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« Reply #102975 on: June 20, 2015, 02:24:21 PM »

Nice one.

Yes greyhound hurdle!

Hurdles are often seen as distractions, which leads to a lot of dogs who would rather fight on the way round or show interest in other dogs on the way round over the flat trip ending up on the hurdles after they've been disqualified. The idea being the hurdles distract the 'dodge' dog from being interested in anything else on the way round.

Having said that there are dogs that are just so pacey that they get tried over hurdles and go well, and there are a few trainers, Ricky Holloway, Tony Taylor for example that tend to have a lot of specialist hurdlers as they try and school them to hurdle from young. Anybody can hurdle, just like anybody over the flat, but you will find that the majority of hurdlers do have a 'quirk' about them which lead to them being bored over the standard flat trip.

This is why, although the 5/1 is huge, I can't throw the lot on it, as even though our dog may be genuine, you can't be sure about anything in with it!!
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« Reply #102976 on: June 20, 2015, 02:25:03 PM »

Might have one at Ayr today. A tracker horse that is running up in Bonnie Scotland  at 2:55. Likes better ground and has done ok up at Ayr in the past, when there's been firmness in the ground. No sign of rain and it's just gone GTF there.

Santefisio is 11/1 in this 8 runner race. Can get 3 spots a fifth. More likely a place than a win.

Happy to get views and don't go mad but a tenner each way with Billy Mountain will do no harm.
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« Reply #102977 on: June 20, 2015, 02:28:39 PM »

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I hadn't forgotten Tatlisu

if you see this, should we be on?

I think this was a nod to an AP position rather then a tip at the current price
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« Reply #102978 on: June 20, 2015, 02:29:56 PM »

Might have one at Ayr today. A tracker horse that is running up in Bonnie Scotland  at 2:55. Likes better ground and has done ok up at Ayr in the past, when there's been firmness in the ground. No sign of rain and it's just gone GTF there.

Santefisio is 11/1 in this 8 runner race. Can get 3 spots a fifth. More likely a place than a win.

Happy to get views and don't go mad but a tenner each way with Billy Mountain will do no harm.

13/1 Betfair and even though you can drive a truck through the buy and sell prices you can still beat the e/w terms on the place too.  
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« Reply #102979 on: June 20, 2015, 02:29:56 PM »

Might have one at Ayr today. A tracker horse that is running up in Bonnie Scotland  at 2:55. Likes better ground and has done ok up at Ayr in the past, when there's been firmness in the ground. No sign of rain and it's just gone GTF there.

Santefisio is 11/1 in this 8 runner race. Can get 3 spots a fifth. More likely a place than a win.

Happy to get views and don't go mad but a tenner each way with Billy Mountain will do no harm.

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    Bet placed, its reference is 507/549

Bet ref: 507/549 £10.00 Single
Market   Selection   Price   Hcp
1m Handicap
Outright Betting
EW 1/5 1,2,3    Santefisio    12/1    
Total stake   £ 20.00
Estimated return   £ 164.00
Full stake   £ 20.00
Full estimated return   £ 164.00
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« Reply #102980 on: June 20, 2015, 02:43:09 PM »

No real idea on the true price, but if anyone is interested BMU and Hills are 20/1 on Swindon for League 1 when its generally 12/1 most firms.  Worth backing even with the plan to lay back at a later date?

Losing Luongo and Gladwin to QPR will hurt them massively, and they have an ordinary bunch of strikers. It's a weaker league this season but I'll be looking to take them on in match bets.
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« Reply #102981 on: June 20, 2015, 02:44:46 PM »

Hulkenberg 5th

Verstappen 7th

Nasr 9th



apart from Rosberg's late mistake, that qualifying couldn't have been much better for yesterday's bets
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« Reply #102982 on: June 20, 2015, 02:45:44 PM »

No real idea on the true price, but if anyone is interested BMU and Hills are 20/1 on Swindon for League 1 when its generally 12/1 most firms.  Worth backing even with the plan to lay back at a later date?

Losing Luongo and Gladwin to QPR will hurt them massively, and they have an ordinary bunch of strikers. It's a weaker league this season but I'll be looking to take them on in match bets.

one poster in this thread advised me to be on Swindon at nice prices to go down (out yourself if you want to post!)
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« Reply #102983 on: June 20, 2015, 02:47:55 PM »

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I hadn't forgotten Tatlisu

if you see this, should we be on?


I am very hopeful, and pleased to see it so well fancied etc, but sadly the juice is well and truly squeezed from the price, and will be more so should Mighty Moore start off with a winner or two.
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« Reply #102984 on: June 20, 2015, 02:55:30 PM »

Peter, I just had a thought, you do realize that £20 a point is a little out of sync with your normal fixed odds bet sizing reccs?

Do you consider this a max/max/max?

To be able to buy at 53 is crazy, they should (and I'm sure will) score way more than that. I bet as much as I could afford without impacting my lifestyle/savings.

It's pretty clear that sporting index haven't considered the impact of the new car coming at the next race. The team would get close to 53 points with their current car, let alone their proper 2015 challenger ..

I have a question on the back of this, do spread betting companies ever limit accounts?

What's the liability and profit on his exact bet?

They're currently on 21, I bought at 53, so I make that a liability of £640 after I bought at £20. Profit .. really depends on how many points they score! I'm predicting 125 points as a minimum, but let's say 100 to be safe. That would be a profit of £940.

Interestingly, since I posted my views on here, the buy value has gone up to 62 .. is that really just due to TFT's influence?!  Shocked Grin



It's because the quote was updated after they both were in top 10 after 2nd practice.

I checked straight after 2nd practice and it was 54. Now 62.

It was 62 when Joe posted yesterday.  So the price moved between 2nd practice and Joe's post?  

