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Title: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 16, 2014, 04:42:26 PM
Southampton FC is delighted to confirm that Ronald Koeman is our new First Team Manager. #saintsfc


now all we need is for him to try and hold onto as much of the squad as he can and get us a striker
seemingly he has an agreement to sign some dutch CB from celtic for 8 or 9 million squid


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 16, 2014, 04:55:41 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27859958


ffs he has only just got his foot in door already hearing he has

dirk van dyke from celtic danny ings from burnley all set to sign
and that his top target is lex immers from feyenooryd
would be much better to try and keep some of the players if you can


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Kmac84 on June 16, 2014, 11:09:13 PM
Good appointment. 


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 16, 2014, 11:34:37 PM
Seems a very sensible appointment. A good fit with the club tactically and with the background of youth development.

The key for Saints this season will be in the transfer market. Lallana, Shaw, Lovren are probably 90%> to leave. Lambert needs replacing and we need more strength at centre back, striker, goal keeper. Realistically will need 6-7 new faces this Summer.

I am just hopeful that we can get through having a 'transition' year as there are plenty of weak premier league sides that we should be better man for man and tactically. Expecting Saints to spend >50 million this Summer - interesting to see where that goes. The scouts have done really well over the last few seasons so hope the targets are there already and Koeman can attract a few more.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: dwayne110 on June 16, 2014, 11:44:40 PM
He has made feyenoord a defensively excellent side, with their defense now forming the backbone of the Netherlands team. Tactically intelligent, can see him doing well.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 18, 2014, 12:16:39 PM
After panty raiding the scousers first game of season, which will be interesting after all the could be transfers, the saints have a good fixture list till December again this year. Hopefully koeman can take as much advantage as  MP did last year to our easy fixtures


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 19, 2014, 01:51:25 AM
koeman eyes marshall

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-eye-david-marshall-transfer-3720620

liverpool want more saints SHOCKER

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-believe-lambert-lallana-lovren-3720762


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: kinboshi on June 19, 2014, 06:39:16 AM
That Mirror article is riddled with inaccuracies.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 19, 2014, 06:41:41 AM
That Mirror article is riddled with inaccuracies.

It's the mirror it always is


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 22, 2014, 01:09:48 PM
go on my son!!!!!

what 18 year old hasnt had thoughts like this

not exactly begging as the sun put it as far as i can tell

http://www.anorak.co.uk/400683/tabloids/luke-shaw-balls-manchester-united-target-in-incestuous-playboy-three-way-text-show.html/


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 24, 2014, 07:03:56 AM
Kidman playing hard ball he wants to keep our players

40 million does seem a lot though but I like it

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2666337/Luke-Shaws-40m-price-tag-rocks-Manchester-United-Southampton-bid-England-ace.html


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: kinboshi on June 24, 2014, 08:52:46 AM
That sounds good to me. Means Lallana will probably also have a large price-tag on him and Liverpool can look elsewhere for a player of his quality at a fraction of the cost.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 24, 2014, 10:40:26 AM
That sounds good to me. Means Lallana will probably also have a large price-tag on him and Liverpool can look elsewhere for a player of his quality at a fraction of the cost.
lovern?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on June 24, 2014, 02:13:58 PM
Yeh tbh I hope they price United out too cos Shaw is hugely over rated


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 24, 2014, 05:49:36 PM
reason teams are after the likes of lallana and shaw is ECL they need a certain number of players in squad that were trained at club and in country

luke shaw wouldnt even need registered in squad for 2 years so allows an extra player to be added


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 26, 2014, 08:23:10 PM
looks like shaw is gone with every paper and website in the country claiming he is in manchester for a medical
price is ranging between 30 and 34 million which will make him the most expensive teenager in the GB
koeman was quoted as saying he wants 40 million doubt he will get that but hoping its nearer the 34 million
and hoping its not full of add on and we get some cash to buy players with


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 27, 2014, 02:15:22 PM
Gone to united

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28048866


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: kinboshi on June 27, 2014, 03:50:43 PM
Yeh tbh I hope they price United out too cos Shaw is hugely over rated

It's a lot of money, but he's a very good talent.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on June 27, 2014, 04:14:35 PM
Yeh tbh I hope they price United out too cos Shaw is hugely over rated

It's a lot of money, but he's a very good talent.

Just trying to tilt Iron


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 27, 2014, 04:58:06 PM
obviously not enough money and with lallana deal finally going through (getting a medical as we speak
saints have a massive rebuild ahead


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: 77dave on June 27, 2014, 05:06:19 PM
obviously not enough money and with lallana deal finally going through (getting a medical as we speak
saints have a massive rebuild ahead

How many more do you think will be sold?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 27, 2014, 05:18:46 PM
you guys are really wanting to test my spelling here espically with names spell checker isnt going to like

chambers and clyne have interest but hopefully will stay same goes for ward-prowse

schneiderlin is supposedly being watched by arsenal

lovern is as good as gone IMHO

rodrigous will stay at the moment as he recovers from injury

rameriez is very likely to move on



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 27, 2014, 06:13:08 PM
Shaw deal looks a great bit of business for Saints. As pleased as you can be seeing a player of his quality leaving. Lots of money to reinvest


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: kinboshi on June 27, 2014, 10:01:36 PM
When you say reinvest, you probably mean pay off debts?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 27, 2014, 10:25:55 PM
Debts are all manageable board told koeman all money from transfers is available to him


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: kinboshi on June 27, 2014, 10:39:46 PM
Good news for Saints fans then. Be interesting to see who you sign.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 27, 2014, 10:42:38 PM
When you say reinvest, you probably mean pay off debts?

Southampton will spend > 50 million this summer. A journalist linked to saints whose news pieces I respect has said the club will be close to break even net on transfer spend this summer. Expect 6+ players to come in.

+ 70 million for shaw, lallana, lambert and lovren is good business for southampton. Can feel happy that those deals are decent money wise in a marketplace where keeping ambitious players is impossible when bigger clubs come calling.

Regardless of any transfers, southamptons finances are sound. We owe a bit for transfers along with every club in the league as that's just the way modern deals are structured.  


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Pawprint on June 27, 2014, 11:19:35 PM
Saints have two outstanding areas of 'debt'

The first is around £15m of staged payments for previous transfers

And the second is the cost of the new academy/training facility, which has been quoted around £30m

Neither of these have forced the exits from St Mary's.  Both the Shaw and Lallana deals were done prior to the World Cup


I think Mark's post about a break even transfer window is not that far off how it will breakdown.

Pretty sure Lovren will go, and it won't take a huge club to turn Schneiderlin's head.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 29, 2014, 02:35:52 PM
Schneiderlin to arsenal looks all set for as soon as France get knocked out I am not liking this as arsenal are not known for splashing big money and no fee has been mentioned yet


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 30, 2014, 07:40:04 PM
these comments are exactly how i feel and i supposed most saints fans this season

We spoke to Academy Manager Matt Hale after nine youngsters signed two-year scholarships with Southampton FC yesterday – http://youtu.be/M6uvQka8x5Q #saintsfc
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    Dennis Diamond Its sad that all Saints fans, myself included do not see a long term positive from this news. Saints have to convince these young stars that SFC is the future otherwise club does not have one above mid table in Premier league. Good luck to them anyway.
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    Sam Lawrence 9 more to sell on in a few years time I expect!
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    Derek John Lea We have become the selling team once again.
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    Ian Scott I wonder what clubs they'll play for? We used to wait until they were at least 20 before we sold them. Now, we are selling them at 18. The problem is that the clubs we sell them to get the benefit of their best years, then sell them for a huge profit, as Spurs did with Bale.
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    Tony Ogu Lucky guys.. Would love to be in their place some day
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    Clayton Gough Southampton is like a minor league base ball only difference is the players normal come up thru the ranks and stay with the team that made Em sfc should really consider giving more than one great season every 5-10 years
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    Jaebyung Choi Future liverpool fc players
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    Nathan Heffernan Nine more players to sell in a couple years just when we need them...
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    Gary Smart Give em 2 liverpool
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    Dom Carter I bet all their contracts have hefty sell-on clauses
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Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on June 30, 2014, 07:54:22 PM
what do you expect?

southampton, like my club, will always be a club that develops players and sell them on

virtually no prospect of breaking into the top 6-7 clubs, and came as close as you can to doing so last season, and if you have any success they will come knocking

no player is going to turn down champions league, top 6 etc

develop the next set of players, secure the future of the club, try and finish top half every year

can never get better than that under the current structure of british football


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 30, 2014, 08:23:49 PM
its just heart breaking if we could keep producing players like those that have come out of the youth academy in recent seasons
and hold onto them we could break the glass ceiling problem is we will never have the fan base of a man u or even a spurs or everton
to keep these players its why i was so disappointed and putting out a reserve team in FA cup last season in our chance to win something


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Teacake on June 30, 2014, 08:24:22 PM
what do you expect?

southampton, like my club, will always be a club that develops players and sell them on

virtually no prospect of breaking into the top 6-7 clubs, and came as close as you can to doing so last season, and if you have any success they will come knocking

no player is going to turn down champions league, top 6 etc

develop the next set of players, secure the future of the club, try and finish top half every year

can never get better than that under the current structure of british football

Great post although it is laughable that it needs explaining that this is the model that almost every club outside the top 6 or 7 needs to adopt. There is no shame in being a selling club.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 30, 2014, 08:27:24 PM
There is no shame in being a selling club.

easy to say when you support team that has fan base to win things

the joy aberdeen brought to 1000s of fans by picking up a minor trophey this year was unreal
and all fans should have the dream of winning things


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on June 30, 2014, 08:29:18 PM
even Liverpool is a selling club

real madrid, barcelona, bayern and probably united, city, chelsea are the only non selling clubs

whilst the domestic TV deals and rewards for successful european football are what they are, there is a natural order of things

a club like southampton can't get into the top 4, and get the success that will keep the good young players

ward-prowse, chambers, gallagher, schneiderlin will be next

southampton are fortunate that there is a scarcity premium on young british talent (and european squads demand a quota of home-country players) that drives prices high and allows them to maximise value

as a mid ranking french, portugese, german club you don't even have that protection....


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 30, 2014, 08:30:10 PM
that being said i like the look of the first 2 players koeman has lined up winger and striker combined fee of 18 million

problem saints will have is trying to fit 7 or 8 new faces into the team and getting them to gel

looks like spurs are in for Jay rodrigous now


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on June 30, 2014, 08:30:28 PM
its just heart breaking if we could keep producing players like those that have come out of the youth academy in recent seasons
and hold onto them we could break the glass ceiling problem is we will never have the fan base of a man u or even a spurs or everton
to keep these players its why i was so disappointed and putting out a reserve team in FA cup last season in our chance to win something

i agree with your last point, that FA Cup team selection was a baffling one

teams like southampton should be trying to win cups, best chance they have of success


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 30, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
its just heart breaking if we could keep producing players like those that have come out of the youth academy in recent seasons
and hold onto them we could break the glass ceiling problem is we will never have the fan base of a man u or even a spurs or everton
to keep these players its why i was so disappointed and putting out a reserve team in FA cup last season in our chance to win something

i agree with your last point, that FA Cup team selection was a baffling one

teams like southampton should be trying to win cups, best chance they have of success

guess i long for the days before the premier league and the ecl when any team could break out the pack and challenge
was it really that long ago that leeds and blackburn won titles

england always had that over all the other leagues in europe where teams always came out of the pack to challenge

every league in europe now has a cpl of dominating teams and we all know the title will be in the hands or 2 or 3 teams

spain with athletico was great this year someone coming and putting up a fight


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Teacake on June 30, 2014, 09:58:40 PM
There is no shame in being a selling club.

easy to say when you support team that has fan base to win things

the joy aberdeen brought to 1000s of fans by picking up a minor trophey this year was unreal
and all fans should have the dream of winning things

You don't think we are a selling club? We've always been a selling club, it used to be to big clubs like Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal now it's to wee clubs like Southampton! We are trying to compete with teams in Europe in the same way Southampton and the like are in England but we understand that we need to bring through our own players, source rough diamonds and sell them on at a profit because we get virtually no domestic TV money.

You don't need to tell me about Aberdeen either there is no excuse for how bad they have been for the last 20 odd years. I was going to Celtic home and away when we didn't win a title for 9 years and didn't win a trophy for 5.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 30, 2014, 10:06:48 PM
There is no shame in being a selling club.

easy to say when you support team that has fan base to win things

the joy aberdeen brought to 1000s of fans by picking up a minor trophey this year was unreal
and all fans should have the dream of winning things

You don't think we are a selling club? We've always been a selling club, it used to be to big clubs like Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal now it's to wee clubs like Southampton! We are trying to compete with teams in Europe in the same way Southampton and the like are in England but we understand that we need to bring through our own players, source rough diamonds and sell them on at a profit because we get virtually no domestic TV money.

You don't need to tell me about Aberdeen either there is no excuse for how bad they have been for the last 20 odd years. I was going to Celtic home and away when we didn't win a title for 9 years and didn't win a trophy for 5.

although you cant compete with the euro giants you still get some glory thats all supporters from smaller teams want
not celebrating cause we came 8th in the league and having to start the following season minus 8 players


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 01, 2014, 12:42:39 PM
Lallana transfer confirmed by saints an hour ago undisclosed fee


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: kinboshi on July 01, 2014, 01:38:42 PM
Lallana transfer confirmed by saints an hour ago undisclosed fee

£23M


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 01, 2014, 01:46:54 PM
Lallana transfer confirmed by saints an hour ago undisclosed fee

£53M
fyp


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 01, 2014, 03:28:49 PM
Such an exciting summer for Saints, looking forward to seeing all the new faces.

Last season was the best ever in our history. Very successful, lots to shout about and one of the most enjoyable teams to watch in the league. We will replace players and go again.

Could be worse, just ask that rabble down the road. Looking forward to being at Anfield first day.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 01, 2014, 03:32:00 PM
Such an exciting summer for Saints, looking forward to seeing all the new faces.

Last season was the best ever in our history. Very successful, lots to shout about and one of the most enjoyable teams to watch in the league. We will replace players and go again.

Could be worse, just ask that rabble down the road. Looking forward to being at Anfield first day.
without Hannibal lector playing and Liverpool choosing to add a lot of new players who will need to gel and the saints having to add new players could be a very exciting match


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on July 01, 2014, 04:37:29 PM
Think Southampton have done really well in terms of the fees they have received.  Just hope they don't simply overpay on bog average premier league players and waste it.  Would seem a bit pointless if they did that?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on July 01, 2014, 04:40:56 PM
Still don't think it is impossible for another club to get fourth.  Everton had a decent shot at it this year.  Need to back it up for a couple of years though to break the stranglehold, and make sure that whoever misses out, gets into a financial tailspin and has to cut their cloth accordingly.  Very hard though.

Agree with posters about the cups.  I don't know why all premier league clubs don't absolutely go for the cups.  If you finish 15th for the next 100 years, and always lose in the cup without trying, surely at some point the fans won't bother watching the utter mediocrity.
 
What a joke when Alladyce fielded the youth team at Forest this year and lost 5-0.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 02, 2014, 12:06:06 AM
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/12040/9367962/transfer-news-southampton-agree-fee-for-fc-twente-winger-dusan-tadic

from what i heard he is a perfect replacement for lallanna although i have never seen him play

reports are also coming in that pelle is close to be agreed too he has a better scoring record than lambert obvioulsy not in such a strong league

and we are competing with newcastle for Virgil van Dijk but celtic are saying he isnt for sale unless crazy money comes in
with the player saying he wants to play in the EPL lets see if celtic can do a better job of keeping there talent
in a way i want celtic to be able to keep him but i would like him at st marys and not playing aberdeen with celtic


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 03, 2014, 11:59:05 PM
FFS lovern believes the saints told him we were aiming for ECL football with the sell off of our assets he doesn't now believe it to be true so is going on strike if he doesn't get a 20 mill move to Liverpool

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/486493/Dejan-Lovren-could-go-on-STRIKE-to-force-through-Liverpool-move-after-20m-offer


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Pawprint on July 04, 2014, 02:49:09 PM
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Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on July 04, 2014, 03:03:58 PM
If Lovren goes, not sure I can remember a team selling so many key 1st team players in one go!  Shaw, Lallana, Lambert, Lovren.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 04, 2014, 03:05:46 PM
Don't forget schnierlin, rest all seem content at moment
Osvaldo wasn't key but is going too


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 04, 2014, 06:27:56 PM
ok was looking on the TfT fred today about which team was going to guy in the most players during the close season and the 16-1 on the saints look huge

looking at the first team squad currently we have 22 players in the first team squad which seems a fair number maybe 2-3 shy i always think 25 is a healthy number
so lets say saints need 3 players to get squad upto opitmium
but in that squad is 4 players 19 or under
James Ward-Prowse
Calum Chambers
Harrison Reed
Sam Gallagher
 players under 20 shouldnt really count in that 25 man squad they are really an addition there wages aer much lower
and they should be used gradually integrating into the team (not all of them are like shaw) so lets take down the squad to 18 meaning ideally we are looking at
getting in 7 new players

but wait in that 18 we have
Pablo Osvaldo
Morgan Schneiderlin
Dejan Lovren
Billy Sharp
all 4 are likely to leave sharp just hasnt the quailty for EPL and if a permanent team cant be found will find himself out on loan again

this take our squad down to 14 players meaning we are very likely going to need to buy in between 7 and 11 players to make a full squad

16-1 is HUGE


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 08, 2014, 07:14:42 PM
first of many i hope

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/08072014-statement-southampton-football-club-signs-dusan-tadic-1727227.aspx


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 12, 2014, 07:43:39 PM
2nd signing in the bag wonder if he brings viagra with him oh wait this guys got an extra l

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/southampton-sign-pelle-feyenoord-180149063.html


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 12, 2014, 07:56:59 PM
i have been checking out some videos of him he looks tall and powerfull and got a good touch

will be intresting to see how he fairs stepping up to the EPL but could be better than lambert


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 14, 2014, 08:32:30 AM
Liverpool are preparing a swoops for jay rodrigous now all over the tinternet, mirror actually describing him as an ideal replacement for Suarez lmao, Liverpool are supposed to be offering 19million hope saints ask for the 35m that pool paid for Carroll


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 14, 2014, 08:12:21 PM
first game of season against southampton old boys is going to be shown live on sky 1.30 on the sunday


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 15, 2014, 08:49:23 PM
i wish the transfer window would close soon

chambers is now also on arsenals shopping list


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 20, 2014, 10:04:17 PM
looks like lovern is finally going to leave after a transfer bid believed to be in the range of 16-25 million has been accepted

i cant see it being on the low end of that range as saints already turned down 20 million
also koeman has also stated today that he wont go unless a top price is met


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 26, 2014, 02:52:37 AM
Lovern price agreed with Liverpool North of 20million
Fonte 3.5 bid from Cardiff
16 million price accepted for chambers from arsenal

3 weeks till start of season looks like 4 defenders out none in yet


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: kinboshi on July 26, 2014, 05:25:09 AM
Erm, Iron - £16m with an additional £4m as add-ons isn't usually regarded as north of £20m.

Anyway, as a Saints fan how highly do you rate him as a centre-back?

Discussing him with other Liverpool fans, and there's a split of opinion. I think he's exactly what Liverpool need to strengthen the defence in the centre. Seems good in the air, decent with the ball at his feet, stays on his feet well but isn't afraid to put in a tackle when necessary. From the little I've seen of him, he also looks like he could become the marshall of the defence in the way Carragher and Hyypia were.

How do Saints fans rate him?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 26, 2014, 05:33:27 AM
I read it was 20 million with add ons but no mention of how much they were

He was easily one of the better cb in the epl last year annoyed we are losing him
Gonna be hard to replace

Fonte will be a lot easier to replace
Chambers was understudy to cylne anyway but long term much better


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on July 26, 2014, 05:40:10 AM
Can't remember a team selling as many key players although I think in all cases Southampton have got more than a fair price


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 26, 2014, 08:30:51 AM
Lovren is excellent. Very consistent, and a natural leader.

This has all got kind of ridiculous now with Chambers going as well. We can't turn down 16 million, its great money. We have got a good deal for everyone but we need players now.

It's no good getting great deals selling if you are just going to get fleeced buying. Everyone knows we need players so when we are in for people like Vlaar - we are going to have to pay top dollar. Looking forward to this window closing.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: tikay on July 26, 2014, 08:35:33 AM
Can't remember a team selling as many key players although I think in all cases Southampton have got more than a fair price

Extraordinary, really.

You build a team like that once in a lifetime. Whilst it was obvious they'd have to sell a few, as they are an "also-ran" Club, they seem to have systematically dismantled the whole thing.

Sadly, with so many departing, it must be worth looking at their odds for relegation, though we did that last season, & got our fingers badly burned.   


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 26, 2014, 11:27:49 AM
I would hang fire another 2 weeks on the relegation odds tony been linked with some quality players, just need to make a move and get them in team gelling, no point waiting till final days of transfer window


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Kmac84 on July 26, 2014, 12:11:00 PM
I can see Virgil Van Dyke ending up at Southampton now.  Ths would be a big loss for Celtic, I thought he was likely to end up at Liverpool as thought he'd fit in well with their style of play.   It was rumoured early in Summer when Koeman came in that VVD was on his list of targets. 


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 26, 2014, 12:15:37 PM
Yeah vvd and Forster going for about 20 million the pair, Celtic knew Forster was going before the signed Gordon , as much as I would love to see the pair in saints red  20million in celtics pocket is huge in a weak spl,


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 27, 2014, 07:08:02 PM
the following article in the daily xenophobe is highlighting my views earlier this summer
before the sales started we have or will have lost (including players released) a full team
so far we have had 2 players coming in we will need a new back 4 to come in
and we are also being linked with goalkeepers as koeman has lost the faith in boruc
so we need to get a back 5 to gel in less than 3 weeks and with still players being
linked away its going to be harder and harder to replace them in time for kick off
and likely going to have a bunch of teenagers in the line up against livelpool
one things for sure the 8.0 for saints to have most transfer before the end of the window is
looking better and better value

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2706585/Will-Southampton-players-left-call-big-Premier-League-kick-Saints-allowed-clubs-star-men-leave-exits-way.html


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 27, 2014, 07:15:33 PM
just got an email from southampton with the projected line up for the game v liverpool


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 27, 2014, 07:31:16 PM
moer meat to the saints for most signings in this article

http://www.vavel.com/en/football/premier-league/southampton/373084-southampton-time-to-rebuild-for-the-future.html



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 28, 2014, 12:10:26 AM
question do teams get taxed on player sales?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: celtic on July 28, 2014, 12:46:49 AM
I wouldn't worry about celtic getting 20m iron, it won't be spent.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: mickyw78 on July 28, 2014, 12:59:14 AM
How much did Southampton take in in total this summer from transfers?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on July 28, 2014, 01:16:35 AM
97 million so far


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 28, 2014, 01:51:26 AM
Southampton
In: Dusan Tadic (FC Twente, £10.9m), Graziano Pelle (Feyenoord, £9m).
Out: Luke Shaw (Manchester United, £30m rising to £31m), Adam Lallana (Liverpool, £25m), Rickie Lambert (Liverpool, £4m), Tom Leggett, Isaac Nehemie (Both Aston Villa, Undisclosed), Danny Fox (Nottingham Forest), Andy Robinson (Bolton), Lee Barnard (Southend United), Matt Young (Sheffield Wednesday).
Released: Lee Barnard, Joe Curtis, Guily Do Prado, Jonathan Forte, Andreas Sony.

add onto that lovern 20m and chambers 16m

btw i just cut and pasted the prices from the telegraph's transfer page as it is handy, i dont think we got 30 million for shaw was sure it was nearer 27 million

but in total its around 90-100 million and we still have osvaldo, fonte, schnierlin and roderigous likely to go which should bring up £150 million in sales if koeman does stick to his word of not letting schnderlin go for under £27 million


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 28, 2014, 01:49:24 PM
its not just me articles like this all other the place

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/football/eastleighfc/11369002._Getting_beyond_a_joke_and_our_worst_nightmare____Saints_fan_pens_open_letter_to_Southampton_FC_s_board/?action=complain&cid=12999181


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on July 28, 2014, 02:52:44 PM
Callum Chambers £16 million!??  Surely not.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 28, 2014, 04:44:58 PM
Callum Chambers £16 million!??  Surely not.

yeah signed today for a fee around 16 million


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on July 28, 2014, 04:59:12 PM
Well you can't say that Saints aren't getting top whack for their players I suppose!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 28, 2014, 05:07:40 PM
yep but getting top whack, but hard to replace the players we have lost espically now everyone knows we have over 110 million in from transfers and more to come

clubs we have sold to

aresenal, liverpool, man u all finish above saints year in year out

if we have kept those 5 players plus the 2 more that are likely to goto bigger clubs than the saints
and use the millions that we had supposedly had for transfers to purchase a cpl of players ourself
then saints could of been finishing in the top 6 next season
instead unless something happens soon we will be starting the season off with a team of kids
and by the time we get players in at the end of august and get them settled we could be in a relegation dogfight


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on July 28, 2014, 05:09:26 PM
Schneiderlin and Rodriguez to Spurs is imminent according to the local southampton journalists


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 28, 2014, 05:28:03 PM
Schneiderlin and Rodriguez to Spurs is imminent according to the local southampton journalists

yep although liverpool are tabling a last minute bid for rodriguez

fonte is going to cardiff as he wont sign an extention

the only player not planning boruc on leaving is the one we are closet to replacing with forster



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 28, 2014, 06:13:28 PM
This is so painful.

Been trying to be upbeat about it all Summer but this is just too much now.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on July 28, 2014, 06:18:24 PM
obviously top 6 clubs are not going to be turned down by manager or players

but is there a financial imperative for this, now that Cortese has gone?

if not why would you sanction all nine going?

how much would it have cost to buy the whole club?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 28, 2014, 06:18:39 PM
This is so painful.

Been trying to be upbeat about it all Summer but this is just too much now.

i am not so bad now as i knew it was coming and to be honest some of the players we are linked to are of a good quailty
proplem is being linked to them doesnt mean we will get them and we might just end up with joe blogs from notts forrest or tumshie from wolves


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: pleno1 on July 28, 2014, 06:19:07 PM
its like somebody is playing football manager 2013, selling all players for top dolla and trying to build a team


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 28, 2014, 06:22:34 PM
its like somebody is playing football manager 2013, selling all players for top dolla and trying to build a team

i do something similar when i start a game of footy manager i sell off anyone i dont fancy them build mainly from the free agents using the money from transfers for wages
but i never get that sort of money for the players


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 28, 2014, 06:24:53 PM
http://bettingzone.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/summer-transfer/premier-league-club-to-sign-most-players

still 8.0 for the saints when we have sold so many we will be there or there about

think true odds must be under 4.0


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 28, 2014, 06:51:29 PM
obviously top 6 clubs are not going to be turned down by manager or players

but is there a financial imperative for this, now that Cortese has gone?

if not why would you sanction all nine going?

how much would it have cost to buy the whole club?

I believe that the club is unofficially for sale. Regardless of that, there is no financial need to sell everyone.

We offered Rodriguez an enhanced new deal last week. It just seems to have become impossible these days to keep players against their will. Or is just us not being firm enough? After all that has gone on, you can't blame him for wanting to leave. He has seen the complete break up of an entire team.

The idea of a contract is pointless. Almost everyone we have sold had 4+ years left. Chambers at £16million is crazy. Literally just punting on potential. You can't turn down that sort of money especially when the player wants out.

Long chat with my Dad on the phone today, life long season ticket holder. He sounded emotional talking about it all, it's time like this that really open your eyes to what football is really all about. You can bury your head in the sand when the odd one or two good'uns go each year but so many is brutal.

Also there has been ZERO honest communication from the club about what is going on. Bearing in mind season ticket renewal has just finished (>£750), it's insulting to all those that have shelled out their hard earned money.

