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1  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: October 30, 2019, 07:32:10 AM
Wait until just the Leave/Remain* areas are covered in snow/flooded* on polling day....

*delete as appropriate

its dark at 3.30pm on Dec 12th

got to hit turnout?

as to who this might favour, its the first Dec election since 1913 so anyone's guess


Got to favour Tory, Brexit old people voting.

At 5.30 how many people after a long day will be bothered to stand in a long queue, in the cold and dark?

If it's icy, it will cut down on the old folk though.......
2  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Rugby World Cup 2019 on: October 29, 2019, 09:27:58 AM
I can’t believe you get irate about something or why it bothers you. If you think I don’t have tickets, that’s cool, move on. Hope you calm down soon.

Well, there’s an easy way to prove that you do have them, post a picture of them with a queen of hearts playing card...


Its the only way anyone will believe him.
3  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The Apprentice 2018 thread on: October 28, 2019, 06:05:02 AM
anyone watch this weeks show ?

Plenty I expect.
4  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad story on: October 27, 2019, 10:22:52 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1188519157370970113

Poor when you can't hold on to a 2-0 lead at home v a team not designed to come from those positions.

Emery OUT

Well throwing the guy he made his captain under the bus today by subbing him to rapturous applause might well have sealed both of their fates.

We will of course have to wait for confirmation from our AFC itk Adzy to tip us the wink as to whether "EmeryOut" is actually a goer.

If the plane has been ordered you might well be on a winner.


PS Fuck VAR if it's to be used as a higher power making the on-field referee superfluous - why didn't Atkinson have a look in the monitor himself?


Took ten years to get rid of the last one.

I think I am a rugby man now.

Granit is a complete tool and proven he should never have been made Captain already.
5  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: October 25, 2019, 12:18:43 PM
Peston

It’s done. Labour has instructed its MPs tonight to block @BorisJohnson’s attempt on Monday to have 12 Dec election. So @BorisJohnson will shelve the Withdrawal Agreement Bill. He will cancel the budget. There will be no government worth the name. Parliament will become...a zombie Parliament, unless and until the opposition find a way to wrest control from @BorisJohnson or hold an election. This deadlock is without modern precedent.

A Tory government on strike will do less damage to the country than a Tory government in full flow.  I can feel my standard of living improving already.

Looney Leftie in full swing, ignoring all the evidence of the last 3 years because of some inherited political bias.lol
6  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: October 25, 2019, 06:08:30 AM

Failure? He’s made it to prime minister.....hardly a failure. What have you achieved in life other than being good at whining on the Internet?

I don’t quite know what your problem is with me, but that’s the second totally unreasonable attack in the space of hours.

If you disagree with my politics, challenge them. Debate them.

If you don’t like me personally (even though I’m quite sure we’ve never met), then feel free to block me and don’t read what I write.

If, on the other hand, you’d prefer to do neither and continue the ad hominem attacks, then might I suggest you shout them into the void outside your window instead, because I’m not interested in reading them on this forum.

I am challenging  it.....the reasoning is to make it to prime minister you have to be a success in life not a failure. If he as prime minister a failure in life what does that make you?

Makes me laugh when people throw out these comments like failure without looking at themselves in the mirror first.

Not surprisingly, I agree with Woodsey. Not so much that Mull is an abject failure, but when you have idiots like Ed Miliband who is from a constituency which voted 78% in favour of Leave and he refuses to follow that path, then Boris is going to look a fool and there is nothing he can do about it.

Nothing honourable, democratic or sensible about any of it, but at least he is trying.

All Labour want is power and f knows what they want to do if they ever get it.

I'm not sure even a 16 year old could tell you.
7  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: October 24, 2019, 04:59:58 PM
if "maturity" (whatever that means) means you need to be 25 years old to vote, how about we disenfranchise those with dementia and similar illnesses, Daily Mail readers and anyone else who can reasonably said not to be of sound mind. How about an IQ test before being allowed to vote? Menstruating women are out because they could be hysterical and can't be said to be 'mature' enough.

