COVID19

[4KSuited]

Just lol that they're coming in through Heathrow and being sent on their way with a 'please try to self isolate'. Straight on to the tube.

Seems like an amazingly high proportion are from NYC, hard to see how that goes wrong:

https://www.airport-london-heathrow.com/lhr-arrivals?fbclid=IwAR01xN0vaMi278Bisq3tAhZsKB33XaW2zKhbgvQC002hWj3wAkyMjYSR_9o

and plenty from Madrid.

I assume they're being temperature checked prior to boarding though? If that's the case there's no need to do it again 7hrs later

It's unlikely that temp checks are being done at the airports. They certainly aren't done at Heathrow.

if a passenger makes it known that they have symptoms whilst on board, the flight deck notify Heathrow, and the paramedics will meet the flight and control the release of passengers off the flight.

Whilst there are still a few dozen flights coming into Heathrow, there are very few people on board the majority of them.

[Karabiner]

Blimey - 589 new deaths today.

[EvilPie]

According to the gov site application process for employers to claim on the furlough scheme won’t be available until at least the end of April.. why ? The infrastructure is there.. you have to have paye scheme in place and the employees registered to it. Why such a delay?.. a deliberate tactic so that companies who do not have the liquidity to carry the costs of keeping staff on will go out of business and thus not be able to claim.. I know they say about temp loans but you have to go through an application process and they still want security such as property

They always said end of April. HMRC are the spowest. Reversing their infrastructure to dish out this kind of money isn't going to be simple.

The loans are a lot slower than I initially expected, and I'm sure that is going to be a huge problem for lots of people. Not sure I have an issue with them looking for security though, it's pretty standard and I believe they have to justify any unsecured amounts over 250k to the government.

I think it'll put loads through and that will have a huge knock on effect on the supply chain.

We're in a very strong cash position at the moment for a Company of our size but it's not going to be easy even for us. We don't have too many employees but having run the first payroll with furlough included I'm looking at around £7500 per week going out with zero chance of anything coming back for 6 weeks. £45k of cash flow is tough in our position so I'm sure other Companies will have an absolute nightmare.

It's great news for me if the cut off for justification is £250k as that's well over any amount I'd want to borrow. If I can just get enough to cover the wage bill that would do so going on what you've said I might just get the application in now and be done with it.

Applied online for the loan...they said wait for a call back within 2 to 5 days. Our business hasn't needed financial help in 18 years of trading and we are looking well under 100k. I remember been offered/emailed 50k last year in a pre approved loan....so it will be interesting how easy this process will be now.  "Luckily" our weekly wages are about 2k so we can cope to the end of April. As it stands we dont qualify for the business rate holiday or grant, and that costs us about 40k , so a loan is going to be vital.

I spoke to our relationship manager this afternoon just to see what the process was and how long it takes should we need to apply at any point.

It appears that the 0% for 12 month loans don't kick in until you've exhausted all other avenues of debt that may be available to you.

This is going to mean that for a Company like mine and presumably yours it's just a normal loan at whatever the normal rate of interest is. Banks win out once again......

The Government only step in to provide additional security where needed because you're already in so much debt nobody will lend you anything.

What a joke

[Chompy]

These Q&A sessions are becoming a complete waste of time.

[EvilPie]

Blimey - 589 new deaths today.

Wow. Just heard 563 but pretty much the same thing and included a 13 year old

That number must hit home even with some of the idiots still ignoring the social distancing rules.

Scary times ahead

[EvilPie]

These Q&A sessions are becoming a complete waste of time.

Whilst this may be the case you can't deny the usefulness of the amazing slide shows surely?

[Chompy]

These Q&A sessions are becoming a complete waste of time.

Whilst this may be the case you can't deny the usefulness of the amazing slide shows surely?

That was the highlight for sure.

Otherwise, same as usual. Good questions, all swerved. Never in doubt with that line up.

[nirvana]

These Q&A sessions are becoming a complete waste of time.

Whilst this may be the case you can't deny the usefulness of the amazing slide shows surely?

That was the highlight for sure.

Otherwise, same as usual. Good questions, all swerved. Never in doubt with that line up.

I'd rather there weren't questions if they are not or cannot answer them directly anyway , looks worse than having no questions

[TightEnd]

https://twitter.com/richardhorton1/status/1245232887999406081?s=19

Damning stuff from The Lancet

[Pokerpops]

https://twitter.com/richardhorton1/status/1245232887999406081?s=19

Damning stuff from The Lancet

This is the same Richard Horton that published Andrew Wakefield’s MMR causes autism and wouldn’t withdraw it till he was forced to.

[Karabiner]

I'd really like to know the true story re. the "lack of chemicals" which has led to the shocking shortage of tests to NHS staff.

[TightEnd]

https://twitter.com/richardhorton1/status/1245232887999406081?s=19

Damning stuff from The Lancet

This is the same Richard Horton that published Andrew Wakefield’s MMR causes autism and wouldn’t withdraw it till he was forced to.

Do you disagree though? Without a vaccine and, without mass testing, what is the exit strategy?

[TightEnd]

I'd really like to know the true story re. the "lack of chemicals" which has led to the shocking shortage of tests to NHS staff.

Very good on this

https://reaction.life/coronavirus-testing-why-there-is-a-shortage-of-reagents/

[TightEnd]

I think raising hopes on the antibody tests was also a big mistake.

Not here yet, having suggested could be distributed by amazon and boots within days.

They backtracked a bit today. Needs more time to check it works etc

When it does come, how practically do you tell a percentage of the population to crack on whilst expecting the majority to stay locked down?

[StuartHopkin]

According to the gov site application process for employers to claim on the furlough scheme won’t be available until at least the end of April.. why ? The infrastructure is there.. you have to have paye scheme in place and the employees registered to it. Why such a delay?.. a deliberate tactic so that companies who do not have the liquidity to carry the costs of keeping staff on will go out of business and thus not be able to claim.. I know they say about temp loans but you have to go through an application process and they still want security such as property

They always said end of April. HMRC are the spowest. Reversing their infrastructure to dish out this kind of money isn't going to be simple.

The loans are a lot slower than I initially expected, and I'm sure that is going to be a huge problem for lots of people. Not sure I have an issue with them looking for security though, it's pretty standard and I believe they have to justify any unsecured amounts over 250k to the government.

I think it'll put loads through and that will have a huge knock on effect on the supply chain.

We're in a very strong cash position at the moment for a Company of our size but it's not going to be easy even for us. We don't have too many employees but having run the first payroll with furlough included I'm looking at around £7500 per week going out with zero chance of anything coming back for 6 weeks. £45k of cash flow is tough in our position so I'm sure other Companies will have an absolute nightmare.

It's great news for me if the cut off for justification is £250k as that's well over any amount I'd want to borrow. If I can just get enough to cover the wage bill that would do so going on what you've said I might just get the application in now and be done with it.

If they are offering you a normal loan though rather than a CBIL then they may well ask for a PG or other security.