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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #21810 on: October 29, 2019, 11:59:36 PM »

This is pretty good.



Very good Cheesy
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« Reply #21811 on: October 30, 2019, 12:09:01 AM »

I really don't buy into the thinking that Tories will get a majority. Not because I don't want them to, but because I can't see how some aspects can be turned into a positive for them.

They are going to lose seats in Scotland to SNP. They are going to face stiff opposition from LD's in some seats, some in highly remain areas. They are also facing the prospect of the unknown in the Brexit Party, they are most definitely going to be losing votes to them too. There is also a factor of swing from Labour, I don't buy that either. Any switched on disillusioned voter still wouldn't vote Tory.

Labour are in for a tough one though, we all know that. People say they're going to get wiped out. They're going to lose a couple of dozen, max. I'm pretty confident that the LD & SNP will pick up more than that to keep open any potential alliance.

This isn't forgetting the polling from 2017. May was polling even better, hence why she called it & look how that went.

Tories aren't going to get a majority in my opinion.
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« Reply #21812 on: October 30, 2019, 04:50:53 AM »

May was polling well then had a car crash campaign while Corbyn made up some undeliverable nationalisation plans and seduced students with lies about student debt.

I dont see this happening with Boris. He is going to be in his element and everything thus far sets him up with the perfect narrative.

Tory Majority ftw (slight bias as that is exactly what I want)
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« Reply #21813 on: October 30, 2019, 07:32:10 AM »

Wait until just the Leave/Remain* areas are covered in snow/flooded* on polling day....

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its dark at 3.30pm on Dec 12th

got to hit turnout?

as to who this might favour, its the first Dec election since 1913 so anyone's guess


Got to favour Tory, Brexit old people voting.

At 5.30 how many people after a long day will be bothered to stand in a long queue, in the cold and dark?

If it's icy, it will cut down on the old folk though.......
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« Reply #21814 on: October 30, 2019, 08:20:38 AM »

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« Reply #21815 on: October 30, 2019, 08:24:10 AM »

So, is Boris Johnson going to win?

Terrific instant analysis from the guru Kellner

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/other/snap-general-election-will-boris-johnsons-conservative-party-win-a-majority-parliament-labour-corbyn-polls-12-december
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« Reply #21816 on: October 30, 2019, 08:24:58 AM »

Professor John Curtice makes a prediction on
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“I will make a prediction. There are going to be a record number of non-Conservative and non-Labour MPs as a result of this election.

“That makes it difficult for the Tories and Labour to win an overall majority.”
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« Reply #21817 on: October 30, 2019, 08:25:51 AM »

Boris Johnson has got the election he wanted – thanks to Jo Swinson

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/election-december-boris-corbyn-swinson-snp-a9175836.html
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« Reply #21818 on: October 30, 2019, 08:26:59 AM »

Very acute analysis from O'Hara of why the GE might be much tougher for the Tories than many think. Could add: BJ may not be the campaigning asset expected. There's a reason his minders kept him on short leash in the leadership campaign.

https://capx.co/why-boris-election-gamble-could-backfire/
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« Reply #21819 on: October 30, 2019, 09:14:36 AM »

re-did my ISideWith quiz, answering every available question and got a three way tie, 91% LD / 91% Green / 90% Lab. Going to be a tough choice for me on 12th Dec and I know many broadly left/centre people are in the same boat as me.
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« Reply #21820 on: October 30, 2019, 09:18:39 AM »

re-did my ISideWith quiz, answering every available question and got a three way tie, 91% LD / 91% Green / 90% Lab. Going to be a tough choice for me on 12th Dec and I know many broadly left/centre people are in the same boat as me.


Find one of the tactical vote pages nearer the time and go with that if your aim is not Tories/Brexit
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« Reply #21821 on: October 30, 2019, 09:40:22 AM »

If Boris has a reasonable campaign and he keeps a chunk of potential Brexit Party voters happy then its a 25-35 Tory majority for me.

Tory majority now best price 10/11 now.

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« Reply #21822 on: October 30, 2019, 09:42:39 AM »

Reckon labour will nick my seat. It is/was marginal tory one but now Anna Soubry has gone independent she’ll probably nick enough of the tory vote for labour to win. Unless......enough labour leave types can bring themselves to vote tory.

Jezza must have been here at least 3 or 4 times in the last year so he knows it....
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« Reply #21823 on: October 30, 2019, 09:48:37 AM »

If Boris has a reasonable campaign and he keeps a chunk of potential Brexit Party voters happy then its a 25-35 Tory majority for me.

Tory majority now best price 10/11 now.

Cant see Tory’s not getting most seats, fingers crossed a majority to get us out of this effing stalemate, sick of it all now.
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« Reply #21824 on: October 30, 2019, 06:50:38 PM »


Very good. I read The Brexit Party are meant to be letting us know their election plans on Friday....they might concentrate on certain winnable seats ? Big moment for the Tories if that happens.
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