Still think we will stay up mind you.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 28, 2014, 06:54:36 PM
What are you thinking if your Fraser Forster? Pretty hard sell.

What is your reaction when Saints come knocking for your player as the selling club? We are now going to get fleeced for every player we are in for as everyone knows we need bodies.

It was a given in January that Lallana, Shaw and Lovren were very likely to go. Replacements should have been sorted in early Summer when our opportunity to negotiate was far stronger.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Karabiner on July 28, 2014, 07:04:08 PM
It's starting to look like an asset-stripping excercise to me, not dissimilar to what Portsmouth did after winning the cup.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 28, 2014, 08:37:01 PM
according the the premier league squad details we have 14 players over 21  43 of them are goal keepers and only 4 are HG after we sold oll the brits
obviously if we keep schnderlin and rodregious we get an extra 2 HG players


which player in his right mind will be signing to join the squad untill a few more quailty players are added

and someone need to be the first

if fonte goes we will have 3 defenders in squad including U21 players suppose we could play a 3-5-2 will be interesting


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Karabiner on July 28, 2014, 10:36:59 PM
according the the premier league squad details we have 14 players over 21  43 of them are goal keepers and only 4 are HG after we sold oll the brits
obviously if we keep schnderlin and rodregious we get an extra 2 HG players


which player in his right mind will be signing to join the squad untill a few more quailty players are added

and someone need to be the first

if fonte goes we will have 3 defenders in squad including U21 players suppose we could play a 3-5-2 will be interesting

It sounds as though one or two of your GK's might have to go...


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 28, 2014, 10:45:06 PM
according the the premier league squad details we have 14 players over 21  43 of them are goal keepers and only 4 are HG after we sold oll the brits
obviously if we keep schnderlin and rodregious we get an extra 2 HG players


which player in his right mind will be signing to join the squad untill a few more quailty players are added

and someone need to be the first

if fonte goes we will have 3 defenders in squad including U21 players suppose we could play a 3-5-2 will be interesting

It sounds as though one or two of your GK's might have to go...

think thats the idea keep 3 of them and sell and loan out the other 40 could make us a mint


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: tikay on July 29, 2014, 08:09:32 AM

For those that can, today's Times has a really interesting piece on what it calls the "pact" the senior players made before they all went off to the World Cup.

Many had been together at Southampton a goodly while, been part of the Club's steady rise, travelled & roomed together, da de da.

After the Executive changes, it suggests they made what amounted to a pact, that there be no recriminations or personal issues affecting their friendships, & respect, if any of them decided to move on.

The whole thing, this steady accumulation of good players, then the wholesale exodus, is a remarkable thing to watch from afar.

   


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: scotty2hatty on July 29, 2014, 12:13:07 PM
At least you've still got Wanyama


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Kmac84 on July 29, 2014, 01:28:13 PM
At least you've still got Wanyama

Think that's only because he got injured.  I must admit to having a huge man crush on big Vic though.  Reminded me of a young Davie Hay. 


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Doobs on July 29, 2014, 01:36:02 PM
Southampton relegation now 11/2 best from 12/1 earlier.  Presumably it is pretty hard to get relegated with 100 million in your back pocket... Though it is easier to see if it remains there. 


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: scotty2hatty on July 29, 2014, 01:36:22 PM
At least you've still got Wanyama

Think that's only because he got injured.  I must admit to having a huge man crush on big Vic though.  Reminded me of a young Davie Hay. 

He's like a young scotty2hatty.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 29, 2014, 06:04:08 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28542225

Fantastic news. Clarity finally and line drawn in the sand.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Tal on July 29, 2014, 06:39:33 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28542225

Fantastic news. Clarity finally and line drawn in the sand.

Players both reportedly want to leave, the manager has said he doesn't want to keep anyone that doesn't want to stay and there's still a month to go before the window closes.

It reads to me like a case of a value disagreement. Might be that spurs offer someone on loan or a makeweight (Ryan Mason has impressed on tour, Nabil Bentaleb did a reasonable job last season, Harry Kane or Adebayor might well be surplus to requirements), a bit like they did with Hull last year. Spurs have a thousand midfielders.

I am pleased to see the chairman is looking to make decisions in the best interests of the club. You can't keep selling without replacing.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 29, 2014, 07:11:34 PM
WOW

Morgan Schneiderlin ‏@SchneiderlinMo4 1m

6 years of an amazing journey #saintsfc DESTROYED in 1 hour !!!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 29, 2014, 07:14:22 PM
Toys well and truly out of the pram

Interesting to see if Chairman sticks by his word now.

Interview in full is here:-

https://audioboo.fm/boos/2359653-southampton-chairman-ralph-krueger-tells-bigadamsport-the-club-is-not-for-sale-and-neither-are-jay-rodriguez-morgan-schneiderlin

Certainly re-assuring.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 29, 2014, 10:03:02 PM
http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/29072014-ralph-krueger-on-jay-rodriguez-and-morgan-schneiderlin-1790653.aspx


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Tal on July 29, 2014, 10:26:50 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtvB3EqCcAAZUW_.jpg:large)


Must admit, that did make me laugh.

Phil McNulty tweeted that the reason he's upset is that he was told only spurs had bid for him.



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 29, 2014, 10:42:29 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtvB3EqCcAAZUW_.jpg:large)


Must admit, that did make me laugh.

Phil McNulty tweeted that the reason he's upset is that he was told only spurs had bid for him.



been told no one has bid for him yet


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 31, 2014, 12:35:26 AM
ok we have replaced luke shaw with a ECL winner
and he is also Home grown a little more experienced than shaw
loan with an option to buy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28576393


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 31, 2014, 12:39:13 AM
breaking news liverpool have bid 20 million for ryan bertrand


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: pleno1 on July 31, 2014, 01:18:45 AM
bertrand is really good, one of most underrated english players


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 31, 2014, 06:39:16 AM
Yeah I am happy with his signing even if it is just a loan ATM


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 01, 2014, 05:14:14 PM
seen this pic today

despite the assurance no more players are getting sold its still very likely morgan and jay will go
but only after a few more players are signed (3+ expected this week)

that will leave boruc davis fonte and cork from this line up against liverpool in march

with cork and fonte refusing to sign extensions and having only 1 year left on there contracts they could go also

koeman doesnt rate boruc and we are linked with any decent goalie

so first game against liverpool could have 10 changes from the game last season thats if davis gets a game

funniest story i have read this window is southampton being linked with hernadez of man u


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 01, 2014, 09:12:22 PM
would love to see it but think we have a better chance of finishing in top 4 than we have of signing him

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/01/southampton-to-battle-it-out-with-inter-milan-for-transfer-target-javier-hernandez-4818499/


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 01, 2014, 10:21:20 PM
LMAO

you cant make it up

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/11007085/Southampton-goalkeeper-Artur-Boruc-an-unlikely-target-for-German-champions-Bayern-Munich.html


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: kinboshi on August 02, 2014, 09:05:09 AM
breaking news liverpool have bid 20 million for ryan bertrand

Sure have.  Liverpool are after Moreno.

Bertrand will do a good job for Saints.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 02, 2014, 11:40:06 AM
breaking news liverpool have bid 20 million for ryan bertrand

Sure have.  Liverpool are after Moreno.

Bertrand will do a good job for Saints.
lol it was a joke after we signed him lol


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 03, 2014, 07:56:50 PM
triple raid on man u??????? doubt it but would be nice

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2014/08/03/southampton-eye-manchester-united-trio-in-70m-spending-spree-to-replace-lost-stars/


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 03, 2014, 08:42:58 PM
wages the issue there


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 05, 2014, 10:20:50 PM
2 more loans coming in this isnt helping build a stable side
after all we have close to £100 million come in from tansfers

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/southampton-revolving-door-continues-osvaldo-departs-taider-schelotto-160625066.html


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 06, 2014, 05:00:33 PM
4th signing 2nd loanee http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2153907-saphir-taider-to-southampton-latest-transfer-details-reaction-and-more

osvaldo has moved the other way on loan


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 06, 2014, 08:48:21 PM
Celtic definitely going out now so hopefully we can get the deal for Forster sorted before the season starts.

Need a centre back before next Sunday too - would be pleased to see Vlaar.

We have ran well with fixtures to start the new season and are going to need it. Expect us to be bringing in players right up to the wire.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 06, 2014, 08:52:43 PM
Celtic definitely going out now so hopefully we can get the deal for Forster sorted before the season starts.

Need a centre back before next Sunday too - would be pleased to see Vlaar.

We have ran well with fixtures to start the new season and are going to need it. Expect us to be bringing in players right up to the wire.

VVD from celtic could be on the cards as well as forster now celtic are out of Europe, they don't need the squad to win the spl


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 06, 2014, 09:16:19 PM
Celtic definitely going out now so hopefully we can get the deal for Forster sorted before the season starts.

Need a centre back before next Sunday too - would be pleased to see Vlaar.

We have ran well with fixtures to start the new season and are going to need it. Expect us to be bringing in players right up to the wire.

VVD from celtic could be on the cards as well as forster now celtic are out of Europe, they don't need the squad to win the spl

Yea, would also look to be a good signing.

I hope we don't feel forced to squander money in the next 3 weeks. It's a risk but holding back until January or, even better, next Summer would be much better. That gives Koeman more time to establish targets and build the team he wants.

With J-Rod and the grumpy french man now staying plus the recent loanees, the squad looks reasonably capable. Add Forster and a centre back for <£20 mill and that will be fine. Save the rest for a rainy day.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 06, 2014, 09:43:22 PM
I think we can add forster VVD +vlaar for<£30 million will give us a huge boost
infact I would say defensively we would be much better off than last season

pelle , tadic and taider give us more depth and from all reports we are not losing quality
they are a lot cheaper than the players we sold as they are not classed as HG
and we could still be in with a shout of getting rojo

all this and we wouldn't have spent half the money we got in and would have a much stronger squad

IF we can keep morgan and jay


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Teacake on August 08, 2014, 06:21:59 PM
The talk up here is £10m fee agreed to take Forster to Southampton.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 08, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
The talk up here is £10m fee agreed to take Forster to Southampton.

would be good thought it might be held up for the next round


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 08, 2014, 06:46:07 PM
fonte has signed a new 3 year deal ruling out a transfer to cardiff


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Teacake on August 08, 2014, 07:16:50 PM
The talk up here is £10m fee agreed to take Forster to Southampton.

would be good thought it might be held up for the next round

My thoughts were that he would be off after Champ League qualifiers, I'm thinking talks probably started yesterday before Celtic were put back in and probably too far down the line to turn back.

Good deal all round, Celtic have had 4 good years from Forster and received a very good fee, Southampton get a very consistent keeper with his best years ahead and Forster gets his Premiership move.
Newcastle are also due 20-25% of the fee.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 09, 2014, 10:49:55 PM
6 out 5 in so far

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/09082014-statement-fraser-forster-signing-1816904.aspx


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 09, 2014, 11:03:26 PM
looks like interest in vvd and vlaar has waned but these 2 targets look quality

also been hinted and another striker and a covering RB which will give us 9 new players
a lot of extra money in back and a better squad overall even if we have lost a couple of quality players


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Teacake on August 09, 2014, 11:34:01 PM
I'm not sure about VVD in the EPL , he was outstanding for Celtic last season but everyone knows the lack of quality in our league and I think his lack of pace will be exploited. The fact he was left out of the Dutch WC squad would be a concern as he was hardly being kept out by top class players.

We should still be able to get about £10m for him though :)

Read a decent piece on Fraser Forster earlier

Fraser Forster had a daily routine which verged on OCD.  He rose at 6:00, ate his first meal of the da 4dy, drove to Lennoxtown (while eating six pancakes, as it happens), then worked-out in the gym.  He stopped for ‘breakfast’ with the rest of the team, his third intake of the day, before training started at 10:00.

After training the players take lunch, then head home.  Fraser stayed, back to the gym, or some specialist work with goalkeeper coach Stevie Woods, before heading home at 16:30.  He was first to arrive and last to leave, every day.

This was his routine, broken only something as rare as a dentist visit.  Every biological and fitness measurement was documented with improvements targeted.

Years ago, he decided he was going to this year’s World Cup.  The personal relationship, which took visits to London to maintain, was put on hold.  The visits interrupted the work schedule for two days, which he couldn’t afford.



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: 77dave on August 09, 2014, 11:35:02 PM
How do you see your starting XI for first game of the season.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 09, 2014, 11:59:12 PM
ah my apologies I forgot to put a link it with my previous post about 2 quality defenders

vvd and vlaar intrest has waned and we are looking at rojo and gardos

also rumours are still going on about Hernandez but I still cant see that

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/11023688/Southampton-still-holding-out-hope-for-Javier-Hernandez-deal.html


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 10, 2014, 12:09:36 AM
How do you see your starting XI for first game of the season.

not 100% sure but the back 5 will be along the lines of

gk forster
lb Bertrand
rb clyne
crb fonte (cpt)
clb rojo or gardos

midfield will be intresting to see koemans preferred starters

schnerlin, cork, ward-prowse, wamyama, davis,rameriz from last season only lost lallana plus 2 additions in taider and tadic

with pelle replacing lambert up front


we lost 3 defenders got 2 in so far a mid got 2 in so far and a striker got 1 in so far

the players in/out haven't been at a huge cost in quality due to them not being home grown

I am optimistic about the future though it might take awhile for defence to settle


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on August 12, 2014, 10:03:25 PM
£12m fee agreed to take Shane Long to saints according to Sky.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 12, 2014, 11:14:02 PM
£12m fee agreed to take Shane Long to saints according to Sky.

Always looked a handful when I have seen him, think he will fit in well alongside Pelle / Jay-Rod. Only drawback is he has never really been prolific.

It's a lot of money but given Ulloa, Mcormack - I guess it's standard. Not like were short anyway so whatever.

Squad coming together very nicely now - has been a productive 3 weeks. Shame we couldnt quite nab Rojo. Gardos should be done this week as well in time for Sunday.





Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 12, 2014, 11:48:36 PM
Sharpe 450k to leeds just not quite good enough for prem


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on August 13, 2014, 10:20:18 AM
Hmmm - can't see the point in getting in a huge pile of cash on all your assets if you're going to spend sums like £12m on Shane Long.

Hull bought him for about £7 million about 5 months ago!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on August 13, 2014, 10:23:50 AM
Not that I think Long is bad by the way.  But I'd rather just keep Lallana than spend £12 million for standard premier league players.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Acidmouse on August 13, 2014, 01:06:41 PM
Sharpe 450k to leeds just not quite good enough for prem

Not sure long is prolific though. Happy to take Billy to Leeds for that money.

You only offered £4m for Byram but Leeds holding out for £8m which is peanuts for prem teams budgets these days.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 13, 2014, 04:20:43 PM
Sharpe 450k to leeds just not quite good enough for prem

Not sure long is prolific though. Happy to take Billy to Leeds for that money.

You only offered £4m for Byram but Leeds holding out for £8m which is peanuts for prem teams budgets these days.

yeah billy sharpe for 450k is a good deal for a championship side he is a great championship player just wasnt able to take final step to prem



Not that I think Long is bad by the way.  But I'd rather just keep Lallana than spend £12 million for standard premier league players.

classed as home grown so is to go for a premium as we are a few home grown players short of the 8 (over 21) then
its a needs must sort of transfer



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on August 13, 2014, 04:27:39 PM
Yeah - I'm sure he'll be solid.  Just feels like Saints made Hull an over they couldn't refuse - £5 million profit in 5 months.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 13, 2014, 04:31:41 PM
and with that its now been confirmed as we speak sharp moves to leeds

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/13082014-sharp-makes-saints-exit-1826910.aspx


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 13, 2014, 06:51:16 PM
saints get close to £50 million for lallana and shaw who are missing the start of season


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: celtic on August 14, 2014, 03:47:55 AM
saints get close to £50 million for lallana and shaw who are missing the start of season

I'd be more concerned with them spending 12m of it Long  and him not missing the start of the season :)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 14, 2014, 04:33:31 PM
saints get close to £50 million for lallana and shaw who are missing the start of season

I'd be more concerned with them spending 12m of it Long  and him not missing the start of the season :)

that's the long deal confirmed


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on August 14, 2014, 04:39:32 PM
i am afraid other clubs are seeing you coming

he signed for £6m in jan

4 goals in 15 games later its £12m

what's changed? not a lot apart from other clubs know you are forced buyer


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 14, 2014, 04:43:59 PM
i am afraid other clubs are seeing you coming

he signed for £6m in jan

4 goals in 15 games later its £12m

what's changed? not a lot apart from other clubs know you are forced buyer

also we only had 7 home grown players(over 21) in the squad now up to 8
but cork looks like going  and schnierlin (classed as HG)could be aswell
teams know we need to buy in players and need guys classed as HG to fill the squad

think he will do well but 3rd choice striker at best if everyone is fit 12 million too much


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: horseplayer on August 14, 2014, 04:52:04 PM
Long is just ok for me nothing more

Quick question who is going to score the goals/any goals for Hull this term?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 14, 2014, 04:57:16 PM
Long is just ok for me nothing more

Quick question who is going to score the goals/any goals for Hull this term?

have they still got jeliakic (don't ask me how to spell or say his name the guy who played for rangers then went to everton then hull)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 14, 2014, 05:46:26 PM
http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/14082014-announcement-florin-gardos-southampton-1829302.aspx

now we have a central defender in squad

7 in 6 out so far from last seasons 1st squad (+ Osvaldo and sharpe and a few freebies)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 14, 2014, 06:37:30 PM
i am afraid other clubs are seeing you coming


Nature of the beast. We have the money to throw our weight around a bit now and force transfers to happen. I am sure that we have paid over the odds but I still think it's OK business.

No one is quibbling over £5 million overspent on a player if you stay up at the end of the season. We have the money - we need to ensure our long term premiership position.

I am glad the chairman has stuck by his word. 6th highest spending club in the premier league this summer - just got to fit them together now.



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: horseplayer on August 14, 2014, 07:37:11 PM
i am afraid other clubs are seeing you coming


Nature of the beast. We have the money to throw our weight around a bit now and force transfers to happen. I am sure that we have paid over the odds but I still think it's OK business.

No one is quibbling over £5 million overspent on a player if you stay up at the end of the season. We have the money - we need to ensure our long term premiership position.

I am glad the chairman has stuck by his word. 6th highest spending club in the premier league this summer - just got to fit them together now.



When you see the price of Mccormack i cant believe Long is that overpriced really


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: kinboshi on August 16, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
i am afraid other clubs are seeing you coming


Nature of the beast. We have the money to throw our weight around a bit now and force transfers to happen. I am sure that we have paid over the odds but I still think it's OK business.

No one is quibbling over £5 million overspent on a player if you stay up at the end of the season. We have the money - we need to ensure our long term premiership position.

I am glad the chairman has stuck by his word. 6th highest spending club in the premier league this summer - just got to fit them together now.



Not just that. Prices have increased across the board in the PL along with the increased money the clubs are getting this season from TV.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 17, 2014, 11:05:44 AM
First look at the new boys in competive action today, just hoping  'the Southampton way' is still there don't mind losing as long as we are playing an attractive game and taking teams on


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 17, 2014, 03:07:33 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on August 17, 2014, 03:10:21 PM
why is this a cause for celebration when you recommended a bet on them to go down?

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Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 17, 2014, 03:25:35 PM
why is this a cause for celebration when you recommended a bet on them to go down?

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that's why I never celebrated on the TfT thread plus my recommendation was for £10

odds on relegation now on betfair 11/2 so the 14/1 was value


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 17, 2014, 03:27:25 PM
could always lay the £15 back now and freeroll for £100+


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Doobs on August 17, 2014, 03:46:34 PM
could always lay the £15 back now and freeroll for £100+

Is it value?

To be fair, think it is fine to be a fan here and still tip up the relegation bet.  If you start celebrating on TfT it is different.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 17, 2014, 03:47:33 PM
Keep on cheering Iron. Excellent performance.

Tadic looks a real talent. Bertrand, Clyne combo is electric. Wanyama, Ward Prowse in the centre were excellent.

Add a right winger and get Gardos fit and think the side will be very strong.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: kinboshi on August 17, 2014, 03:48:56 PM
Good performance from Southampton.  On that showing, plenty to be optimistic about.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Kmac84 on August 17, 2014, 03:49:44 PM
why is this a cause for celebration when you recommended a bet on them to go down?

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redic post


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 17, 2014, 03:52:59 PM
great performance from the team today despite no points

optimistic for the season ahead

yoshida didn't impress (but wasn't his fault for either goal)

but apart from that things are looking good

give the new players a chance to bed in and we could come out ok this year


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Tal on August 17, 2014, 03:55:33 PM
why is this a cause for celebration when you recommended a bet on them to go down?

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redic post

It's obviously tongue in cheek. Don't be so dramatic.

Showed up how weak Liverpool are at the back of the midfield. Liverpool will definitely get much better as they get more games. Both teams understandably a bit green around the gills, though, so hard to know what to make of it. Unlucky to get nothing out of the game, IMO.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 17, 2014, 03:56:57 PM
could always lay the £15 back now and freeroll for £100+

Is it value?

To be fair, think it is fine to be a fan here and still tip up the relegation bet.  If you start celebrating on TfT it is different.

I don't know if we can play like that week in week out then we wont go down
question is can we play like that week in week out
I would still say we are good enough to stay up but where the value line lies for us getting relegated I would say its somewhere over 6-1 and under 10-1
the 14-1 for me was still massive which is was proven with the current betfair exchange price


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Kmac84 on August 17, 2014, 03:57:52 PM
why is this a cause for celebration when you recommended a bet on them to go down?

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redic post

It's obviously tongue in cheek. Don't be so dramatic.

Obviously.  


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Killerkilsby on August 17, 2014, 03:59:11 PM
why is this a cause for celebration when you recommended a bet on them to go down?

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redic post

Totally agree regardless of bets you can still follow a team!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Kmac84 on August 17, 2014, 04:00:16 PM
could always lay the £15 back now and freeroll for £100+

Is it value?

To be fair, think it is fine to be a fan here and still tip up the relegation bet.  If you start celebrating on TfT it is different.

I don't know if we can play like that week in week out then we wont go down
question is can we play like that week in week out
I would still say we are good enough to stay up but where the value line lies for us getting relegated I would say its somewhere over 6-1 and under 10-1
the 14-1 for me was still massive which is was proven with the current betfair exchange price

Yoshida was terrible, Davis was a bit meh but overall you have to be happy.

Wanyama was an absolute boss, the boy with the double barrell name was very good as well.  

Think you need an out and out striker, I know it was the first game but yous looked suspect uptop.  


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 17, 2014, 04:04:17 PM
great performance from the team today despite no points

optimistic for the season ahead

yoshida didn't impress (but wasn't his fault for either goal)

but apart from that things are looking good

give the new players a chance to bed in and we could come out ok this year

could always lay the £15 back now and freeroll for £100+

Is it value?

To be fair, think it is fine to be a fan here and still tip up the relegation bet.  If you start celebrating on TfT it is different.

I don't know if we can play like that week in week out then we wont go down
question is can we play like that week in week out
I would still say we are good enough to stay up but where the value line lies for us getting relegated I would say its somewhere over 6-1 and under 10-1
the 14-1 for me was still massive which is was proven with the current betfair exchange price

Yoshida was terrible, Davis was a bit meh but overall you have to be happy.

Wanyama was an absolute boss, the boy with the double barrell name was very good as well. 

Think you need an out and out striker, I know it was the first game but yous looked suspect uptop. 

totally agree about yoshida but gardos will replace him as soon as he is fit
we still need defensive cover
pelle wont be playing against skirtle and lovern every week 2 of best CB in the EPL
I wont judge him on todays game
koeman has bought him twice before so knows what to expect


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on August 17, 2014, 04:04:32 PM
why is this a cause for celebration when you recommended a bet on them to go down?

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redic post

It's obviously tongue in cheek. Don't be so dramatic.

Obviously. 


yes, obviously

ironside and i go back ten years, he gets dry comments.

and its ridic, not redic!



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Kmac84 on August 17, 2014, 04:15:58 PM
why is this a cause for celebration when you recommended a bet on them to go down?

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redic post

It's obviously tongue in cheek. Don't be so dramatic.

Obviously. 


yes, obviously

ironside and i go back ten years, he gets dry comments.

and its ridic, not redic!



Clearly, that would be why he felt the need to defend his recomendation. 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=redic


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 17, 2014, 04:17:51 PM
is it really only 10 years lol

as per the original recommend and your comments in the bet
I would seriously think about laying £16.50 off on the befair exchange
it would mean tying up £100ish for rest of season but will give us a freeroll on the bets
I do think saints have played the market well and getting koeman in
and keeping a few of the players that was linked away means IMHO the 7.2 available for the lay is worth it
well I am a mug punter so I would be laying it before the price goes up with a good fixture list

potty looks very likely to be going to spurs now, he is talking to levy. with him going its going to be likely the squad is going to get broken up
with lallana and shaw already likely to go add into that lovern schneiderlin and ward-prowse

with intrest also going to be in chambers clyne rodrigeous and rameriez

the saints could easy be losing 6+ of the squad that got them up the table last year
and its going to be hard to attract players of a quailty to a "selling club"

the 2.25 for finishing in bottom half looks a good bet
as does the 15.0 for relegation even 10.0 looks value to me


maybe i am just being a pessimist but i would recommend £10 on both
Betfred would not lay me a penny at 14-1, I was going to put the £25 freebet on

totesport on the other hand

Bet receipt
Your selections

    Event: Premier League 2014-2015 - Relegation
    Time: 05-05-2015 15:00
    BS_MARKET: Relegation
    Selection: Southampton @ 14/1

Your Bets

    Win
    Single:
    Southampton
    1 line at £15.00 per line
    Total stake for this bet: £15.00
    Potential Return: £225.00
    No: O/0849138/0000013

    Total stake:£15.00
    Free bets/vouchers:£0.00
    Total cost:£15.00


i'd rather not do 2-1 bottom half with the bet to run for 15 months, and have the bit extra on relegation bet ironside if thats ok

I know a lot of money left the club when Cortese left, and some of the £ from the players will be re-invested but we have

a) new manager risk
b) getting new players in of sufficient quality risk

so i reckon 14-1 should shorten as it plays out


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 17, 2014, 04:18:33 PM
why is this a cause for celebration when you recommended a bet on them to go down?

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redic post

It's obviously tongue in cheek. Don't be so dramatic.

Obviously. 


yes, obviously

ironside and i go back ten years, he gets dry comments.

and its ridic, not redic!



Clearly, that would be why he felt the need to defend his recomendation. 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=redic

I always defend myself tighty wouldn't have expected anything else


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 17, 2014, 04:22:02 PM
but thanks for those that took the time out to defend me its appreciated just not needed here



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: kinboshi on August 18, 2014, 11:20:00 PM
I didn't.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 18, 2014, 11:35:05 PM
I didn't.

yeah but wouldn't expect anything less from you


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 22, 2014, 11:01:40 AM
Loving the rumour of andros Townsend although spurs want to include him in a deal for Morgan scheiderlin, koeman is saying Morgan isn't going


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on August 22, 2014, 11:08:34 AM
dramatic fall from grace for Andros.  Less than a year ago he was England's best player.  Now can't get in the Spurs team.  He needs a move I think.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 22, 2014, 11:14:04 AM
Yeah playing a season or 2 for the saints if the saints can perform will be a boost for him and it's not like Roy will ignore him for England if he starts playing like he can


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 26, 2014, 10:10:52 PM
pelle off the mark for the saints lets hope he can net a few more now
as he is in my dream team and cup games don't count


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 30, 2014, 04:40:37 PM
Taider at st Mary's on a season long loan  looks like bringing loaned out for rest of season lmao


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 30, 2014, 05:53:55 PM
from the reports I heard today and speaking to a Cpl of guys at game Southampton at times looked much better than last season today, although team is still bedding down
great to see pelle getting his league account open


now if we can just go to Monday with the lose of maybe just boruc and the addition of the a winger and maybe another defender I will be optimistic of a good season after al the turmoil
and hopefully battling it out for the best of the rest again this season


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 30, 2014, 07:23:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kgXj5y0ISQ&feature=youtu.be

this interview seems to make me believe there wont be a move away at last minute for Schneiderlin
fingers are crossed


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 31, 2014, 02:38:43 PM
Buzzing from the game yesterday.

