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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 56

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« Reply #21060 on: September 25, 2019, 09:25:26 AM »

Why do opposition parties want Boris Johnson to resign? He is breaking the law and dividing his party, isn't that great for them?

I don't think they want him to resign.

They want him to conspicously not resign when everyone thinks he should.

I expect he'll go along with that.
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« Reply #21061 on: September 25, 2019, 09:37:30 AM »

Why do opposition parties want Boris Johnson to resign? He is breaking the law and dividing his party, isn't that great for them?

I don't think they want him to resign.

They want him to conspicously not resign when everyone thinks he should.

I expect he'll go along with that.


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« Reply #21062 on: September 25, 2019, 11:03:38 AM »

Helicopter overhead me...police whistles and escort flying past.

Boris is back!
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« Reply #21063 on: September 25, 2019, 11:19:50 AM »

so as parliament resumes in 10 minutes the state of play in Westminster is

🤔No majority for a deal
🤔No majority for no deal
🤔No majority for revoke
🤔No majority for an election
🤔No majority for a referendum
🤔No majority for no-confidence

good luck everyone!
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« Reply #21064 on: September 25, 2019, 11:22:51 AM »

we haven't seen it on here, but on social media its odd? amusing? amazing? predictable? that so many Brexiters who insisted the prorogation was nothing to do with Brexit are now adamant prorogation being declared unlawful is an attempt to stop Brexit. They can't have it both ways!


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« Reply #21065 on: September 25, 2019, 11:24:13 AM »

A reminder of why there will be no VONC yet

Case against a confidence vote:

Boris Johnson loses.

14 day period to find new PM under FTPA.

Indie Tories don’t back Corbyn.

If this doesn’t happen, it takes us to c. 10th Oct.

Election called. Parliament dissolved. Minimum 5 weeks period.

Leave on Oct 31 without a deal. (to do this last part Boris would need to break the law passed in the Benn act)

So the risk of this means its VONC early November, election early December.....
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« Reply #21066 on: September 25, 2019, 11:25:04 AM »

Supreme Court: Where does defeat leave Boris Johnson? - BBC News

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49813639
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« Reply #21067 on: September 25, 2019, 11:26:16 AM »

Henig commented yesterday as follows

"Reflection that today's Supreme Court judgement is that's what happens when a narrow, purist form of Brexit meets a parliamentary majority and laws against it. At some point we have to return to the idea of building a consensus and today would be a good day to start"

I am not optimistic, from all sides really, including the LDs who won't let Corbyn take over temporarily
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« Reply #21068 on: September 25, 2019, 11:29:55 AM »

Boris Johnson, a diminished figure in EU eyes (i should think so too!)

An Irish view from the pre-eminent RTE commentator Connolly

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2019/0924/1077970-brexit-supreme-court-connelly/



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« Reply #21069 on: September 25, 2019, 11:30:58 AM »

This is rare, the FT's editorial policy is never to call for heads to roll

The Financial Times - not a lefty or anarchic rag - calls for Boris Johnson to resign as Prime Minister
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« Reply #21070 on: September 25, 2019, 11:32:54 AM »

I know this is silly, but next level prank calling here

https://twitter.com/OFalafel/status/1176557758344093696?s=20
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« Reply #21071 on: September 25, 2019, 11:55:48 AM »

All this turn of momentous events to get Parliament back, and all they are doing is bickering, heckling & point-scoring. What a waste. An attempt to find concensus of a way out of the Brexit mess has yet to be mentioned.

Bercow, meanwhile, has returned in fine form, referring to the Attorney General's maleficious tones. No idea what that means, but it does sound rather splendid.  
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« Reply #21072 on: September 25, 2019, 12:00:22 PM »

we haven't seen it on here, but on social media its odd? amusing? amazing? predictable? that so many Brexiters who insisted the prorogation was nothing to do with Brexit are now adamant prorogation being declared unlawful is an attempt to stop Brexit. They can't have it both ways!

They taking Boris' lead as he said this very thing in his comments following the ruling therefore all the people who have Union Jacks in their avatar (whether they're in Peterborough or St Petersburg) are going to say the same thing.

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« Reply #21073 on: September 25, 2019, 12:02:08 PM »

All this turn of momentous events to get Parliament back, and all they are doing is bickering, heckling & point-scoring. What a waste. An attempt to find concensus of a way out of the Brexit mess has yet to be mentioned.

Bercow, meanwhile, has returned in fine form, referring to the Attorney General's maleficious tones. No idea what that means, but it does sound rather splendid. 

Mellifluous - pleasing to the ear.

I was thinking that if Geoffrey Cox did have to resign as a result of all this he could find a lucrative career in voiceover work.
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« Reply #21074 on: September 25, 2019, 12:06:28 PM »

All this turn of momentous events to get Parliament back, and all they are doing is bickering, heckling & point-scoring. What a waste. An attempt to find concensus of a way out of the Brexit mess has yet to be mentioned.

Bercow, meanwhile, has returned in fine form, referring to the Attorney General's maleficious tones. No idea what that means, but it does sound rather splendid. 

Mellifluous - pleasing to the ear.

I was thinking that if Geoffrey Cox did have to resign as a result of all this he could find a lucrative career in voiceover work.

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