No doubt you move the prices on these markets, especially the thin ones.  I have seen some very big moves this year. I am not sure about what happened here though.

Yeah, bit of a weird one. It's very interesting monitoring the prices Smiley

Alonso needs a new gearbox, so another five-place grid penalty to add to the 20 places he already has

Button a 25 place penalty

think we can run the Mclaren position!

i would be tempted to double up Force India for TfT, i must say. £2 a point with (worst case) downside of 62-21=41 points seems reasonable

I have £20 on, that's how strongly I recommend this bet. £640 liability .. eek!  Tongue

I'm gonna look through the F1 markets now, will post up some bets in like 15 mins if I see anything.

Nothing at the moment, but the market is still forming.

Will look again at 12:30 Smiley

The markets are well priced today, sadly for us.

I do like the look of exactly 0.15-0.25 on this market though:

http://www.oddschecker.com/motorsport/formula-one/austrian-grand-prix/qualifying-winning-margin

I suggest £10.

Hah, this bet landed bang on in the middle! 0.20 seconds  Smiley
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« Reply #102985 on: June 20, 2015, 02:56:36 PM »

Peter, I just had a thought, you do realize that £20 a point is a little out of sync with your normal fixed odds bet sizing reccs?

Do you consider this a max/max/max?

To be able to buy at 53 is crazy, they should (and I'm sure will) score way more than that. I bet as much as I could afford without impacting my lifestyle/savings.

It's pretty clear that sporting index haven't considered the impact of the new car coming at the next race. The team would get close to 53 points with their current car, let alone their proper 2015 challenger ..

I have a question on the back of this, do spread betting companies ever limit accounts?

What's the liability and profit on his exact bet?

They're currently on 21, I bought at 53, so I make that a liability of £640 after I bought at £20. Profit .. really depends on how many points they score! I'm predicting 125 points as a minimum, but let's say 100 to be safe. That would be a profit of £940.

Interestingly, since I posted my views on here, the buy value has gone up to 62 .. is that really just due to TFT's influence?!  Shocked Grin



It's because the quote was updated after they both were in top 10 after 2nd practice.

I checked straight after 2nd practice and it was 54. Now 62.

It was 62 when Joe posted yesterday.  So the price moved between 2nd practice and Joe's post? 

No doubt you move the prices on these markets, especially the thin ones.  I have seen some very big moves this year. I am not sure about what happened here though.

Yeah, bit of a weird one. It's very interesting monitoring the prices Smiley

Alonso needs a new gearbox, so another five-place grid penalty to add to the 20 places he already has

Button a 25 place penalty

think we can run the Mclaren position!

i would be tempted to double up Force India for TfT, i must say. £2 a point with (worst case) downside of 62-21=41 points seems reasonable

I have £20 on, that's how strongly I recommend this bet. £640 liability .. eek!  Tongue

I'm gonna look through the F1 markets now, will post up some bets in like 15 mins if I see anything.

Nothing at the moment, but the market is still forming.

Will look again at 12:30 Smiley

The markets are well priced today, sadly for us.

I do like the look of exactly 0.15-0.25 on this market though:

http://www.oddschecker.com/motorsport/formula-one/austrian-grand-prix/qualifying-winning-margin

I suggest £10.

Hah, this bet landed bang on in the middle! 0.20 seconds  Smiley

and i didn't see it.

terrific :-)
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« Reply #102986 on: June 20, 2015, 02:58:04 PM »

There is maybe an opportunity in the 5.35 at Ascot.  Wicklow Brave is probably a class above, but all the form reads like it needs soft.  I know it has rained a bit, but it must still be quite firm.  Ryan Moore is probably responsible for a bit of that short price too.  Problem is the rest are a bunch of plodders and non stayers.

Think I'd take a plodder over a non stayer.  If you can get beteveryday Teak is 18/1 and they are quarter 3 places.  We aren't so far off Betfair on the win and a bit better on the place.

Suggest 10 e/w at 18/1 on the old plodder that is Teak with beteveryday.  Would be good if somebody else did this for thread as suspect they hate me already after this week.
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« Reply #102987 on: June 20, 2015, 03:00:14 PM »

Glass Office ran well in the Wokingham as a three year old and is back from injury for the 4:20 at Ascot on favourably fast ground. 25/1 four places with Billy Mountain is a smidge better than the place part on betfair.

This is my main one for the day. Didn't my want to post before 2pm while the selections were being organised for the sweepstake Cheesy

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« Reply #102988 on: June 20, 2015, 03:01:32 PM »

No real idea on the true price, but if anyone is interested BMU and Hills are 20/1 on Swindon for League 1 when its generally 12/1 most firms.  Worth backing even with the plan to lay back at a later date?

Losing Luongo and Gladwin to QPR will hurt them massively, and they have an ordinary bunch of strikers. It's a weaker league this season but I'll be looking to take them on in match bets.

Also strong rumours about Cooper going to Sheff Wed in a coaching role.
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« Reply #102989 on: June 20, 2015, 03:05:20 PM »

There is maybe an opportunity in the 5.35 at Ascot.  Wicklow Brave is probably a class above, but all the form reads like it needs soft.  I know it has rained a bit, but it must still be quite firm.  Ryan Moore is probably responsible for a bit of that short price too.  Problem is the rest are a bunch of plodders and non stayers.

Think I'd take a plodder over a non stayer.  If you can get beteveryday Teak is 18/1 and they are quarter 3 places.  We aren't so far off Betfair on the win and a bit better on the place.

Suggest 10 e/w at 18/1 on the old plodder that is Teak with beteveryday.  Would be good if somebody else did this for thread as suspect they hate me already after this week.

thanks

not one tft can do either at 18/1 1/4 odds
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