The only reason people don't want to enfranchise the young is because they think they'll vote the 'wrong' way. Take that argument to its limit and then ad absurdium and you come up with something like the above.

Ridiculous. If you're taxable, you should be represented. Simple as that.

Taking your argument to the limit and ad absurdism we give the vote to babies...

I’m sure we agree that there is an age, below which people aren’t ready to vote. Is your line firmly drawn at 16?

my line would be broadly similar to the well established principle in the law surrounding medial procedures, Gillick competence.
It doesn't have to be 16, it could be 14, or 10, or whatever.

And I do believe that if politicians were forced to engage with younger votes (because they vote) then they'd have more competence.

fwiw, the conservatives allow those members 15 and older to vote in their leadership elections.  but they won't allow the general public to do so. I wonder why that is.... :rolleyes:


Being competent to decide what happens to yourself is hardly the same thing as being competent to make a decision as to how, or indeed whether, to vote.

In any event, Gillick doesn’t seem to set an age at which competence is acquired.
Lord Scarman said
As a matter of Law the parental right to determine whether or not their minor child below the age of sixteen will have medical treatment terminates if and when the child achieves sufficient understanding and intelligence to understand fully what is proposed.

So are we now going to have a test to see if people have ‘sufficient understanding’.

it's absolutely the same thing, unless you think all voters over the age of X are completely altruistic and not self-interested, or that the distribution of self-interest and altruism is substantially different in those above X and below X.

And I'm not saying that I want to test every voter (as I'm in favour of wider-enfranchisement in general) but rather I'm interested in setting the line for enfranchisement at the age at which the overwhelming majority of electorate are capable of understanding what a vote is, and why they should do it and what the consequences of voting are.

I don't care if they understand the issues, because most adult voters don't either. I think the limit is probably much lower than 16, actually, but I'm prepared to compromise.

I see you didn’t stop being an expert on everything 

I chuckled.

Maybe you should also be a resident?
8  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: October 24, 2019, 07:56:33 AM
Jo Swinson showing herself up on Twitter. She really is incapable.

I read this on a small device and knew who had posted before confirming.

I don't doubt the content, on this occasion, but your sole source of info seems to be Twitter.

You should probably try and expand your reading material.
9  Poker Forums / The Rail / Re: Let’s talk poker on: October 23, 2019, 08:15:49 AM

One for the "what were they thinking?" file;

The scene - A Ladies only MTT over the weekend as part of "the Battle of Malta" thing.

And the Dealers turned up dressed like this;


 Click to see full-size image.




 Click to see full-size image.



Can you imagine if the women had to turn up topless?

The world gets madder.
10  Poker Forums / Diaries and Blogs / Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary on: October 21, 2019, 10:40:02 PM
Similar for the bridge inside castle mall shopping centre
I’ve never been in to see it in it’s glory
It was a hole in the ground

Thanks Tony.

We never went in the Shopping Centres, we tend to avoid them in favour or exciting stuff such as castles (Norwich), prisons (Exeter), and of course Airports.  

We spent as few hours at Heathrow last week & I took a bunch of photos of incoming aircraft. If anyone would like to see them you only have to ask. I've got loads of them.

You must’ve seen the new A350 Tony. Haven’t been on one yet, but it gets great reviews.

I’ll endeavour to get you a pic of one - unless, of course, the pic only counts if you’ve taken it?


Fly one to Tel Aviv a couple of weeks ago.

Only Premium Economy, but felt like Business Class in every respect bar the full recline, but still a further recline than in other PE experiences.

If it's not too personal a question, what were you doing in Tel Aviv? Concrete-related, presumably?


Very much so. First new machine into Israel for decades. In situ barrier on the way back!

Strange country. Such lovely fun people, but so much security and the two just feel so at odds with each other, especially when you get your car searched just driving into a shopping centre


You were probably searched because you were driving a rental car rather than a private vehicle.

