, could tear up the division if the rest of the team clicks

The last week or so i have found myself feeling the same way. Come 5pm Saturday we will probably have been bought back to to earth with a crashing bump.

Spot on. He does nothing fancy but that doesn't detract from the fact he's good.

I'd put him in the ever increasing category of keepers which Liverpool have had, who are not ever really gonna hold the No1 spot, but they'll sell for a profit...

Whilst Reina is at the club you are probably right.

I think we are still looking to move Itandje(2m), Finnan(2m), Pennant(7m) and Voronin(3m).

Leto is looking to complete a loan move to Greece this week.

Xabi Alonso £16m, to Arsenal is suggested this morning

LOL

No way will they spend £16m on Alonso.

It was in the Daily Star, therefore it must be true.

If not Alonso or Barry, who is the experienced Midfielder that Wenger wants?

(http://www.goalvideoz.com/images/players/40395AbouDiaby.jpg)

Not experienced, but will do the job.

Walcott   19
Fabregas  21
Eboue     25
Ramsey   17
Nasri       21
Rosicky    27
Denilson   20
Bischoff    20

Arsenals midfield looks talented to me but too young weak and inexperienced

I swear he's dirty yellow bastard from Sin City.

I think Arbeloa could be off due to personal problems and wanting to return to Spain.

He won't get rid of the Vorinator, he's an ideal squad player, ok he's a bit of a donkey, but is happy playing 10-15 games a season...

Diaby?

Are Spurs buying Dean Ashton from west ham? in some papers.

I cant seriously see us paying the silly money that West Ham want, but they are our feeder team ;)

Sell Keane and buy Ashton ... I dont think so, but stranger things have happened.

Is it right that Fulham have paid Everton 10.5 mil for Andy Johnson?  WTF is the deal with that.....Football is fucked up!

He's hitting his peak (age wise) and he's an England squad member + he was under a long contract at Everton =£10.5million

I have heard he is the English Fernando Torres.

PMSL

An-dy John-son Ful-hams-Number 9.

I was thinking about this peak age thing the other day. The general theory is 26 to 30 right? Though obviously it varries for different positions... but - Think of the best players in the world and their age.
Ronaldo - early twenties
Kaka - Early - 20's
Ronaldinho a couple of years ago early twenties
Alan Shearer's peak goal scoring - early twenties to 26/27.

I'm struggling to think of top players who can back up the 26 - 30 peak.

Anyway - Andy johnson = Overpriced.

Tony Adams
Sol Campbell
Pieres
Ian Wright

Thats just my club - 26 - 30 FTW IMO

That is all before you had to run 100 meter's in 11.5 seconds to get a trial of course.

Only thing that stopped me Nak !!

Young mans game now Kev - we better off hanging around de tinternet and talking a good game.

Zinedine Zidane
Luis Figo
Teddy Sheringham


I think it is player dependent, you get players like Rooney who are built like men at 16 and others who improve with experience.

every english player is over priced, the fees banded about for very everage english players is unreal and also the money these players make. no wonder clubs shop abroad when its that much cheaper

you can add lampard to the list of players who had there best yrs from 26-30

(http://www.mobiletelevisionreport.com/Frank_20Lampard.jpg)

Im watching the Liverpool v Chelsea game from Aug 06


Reina
Finnan
Agger
Carragher
Riise
Pennant
Sissoko
Zenden
Gonzalez
Garcia
Crouch

Amazing how much changes in 2 years.

Finnan to Boro?  He has been a great player for the club, looks destined to move on. Id be happy if we get 2m for him.

Dickov to Leicester.

I feel the same way

good signing, hopefully will score goals for fun for a year or so

He's had a fairly good career - I remember watching him in the U16 World Cup Final - of that team he's had the best of it, with Brian O'Neill second, not many others had much of a career after such a promising start.

Should be a good signing for Leicester, an absolute nuisance of a player for an opposition defender to have to deal with.

Luton have made 11 (eleven) signings in a day.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/luton_town/7549885.stm

Striker's definately peak before 30. There are exceptions but the out and out strikers peak prior to 28 usually.

Heard a big shout today for Carlos Cuellar to Liverpool for £12million.

If Liverpool have 12m there is no way its going on a CB. Could well be trying to inflate the price for him to end up at another PL club though.

Silvestre to Arsenal

done deal

yeah, heard on the radio he was in a medical at man city when his phone rings with arsenal interest, so he leaves immediately and is signed by evening.

lol, did he not want to think about it :D

Shevchenko has gone back to Milan.