Atmosphere was awesome and after we went behind, we were excellent. Tadic is a real steal, was clearly a level above the rest all afternoon. Massive kudos to Schneiderlin as well. Ignoring the goals, every bit of his game was spot on. His passing is just on the money every time. He won't be going anywhere now so at least we get one more good season from him.

Thought we looked really lively, particularly in the second half when we pressed higher up the pitch. Early days and we are still very weighted to left side attacks with no right wingers in the squad - I suspect we will pick one up in the next 48 hours. Very encouraging though - top 10 should still be the aim based on current squad and the competition.

As for West Ham - one of the worst performances I have seen in the premier league. Hoof ball rubbish, Noble the only player with any quality. I get they have a lot of injuries but the thought of watching that week after week...



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: kinboshi on August 31, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
dramatic fall from grace for Andros.  Less than a year ago he was England's best player.  Now can't get in the Spurs team.  He needs a move I think.

He played well today :D


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: horseplayer on August 31, 2014, 11:03:55 PM
Kristof Terreur ‏@HLNinEngeland  6m
Atlético Madrid and Southampton agreed terms on Belgian defender Toby Alderweireld. He'll sign tomorrow (by: @svenclaes)

very very solid player



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 01, 2014, 12:02:25 AM
Kristof Terreur ‏@HLNinEngeland  6m
Atlético Madrid and Southampton agreed terms on Belgian defender Toby Alderweireld. He'll sign tomorrow (by: @svenclaes)

very very solid player


phew I was worried after seeing vvd we were going to go for him now we need a right wing


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on September 01, 2014, 02:43:43 PM
Southampton cancel Saphir Taïder’s loan from Inter Milan after a month "having failed to live up to the high levels of commitment expected"


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 01, 2014, 03:19:58 PM
Taider at st Mary's on a season long loan  looks like bringing loaned out for rest of season lmao
Southampton cancel Saphir Taïder’s loan from Inter Milan after a month "having failed to live up to the high levels of commitment expected"


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on September 01, 2014, 06:50:28 PM
Toby Alderweireld and Sadio Mane both undergoing medicals at the moment.

Both look good and fill important gaps.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 01, 2014, 07:13:51 PM
Toby Alderweireld and Sadio Mane both undergoing medicals at the moment.

Both look good and fill important gaps.

what is even better than just signing 2 much needed quality players is that we beat off competition
of Newcastle and spurs for there signatures 2 teams about or just above us in perceived "pedigree"


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: RickBFA on September 01, 2014, 07:42:19 PM
How's that Southampton signing most players bet looking?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on September 01, 2014, 07:56:24 PM
How's that Southampton signing most players bet looking?

Not going to win. Think it's Liverpool.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: KarmaDope on September 01, 2014, 07:56:41 PM
How's that Southampton signing most players bet looking?

Not going to win. Think it's Liverpool.

Try West Brom ;)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 01, 2014, 08:30:54 PM
How's that Southampton signing most players bet looking?

Not going to win. Think it's Liverpool.

Try West Brom ;)

all depends on if he bookies include players for future squads or not


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 01, 2014, 09:46:40 PM
gaston ramierez off to hull on a loan??????


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: samurai on September 01, 2014, 10:12:54 PM
Big poll for yes in the independence vote in tonight's Sun according to BBC political man Nick Robinson. 7/2 with bald and bet everyday and 4.7 on betfair if anyone's interested?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on September 01, 2014, 10:14:34 PM
i think Southampton fans have other things on their mind...


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 01, 2014, 10:29:58 PM
i think Southampton fans have other things on their mind...

tell me about it still nothing confirmed on the 2 players coming in


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 02, 2014, 12:10:34 AM
http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20140901-announcement-toby-alderweireld-joins-southampton-1892206.aspx

another loan signing in defence we could have to do the same next season and look for more defenders


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 02, 2014, 12:18:19 AM
4 year deal confirmed for sadio mane

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20140901-announcement-sadio-mane-joins-southampton-1892373.aspx


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 02, 2014, 03:03:23 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bwe4ifhCIAAARQV.png:large)

really don't like our bet against the saints yes the price we got was value
that was shown by the price it traded at after all the sales the price is still
below the price we took but only marginally now

looking at the market I think saints could be stronger especially long term after this window

pelle should be able to provide the goals lambert did and is in his prime where lambert was on the decline
tadic is showing great promise to be as good if not better than lallana
Bertrand although not quite in shaw's league has more experience but still young also from all reports shaw has a fitness problem from end of last season and weight has been pulled but by roy and van gal
lovern/chambers 2 that will be missed I was bigging chambers up as englands next rb on world cup thread and lovern was one of top cb in epl last season but alderweireld/gardos could cover the loss anyone that remembers alderweireld from a few years back in championship manager will now he was a beast of a player in the game just hope that turns into reality
Osvaldo was a disappointment the first half of last season before we loaned him out long in to replace him adds depth to squad
Ramirez struggled to find his feet in epl last year mane again cant be any worse really
forster in as keeper number 1 and will be challenged till atleast Christmas by boruc gives us cover is a role we needed it last year

as the tipster of the saints to be relegated bet I am disappointed at how well koeman has done in the market as a saints fan I am very optimistic at the saints chances of being the best of the rest again this season


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on September 02, 2014, 03:13:44 PM
I think you'll be fine, but I think it's a tad optimistic to suggest you haven't been weakened!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 02, 2014, 03:21:52 PM
I think you'll be fine, but I think it's a tad optimistic to suggest you haven't been weakened!

short term we have been weakened as players will need to adjust but long term I think the players we have gotten in average age is much lower
and skills are on a par

chambers was only breaking into the team last year and lambert is now 32 and is going to warm bench at Liverpool I think pelle will be a great replacement

shaw lovern and lallana were stars of the team, but tadic has looked great so far, and we wait and see on the defence aslong as we don't need to rely on yoshida i'll be happy


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 02, 2014, 06:43:06 PM
anyone got a view on pelle for top scorer in league 100-1 with 1/4 for top 4

he has openly said he will be disappointed if he doesn't score at least 1 goal every other game

and although saints have other striker options he is the only one that is that penalty box goal scorer in the team
with the other attacking players being more the creative types


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 13, 2014, 05:54:16 PM
will be in 4th spot in the league after week 4 games are completed who could of envisaged this start when player after player left


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on September 14, 2014, 09:36:53 AM
Pelle looked really good yesterday. His hold up play was fantastic, already seems to know exactly where people are and looked dangerous all game.

Developed an early man crush on Alderweireld. Love a defender that is comfortable with the ball at his feet. A very natural replacement for Lovren.

Newcastle were terrible - perhaps worse than West Ham a couple of weeks ago. There really is some rubbish in this division, Williamson looked like he had never defended before.

Swansea away next will be a good yardstick of where we are. The squad looks really strong now - barely out of second gear yesterday with Mane and Jrod to come in. All in on the 8/11 top ten finish.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 14, 2014, 10:56:12 AM
I prefer the 4.0 for winner without big  7


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Pawprint on September 17, 2014, 01:25:28 PM
Not sure how the 4th goal hasn't received more love.

41 passes

Every one of the Saints team touched the ball in the buildup

No Newcastle player got a touch

GOAL

http://wall.saintsfc.co.uk/Article/783223-VIDEO-Schneiderlins-stunner-caps-41-pass-move


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on September 17, 2014, 01:33:19 PM
Not sure how the 4th goal hasn't received more love.

41 passes

Every one of the Saints team touched the ball in the buildup

No Newcastle player got a touch

GOAL

http://wall.saintsfc.co.uk/Article/783223-VIDEO-Schneiderlins-stunner-caps-41-pass-move

a good goal, and a great finish

to be fair though, no Newcastle player tried to touch the ball throughout the 41 passes..several were walking and not tracking back as well

a training routine as a result!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on September 20, 2014, 05:19:50 PM
Loving life!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 20, 2014, 06:42:56 PM
Loving life!

2nd in the league and unless city win by 3 tomorrow we will be 2nd before the next round of games


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 20, 2014, 07:17:52 PM
any truth in the rumours of lallana shaw and lovern all wanting to move to bigger club and asking the saints to take them back?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 23, 2014, 10:47:46 PM
great to see koeman taking the cup serious after last seasons debacle

alan green was raving about the saints players today which is most unlike him

sounded like a good performance all round for the saints

ok we were up against an inexperienced back 4


bad news about ward-prowse being out for 6 weeks though

i seriously think saints are a better team than last year and we still have JRod to add to the
team he will struggle to get in the front 3 with pelle , tadic , mane and long fighting for those spots


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on September 23, 2014, 11:16:36 PM


bad news about ward-prowse being out for 6 weeks though


10-12 weeks :-(

Another top performance


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 27, 2014, 07:18:37 PM
were on the march with koeman's army


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Doobs on September 27, 2014, 07:41:13 PM
were on the march with koeman's army

But not anymore? 


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: sovietsong on September 27, 2014, 08:12:49 PM
were on the march with koeman's army

But not anymore? 

lol


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 27, 2014, 10:32:10 PM

is that cause i is a cripple?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 27, 2014, 11:11:06 PM
just watching the match on the red button thought QPR scored a cracker of a goal till i saw pelle's goal

WOW


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Doobs on September 28, 2014, 12:59:56 AM

I didn't meant that, was grammer rozzering  http://grammar.about.com/od/words/a/weregloss.htm (http://grammar.about.com/od/words/a/weregloss.htm).  Think you meant "where on the march with Koeman's army"


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 28, 2014, 01:30:22 AM

I didn't meant that, was grammer rozzering  http://grammar.about.com/od/words/a/weregloss.htm (http://grammar.about.com/od/words/a/weregloss.htm).  Think you meant "where on the march with Koeman's army"

i know i was just messing i am pc less at the moment and my eyesight is going cant read my ipad screen

but i was supposed to type we're


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on October 04, 2014, 10:19:29 AM
Good summary of the last few months

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/11140340/The-inside-story-of-Southamptons-brilliant-start-to-the-Premier-League-season-under-Ronald-Koeman.html


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 04, 2014, 08:12:46 PM
pelle called up for the italy squad you think his price tag has just gone up?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: icles test on October 04, 2014, 08:20:42 PM
pelle called up for the italy squad you think his price tag has just gone up?

It was him or take your pick of the guff liverpool rotate atm


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on October 05, 2014, 12:03:50 AM
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/mporter123/pelle_zps3728235c.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/mporter123/media/pelle_zps3728235c.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: celtic on October 06, 2014, 12:54:46 AM
Is sadio mane the new ali dia? 😀


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 06, 2014, 01:50:11 AM
i havent seen todays game yet but he was top draw in his first game for us


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 14, 2014, 06:33:39 PM
pelle scores on his international debut to save italy scrappy goal right place right time

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m9SvKvu3k8


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 17, 2014, 06:10:42 PM
pelle gets player of the month with koeman getting manager of the month the dark days of the summer exodus are behind us


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 18, 2014, 05:07:24 PM
we want 8 we want 8

come on guys


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 18, 2014, 05:14:05 PM
time left for double figures?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TheDazzler on October 18, 2014, 05:41:00 PM
I have to say at the time, I thought you naming the Southampton thread 'Koeman is a saint' was a mistake. I smugly thought to myself that 'this fella might be out the door by Christmas' and he'll have to start a new thread called 'Arry is a Saint............again'.
But no. I think with what happened over the summer, most neutrals will be thrilled with your success.
Enjoy it sir!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 18, 2014, 05:58:09 PM
I have to say at the time, I thought you naming the Southampton thread 'Koeman is a saint' was a mistake. I smugly thought to myself that 'this fella might be out the door by Christmas' and he'll have to start a new thread called 'Arry is a Saint............again'.
But no. I think with what happened over the summer, most neutrals will be thrilled with your success.
Enjoy it sir!

i am enjoying it while it lasts which wont be much longer as we had a very easy start to season so far
we have only met 2 teams that finished above us last season and lost both those games

if we can repeat last seasons 8th spot it will be a great season


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: baldock92 on October 18, 2014, 06:54:11 PM
Unbelievable result today, I thought after Sunderland did us (stoke) 3-1 last time out they'd put up a bit more of a fight!!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on October 18, 2014, 11:24:46 PM
Brilliant day. Sunderland were atrocious.

I don't doubt any more that this team is better than last years and that's remarkable given the Summer. Tadic is on a completely different level, love watching him.

Looking forward to the test of playing the big teams in the next couple of months.

Stoke at home, Hull away, Leicester at home. Will be a third of the way through the season at that point!

Tests against Arsenal, Man U, Everton and Chelsea after that. 2/1 the top 6 finish... who would have thought it.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 19, 2014, 03:52:11 PM
Brilliant day. Sunderland were atrocious.

I don't doubt any more that this team is better than last years and that's remarkable given the Summer. Tadic is on a completely different level, love watching him.

Looking forward to the test of playing the big teams in the next couple of months.

Stoke at home, Hull away, Leicester at home. Will be a third of the way through the season at that point!

Tests against Arsenal, Man U, Everton and Chelsea after that. 2/1 the top 6 finish... who would have thought it.

after the leicester game we have 9 games run where we play man u twice arsenal twice chelsea, man city, and everton and away games at palace and burnley

so 7 out of the 9 games against teams that finished above us last season obviously IF/when we start dropping points people are going to start calling it a drop in form
espically if we get 2 or 3 defeats in a row

i would be very happy if we get 10 points over that 9 game stretch 8 or 9 points would be ok
anything more than 10 will be a good return although the media will be knocking the saints
will be good if we can get 7 points from next 3 games tough to put us in great position of making 8th or better at the end of season


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Pawprint on October 24, 2014, 12:19:58 PM
Genius

http://youtu.be/ktDD-JhbT30

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktDD-JhbT30


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 29, 2014, 10:09:51 PM
too close for comfort today saved by the red card


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 29, 2014, 10:39:26 PM
just seen pelle's first goal looks a cracker


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 30, 2014, 01:38:39 AM
think there might be interest in him in the summer if his form continues like this

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7RTRin6OxY


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 07, 2014, 01:37:10 AM
i cant believe the bookies

they have no made the saints odds on to finish in top 6
we are shorter odds to win the league than liverpool, tottenham and everton

have they not seen who we have played and beaten and who we have got beaten by?

i will be happy with 8th again and finishing above newcastle

if we are still in top 4 come christmas i might start dreaming of a top 6 finish


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on November 07, 2014, 01:20:33 PM
This is way beyond a lucky run against poor sides, this team is the real deal. Think big.

Considering where we are now, 8th should be the minimum expectation. Europe is a realistic aim. 3/1 to make the top 4!

Cannot wait to see this side tested in the run up to Christmas. Feels like this is the season where we have the seize the moment and secure top 6. Really looking forward to Saturday, this team is just such a great watch.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 07, 2014, 01:43:42 PM
I just don't want to get hopes up to high
We have only played 2 sides that finished above us last season
And lost them both we need to be taking points off those teams
If we are  marching forward, we are also lacking in depth compared
With last seasons top 7

That being said fm15 out today got my copy installed off to take us into europe


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 09, 2014, 06:44:35 AM
wow our next 4 games are live on tv and then the game against chelsea inbetween christmas and new year is on too

dont think we have had that many live games on in such a short space of time

wonder if we are still a top 4 side when the chelsea game comes round


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 20, 2014, 10:07:14 PM
liverpool are expressing an interest in clyne but the saints are offering him a bumper new deal

lets hope we dont get another transfer window like the last one


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: celtic on November 21, 2014, 07:11:14 AM
liverpool are expressing an interest in clyne but the saints are offering him a bumper new deal

lets hope we dont get another transfer window like the last one


Why not? The last one improved your team massively.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 21, 2014, 07:20:49 AM
liverpool are expressing an interest in clyne but the saints are offering him a bumper new deal

lets hope we dont get another transfer window like the last one


Why not? The last one improved your team massively.

massively is debatable overall i would say we are slightly better short term but long term loss of chambers and shaw is huge


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on November 21, 2014, 11:21:02 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B29aEVBCEAAUxiv.jpg:large)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on November 21, 2014, 01:10:50 PM
The only area where I don't think we are better is Tadic is not a better player than Lallana yet.

We are stronger in every other area. I don't rate Luke Shaw that highly yet anyway but agree on Chambers.

Clyne and Bertrand are the best fullbacks we have ever had at St. Marys.

Important that we beat Villa this weekend.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 21, 2014, 06:12:28 PM
Losing shaw and chambers long term isn't good but short term we are fine hopefully we will activate Ryan's and Toby's buy outs

We are a better side this year with more depth but we are not massively better

Pelle for lambert long term was great move pelle is already better player imho



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: celtic on November 21, 2014, 06:54:50 PM
Ok then. The transfer window made your team just better.

Still don't see why you would be worried.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 21, 2014, 08:07:51 PM
Can't pull rabbits out the hat all the time, Clyde is top draw imho would be hard to replace, most of rest have either just joined club or signed new deals. Think schnerdlin and rod rodregious would be the other 2 with teams linking for them


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on November 23, 2014, 07:14:02 PM
(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/mporter123/B3I72a3IIAAT5xH_zps4aad0b3d.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/mporter123/media/B3I72a3IIAAT5xH_zps4aad0b3d.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 29, 2014, 08:46:08 PM
tough 3 games in next 7 days

home to both manchester sides and and an away trip to the gunners inbetween

guess we will find out how good we are soon

could cermet our position in top 4 or slide right behind all 3 of those clubs


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on November 30, 2014, 03:48:44 PM
man alive Schneiderlin going off made a big difference

midfield was a very good contest with him in front of the back four

without him, less so


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 30, 2014, 03:53:19 PM
Squad depth is showing up badly  been replaced by a defender

Cork Davis ward-prowse all injured and schnerlin now too

Going to be a long week


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 30, 2014, 04:20:05 PM
Sohoolboy error Davis isn't injuried


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: pleno1 on November 30, 2014, 05:07:18 PM
should go for fabian delph


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: redarmi on November 30, 2014, 05:09:40 PM
man alive Schneiderlin going off made a big difference

midfield was a very good contest with him in front of the back four

without him, less so

Totally this.  He is so important to them defensively because of the way he executes that high press.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on November 30, 2014, 05:30:01 PM
man alive Schneiderlin going off made a big difference

midfield was a very good contest with him in front of the back four

without him, less so

Totally this.  He is so important to them defensively because of the way he executes that high press.

do you follow michael caley on twitter?

i am not sure i understand the stats he uses, but he was making this point earlier too


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on December 03, 2014, 10:06:03 PM
Sigh. Looked relatively comfortable until we lost Toby.

Very solid defensively, hope Schneiderlin isn't out too long with Cork going off tonight too. Midfield decimated with those injuries.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 03, 2014, 10:06:59 PM
injuries crushing now


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Kmac84 on December 08, 2014, 07:36:50 PM
How do we see tonight going Soton fans.  I'm still not convinced on United, but Soton injures are sure to take their toll.  I am thinking the draw might be the play.  Possible even unders. 


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 08, 2014, 08:16:08 PM
anything we get will be a bonus

3 more winable games coming up


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 08, 2014, 09:25:40 PM
if i was an alien an had no idea which team was which and was told one were one of teams were filled with expensive world class talent that play in the ECL most seasons
and one team was playing in league 1 4 years ago i would have gotten the teams mixed up


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 08, 2014, 10:24:18 PM
rub of the green is what this team needs

and maybe a little belief but if fans like me arent believing makes it harder for fans too


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on December 08, 2014, 10:28:19 PM
Was always going to happen iron. They'll fall away now


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on December 08, 2014, 10:35:29 PM
No idea how we lose to a United side that poor. Clueless tactically considering we were so depleted.

Lots of positives, nothing not to believe in Iron.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 08, 2014, 10:37:40 PM
Was always going to happen iron. They'll fall away now

we have 0pts this season from teams that finished above us last year but only dropped 4 (i think off top of my head) to the rest

i dont think we are going to fall away but will likely finish where i expected all along fighting for 8/9 with newcastle anything better with be a foresyth


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 08, 2014, 10:41:51 PM
No idea how we lose to a United side that poor. Clueless tactically considering we were so depleted.

Lots of positives, nothing not to believe in Iron.

has gardos had a look in yet i know he hasnt started in the league but has he come off the bench or played in the cup?

we are short on depth but that was always the case last season too
and it is hurting this season that the players are missing during the games against the bigger teams


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 08, 2014, 11:25:50 PM
nice to hear a honest manager

LVG to sky sports

"In the second half we were better. But I think Southampton played better than Manchester United yet we were the lucky guys."



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on December 16, 2014, 09:39:45 PM
Real rubbish this, barely created anything meaningful at Burnley and nothing so far tonight.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 16, 2014, 11:57:39 PM
Thought we would of put out a stronger team tonight no tadic or pelle we had to aim for a cup this season imho.

Good to see Morgan and jwp both back and starting though


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on December 17, 2014, 12:02:12 AM
Was always going to happen iron. They'll fall away now


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2014, 12:08:42 AM
Thought we would of put out a stronger team tonight no tadic or pelle we had to aim for a cup this season imho.

Good to see Morgan and jwp both back and starting though

It is ridiculous teams like Southampton put out weak teams for the League Cup.

They aren't going to be relegated and they aren't going to make Europe.

What is the point of their existence if they don't try and win a cup?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on December 17, 2014, 12:11:12 AM
Agree with camel. Don't get this modern trend at all


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 17, 2014, 12:36:07 AM
Keith my point exactly


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on December 17, 2014, 09:26:04 AM
Pelle was suspended. We rested two players last night. Tadic and Alderweireld.

I wouldn’t have given Tadic more than 5 out of 10 for the last 4 games so have no issue with him being rested/dropped. Gardos should have been perfectly capable of filling in for Alderweireld.

The rest of the team was a complete first team that would have been the same for Everton before Wanayama and Schneiderlin got suspended. I wonder whether those two fancied a rest, their bookings were cynical and stupid. Mane is also a walking red card, should have got a straight red against United and tried his hardest to get sent off last night.

Shane Long cannot lead the line but we knew that before we signed him. Tough 4 weeks coming up.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on December 17, 2014, 09:51:19 AM
Thought we would of put out a stronger team tonight no tadic or pelle we had to aim for a cup this season imho.

Good to see Morgan and jwp both back and starting though

It is ridiculous teams like Southampton put out weak teams for the League Cup.

They aren't going to be relegated and they aren't going to make Europe.

What is the point of their existence if they don't try and win a cup?

Last season was more criminal.  FA Cup played the reserves from memory against Sunderland (?) when top 10 in the league assured.  I get West Ham doing it last year when they are in a relegation battle to be fair.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 26, 2014, 11:10:01 PM
back to back wins including the win vs everton
means the only teams we have dropped points to that finished below us last season are the loss at burnley
and the draws with WBA and villa

3 games coming up where we are not favourite and likely by the time we play newcastle away we could be underdogs
thats if we fail to pick up points but i am not worried about the next 3 games if we get something we get something
aslong as we keep performing well and picking up point in games against smaller clubs we will finish in a nice position
although it would be nice if we can get something against bigger clubs


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on December 30, 2014, 11:07:32 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B6F8O9ICQAAXX5j.jpg)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 01, 2015, 11:56:52 AM
Arsenal look a big price at 7/4 today.

Will be interesting to see how we cope without Schneiderlin again and no Clyne. James Ward-Prowse coming back has made a big difference the last few games.

Have bet Arsenal but can't wait for the game - think it will be a cracker!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 01, 2015, 06:08:19 PM
what a perfect start to the new year

still in the top 4 and we are now just over half way in the season
having played every time once and arsenal twice i am still not going to get to excited
but we have as good a chance as we are likely to get for ECL next season

koeman just needs to keep his head during the transfer window
sneijder is being linked to us aswell as the top sides because of koeman
but IMHO would not be great due to the wages he would want compared to the other players


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 02, 2015, 10:48:50 AM
Another great day out yesterday, we have defended so well this season. Not sure what has happened to Mane the last few weeks either but he has been exceptional playing just off Pelle. Shame we lose him to Africa but looking forward to seeing Eljero Elia who is a similar player.

No chance of Sneijder, Koeman has said he has the same agent so knows the wages would be impossible. Not sure he would really fit in the system anyway.

Need a striker, I think that would be Koemans priority given J-Rod has no return date.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: horseplayer on January 02, 2015, 10:50:57 AM
Really not sure about Elia has been awful for Werder since he has been there some talent there and lots of pace though, hardly a risk tbf

Sneijder would be a massive risk, as Mark says not a chance you could pay his wages and i am not sure he actually improves you a lot in his current state


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 02, 2015, 10:54:07 AM
Would like to see us go for Danny Ings. I don't think he will go this window but try and tie something up for the Summer when his contract is up.

Southern boy and think he is good enough.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on January 02, 2015, 11:17:36 AM
Will Saints be taking the FA Cup seriously this year guys?  I seem to remember Potch fielding reserves last year?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 02, 2015, 11:26:17 AM
We have a relatively small squad and have a lot to play for in the league.

I suspect we will be taking it as seriously as we did the League Cup. I wouldn't expect a completely different team - perhaps 2 or 3 changes. Ipswich are a decent side so need to take them seriously.

Saying that, I have never had any love for the FA Cup so am not particularly bothered. It would be nice to have a run but it's also a good opportunity to blood the burgeoning talent that continues to flow through.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on January 02, 2015, 11:43:25 AM
Indeed - at some point 4th has to become a realistic prospect.  Especially if the like of Arsenal/Liverpool continue to be inconsistent.

Starting to think Spurs might even come up on the rail as well.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 02, 2015, 08:22:55 PM
i always thought that we would not be in top 6 after December's and early January's fixtures
but the 4 points in last 2 games has given us a great chance now to go for a top 4 spot
question has to be now though what would be preferable 4th in league or potentially winning FA cup

money wise saints would be better off if we can get into ECL but 4th spot only get us a play off with a side from another top nation
saints squad certainly isnt big enough for ECL and bringing in enough players would start to fracture the spirit built up

maybe going for the FA and a uefa spot this season would be better in long run while a squad in put together


as for transfers i would like to see townsend come in if he is affordable


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Kmac84 on January 02, 2015, 08:39:18 PM
Does Champions League/Europa League football put Soton at risk of relegation? 

I know it was muted on TfT as a bet for this season and I think Koeman has done a tremendous job by getting the best outhis new signings and seemingly replacing much of the overpriced players they moved on. 

Realistically though are Southampton at the level yet that they could take on Europe and EPL duties?

I root for Soton almost every week as I have a man crush on Wanyama.   When he was originally being hung out to dry by Celtic supporters I remained steadfast in my support and then it all changed way to Hearts on Sunday afternoon and he never looked back. 

Will Soton hold onto him in the summer? 


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 02, 2015, 09:16:24 PM
TfT got a bet on saints to go down this year recommended by me
it was a good value bet got on at ~16.0 and i recomended we greened out at ~6.0
after the first game but it never happened

if saints get 4th we will need to play off to get into ECL against one of the bigger nations
if they get through that then they will have plenty of money to spend but realistically
we will have trouble getting the players in that we would need without offering seriously increased wages

even then take a look at man city its not easy to get the results to progress
it would also seriously hamper saints next season in the EPL


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 03, 2015, 12:33:36 AM
http://sportsworld.nbcsports.com/pl-download-the-southampton-way/

This is a great documentary on Southampton - an insight into the youth system and general running of the club. Moneyball ftw.

As for Europe/Champions League putting us at risk of relegation, the squad would just be adapted - the same mix of home grown talent through from the pipeline and more overseas imports. I don't think it would hurt us, would just need to be planned for accordingly.

Europe will always mean you can attract a higher calibre of player anyway regardless of wages. Lallana didn't leave this Summer for money, ditto Schneiderlin wanting to move on. They want to progress themselves and play on a bigger stage (+ more money).

It's hard not to like Wanayama, he works so hard every game. Passing can be a bit ropey but a good tackler and we have other passers. Never heard anyone linked with him and he seems happy so no reason he will leave.




Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 03, 2015, 04:27:46 AM
I really enjoyed that program mark

Hopefully I will get down to visit my brother sometime this year
And fit in a game might have to be a pre season game as with most
Clubs wheelchair sections are normally over subscribed


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 06, 2015, 01:35:34 AM
rumour mill is still flying about koemans intrest in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Martins_Indi

would be a huge signing for the saints as we lack depth and cover in the defence
but our defence has been one of the best in the league

might be a better signing this summer depending on if toby stays or goes
i am presuming ryan will stay


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 07, 2015, 01:39:19 PM
Shocked but pleased to see the saints/Ipswich game being shown on the bbc ahead of 2 all prem replays but I guess they see that as best chance of an upset


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 08, 2015, 11:03:01 AM
Rickie lambert being lined up for a move to palace will be a shame he must of know when he signed he was unlikely to get many starts

But with sturidge out and mario.out of favour yu would of thought he would of been given a run


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on January 08, 2015, 11:46:53 AM
next Barca manager market is a bit worrying

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B60qSMHCQAEB1YY.png)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on January 08, 2015, 11:55:03 AM
Oscar though!



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 08, 2015, 06:48:14 PM
next Barca manager market is a bit worrying

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B60qSMHCQAEB1YY.png)

any vacancies in any top english or european sides is going to be worrying


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 10, 2015, 08:00:49 PM
wow after todays results Unless the saints arsenal have a 10 goal swing tomorrow we are going to finish the run of bad games in top 4

we have a good chance now of finishing there although top 8 still looks more likely IMHO

if we can get something at old trafford i would be very happy 3 points moving us into 3rd and i would be ecstatic

#Livingindreamland


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 11, 2015, 06:23:29 PM
Was always going to happen iron. They'll fall away now


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 11, 2015, 06:29:34 PM
dont think mr bedi will see your quote as a man u fan he will be scared to come on this thread for a few weeks till man u climb above us again #livingindreamland
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NaxOrUL7bM


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: david3103 on January 11, 2015, 08:24:13 PM
I'm not afraid.

We were poor today, but you created the perfect storm for that to be the position.

Wouldn't want to back us vs you in a Match Bet for the rest of the season.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on January 11, 2015, 08:30:15 PM
I'm still pretty sure you won't be up there.

This thread tilts me the most cos of Irons zzzzz small club we will be ok posts


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: arbboy on January 11, 2015, 08:33:30 PM
I'm not afraid.

We were poor today, but you created the perfect storm for that to be the position.

Wouldn't want to back us vs you in a Match Bet for the rest of the season.

I would at evens.  Happy to bet Manure at evens to finish above Soton if anyone wants to back Soton.  PM me.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: The Camel on January 11, 2015, 08:52:12 PM
next Barca manager market is a bit worrying

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B60qSMHCQAEB1YY.png)

any vacancies in any top english or european sides is going to be worrying

6/1 Oscar Garcia is the funniest joke ever.

If he gets the job I'll run around the Nou Camp naked.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: horseplayer on January 11, 2015, 09:01:00 PM
Pretty sure he turned down the sporting director job there last week!

Wants to work in England again. Barca love him always been linked with them


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: kinboshi on January 11, 2015, 09:03:06 PM
Loved the Southampton fans chanting "We are staying up, we are staying up!"

:D


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 11, 2015, 09:09:07 PM

This thread tilts me the most cos of Irons zzzzz small club we will be ok posts

but we are a small club

and i think i have only just come round to the fact we might finish top 6 or 4 that doesn mean i think we are one of 6 biggest clubs in england (i think leeds are bigger for example)
our stadium only just makes it into the top 20 in the english league
most of my posts after season started have been yeah we might do as well as last season


do i think we will finish above liverpool, man u, arsenal and spurs ? if you asked me before the chelsea game i would say we would finish behind all of them
today i would say we have a chance of finishing above 2 or more of them



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 11, 2015, 09:11:06 PM
Loved the Southampton fans chanting "We are staying up, we are staying up!"

:D


we need 3 more points to be safe IMHO (west ham had 42 and went down once)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 11, 2015, 10:32:45 PM
I'm still pretty sure you won't be up there.

This thread tilts me the most cos of Irons zzzzz small club we will be ok posts

We were in League One four years ago, might take a while to start giving it the billy big bollocks.

Not one for the neutrals today but a top defensive performance and took the chance when it came. 1/4 top 6 now, all we can do is keep putting the pressure on.

Alderweireld has done his hamstring so good chance for Gardos to step up while Yoshida is away - he did very well today.

Next 7 games:-

New (a)
Swa (h)
QPR (a)
WH (h)
Liv (h)
WBA (a)
CPAL (h)

Looks really tasty. Cannot wait for that Liverpool home game.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: tikay on January 12, 2015, 07:50:14 AM
I'm still pretty sure you won't be up there.

This thread tilts me the most cos of Irons zzzzz small club we will be ok posts

I can cope with that, even though he repeats it endlessly. S'oton fans don't often enjoy these giddy heights, so good luck to Iron, & them.

What I do struggle a little with, every time I open the Betting Boards, is this.....

koeman is a saint

I would so prefer......

Koeman is a Saint



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: david3103 on January 12, 2015, 08:54:18 AM
I'm still pretty sure you won't be up there.

This thread tilts me the most cos of Irons zzzzz small club we will be ok posts

I can cope with that, even though he repeats it endlessly. S'oton fans don't often enjoy these giddy heights, so good luck to Iron, & them.

What I do struggle a little with, every time I open the Betting Boards, is this.....

koeman is a saint

I would so prefer......

Koeman is a Saint



If only there were a Mod posting in the thread that could alter it ...


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 12, 2015, 10:30:03 AM
Sorted


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Doobs on January 12, 2015, 10:46:35 AM
Sorted

aRE yOU sURE?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 12, 2015, 10:48:20 AM
no not sure, I am Iron ! Nice to meet you


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 12, 2015, 11:47:32 AM
I feel a little for rickie lambert, in the summer he signed for the only team IMHO he would leave the saints for, but now faces prospect of losing a place in squad of  25 at Liverpool and being offloaded to west brom or crystal palace. Must be hard to be at the peak of your career suddenly to get a dream move and for it to fall flat.

Think he will struggle to get another England cap too.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: marcro on January 13, 2015, 06:07:00 PM

You need a capital S as in Saint


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on January 13, 2015, 06:13:56 PM
Or call it Southampton FC?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: david3103 on January 13, 2015, 11:20:44 PM
Or call it Southampton FC?

Koeman is a Southampton F C?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DropTheHammer on January 14, 2015, 12:30:38 AM
I feel a little for rickie lambert, in the summer he signed for the only team IMHO he would leave the saints for, but now faces prospect of losing a place in squad of  25 at Liverpool and being offloaded to west brom or crystal palace. Must be hard to be at the peak of your career suddenly to get a dream move and for it to fall flat.

Think he will struggle to get another England cap too.

Don't feel sorry for him - he had a chance playing for the club he supports for a truck-load of money! We haven't played him enough IMO (he should never be behind Borini in the pecking order ffs). He'd have left for any top 4 club also  :)up

Generally, I've never been a fan of England picking players who aren't starting for their teams, and would always prefer them giving the chance to an in-form player who's scoring regularly.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 14, 2015, 07:58:06 PM
pelle, schneiderlin and davis rested for tonight's replay

pelle and davis on bench

hope schneiderlin is just rested and he hasnt picked up a knock or even worse a bid been made on him


seems a reasonable line up lets hope the team and can produce enough quailty


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on January 14, 2015, 10:27:33 PM
Professional from saints but that was a waste of an evening.  Ipswich abysmal.  Awful match.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 24, 2015, 03:01:18 PM
Can't fault the line up today best available 11 named lets get this done


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on January 25, 2015, 12:12:36 PM
Gary Neville: The era of the gaffer is over

Southampton's incredible rise has destroyed the traditional model of a football club – we're now in the age of the technical director

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/11366206/Gary-Neville-The-era-of-the-gaffer-is-over.html


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Marky147 on January 25, 2015, 12:52:42 PM
Gary Neville: The era of the gaffer is over

Southampton's incredible rise has destroyed the traditional model of a football club – we're now in the age of the technical director

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/11366206/Gary-Neville-The-era-of-the-gaffer-is-over.html

Interesting stuff.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: arbboy on January 25, 2015, 01:00:59 PM
Can't imagine too much of that 21st century stuff going on at QPR which might explain why they are in such problems and its time for good old Harry to retire and let the young guns get on with it.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 30, 2015, 04:30:22 PM
Jack cork is moving to Swansea as he needs more playing time


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on February 01, 2015, 07:36:52 PM
could only muster 6 on bench today with the red card we could be in trouble next week unless we get someone in tomorrow

with long out till mid march and no date of return for JRod or gallagher might need a striker


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on February 02, 2015, 01:18:44 PM
Looks like we will be doing some business today -

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/11383757/Southampton-agree-loan-deal-for-midfielder-Filip-Djuricic-and-close-in-on-move-for-Feyenoords-Tonny-Vilhena.html



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on February 02, 2015, 08:16:36 PM
Quote
19:41

Portuguese giants Benfica have confirmed on their official website that Filip Djuricic has completed a loan move to Southampton until the end of the season, terminating his loan arrangement with German Bundesliga side Mainz.



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on February 02, 2015, 11:38:47 PM
Quote
DONE DEAL

Bertrand to Saints

Posted at 23:01

A bit of a surprise this one, as Southampton complete the permanent signing of left-back Ryan Bertrand from Chelsea after his successful loan spell.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on February 03, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
Excellent piece of news that. I thought he might have been poached in the Summer. If Clyne is being valued around £20 million then I see no reason why Bertrand is not far behind. A great deal for a top player.

Still look short of options up top.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on February 03, 2015, 02:19:44 PM
Excellent piece of news that. I thought he might have been poached in the Summer. If Clyne is being valued around £20 million then I see no reason why Bertrand is not far behind. A great deal for a top player.

Still look short of options up top.


yeah Jrod,long, gallagher all out untill goodness knows when and mayuka nursing a knock and injury to pelle and we are in trouble


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on February 03, 2015, 02:57:38 PM
edit to my post above looks like gallagher will be back sooner rather than later he played the first 45 minutes for the U21s last night


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on February 11, 2015, 07:11:10 PM
important game tonight if we can get a win we open up some between us and the 6 down
if we lose then 3-8 starts cramming together


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on February 19, 2015, 01:43:16 PM
Really excited for the Liverpool game this Sunday. Not been this excited for a game in a long time.

Good to see Lallana being gracious in the press this morning. I think he will get a decent reception.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31524487


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on February 23, 2015, 01:36:42 PM
Such a disappointing day.

Just not getting the rub of the green at the moment and missing that creative spark upfront to unlock teams. I thought that we played well in the most part although Pelle looks really short of confidence up top.

Fraser Forster has really not lived up to his billing this season either. I have lost count of the number of goals we have conceded where he has got two big hands to the ball and still managed to let it through. Must get better.

Enjoyed the Leicester game at the weekend as well - Mahrez looks a natural replacement for Clyne in the summer.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on February 23, 2015, 01:37:41 PM
lol

Mahrez is a wide attacking player with no defensive pretensions at all, Clyne is a full back?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on February 23, 2015, 01:45:20 PM
Haha, oops. I just assumed Mahrez was a full back, cannot have been paying attention very closely.

Not interested if he can't defend then, got enough of those already.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on February 23, 2015, 02:31:23 PM
Haha, oops. I just assumed Mahrez was a full back, cannot have been paying attention very closely.

Not interested if he can't defend then, got enough of those already.

He's an excellent player, one of 4 or 5 who will stay at a higher level in whichever top flight league next season (Schmeichel, Moore, Mahrez, Schlupp, Kramaric). the remainder haven't been good enough or are short term rentals


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on March 06, 2015, 04:03:12 PM
What you expecting for rest of season mark? I am thinking 7th spot with a mini of 60 points.

I really dont mind if we dont make a euro league spot this season will give koeman a chance to build on what we have going for us


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on March 06, 2015, 04:08:24 PM
I don't think he is there next season

done a fantastic job but he will up for whichever of arsenal/man city/atletico/dortmund etc is up next in the summer musical chairs

destined for bigger things, and quickly


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on March 06, 2015, 11:39:48 PM
7th would be a let down given where we have been though? I know that Europe can be seen as a pain but it is still a big draw in my eyes - even if it is the Europa League. I hope we can squeeze into 6th.

We were terrible against Palace though and in a bit of a slump at the moment. Underlying statistics still look OK but so low on confidence, was painful viewing earlier this week.

Agree that if the job is there for him, Koeman will not hang around (and who would blame him). A bit of stability would be nice though so fingers crossed we can keep hold of him and players over the Summer.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on March 07, 2015, 12:01:03 PM
7th would be step in right direction even though we looked like getting more
We havent gelled so well after the jan window hopefully we can get away without a major upheaval post season
If we get into europe we will need to increase squad which can lead to unrest and players are rotated


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on March 15, 2015, 07:44:25 PM
2 points from chelsea this season is better that expected
thought we were the better team in first half
second half we had our moments but chelsea showed why they will win the epl this season

gonna be comfy in atleast 7th now and with a record point score

if we can keep improving and keep hold of players and manager for a few seasons we could be knock on door of the ECL


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on March 25, 2015, 10:36:19 PM
Ffs j-rod is nearly ready to play but forester is out for 12 months


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on March 25, 2015, 10:47:47 PM


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: muckthenuts on March 25, 2015, 11:18:25 PM
But could anyone have predicted in the summer Southampton would be where they are now after 30 games? So much credit to them.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on March 26, 2015, 12:47:27 AM
question is does koeman try and keep boruc for next season
dont think we can get a stand in for 12 months of the quailty we need


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on April 18, 2015, 01:11:48 AM
just hope we dont get a summer like last season
so far this season we expect schneiderlin and clyne to be moving
and bids could be coming in for Jrod wanyama davis ward-prowse and fonte

we have an option to buy toby at 6.8 million but athletico can buy out of the deal for 1.5 minllion
and with intrest in the player from man city and spurs they could get more money that way

i honestly think koeman will stay atleast 1 more season and hopefully with him in charge we can stop a massive exodus this season
after all players will be looking at last seasons leavers and no one has really had a great season expect maybe chambers
who got a few more games than expected due to the injuries at arsenal


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on April 20, 2015, 10:09:37 PM
U21 cup winners well done boys, the conveyor belt of talent hasnt ended yet

what a great goal by Gallagher


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on April 20, 2015, 11:14:49 PM
An excellent group of players. Good game to watch and a good turnout.

Expect to see a fair few of these in the first team in the coming seasons. Jason McCarthy in particular looks like a future captain.

(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/mporter123/Saints%20U21119A_zps7rnya7yl.jpg) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/mporter123/media/Saints%20U21119A_zps7rnya7yl.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 14, 2015, 03:35:23 AM
great news on JRod and hopefull news with clyne

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqtOqQEsj1E


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: taximan007 on May 17, 2015, 09:01:46 AM
2 minutes 56 seconds 😄 (will that ever be bettered? )



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Marky147 on May 17, 2015, 07:12:32 PM
Le Tissier story on SS1 now.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 30, 2015, 01:29:24 AM
does anyone think of the 5 players that left last summer in big money deals shaw,lallana,lovern,chambers,lambert, that any have furthered there career. Lambert will likely move on during the summer but atleast he got a year at his boyhood club. shaw and chambers have gone backward IMHO they arent going to get the game time they would of at southampton and this will hamper there progression, it wouldnt surprise me to see either or both loaned out next season to get them game time
lambert got the chance to play for his boyhood team but likely going to find himself playing championship football for rest of career now.
lovern started off badly, seemingly finding it hard to settle but at the saints he settled straight away, lost his place in team and although he looked better at the tail end of season didnt look half the player he did at the saints
lallana injury started him off slowly started to look like he was going to come onto his game but just kept flattering to deceive, i think he has done his england chances alot of harm moving to liverpool and will need to improve alot to earn a place in the euro16 squad

this summer we look like we might lose 2 players in schnederlin and clyne. clyne has stated he would stay at saints if he can keep his place in england team, well a move away might harm his chances more than staying put if last seasonss movers are anything to go by. currently he is a mile ahead of any other player for the RB slot in the england team
morgan has come out with he is only going to move to a ECL team i can only see him going to arsenal in this country

will the fate of last seasons transfers out make it more likely we could keep our players this season?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on May 30, 2015, 09:47:18 PM
What a fantastic season. Excited to see some European football at St. Marys later this year.

(http://i873.photobucket.com/albums/ab297/mporter123/CGRgG2DXEAA5625_zpsv8yd9qdr.png) (http://s873.photobucket.com/user/mporter123/media/CGRgG2DXEAA5625_zpsv8yd9qdr.png.html)

Think your being a little harsh on last years transfers Iron. Lallana had some injuries and I thought looked good when fit. Lambert will retire at Liverpool when his contract expires at the end of next season. No idea why Lovren struggled and Chambers got usurped by the brilliant Bellerin. I think Clyne and Schneiderlin should be the only meaningful exits this Summer. Need 7 or 8 more for sure though so the 'black box' team will be busy.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 31, 2015, 12:44:27 AM
i am just hoping saints get caley thistle in the euro draw so i can get to see them, would hate them to draw aberdeen though


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 04, 2015, 12:34:13 AM
ffs silly season is started again

wanyama is latest player to be linked with a move away
seemingly arsenal want him as they cant afford morgan with man u  and PSG in the hunt for him

overs/unders on players going out at over 10 million in transfer fee i am hoping we can avoid it going over 2 this year but think it could be 4 or more


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 08, 2015, 07:06:08 PM
http://www.brandfinance.com/news/press_releases/footballs-first-billion-dollar-brand-not-barcelona-manchester-united

Quote
The Saints Go Marching On

Southampton is one of them and is this year’s fastest growing brand. The Saints’ brand value is up 89% to $183 million. However Southampton has been more than a passive beneficiary of booming broadcast revenues. Ronald Koeman has masterminded a 7th place finish that means a club facing administration in 2009 and playing in the third tier of English football in 2010 can look forward to European football next season and the chance to build its own brand on the international


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 15, 2015, 03:10:57 PM
Not seen anything announced yet but wiki has listed jaunami of Malaga present club as Southampton could be someone jumping the gun


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 16, 2015, 11:57:30 PM
Out 0 In 1

Please keep this up


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 18, 2015, 04:20:02 PM
portugues RB deal signed today could it be a sign clyne is off to liverpool?


Out 0 in 2


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 18, 2015, 08:47:15 PM
Nice to see us getting business done early. Too often in the past, we have come back from pre-season tours and then signed 3-4 first teamers a couple of weeks before the season starts.

Pelle, Long, J-Rod, Juanmi, Gallagher looks like plenty of options up front. Work to be done in all other areas.

Happy enough with £15 million for Clyne as that looks like ending up being the figure. Certainly on the low end of my valuation for an English right back but if he wants to go then so be it. Expect him to do very well at Liverpool and with England.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 22, 2015, 08:59:55 PM
Keeper in on loan cover for Ff ideal


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on June 25, 2015, 10:50:08 AM
Soon to be ex-Saints XI (4-1-3-2) -- Boruc; Clyne, Chambers, Lovren, Shaw; Schneiderlin; Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Bale; Lambert, Walcott

remarkable job done to keep the club moving forward with this lot gone


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 28, 2015, 10:43:01 PM
1 out 3 in


21:48

BREAKING NEWS

Nathaniel Clyne will complete his move from Southampton to Liverpool tomorrow for around £12.5m, according to Sky sources.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 28, 2015, 10:46:18 PM
Soon to be ex-Saints XI (4-1-3-2) -- Boruc; Clyne, Chambers, Lovren, Shaw; Schneiderlin; Oxlade-Chamberlain, Lallana, Bale; Lambert, Walcott

remarkable job done to keep the club moving forward with this lot gone

i think most teams in EPL would like a squad like that with 9 or 10 of them classed as HG aswell could let the rest of the squad be filled with top players from round the world for the foreseasble future

if only the saints could afford 100-300k a week players instead of 60k


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 30, 2015, 08:09:30 AM
Neither Utd or the gunners have tabled a bid for Morgan yet, he turned up for first day of preseason training with the u21s yesterday. Still has 2 years on his contract and he is happy to stay with saints this year unless a ecl team make an appropriate bid


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 01, 2015, 08:52:44 PM
saw this today


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on July 01, 2015, 08:59:01 PM
Second season syndrome? What price Southampton to go down?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: celtic on July 01, 2015, 09:10:48 PM
Extremely unlikely I would say.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 01, 2015, 09:12:10 PM
Second season syndrome? What price Southampton to go down?

3rd season now though


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on July 01, 2015, 09:13:04 PM
Second season syndrome? What price Southampton to go down?

3rd season now though

Meant under koeman


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 01, 2015, 09:15:55 PM
well he worked a miracle last season doing what he did

he will need to work another if we are to repeat it with europa league


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: celtic on July 01, 2015, 09:27:09 PM
Why a miracle? He spent a few quid, bought some decent players. Lost some players but they weren't exactly miles better than what he replaced them with.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on July 01, 2015, 09:34:49 PM
33/1 is a decent price. Might have a few quid on it


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 01, 2015, 09:38:38 PM
Why a miracle? He spent a few quid, bought some decent players. Lost some players but they weren't exactly miles better than what he replaced them with.

more games small squad just look at celtics results around the times they are in europe celtic bigger team in weaker league

33/1 is a decent price. Might have a few quid on it

wait untill the first 3-4 games of season it will be a bigger price i am 80% sure then get the money on


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: celtic on July 01, 2015, 09:53:25 PM
33/1 is a decent price. Might have a few quid on it

You can get 50-1 according to oddschecker.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Doobs on July 01, 2015, 10:56:35 PM
Why a miracle? He spent a few quid, bought some decent players. Lost some players but they weren't exactly miles better than what he replaced them with.

more games small squad just look at celtics results around the times they are in europe celtic bigger team in weaker league

33/1 is a decent price. Might have a few quid on it

wait untill the first 3-4 games of season it will be a bigger price i am 80% sure then get the money on

Hello Ironside

Are you really 80% sure the price will be bigger?  Bookies are very good at shortening prices and not so good at pushing them out.  I have no memory of what has happened  at the start of a football season though and guess somebody may be more wlling on betfair.

Have you any better idea than me on what happened in the past.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on July 01, 2015, 10:59:59 PM
86% of stats are made up on the spot


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: celtic on July 01, 2015, 11:05:39 PM
83% of stats are made up on the spot

FYP


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 01, 2015, 11:14:45 PM
IMHO saints are going to have an advantage of being slightly more advanced in there prep for the season due to europa qualifying
along with that there first 3-4 games are games that saints should be targeting to win
i feel we can get off to a good start and then as the games mount up the squad depth will kick in and we
will head south in the league

all dependant on saints getting into league stage that is


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Doobs on July 01, 2015, 11:52:15 PM
IMHO saints are going to have an advantage of being slightly more advanced in there prep for the season due to europa qualifying
along with that there first 3-4 games are games that saints should be targeting to win
i feel we can get off to a good start and then as the games mount up the squad depth will kick in and we
will head south in the league

all dependant on saints getting into league stage that is


I get all this, but there are some bits you are missing:

I think your thinking relies on them starting to push out prices after only 3 or 4 matches, and also that the bookies are not aware of your easy start or your early start for the Europa league and that the Europa league will take a toll later in the season.

It is only better to bet later if the price is better value than now.

If say you get 8 points from the first 4 games and assuming somebody pushes you out to 66/1, is that better or worse than 50/1 now?

Say you have a bad start and only get 4 from 4, is 33/1 after 4 games better than 50/1 now?

I like the thinking by the way, and it feels right in theory, just not sure it works in practice.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 02, 2015, 01:36:40 AM
no worries i am not and never claimed to be an expert at gambling just feel the price is going to be bigger later so i would wait till then

just like last year i thought the price for them going down was too high then after the first game i recommended we green out when the price went too low

to me thats how we are supposed to bet get on at highest price and off at lowest

but i do understand value the way its really is in that saints coould be value at 33-1 and 0 points and then no longer value with 10 points at 100-1
i would just rather be on with the 100-1 but i am greedy


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 06, 2015, 08:22:38 AM
http://talksport.com/football/southampton-expect-pip-tottenham-signing-atletico-madrid-defender-toby-alderweireld

Madrid forgot to cancel the buy out in time


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 06, 2015, 11:44:02 AM
http://talksport.com/football/southampton-expect-pip-tottenham-signing-atletico-madrid-defender-toby-alderweireld

Madrid forgot to cancel the buy out in time

Saw the echo were reporting this last night as well. This cannot be true, absolutely must be rubbish.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 06, 2015, 01:36:27 PM
Everyone is running the story


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 07, 2015, 01:50:54 PM
Can’t say that this was unexpected but a real kick in the teeth.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham-set-to-wrap-up-115m-toby-alderweireld-deal-imminently-with-southampton-likely-to-get-share-of-the-fee-10370980.html


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 08, 2015, 01:41:52 PM
Gone bugger

New player in though looks like a bit of coverage

1out 4 in but still need to cover the loan signings from last season


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 08, 2015, 02:12:43 PM
Gone bugger

New player in though looks like a bit of coverage

1out 4 in but still need to cover the loan signings from last season

I expect Koeman will be distinctly unimpressed with the way this transfer has gone through. He said in his press conference 48 hours ago that he was confident and Alderweireld wanted to come and had been in contact with him personally.

Somewhere along the way, things have become confused and we seemed slow off the mark. We were happy to match Spurs wages (£50K a week) and fee no issue.

Need to replace him now as Martina was never intended as a replacement.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 08, 2015, 02:14:47 PM
Think vvd from Celtic might be back on the cards


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: 77dave on July 08, 2015, 05:14:59 PM
Think vvd from Celtic might be back on the cards

How about Lovern?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 08, 2015, 05:56:48 PM
Think vvd from Celtic might be back on the cards

How about Lovern?

£2.2million?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 08, 2015, 08:56:01 PM
great news of Jrod scoring 2 goals after coming on as a 2nd half sub


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 15, 2015, 11:37:39 PM
schneiderlin out clasie in perfect for me

we get loads of money spent half of it and get a player whose name i can spell instead of a nightmare i am happy

i just hope he is as good


now we need a CB and possibly 1 more player for defensive cover


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 28, 2015, 06:20:39 PM
wow a football song to rival the dons European song as a football song that doesnt totally stink

i would say this is quite passable

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQR07pT0azQ


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 30, 2015, 09:42:55 PM
pelle starting playing ATM how he did at the start of last season i hope he can maintain it for the full season


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: horseplayer on July 30, 2015, 10:11:45 PM
Mane is a beautiful player to watch


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 02, 2015, 06:01:45 PM
Jrod scored a cracker today, going to be some decent competitions  for places in the attacking roles this season

Mane Tadic Long Jrod Pelle JWP, juanmi, davis all looking for starting role in the front 4


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on August 02, 2015, 06:13:55 PM
give me your starting line up for southampton for the first league game please.....


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TheDazzler on August 02, 2015, 06:22:28 PM
give me your starting line up for southampton for the first league game please.....

Shouldn't you be posting these in the Fantasy Premier League thread Tighty? :)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 02, 2015, 06:48:53 PM
give me your starting line up for southampton for the first league game please.....

                    Stekelenburg

Cédric      Fonte     Yoshida    Targett


         Wanayama            Davies

        Tadic       Mane        Rodriguez

                       
                         Pelle


Classie is injured and will miss the first game at least. Question is do you drop Davies back from the front 3 or trust one of James Ward Prowse or Harrison Reed to fill that role. I suspect they will drop Davies back deeper.

That leaves a few competing for that left wing spot. Realistically, for me, it is J-Rod v Long. Will likely depend on European minutes the Thursday before.

Longer term - Bertrand replaces Targett. Another CB replaces Yoshida - maybe Caulker or another signing. Classie returns and Davies plays left wing.

Very excited by Tadic, Mane, Pelle this season. Think that first team is a very strong one.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 02, 2015, 06:57:10 PM
give me your starting line up for southampton for the first league game please.....

                    Stekelenburg

Cédric      Fonte     Yoshida    Targett


         Wanayama            Davies

        Tadic       Mane        Rodriguez

                       
                         Pelle


Classie is injured and will miss the first game at least. Question is do you drop Davies back from the front 3 or trust one of James Ward Prowse or Harrison Reed to fill that role. I suspect they will drop Davies back deeper.

That leaves a few competing for that left wing spot. Realistically, for me, it is J-Rod v Long. Will likely depend on European minutes the Thursday before.

Longer term - Bertrand replaces Targett. Another CB replaces Yoshida - maybe Caulker or another signing. Classie returns and Davies plays left wing.

Very excited by Tadic, Mane, Pelle this season. Think that first team is a very strong one.

I am thinking caulker ahead of yoshida, we need a CB and likely another DCM apart from that I am really happy with the squad


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 02, 2015, 07:00:06 PM
oh I read something in past 24 hours than classie could be back for Thursdays game which would mean classie playing alongside wanayama and davis on the left wing


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 02, 2015, 10:50:58 PM
http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/13525044.Clasie_could_be_fit_for_Premier_League_opener/


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 07, 2015, 06:12:00 PM
not a bad draw for us in europa  would like to think we are now primed for a deep run

glad to see koeman taking it serious too

and loving the form of pelle and mane could be a good start to season if those 2 can keep performing

mane could be a target for the big boys next summer


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: pleno1 on August 10, 2015, 03:19:36 AM
gg


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 10, 2015, 07:15:04 AM
It was a good one to watch
Think both defences need work though


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 12, 2015, 03:19:01 PM
Saints giving a Chelsea 23 year old defensive mid a medical today

I ain't even gonna attempt to spell his name till I have read it on a screen bigger than my phone


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 12, 2015, 03:32:57 PM
ok even i wont mess this one up

Oriol Romeu


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on August 12, 2015, 04:25:42 PM
Very tidy midfielder.  Think Chelsea are suprised he didn't come on more after they signed him from Barca.  Watford were rumoured to be after him a month back, but assume we couldn't agree wages or he turned us down.

Think he'll fit in really well at Saints.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 12, 2015, 04:27:00 PM
should give us cover and roataion with classie and wanyama


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 15, 2015, 12:22:21 PM
First home game of the season, lets go.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_cXE8T9ldM


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: MattyHollis on August 15, 2015, 12:41:05 PM
Very tidy midfielder.  Think Chelsea are suprised he didn't come on more after they signed him from Barca.  Watford were rumoured to be after him a month back, but assume we couldn't agree wages or he turned us down.

Think he'll fit in really well at Saints.


You got the better deal with Nathan Ake.

Romeu is a tidy player but Ake has a little bit of class about him.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on August 15, 2015, 02:14:18 PM
what's the plan to replace schneiderlin?

missing him terribly.

being torn apart through the middle and in the targett channel


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 15, 2015, 02:18:33 PM
We need a new cb desperately, we have spiders replacements but classie is injuried and Romeu is on bench, Ryan will be back soon to replace targett

Defence is a mess right now


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 19, 2015, 05:11:34 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/9956811/manchester-united-considering-southamptons-sadio-mane

really?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 22, 2015, 09:43:40 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/9961943/victor-wanyama-asks-to-leave-southampton-say-sky-sources


ffs cant see spurs being able to afford him as they have already said they need to sell to buy to keep in the FFP rules


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on August 28, 2015, 11:06:51 AM
every premier league club except southampton are net spenders this summer

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNfDoeLUEAAVLGJ.jpg)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 28, 2015, 02:01:42 PM
Problem is the wage bill, teams with a wage bill over £52 million can only increase it by £4 million per season or get epl sanctioned. So  we have to buy better than we have but quailty players want bigger wages and we are not allowed to spend the TV money on increasing the wages

By the time we get a new cb we will be net spenders


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 28, 2015, 05:41:23 PM
http://www.financialfairplay.co.uk/financial-fair-play-explained.php


i cant find a link to last seasons wages but saints had the 15th biggest wage bill
pretty hard for us to compete consistently in top 10 when we are 50 million behind
in wages than spurs and 80 million behind liverpool and dispite making record profits
we cant invest in wages

we could invest some of the money in transfer fees but are not allowed to increase the wage budget to match


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on August 30, 2015, 04:10:29 PM
i like watching rodriguez

good player, good to see him back


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 30, 2015, 04:36:43 PM
i like watching rodriguez

good player, good to see him back

great to see him on the pitch but not really back yet but not far away


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 23, 2015, 08:05:48 PM
very strong line up for todays game bartrand on bench and could be starting at the weekend

the line up could be an indication that saints are going to take the cups seriously this season


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 26, 2015, 06:06:40 PM
i have to say i wasnt that keen on VVD before we signed him but thought we looked very solid today and he was the key to that
along with bertrand coming back on the left we looked defensively as good if not better than last season


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 03, 2015, 08:19:10 PM
such a pity forester is out for most of season
i thought we looked great after the first 30 minutes today
even before that we didnt look too bad


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on October 25, 2015, 02:47:55 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/southampton/11953368/Why-the-rest-of-the-Premier-League-have-a-lot-to-learn-from-Southampton.html

Should be a good game today.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 18, 2015, 08:23:49 PM
interesting article about how the saints are doing compared to last season

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20151118-season-start-adam-leitch-southern-daily-echo-2807095.aspx


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 22, 2015, 10:33:36 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amLKCm13R_w

wont be long now till we get our goalie back


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on December 22, 2015, 10:48:44 PM
Hope he gets some game time between now and the end of the season and is on the plane (train) to France. We've got 3 really good keepers, hard to choose between them.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 27, 2015, 12:43:33 PM
In grand scheme of things 3 points were won yesterday, but imho they were huge points in our season, a loss and we were 4 points from relegation, and 5 points behind team ahead of us the win keeps us within 1 win of a few teams above and some wiggle room behind.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 02, 2016, 05:29:52 PM
Second time in the last 12 months that Mane has been dropped for turning up late to a team meeting.

I think it is correct to make an example of him but for goodness sake. Buy the lad an alarm clock. If somebody comes in with 25 million then would think it would be sensible to cash in now.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Karabiner on January 02, 2016, 06:20:33 PM
Your last nine games: LLLDLLW(beat Arsenal 4-0)LL.

WTFGO?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 02, 2016, 06:24:30 PM
Second time in the last 12 months that Mane has been dropped for turning up late to a team meeting.

I think it is correct to make an example of him but for goodness sake. Buy the lad an alarm clock. If somebody comes in with 25 million then would think it would be sensible to cash in now.

would you let wanayma go?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 02, 2016, 07:55:01 PM
Second time in the last 12 months that Mane has been dropped for turning up late to a team meeting.

I think it is correct to make an example of him but for goodness sake. Buy the lad an alarm clock. If somebody comes in with 25 million then would think it would be sensible to cash in now.

would you let wanayma go?

Not in January. It is too much of a pain to find a replacement, if the right money comes then the Summer will be fine. He was exceptional against Arsenal but has underwhelmed in a number of other games. He is always going to get a red card or two every season as well but you need that sort of player.

Feels like some of the players are just struggling to get up for these games at the moment. We are not playing as badly as results suggest mind you. Certainly no need for a panic but this is where Koeman needs to prove himself. His contract is up the Summer after next and he has always seemed to indicate he won't sign another one in the expectation of a bigger job. Needs to show he is capable of one now.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: tikay on January 03, 2016, 09:29:00 AM
Second time in the last 12 months that Mane has been dropped for turning up late to a team meeting.

I think it is correct to make an example of him but for goodness sake. Buy the lad an alarm clock. If somebody comes in with 25 million then would think it would be sensible to cash in now.

The chatter seems to suggest it is his way of agitating for a move in the transfer window.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 03, 2016, 12:16:40 PM
Second time in the last 12 months that Mane has been dropped for turning up late to a team meeting.

I think it is correct to make an example of him but for goodness sake. Buy the lad an alarm clock. If somebody comes in with 25 million then would think it would be sensible to cash in now.

The chatter seems to suggest it is his way of agitating for a move in the transfer window.

It does seem that way after listening to Koeman. Would be really nice as a Saints fan to just have a period of 12-18 months where players actually want to stay at the club.

"I feel let down by some players, yes of course - because we had a different line-up for the game," said Koeman.

"I don't understand it. I don't understand a player that comes in late to the last meeting. You will have to ask him why. I don't know. I didn't ask - otherwise then you get into details and it is already too late."

"My message to Sadio two days ago in training was that I didn't think he was really focused and concentrated," Koeman added.

"Yes I feel let down by him, but it's felt much more by his team-mates because we are a club where we like to treat everybody very respectfully and you have responsibilities as a player, to the fans, to your team-mates, to your board, to the technical staff.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on January 05, 2016, 11:22:45 AM
Mane forces the issue as Chelsea and Bayern Munich join Manchester United in chase for Saints star ht

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/chelsea-bayern-munich-join-manchester-7116775


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on January 09, 2016, 10:32:34 AM
Ronald Koeman puts his Southampton future in further doubt as he slams their Academy's work

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/ronald-koeman-puts-southampton-future-7142521


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 13, 2016, 08:27:26 PM
fraser is back

positive news from st marys for once


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on January 14, 2016, 10:15:34 AM
I heard Watford were dreadful last night and outclassed!  Think we might have hit the wall due to lack of squad rotation.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 14, 2016, 10:26:19 AM
Couldn’t get to the game last night but had a chat to my Dad who did go.

Watford were completely out of sorts. Essentially created absolutely nothing and, on another day, could have been on the end of a hiding.

Koeman has said we are looking to bring in one player in the window. Potentially Stefano Sturaro from Juventus.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-set-improve-transfer-bid-7160179


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 23, 2016, 12:46:13 PM
How long will Koeman be a Saint?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southamptons-ronald-koeman-wants-chelsea-7228741

He gave an interview to one of the largest radio stations in Holland yesterday morning.

Presenter - "What about the Chelsea interest? There are rumours that you might go there at the end of the season."
Koeman - "That's something we have to wait on".
Presenter - "Did Chelsea call you?"
Koeman - "No - there has been no call. Guus didn't call."
Presenter - "Does Guus make that decision?"
Koeman - "I don't know, don't think so. Ultimately the people who have the jobs who decide that, make that decision. But if Guus puts in a good word for me, it could have an influence.

In fairness to Koeman, he has never made a secret of his ambition. Expect the wheels have been in motion in the Black Box room for a while working on a shortlist of suitable replacements.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: fatcatstu on January 23, 2016, 02:12:26 PM
Any news on Gaston Ramirez down there mate? News up here (Boro) ranges from he is having a medical to we arent interested!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 23, 2016, 03:13:35 PM
Any news on Gaston Ramirez down there mate? News up here (Boro) ranges from he is having a medical to we arent interested!

He has been told he has no future at Southampton. Was told this last Summer.

Has shown little real interest to try and break into the side for a long time now. Was poor when we went on loan to Hull a while back. We have wanted him off the books for ages as he is on a lot of money. Would rate him as no better than a decent championship player. I used to have some fondness for him back in the Championship days but just not technically or physically good enough at the top level.

I suspect whether he will leave or not is completely money related. Is on a cushy number at Southampton with contact up in the Summer. Expect a move to Boro will mean a pay drop so may just sit it out.



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 23, 2016, 08:59:15 PM
forester comes back and we keep 3 clean sheets and 9 points
big game coming up against arsenal next but after that its not a bad run in
could we make a late charge for europa league?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 23, 2016, 08:59:59 PM
oh yeah how do we fit pelle long and austin into the team?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on February 02, 2016, 11:01:18 PM
4 clean sheets for forster since coming back from 10 months out injured including 10 saves (according the EPL fantasy site i counted more) tonight
has to be on the plane to the euros and challenging for the number 1 spot surely

without him coming back saints could be on the fringes of a relegation dogfight


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: nirvana on February 02, 2016, 11:08:55 PM
4 clean sheets for forster since coming back from 10 months out injured including 10 saves (according the EPL fantasy site i counted more) tonight
has to be on the plane to the euros and challenging for the number 1 spot surely

without him coming back saints could be on the fringes of a relegation dogfight

Quite an amazing performance tonight.. hardly moved but made 3 or 4 really good saves


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: mondatoo on March 01, 2016, 01:18:17 AM
Matt Targett expected to start again tmoro ?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on March 01, 2016, 01:28:47 AM
Matt Targett expected to start again tmoro ?

if we play 3 at back yes

i think he will stick with 3 at back if it aint broke dont change it


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: mondatoo on March 01, 2016, 01:35:05 AM
Matt Targett expected to start again tmoro ?

if we play 3 at back yes

i think he will stick with 3 at back if it aint broke dont change it

Tyty, and gl :P


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on March 01, 2016, 08:30:01 PM
Matt Targett expected to start again tmoro ?

if we play 3 at back yes

i think he will stick with 3 at back if it aint broke dont change it

Tyty, and gl :P

ok i was wrong looks like yoshida is the 3rd man at back moving bertrand to the WB i aint a fan of this but hope to be proved wrong
i am assuming its because targett is so young and the need to keep the likes of yoshida happy


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on March 01, 2016, 11:20:47 PM
Chucked in an absolute shocker of a performance tonight. The worst of the season.

Odd state of affairs when Pelle, Tadic and Mane just look completely gone. Rank out of form.

Austin has been very ineffective so far although early days for judgement. Also, Koeman absolutely loves a tinker. Looks a lot to me like some are just not understanding the system and I don't blame them as it seems to change at least 3 times a game.

Need to find some motivation from somewhere. A fair few midlands away games coming up that I was planning on attending but may just not bother given we have very little to play for and look disinterested.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on March 15, 2016, 06:33:40 PM
ref had a nightmare on saturday, atleast mane's red card has been overturned

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35803664


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 11, 2016, 04:03:22 PM
terrible result for the saints last night west ham beating Man U has made qualifying for Europe very hard relying on other teams losing or dropping points and or Man U winning the FA cup

but with a game to go we have equaled our record points haul of last season so even if we fail to make Europe this season its still a good season after the turmoil of the last 2 summers a quiet one should allow us to move forward


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 13, 2016, 01:17:19 PM
Saints have been busy after long term deal for VVD we have now secured Forster till 2021 and JWP till 2022

now can we get the most important signature in Koeman himself


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on May 13, 2016, 02:32:26 PM
I don't see Koeman signing, he is ambitious and with a year left on his contract, can wait for the right job to come along - Arsenal?

What a brilliant second half of the season we have had. Hats off to Koeman, I have doubted him at time but there is no denying that he is a good tactician and man motivator. First time ever that we have 3 top ten finishes in a row. Good times.

Expect movement in the summer - don't expect Wanyama or Mane to be here.

Thankfully, the rest of the squad is very settled and a couple of fresh faces is all that's needed really. Would be looking for a right back and a creative midfielder in the Lallana mould as priorities. Rest of the team looks good and good coverage.

Hopefully we can sneak into Europe on Saturday and have a proper go this time.



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 14, 2016, 12:18:40 AM
you think pelle will stay? i think we have had the best out of him and might be time to let him move to italy
with austin long and Jrod all vying for the striker its not as if we lack cover


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 15, 2016, 10:53:30 PM
what a fantastic end to the season, 5/6th and record points haul

will be supporting Bournemouth Tuesday in the hope of getting 5th and the auto group stage of Europa league
i can imagine that man u will have a young fresh eager team out on Tuesday as they rest the main players for cup final


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on May 15, 2016, 11:22:55 PM
what a fantastic end to the season, 5/6th and record points haul

will be supporting Bournemouth Tuesday in the hope of getting 5th and the auto group stage of Europa league
i can imagine that man u will have a young fresh eager team out on Tuesday as they rest the main players for cup final

Failing that happening, back to routing for Man U, if they win the FA cup then it is automatic group stage anyway.

Interesting Koeman interview post game. He is meeting with the board this week to discuss 'ambition' and 'next steps'. He said 'actions speaks louder than words'. He is going to be looking for some assurances on keeping players and spending money I expect. Everton can jog on.

Pelle waved his goodbyes today. Likely going back to Italy for one last contract. Will need replacing. Best hair cut in the team too.

Looking forward to the Kelvin Davis testimonial this week. First 11 v Promotions 11. Adkins as manager of the promotions 11, all the old boys back.



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Rod Paradise on May 16, 2016, 11:21:13 AM
At least you won't be coming up to Celtic and nicking our best players this summer.

Sadly that's because the players who looked like doing a Wanyama/Van Djik (Bitton, Johnannson) have gone backwards in the last season.

Only Celtic stick out now is Kieran Tierney, but he's only 18, still lives at home and goes to support his local pub team etc. An absolute Celtic fanatic he's got another year or 2 before the board force a move to cash in.

Paddy Roberts is the other one who looks a lot better than those round him, but he's Man City's.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 17, 2016, 08:30:15 PM
bugger Man U have put out there first 11

come on Bournemouth


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TheDazzler on June 03, 2016, 12:54:09 AM
I think you might want to change the name of this thread tomorrow.
I heard that Koeman has signed for Everton tonight.
It's from an Everton fan on a Fantasy football site (which I appreciate is lol) but he does seem very much ITK to me.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 03, 2016, 01:38:16 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/10302814/everton-in-talks-with-ronald-koeman-to-become-new-manager-say-sky-sources

:-(

Money talks I suppose.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: david3103 on June 05, 2016, 08:50:41 AM
Heard Giggs suggested as a replacement. Would obviously be a gamble, but there is a certain synergy in having someone who appreciates the importance of the young developing players at a club with a fantastic record for producing them.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: rinswun on June 05, 2016, 10:25:46 AM
Rumour has it Giggs is going to Bolton.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 05, 2016, 10:51:31 AM
Unai Emery please. A perfect fit.

Absolutely must be a European pedigree manager. No interest in Giggs/Howe etc.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: George2Loose on June 05, 2016, 12:11:36 PM
Million u get Emery.

FDB maybe?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 05, 2016, 12:49:55 PM
Million u get Emery.

FDB maybe?

Emery reportedly very keen for a Premier League job and who would blame him. A consistent top 10 squad, European Football, an excellent youth system, top class facilities. Don't think it would be a particularly hard sell. Depends on interest from elsewhere (PSG).

Would have FDB, Pellegrini and Villas Boas on the shortlist too. Some good options out there.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 07, 2016, 02:11:53 PM
Had a really vivid dream that me and Koeman were in a room together and he was crying because he didn't want to leave but he had to to further his career.

Woke up and felt like crap. Been miserable this week, it's an absolutely gut punch that he is leaving. Just wish they would announce it already so it can be done. I want to see his face when he gives his first press conference. He categorically said that he would always see out his contract - no matter what. Always had Koeman as a man of his word - one of the old school but, of course, there is no loyalty in football any more.

I can take players going but the manager is the focal point of the club.

Chirpy Everton fan at work is going out the window soon. Hope the owners pull out next year and they go bankrupt.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 07, 2016, 05:24:33 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36455355

confirmed gutted more that i lost a tenner laying koeman as next everton boss at 1.02 than i am he has gone
we are in a much better postilion now than we were when adkins left having had 3 really good managers on the trott
and in europa league for 2nd season sammy lee and dave watson are staying which will help new guy along

i think we can get a really big name even bigger than koeman this time round


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 07, 2016, 06:50:26 PM
lol@tighty

i was just coming along to do the same although its still not official  due to his holiday need a new long term topic name though


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Rod Paradise on June 07, 2016, 08:04:23 PM
lol@tighty

i was just coming along to do the same although its still not official  due to his holiday need a new long term topic name though

"Saints & Sinners"?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 07, 2016, 08:46:00 PM
lol@tighty

i was just coming along to do the same although its still not official  due to his holiday need a new long term topic name though

"Saints & Sinners"?
apart from wanyama we dont sin much


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: david3103 on June 07, 2016, 08:50:28 PM
'God' was a Saint

ldo

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb6rt1QY-9Q


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 07, 2016, 11:08:48 PM
Le God is and will always be a saint


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Rod Paradise on June 07, 2016, 11:51:27 PM
lol@tighty

i was just coming along to do the same although its still not official  due to his holiday need a new long term topic name though

"Saints & Sinners"?
apart from wanyama we dont sin much

What's Wanyama done? Lovely lad, great supporter of charities etc.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Rod Paradise on June 07, 2016, 11:55:59 PM
'God' was a Saint

ldo

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb6rt1QY-9Q

A Genius - Loved watching him play, but Ghod was a Celt ;)

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2E8hQ1cHtU


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 08, 2016, 12:26:11 AM
great player, but hard as nails and very rare he gets through a game without sinning and getting a card or 2


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Rod Paradise on June 08, 2016, 10:33:33 AM
great player, but hard as nails and very rare he gets through a game without sinning and getting a card or 2

Aye he's a tough customer - seems to have reigned back on his more reckless hits though.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on June 08, 2016, 11:13:04 AM
so, realistically, who do you want for next manager?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 08, 2016, 12:39:28 PM
so, realistically, who do you want for next manager?

My priorities would be:-

European Pedigree – This would be number one priority for me – we need a manager that has a good network. Koeman excelled at helping bring players to the club – he was a huge influence behind Pelle, Tadic and Mane. We need a manager that can sell that dream and pull on some previous contacts. Europa League experience would be good – there is no reason why we shouldn’t be looking to compete well in that competition.

History of bringing through young players – The one criticism of Koeman is that he didn’t give our younger players enough of a chance. Players like Harrison Reed were good enough to get first team starts last season and were side-lined. Need someone who knows how to develop our young talent – James Ward Prowse, Jason McCarthy, Matt Targett should all be future first team players but need guidance.

Tactically – we have played a reasonably similar style for the last 6-7 years. We are not quite as intense as Poch had us but a classic 4-3-3 that transitions into a 4-5-1. There is no point bringing in someone who wants to play in a completely different way. Our squad is strong and established – we are in a very different situation compared to when Koeman joined and had to re-build. If nobody leaves this summer then we need perhaps 2-3 players to enhance the squad.

Les Reed has a good track record for recruitment so have faith he will get a good one in. Emerey looks out of reach as he looks to be going to PSG and reportedly turned down Everton so my shortlist would be:-

Frank De Boer
Andres Villas-Boas
Pellegrini
Moyes

Would be happy with any of the top 3. Would need some convincing over Moyes. Really hope we don’t go for Eddie Howe but not surprised to see him in the picture.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Rod Paradise on June 08, 2016, 01:12:41 PM
Do you think Koeman will come hunting some of his players? I'd think he'd be tempted to try and take the spine - Forster, VVD, Wanyama & Long giving him a known toughening up of Everton. Would need serious money to do so obv.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 08, 2016, 01:38:52 PM
Do you think Koeman will come hunting some of his players? I'd think he'd be tempted to try and take the spine - Forster, VVD, Wanyama & Long giving him a known toughening up of Everton. Would need serious money to do so obv.

I don't think the club would allow it. I think he will try and everyone has a price. We have dug our feet in the sand in the past and expect us to do so again.

We did the same when Poch came calling and blocked Wanyama / J-Rod going to Spurs at the time. Expect the hierarchy to get stubborn again - also helps that Forster and VVD only just signed new 5 year contracts so will take a huge bid to even get to the table. Wanyama will almost certainly go as only has a year left on his contract and no desire to sign a new one. Hopefully not to Everton though.

If it was me then I would point blankly refuse to even have a conversation over any potential transfers with Everton now. Would be the ultimate kick in the teeth to the fans and the board recognise that.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 08, 2016, 02:01:55 PM
i like the same guys mark has posted one person i was surpirised to see in the odds as low as 16-1 was simone with pie in the .... we aint going to get him but obviously would be great

the good thing about Forster,VVD and JWP the 3 big players that Koeman would be intrested in is they have recently signed long term contracts even if they have release clauses in them  it was too soon
for them to be valid.



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Rod Paradise on June 08, 2016, 02:42:52 PM
It would be really harsh to lose them, but I've an ulterior motive as I'm sure Celtic will have sell on clauses in with Forster VVD & Wanyama.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 08, 2016, 07:18:50 PM
FDB has seemingly rejected lazio as he wants the saints job


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 08, 2016, 07:22:14 PM
It would be really harsh to lose them, but I've an ulterior motive as I'm sure Celtic will have sell on clauses in with Forster VVD & Wanyama.

yeah they have and if they do move on it will be for silly money, or why else would you sell a forster or VVD,who are both under 5/6 year deals and are both approaching there prime.
when there is very little if any players better that would be interested in playing for a team outside the big 3 or 4 side in england


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 09, 2016, 06:40:04 PM
Juanmi has move on to sociedad for an undisclosed fee wasn't much of a shock


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 11, 2016, 02:05:05 AM
lmao


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 12, 2016, 04:51:33 PM
I came across a very interesting post about the Koeman situation this morning on the Sotonian website. It's long and I'm not sure how credible it is but an interesting read.
Quote
At the end of the season, Koeman verbally agreed to a new contract with Saints, even down to such details as what players would be leaving [Wanyama (most likely to Spurs), Pelle (most likely to Lazio), Juanmi (to Sociadad, already done) lol, I didn't even know he had gone! and Mane (most likely to Man. Utd)] -- as well as discussing our transfer targets into the Club. This was all verbally agreed upon, leaving the finer details of Ron's actual contract itself to be sorted by his agent and settled when he returned from [his first] holiday.Whilst he was away however, Everton approached Ronald's [now former] Agent, Guido Albers, to sound him out on Ronald's interest in taking up the Everton Job. His agent, taking Ronald at his word - "I like to honour my contract, I like to stay at Saints" - [bear in mind that the agent had been involved in negotiating Ronald's new Saints contract, and therefore believed that he wished to stay] flatly turned down the Everton approach on behalf of Ronald, and instead put forward the name of another of his clients, Frank De Boer, who was indeed interested in the Everton job. [Two agent pay-days for the price of one!] Everton, having already been turned down by their first choice, Unai Emery from Sevilla [who is off to PSG] were determined to get their second choice [Ronald Koeman] -- and so used Dutch agent Rob Jansen to approach Ronald with an "offer he could not refuse" -- i.e. £6-7 mill a year, and £100m transfer kitty to splash. Ronald was furious that his own agent [Albers] had refused the offer without even speaking to him first, and sacked him, taking on Rob Jansen in his place. And here is where things get interesting.Koeman was not entirely dishonest -- as he wasn't really that interested in the Everton job. Who wouldbe, when you've just got your team into European football for the second year running, already enjoy substantial backing from your board, the adoration of your loyal fan-base -- and Everton are nowhere? But what Koeman wanted to do, was to use this interest and concrete offer as a bargaining tool when he returned from his holiday, to say to the Saints Board "this is the kind of 'ambition' I am talking about". He wanted to "use" the Everton interest to get himself more spending money with Saints -- but he grossly overestimated his own "value" to the Saints Board.
For quite a while now -- Saints have not been entirely happy with Koeman. Many of the agreements he had previously made when he first signed, he had not been honouring. The style of football, formation, and most importantly -- the much vaunted "pathway" to the First Team from our famed Academy -- which under Ronald has been said inside the Club to have become "blocked". His attitude toward our young players, never bothering to involve himself with the Academy or even watch their games [he sees himself very much as a "First Team Manager only" whereas we want our manager to take a keen interest in helping develop our burgeoning talent], often discouraging them, blankly stating that most of them are simply not good enough, and at one point launching into a very nasty tirade of abuse to young Matty Targett, that is said to have stunned those who were there in its cutting spitefulness and completely unnecessary severity. The "esteemed" Ronald Koeman callously tore a sensitive young lad to shreds in front of all his mates, and has since been widely regarded as a complete *****.Ronald Koeman, despite his very well presented and controlled public image in the media, is not particularly well liked by many at the Club, to make a sweeping understatement. His aloofness and arrogance on the training ground, his unapproachability, and tendency to snap at players and speak to them in a disrespectful tone has not gone down well. Mane, JWP, Harry Reed, and Tadic in particular have an immense dislike of Ronald Koeman, and others only tolerate his tactless approach as they're regularly in the Team, were enjoying an element of success under him, and don't want to rock the boat. But you get the general idea.
We are also greatly peturbed at some of Ronald's training methods, i.e the lack and short duration of them, the low intensity, and lack of commitment to training in general. He gives the players a lot of time off, and is prone to "disappearing on golfing breaks"
when we feel that he should be spending his time coaching our players!
The Board have been questioning a lot about his management style and not honouring his commitments to playing "The Southampton Way" and his stifling of the pathway for our young players for a while now -- but whilst he has been enjoying success and has the firm backing of the fans, they have been loathe to take any firm course of action. Ronald got very lucky during our disasterous run of form over the Christmas period, where we lost seven out of nine games, and we were persisting in that horrendous hoofball style of football, lumping long balls up to a woefully out of form [yet constantly picked anyway] Pelle, and privately among the Board, questions were being asked by some, of whether to get rid of Koeman then. But as I say, he got lucky: Pelle got injured, and Ronald was forced to play the excellent Shane Long [who he previously never game a proper chance to show his qualities], and change back to a style of play more suited to our philosophy. Shlong pretty much saved Koeman's job at that time.So that's the background. Ron thought his "gravitas" in the game deserved a certain respect, and coupled with the success he has brought us -- he badly misjudged his importance to our Board. He thought he could use the Everton interest, believing his value and position at the Club to be unassailable -- to effectively blackmail the Board into agreeing completely to his own terms to sign a new deal. It wasn't so much about the personal money on offer, but more with getting more to spend on new players than was on offer -- and forcing Sadio Mane to stay again against his will. Sadio hates Koeman [the phrase used (by Sadio) was "fucking arrogant asshat"], and the irony is, we now have a higher likelihood of keeping him [Mane], without Koeman around. Not to say that will definitely happen, just that it might.
Koeman gave us an ultimatum, that we could either make him an offer much closer to what Everton were offering -- or he would simply not sign the new deal, and see out the last year of his contract as promised. This effectively massively backfired on him, as our Board were really not that fussed. We have other excellent candidates on our shortlist who we feel would stick much more closely to our Club philosophies, and therefore be a better fit with the Club -- and as stated -- many players who'd be happy to see the back of him.So the Saints Board effectively called his bluff, and said sorry Ron -- either you sign the deal you've already verbally agreed to -- or you can take the Everton job and we'll get in someone who will do things the way we want, according to our Club philosophy. What we won't have, is a "lame duck" manager seeing out the last year of his contract, when what we want, is for someone committed to our new Five-Year Plan and hungry to build on what we've already achieved. Ronald simply wasn't showing the kind of commitment we were looking for, so we gave him the choice to either do so, or fuck off to Everton. Lol.We gave him two weeks to decide what to do; sign the new contract, or go fuck himself. Ron stormed off in a huff on holiday number two after this, and we shall await the final outcome. It is not beyond the realms of possibility that he yet may end up staying, so don't burn any effigies just yet -- although to be honest -- I suspect that bridge has now been burnt sufficiently from both ends to be unlikely in the extreme. Though, stranger things have happened -- like Ronald Koeman being interested in a club like Everton for example, lol. And this is why the whole sorry saga has been playing out now for so long. Ronald doesn't reallywant the Everton job -- but his own duplicitous conduct has ended up forcing him down a path he was entirely not expecting! He badly misjudged the situation and his own worth to the Club -- and thought that we would bend to his will, to keep such an esteemed figure at the Club at all costs. And now -- if he doesn't take the Everton job -- he looks like a complete *****, as he [almost certainly] won't be staying at Saints. Well, he looks like a complete ***** either way now, whatever he does, lol.He's completely blown the reputation he carefully established for integrity, decency, and being a man of honour and respect.
Another thing, is that we will not budge on the finer details of his compensation package with Everton. Some of which (including guarantees that they will not make offers for any Southampton players once Koeman arrives) are proving to be a real sticking point, as is the contract on offer to his brother Erwin, and the fact that both Erwin and particularly Jan Kluitenberg (our fitness coach) are pissed off at Ronald, as they both love being at Saints, and didn't want to leave. Erwin, ultimately, will be loyal to Ron -- but Jan (and his family) really love living in the area, have settled really well here and don't particularly want to leave. (He may yet even end up staying). If Everton do not agree to absolutely everything that Saints want -- we are quite happy to deny Everton permission to take our under contract manager, and essentially "hang him out to dry" for a year whilst his contract runs down, and we'll get on and appoint someone who does want to commit to us fully.
Moving on to that now -- and some details of our shortlist:Most of the names in the press are not our preferred targets. Don't worry at some of the horriffic options that have been bandied around. The likes of Moyes and McClaren are nowhere near consideration. I've heard Pellegrini linked in the media, and he is on our list, but only as an albeit very decent back up option if we don't get one of our preferred candidates. Eddie Howe I've also seen linked, he is on our long-term watch list of potential managers that is constantly updated, and Les Reed in particular is a big fan -- but overall we don't feel that he yet has the required level of experience or "gravitas" to impress our Europe-bound Squad or the names we're looking to bring into the Club. Frank De Boer has also been linked everywhere, and is on our list -- but some way down the pecking order, as we prefer someone with experience and evidence of implementing their philosophy across a range of Clubs to show consistency in application, whereas Frank has so far only managed at Ajax.My friend [indicated to the existence of, but] will not reveal the names - of two of our most favoured options at the top of the list, as they do not want to risk alerting other Clubs to the possibility of their availabilty, but other than those, I can say that Murat Yakin [currently out of contract after parting ways with Spartak Moscow] Vitor Pereira [of Fenerbahçe], Paco Jémez [of Rayo Vallecano] are all managers who are thought of very highly by the Club, sharing in our philosophy and playing the brand of football we like, and have long been on our watch-list. So if we don't get one of our two unrevealed names, those three are high on our appreciated list. So too very much is Thomas Tuchel, but the fact he's only just recently replaced Jurgen Klopp at Dortmund crosses him off of our potential targets for now, [he's unlikely to be interested].
And that is about all I have for now. But suffice to say, that if Koeman does eventually end up at Everton -- it is only because we have succeeded in getting everything that we want from Everton in order to release him from his contract. Otherwise, enjoy a year of downtime Ron -- and just think of all the holidays and golfing opportunities you'll be able to partake of!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 17, 2016, 10:11:19 PM
Can somebody change this thread title please?

Koeman spouting some absolute nonsense today chucking the board under the bus claiming an ultimatum and that he wanted to see his contract out.

This is a man who has consistently publicly derided the merry go round of managers and always talked about the value of contracts. The last great bastion of the old school manager who believed in integrity and trust. Left such a sour taste and going to receive some real stick when Everton come to town in November. I will be first in line.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on June 17, 2016, 10:12:52 PM
What do you want to change it to?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: PathFinder on June 17, 2016, 10:35:03 PM
What do you want to change it to?

Koeman is a toffee nose?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Marky147 on June 17, 2016, 10:36:22 PM
Koeman is a ****?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 17, 2016, 10:41:54 PM
God is a Saint.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: KarmaDope on June 17, 2016, 11:00:50 PM
Why not just change it to Southampton FC?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: 4KSuited on June 17, 2016, 11:40:04 PM
Saints and Sinners?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 17, 2016, 11:59:08 PM
Any of them are good.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: pleno1 on June 18, 2016, 02:36:20 AM
How big of a role will ward prowse play next season? Time for him to step up? Think his lack of athleticism will hold him back?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 18, 2016, 01:08:50 PM
Changed


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 19, 2016, 07:15:17 AM
How big of a role will ward prowse play next season? Time for him to step up? Think his lack of athleticism will hold him back?

Love Ward-Prowse!

Only 21 and already over 100 appearances. He does have an issue with being a little slight, he can get bullied. Very good technically though and has shown he can be a good Premier League star.

This is the season he will be pushing to nail down a first team place. Needs to find his ideal position too. Will be watching with interest.

Good to see Steven Davies signing a new contract. Got another 2 good years in him yet and will need to lead from infront of the back 4 with no Wanyama next season. Good chance for Romeu and Clasie to step up.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 23, 2016, 12:30:06 AM
wow klinsman has come out of the blue

not sure how i will feel if its comes through

put a few quid on it wth betfair exchange just incase the other bookies have heard something
if they have the price wont be there tomorrow


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 23, 2016, 12:35:22 AM
http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/43116/


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 25, 2016, 04:55:24 PM
It is looking increasingly likely that our new manager will be Claude Puel.

This is a good read highlighting his achievements with Nice.

http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/ogc-nice-the-alternative-football-success-story/

Ticks all the boxes. Would expect he has been on the radar for a few years as a potential manager.

Mane will almost certainly leave for a fee north of £30 million. Good business. His goals will need replacing though. In a different position, Nathan Redmond is completing a medical today - £11 million.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: booder on June 25, 2016, 05:30:26 PM
Think you may be disappointed with Redmond , promises much but didn't get the nickname Row-Z-mond  by accident.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: arbboy on June 25, 2016, 05:32:50 PM
Good news for Stoke that you are signing Redmond.  Was dreading Stoke signing him.  Looks massively over rated to me.  Agree with Booder.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: 77dave on June 25, 2016, 09:18:42 PM
Any idea who Liverpool will be looking to sign next pre season?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 25, 2016, 10:52:46 PM
Classie,  he is going to have a great season


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 30, 2016, 03:17:28 PM
Great news Eric black appointed asst manager, and lesser news some French guy appointed manager


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: rinswun on June 30, 2016, 08:03:28 PM
Why don't Liverpool just sign the Saints scouting team instead of signing their players summer after summer?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 30, 2016, 09:57:09 PM
Great news Eric black appointed asst manager, and lesser news some French guy appointed manager

A good French guy, strong European pedigree, proven work with youngsters, knows how to deal with big players, good links in the game, tactical fit.

Ticks lots of boxes, looks a good choice on paper. Doesn't have the Premier League experience of Pellegrini but brings a lot to the table.

We are one of many clubs that have made proposals to Ben Arfa. I wonder whether Puel can have some influence their. Expecting to see 3 or 4 new faces now.

36 million for Mane is a lot of money but trying to establish value in the Premier league is impossible now. We have done very well selling players over the last few years. There is no shame in being a selling club. We can show a clear route to bigger things that many of the other sides competing for similar players cannot. That is why we secured Van Dijk when a number of other clubs were interested.

Players back in training next week.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: PokerBroker on July 01, 2016, 08:41:26 AM
Eric Black is lolbad gets managers sacked for fun, attempts to take over and it ends in a disaster.  He's like a sheep pumpingTommy Craig.  If Eric has any say on team affairs, transfers or tactics Southampton could be prime candidates for relegation. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Black


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 08, 2016, 09:37:53 PM
Pelle off to China. £13 million.

http://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/11700/10496118/graziano-pelle-leaving-southampton-for-china-sky-sources

Good money for a 31 year old.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 09, 2016, 12:19:06 AM
Pelle off to China. £13 million.

http://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/11700/10496118/graziano-pelle-leaving-southampton-for-china-sky-sources

Good money for a 31 year old.

very good deal seeing he only has 12 months let to run, and good luck to him had 2 good seasons with us.
he hasnt asked to move and saints didnt want to give him an extension at present so good for both parties
£6 million a season must be a massive pay rise for Pelle


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 10, 2016, 11:47:22 PM
maybe that will stop players leaving southampton to further there international chances of success

only 2 EPL players picked up a winners medal tonight both are saints

JUST SAYING


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 11, 2016, 04:34:38 PM
Pelle off to China. £13 million.

http://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/11700/10496118/graziano-pelle-leaving-southampton-for-china-sky-sources

Good money for a 31 year old.

confirmed deal, good for all parties IMHO Austin was signed in January as it was likely pelle was off this window.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: dino1980 on July 12, 2016, 01:43:24 AM
Pelle off to China. £13 million.

http://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/11700/10496118/graziano-pelle-leaving-southampton-for-china-sky-sources

Good money for a 31 year old.

I don't support a PL club but Southampton are, by a distance, my favourite club as a neutral. You're definitely the best team at operating a 'moneyball' setup. With apologies to Tighty I think, overall, if clubs followed the Southampton model they'd have more success in the long term than  trying to build a team in the Leicester mould (one that plays like them, rather than off the field stuff).

Really hope The Saints have another great season.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on July 13, 2016, 10:37:52 AM
Pelle off to China. £13 million.

http://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/11700/10496118/graziano-pelle-leaving-southampton-for-china-sky-sources

Good money for a 31 year old.

I don't support a PL club but Southampton are, by a distance, my favourite club as a neutral. You're definitely the best team at operating a 'moneyball' setup. With apologies to Tighty I think, overall, if clubs followed the Southampton model they'd have more success in the long term than  trying to build a team in the Leicester mould (one that plays like them, rather than off the field stuff).

Really hope The Saints have another great season.

why would our style of play not be sustainable?

not sure what you are getting at, off the field we've had tremendous success at value for money in the transfer market, tactically we have round pegs in round holes, superb team spirit

nothing against Suthampton who have done remarkably to rebuild each off-season


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on July 13, 2016, 10:38:05 AM
Meet Southampton new boy Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg, the Dane who fell out with Pep at Bayern http://dailym.ai/29OEL2D


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on July 13, 2016, 11:23:24 AM
Think this Danish chap will be a cracking signing.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 21, 2016, 11:32:55 PM
saints are signing all the important younger players on long term deals shane long signs a 4 year deal today

looks like the core of the team will be with us for along time to come


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 22, 2016, 05:31:47 PM
First away game of the season is United which has been moved to Friday night for TV.

Virgin Media (sponsors) have subsidised tickets so it's £20 for adults and free coach travel too. Fantastic stuff. 


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 28, 2016, 12:43:08 PM
strong rumor of McCartney from palace joining for £2 million seems will be good for all parties
palace dont need 4 experienced keepers saints need a back up for Forster and McCartney wants to be able to push through for 1st team footy


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 02, 2016, 12:48:56 AM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/young-southampton-fan-sings-loudly-8537653


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on August 25, 2016, 02:34:51 PM
Southampton have agreed a club record £21m fee for Lille forward Sofiane Boufal


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on August 25, 2016, 06:10:41 PM
Have never seen him play personally but his name always pops up on other forums/twitter about who the most promising young players are. Great signing for Southampton if the hype is to be believed.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TheDazzler on August 25, 2016, 06:26:10 PM
Not good news for anyone with a plethora of Nathan Redmond bets, like me!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on August 25, 2016, 07:02:35 PM
One word of warning on Boufal is that he is recovering from a serious injury.  Doubt he'll be match fit till mid October.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 26, 2016, 12:10:19 AM
More importantly Fonte signing an improved contract for £75k from £45K is a boost with all the talk going round about him

still for the 2 years but puts him on the same sort of deal as the highest earners at the club or about the same as a bench warmer at man u


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on August 26, 2016, 01:47:25 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqyG5JfXEAAVQCj.jpg)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 26, 2016, 03:59:29 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqyG5JfXEAAVQCj.jpg)

Brilliant draw with away trips to Milan, Prague and Israel.

Going to try for tickets dependent on dates. Very excited.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 26, 2016, 04:42:30 PM
nice draw think all the games should be close and i would imagine all 4 teams will think they can get through


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 26, 2016, 05:37:41 PM
Cedric signs a 4 year deal and a lifelong  3rd choice keeper come in for back up in Stuart Taylor

so on long term deals signed since end of last season

Forster
Cedric
VVD
Bertrand
JWP
Redmond
Hojeberg
Long
J-Rod


with a few more in talks and maybe some i have missed should give us stability for the next few transfer windows
and all of an age where they could allbe growing together and peaking together

good news for the future of the saints IMHO

bad news is (unless you go by the name of thedazzler)  there is whispers of the Leicester  trying to get involved with Boufal


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 26, 2016, 05:38:48 PM
oh forgot Classie still has 4 years to run on his contract


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 29, 2016, 01:04:31 PM
Pied out for 6 months with acl

And new signing from Lillie gone through

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37184192


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on August 29, 2016, 01:06:32 PM
Southampton have announced the signing of Sofiane Boufal for a club-record fee.

he's the one on the left as you look

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrBbMwyW8AIDRch.jpg)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 29, 2016, 01:35:07 PM
Much needed as we have looked poor in attack so far.

Charlie Austin was blooming awful on Saturday. I think he had 14 touches in 75mins, not one inside the box. Looked completely off the pace.

I think it's the right decision to keep J-Rod, we need that option to turn to. This new system is going to take a while to adjust to watching - gone from the high press to possession and slow build. Lots of quality throughout the team but it's going to take a while for everything to gel together.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 31, 2016, 11:26:30 PM
What a dreadful deadline day, forster out injured withdrawn from england squad length of injury unknown but doesnt sound good


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 01, 2016, 05:39:00 PM
wow england calls our back up keeper Macartney as cover for Forster


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: exstream on September 29, 2016, 10:25:58 PM
Southampton Football Club has today been made aware by the Daily Telegraph that, as part of their on-going investigation, the club's assistant first team manager Eric Black will feature as part of an article in tomorrow's paper.

The club immediately requested to be sent, by the Daily Telegraph, the details of this article, but the newspaper declined to share any further information. We have today contacted The FA and the Premier League, and intend to work closely with both bodies on this matter when the facts become clear.

Southampton Football Club is fully committed to investigating any situation that directly or indirectly relates to our club, employees or the wider community.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on September 29, 2016, 11:00:27 PM
Southampton Football Club has today been made aware by the Daily Telegraph that, as part of their on-going investigation, the club's assistant first team manager Eric Black will feature as part of an article in tomorrow's paper.

The club immediately requested to be sent, by the Daily Telegraph, the details of this article, but the newspaper declined to share any further information. We have today contacted The FA and the Premier League, and intend to work closely with both bodies on this matter when the facts become clear.

Southampton Football Club is fully committed to investigating any situation that directly or indirectly relates to our club, employees or the wider community.

What an idiot. Staggeringly naive, these people just openly chatting about bungs. Get him out. Maybe can convince Sammy Lee to come back given he suddenly looking for a job again!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 26, 2016, 10:40:12 PM
that was a goal of beauty to mark his first start in a saints jersey for our record sighing
great touch then great finish

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgLUmK72mgY


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: booder on October 27, 2016, 10:35:47 AM
Le Tiss would have been proud of that.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 27, 2016, 08:05:43 PM
Le Tiss would have been proud of that.

yeah lets hope he continues in that mode will make up for losing Mane already hearing people saying he is an upgrade to Mane but way to early to say that


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 08, 2016, 11:45:04 PM
shambles tonight


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 02, 2017, 05:55:27 PM
Pressure on Puel now.

Tactics are bizarre, playing some horrible negative football. Have not looked threatening without Austin at all.

Also have no idea what our first team is anymore and am sure that Puel doesn't either. 5-6 changes every game is hurting us now.

Not panic stations yet but the brand of football is what is most concerning - drab with a capital D.

Reportedly if City want Van Dijk in January then the number is £60 million! Will likely go for £40-45 in the Summer.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 02, 2017, 05:58:54 PM
too many changes week in week out keeping guys fresh and squad players happy but players dont get used to each other



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: rinswun on January 02, 2017, 06:55:26 PM
Why isn't Bertrand playing?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 02, 2017, 07:19:19 PM
Why isn't Bertrand playing?

Ill today according to the manager after the game.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on January 03, 2017, 11:10:13 AM
as i said on tft when i saw it, 3 games in 6 days over xmas gave southampton the toughest schedule of any team over Xmas

rotation was inevitable, tiredness even more inevitable

got the rough end of the stick.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 03, 2017, 05:07:35 PM
The players weren't that tired they were just terrible
They were running West Brom off  the pitch for the last 30 minutes


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 05, 2017, 06:56:38 PM
(http://i68.tinypic.com/123r39f.jpg)

Jose Fonte hands in a transfer request. :-(

He is the last remnant of the league one team and has really been the heart of the side for 7 years.

Need a good replacement before he goes anywhere as Yoshida is not an adequate stop gap.

This says a lot about our wage structure. Fonte obviously believes he can get that one big deal elsewhere. Probably makes good business sense but tugs at the heart strings.

I assume we have some options in the pipeline given he was making these rumblings in the Summer.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 05, 2017, 08:47:13 PM
(http://i68.tinypic.com/123r39f.jpg)

Jose Fonte hands in a transfer request. :-(

He is the last remnant of the league one team and has really been the heart of the side for 7 years.

Need a good replacement before he goes anywhere as Yoshida is not an adequate stop gap.

This says a lot about our wage structure. Fonte obviously believes he can get that one big deal elsewhere. Probably makes good business sense but tugs at the heart strings.

I assume we have some options in the pipeline given he was making these rumblings in the Summer.

i think he was more moved to hand in the request after not being allowed to lead "HIS" team in europe


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Karabiner on January 05, 2017, 10:42:47 PM
Yer da's a nonce.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 20, 2017, 08:17:14 PM
i hope one day we get a transfer window where we dont lose an important first team player


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 20, 2017, 11:22:01 PM
i hope one day we get a transfer window where we dont lose an important first team player

£8-9 million though for a 33 year old. Talk from behind the scenes is that he wanted out immediately after winning the Euros and was not being very professional so not much to be done really. We offered him 70K a week so assume West Ham have topped that considerably. He has had a noticeable dip in form occasionally this season (gave away 3 penalties so far I think), a mixture of age catching up and underlying attitude I expect.

Could do with beating Leicester on Sunday then just holding tight until the Summer. We look destined for mid table so seems little point panic buying to try and reach 8th at best. I can't see how we keep Van Dijk this Summer so scouts need to get busy.

Fonte an absolute legend. We have West Ham at home at the start of Feb, he should get a good reception really but I doubt it.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 20, 2017, 11:33:07 PM
yeah think it was very good deal for saints just leaving us threadbare at the back with the chance of getting a cup final place midweek

i dont see VVD leaving seemingly he is building his own house on the south coast and loves it down there, also if he was thinking of moving on he wouldnt have wound up the fans wearing the secret santa city shirt

i do think he will move on in 2 or 3 seasons but to a big Spanish team


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 25, 2017, 07:12:47 AM
Fonte sold and VVD out for upto 3 months think we might need a couple of defenders in next week


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 25, 2017, 10:53:57 PM
WEMBLEY here comes the Saints


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 25, 2017, 10:58:32 PM
WEMBLEY here comes the Saints

Nearly hit the ceiling when Long knocked that in. Much the better team over two legs, thoroughly deserved.

Puel nailed tactics in both games. Brilliant.

7 years since last Wembley trip with Saints for JPT. Can't wait to go again.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on January 29, 2017, 11:51:25 AM
i know there is a big disconnect between (some) fans and clubs as to the FA Cup

and it was Southampton's ninth game in january yesterday

but (play another record) wasn't the team selection yesterday a complete shocker?

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‏@mrjakehumphrey

Decisions like Puel's to make 10 changes do the Fa Cup no favours.  Not going down, unlikely to make top 7...so go for it in the cup!!!!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 29, 2017, 12:12:02 PM
i know there is a big disconnect between (some) fans and clubs as to the FA Cup

and it was Southampton's ninth game in january yesterday

but (play another record) wasn't the team selection yesterday a complete shocker?

Jake Humphrey Verified account
‏@mrjakehumphrey

Decisions like Puel's to make 10 changes do the Fa Cup no favours.  Not going down, unlikely to make top 7...so go for it in the cup!!!!

From a personal point of view, I couldn't care less about the FA cup. I had a season ticket for 7 years from age of 21-28 and I think went to one FA cup game. I am from the era that doesn't buy into the "magic of the cup". If we make a run then great but I am unlikely to invest unless we made the last 4.

The only way to really bring through young players is to give them real games. The nature of the premier league makes that harder and harder so I am all for giving them opportunities in the league cup and FA cup where the pressure is off.

Admittedly selling out the ground and getting hammered 0-5 doesn't look great but I wouldn't have changed anything either.

Not a Jake Humphrey fan at all. From the school of "banter" rather than knowledge. Pushing the same old narrative as it suits the BT coverage but the reality is many teams moved away from taking the FA cup seriously years ago.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on January 29, 2017, 12:28:25 PM
thanks

i think i am just realising i am living in a lost era!



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: booder on January 29, 2017, 12:38:46 PM
thanks

i think i am just realising i am living in a lost era!



Me too mate , me too.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 29, 2017, 02:05:52 PM
I love the cup but as I posted on a fb group last night, we have played more games than any other epl side this year, we have 9 players getting treatment for knocks or injuries that have played for us this season just now, less than 72 hours since we reached the league cup final and potential 3 more fa cup games before that Wembley date (draw v Arsenal would of meant replay 5th round and another replay). Let the squad recover now one game a week until the final and get there rested and ready to play.



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: nirvana on January 29, 2017, 10:01:51 PM
Must've been so worrying to have to fret the possibility of a draw for 15 mins


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Doobs on January 29, 2017, 11:04:55 PM
I love the cup but as I posted on a fb group last night, we have played more games than any other epl side this year, we have 9 players getting treatment for knocks or injuries that have played for us this season just now, less than 72 hours since we reached the league cup final and potential 3 more fa cup games before that Wembley date (draw v Arsenal would of meant replay 5th round and another replay). Let the squad recover now one game a week until the final and get there rested and ready to play.



But you play Tuesday?  Best 11 then and again on Saturday?

Swansea 23/10.  Saints 5/4.  Fwiw


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: hhyftrftdr on January 29, 2017, 11:37:11 PM
Pretty sad to see Southampton throwing a comp as glorious as the FA Cup.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 29, 2017, 11:58:05 PM
Pretty sad to see Southampton throwing a comp as glorious as the FA Cup.

we kinda threw the UEFA cup too and looked like the EFL cup wednessday was by far our strongest midweek team this season and yeah we basically have to sides one for weekends one for midweek
with romeu VVD and forster only guys playing 2 full games a week

with VVD injured last thing we needed was romeu picking up and injury or suspension


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on February 01, 2017, 12:05:00 AM
Fuming about sacko, how many players have we sold Liverpool?  They reject our loan attempt then loan him to palace, gutted we didn't get a CB with Vvd out for potentially 3 months we don't have any cover for another injury


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on February 16, 2017, 09:52:18 PM
picked up a much needed CB today pity he is injury prone but if he can keep healthy to the end of the season we have a cracker


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on February 26, 2017, 07:40:30 PM
GUTTED



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on February 26, 2017, 11:09:22 PM
We were fantastic and the luck was just not with us today.

Some brilliant tributes to Markus Liebherr. Regardless of the result, a very special day to be a Southampton fan.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on March 16, 2017, 03:10:16 PM
first call ups for JWP and Redmond making 4 Saints (with Forester and Bertrand) and 4 sinners (Clyne, Shaw, Lallana Oxlade-Chamberlain) in the Englandshire squad


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 01, 2017, 10:59:08 PM
Bust up at training today and Redmond, Bertrand and VVD all saying they will ask for a move if Puel is there next season. Also rumours of him being sacking and replace by Raneri in the next 48 hours.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on May 21, 2017, 09:53:43 AM
It is looking increasingly likely that Puel is going to lose his job at the end of the season.

Despite likely finishing 8th and reaching a cup final that we were very unlucky not to win.

There is a lot of bad feeling around the ground. My dad informed me when we last spoke that he has decided not to renew his season ticket unless Puel leaves! I was pretty shocked by that given he has been a season ticket holder since I was born. He is prone to OTT opinion when it comes to football but I didn't realise it had got that bad having not been to as many games this season. Apparently everyone sitting around him are also not renewing.

This is the first season where we haven't improved league position for 7 seasons.

2010 - 7th league 1
2011 - 2nd league 1 (promoted)
2012 - 2nd championship (promoted)
2013 - 14th prem
2014 - 8th prem
2015 - 7th prem
2016 - 6th prem
2017 - ????

It would still seem incredibly harsh on paper to sack Puel but the football has been dire for the whole home campaign. Just 41 goals in 37 games. Just 17 goals scored in 18 home games.

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/southampton/next-permanent-manager




Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 01, 2017, 02:36:55 PM
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3687981/southampton-new-manager-thomas-tuchel/

Would be very surprised if this happens. Puel may just about survive as there are just not a lot of feasible candidates out there in my view.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on June 06, 2017, 08:44:34 AM
If Virgil goes from Saints to Liverpool for £60m, it's £152m of players doing that since 2014. Or 10-fold what the Liebherrs paid for Saints


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on June 06, 2017, 11:49:17 AM
Southampton are going to report the approach to the Premier League.

There was a meeting this morning at St. Marys with a few angry senior people at the club. There has been no official offers from Liverpool yet Virgil is saying he wants to go their as Klopp has personally been involved in chasing him.

Suspect it will get done but, as is usual, we will dig our heels in to get the best deal. Goes without saying that selling your best players every Summer is so demoralising for the fans. It's the reality of modern football and being the sort of club we are but it still pains. Say the same thing every year.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 06, 2017, 12:21:04 PM
I still think we will keep him unless bid gets super crazy 80 million


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Rod Paradise on June 06, 2017, 04:05:15 PM
Southampton are going to report the approach to the Premier League.

There was a meeting this morning at St. Marys with a few angry senior people at the club. There has been no official offers from Liverpool yet Virgil is saying he wants to go their as Klopp has personally been involved in chasing him.

Suspect it will get done but, as is usual, we will dig our heels in to get the best deal. Goes without saying that selling your best players every Summer is so demoralising for the fans. It's the reality of modern football and being the sort of club we are but it still pains. Say the same thing every year.

You have my sympathy.....

(http://i1.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article8139606.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/celtic.jpg)

And there will be others (like ironsides if rumours of Hayes are correct) who are of a similar sarcastic mind to my club....


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 07, 2017, 07:28:53 PM
is this the end of the VVD saga i doubt it but hope it is

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/15334246.Liverpool_apologise_and_end_van_Dijk_interest/


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: celtic on June 14, 2017, 10:24:09 PM
Manager gone.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 14, 2017, 11:21:59 PM
Manager gone.

he had lost the fans and some reports the dressing room but certainly not what we need, we need strong and stable for atleast 1 summer


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 14, 2017, 11:42:03 PM
fixture list seems a little unbalanced this is my predictions

in the first 11 games the home match with Man U is the only game against a top7 side
then after the international break at the beginning of November we play 10 games including playing all of the top 7
including away games to liverpool man city chelsea spurs and  man u before the end of the year

So with a bit of luck everyone is going to be bigging up our league standing as we get 20+ out of the first 33
then lucky if we get 5 points between the international break and the new year game.

games then become a little easier again so we start to look to break into the top 6
but we crash and burn when we play 4 of the top 7 in final 6 games
we finish 8/9/10 and people will claim we bottled it


if anyone on the forum is a gambler i would be backing saints pre season/ laying them before the liverpool then backing for top 6 before the palace game on new years days and laying them after the west ham game at the end of march


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: booder on June 15, 2017, 12:49:33 AM
Manager gone.


Pleno next manager


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 23, 2017, 05:40:44 PM
Mauricio Pellegrino signs for 3 years no idea who he is but lets hope for some stability for a bit


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 24, 2017, 05:17:53 PM
Chelsea have offered £60m for VVD saints say £65m or he aint going anywhere
i have a horrid feeling he will be gone soon enough but cant knock back £65m


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: PokerBroker on June 24, 2017, 05:54:26 PM
Chelsea have offered £60m for VVD saints say £65m or he aint going anywhere
i have a horrid feeling he will be gone soon enough but cant knock back £65m

Great result for Celtic.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 25, 2017, 04:16:56 AM
6million not really that much in these days for transfers championship players are going for 7 figures



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 28, 2017, 10:02:52 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12691/10929681/southampton-to-keep-virgil-van-dijk-and-cedric-soares-after-agreement-with-mauricio-pellegrino

VVD and Cedric to remain saints the board agreed with Pellegrino before he  took on the Job


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: PokerBroker on July 01, 2017, 04:17:29 AM
6million not really that much in these days for transfers championship players are going for 7 figures



We got him for 2.5 million I think.  sold him for 12 million with the potential of another 6 million windfall.  And to be fair we have replaced him reasonably cheaply, I was sad when he left because I thought we could have got another year out of him, I was more disappointed when we lost Wanyama and Foster to be honest.

The important thing for me is  there will be players in Holland who watch VVD path who may not have got the big move to the EPL they initially hoped for who might see Celtic as a place to spend a few seasons, especially under the tutelage of Brendan Rogers who will think they can go and get that big move. 

So yes you are right players might move around from the championship for 7 figures but we got a decent player for a few years made a stinking profit and I hope more importantly we have highlighted that coming from Holland to the SPL isn't a bad move. 

Had Van Gaal and Hiddink not ben so ignorant of VVD's talents then perhaps the dutch team may also have done better in the 2014 world cup and perhaps qualification for Euro 2016.

Lastly, VVD always speaks highly of Celtic and his time with the club and I think that is another key thing for attracting young players from the lowlands to Scotland.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 02, 2017, 07:42:45 PM
JRod moves on best for all 3 parties. Great player on his day but found it hard to get going again after the season long Injury he suffered 2 years ago.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: POWWWWWWWW on July 13, 2017, 06:58:04 PM
This is great-

https://twitter.com/SouthamptonFC/status/885551913856630784/video/1


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 14, 2017, 07:44:09 AM
This is great-

https://twitter.com/SouthamptonFC/status/885551913856630784/video/1

Top notch


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 14, 2017, 04:13:27 PM
LMAO "Alan Shearer and I were in close contact for many years before a restraining order in 1997"


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on July 26, 2017, 08:05:00 AM
Source close to Virgil van Dijk expects him to be a Liverpool player by end of the window. More here: http://skysports.tv/iRIh4p


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 28, 2017, 07:10:30 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/28/southampton-determined-keep-virgil-van-dijk-plan-reintegrate/

He was 6/1 to stay this morning, best price 5/2 now.

Still think there is an strong chance we hold our ground and force another year out of him. If he does go then will be a huge fee.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 07, 2017, 05:46:27 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40855579

hands in transfer request at-least now he loses any claim to the rest of his contract he would get if club sold him without him requesting a move


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 07, 2017, 05:57:44 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40855579

hands in transfer request at-least now he loses any claim to the rest of his contract he would get if club sold him without him requesting a move

The whole situation is a toxic mess, need to get him out and get a replacement sorted ASAP. I would just bring Chelsea to the table now and get the deal done.

We have obviously tried everything to keep him. Good on the club for fining him too. Refusing to train and play.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 07, 2017, 09:16:56 PM
personally i would offer him a new contract 1 year less that present one but 10k per week less
70 million release clause but he has to buy out the remaining portion of his contract so with 3 years left at 5 million a season then its £70 million plus £15 million from player
with 2 years left its just £10 million from player plus the £70 million


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Rod Paradise on August 07, 2017, 10:37:51 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40855579

hands in transfer request at-least now he loses any claim to the rest of his contract he would get if club sold him without him requesting a move

WTF?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 08, 2017, 03:05:42 AM
Seemingly he would be paid the remaining portion of his contract in full if sold unless he requested the transfer seems bizarre


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on August 08, 2017, 08:30:04 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGqHh1FXgAAAojd.jpg)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 12, 2017, 04:53:49 PM
1 shot at target every 3 minutes 12 seconds
1 shot on target every 45 minutes



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Dacorb on August 12, 2017, 05:10:00 PM
Watched the game from a Swans perspective, apart from some dreadful finishing you mullered us, should have been a landslide


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 12, 2017, 05:40:45 PM
Watched the game from a Swans perspective, apart from some dreadful finishing you mullered us, should have been a landslide

yeah we were strong in middle of park and created some good chances but couldn't hit Korea with a nuclear missile today


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on August 14, 2017, 04:40:55 PM
BBC Sport understands the Gao family have bought about 80% of Southampton Football Club. Read more: http://bbc.in/2vUX5AF 


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 14, 2017, 05:45:13 PM
BBC Sport understands the Gao family have bought about 80% of Southampton Football Club. Read more: http://bbc.in/2vUX5AF 

Katharina Liebherr announced it earlier so is confirmed


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 16, 2017, 05:54:55 PM
still not for sale

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/15477027.Krueger__Virgil_will_be_welcomed_back_when_he_accepts_he_is_not_for_sale/


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 22, 2017, 09:03:28 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41019083

more defensive cover


think Classi and Gardos might be moved on

VVD still not for sale apparently


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 31, 2017, 11:31:22 PM
VVD stays now lets see if he knuckles down

as i expected Classi moved out on loan


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on September 01, 2017, 12:13:41 PM
Well, the Virgil Van Dijk saga is over.

All the pundits said he will leave, the bookies were convinced, the fans were convinced that we wouldn’t have the guts to force him to stay. This is a signal of intent and a victory for the second tier teams that we are no longer going to be walked all over by the supposed “elite”. With all the crazy money flying around, it is not all player power as has been proved.

What on earth do you do with him now though? This is a player that handed in a transfer request and was fined two weeks wages for refusing to play (£160k). A reminder of the statement:-

"I had very much hoped to retain the good relationship I’ve always enjoyed with everyone at the club, especially the fans, but unfortunately in light of everything that’s happened this has now been seriously affected, the time for me to move on is now and I hope to be able to work with the club to find the best resolution to suit all parties.”

It’s a pretty audacious thing to say when you look at it in the cold light of day. “The time for me to move is now”. LOL.

So we are left with a player who hasn’t played a competitive match since January. He hasn’t been around the first team training for many months and is obviously still going to be thoroughly peeved off. He has a world cup coming up this Summer though, is he really going to want to go on strike until January/next Summer. Saints have shown they aren’t going to be pushed around and he has another 4 years on his contract.

Interesting situation. I guess we see him make himself available for selection, issue a half apology and leave next Summer for £65 million.

For now, well done Les Reed and for the first time in a long time, finally HAHAHAHAHA Liverpool. Gl with Lovren.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 29, 2017, 07:46:06 PM
saints go 5 at back and 3 DM tonight against city lets hope we can hold city to 3 goals max


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 29, 2017, 09:57:17 PM
WOW great defensive performance
unlocked by a great Sterling goal in the 96th minute


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on December 10, 2017, 12:50:10 PM
Charlie Austin goal streaks:

Sep to Oct 13: 6 goals in 6 apps
Oct to Dec 14: 10 in 9
Aug to Sep 15: 7 in 7
Sep to Oct 16: 7 in 6
Nov to Dec 17: 4 in 4

#usefulbettingstats


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 02, 2018, 10:37:44 PM
moved this from TfT

Any love for Palace tonight at 3/1 away at Southampton?

A team on the up vs a team going in the other direction.

Good shout, Saints absolutely pathetic tonight.

next manager to go?

I would get rid now. I suspect they will wait until early Feb / as late as possible in the hope we pick up.

Players must shoulder some blame, this is the same group that finished 8th last year. Some of the performances this season have been woeful but we are just as tactically inept. We badly need players in January but if the system doesn't change then it won't matter.

Who is out there to come to the rescue? Would like to see water under the bridge with Koeman but no chance.

He is playing same formation and style as Puel last season and rotating just as much even though we have alot fewer game, Manager is out of his depth. We are 8th smallest odds for relegation we should be 3rd favourite with the current squad Yoshida doesnt have the quailty/consistently for the EPL Stephens looks like he could be a player but needs someone experienced to work with him Hoedt will be a good replacement for Fonte but now we need a replacement for VVD who can bring Stephens along, we have 3 good DM in Romeu Lemina and Hojbjerg but rotation means they can't build up that understanding. Our strikers can't score, Boufal is a show pony Tadic looks like he has given up. Forster has no confidence (playing behind a different back 4 ever game). Even with a new manager and 4 or 5 new players we are going to struggle.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 11, 2018, 02:41:28 PM
This is an excellent article.

https://stmarysmusings.sbnation.com/2018/1/8/16855500/does-the-southampton-way-still-exist


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 31, 2018, 01:40:14 PM
One of the biggest games for Saints in the last few years tonight.

Not sure I can watch.

We don't win and the pressure is on. Beat Brighton and beat WBA at the weekend and pressure is off.

We lose tonight and manager will surely get the chop and parachute Silva in.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 31, 2018, 08:43:46 PM
One of the biggest games for Saints in the last few years tonight.

Not sure I can watch.

We don't win and the pressure is on. Beat Brighton and beat WBA at the weekend and pressure is off.

We lose tonight and manager will surely get the chop and parachute Silva in.

hughes is supposed to be in the wings


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on February 11, 2018, 05:30:58 PM
Tough times


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Karabiner on February 11, 2018, 07:35:39 PM
Ronald Koeman bought some cracking players while he was at So't'on, Mane and Van Dijk to name a couple - but almost exclusively overpriced damp squibs for Everton.

Why did a shrewd investor in the transfer market suddenly become a mug punterer overnight?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on February 11, 2018, 08:51:28 PM
Ronald Koeman bought some cracking players while he was at So't'on, Mane and Van Dijk to name a couple - but almost exclusively overpriced damp squibs for Everton.

Why did a shrewd investor in the transfer market suddenly become a mug punterer overnight?

Very little of the transfer market dealings are done by managers/head coaches anymore they put out positions they feel need strengthening and the backroom will come back with likely targets for manager to look at, but even then its people like Les Reed who will get the final say in who comes in and goes out


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on March 12, 2018, 08:49:08 PM
Southampton have sacked Mauricio Pellegrino. Full story to come


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on March 12, 2018, 08:55:24 PM
Southampton have sacked Mauricio Pellegrino. Full story to come

FFS only himself to blame but we have no consistency of management squad or line up


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on March 13, 2018, 10:39:51 AM
Pellegrino axed: his record in Saints context, stats via BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43364304

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYHjlWrWkAQlLJC.jpg)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on March 13, 2018, 11:15:22 AM
A huge relief.

Quite comfortably the worst football we have played in my era.

Players have to shoulder some blame, they have woefully under performed. The performance on Saturday was a disgrace so he really had to go.

I think Marco Silva is the obvious one that fans want, Mark Hughes sounds more likely. I am not too bothered really, it cannot be any worse.

8 games to go, 5 away, Chelsea and City still to play at home. Gulp. I hope it's not too late.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: tikay on March 15, 2018, 12:38:47 AM

The merry go round continues, and Mark Hughes, recently sacked by relegation strugglers Stoke, gets the job.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on March 15, 2018, 09:01:03 AM

The merry go round continues, and Mark Hughes, recently sacked by relegation strugglers Stoke, gets the job.

As inspiring as the Pardew and Lambert appointments this season.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on April 08, 2018, 12:27:43 AM
so how do southampton get to 36 points which will be borderline of staying up this year i think


we are away to arsenal who have look on form since the Brighton game
they might have eye on europa league tie but they have a 3 goal cushion
0pts

home to Chelsea we need 3 pts here against a team who have blown hot and cold
0pts if they are on form

away to Leicester another team blowing hot or cold  if we dont get 1 pt here we are likely going down
1pt

home the Bournemouth south coast rivalry from bouthmouth fans anyway saints fans are still obsessed with pompey have to get 3 points here
3pts

everton are showing alot more than the saints just now but hopefull will be on holiday mode as they are safe and not going anywhere near europe
1pt


swansea away could be a 6 pointer showing the odd signs of life though
3pts

man city final game of season what team will turn up will the superstars be given a rest before heading off to world cup can we actually beat man city 2nd XI

0pts

thats what we need to get to get to 36 points will 36 be enough? can we actually get those points from the games i have highlighted
or can we get a shock result or 2?




Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on April 08, 2018, 01:26:13 PM
As hoped arsenal have eye on getting into ECL by winning Europa 7 changes today let's see if we put up a fight


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on April 19, 2018, 09:37:50 PM
so how do southampton get to 36 points which will be borderline of staying up this year i think


we are away to arsenal who have look on form since the Brighton game
they might have eye on europa league tie but they have a 3 goal cushion
0pts

home to Chelsea we need 3 pts here against a team who have blown hot and cold
0pts if they are on form

away to Leicester another team blowing hot or cold  if we dont get 1 pt here we are likely going down
1pt

home the Bournemouth south coast rivalry from bouthmouth fans anyway saints fans are still obsessed with pompey have to get 3 points here
3pts

everton are showing alot more than the saints just now but hopefull will be on holiday mode as they are safe and not going anywhere near europe
1pt


swansea away could be a 6 pointer showing the odd signs of life though
3pts

man city final game of season what team will turn up will the superstars be given a rest before heading off to world cup can we actually beat man city 2nd XI

0pts

thats what we need to get to get to 36 points will 36 be enough? can we actually get those points from the games i have highlighted
or can we get a shock result or 2?





first 3 games of the run in have gone how i expected next 3 are vitally important need at-least 7 points


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on April 28, 2018, 11:46:23 PM
3points vrs bournemouth (check)

now on to everton where we need atleast a point hoping they are in holiday mode


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: arbboy on April 28, 2018, 11:58:53 PM
Please beat Swansea and Stoke still have a chance.  Huddersfield goal difference gets drilled and even if they sneak a point Stoke will stay up on GD.  Thats the plan anyway.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on April 29, 2018, 03:02:46 AM
Please beat Swansea and Stoke still have a chance.  Huddersfield goal difference gets drilled and even if they sneak a point Stoke will stay up on GD.  Thats the plan anyway.

if we dont beat swansea we will be going down so the plan is to beat them


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on April 29, 2018, 11:44:12 AM
The atmosphere yesterday was electric.

That last 15mins was what football is all about. Still buzzing now.

How we have got ourselves in this situation, I really don't know. With the right coach, this is a good side.

Cedric, Bertrand, Romeu, Tadic, Lemina, Austin all good Premier League players and will almost certainly go onto success elsewhere if we get relegated. Fingers crossed we can pull off another great escape.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 05, 2018, 07:23:50 PM
FFS 95th minute


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on May 05, 2018, 08:18:27 PM
Couldn't watch today. Just too tense.

God knows what I'm going to do for the Swansea game.

We deserve to be in amongst it but we have run so bad all season.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 05, 2018, 08:26:49 PM
we have done everything i predicted here  http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=63904.msg2223077#msg2223077

now to get the 3 points on tuesday but will be hard to watch


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on May 05, 2018, 09:32:48 PM
Couldn't watch today. Just too tense.

God knows what I'm going to do for the Swansea game.

We deserve to be in amongst it but we have run so bad all season.

To counter running bad you have by far the best injury record in the league.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on May 05, 2018, 11:06:36 PM
Couldn't watch today. Just too tense.

God knows what I'm going to do for the Swansea game.

We deserve to be in amongst it but we have run so bad all season.

To counter running bad you have by far the best injury record in the league.

Watford punching the ball in the net still sticks in my mind!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on May 07, 2018, 08:50:47 AM
Couldn't watch today. Just too tense.

God knows what I'm going to do for the Swansea game.

We deserve to be in amongst it but we have run so bad all season.

To counter running bad you have by far the best injury record in the league.

Watford punching the ball in the net still sticks in my mind!

Hand of God imo.  Justice for the outrageous time wasting in that game! But would be harsh if that is what sends you down I agree.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 08, 2018, 09:39:26 PM
that last 10 minutes were hard to watch


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DungBeetle on May 08, 2018, 10:11:57 PM
that last 10 minutes were hard to watch

Looked comfortable as a neutral.  Swansea were dreadful!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 08, 2018, 10:24:10 PM
that last 10 minutes were hard to watch

Looked comfortable as a neutral.  Swansea were dreadful!

my heart was racing but i am guessing that was due to watching aberdeen and southampton at same time i didnt feel safe untill final whistle but after last week do you blame me?
got to say though my predictions on how we get to 36 points came out 100% correct thinking of doing one on how we get to 100 points next season and then putting the bet on


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: hhyftrftdr on May 08, 2018, 10:26:17 PM
Swansea would have to beat Stoke 5-0 and you guys lose to City 0-5 to (realistically) go down?

Huge result tonight, home and dry now.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on May 08, 2018, 10:59:54 PM
Amazing result. Adrenaline was pumping. Did a little run round my tiny courtyard garden complete with full fist pumps at final whistle. I was waiting for the big pressure to come but we were actually comfortable. Swansea were abject.

Even with the unlikely goal swing, Huddersfield would still need a point from somewhere which looks unlikely.

I don't really know how we managed to string the last few weeks run together. Hopefully it's the shot in the arm the club needs.

It's a little premature but what do we do with Hughes? I expect him to leave. We gave him a six month contract for a reason with a chunky bonus for keeping us up. Early shout for Julian Nagelsmann.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: arbboy on May 08, 2018, 11:02:06 PM
Congrats on staying up.  Will make Stoke's job of coming back up next season easier.  Enjoy Hughes over a full season. 


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 08, 2018, 11:51:47 PM
Congrats on staying up.  Will make Stoke's job of coming back up next season easier.  Enjoy Hughes over a full season. 

didn't he have a few good seasons with you guys to begin with?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 09, 2018, 02:07:17 PM
LMAO

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-44054454


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 22, 2018, 08:54:20 PM
Stuart Armstrong given permission to talk to the saints deal is 7 million upfront with add ons
although i would long term have preferred Madison Armstrong is ready to go out the box IMHO


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: celtic on June 23, 2018, 12:41:56 AM
Think Chris Sutton's tweet summed it up well.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Teacake on June 23, 2018, 10:42:56 AM
Looks like a good deal for all parties.

He's not the best passer for a CM but will run all day, break lines and score goals. He's a good player who was exceptional in the season before last but he is prone to dips in form and struggled with injuries last season. He's also a clever lad (he studied for a law degree whilst playing for Dundee Utd then us) who won't give you bother. Also has one of the best songs in British football  :)

Good luck to him.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: celtic on June 27, 2018, 11:20:42 AM
Southampton video announcing Armstrong has signed.

That's a catchy tune they have for him already :)


https://twitter.com/_RH67/status/1011663028528537600


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 27, 2018, 03:39:07 PM
Dusan Tadic sold for 15-18 million back to Ajax that's 4 years of service and 5-8 million profit


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: celtic on June 28, 2018, 10:44:27 AM
Dusan Tadic sold for 15-18 million back to Ajax that's 4 years of service and 5-8 million profit

sold for £9.7m according to reports, which represents a loss.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 29, 2018, 04:37:15 PM
15-18 million in other reports


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: celtic on June 29, 2018, 07:43:59 PM
15-18 million in other reports

but not the official ones?

Ive got a mate saying 23-26 million. should i believe that?



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on June 30, 2018, 03:08:51 PM
15-18 million in other reports

but not the official ones?

Ive got a mate saying 23-26 million. should i believe that?


official reports undisclosed


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Rod Paradise on July 01, 2018, 11:41:06 AM
Southampton video announcing Armstrong has signed.

That's a catchy tune they have for him already :)


https://twitter.com/_RH67/status/1011663028528537600

Pirating buggers, that was us at half time in the concourse at Sunderland - I can hear the maniac using the bin as a drum :D

Although fair play to Southampton when questioned they did pay £100 to the Celtic Charity Foundation for song rights :D


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 01, 2018, 06:52:49 PM
Southampton video announcing Armstrong has signed.

That's a catchy tune they have for him already :)


https://twitter.com/_RH67/status/1011663028528537600

Pirating buggers, that was us at half time in the concourse at Sunderland - I can hear the maniac using the bin as a drum :D

Although fair play to Southampton when questioned they did pay £100 to the Celtic Charity Foundation for song rights :D


its all over the saints supporters facebook groups personally i dont like stealing songs like this we need to make up our own
but hey ho


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 10, 2018, 06:54:59 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11432373/angus-gunn-completes-southampton-move-from-man-city

Bit out of leftfield this one, but could be a great move for him. Very talented kid, just unfortunate that he'd be in direct competition with Ederson and there's only 1 winner in that battle.

Be surprised if we don't have either a buy back clause or sell on clause.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: horseplayer on July 10, 2018, 10:40:29 PM
Would bet evens he is in the England squad by the end of this year

Massive massive talent and by a lot of accounts and good kid as well

Great signing be amazed if city don't have a buy back


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 11, 2018, 10:11:24 AM
What a fall from grace for Fraser Forster, 3rd choice keeper now and we are doing everything to get him off the books as he is one of the top earners.

Not sure what went on there. If you were moulding a goalie from clay, you would create Fraser. He has all the right attributes but something mentally must have gone wrong. I hope he moves on and does well elsewhere.

Impressed with Saints getting things sorted early. Attacking central midfielder, winger, centre back, back up goalie all sorted. Potentially a striker to come but expect that is pretty much business done.

I have never really doubted the quality of the squad, just got to get it right tactically...


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 11, 2018, 11:38:54 AM
Loved angus's dad just a pity he hasn't followed him down into the scotland camp. Think Fraser got in a muddle with all the changes around him week in week out different defenders and he never got it back.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Sciss0rhands on July 14, 2018, 10:34:37 PM
Southhampton have such a high player turnover... can’t be good for team cohesion. Any ideas why that is? Is it just money / profit oriented?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 15, 2018, 11:51:53 PM
Southhampton have such a high player turnover... can’t be good for team cohesion. Any ideas why that is? Is it just money / profit oriented?

Good Recruitment and coaching most of the players are moving on to bigger teams fro higher wages and more chance of tropheys


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Sciss0rhands on July 16, 2018, 08:24:51 AM
Southhampton have such a high player turnover... can’t be good for team cohesion. Any ideas why that is? Is it just money / profit oriented?

Good Recruitment and coaching most of the players are moving on to bigger teams fro higher wages and more chance of tropheys


True, their good players are always poached by bigger clubs. They need to recruit worse players haha... or just pay ‘em more


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 16, 2018, 05:44:27 PM
cant pay them more as we cant generate the same sort of money as a top 6 side


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 05, 2018, 11:35:33 AM
It's hard to be brimming with confidence on Saints this year with Mark Hughes in charge. Whilst you can never read too much into pre-season, results have been:-

Schalke 3-3 Saints
Jiangsu Suning 2-3 Saints
Derby 3-0 Saints
Dijon 0-2 Saints
Saints 3-2 Celta Vigo
Saints 0-3 Borussia Monchengladbach

Long gone are the days of Fonte and Van Dijk in defence and they have never been replaced. I can't see how this team is going to avoid shipping goals.

Tadic's replacement is unproven. We missed out on the CAM we wanted although Stuart Armstrong looks OK. Still not convinced where the goals will come from. Would be nice if Austin could stay fit.

Need the younger players to start stepping up - Redmond, JWP, Lemina, Hoedt.

8/1 for relegation.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: arbboy on August 05, 2018, 11:46:30 AM
It's hard to be brimming with confidence on Saints this year with Mark Hughes in charge. Whilst you can never read too much into pre-season, results have been:-

Schalke 3-3 Saints
Jiangsu Suning 2-3 Saints
Derby 3-0 Saints
Dijon 0-2 Saints
Saints 3-2 Celta Vigo
Saints 0-3 Borussia Monchengladbach

Long gone are the days of Fonte and Van Dijk in defence and they have never been replaced. I can't see how this team is going to avoid shipping goals.

Tadic's replacement is unproven. We missed out on the CAM we wanted although Stuart Armstrong looks OK. Still not convinced where the goals will come from. Would be nice if Austin could stay fit.

Need the younger players to start stepping up - Redmond, JWP, Lemina, Hoedt.

8/1 for relegation.

Enjoy watching Hughes' defensive formations!   They are fun to watch.  You do look a big price to go down to me.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 07, 2018, 01:01:50 AM
It's hard to be brimming with confidence on Saints this year with Mark Hughes in charge. Whilst you can never read too much into pre-season, results have been:-

Schalke 3-3 Saints
Jiangsu Suning 2-3 Saints
Derby 3-0 Saints
Dijon 0-2 Saints
Saints 3-2 Celta Vigo
Saints 0-3 Borussia Monchengladbach

Long gone are the days of Fonte and Van Dijk in defence and they have never been replaced. I can't see how this team is going to avoid shipping goals.

Tadic's replacement is unproven. We missed out on the CAM we wanted although Stuart Armstrong looks OK. Still not convinced where the goals will come from. Would be nice if Austin could stay fit.

Need the younger players to start stepping up - Redmond, JWP, Lemina, Hoedt.

8/1 for relegation.

got my £2.31 @1000 for the EPL title and £4 at 60.0 for top 6 might start thinking of laying them off when we win our first 5 games

Come on the Saints


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on September 29, 2018, 10:04:44 PM
45 goals in last 51 league games.

It's also now 30 league games against top half PL clubs without a win.

This Saints squad with Hughes in charge is a 15th-17th place team. Much like Swansea after their initial Premier league berth, this is a side that completely lacks any form of identity. Realistically that has been the case for the last 2 and a half years.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on October 23, 2018, 01:52:44 PM
Pellegrino managed 37 points from 34 games before getting sacked.

Hughes now has 21 points from 21 games.

He is getting nothing from this team and is surely on borrowed time. A terrible appointment in the first place. A huge game for him this weekend against Newcastle.

Given the above stats, it does surprise me that there are still SIX sides that are shorter odds to go down than Saints. We will probably get around 38 points and have to hope that's enough again.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 23, 2018, 04:54:18 PM
Pellegrino managed 37 points from 34 games before getting sacked.

Hughes now has 21 points from 21 games.

He is getting nothing from this team and is surely on borrowed time. A terrible appointment in the first place. A huge game for him this weekend against Newcastle.

Given the above stats, it does surprise me that there are still SIX sides that are shorter odds to go down than Saints. We will probably get around 38 points and have to hope that's enough again.

we were too quick to get rid of Puel IMHO he was building a side might not have been playing the best football but was building for the future. Hughes is reluctant to bring any youth into the squad never mind the team. We need more hunger.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 08, 2018, 11:23:53 AM
Finally Les Read gets the tintack


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on November 12, 2018, 12:56:43 PM
Les Reed has done a magnificent job at Southampton.

He has been pivotal from the club going from League 1 to the Premiership. Let’s not forget that for a good few years, we were touted as the “model” premier league club for others to aspire to.

For so long he got all the big football decisions right. A string of successful managers Adkins, Poch, Koeman that each took us up a level. Recruitment was very good for many years – Mane, Van Dijk, Alderweireld, Wanyama. The youth system continued to churn through players that went for big money. The football on the pitch was exciting and the results were good.

Unfortunately, rather than one thing falling over, it all fell over at one. A string of unsuccessful managers – Puel, Pellegrino, Hughes. Recruitment turned sour – Boufal, Carillo. The youth system dried up almost completely with no players coming close to breaking into the squad, let alone the first team. 

When all this happens at once and you almost get relegated then you have to learn from your mistakes. Unfortunately, 6 months on and things have worsened rather than improved. Les Reed and the senior leadership team has had to take responsibility for that.

His legacy won’t be forgotten though. He joined Saints when our yearly revenue was £14 million. This year we turned over £182 million. Unfortunately, turnover is not something you can cheer about on the terraces.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on November 12, 2018, 01:06:20 PM
A couple of other thoughts on Saints ownership structure.

Saints are now owned by Lander Holdings – a Chinese real estate group.

A fairly in depth interview last week fell under the radar a little as much of the conversation was around Les Reed. One of the interesting points was that the Chinese investors intend to continue to run Southampton in a “self sustaining” manor. Money will never be taken out but it will also not be pumped in. That’s wonderful when you sell a player for £70million every Summer but not quite so good when your squad is very poor with little resale value. You essentially spend some of the TV money every year and try and exist as a mid table side.

Thinking about the other teams in the premier league, there are a not really that many clubs left that are forced to operate like this.

Bournemouth
Brighton
Newcastle
Burnley
Palace
Cardiff
Huddersfield

In the long term, it's tough for this model to take you anywhere bar a bottom half relegation battle. You might get the odd outlier where you generate a shit load of money for a few years but you just can't really compete without significant investment - Everton, West Ham, Wolves etc.

You are starting to see it more and more this season as the gulf widens.

At the moment, Saints have a clear plan for January. They don't intend to spend any money - a big reason being, they just don't have it to spend.   


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on November 12, 2018, 01:11:32 PM
Feeling so jaded with Saints this year.

Not going to games at the moment. Football is awful and, even worse, we just aren't competitive any more.

I used to love the big games against the top teams as always felt like we had a chance. Now, it's just the expectation of being humiliated.

It's hardest to support your team when they are not doing very well. There are times when you wonder whether being in the premier league is really worth it - especially given the above financial restraints of the club. Your season essentially boils down to 20 games where you have to try and scrape 38 points.

The Charlie Austin rant is highlight of the season so far. 


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on December 03, 2018, 10:10:51 AM
Hughes given the boot this morning.

No big shock, writing has been on the wall for a month now.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Karabiner on December 03, 2018, 09:10:58 PM
Will Hasselhoff be bringing Pamela Anderson as his assistant?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 03, 2018, 09:47:29 PM
looks like we are hiring colin firth as our new manager


(http://production-354f.kxcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/26/2018/12/869079482.jpg)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on December 03, 2018, 11:58:13 PM
As lookalikes go, not one of your best.

The football hipster in me is all of a quiver.

- Exotic funny name
- Never heard of him
- Pedigree in Europe
- Top tier Champions League experience
- Experience in relegation battles
- Learnt with Jurgen Klopp and favours the high press HEAVY METAL style

Sign me up. Why this wasn't done in the Summer, I have no idea but thank god we laughed Moyes/Allardyce and the dinosaurs out the building.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on December 05, 2018, 01:09:31 PM
Husenhattl quote

"I think we (Klopp) appreciate a similar philosophy on football – we want to play a high-tempo game, we want our guys to sprint around, press well and these are elements which make the game livelier and varied and get people excited."

Probably getting carried away a bit but this is music to my ears.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on December 07, 2018, 01:20:12 PM
Ralph "Rabbit Hutch" Hasenhüttl is the first Premier League manager whose surname is a place where an animal could live since Frank Burrows' 12-day caretaker stint at West Brom in 2004 (also a rabbit dwelling).


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Longines on December 07, 2018, 01:42:59 PM
Ralph "Rabbit Hutch" Hasenhüttl is the first Premier League manager whose surname is a place where an animal could live since Frank Burrows' 12-day caretaker stint at West Brom in 2004 (also a rabbit dwelling).

Moor(e)  :)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on December 13, 2018, 10:35:02 AM
Southampton have scored 15 goals in 19 games this season in all competitions.

Last night, Dusan Tadic scored twice for Ajax taking his tally to 16 goals in 27 games. 8 in the Champions League taking them into the knockouts and 8 in the league.

What a player.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 13, 2018, 12:10:13 PM
Southampton have scored 15 goals in 19 games this season in all competitions.

Last night, Dusan Tadic scored twice for Ajax taking his tally to 16 goals in 27 games. 8 in the Champions League taking them into the knockouts and 8 in the league.

What a player.

his first season at St Marys i rated him more than Mane. Last season he was disappointing for large parts of it.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on December 13, 2018, 01:49:59 PM
Southampton have scored 15 goals in 19 games this season in all competitions.

Last night, Dusan Tadic scored twice for Ajax taking his tally to 16 goals in 27 games. 8 in the Champions League taking them into the knockouts and 8 in the league.

What a player.

his first season at St Marys i rated him more than Mane. Last season he was disappointing for large parts of it.

Yes, we sold him at the right time, he certainly appeared to be on the down turn and is 30. He has shown his quality this season though.

Our team was essentially build around him for the last few years. The little creativity we ever had came through him.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on December 16, 2018, 10:16:12 PM
Hasenhuttl cancelled all days off earlier this week and has been working them hard with double sessions.

This sums it up nicely from Bertrand.

(https://i.ibb.co/CVgBP6b/Bertrand.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zPps6FX)

Turns out giving a contract to an actual tactical manager pays dividends.

For long periods, it was night and day between this team and the team of the last 12-18 months. Even if we had lost/drawn, every fan would have gone away uplifted. Just amazing to watch us chasing and pressing high and trying to transition with such pace.

If Hasenhuttl can do that in a week then who knows what he is capable of in this league. A brilliant character on the touchline too, very Klopp esque.

We caught Arsenal at the right time today, they were clearly struggling defensively. That being said, we did very well at restricting a top quality attack.

First home win in 8 months and free pints all round from the new boss! What more could you want for Christmas.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: hhyftrftdr on December 17, 2018, 06:15:24 PM
Watched the game yesterday and was impressed with Saints, fully deserving of the victory.

Thought the pressing was sensible and controlled, not just a bunch of players running around like headless chickens. Chances finished off well too.

Really highlights just how poor/limited a manager Hughes is. In theory he should never manage in the PL again but like Pardew, Moyes, Big Sam etc these guys tend to somehow land on their feet with jobs.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on December 18, 2018, 10:36:43 AM
An interesting story came out of the training ground this week.

Hasenhuttl is renowned for his work ethic - 8am starts and evening finishes every day.

One of the first things he did on joining the club was go out to the training pitches and mark them up into zones. Romeu has been quoted as saying the pitches now look like more like an airport runway, they are so covered in different lines.

The idea behind this is that every player operates in certain zones. He has been having 1:1s with the players to talk to them about their roles within each zone, how they transition etc. Ryan Bertrand was impressed as he had a minor back operation last week so hasn't been around the club. He was sent video footage with commentary from training covering his specific zones and what the manager expected from him.

My impression of the managers named above is that they just haven't adapted to the modern world of football. They are "man managers" but, tactically, have been left behind and I think the majority of clubs are starting to recognise that and move off the merry-go-round. 


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: TightEnd on December 30, 2018, 12:29:45 PM
The PL through the eyes of a Southampton supporter?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on December 30, 2018, 02:07:10 PM
just seen the team sheet for today guess we arent that bothered about points or goal different for today's game


must be the youngest back 4 in premier league history


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on December 30, 2018, 11:58:50 PM
Back down to earth with a bang.

West Ham were excellent and fully deserved to beat us. We were a long way off the pace against City and the squad suddenly looks thin. Hojberg getting a 4 match ban is a nightmare as he has been our best player this season.

January /Feb is going to be big. Get Chelsea out of the way then it's:-

Leicester
Everton
Palace
Burnley
Cardiff


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 02, 2019, 10:08:30 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11700/11432373/angus-gunn-completes-southampton-move-from-man-city

Bit out of leftfield this one, but could be a great move for him. Very talented kid, just unfortunate that he'd be in direct competition with Ederson and there's only 1 winner in that battle.

Be surprised if we don't have either a buy back clause or sell on clause.

He now has a great chance of nailing down the number one spot after taking his chance tonight and performing excellently in cup games. What a talent at 22 years old.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 29, 2019, 02:36:31 PM
Saints have £63m of signings out on loan. 3 of those sit in the top 7 club record signings.

The total cost of the entire team against Everton was £68m.

Austin looking likely to follow if we can get someone to stomach his wages.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: pleno1 on January 31, 2019, 07:24:50 AM
So happy for JwP finally getting a run in team from a proper manager. Such a shame how his career has gone in last 2-3 years, should be in the england squad every time.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 31, 2019, 09:14:35 AM
He is certainly benefitting from some proper coaching and seems to have added that bit of extra bite and tenacity. Note his goal last week when he won a 50/50 and held off the midfielder, something he just hasn't been doing for a while.

He suffered under the old guard for being too slow to play on the wing and too weak to play in the middle. Technically, he has always been good enough. He becomes a real asset when he start scoring goals too.

He benefits massively from having the support of Romeu/Hojberg doing the dirty work around him.

Zaha in the flesh last night was something else. How is he still at Palace? A cut above everyone else.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: pleno1 on January 31, 2019, 11:46:35 AM
He is certainly benefitting from some proper coaching and seems to have added that bit of extra bite and tenacity. Note his goal last week when he won a 50/50 and held off the midfielder, something he just hasn't been doing for a while.

He suffered under the old guard for being too slow to play on the wing and too weak to play in the middle. Technically, he has always been good enough. He becomes a real asset when he start scoring goals too.

He benefits massively from having the support of Romeu/Hojberg doing the dirty work around him.

Zaha in the flesh last night was something else. How is he still at Palace? A cut above everyone else.


End product. Was his first goal since September right? I guess teams just double or triple up on him.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 31, 2019, 12:13:31 PM
I think you are giving him a bit too much credit. :-)

60 appearances from 2016-2018. 6 goals, 6 assists. He doesn't get doubled up on much, just hasn't really been offering a consistent threat and gets shunted around a lot. He isn't a winger and this season he is finally getting the opportunity he wants in the middle.

3 goals in last 3 appearances. He was actually shifted to right wing back last night before he scored. We haven't developed a lot of players for a couple of years, partly down to the constant manager changes. He will improve now.

179 premier league appearances and he has only just turned 24. Not sure what his ceiling is.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: pleno1 on January 31, 2019, 12:42:51 PM
I meant Zaha..


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 31, 2019, 01:24:34 PM
Doh, yea we double teamed him and still was a nightmare. Every Palace move was channelled through him. He got mercilessly fouled all night and then blew his top at the end.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 31, 2019, 04:34:45 PM
Zaha in the flesh last night was something else. How is he still at Palace? A cut above everyone else.


he was like a fish out of water when man utd took him think he is better at palace and will struggle in a team he isnt the main man


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on April 02, 2019, 01:21:32 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/z5sQHH7/SAINTSTABLE.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Archer on April 02, 2019, 01:53:16 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/z5sQHH7/SAINTSTABLE.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

Impressive. A result on Friday night would be most welcome as well :)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: hhyftrftdr on April 02, 2019, 02:54:23 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/z5sQHH7/SAINTSTABLE.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

Impressive. A result on Friday night would be most welcome as well :)

Fuck yes.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on May 05, 2019, 12:36:08 PM
Fraser Forster is the highest paid player in Southampton's history on a staggering £70k per week.

Yesterday, he made his first appearance in 494 days and was rubbish.

He has THREE more years left on his contract.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 06, 2019, 11:56:04 PM
Fraser Forster is the highest paid player in Southampton's history on a staggering £70k per week.

Yesterday, he made his first appearance in 494 days and was rubbish.

He has THREE more years left on his contract.

did he not offer to take reduced pay while he was suffering from his mental problems?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on May 08, 2019, 09:57:28 AM
Fraser Forster is the highest paid player in Southampton's history on a staggering £70k per week.

Yesterday, he made his first appearance in 494 days and was rubbish.

He has THREE more years left on his contract.

did he not offer to take reduced pay while he was suffering from his mental problems?

I don't believe so.

Good to see Redmond winning players player of the year and fans player of the year last night. What a huge turnaround he has had in the last 18 months.

A real talent and at 25, still room to improve. Looking forward to what he can deliver under a good coach next season.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on May 15, 2019, 01:41:56 PM
£399 for my season ticket next year. Works out at £21 per game.

Very happy with that.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on May 17, 2019, 08:40:46 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj24js9eXrA

Cost £10.5m.

Domestic double, Ajax's first title win in 5 years and first domestic double in 17 years.

Semi finals of the Champions League.

56 appearances in all comps. 38 goals. 24 assists.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on May 17, 2019, 10:44:04 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj24js9eXrA

Cost £10.5m.

Domestic double, Ajax's first title win in 5 years and first domestic double in 17 years.

Semi finals of the Champions League.

56 appearances in all comps. 38 goals. 24 assists.

first 18 months at saints i preferred him to mane



Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on May 20, 2019, 04:36:21 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/QrHcm5H/Wage-Bill.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qkgn1Zg)


This is another important Summer for Saints. The main reason being that for two years, we have been paying 10th-11th placed wages to a squad that has finished 17th last year and 16th this year. Not sustainable.

Players expected to leave:-

Forster or McCarthy
Cedric
Stephens
Hoedt
Boufal
Clasie
Austin
Carillo

The squad has a real lack of quality from front to back. IMO, priorities would be, in order:-

Attacking midfielder
Centre back
Striker
Holding midfielder
Right back

This is the first Summer where we haven't had a big asset to generate funds for quite some time. Going to be an interesting one.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DropTheHammer on May 20, 2019, 05:18:01 PM
That’s an interesting table - shows United, Chelski and Arsenal are really not getting value for money for the wages they are paying.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 13, 2019, 06:07:16 AM
Liverpool    H
Brighton     A
Manchester United    H
Sheff U       A
Bournemouth    H
Spurs         A
Chelsea      H
Wolves       A
Leicester     H
City             A
Everton       H
Aresenal     A


now thats what i call a fixture list to get a manager the sack


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: DropTheHammer on August 13, 2019, 11:53:18 AM
Almost mocking the manager with alternating ‘HA’ all the way through  :)


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 13, 2019, 12:29:30 PM
Liverpool    H
Brighton     A
Manchester United    H
Sheff U       A
Bournemouth    H
Spurs         A
Chelsea      H
Wolves       A
Leicester     H
City             A
Everton       H
Aresenal     A


now thats what i call a fixture list to get a manager the sack

Even we were bottom at Chstimas, he wouldn't get the sack.

Everyone recognises what a top class coach he is. It's a miracle we actually got him to the club.

He has also now taken complete control of everything (much in the same way that Koeman was given complete free reign at the time). I.e. he chose a new team bus, has had the dressing rooms re-designed etc. Complete belief in his ethos to keep him at the club as long as possible.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on August 13, 2019, 12:36:46 PM
Liverpool    H
Brighton     A
Manchester United    H
Sheff U       A
Bournemouth    H
Spurs         A
Chelsea      H
Wolves       A
Leicester     H
City             A
Everton       H
Aresenal     A


now thats what i call a fixture list to get a manager the sack

Even we were bottom at Chstimas, he wouldn't get the sack.

Everyone recognises what a top class coach he is. It's a miracle we actually got him to the club.

He has also now taken complete control of everything (much in the same way that Koeman was given complete free reign at the time). I.e. he chose a new team bus, has had the dressing rooms re-designed etc. Complete belief in his ethos to keep him at the club as long as possible.


yeah no way he is getting the sack but with a fixture list like that it makes it hard

i am tempted to bet on us to go down and lay it off at the beginning of december


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on September 06, 2019, 08:26:32 PM
For anyone that subscribes to The Athletic, here is an extraordinary interview with ex chairman Rupert Lowe posted yesterday. He is now an MEP for the Brexit party.

https://theathletic.co.uk/1179554/2019/09/06/rupert-lowe-interview-england-has-strong-bloodstock/

An extract:-

He says: “The key to club and to English football is to improve the quality and structure of our coaching. If we get the right people instilling not only the right skills but also the right moral basis into these people, then I think we really have got the ability to win World Cups. Because I am absolutely convinced, having looked at it, that we have the best raw material.”

What do you mean by raw material?

“The best players. Our stock of players. Our people from the north east, Yorkshire; our strong bloodstock. You shouldn’t really call people bloodstock but that’s what you’re talking about because you’re talking about an industry.

“Bloodstock” is a term from breeding race horses, meaning the original ancestors of a bloodline. We get back to this later.

“If you studied football in France, you’d tend to find that a lot of the best French players come from the Camargue. It’s a region of France, you’ve got very tough, mentally strong people, physically strong people. It’s quite similar here.

But don’t France’s best players come from the multicultural Paris suburbs, like Paul Pogba?

“Pogba’s originally not from France, is he? He would be from Africa.”

Pogba, the Manchester United midfielder and France’s World Cup-winning star was born in Lagny-sur-Marne — an eastern suburb of Paris.
 


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 25, 2019, 09:27:03 PM
shambles


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: scotty2hatty on October 25, 2019, 09:29:22 PM
shambles

Generous


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 25, 2019, 09:56:39 PM
i'm an optimist


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: hhyftrftdr on October 25, 2019, 10:13:54 PM
Least your next 2 games are easy.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on October 25, 2019, 10:26:02 PM
Least your next 2 games are easy.

yeah we were resting for the cup


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on October 26, 2019, 01:32:58 AM
New record set for me, first time I have ever left a game before half time.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 02, 2019, 03:49:27 PM
what do you mean there is another 45 minutes to go can we please stop now thank you very much


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 25, 2019, 11:20:26 PM
Liverpool    H
Brighton     A
Manchester United    H
Sheff U       A
Bournemouth    H
Spurs         A
Chelsea      H
Wolves       A
Leicester     H
City             A
Everton       H
Aresenal     A


now thats what i call a fixture list to get a manager the sack

Even we were bottom at Chstimas, he wouldn't get the sack.

Everyone recognises what a top class coach he is. It's a miracle we actually got him to the club.

He has also now taken complete control of everything (much in the same way that Koeman was given complete free reign at the time). I.e. he chose a new team bus, has had the dressing rooms re-designed etc. Complete belief in his ethos to keep him at the club as long as possible.


yeah no way he is getting the sack but with a fixture list like that it makes it hard

i am tempted to bet on us to go down and lay it off at the beginning of december

now the fixture list improves but it a case of which team turns up for the next 6 weeks or so we could be adrift at bottom of league if the Leicester team turn up again
or top half of table if the team that played for the first 95 minutes against Arsenal turn up


can get 10-1 for us to finish top 10 now i am tempted to throw a fiver at it


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 01, 2020, 09:30:40 PM
10-1 into 3-1 for top ten finish now, 4  more wins should see us safe from relegation would like to see us put out a strong team for the cup now


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 02, 2020, 11:14:24 AM
What a brilliant Christmas period that was.

I don't remember seeing a player as confident as Danny Ings is at the moment. His goals are great but his link up play is excellent, the best striker we have had at St Mary's since Lambert & Pelle.

Hassenhuttl is doing wonders and reminds me of Poch a lot. Will surely go on to great things one day.

I think we are still in a relegation battle. The next 4-5 games are really important and the squad still has some big gaps. Feeling far more positive though, the atmosphere at home games is good again and we are a fun team to watch.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 11, 2020, 05:07:33 PM
Went toe to toe with one of the best teams in the league and got the deserved win.

What a transformation.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 11, 2020, 05:53:27 PM
you still think we are in a relegation battle Mark?

i am confident we can make the top 10 and should be putting out a full team for the cup


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on January 12, 2020, 12:06:13 PM
you still think we are in a relegation battle Mark?

i am confident we can make the top 10 and should be putting out a full team for the cup

Yea I didn't see that one coming. We have played very well but that was next level. Pressing them right to the last minute, confidence and quality from front to back. It's not that long ago that I couldn't picture 3 worse teams, things change so quickly.

Leicester playing the 9 goals with commentary in the warm up looks pretty stupid with hindsight.

I got to meet Ralph at a fan forum in the week. What a guy.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on January 12, 2020, 03:31:06 PM
you still think we are in a relegation battle Mark?

i am confident we can make the top 10 and should be putting out a full team for the cup

Yea I didn't see that one coming. We have played very well but that was next level. Pressing them right to the last minute, confidence and quality from front to back. It's not that long ago that I couldn't picture 3 worse teams, things change so quickly.

Leicester playing the 9 goals with commentary in the warm up looks pretty stupid with hindsight.

I got to meet Ralph at a fan forum in the week. What a guy.

after the villa game i posted in a Southampton group

Quote
We're going to win the league,

we're going to win the league

I know you wont believe me

we're going to win the league

Merry christmas everyone


and every match since i have been reposting it with a changed 5th line

i am getting superstitious now i am going to have to keep doing it till we lose

hoping i am still reposting it in august


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 05, 2020, 07:18:02 PM
too late for my Che Adams EPL top scorer bet?


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 21, 2020, 07:56:07 PM
Hojbjerg says he wants to leave the saints to pursue the ECL, has now reportedly agreed personal terms with the European heavyweights Everton

well £25 million for a player with a year left on contract is good business in my books


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on July 21, 2020, 10:28:12 PM
Hojbjerg says he wants to leave the saints to pursue the ECL, has now reportedly agreed personal terms with the European heavyweights Everton

well £25 million for a player with a year left on contract is good business in my books

Yes, a good deal for all parties although my suspicion is that Tottenham will have a say in the deal. They were interested in January and, given his ambition, I suspect that is the club he would prefer to join.

Think this one still has some legs - good for Saints that there are multiple interested parties.

What an amazing season. Guess the priorities for the summer will be getting a Walker-Peters deal done, getting another centre back and a replacement for Hojberg. This team looks well capable of being a solid top half team for the next few years. Lots of great young talent - Obafemi, Adams, Djenepo, Bednarek and some peak age players - Ings, Redmond, JWP, Armstrong etc. Fairly confident in saying Hasenhuttl is the best manager I have seen at Saints in my lifetime. An amazing coach.


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 21, 2020, 10:51:21 PM
Hojbjerg says he wants to leave the saints to pursue the ECL, has now reportedly agreed personal terms with the European heavyweights Everton

well £25 million for a player with a year left on contract is good business in my books

Yes, a good deal for all parties although my suspicion is that Tottenham will have a say in the deal. They were interested in January and, given his ambition, I suspect that is the club he would prefer to join.

Think this one still has some legs - good for Saints that there are multiple interested parties.

What an amazing season. Guess the priorities for the summer will be getting a Walker-Peters deal done, getting another centre back and a replacement for Hojberg. This team looks well capable of being a solid top half team for the next few years. Lots of great young talent - Obafemi, Adams, Djenepo, Bednarek and some peak age players - Ings, Redmond, JWP, Armstrong etc. Fairly confident in saying Hasenhuttl is the best manager I have seen at Saints in my lifetime. An amazing coach.
great turnaround after the Leicester game, this season we were always going to start badly finish well due to the way the fixture went so nearly got my gamble of top half finish past the post

looking forward to next season


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on July 26, 2020, 05:31:01 PM
20 minutes to go of the season come on adams save my top scorer each way bet


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on September 26, 2020, 10:03:41 PM
fecking commentators are doing my nut in. if its not 9-0 there talking about its our ex players, where was Holberg after lockdown when we had our best form last season thats right NoWhere thats where. Sitting in the bench hoping to get a move to spurs. 


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on November 02, 2020, 02:06:40 PM
2 defeats in last 14 prem games. One of the best tactical managers in the division and an exciting young squad. Win on Friday night and we go top of the league!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 06, 2020, 08:14:14 PM
just incase the season goes pearshaped


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 06, 2020, 09:53:14 PM
TOP OF LEAGUE HELLO HELLO top of the league HELLO


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: nirvana on November 07, 2020, 08:12:28 AM
Was watching the like count zoom up shortly after this was posted. Good fun

https://twitter.com/SouthamptonFC/status/1324836694420578304?s=09


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Mark_Porter on November 07, 2020, 11:05:41 AM
Absolutely typical the team finally start winning at home and fans can't go to games :-(

TOP OF THE LEAGUE!


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on November 07, 2020, 11:25:25 AM
Absolutely typical the team finally start winning at home and fans can't go to games :-(

TOP OF THE LEAGUE!

more of our games will now be shown on SKY and BTsport just as they are planning on  scrapping PPV


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on February 02, 2021, 08:56:12 PM
At this rate i would settle for 9-0


Title: Re: Saints and Sinners Southampton FC
Post by: Ironside on February 02, 2021, 10:51:49 PM
At this rate i would settle for 9-0

guess i said i would settle for it so cant complain really what a clusterfeck