No, I wasn't driving. Searching all cars.
11  Poker Forums / Diaries and Blogs / Re: Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary on: October 21, 2019, 02:09:13 PM
Similar for the bridge inside castle mall shopping centre
I’ve never been in to see it in it’s glory
It was a hole in the ground

Thanks Tony.

We never went in the Shopping Centres, we tend to avoid them in favour or exciting stuff such as castles (Norwich), prisons (Exeter), and of course Airports.  

We spent as few hours at Heathrow last week & I took a bunch of photos of incoming aircraft. If anyone would like to see them you only have to ask. I've got loads of them.

You must’ve seen the new A350 Tony. Haven’t been on one yet, but it gets great reviews.

I’ll endeavour to get you a pic of one - unless, of course, the pic only counts if you’ve taken it?


Fly one to Tel Aviv a couple of weeks ago.

Only Premium Economy, but felt like Business Class in every respect bar the full recline, but still a further recline than in other PE experiences.

If it's not too personal a question, what were you doing in Tel Aviv? Concrete-related, presumably?


Very much so. First new machine into Israel for decades. In situ barrier on the way back!

Strange country. Such lovely fun people, but so much security and the two just feel so at odds with each other, especially when you get your car searched just driving into a shopping centre.


Anyways. Saw this earlier on my trawl from my biggest fan Chompy

The betting game's dead as a dodo

Which made me chuckle.

I know we must all worship at the Church of Chomps, but statements like this are just plain ridic.

He says he can't get a bet on, but we all know he can. EVERYONE I know can get a bet on of some description, even if they have to walk or drive to do so, use exchanges or whatever. If you pick enough winners, you make money, end of.

Dead as a Dodo? I suspect that the majority of Bookies would dispute this too.

Maybe getting bets on early prices are a struggle, however the more difficult that has become, I have found watching the market right up to the last minute has proved just as fruitful, once I adjusted.

Still, I'm not an expert, so what do I know. The game must be dead.
12  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: A thread about Zeus. Mainly started for people remotely interested in Zeus.... on: October 21, 2019, 09:17:52 AM
Such a relief.

I only skim read the other thread, but thought "who the f calls their kid Zeus?"!!
13  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: October 19, 2019, 10:28:25 PM
The twitter account @remainernow, for those who abstained or voted leave in 2016 and would vote remain now has 41,700 followers

https://twitter.com/RemainerNow/status/1185217679210229761?s=19

I look forward to the excel spreadsheet with 417,000 names on it.

I jest, but there are plenty who have changed their minds (and some remainers who would now vote leave on democratic grounds, to be fair)

To call it a bullshit argument lacks nuance, to put it pomitely

What about people who didn't vote originally? I'm one of them and I'd vote leave now on democratic grounds.

I'd also vote conservative on the grounds that JC is a f**kwit.



Saying you’d vote for democratic reasons is the silliest and most hypocritical thing ever

You’d vote remain in a heartbeat if it suited your narrative and offered you incentives

You're such a tool.


Wow. A one sentence reply. Great.

It’s like those one sentence replies that leave voters use like “Brexit means Brexit” because they have the inability or brain capacity to make an intelligent argument for leaving the EU.

Well done mate.

Face it Aaron, you are probably the only person more disliked on here than me, but I don't think you try to be.
14  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Racing Thread on: October 19, 2019, 10:25:25 PM
Like I worry about your opinion. Lol.
15  Community Forums / The Lounge / Re: The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged on: October 19, 2019, 06:45:17 PM
The twitter account @remainernow, for those who abstained or voted leave in 2016 and would vote remain now has 41,700 followers

https://twitter.com/RemainerNow/status/1185217679210229761?s=19

I look forward to the excel spreadsheet with 417,000 names on it.

I jest, but there are plenty who have changed their minds (and some remainers who would now vote leave on democratic grounds, to be fair)

To call it a bullshit argument lacks nuance, to put it pomitely

There no nuance about it. Find me these people that feel conned, and for every one there is someone like EP who would rather we honour our democratic principles.

A twitter feed with 46k on it.

Ooo, 17.4 million.
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