Many of you won't have heard of this lad but I expect you will do over the coming years, may only play 10-15 games this season but one for the future...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/reading/7574042.stm

senderos pretty much gone....GET IN

Liverpool been linked with this Albert Riera from Espanyol, i cant say i know much about him

Can anyone shed any light ? All i'll say is if the lad can stick to the touchline and not congest everything by coming inside like our current "wide" men , it will be half the battle won

I ain't seen him play but by all accounts he played for Man Shitty and was pretty shit, Another thing is the fee quoted by some as being £12m, now why should that dosh go out of the EPL when a proven wide man in Stuart Downing could be got for a similar price?

Because most Eng players are s**t

Thats not an endorsment of Riera either as I know nothing about him..

Less than £8M apparently, whereas an average-ish player such as Downing is valued at over £15M. 

He certainly plays as a wide player, which we certainly don't have on the left.  A lot of Liverpool fans are up in arms at this signing, but I'll wait and see.

Anyone know anything of this Grella chap who is linked with Blackburn?

Also, Pavlyuchenko claims he is set to join Spurs.

Newcastle linked with Malouda - WTF. Either this is the stupidest piece of rumour for us this season or something is seriously wrong in our transfer section.

Two of the only positions we are covered in are the wings.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/7583335.stm

looked great in Euro 2008

v needed if Berbatov is on his way

Riera had a very good season last year. He has a decent turn of pace, he's strong on the ball, he has a lot of tricks in his bag and he's excellent at firing crosses low and hard accross the six yard box.

On the negative side he doesn't score enough and sometimes tries a trick or two too many in areas that are risky. But I dont think he'd take long to settle after showing some good signs at City.

If the fee is under 10 million as the Echo reported today I don't think it can go far wrong as his assists will definately help the side.

He ruined some excellent right backs last season such as Zambrotta, Miguel and Ramos (who he totally abused to the point it was embarrasing) and I think it's way to early to say this signing is a bad one.

Its not a bad signing, its not a title winning signing, its a signing to consolidate 3rd or 4th...

James milner to Liverpool? Surely he wouldn't hand in a transfer request to go to villa?! Disappointing either way.

loos like he has been tapped up by somebody.what sort of price tag do you reckon ?

Does he play most games in his fav position? if not makes perfect sense.

Vidic:

"In England, they say that Manchester is the city of rain. Its main attraction is considered to be the timetable at the railway station, where trains leave for other, less rainy cities."

rotflmfao

United were singing "He comes from Serbia, hes gonna murder ya" to him on Monday ..

Also a nice song which went "Viva John terry, viva john terry, he could have won the cup but the w*nker f*cked it up"  made me smile :)

In my cynical mindset I'd hold for 10 or 11m. Milner is the sort of player who will put a shift in no matter what so if he doesn't get a move at that sort of price then keep him a year and see what happens. He has been a lot closer to leaving us in the past than he is now.


He plays on the right. Have no idea if its his favourite, he seems to play it for club and country so I guess its seen as his best. He had a good game up front last night, but you lose the influence of his intensity up there.

I like Milner as a player but don't know if he'll add significantly to what we have. We need the highest level of winger as we have good players already.

FYP

I would've posted this yesterday as i am today as i am not bitter about him putting a transfer request in but there are two things with Milner that mean he's not a top class player and why I was very suprised to here of liverpools interest:One he can't cross a ball his corners don't beat the 1st man probably 8/10 which is diabolical and also his doesn't score anywhere near enough goals.So for those 2 reasons i wont be that sorry to see him go for 10 million if swp is available at the same price i know who i'd rather have

Gone back to Citeh on 4 year deal

Even without milner I wouldn't go for another winger at Newcastle. The difference between milner and Phillips is that one has played games in the last three years, the other hasn't and has gone backwards. I know which of their attitudes I'd sooner have at my team too.

Who would u play rm then if milner went ?(please don't say geremi) I don't really see why swp's attitude is an issue, he went to a big club couldn't get a game it didn't work out so he left ? How has he got a bad attitude,I'd rather a player with his attitude than someone like Wayne bridge who's spent years at Chelsea hardly got a game and then signs a 5 year contract, clear to see what motivates him eh.I hope milner doesn't go as i don't see us replacing him in time and squads to small already I'd rather see barton sacked or smith leave for pittance as he's shit and worthless anyway to give milner the little bit extra he's asking for which he deserves imo.Must be hard to see people like duff,smith,barton,ameobi... earning more than he is yet he's given 10x more to the cause than them useless fooks have.

