Even though it hadn't been called?

The original raiser has already won a called raised pot without going to showdown, how much equity do you want?

I agree that it is the players responsibility, however no where in the op does it say the bet was called. The mistake seems to have been noticed before Beaumann makes the call. What you seem to be implying is that Beaumann wins the pot without risking putting her chips on the line to make the call. Koroknai has forfeited the call but receives the last uncalled bet back.

Confused as this is a standard ruling, the difficulty would be if  Beaumann had said call before the cards were mucked.

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[These Paramount Rules shall supersede all other rules.]

OK sorry, not TD then but floor is a raving chimp lol

Mike Caro got it right with his rules

SPIRIT OF THE GAME.
All rules shall be interpreted and all rulings shall be made with the intent that the spirit rather than the letter of the rule be followed, and the spirit of all rules is that the fairest possible outcome shall be achieved. At no time shall interpretation or strict application of a rule be used to achieve an unjust result. The spirit of the game shall be considered the best interest of the game.

BASIC PRINCIPLES OF RULES.
All rules shall be interpreted in the context of the four basic principles of Poker Rules: Fairness, Efficiency, Simplicity and Tradition. Given that the foregoing principles are considered, all rules shall be interpreted in favor of promoting action as opposed to inhibiting action.

DECISIONS FINAL.
The decision of the floorperson is final, and not subject to appeal.

GROUNDS FOR EXPULSION.
The following shall be grounds for immediate expulsion from the card room: verbally or physically threatening any patron or employee; destruction of cardroom property (including cards); throwing cards at an employee or patron. This list of grounds for expulsion is not all-inclusive; management shall always have the authority to expel a player for any grounds it deems reasonable.

PRIORITY OF PARAMOUNT RULES.
These Paramount Rules shall supersede all other rules.

PURPOSE OF RULES.
The purpose of rules is not to create a fixed regimen where there is a penalty for the slightest infraction, but rather to foster an environment where the game is honest and fair to all. Although a player is responsible to know the Rules of the game, it is not intended that an innocent or inexperienced player should be punished for his ignorance, but rather that the game be run in an efficient and impartial way. The Paramount Rules serve the spirit of the game, and all rules must be interpreted accordingly

This definitely falls under rule 1, FFS have some common sense. Spirit of the game, fairness, simplicity and tradition are the paramount rules. TD is a chimp!

Or even simply take 5 minutes to read the rules that are displayed in every cardroom. This sounds really obnoxious and I apologise it is not meant too. But if poker players were to do this at their local cardroom (or any cardroom) it would clear many points and grievances players have about the rules. It is gaming practice for every cardroom to have the rules displayed.

Correct, penalty after the hand.

In 1990 I was dealing a cash game, pot was around £10k. An ex professional boxer (who was coked up at the time) was sitting in seat 9 and raised on the river, seat 1 called. When I asked to see them seat 9 had no cards. I apologized unreservedly and as there was really no such thing as TD's or Floor just the pitboss that hadn't really a clue, I kept on saying sorry and whilst i was apologizing I apologized some more and told him seat 1 wins the pot. I kind of got the words out "you should have protected your....."  Not sure if I got the word "cards" out as I came too about 5 minutes later with a dislocated Jaw. Never ever mistakenly taken cards since :/

and pmsl at byronkincaid

Is it true that every casino needs to have enough cash on the property to cover every chip?

Or is that an urban myth?

Not on the premises, I think in the UK it used to be 9 times the maximum possible payout per table in a reserve account, not sure now though. And certainly not sure what Vegas casinos have to have in reserve.

Got shitfaced (as you probably do after winning the world), tripped over and grazed face, realized the press will be all over him in the near future, needed a story to save embarrassment imo. TBH if I had just won $10 mill and gone clubbing I don't think i would be capable of counting up to 6, i struggle when sober.

If it isn't 'fair' that you should win the pot - that's too far

Absolutely 100% ^^^^^^^^ this

[35: Verbal Declarations / Acting in Turn]

You are quoting Roberts Rules;

TDA Rules as follows :

35: Verbal Declarations / Acting in Turn
Players must act in turn. Verbal declarations in turn are binding. Chips placed in the pot in
turn must stay in the pot.

This is why I said we may use rule 1


We are not really penalising him 5k we are letting him off with the other 35k,

Just out of curiosity, how do people determine what the "muck" is here? (as in blonde as a whole not the situation)

5k should stay in as that has been committed and is the penalty for "not following the action", but if the cards are retrievable that's a whole different ball game.

UTG has acted prematurely but it is down to the TD to determine if the UTG was going to call the original raise and folded to the word "raise" by the bb, or didn't see the original bet either and folded to the bb's raise of 5k? (This is the reason why folding to the word raise rather than waiting for the bet to be completed happens is wrong, the amount of people that think as soon as the word raise is used they think they now can act is astonishing, it also possibly effects the size of a raise when players do this)

CF: If the bb has said all-in not seeing the UTG+1's all-in would it stand?