Mike Ashley again is concerning me greatly with the way he's conducting the business of the club.It also seems that Denise Wise may be undermining the hard work King Kev(LOL all you southern/northern/non-geordie boys want he's a legend up here and always will be and deservedly so) is trying to do and i hope that he's not being taking for a ride coz if he is we all know the man is to good for that type of bs and he will walk which will lead to the sh*t truly hitting the fan for Mike Ashley and his merryman.

I'd just play Jonas on the right. He's right footed and just because he likes to cut in from the left doesn't mean he cant play right (and has been swapping with milner loads during each game this season). I think he'd be just as effective on the right longer term as he is going to be on left.  We already have Charlie and duff for the left if he switches across.

I'd prefer to keep things the same as they are now, but if not I'd prefer any money coming in from Milner to go to weaker spots than the right wing.

Don't forget he has been closer to leaving than this and not gone so who knows what will happen yet.

I'm still willing to give Ashley this season before making my mind up. I'm not sure how much of what is happening at the moment is because of his style or because we're now being run as a business, which long term has to be better. He's broken our record for a defender this summer so he is investing. I hate all the specualtion about the KK Wise relationship, but a lot of it is just that. There should obviously be better communication going on than there is but once the window is closed hopefully a lot of it will die down.

Just when things were looking okay... Time to fasten the seatbelt again.

Saha to Everton. Anyone know how much this was for?

Oh well, i'm sure Keegan will spend the £10 million wisely, lol.

Agree with a lot of what you say, think Villa have paid way over the odds for him, he's a £5m player at best. He works he's socks off which is why the fans take to him, but his distribution was fairly poor.
Another body in which is good as our squad was so thin on the ground last year. Pretty much the same with Newcastle now looks like you need to get a few players in.

Leeds will get a % of the milner transfer. £2-3M not bad for a league one team :)

Fee rising to 12m with add on's. Leeds on 20%. Newcastle offered bates 500k last week to buy the rights back!

I always thought villa played with 3 forwards, with young being on the right. They now have milner and routledge as right wingers. Will be interesting to see how they line up.

[  ] We need 2-3M

It's usually Young left Agbonlahor right and Carew middle.

I cant see Milner replacing either of these players

Milner is brilliant.

Milner Right, Young left, Gabby up top.

Agree

but that doesnt suit the style Martin o'neil usually employs- he has always used a target man in the centre, Heskey, Sutton, Hartson, Carew- playing gabby up top would not suit his sytem IMO

Away from home on the counter attack he uses Harewood, and Gabby is way better than Harewood.

undisclosed they won't release amount as he is injury prone and all fans think waste of money - although most man utd fans look back and say how much have we lost by buying him....

Everton saying its costing them nothing...or atleast Moyles did on sky sports news 5mins ago.

He has nowhere near as much pressence though.

They supposedly got him for free and will pay something for him based on games he plays

That's a fantastic deal they got then. Saha scores one in three when he's fit...if they can keep him fit (like they have done with Woodgate) he will be the buy of the season.

Who did what with woodgate ?

Spurs did with Woodgate...keep him fit that is.

If you want a physcial presence you just use Carew in the first instance.

I really want to fast forward through the next 12 hours and have someone tell me newcastle haven't sold anyone else, unless their surname is smith, and that we've signed a few players with quality.

Without a sealed deal in place man citys new owners don't seem to mind splashing the cash! Would be interesting if the deal doesn't go through!

Quality Quality Quality post on the BBC live text transfer day thread ..

Loads of people texting in saying "I have seen this player/that player at this airport/hotel etc ... then some fella posts this ...

1045: "My mate owns a burger van outside Old Trafford and he's just had to remind Dean Windass and his agent that he's not open till 11. You heard it here first!"


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1430: The latest from Man City - and I have to say that they are fast becoming the club of the day. BBC Sport understands that a £30m bid has indeed been made for Dimitar Berbatov, while the club are in talks with Valencia's David Villa and Stuttgart's Mario Gomez.


WOW if thats true.

spurs have accepted the offer...


well overpriced.

Wow! I wouldn't want to be in Fergie's office right now.

has the world gone mad ?

Seriously, if Berbatov goes to City, then all talk about champions league etc will have been bollocks, why on earth would he sign for a team that have less chance of winning anything thatn us ?  madness and I am not at all convinced.

It wont happen coz Nemesis told me so

lol. Spurs got Bent they dont need anyone else! :) he will score more then keane.

Glad to see City new owners, that corrupt twat should never be allowed to own a club in the country.

Who, Ken Bates ?

He seems to have gone missing.   :dontask: