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Title: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 19, 2013, 03:28:10 PM
This thread is for recording of my racing thoughts.

Bets are a on 5pt scale of 1pt to 5pts.

The record of bets so far is available for all to see online here :

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aia1Hxq-NDNWdHE4dnc4MjBYbjlJVERnZDdqd29ERUE#gid=0

Thanks to Mere Novice (vince) for all of his help with the spreadsheet

Sunday 19/05/2013

Like 3 today at Ripon.

3.40

Memory Cloth (nap) 3pts win at 4-1 general

result unplaced at 7-2

Purely a handicapping thing this one. It is very rare that a horse who finishes 7/24 in a big handicap like the spring cup at newbury is racing from 5lbs later after one start since. That start was on firm ground at newmarket which the horse patently hated. The horse is now racing from 90 which is now its lowest mark for a year despite appearing to be in good form.

4.10

Aegeus 2pts win at 9/4 general (5-2 still with spreadex fixed odds)

result unplaced at 9-4

I have this slightly shorter in my tissue. Beaten odds on at lingfield on return but can improve from that. All of the pedigree suggests that the horse should improve with racing. This is a beatable field for something progressive.


4.40

Haajes 2pts win at 4-1 (stan james and hills)

result second at 7-2

A real old veteran sprinter not the type i usually look at but seems in great form at present. Won a seller last time which was the first time it's won on fast ground aged 9 so still has ability, the penultimate run in a much better race was better though i think, this is a poor contest, he should get a lovely trip just off the speed in this. The penultimate run has already worked out well (dorback finished 3rd in a class 4 at ascot next time, 6lengths back to third has run well since, 4th just got touched off in a handicap couple of days ago.)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 19, 2013, 03:33:34 PM
Great to see this back horsey.

Your previous thread showed over a thousand pounds profit in quite a short period, and I followed it daily.

In the modern Internet parlance, "subscribed".


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: rfgqqabc on May 19, 2013, 03:41:40 PM
I'm on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 19, 2013, 03:42:12 PM
Spooky timing horsey, was just thinking this morning that we needed a specialist horseracering thread.

Re: Memory Cloth, 4-1 tight enough now? Was 8-1 with Ladbrokes last night.

One of my list horses runs on Tuesday, Arc Light 4.00 Newcastle. Oi oi!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 19, 2013, 03:45:16 PM
Sub to the scribed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 19, 2013, 04:28:42 PM
booo the wrong progressive one.

Clon Brulee on the bridle.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 19, 2013, 04:59:45 PM
Now Richard Whittaker gets one home on the bridle against us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 19, 2013, 07:25:53 PM
struggle to get a worse start tbh

memory cloth was very well backed late and just never fired

Aegaeus appeared to have a problem and was soon pulled up (almost)

haajes ran the race expected just beaten by an unexposed one


will update details every sunday evening re profit and loss


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on May 19, 2013, 07:36:55 PM
Really pleased to see this thread back horsey.

I hope it means that things are looking a little better on the home front.

I'll be following with interest and possibly suggesting one or two although I am mainly a jumps man when it comes to having strong opinions.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 19, 2013, 07:40:32 PM
Really pleased to see this thread back horsey.

I hope it means that things are looking a little better on the home front.

I'll be following with interest and possibly suggesting one or two although I am mainly a jumps man when it comes to having strong opinions.

GL

thanks kara much needed boost that post

thinks are settled but no better i am looking for part time work at present to tide me over

all the best any opinions appreciated


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Skippy on May 19, 2013, 07:52:31 PM
That start was on firm ground at newmarket which the horse patently hated.

Here's a question- how do you tell a horse hates the ground? Can you see it when you watch the race, or do you just base it on them never doing well when it turns up good to soft, or what?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 19, 2013, 08:00:42 PM
That start was on firm ground at newmarket which the horse patently hated.

Here's a question- how do you tell a horse hates the ground? Can you see it when you watch the race, or do you just base it on them never doing well when it turns up good to soft, or what?

For me it is generally just based on previous history when running on that ground.

Though in hindsight today maybe memory cloth either jarred itself up at newmarket or for whatever reason took more out of itself in the spring cup.

You do have to be very careful though, especially over recent years with excessive watering of courses by some clerks a good to soft at one course is not the same as a good to soft elsewhere, just to make life a bit harder :)

If the horse has never faced heavy ground for example then i would always look at the stats of the sire for some clues. As long as the sample size was relevant i would take this into some account though of course each horse is an individual and might not fit the trend.

The larger the sample size for that sire and the more positive or negative the a/e return (actual over expected based on market position) the more i would be confident in my thoughts on the horse handling the ground.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 19, 2013, 08:02:22 PM
Spooky timing horsey, was just thinking this morning that we needed a specialist horseracering thread.

Re: Memory Cloth, 4-1 tight enough now? Was 8-1 with Ladbrokes last night.

One of my list horses runs on Tuesday, Arc Light 4.00 Newcastle. Oi oi!

for the purposes of this thread i am only taking the price if at least two bookmakers are offering the odds.

this will make life a bit tougher but i like a challenge

oi oi the arc!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 19, 2013, 08:57:03 PM
Will contribute to this thread too, shame it wasn't open last week, studied hard for all 3 days at York's Dante meet. I tend to only punt big if I've had a lot of time to really study a card hard, mainly when I go to the races (York, Ripon, Wetherby, Thirsk, sometimes Donny/Ponte) or big race days.

Got a lot of horses in my "nag me alerts" for the summer already, optimistic.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on May 19, 2013, 10:23:51 PM

Good luck with the thread, pleased to see it back.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 20, 2013, 08:00:49 AM
horsey's previous thread is here.....

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=59189.0

Sadly, due to some quite dreadful real life issues he had to quit the thread & move home to look after his Mum, who became very ill.

He has been incredibly helpful & supportive to me, personally, & so I hope this thread, with horsey & a few other experts chipping in, will be a success. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 20, 2013, 01:00:45 PM
thanks tikay

nothing today southwell looks good but very competitive

tommorow looks very promising


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Snowball on May 20, 2013, 11:26:17 PM
Their was an  absoulte filth ew Race tonight at Leicster.
1/9 fav, 10/1 2nd fav
2nd fav was 4/5 for a place (1st 2) and won the Race in a Photo.
Noseda is 0/15 with Horses returning from 100+ Days break


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on May 21, 2013, 12:29:14 AM
Knowing nothing about horses but being bored on betfair, I saw that the 1/10 favourite had not raced for a year so I laid £10 :D.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Biddy 62 on May 21, 2013, 08:20:11 AM
Good luck Horsie.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on May 21, 2013, 09:37:07 AM

Bookies got hammered on Hughes double last night Midnite Angel and Thunder Strike

Returned 2.41 but Hughes told Mat Chapman they would be bitterly disappointed if they got turned over.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 21, 2013, 11:28:34 AM
Good luck Horsie.
ty


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 21, 2013, 11:50:12 AM
Tuesday 21st May

Like two so far today

5.00 Newcastle

ALMOST GEMINI 1PT WIN 4/1 (general) (non runner)

MASON HINDMARSH 2PTS WIN 16-1 (coral or sportingbet)

result non runner and unplaced at 10-1

This is a poor race and although there is no doubt Mason was lucky to win last time (clear leader dropped hands) it still showed the horse was coming into form and has been treated by the handicapper as finishing 3rd (raised a 1lb). Usually improves with racing so should be another good performance from this mark.

Has a low draw and prominent running style at a speed-favoring track as well.

It looks like an over-reaction to it being a lucky winner last time, and therefore it was somehow a 'fluke'.  If it'd finished 2nd beaten 2 lengths it'd be 8/1 here and in my tissue is around 10-1.

Almost Gemini i do not particularly like as an animal so far but was clear fav in my tissue (about 5-2) is unexposed after two narrow wins on the all weather when well backed both times.

Looks very quirky but crucially did battle on well last time in the end. It has a good running style for this race and a good draw.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 21, 2013, 12:14:39 PM

Fingers crossed horsey. I'm on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 21, 2013, 12:19:16 PM
also like

LIL SOPHELLA 3.30 newcastle 20-1 2pts win bet365 skybet and one other

result dead heat 3rd 25-1

A few positives here,

Showed first sign of ability last time in a seller. The formbook states will need to show improvement from that into a handicap. I could not disagree more this is a glorified seller with a bunch of market leaders out of form or running after wins in even worse contests last time.

Ran last time as if this trip will be ideal (tired late on after travelling fine) and also its action suggests the soft ground today will be a help (backed up by the pedigree of indian haven)

Ok the trainer hardly knocks them in for fun but is in some kind of form of late and the horse has a good draw. At 20-1 enough positives in a shocking race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: redsimon on May 21, 2013, 03:07:35 PM
on both (almost gemini nr now I see)...good luck us :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on May 21, 2013, 03:54:11 PM
also like

LIL SOPHELLA 3.30 newcastle 20-1 2pts win bet365 skybet and one other

A few positives here,

Showed first sign of ability last time in a seller. The formbook states will need to show improvement from that into a handicap. I could not disagree more this is a glorified seller with a bunch of market leaders out of form or running after wins in even worse contests last time.

Ran last time as if this trip will be ideal (tired late on after travelling fine) and also its action suggests the soft ground today will be a help (backed up by the pedigree of indian haven)

Ok the trainer hardly knocks them in for fun but is in some kind of form of late and the horse has a good draw. At 20-1 enough positives in a shocking race.

That was a nice touch for us e/w backers

Thanks keep em coming


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 21, 2013, 04:13:04 PM
Good work spotting that trainer Sherlock! N1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 21, 2013, 04:49:31 PM
Spooky timing horsey, was just thinking this morning that we needed a specialist horseracering thread.

Re: Memory Cloth, 4-1 tight enough now? Was 8-1 with Ladbrokes last night.

One of my list horses runs on Tuesday, Arc Light 4.00 Newcastle. Oi oi!

lovely stuff chompy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on May 21, 2013, 05:21:25 PM
Spooky timing horsey, was just thinking this morning that we needed a specialist horseracering thread.

Re: Memory Cloth, 4-1 tight enough now? Was 8-1 with Ladbrokes last night.

One of my list horses runs on Tuesday, Arc Light 4.00 Newcastle. Oi oi!

lovely stuff chompy


Forgot that one fmi

WD


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 21, 2013, 06:06:06 PM
a non runner a dead heat for third and a poor run today



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 01:39:30 PM
Tuesday 22nd May

3.00 Lingfield 2pts win HURAKAN 11/4 general

The favourite is very vulnerable here i think. Its form on turf is pretty awful as is indicative with its pedigree which suggests an all weather horse or soft ground on the turf. I just cant see it liking a firmish surface at lingfield.

Hurakan is by far the most solid of its rivals, down in grade conditions fine and usually starts to peak on 3rd comeback run onwards (which is today)

Double Cee is way out of form, Steely is capable but not running well and Foxhaven is a good old stick but 70 on the turf is a tough mark.


3.30 Lingfield BRAMSHILL LASS 6/1 general 1pt win

not the most genuine of animals but a few positives today.

gets a 3lb pull for being narrowly beaten by the likely favourite kayef at goodwood last time. That is the danger but this is nearly double the price. The fact the selection seems better in blinkers and they are back on today is another small positive.


4.20 Southwell Caledonia Prince 10/1 general 1pt win

a cracking race with a field of proven southwell lovers. Surprised this horse is 10-1 as simple as that is about 7-1 in my tissue and has a better chance than 10-1 in this.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 22, 2013, 01:52:28 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: MajorMajor on May 22, 2013, 02:05:24 PM
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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 02:07:46 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

I think in general it is one of those things in racing that when somebody with one ride wins it is highlighted and when they do not it is not mentioned.

Much like the "outsider of 3 always wins" that berks like Thommo chuckle when the outsider does win failing to mention or realise that backing the outsider of 3 blind will mean you do your money more than pretty much any other strategy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 22, 2013, 02:11:38 PM
Thanks, chaps.

In unrelated news...would anyone like to buy a lucky 15?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bookiebasher on May 22, 2013, 02:24:42 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

I think in general it is one of those things in racing that when somebody with one ride wins it is highlighted and when they do not it is not mentioned.

Much like the "outsider of 3 always wins" that berks like Thommo chuckle when the outsider does win failing to mention or realise that backing the outsider of 3 blind will mean you do your money more than pretty much any other strategy.
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There was an article in the Racing Post a few months back on the outsider of three and the figures suggested you would make a profit , not much , but a profit .

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/It's+official%3A+you+can+make+money+backing+the+outsider+of+three%3B...-a0319173442


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 02:32:08 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

I think in general it is one of those things in racing that when somebody with one ride wins it is highlighted and when they do not it is not mentioned.

Much like the "outsider of 3 always wins" that berks like Thommo chuckle when the outsider does win failing to mention or realise that backing the outsider of 3 blind will mean you do your money more than pretty much any other strategy.
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There was an article in the Racing Post a few months back on the outsider of three and the figures suggested you would make a profit , not much , but a profit .

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/It's+official%3A+you+can+make+money+backing+the+outsider+of+three%3B...-a0319173442

nice link thanks

he seems a bit vague though in that saying his results only include the times there is a "clear outsider"

will check my stats later and see what i get as that just does not seem correct to me


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 22, 2013, 02:39:37 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

I think in general it is one of those things in racing that when somebody with one ride wins it is highlighted and when they do not it is not mentioned.

Much like the "outsider of 3 always wins" that berks like Thommo chuckle when the outsider does win failing to mention or realise that backing the outsider of 3 blind will mean you do your money more than pretty much any other strategy.
[/b]

There was an article in the Racing Post a few months back on the outsider of three and the figures suggested you would make a profit , not much , but a profit .

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/It's+official%3A+you+can+make+money+backing+the+outsider+of+three%3B...-a0319173442

Ignore that Jim, it was probably wroted by Chompy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bookiebasher on May 22, 2013, 02:41:25 PM
Yeah I was surprised by it as well.

Presume he means he didnt include races where one was a clear fav and the other

two were joint second favs.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 22, 2013, 02:41:53 PM
Not me, I much prefer the outsider of four, especially when it's ridden by the pin-up girl. Ho ho.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 02:53:19 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

right tal rather than me guessing here are some stats on the above

best i can do is days when he has one ride, this may mean on days where he's had two they've been at different meetings but won't be many cases of this.  these are also going to be last 5 years for both, so as to avoid times when they weren't established/apprentices:

scudamore: 39/308, -122 to SP
hutchinson: 27/286, -82 to SP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 03:31:52 PM
well done tal!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 22, 2013, 03:32:59 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

right tal rather than me guessing here are some stats on the above

best i can do is days when he has one ride, this may mean on days where he's had two they've been at different meetings but won't be many cases of this.  these are also going to be last 5 years for both, so as to avoid times when they weren't established/apprentices:

scudamore: 39/308, -122 to SP
hutchinson: 27/286, -82 to SP

I see no mitigating circs for Mr Scudamore, but as Chairman of the Wayneo fan club, during this time he has been second string for Alan King for the majority of the time, so his figures will be schewed by having to travel all over the place for singles rides that probably have next to no chance.
If he gets the jig at Kings as stable jock, I expect these figures would look a lot different in the next 5 years.

Would you agree Horsey?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 22, 2013, 03:35:42 PM
well done tal!

Bad logic. Great result.

:D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 03:37:28 PM
What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

right tal rather than me guessing here are some stats on the above

best i can do is days when he has one ride, this may mean on days where he's had two they've been at different meetings but won't be many cases of this.  these are also going to be last 5 years for both, so as to avoid times when they weren't established/apprentices:

scudamore: 39/308, -122 to SP
hutchinson: 27/286, -82 to SP

I see no mitigating circs for Mr Scudamore, but as Chairman of the Wayneo fan club, during this time he has been second string for Alan King for the majority of the time, so his figures will be schewed by having to travel all over the place for singles rides that probably have next to no chance.
If he gets the jig at Kings as stable jock, I expect these figures would look a lot different in the next 5 years.

Would you agree Horsey?

no idea tbh

i am a massive fan of hutchinson as a jockey

the stats are just for when the jockey has one ride at a meeting i would doubt there would be any jockeys who showed a profit under that criteria over a decent sample size


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 22, 2013, 03:43:28 PM
I daren't imagine how enormous your database is, horsey! Amazing stats.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 03:44:13 PM
I daren't imagine how enormous your database is, horsey! Amazing stats.

not mine mate courtesy of proform that one


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 22, 2013, 03:49:22 PM
I daren't imagine how enormous your database is, horsey! Amazing stats.

not mine mate courtesy of proform that one

Thought you were like Bearders for a moment, then; an encyclopaedic resource of all horse racing since hooves first clip-clopped at your fingertips.

I was going to ask you what ROI you get from jockeys wearing mainly orange in low numbers at York on odd-numbered days. Don't think I'll bother now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 22, 2013, 03:49:56 PM
Bramshill Lass should have won, not like Crowley to be caught sleeping.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 04:48:44 PM
first two well backed and bramshill could/should have won

no chance for Caledonia


in shock news betting eddie looks in big trouble. If you have time this report is well worth a read.

http://www.britishhorseracing.presscentre.com/Press-Releases/Result-of-a-Disciplinary-Panel-hearing-Neil-Clement-Eddie-Ahern-Martin-Raymond-and-Paul-Hill-3d8.aspx


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 05:01:20 PM
a couple in the 5.00 lingfield

no idea why kinglami is 5/2 here has a chance but that is to short.

2pts win 9/2 poetic lord c + d ideal no chance last time over to far a trip on the turf

1pt win 14/1  avertis profilic winner to short last time missed break and never got to the front which it needs to

both bog

 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bookiebasher on May 22, 2013, 05:35:47 PM
first two well backed and bramshill could/should have won

no chance for Caledonia


in shock news betting eddie looks in big trouble. If you have time this report is well worth a read.

http://www.britishhorseracing.presscentre.com/Press-Releases/Result-of-a-Disciplinary-Panel-hearing-Neil-Clement-Eddie-Ahern-Martin-Raymond-and-Paul-Hill-3d8.aspx

Im halfway through it and it staggers me that people can be so inept at being a little deceptive.

Thanks for the link ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bookiebasher on May 22, 2013, 06:03:33 PM
I think that this goes on a lot more than people think.

Only the idiots get caught but a professional outfit can get away with laying horses to lose
quite easily.

The idea that you can make money by laying a horse/athlete/sportsman to lose does mean
 the integrety of a lot of sports is undermind by those willing to make serious money cheating.

It's far easier to make money laying something to lose than backing something to win.

Betfair is here to stay so I don't see the situation improving over the years.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 06:40:15 PM
considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock :)

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bookiebasher on May 22, 2013, 06:48:36 PM
considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock :)

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw

Brilliant ..... rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 22, 2013, 06:50:57 PM
considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock :)

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw

Fell for it again.

I am never ever watching another of those, they're just not funny.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 22, 2013, 06:51:57 PM
considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock :)

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw

Fell for it again.

I am never ever watching another of those, they're just not funny.

Agree in the main but the Cheltenham Festival 2013 one is


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 22, 2013, 06:54:15 PM
considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock :)

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw

Fell for it again.

I am never ever watching another of those, they're just not funny.

Agree in the main but the Cheltenham Festival 2013 one is

Ok, you've suckered me in, but unless I laugh at least 3 times, that avatar of yours will be you with me holding the gun.

You've been warned.

Can't find it. Link?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 22, 2013, 06:54:42 PM
With Camel here, woeful effort this one.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 06:56:50 PM
yes it is pretty poor but a rush job

the cheltenham 2013 one is funny even if you dont like them


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 06:57:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9-Zm1me1Es


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bookiebasher on May 22, 2013, 07:01:22 PM
I must be easily pleased. Did laugh at "stop crying Hayley , arselicking wont

get you Ahern's rides "

Lets look at the Cheltenham one then....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 22, 2013, 07:06:22 PM
Cheltenham one is the best, but still wouldn't call it funny.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 22, 2013, 07:08:03 PM
it is in time, the words kind of match up with the speech and it is in parts funny

compared to the rest its genius


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 22, 2013, 07:19:40 PM
It was funnier the day after the festival, the bit about the foxhunters and in time unlike so many others


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 22, 2013, 07:26:27 PM
It was funnier the day after the festival, the bit about the foxhunters and in time unlike so many others

The woman reassuring the crying woman that Tidal Bay had franked the form was the best moment.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 12:50:47 PM
Thursday 23/05/2013

2pts win PORCINI 7/1 (3 firms) 7.45 Salisbury

A tight betting race but this horse is unexposed over this trip on the turf. Hopefully it can show its improved all weather form on the turf tonight. I think it can win or at least go close from this mark.

The ian williams horse is the danger but the very long break is a question mark and i cant see any value in it at current prices. The rest look poorly handicapped or out of form.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 01:32:58 PM
4.20 Goodwood

1pt win each

ASTROMAGICK 14/1 GENERAL

ROCKFELLA 16/1 (3 FIRMS)

back tonight


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 23, 2013, 02:49:00 PM
The 7.45 is very, very trappy horsey and I wish you well. The Racing Post got their best tipster on the case to sort it out...

4/1 the field, seven runners. The shrewdies were on Spice Fair at big prices last night :)

Porcini has never done much on turf and is handicapped the same as on the AW. Newcombe doesn't chuck money away and interesting to see Dunhoy so strong.

REALLY like Gift Of Silence at Yarmouth tomo, list horse nap, oi oi!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2013, 02:59:50 PM
Seaside plunge, near to home, and celebrate with an ice cream and a go in the arcade eh Chompy. Look forward to that.

Was quite keen on Cosimo de Medici, but Horsey got two to beat it, so not so happy now :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2013, 04:42:31 PM
Hmmm. I think he might just have won had he not given away 15 lengths at the start. Sigh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 05:40:14 PM
yes good shout adz

unfourtantley the utter burke coc of the course could not resist watering the track every day and it is now slippy as anything

being a coc (how apt) is one of a few jobs were no matter how bad you are you keep your job


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 05:42:59 PM
The 7.45 is very, very trappy horsey and I wish you well. The Racing Post got their best tipster on the case to sort it out...

4/1 the field, seven runners. The shrewdies were on Spice Fair at big prices last night :)

Porcini has never done much on turf and is handicapped the same as on the AW. Newcombe doesn't chuck money away and interesting to see Dunhoy so strong.

REALLY like Gift Of Silence at Yarmouth tomo, list horse nap, oi oi!

spice fair still looks a lb or two to high to me (bit like myself)

goooooooooooo the list horse


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2013, 05:44:08 PM
Aye

Saw an interview with Seamus Buckley as he went round the other day. Hardly an inspiring individual.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 05:45:56 PM
a case of who you are or were you went to school rather than having an aptitude for the job

no matter what the ground he will without fail always tell ruk it is "good"



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 08:28:13 PM
another poor day

goodwood one ran well enough to get 3rd one slipped early on

Thought Porcini ran well there tbh carson tracked hughes throughout but that one folded quicker than it looked and just did not have the pace at the finish was staying on well again after looking likely to finish last 2 out


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2013, 08:34:40 PM
You're in the ballpark. Just a matter of time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Young_gun on May 23, 2013, 08:52:41 PM
Im going goodwood on Saturday, Stagdoaments do you have any tips? I suck at horse racing bets so any help would be good ty :)

Ran good in past when went, but no method either name or jockey/trainer combo. Be nice to sweat a long shot if you have any


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2013, 08:59:57 PM
I see the amusingly named Getaway Car has probably just won Gerard Butler one of his last chances before I'm sure he gets banned.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 09:27:26 PM
Im going goodwood on Saturday, Stagdoaments do you have any tips? I suck at horse racing bets so any help would be good ty :)

Ran good in past when went, but no method either name or jockey/trainer combo. Be nice to sweat a long shot if you have any
i will have a look friday night and post something then

i specialize in long priced losers

have a good day lovely track to visit just aslong as one of the blazer brigade dont grab hold of you


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on May 23, 2013, 09:37:34 PM
The 7.45 is very, very trappy horsey and I wish you well. The Racing Post got their best tipster on the case to sort it out...

4/1 the field, seven runners. The shrewdies were on Spice Fair at big prices last night :)

Porcini has never done much on turf and is handicapped the same as on the AW. Newcombe doesn't chuck money away and interesting to see Dunhoy so strong.

REALLY like Gift Of Silence at Yarmouth tomo, list horse nap, oi oi!

abit of rain forcast tomorrow, not sure how much it will affect the ground, but if it goes good to soft, or soft will it still suit?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Young_gun on May 23, 2013, 09:53:10 PM
Im going goodwood on Saturday, Stagdoaments do you have any tips? I suck at horse racing bets so any help would be good ty :)

Ran good in past when went, but no method either name or jockey/trainer combo. Be nice to sweat a long shot if you have any
i will have a look friday night and post something then

i specialize in long priced losers

have a good day lovely track to visit just aslong as one of the blazer brigade dont grab hold of you


Thank you i shall check in on phone in morn :) dont get that last part lol the blazer brigade?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 23, 2013, 10:08:01 PM
the old boys in there blazers that guard the entrance with there life

have a good time


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 23, 2013, 10:57:33 PM
The 7.45 is very, very trappy horsey and I wish you well. The Racing Post got their best tipster on the case to sort it out...

4/1 the field, seven runners. The shrewdies were on Spice Fair at big prices last night :)

Porcini has never done much on turf and is handicapped the same as on the AW. Newcombe doesn't chuck money away and interesting to see Dunhoy so strong.

REALLY like Gift Of Silence at Yarmouth tomo, list horse nap, oi oi!

abit of rain forcast tomorrow, not sure how much it will affect the ground, but if it goes good to soft, or soft will it still suit?

Quite a bit of rain forecast, yuh. I don't like betting at Yarmouth at the best of times, let alone when it's soft.

Her half-brother Milton's Keen was fine on soft ground and Cadeaux Genereux's are ok on it too, even though he never ran on it himself. Good to soft wouldn't put me off at all.

If there's a lot of rain it will be oi oi for Olney Lass, Masquerading and One Kool Dude.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on May 24, 2013, 08:30:55 AM
The 7.45 is very, very trappy horsey and I wish you well. The Racing Post got their best tipster on the case to sort it out...

4/1 the field, seven runners. The shrewdies were on Spice Fair at big prices last night :)

Porcini has never done much on turf and is handicapped the same as on the AW. Newcombe doesn't chuck money away and interesting to see Dunhoy so strong.

REALLY like Gift Of Silence at Yarmouth tomo, list horse nap, oi oi!

abit of rain forcast tomorrow, not sure how much it will affect the ground, but if it goes good to soft, or soft will it still suit?

Quite a bit of rain forecast, yuh. I don't like betting at Yarmouth at the best of times, let alone when it's soft.

Her half-brother Milton's Keen was fine on soft ground and Cadeaux Genereux's are ok on it too, even though he never ran on it himself. Good to soft wouldn't put me off at all.

If there's a lot of rain it will be oi oi for Olney Lass, Masquerading and One Kool Dude.

Toooooooo late for me now, piled in last night at 4/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 24, 2013, 11:20:31 AM
Managed to get 9/2 and did it ew for the dead eight, only to find now 7.

Same applied to one I fancied Tariq Too. Backed with 8, now 7........sigh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 24, 2013, 12:42:21 PM
I see dear old Violet is punting Brown Pete vs Chompy.

She knows her onions(for a bird, of c)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 24, 2013, 01:11:16 PM
FRIDAY 24TH MAY

just one bet today

PLATINUM 7.45 MUSS 10-1 1pt win (12-1 with skybet if you can but 10-1 recorded)

I am not a fan of the market leaders here. Northside Prince does not appear to do a lot wrong in its races but has not won since i was a boy, Rocktherunway grabbed the rail at donny and made all i am slightly wary in writing that of as dods seems a different trainer this season in that he is following up wins with exposed horses. Knightly Escapade may win a race for ellison but its attitude is not great under any pressure.

Hopefully it'll improve for firm ground first time, it's got a decent action and good ground breeding, might be able to skip clear off a low weight.  it';s got enough back class and hurdles runs suggest it still has enough ability to win a race on the level.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 24, 2013, 02:06:38 PM
Done my conkers on Knightly Escapade a few times last year, so will be funking against him. He did show a bit more resolution last time after getting checked. Hoping Ellison can wait a race, cos Kirby doing good things since his move. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on May 24, 2013, 02:43:04 PM
think gary Moore's has a good chance in next at goodwood, Shamahan, 4/4 in a maiden losing 10l to fireship and tartiflette on unsuitable ground is decent form in this, decent comeback run and looks a likely sort to improve off just 77, had small e/w bet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on May 24, 2013, 02:54:16 PM
meh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: vegaslover on May 24, 2013, 04:05:56 PM
Managed to get 9/2 and did it ew for the dead eight, only to find now 7.

Same applied to one I fancied Tariq Too. Backed with 8, now 7........sigh

I often use betty place market in such instances


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 24, 2013, 04:14:31 PM
Chris Wall not had a winner before today. Gets off the mark with a 'trick


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 24, 2013, 06:11:49 PM
Managed to get 9/2 and did it ew for the dead eight, only to find now 7.

Same applied to one I fancied Tariq Too. Backed with 8, now 7........sigh


If my horses weren't losing ten lengths at the start each time, I might have a chance....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 24, 2013, 06:56:17 PM
early one for

SATURDAY 25TH MAY

1PT WIN BOGART 25/1 ladbrokes/hills 2.55 york

good track form, good draw races up with pace should get excellent route into race drawn next to confirmed pace setter judge n jury



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 24, 2013, 07:21:43 PM
N1.

First time in a handicap, back at best dist. Mahoosive price. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on May 24, 2013, 08:01:04 PM
big support for platinum, horsey.  Back at 17 on betfair 30 min ago, currently 10.5 just before the off.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 24, 2013, 08:04:46 PM
Bang. There you go Horsey. Matter of time.

N1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on May 24, 2013, 08:05:25 PM
Booom! very nice mate. thanks again, i love your work!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 24, 2013, 08:09:18 PM

Yes!

Well done horsey, great stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maccol on May 24, 2013, 08:19:18 PM
Thanks Horsey.   :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 24, 2013, 08:26:09 PM
thank you all

quite a decent performance that kirby is really proving a bit more than a short term wonder as a trainer




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 24, 2013, 08:28:53 PM
young gun re goodwood

looks a very difficult card to me

4.40 the old boy docofthebay is possibly worth an interest. handicap mark fine course form fine draw very good ground being soft not ideal but id rather have a horse who has ran well here before which he is

will he fancy it? not a clue but this might spark him up and if he does fancy it he should go close at around 20-1?

have a good day


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Junior Senior on May 24, 2013, 08:42:52 PM
Thanks Horsey.   :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 25, 2013, 11:26:55 AM
Very interested in what Mr O'Meara is up to today.

He has put Doc Hay in the Temple Stakes. He was well beaten by Sole Power et al in the Palace House last time. He was however hampered at the start and then had no cover, but ran on steadily to his credit. He was however behind stable mate Elusivity who finished a noteworthy 6th on his first start for stable.

Now today we find Doc Hay in the Group race and Elusivity is back into handicap company(sadly vs Bogart, who he beat comfortably at Newmarket. Gives 4lb for 9 lengths). Seems to me Mr O'Meara has one of these in the wrong race. I fancy with a bit of money for Elusivity, a saver is in order?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: redsimon on May 25, 2013, 12:39:44 PM
Thanks Horsey.   :)up

had it ew but thanks :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 25, 2013, 12:45:23 PM
Nice one horsey, great shout!

Aftertiming obv, but it's the first one in thread I haven't backed :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 25, 2013, 12:49:30 PM
Nice one horsey, great shout!

Aftertiming obv, but it's the first one in thread I haven't backed :D

and me :)

bit behind today might be some more later might not


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 25, 2013, 12:55:13 PM
Nice one horsey, great shout!

Aftertiming obv, but it's the first one in thread I haven't backed :D

Ha, you & me too. I backed all the others & missed that bugger. But no matter, I'm just pleased he has got back on the winning trail.

Because he only backs long-shots, you just have to be patient & accept the losing runs. The occasional 10/1 shot pays for a good few losers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 25, 2013, 02:06:11 PM
sort of day were you could do your brains with views in lots of races

3 bets for me today

14:30 CHESTER MODERNISM   20/1    general 1pt win
This is a weird handicap, if you had not told me the distance i would have guessed this is a 7 furlong or mile affair with at least half of the field not proven over this trip.

The bet does not look to be in form, however watching the last run again here it patently hated the swampy ground fallon took the horse wide throughout and the horse was quite harshly knocked a couple out whilst still battling away.

With so many having stamina doubts at 20-1 a small bet is in order.
15:05 GOODWOOD COUSIN KHEE    5/1   1pt win general

Competitive race but dont think many if any of these are ahead of the handicapper, this horse surely is a raise of 2lbs for a fairly easy win last time is rare and i hope it can take advantage is this.

14:20 YORK ADDRESS UNKNOWN    7/2   2pts win general (hills just gone 4-1)

Improved for the trainer switch last time, i dont really like the favourite despite the form of the stable (its uk form last year is nothing special) and address is more solid to me. I also have a slight doubt the favourite will stay.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 25, 2013, 02:16:13 PM
Nice one horsey, great shout!

Aftertiming obv, but it's the first one in thread I haven't backed :D

Ha, you & me too. I backed all the others & missed that bugger. But no matter, I'm just pleased he has got back on the winning trail.

Because he only backs long-shots, you just have to be patient & accept the losing runs. The occasional 10/1 shot pays for a good few losers.

Yep, only need one to pop up and you're freerolling.

No pressure today horsey, Chester Modernism to hose up and we're all gravy  :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 25, 2013, 02:28:53 PM
Oh dear David Bergin


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 25, 2013, 02:33:08 PM
Roffle! They never learn.

Machin's puns are getting beyond tiresome.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 25, 2013, 03:26:34 PM
Here's one...imo J K Fanning is the best front-running jockey we've ever seen in this country.

Obv names like Cauthen are gonna get thrown around but I'd take Fanning any day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 25, 2013, 03:44:32 PM
LOL. I wish someone would tell him that when I back him.

Total Jonah for me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 25, 2013, 03:48:14 PM
Sole Power my nap today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on May 25, 2013, 03:52:57 PM
Here's one...imo J K Fanning is the best front-running jockey we've ever seen in this country.

Obv names like Cauthen are gonna get thrown around but I'd take Fanning any day.

hmmm is there any jockey that gets more practice?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 25, 2013, 04:01:59 PM
Sole Power my nap today.

5/4 is stingy. Must have taken a lot of money.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 25, 2013, 04:11:47 PM
Lovely to see the Native come back ;bigadz;, but think Swiss Spirit will be the horse that gets the money rest of the season. Lost loads at start.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 25, 2013, 04:12:41 PM
Lovely to see the Native come back ;bigadz;, but think Swiss Spirit will be the horse that gets the money rest of the season. Lost loads at start.

Standard ::)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 25, 2013, 04:16:06 PM
Whats standard?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 25, 2013, 04:19:08 PM
Whats standard?

 ;bigadz;

Especially I posted "sole power is my nap today" lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 25, 2013, 04:21:54 PM
I could have said the second I saw it was your nap, I laid it for everything in betfair.......but I didn't :kiss:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 25, 2013, 04:25:31 PM
I could have said the second I saw it was your nap, I laid it for everything in betfair.......but I didn't :kiss:

Bless...

Somehow managed to stay ahead today. Might need some tips from you on the chariot racing in late June :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 25, 2013, 06:32:37 PM
poor day

no excuses the koooookash thing received a wide all the way ride so i will be keeping it in mind despite finishing last today


Sunday 25th May

Hanky Panky 3.55 curragh (1000 guineas) 20-1 general 1pt win

Rare i have a bet in a classic but i like this filly.

Seemed to not improve but show a much better attitude last time in the hood and with slightly better ground. Having watched its first few starts she hated the heavy ground and was not going through it at all. Tommorow should be ideal on that score she has a nice us pedigree and it all screams good or even firm ground. The ground will be nearer firm tommorow. The booking of Ryan Moore is of some interest as is the fact ladbrokes have been constantly ducking her the last few days (14-1 there)

Nothing stands out in this to me and i am hoping some of the fillies with better form react badly to the firmer ground they have not faced.

A full review tommorow evening of the first week


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Junior Senior on May 25, 2013, 09:35:25 PM
Best price 14/1 now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Young_gun on May 26, 2013, 10:27:57 AM
Hey Horsey, Thanks for the tip was a close one came 2nd.

Overall i ended up £100 as i won 3/7 races, mainly luck no skill but hey ho cant complain. Great day out, nice place and plenty of talent about  ;yippee;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 26, 2013, 01:32:09 PM
Hey Horsey, Thanks for the tip was a close one came 2nd.

Overall i ended up £100 as i won 3/7 races, mainly luck no skill but hey ho cant complain. Great day out, nice place and plenty of talent about  ;yippee;

well done mate seemed plenty of late money for the old rogue

glad you had a good day mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 26, 2013, 02:58:58 PM
additional bet for today

was not sure the ground would be soft in france today but it looks like it is and that is good news

les beaufs 3.10 longchamp 4-1 (3 firms) 2pts win

this horse is a different beast on soft ground should be able to grind these into submission.

On this ground is a 5/2 shot for me




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 26, 2013, 03:18:22 PM
Fingers crossed you can end the week with another winner.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ForthThistle on May 26, 2013, 03:23:43 PM
On.

GL Horsey.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 26, 2013, 09:52:00 PM
3.35 Leicester. Reset City

Just been moved to Johnston. Ran 5 days ago and came second. Roger wouldn't let any of his horses run again that soon unless the Trainer had given him more than just a bit of encouragement to do so. Its a maiden after 16 goes, but has hit the woodwork often enough to think its genuine, but based on this I think a decent ew bet is the sensible option if you play.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 26, 2013, 09:58:16 PM
I remember youuuuuuuu... On obv :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 26, 2013, 10:25:26 PM
will update soon apologies not today

working on a spreadsheet which will be view able to all make life easier


(thanks to vince aka merenovice for his kind help with this)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 27, 2013, 03:34:28 AM
I see Noel Chance has given up the ghost at last and packed it in.

I would love to know what this guy did to upset the establishment. Won two Gold Cup and a Tingle Creek, yet struggled for owners for years. I have spoken to him a couple of time over the years. Nothing in depth, but always seemed a really nice fella, and approachable. He can obviously train too.

Sad when you see some people have fortunes thrown at them and they do nothing significant, and here is a real horseman, unable to get his rewards.

Sad day


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 27, 2013, 04:25:31 AM
Ruby left Nicholls.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 27, 2013, 12:53:35 PM
Monday 27th May

4 bets

2.50 Redcar 1pt win Halfwaytocootehill 13-2 (2 firms)

a lovely bank holiday maiden handicap, i do not like the bell horse which looks like being favourite looks devoid of a trip to me. The selection ran well last time retains the tongue tie and has just as good as form with potentially more to come.

5.05 Redcar 1pt win Summerlea 16-1 general (18-1 with sportingbet if you can)

The market leaders are the usually suspects for the class 6 northern handicaps. Another patrick holmes trained animal (gulp) but they are still running above market expectation. Ran well under a very inexperienced rider last time after a long break on that cant beat the second favourite here but the jockey change bridges that gap a bit more for me. On back form is well handicapped to go close and this is by far the weaker division of this.

5.00 Windsor 1pt win Al Emirati 14-1 general (again sbet 16-1 if you can)

This is purely a stats bet, the sire is good on turf and awful on the all weather. That goes a fair way to explaining the run on first start for Botti last time, take that away and i feel you can then the horse would be around 8/10-1. Tough little race but overpriced if the last run was as i hope it was.


5.30 Windsor 2pts win Break Rank 13-2 (two firms)

Circled the whole field last time on british debut and was drawn 13 at chester. Covered a lot more ground than most that day and tired late after the massive middle effort. I am surprised and happy dropped a 1lb for that run which is very fair. Has potential to be better handicapped than this, a few dangers but i dont feel they have a few lbs in hand like this one could.

good luck today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 27, 2013, 01:09:46 PM
first post updated with link to spreadsheet to track everything

big thanks to vince aka mere novice for his help, patience and basically doing it all for me :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: MereNovice on May 27, 2013, 01:44:25 PM
first post updated with link to spreadsheet to track everything

big thanks to vince aka mere novice for his help, patience and basically doing it all for me :)

You're very welcome.
Good luck with the thread.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on May 27, 2013, 04:00:17 PM
3.35 Leicester. Reset City

Just been moved to Johnston. Ran 5 days ago and came second. Roger wouldn't let any of his horses run again that soon unless the Trainer had given him more than just a bit of encouragement to do so. Its a maiden after 16 goes, but has hit the woodwork often enough to think its genuine, but based on this I think a decent ew bet is the sensible option if you play.

shocking ride from norton - no idea why johnston uses him - horse isnt a front runner but he tries to get to the front but can't get there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 27, 2013, 04:06:24 PM
Yes, not had call yet, but stuck in no mans land like that, rarely does the job. Stayed on again once swallowed by pack, which is most annoying.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 27, 2013, 06:58:31 PM
as spreadsheet shows hardly flying along at present

the % price column is the difference between price taken and sp

from 23 bets 5 have returned the same price 3 have drifted and 15 have shortened (some quite a bit)

i have been happy with most of the bets made so far


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 28, 2013, 03:11:57 PM
3.10 Redcar Hussar Ballad 1pt win 14-1 general

7.10 Yarmouth Toga Tiger 2pts win 11-1 general




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 28, 2013, 07:16:14 PM
toga tiger a non runner (ground even though its won3  times on it!)

subbed in nimiety for 1pt win at 7-1 (2 firms) in same race

can improve more possibly was not fit last time dam liked fast ground



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 28, 2013, 08:43:16 PM
8.40 Yarmouth

1pt win Autumnus 8/1 general

1pt win Global Recovery 20/1 general

both qualify for my system in class 6 races of having never run in the bottom grade before



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 29, 2013, 04:41:22 PM
Nottingham 5.15 Bold Duke 2pts win 7/2 general (4-1 about)

down in class been running fine this season likes the track the more rain the better and appears to be a lot think it can win this comfortably.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on May 29, 2013, 04:49:35 PM
Nottingham 5.15 Bold Duke 2pts win 7/2 general (4-1 about)

down in class been running fine this season likes the track the more rain the better and appears to be a lot think it can win this comfortably.



Just had a quick look at race - like you're thinking and on, 4/1 with Sid James.  Going def changing hence we back Moonstone earlier when no plans to.  Gl us


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on May 29, 2013, 05:37:30 PM
Nottingham 5.15 Bold Duke 2pts win 7/2 general (4-1 about)

down in class been running fine this season likes the track the more rain the better and appears to be a lot think it can win this comfortably.



Just had a quick look at race - like you're thinking and on, 4/1 with Sid James.  Going def changing hence we back Moonstone earlier when no plans to.  Gl us

ul, ran well and close finish


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 29, 2013, 08:05:24 PM
two more tonight

7.55 Kempton English summer 1pt win 7-1

8.55 Kempton Gladstone 1pt win 9-2



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 29, 2013, 08:20:15 PM
Leaving some of these a bit late Horsey. Even a lurker like me missed that one.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on May 29, 2013, 08:47:15 PM
Leaving some of these a bit late Horsey. Even a lurker like me missed that one.

I known a few leave them later.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 29, 2013, 08:55:20 PM
Leaving some of these a bit late Horsey. Even a lurker like me missed that one.

I known a few leave them later.

(http://www.personal.psu.edu/swf5158/blogs/aksm/Applause.gif)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 29, 2013, 08:57:09 PM
KarabinerSocksOneOutOfThePark.gif


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 29, 2013, 09:09:54 PM
Leaving some of these a bit late Horsey. Even a lurker like me missed that one.

I known a few leave them later.


My Dad has a struggle letting the same joke go too.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on May 29, 2013, 09:15:47 PM
That Gladstone looks like a right rogue.

I've not set eyes upon BigAdz yet ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 29, 2013, 09:20:43 PM
That Gladstone looks like a right rogue.

I've not set eyes upon BigAdz yet ;)

Need a change of luck soon.

I'm sure I will be able to tell you when it happens...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 29, 2013, 09:22:08 PM
That Gladstone looks like a right rogue.

I've not set eyes upon BigAdz yet ;)

Need a change of luck soon.

I'm sure I will be able to tell you when immediately after it happens...

FYP

 ;bigadz;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 29, 2013, 09:23:47 PM
errr, that WAS the joke Tal....note to self, put a smiley face or lol after so Tal understands ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 29, 2013, 09:33:28 PM
errr, that WAS the joke Tal....note to self, put a smiley face or lol after so Tal understands ;)

Forever indebted.

Slow and loud, please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: MereNovice on May 29, 2013, 10:02:45 PM
Leaving some of these a bit late Horsey. Even a lurker like me missed that one.

I known a few leave them later.


My Dad has a struggle letting the same joke go too.....

Is it a genetic condition?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 29, 2013, 10:08:00 PM
Ah, Mr Mere pops up to chuck in another dig.

Welcome Sir


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 29, 2013, 10:10:04 PM
Blimey, you boys are on form tonight, you are cracking me up here. Pack it in, I've had a shocker of a day, hospital passes galore, and I planned to be proper miserable tonight.

Sorry I missed all the bets today, been one of them days. Woud we have won 'owt?

Will catch up with everything in the morning.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 29, 2013, 10:11:53 PM
Please Mr Tikay.

The usual bullies are out again, having a go, and all I was trying to do was help.

Make them go away


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 29, 2013, 10:24:03 PM
Please Mr Tikay.

The usual bullies are out again, having a go, and all I was trying to do was help.

Make them go away

Can't help, just realised, I am on the wrong bloody thread. Got no authorita here, me.

Carry on, ignore me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 29, 2013, 11:21:15 PM
hahahah brilliant Ralph


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 29, 2013, 11:24:14 PM
Give Tikay a nudge. Think he's fallen asleep ITT...

 ;sleep;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2013, 09:27:03 AM
Have been sent this blog from a friend whenever IM has a runner. The blogger, Terry Norman, is race planner for the stable Info has been pretty good, and he seems v confident. FYI

Wednesday, 29 May 2013
Shamaal Nibras at Sandown .........................................................
Shamaal Nibras - Sandown, Thursday

Normally when I look at a race, a bit like when you turn over your exam paper, you scan the field and panic over whom you don't think you can beat. It's not the case here.

I think Shamaal Nibras will win. The fact he is 10-1 is the only surprise. The horse hasn't been in the yard for long but there is much in his favour. A drop of 2lbs, from a promising run at Goodwood (fro an awful draw), enables him to run in a 0-95 for the first time in a while, he acts on the ground and the step up again to a 1m is definitely in his favour.

Shamaal Nibras is a lovely big horse so his stride will be used more tonight than has often been the case with him in the past. There will be plenty of pace in the race with Spa's Dancer, the market leader, the worst drawn in 13, unless they come across to the stands rails.

Plenty of horses in this contest want further and the same number wouldn't want any more rain. I love this horse and his attitude. He really needs to win to cement his place in the Hunt Cup (he is probably too well handicapped now), a race that he would have a chance in.
Posted by terry norman at 18:18 No comments: 

Price is dropping by the minute


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2013, 09:55:14 AM
Also fancy a real ew Banzai at Hamilton later. Potentiale 4.40.

It's a 9 yr old that has just moved stables(I know, I know) but I have have been watching this horse for a while, and the change to this uwardly mobile trainer maybe just what he needs in his twilight years.

He has an over 50% strike rate of reaching the frame, and always seems to run well after a long break, off much higher ratings to boot. Normally travels very well too, so probable chance to trade, if you feel inclined.

Concerns are the obvious move, and the lady jock, but the standout 16s with Spoilsports more than compansates in a very weak looking race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on May 30, 2013, 10:19:57 AM
Have been sent this blog from a friend whenever IM has a runner. The blogger, Terry Norman, is race planner for the stable Info has been pretty good, and he seems v confident. FYI

Wednesday, 29 May 2013
Shamaal Nibras at Sandown .........................................................
Shamaal Nibras - Sandown, Thursday

Normally when I look at a race, a bit like when you turn over your exam paper, you scan the field and panic over whom you don't think you can beat. It's not the case here.

I think Shamaal Nibras will win. The fact he is 10-1 is the only surprise. The horse hasn't been in the yard for long but there is much in his favour. A drop of 2lbs, from a promising run at Goodwood (fro an awful draw), enables him to run in a 0-95 for the first time in a while, he acts on the ground and the step up again to a 1m is definitely in his favour.

Shamaal Nibras is a lovely big horse so his stride will be used more tonight than has often been the case with him in the past. There will be plenty of pace in the race with Spa's Dancer, the market leader, the worst drawn in 13, unless they come across to the stands rails.

Plenty of horses in this contest want further and the same number wouldn't want any more rain. I love this horse and his attitude. He really needs to win to cement his place in the Hunt Cup (he is probably too well handicapped now), a race that he would have a chance in.
Posted by terry norman at 18:18 No comments: 

Price is dropping by the minute

Thanks

around 4/1 now!.......had a little bit on the F/C with Swing Alone running on for second .


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 30, 2013, 02:35:56 PM
Does anyone have a view on Candleford in 8.10 Wetherby - looks a big price to me. Decent e/w bet, what am I missing ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2013, 05:01:30 PM
Also fancy a real ew Banzai at Hamilton later. Potentiale 4.40.

It's a 9 yr old that has just moved stables(I know, I know) but I have have been watching this horse for a while, and the change to this uwardly mobile trainer maybe just what he needs in his twilight years.

He has an over 50% strike rate of reaching the frame, and always seems to run well after a long break, off much higher ratings to boot. Normally travels very well too, so probable chance to trade, if you feel inclined.

Concerns are the obvious move, and the lady jock, but the standout 16s with Spoilsports more than compansates in a very weak looking race.


Nice profit, but may have scooped the lot if we didn't have John Wayne's daughter on it......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on May 30, 2013, 05:10:50 PM
Cheers Adz, had abit on that :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 30, 2013, 05:11:25 PM
Nice one, I obv got caught up next door and forgot  ::)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2013, 08:32:24 PM
Does anyone have a view on Candleford in 8.10 Wetherby - looks a big price to me. Decent e/w bet, what am I missing ?


Not missing a thing mate. Strange race, but right result. VWP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 30, 2013, 08:33:59 PM
yeah a few heart stopping moments in that race,  went off 9/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2013, 09:14:26 PM
Another crossbar. Difference, again the jocks, ex champ vs an apprentice(albeit a good one).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on May 30, 2013, 09:22:14 PM
Nice pick simonatur, great result Unlucky Adz, you know what they say.....keep knocking on the door and eventually it'l open! In other words, keep them coming so i can keep having a more informed punt that my lucky pin.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 30, 2013, 10:12:53 PM
Does anyone have a view on Candleford in 8.10 Wetherby - looks a big price to me. Decent e/w bet, what am I missing ?

very well done mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 30, 2013, 10:14:25 PM
Also fancy a real ew Banzai at Hamilton later. Potentiale 4.40.

It's a 9 yr old that has just moved stables(I know, I know) but I have have been watching this horse for a while, and the change to this uwardly mobile trainer maybe just what he needs in his twilight years.

He has an over 50% strike rate of reaching the frame, and always seems to run well after a long break, off much higher ratings to boot. Normally travels very well too, so probable chance to trade, if you feel inclined.

Concerns are the obvious move, and the lady jock, but the standout 16s with Spoilsports more than compansates in a very weak looking race.


Nice profit, but may have scooped the lot if we didn't have John Wayne's daughter on it......

always love a john hills leaver :)

the trainer is decent but his owner and pretty much only backer is absolutely obsessed with lady jockeys, unfourtantley he is also obsessed with booking the not very good ones a lot



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2013, 10:15:49 PM
Cant believe I am gonna suggest two nine year olds in one day, but I am!

Vainglory 3.20 Epsom.

Ran twice at Epsom in this race, Investec Mile, being placed both times, off higher marks. Form on the ground.

Normally as its owned by the trainer, he lets the apprentices ride it, but tomorrow he has put Lane up. Another good sign.

Ew the safe play at BOG 12s generally


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 30, 2013, 10:40:05 PM
Taking the lay side of a 12/1 is a bit meh but Vainglory is a non-winner for me these days, quite happy to follow the others round. Think I'd sooner back him for a place on the machine if anything.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2013, 10:53:43 PM
You're probably right Chompy.
 
It didn't look off one bit last time under Laura Pike, who I think was having her first ride of the year, so suspect it is primed for this bearing in mind it's record in the race.

Hoping it's a safe conveyance for the ew, but understand the reticence


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 30, 2013, 10:55:37 PM
good point on pike who i am pretty sure semi retired in the winter put a few lbs on (relative obviously) had a change of heart and has been on a big fitness thing to get back to racing weight

i actually think the horse has a good attitude just been so used to being used as an apprentice ride for simcock just lost that will to win by being given to much to do so often.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 30, 2013, 11:24:19 PM
Shame that Betfair don't have a market so I can lock it in http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/wolverhampton-wanderers/10090090/Kenny-Jackett-is-expected-to-be-appointed-as-the-new-Wolves-manager.html


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 31, 2013, 01:59:32 PM
Friday 31st May

2PTS WIN DRUMMOND 6-1 general

Bath 7,25


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 31, 2013, 03:39:14 PM
Cant believe I am gonna suggest two nine year olds in one day, but I am!

Vainglory 3.20 Epsom.

Ran twice at Epsom in this race, Investec Mile, being placed both times, off higher marks. Form on the ground.

Normally as its owned by the trainer, he lets the apprentices ride it, but tomorrow he has put Lane up. Another good sign.

Ew the safe play at BOG 12s generally

superb stuff

well done adz very well done


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2013, 03:47:00 PM
Excellento!

Hopefully that was just the aperitif for Chompy's tip.

Then we can all go off to Bath!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 31, 2013, 03:51:27 PM
Excellento!

Hopefully that was just the aperitif for Chompy's tip.

Then we can all go off to Bath!

Well played m8 ;hattip;

So caught up in the manager markets I missed it...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 31, 2013, 03:59:55 PM

Yikes, well done Adzy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 31, 2013, 04:48:59 PM
Well done Adz, hope you had a little tickle yourself on Talent (sounds good don't it)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 31, 2013, 05:05:09 PM
well done Adz, you certainly showed Chompy who is boss


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2013, 05:06:26 PM
Certainly did mate. I tend to put question marks after my selections as deference to the Elders. My money is down already, so I can't get talked out of it ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2013, 05:07:38 PM
well done Adz, you certainly showed Chompy who is boss

Not really.

Couple of lucky arrows.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on May 31, 2013, 05:16:50 PM
Cant believe I am gonna suggest two nine year olds in one day, but I am!

Vainglory 3.20 Epsom.

Ran twice at Epsom in this race, Investec Mile, being placed both times, off higher marks. Form on the ground.

Normally as its owned by the trainer, he lets the apprentices ride it, but tomorrow he has put Lane up. Another good sign.

Ew the safe play at BOG 12s generally

superb stuff

well done adz very well done



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 31, 2013, 05:19:19 PM
well done Adz, you certainly showed Chompy who is boss

Certainly did mate.

lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 31, 2013, 05:30:35 PM
well done Adz, you certainly showed Chompy who is boss

Certainly did mate.

lol

:D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2013, 05:40:13 PM
LOL, I can get in enough trouble on my own....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 31, 2013, 06:17:27 PM
well done Adz, you certainly showed Chompy who is boss

Post of the week. Not even close.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2013, 06:23:40 PM
well done Adz, you certainly showed Chompy who is boss

Post of the week. Not even close.


Timing has set me up there, I was answering the question about backing Talent. Oh my.... ;marks;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 31, 2013, 07:54:07 PM
lucky that was withdrawn would not have beaten that


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 31, 2013, 08:00:48 PM
i am puzzled as to why THANE OF CAWDOR is so big in the 8.30 BATH

2pts win 9-1 general (10-1 and 11-1 about)

slowly improved for this stable on the all weather, see no reason why the turf is a negative



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 31, 2013, 09:33:23 PM
i am puzzled as to why THANE OF CAWDOR is so big in the 8.30 BATH

2pts win 9-1 general (10-1 and 11-1 about)

slowly improved for this stable on the all weather, see no reason why the turf is a negative



Thane of Cawdor...that shalt be king hereafter


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2013, 09:40:01 PM
Love trying to solve the Dash at Epsom each year.

This year I really like Ajjaadd 3.15 @15-1 will hill ew

Course and distance form and seems to be on the improve.

Last time it won from a bad draw after settling nicely, early on. Willie Twister obviously knew he had loads under him as he sat still for a bit too long and the leaders almost got away, but he quickened nicely. The way he settled I think a stronger run race, which he is likely to get tomorrow, will only help. Good middle draw, is a positive.

Willie Twister is replaced by another decent apprentice in Kieron O Neill, so not ideal, but still happy.

If I'm on the right lines, I also like Right Step in the 4.50. A course winner, with a trainer and jockey in form, and almost a stone lower than when he last won here. 11s generally.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 01, 2013, 02:43:55 PM
just a small bet in the dash for me today

1pt win JIROFT 33-1 few firms

no idea why this is the almost complete rag of the field. All of the pundits have been telling everybody all morning how you need to be drawn high, the last two years in handicaps on this course that is not the case at all. The horse is unknown but with top sprint connections and from what i can find on youtube from its italian form has plenty of pace.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 01, 2013, 02:47:18 PM
High numbers haven't been best at Epsom since the 90s.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 01, 2013, 02:54:56 PM
has not stopped the tired old stuff today from the usual suspects

most of the pace looks high but i cant have this being a very good renewal with captain dunne nearly favourite



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 01, 2013, 03:38:12 PM
Moderate baulk as he made his move, but never looked as happy early doors as he did last time.

Cant win em all.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 01, 2013, 03:40:54 PM
happy with that

considering it went off 120 sp on betfair

the first two look group animals


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kpnuts on June 01, 2013, 03:55:40 PM
A few firms paid 5 places. Nice e/w punt for some!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 01, 2013, 03:57:30 PM
A few firms paid 5 places. Nice e/w punt for some!

well done


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on June 01, 2013, 08:47:42 PM
High numbers haven't been best at Epsom since the 90s.

hmmm last ten years shows still a slight advantage

Low       12   155   7.7%   21.9%   0.94   0.94   £-19.00   -12.3%
Middle   12   172   7.0%   23.3%   0.85   0.75   £-20.00   -11.6%
High      18   182   9.9%   30.2%   1.20   0.86   £-1.25   -0.7%


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 02, 2013, 12:50:40 PM
after two 9 year old this week, now gonna suggest an interest in a horse beat a total of 125 lengths in his first 3 outings.

The Potting Shed 5.15 Southwell, looks not to have been put into any of his races so far, but quiet rides have caught my eye. Seems a stiffish mark to start with, but as a gelding out of Presenting should relish the step up to 3 miles.

Could be anything, goes the hackneyed phrase.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 02, 2013, 04:12:30 PM
1pt win Dance Moves 10-1 4.00 Chantilly (France)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 03, 2013, 09:36:03 AM
Hi Horsey,  Question for you if you have a chance. Looking at 16.15 Leics today it appears Sofias Number One is 13/2 due to not acting on turf.  Would you rather be a backer or layer at 13/2 ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 03, 2013, 09:54:16 AM
Hi Horsey,  Question for you if you have a chance. Looking at 16.15 Leics today it appears Sofias Number One is 13/2 due to not acting on turf.  Would you rather be a backer or layer at 13/2 ?

at 13-2 just a backer i think but not by a great deal

i actually think the horse might drift some more, did last time at southwell despite the obvious form there very unsexy yard but he does well with this type.

like you say the turf is a big worry has to be.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 03, 2013, 10:00:04 AM
thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 03, 2013, 10:55:07 AM
Had a couple of small bets today:

Wiindsor   19.00   Victrix Ludorum 7/1 win
Chepstow 17.35   April Ciel           9/1 win


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 04, 2013, 10:28:03 AM
Had a couple of small bets today:

Wiindsor   19.00   Victrix Ludorum 7/1 win
Chepstow 17.35   April Ciel           9/1 win

Nice, 2 out of 2 beaten into 2nd by a neck. Don't tell BadBeat but I greened out some profit on April Ciel it went off at 7/2.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on June 04, 2013, 10:30:40 AM
Had a couple of small bets today:

Wiindsor   19.00   Victrix Ludorum 7/1 win
Chepstow 17.35   April Ciel           9/1 win

Nice, 2 out of 2 beaten into 2nd by a neck. Don't tell BadBeat but I greened out some profit on April Ciel it went off at 7/2.

As long as you pretend it was because you thought 7/2 was a touch too short, he won't mind ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 04, 2013, 09:17:57 PM
been given the chance to do something for a week elsewhere will return to this thread all being well this time next week

happy punting all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 04, 2013, 09:33:55 PM
Good luck with it m8, and see you next week hopefully  :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 04, 2013, 09:52:40 PM
Good luck with it m8, and see you next week hopefully  :)up

ty mate appreciate it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on June 05, 2013, 01:56:32 PM


Not intending to spam my colleagues at Oddschecker - we share offices - but their racing tips seem to have improved of late, & they hit the jackpot yesterday, two tips, two winners, 16/1 & 8/1!

Racing Tips - 04/06/2013

Today looks mainly standard weekday fare with a few classier races at Ripon.

My first bet goes at Ripon in the 3.30 and is Suits Me at 16/1. Now this horse is nearly older than me but I feel has been underestimated by the early market today. It is a highly competitive race with plenty of in-form horses, but Ted Barron's charge returns on a handicap mark of 87 which is his lowest for nearly two years. More importantly the horse showed most of his old ability last season, running well around the 90 mark in even better races than this.

The horse has never had a long break before in its career so may benefit from the 235 day break today, the trainer has a better record first time out after a long break than most and the horse has plenty of form at Ripon throughout its career. The field looks to have plenty of horses who like to lead or race handily which is not ideal but a horse up with the pace is usually favoured at Ripon.
1pt win

The last race at Lingfield on the polytrack catches my eye. It is a typical class 6 mile handicap which fills the weekday schedule. The horse I like is Super Duplex, who has uninspiring form figures of 245080 but has been backed from 16/1 in to 10/1 this morning.

The horse is not the easiest to win with but in my opinion the last few runs can easily be ignored from the formbook. His last three starts have all been over too short a trip and ridden by inexperienced apprentices. The horse has been settled in rear in each start and never had the pace to get involved, and as a result the handicapper has very kindly dropped Super Duplex to a mark of 58. Now considering he ran a good race on Feb 13th over 10 furlongs here when finishing 4th to Understory in a class 5 (a much stronger race than this) I feel this is more than fair.

The horse is ridden by Ian Mongan today, who is the go-to jockey for the trainer and has been on board for all of the horses wins and most of its best runs. The dangers are numerous but I feel this horses recent form figures do not tell the whole story and I fancy it to go close at the very least today.
1pt win


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on June 05, 2013, 02:33:37 PM
^
post earlier pls


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 05, 2013, 04:07:44 PM


Not intending to spam my colleagues at Oddschecker


Call


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 06, 2013, 04:09:54 PM
I'm having a speculative e/w bet on Corporal Maddox @ 50/1 in 7.25 at Sandown.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: MahoganyVic on June 06, 2013, 07:40:39 PM
Heading down to the Haydock meeting tomor, any tips would be greatly appreciated :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 06, 2013, 10:27:20 PM
A guy i follow posted this:

In form jockey Ryan Moore has ridden over 20 winners in the past fortnight at a strike rate of 29% and he travels to Haydock for just three rides.  One of his rides comes aboard MY PROPELLER, who is sent on a near 400 mile round trip as trainer Peter Chapple-Hyam's only runner of the day.  Ryan Moore has ridden seven winners for Chapple-Hyam in recent seasons for an impressive level stakes profit of £50.96.  My Propeller has won three of her 11 starts on turf, including at Listed level as a juvenile.  She won her final start as a 3-y-o and made a very respectable seasonal reappearance in April when 2nd at Bath in a Listed race (ahead of three of these rivals).  She was well beaten on her last start but that came in the Group 3 Palace House Stakes against the likes of Sole Power, Kingsgate Native and Tangerine Trees.  Conditions should be ideal as she handles good to firm ground and is a dual winner over 5 furlongs.

from http://www.chrisbakersportstips.co.uk

Any views on this adz or horsey?  I see horsey's pick the other day Jiroft is fav, and a horse Adz made an observation about (doc hay) is in it too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 07, 2013, 11:48:41 PM
Was it you who said Dazinski was worth keeping an eye on after a race the other week Horsey?

I see it's running in the 14:05 @ Haydock tomorrow with Callan on board.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 08, 2013, 09:29:14 AM
Was it you who said Dazinski was worth keeping an eye on after a race the other week Horsey?

I see it's running in the 14:05 @ Haydock tomorrow with Callan on board.

No mate. Was me.

Looks an ideal race today. Last time out travelled well til got squeezed on rail, and in ground he hates, he was allowed to come home in own time. Stable were in dreadful form then as well.

Two pounds lower than last winning mark, on ideal ground, all his wins have been on G/F, and his only run at Haydock, he came second in a hot race.

Looks mighty fine ew bet at 20s today, even up against a Pricewise pick!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 08, 2013, 12:41:17 PM
Was it you who said Dazinski was worth keeping an eye on after a race the other week Horsey?

I see it's running in the 14:05 @ Haydock tomorrow with Callan on board.

No mate. Was me.

Looks an ideal race today. Last time out travelled well til got squeezed on rail, and in ground he hates, he was allowed to come home in own time. Stable were in dreadful form then as well.

Two pounds lower than last winning mark, on ideal ground, all his wins have been on G/F, and his only run at Haydock, he came second in a hot race.

Looks mighty fine ew bet at 20s today, even up against a Pricewise pick!

I remember now, good luck us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 10:58:51 AM
All aboard the Marie Celeste!

Been watching this one for a while. Its with that little minx Violet Jordan, who seems to squeeze every bit of juice from her horses, but only on demand, and normally at good prices. Owned by the mysterious RAKEBACKMYPOKER.COM.....!

I have watched Amenable tumble down the handicap, from a high of 89 to its current mark of 58. It looked like it was running into form two races ago at Catterick, and was then made fav for an apprentice race at Southwell last time. I think it was the first ride in this country for a promising Irish jockey, but he managed to keep the horse in every bit of kickback going, yet still ran on steadily at the end.

In my notes I reckoned a stiff 5f was what was required. Today at Beverley, he gets that, and at around 10s worth a few quid. GL if you join in!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 12, 2013, 02:27:14 PM
Trading @ 18 currently on betty Adz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 12, 2013, 02:29:28 PM
Bit of money for it now in to 12.5..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 02:33:05 PM
Traded at 1.8 and couldnt get run on rail.

Beaten length and a half and finished hard on the steel......grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 02:33:54 PM
Correction. Beer money traded at 1.24........arrrrrgh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 12, 2013, 02:34:18 PM
Nearly £1200 traded on it IR @1.3.

They must have been watching a different race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 02:35:40 PM
With a run would defo have won, but 1.3 was short as never looked like getting the run


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 02:45:32 PM
FWIW, i am on Reset City in 5.00 at Bev.

Johnston is running it for the 4th time in under 4 weeks, almost unheard of, but it keeps showing all the right signs at home, and no signs of taking the races badly. Last chance for him with me tho!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 05:07:36 PM
FWIW, i am on Reset City in 5.00 at Bev.

Johnston is running it for the 4th time in under 4 weeks, almost unheard of, but it keeps showing all the right signs at home, and no signs of taking the races badly. Last chance for him with me tho!


 :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 12, 2013, 05:22:55 PM
Cheers Adz :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 05:24:53 PM
Bit of a touch there. 7s earlier. ;bigadz;

I Thank You


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 12, 2013, 05:38:19 PM
Good shot sir, unfortunately I missed it :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2013, 09:28:21 PM
Two for tomorrow

Vandross 4.20 Yarmouth @9-1 VC

Given a gentle first ride of the season and flew at the end. Comes from a stable that loves Yarmouth winners, and never thrashes them first time out. Extra 2 furlongs and five pound turn around with current second fav should see him go v close I hope!

Lady Nouf 3.25 Newbury

Cant believe its 15/8 VC. Close second to both Oaks winner and second fav, giving both tough races. Almost looks too big a price! GL if you on!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on June 13, 2013, 04:17:00 PM
Two for tomorrow

Vandross 4.20 Yarmouth @9-1 VCGiven a gentle first ride of the season and flew at the end. Comes from a stable that loves Yarmouth winners, and never thrashes them first time out. Extra 2 furlongs and five pound turn around with current second fav should see him go v close I hope!

Lady Nouf 3.25 Newbury

Cant believe its 15/8 VC. Close second to both Oaks winner and second fav, giving both tough races. Almost looks too big a price! GL if you on!


on Luther !

gl us


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 13, 2013, 04:29:20 PM
Best things in life are free


Sadly this Vandross wasnt listening. Not quite sure why they stuck the blinkers on when he obviously hated them and didnt go a yard.

I shall give him one more try once they take them back off. Sorry bout that.

Lady Nouf. If they say something looks too good to be true, it normally is. Not sure making it into that headwind was great move but there we go.

Onwards


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 13, 2013, 08:25:34 PM
Looking through tomorrow's racing and wanted to try and find a horse with some sort of chance at a decent price in the 17.15 at York. Based on my extremely limited knowledge I picked out Song of Siren at 16/1 to back e/w with B365, seems to have some relevant form, advantageous draw according to Oddschecker, stable not without winners recently.

Welcome any feedback or alternative picks. If I get any encouragement I might go crazy and have another £2.50 e/w.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 13, 2013, 08:45:42 PM
O'Meara, gotta have a chance with anything he runs.

Looks value enough at the price, only thing is the kid on it has only had one ride this year.

Race has a Chompy horse in it that has done me a couple of favours, Arc Light that looks to be an improving sort.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 14, 2013, 06:20:11 PM
List horse entered twice next midweek, Barwick. Oi oi!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 14, 2013, 07:53:32 PM
Carnage tomorrow

Fancy 3

Sam Sharp 2.40
Lady Rosamunde 5.05
Tatlisu 7.35

All ew prices. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 14, 2013, 08:34:00 PM
Bet Tatlisu last time out at a big price, definately didnt get a clear run, i think it bumped into the horse infront atleast 3 times, fancy it tomorrow as well as long as it gets a clear run.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on June 14, 2013, 09:13:53 PM
List horse entered twice next midweek, Barwick. Oi oi!

You got a mention in Laddies shops yesterday!

Went something like this:

Laddies drone 1 "Graham Wheldon in the Post goes for xyz in 4.15 at Wanga Wanga. I think he's one the Post's best tipsters"

Laddies drone 2. "Never heard of him"

LOL



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 14, 2013, 09:15:39 PM
Was Chompy doing the form for Cartoon racing?!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 14, 2013, 09:24:14 PM
List horse entered twice next midweek, Barwick. Oi oi!

You got a mention in Laddies shops yesterday!

Went something like this:

Laddies drone 1 "Graham Wheldon in the Post goes for xyz in 4.15 at Wanga Wanga. I think he's one the Post's best tipsters"

Laddies drone 2. "Never heard of him"

LOL


Booooooom!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 15, 2013, 11:50:22 AM
Rivellino caught my eye last time out with what looked like very bad luck IR.

Runs today at York 3.50pm.

Looks a tough race but well-drawn in the kind of EW contest that would have sir senseialot drooling. I suspect it could be improving so a little ~12/1 EW seems fair enough.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 15, 2013, 12:53:51 PM
Bet Tatlisu last time out at a big price, definately didnt get a clear run, i think it bumped into the horse infront atleast 3 times, fancy it tomorrow as well as long as it gets a clear run.


More value pie. Lets hope we get to eat some

16s into 11/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 15, 2013, 01:39:51 PM
Hopefully between Adz/Hugh/Pricewise and Ben Linfoot the Vegas fund is getting topped up today... Leggoooooo!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 15, 2013, 03:00:40 PM
First one in

9-1(15/2)...... ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 15, 2013, 03:10:17 PM
Freerolling the day, and the Olympic Garden is depending on you Adz ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 15, 2013, 03:55:33 PM
Meh traded @1.5 IR then not ridden out for a place :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 15, 2013, 03:58:35 PM
Olympic Garden look out!

<3 Pricewise!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 15, 2013, 07:38:33 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Get in you good thing....Oi Oi!!!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 15, 2013, 07:47:28 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Get in you good thing....Oi Oi!!!!!

Strippers throughout Vegas will be giving thanks to you shortly!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 15, 2013, 08:10:27 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

Get in you good thing....Oi Oi!!!!!

Oi oi, nice work :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: redsimon on June 15, 2013, 08:16:40 PM
Nice tipping , good to see my skybet balance looking a lot healthier :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on June 15, 2013, 08:25:13 PM
well done!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 15, 2013, 09:10:50 PM
Top tipstering sir. Machin's yawnsome puns ruined an otherwise interesting card.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 16, 2013, 12:23:25 AM
Would like to have a quiet one but its on my list.

Lutine Bell 4.40 Donc. Ran on late over 7 last time, and over 6 this, but with a clear run, last time, could have won at either. Ryan Moore up for small stable. Surprised its as big as 5s.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 16, 2013, 11:58:16 AM
Nice tipping yesterday Adzy, I missed the first race and let the RP put me off the other selections..

Must remember to back your picks blind next time, good luck today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 16, 2013, 12:31:03 PM
Non Runner. 8)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 17, 2013, 09:21:25 AM
Ascot study day. Feels like I'm back at school, but fun school.

For the 3 maybe 4 of you that read my offerings, do you like the write up, or couldn't give a shit and just want the selections.

Now form an orderly queue, don't all rush ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on June 17, 2013, 09:54:34 AM
Ascot study day. Feels like I'm back at school, but fun school.

For the 3 maybe 4 of you that read my offerings, do you like the write up, or couldn't give a shit and just want the selections.

Now form an orderly queue, don't all rush ;)

write up is vital, please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Eso Kral on June 17, 2013, 11:37:39 AM
Ascot study day. Feels like I'm back at school, but fun school.

For the 3 maybe 4 of you that read my offerings, do you like the write up, or couldn't give a shit and just want the selections.

Now form an orderly queue, don't all rush ;)

write up is vital, please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 17, 2013, 11:44:16 AM
+1 write up pls,


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 17, 2013, 12:23:29 PM
Texts to remind me too pls boss ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 17, 2013, 04:40:53 PM
Ascot study day. Feels like I'm back at school, but fun school.

For the 3 maybe 4 of you that read my offerings, do you like the write up, or couldn't give a shit and just want the selections.

Now form an orderly queue, don't all rush ;)

Either way for me, just as long as I have time to read it and get on from work I don't mind :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Somerled on June 17, 2013, 04:45:42 PM
Ascot study day. Feels like I'm back at school, but fun school.

For the 3 maybe 4 of you that read my offerings, do you like the write up, or couldn't give a shit and just want the selections.

Now form an orderly queue, don't all rush ;)

Write up please.
Soon as you like.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 17, 2013, 06:21:57 PM
Has to be bet with PP

Sovereign Debt 16-1 ew. Best price and also qualifies for money back if AK wins.

Keen to take on Animal Kingdom as its yet to run over here/win over a mile/raced in Dubai/States, round tracks vs straight/grass etc, So at odds on seems worth trying to find one to beat him.

I have watched SD since his first race, due to connections, and seen him gradually improve with age/experience. He has v good course form, and ran his best race to date last time out to come second in the Lockinge. To now Spencer has ridden him and given him too much to do on plenty of occasions and he always appears too late on the scene.
Kirby took over last time and made a move a bit earlier and hopefully will learn from it.
With his improving profile and liking for the course I really am expecting a big run in what looks a weak field for the event.


The other one I fancy is a massive price(tend to leave the shorties alone. Like Horsey, I work on the basis you can miss a few times if you look outside the norm)
Apache 5.00. 40s with VC/Stan/365.
An O brien cast off, it was well touted early doors, but looked a bit slow. As a Gallileo he is crying out for distance races and last time he was finally stepped up to 2m, he travelled really well at Haydock in a decent enough handicap, running on nicely from a mile back to finish 5th. The last time he had been run over a similar suitable type of distance, was the 1.6m Melrose(a v strong York handicap later in the year, where he was well supported and finished like he wasn't stopping in 3rd)
With most of the field heading into unknown territory distance wise, he has the pedigree to relish the step up, and at 40s worth a chance. Stable hardly flying, but like the jockey, and its all factored in.

My notes said to back Swiss Spirit(3.05) next time out regardless after his last race, where he lost a lot of ground at the start, but with a real strong field against him, I shall leave it up to you! GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 18, 2013, 05:31:29 PM
Safe to say, I have had better days........ ;whistle;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 18, 2013, 05:41:23 PM
we'll get them tomorrow.  Anyone see where chompys list horse is running yet?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 18, 2013, 05:47:27 PM
Barwick not running this week :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 18, 2013, 05:54:05 PM
Shame, let us know if you have any more good things please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 18, 2013, 09:49:52 PM
Couldn't hit a barn door today

Gonna chuck two bullets at a couple of old stagers in the Hunt Cup. One each side of the draw

Premio Loco 40-1 BFred.
C&D winner and should love this drop into a top handicap with a good pace guaranteed. Almost a stone lower than his last winning mark and Baker knows how to get the best from him.

Directorship 33-1 365
Seems to be on the improve at 7. Last year seemed to continually be unlucky in his runs and this year under new pilot Dane O'Neill is 2-2, and last time beat a decent field where top 5 have all franked the form, but an easy 3 lengths. Again, needs a strong pace two come off.

Back em both ew 1,2,3,4,5.


Having a complete Banzai in the big one with a small ew on Miblish who can be backed at 100-1. Seems to be improving, which needs to, obviously, but ran a good race last time having stumbled badly from the stalls. Got Ryan Moore up, and every so often Barmy Brittain knocks in one of these supposed no hopers. Hope to see The Fugue come back with a win. My fav horse from last year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 19, 2013, 04:55:21 PM
Nearly..... Premio Loco,  Ran a cracker, and glad didn't put all my "draw bias" eggs in one basket. Dictatorship, got murdered in the betting-backed into 14s....and on the track. Yet again proving value don't pay the bills.

Very pleased with the sweat Miblish gave as well. Sure didnt run like a 100-1 shot.

Getting there...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 19, 2013, 04:58:19 PM
Sums up today for me, I could only get 40s with Betfred and the bald wanker would only lay me £4


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 19, 2013, 06:04:49 PM
love the loco

well done adz picking some pearlers

having a really busy time here at present be back on more soon (i hope)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 19, 2013, 06:15:32 PM
interesting lads are still laying 11-2 No Nay Never in the Norfolk tommorow (been smashed in everywere else)

trainer has said all the time this is his best and quickest, his 20-1 shot lead everywhere but the line today and the speed figures of No Nay Never are miles better

I am sure he will lead and 11-2 looks more than fair


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 19, 2013, 06:26:29 PM
Come on back Horsey. Just keeping reins warm while you were away, and I leave for honeymoon next week for a month, so Your Thread Needs You!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 19, 2013, 07:44:24 PM
Quite excited.

Two tracker horses at v nice prices for tomorrow

4.25 Red Avenger 40s generally

Ran in the Silver Bowl at Haydock and the write up doesn't reflect the race I saw. It certainly wasnt "pushed along 3f out, weakened one out" I saw more of a "squeezed when starting a challenge, stayed on when race over, never nearer" And I am not even talking through my pocket. Maybe thats why he is 40s. Great!!

5.35 Royal Skies 12s
In the notebook after it won a race at Ponte. Two words. "Royal Ascot". Needed a penalty to get in and since been bumped a heavy 13lbs but won again off new mark last week very nicely , and looks like the annual Johnstone RA winner to me. Always seems to get an improver here in top form.

Also impressed by Riposte in the second. Needs to make up over a stone on the ratings, but fancy it can, and would love to see a Cecil winner.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 19, 2013, 07:57:04 PM
People getting on your tips already probably know, but just incase - worth doing red avenger at betvictor with their promo.  Hughes on the fav for the race and if he places (top 5) and red avenger loses then you get your money back.

Any worries about the forcast rain Adz? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 19, 2013, 08:04:20 PM
Both only run on soft ground on their first ever runs mate. Neither beaten too far, so hard to draw any conclusions.

Would be less worried by Royal S, as has a lovely round action.

Just seen RS is also declared for the Queens Vase on Friday.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 19, 2013, 09:01:19 PM
Both only run on soft ground on their first ever runs mate. Neither beaten too far, so hard to draw any conclusions.

Would be less worried by Royal S, as has a lovely round action.

Just seen RS is also declared for the Queens Vase on Friday.....


What does this mean for its chances tomorrow?  My horse racing knowledge is limited.  If the ground doesn't suit tomorrow it will go non runner and go for friday?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 19, 2013, 09:43:58 PM
Honestly not sure Ali.

He has a few entries in both and I can only assume because RS ran last week, they may feel he may need the extra day to get over his exertions.

He may of course be that good he can win both ;kev;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 19, 2013, 09:52:40 PM
Fair enough, my money is down already anyway so whatever will be will be. Last note for those looking to back red avenger, drifted to 50/1 in two spots, and luckily one of those is betvictor (the other is bet365)  where imo its best to back him with the money back as a free bet offer if hughes places on the fav wentworth.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 19, 2013, 10:05:55 PM
Good news on RA. Longer the better.

Not too worried about RS. He sure aint using tomorrow as a tee up race for Friday, so if he runs he's trying. If he doesn't -money back!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on June 19, 2013, 10:41:30 PM

Had a great afternoon at Hamilton with the racing there and Ascot on the big screen.  They start the longer races in front of the stands so you can get this view

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4080/3ifn.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/3ifn.jpg/)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 04:00:34 AM
Lovely pic mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 12:33:43 PM
Royal Skies out, Looks like he is out to spoil the Cecil party tomorrow....eek!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 03:10:22 PM
Oi Oi.

Nice One Sir Henry.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 20, 2013, 03:22:45 PM
Both boys in form today so far  ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 04:34:39 PM
Another strange day.

Nice winner for Cecil which paid for the day

Avenger. What a weird ride. Almost tailed off with two to go and finished about 9th abso flying down the near side. Gonna be one of them that costs me fortunes before finally winning when odds on I expect, but for now he shall stay in the book. Apols.

Edit. If backed with VC, should get your money back tho( if placed £25 or less), thanks to Wentworth placing!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on June 20, 2013, 04:43:18 PM
Bricked the 4.25 completely, not even a sweat.

Surely the bookies was getting a hammering before this race?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 07:41:29 PM
Profit again so best keep bashing on.

As Johnstone loves to farm the Queens Vase at 5.00, I have to stick with Royal Skies. Looks a weaker race overall tbh, and if he stays looks great value at 12s again.

Not sure I shall be going mad on it but shall be investing in Dick Doughtwylie 4.25. In his last couple of races he has made a good fist of things against the like of Al Kazeem, Danadanna, Thomas Chippendale beaten not very far in two races. Looks cracking ew shout at 10s.

Finally. The Buckingham Palace looks the hardest race this week, with several fancied Hunt Cup horses that missed the cut turning up here. However Shamaal Nibras ran an eyecatching race first time out for his new stable with the young jock on top, not exactly riding his heart out, looking to me like the prize was another day. At 33s I shall be getting stuck in at 33s with PP ew first 6!

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 20, 2013, 09:43:12 PM
Loving the top 6 each way on PP for the last race,  Shamaal seems to prefer the softer ground so im hoping for abit of rain!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 10:03:02 PM
Not sure if he has avoided GF ground, not been much around last year or so!, but sire won on Firm, so hoping its not a concern.

Time will tell. One thing for sure I think 33s is great value at 6 places for this horse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 10:12:53 PM
Not a great one for laying horses, but fav in first  tomorrow with Frankie up top got to be worth considering. I know Fahey loves it but Frankie riding so bad he looks like he needs the full allowance again.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 20, 2013, 10:27:12 PM
Maybe worth backing Joyeus the second fav then on hills or lads with the money back if 2nd offer.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 10:39:59 PM
Hills a point better.

Is it Ipad/Moby only offer?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 20, 2013, 10:44:37 PM
Yeah hills one is mobile/ipad only.

Just got my royal skies bet on, hopefully just finish work intime to catch the races and get the weekend off to a good start!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 20, 2013, 10:52:44 PM
N1.

Lets hope Frankie is having a "big " nite ;)....lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 20, 2013, 11:21:19 PM
I'd worry Adz, you might have problems because I had backed Doughtywylie earlier and it can't be healthy picking the same horses I have!

I'll have to see if I can get C4 Racing in the Nugget sports book at 6am Saturday. However, hopefully by then Tikay and I will be freerolling our expedition to Glitter Gulch on some nice results tomorrow ;D

Good luck everyone!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on June 20, 2013, 11:27:14 PM
Probably the worst name for anything ever anywhere.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 20, 2013, 11:40:29 PM
Probably the worst name for anything ever anywhere.

Not sure about that, I'll have a think while I'm flying tomorrow and I'm sure I've got a few in the memory bank worse...

Obviously secondhand information though, never frequented such establishments myself ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on June 20, 2013, 11:44:18 PM
Probably the worst name for anything ever anywhere.

Not sure about that, I'll have a think while I'm flying tomorrow and I'm sure I've got a few in the memory bank worse...

Obviously secondhand information though, never frequented such establishments myself
;)

...is the correct answer.

Get ready for adverts like this:

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CquP3VGCeEE


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Somerled on June 21, 2013, 09:39:38 AM
Just going to throw a random big priced one out there for today in the 3.45.

Lovely Pass at 40-1 with Victor looks too big for a horse with C&D form - beautifully bred too - fresh too, so I think should be more of a 16-1 shot. With the Hughes money back offer too I just think it's a big price.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 21, 2013, 10:34:41 AM
just jamesie for me today small eway with 5 places in the 5.35 at 20-1

likes ascot, the watered and rain sodden ground is an unexpected bonus, ran perfectly well last time over a mile at the curragh last time looked like a prep run and probably was



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 21, 2013, 10:58:11 AM
It'll be interesting to see the effect this rain on top of the watering has on the draw.

High was definitely favoured on the first day but the last couple of days have seemed pretty even. Will soft ground favour high draws again?

Who'd be a clerk of the course?

The forecast rain didn't arrive yesterday leading to quite a few withdrawals so he takes the fairly obvious decision to water last night, now it's raining on top of that..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 21, 2013, 11:17:21 AM
the bha directive is to aim for good to firm ground

however as soon as the ground goes firm for some reason connections panic

stickels loves the watering can todays ground could be anything


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2013, 12:53:54 PM
With all of Hughes whinging about the draw in the Coronation, could resist looking harder at the race.

After looking at all the collateral form of the big 2, I can't help but think Maureen has been very unlucky in her last two races, both the 1000Gs. Finishing 6th in both, in Ireland she was knocked from pillar to post and in England Pesslier gave her far to much to do. prior to that she was a comfortable winner of the Fred Darling, again, overcoming some interference.

Cant help thinking 16s is really quite a good bet....oh no....it has Frankie on board. Still, if he wins on Sandiva I am probably wrong about his "losing the plot". Happy to be proved wrong, if it gives this one a better chance!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2013, 02:45:27 PM
Frankie swerve worked. Wrong horse but done ew so no damage.

Next!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2013, 03:52:33 PM
LOL @ Hughes. Moaning moron..

Still money back all round after another example of Frankie being a shadow of former etc...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2013, 05:28:13 PM
Think its fairly clear Mr Johnstone made a mistake.

Skies cruised into lead round the bend and then just fell in a heap. Should have left him in the 1.4miler for sure.

Lesson learnt...probably not.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 21, 2013, 05:54:55 PM
stickles worked his magic again


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2013, 05:57:19 PM
Shamaal gives another profitable day. Not magic but keeping our head above water.

NAP runs tomorrow.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 21, 2013, 06:10:46 PM
Nice work Adz, i'l load up on the nap when you post it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2013, 07:11:46 PM
Just me and you left Bluffy!

Been keeping close tabs on this one since he moved from Meehan(Rubbish) to O'Meara(Genius).

Elusivity 4.25 Nap. Run a couple of lovely races in good company and not been terribly lucky, but that keeps him nicely placed to go well in the handicap. Should travel into the race nicely, as he can hopefully get plenty of cover and good booking with Quealy up. 28s ew with SJ first 5 tonite, but maybe some first 6 concessions tomorrow.

Another one that has actually beat Elusivity at Ascot a couple of years ago(race worth watching), I fancy to run a big ew race in the 3.45.
Sirius Prospect ew 50s generally. Again, seems to be running back into form after a year or so in the doldrums(cliche city).

Hope to see my Fav flat horse of the moment Mont Athos win, but suspect he needs a little further, and all eyes seem to be on another challenge for Melbourne. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 21, 2013, 07:24:12 PM
Probably won't be short of finding backers for sirius prospect on here.  When i first came across this forum i saw a thread titled 'this could pay for xmas' sirius prospect was the tip then and judging by the length of it, alot of people got on.  Anyway i'm on both, good luck us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on June 21, 2013, 09:45:16 PM
Probably won't be short of finding backers for sirius prospect on here.  When i first came across this forum i saw a thread titled 'this could pay for xmas' sirius prospect was the tip then and judging by the length of it, alot of people got on.  Anyway i'm on both, good luck us!

Yeh goes back to 2010.....and a few times after!

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=50540.0


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2013, 11:06:43 PM
LOL, fun read.

I think me putting it up at 50s seems a touch fanciful now!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 10:00:29 AM
Convinced there is some value to be had in the last race today.

Stand out fav in Shawaardi, has my old mate Frankie on board. Horse is top rated, based mainly on his second last year when an unfancied 33s shot. A close look at the race will show he was not far ahead of the Ralph Beckett trained Seaside Sizzler, who 3 out was travelling as well as anything. with a few lengths between them and both having been targeted at the race, the value has to lie with SS at 20-1 vs 3-1 for the Frankie ride(and I have done to death my thoughts on him....LAY LAY). Not too many will truly stay. SS will. Good ew bet.

Also, for those that already think Im nuts, I shall offer up a few quid on Riptide. Also ran in the race last year and finished just behind SS. A jockey change to Paul Mulrenhan  this year has seen this moody fella look a bit happier and has run two cracking races at Ponty this year. At 100-1, or 150 on the machine I have to mention it.

GL all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 22, 2013, 11:58:05 AM
Adz, you mentioned you don't think mount athos will win, so do you think betting ektihaam on hills with the free bet offer if second is a good bet?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 12:09:29 PM
Hi mate.

I have backed him, but more in hope, and am not backed anything to beat him, but all reports today would suggest he has been primed. My concern is Chester and Melbourne were the designated targets at start of year and Cumani is normally meticulous.

If I really thought/knew this was a target I would chance a bigger bet as I think he is the dogs.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: treefella on June 22, 2013, 01:10:18 PM
Love Krypton Factor 345race ascot today. 25/1 four plcs paid Skybet great value IMO.
 This is a serious sprinter make no mistake. Ok Fallon drops to ride the quirky fav who we have already beaten last year in this very same race. Last year the ground was not right and we didn't have the best of draws. Different proposition today being draw/ ground. Can't blameFallon for deciding to ride the fav today but we have a decent replacement booked to ride. In fact I would say a better jockey than the current Fallon.
This horse has always run well and I see a very big run today. Gl to those that get on ! : )


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 01:23:42 PM
good luck today gents

ascot looks to hard for me today like a couple at Redcar

2.40

Favourites trainer has hit form and demands respect. however has a 10lb penalty for winning a race on its 21st start last time which looks harsh. i like MASKA PONY at 8-1, still a flat maiden but won a few over hurdles love the jockey booking and hart likes to get on with it from the front this trip should suit better.


6.10

piekeroog (first time hood might calm it down a bit but still a nutter of late), light the shitty, blue top, uncut stone, all want the lead i am hoping this helps a cliff horse of mine SHIRLS SON SAM a long standing maiden who often pulls like a mad thing. It was patently obvious all of last season that Kelly Harrison was not strong enough to win the battle with him, despite this was often well backed and has shown glimpses of ability.

I am hoping the underused Barry Mchugh can switch him off if he cant settle and race properly off this probably fast pace he never will win a race. The current 12-1 is just about acceptable





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 22, 2013, 01:28:18 PM
  Was at the gym when I got a message society rock 11/2 , get back and obv missed it, only lasted 15 minutes!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 02:48:21 PM
N1 Horsey.

Good to have the thread owner back on form!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 02:50:04 PM
thanks adz

was a long last 3 furlongs

looked a 1.01 shot and then a 25-1 shot everytime they switched the camera angle

Nice ride from Hart did not panic


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 22, 2013, 02:51:20 PM
Comes back, posts, wins, easy game!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 02:52:19 PM
Comes back, posts, wins, easy game!

wish it was!

thanks a



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 03:17:40 PM
Horrible race there. Sad ending.

As for MA, ran as I thought he might, although Calamity Spencer showing again what a liability he is in amongst horses, getting squeezed at critical point then running on, defo needs further but could have won IMO. LOL at Mike Cattermole who was v disappointed...clown.


Johnny Murtagh. What a Don of the saddle. Pure genius, and will be a loss when he hangs up his saddle soon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: treefella on June 22, 2013, 03:53:06 PM
Overall pleased with Kryptons run there . Had nice few bob on the place : )


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 04:57:18 PM
Gutted. Needed covering up and was battling to find any cover with just a few horses staying stands side. Still managed to finish 7th and sure its money lent.

Obv the second any one of my fancies gets mentioned on TFT, thats the  :-*of death for it too.....lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 22, 2013, 04:59:23 PM
yeah wasn't too far of.  Hopefully one of Neils picks comes in in the next, epecially art scholar :), also hughes has changed ride to laahag, shorter odds than his original ride and therefore better for the betvictor promo id imagine.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 06:01:17 PM
Decent run by Sizzler to nearly save the day, but decent place return. Never seen Riptide travel so sweet til he got chopped up round top bend.

Have to wonder how Cattermole keeps any job. Comments on both the above, were I wonder how they will cope with a trip this far. If he ever looked past the top three in the market he would notice they ran in it last year. Idiot.

Anyway, no damage done this week, and plenty of ifs and maybe, but personally come out a smidge ahead somehow.

See you in a month. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 22, 2013, 06:09:22 PM
Cheers for the tips mate, have a good honeymoon!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 07:34:43 PM
fancy a couple more tonight

Lingfield 8.35 STANDPOINT 4-1

still well handicapped it hacked up last time and is 9lbs lower than the mark it won off last year
12f probably not ideal but it's got the best 12f form, the focail maith run, the stand guard run, the de rigueur form, even the illustrious forest form is better than the rest of these have (fave hates aw, second fave will bounce) and were achieved off marks in the mid 70s, right back to form now and still off 68
 

Lost its way when dore was out of form but looked right on form last time trip is a doubt but against these should be ok. Very strange handicapper only putting 2lb for the last win but nice of him


9.20 Haydock Livias Dream 14-1 open race back to right trip not to happy with jockey booking but cant have everything







Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 08:43:09 PM
Lovely. Got spot Horsey.

Sadly no chance of 14s on LD, had been a WD and some oddschecker prices not updated.

Fingers crossed for a nice double. WP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 08:45:03 PM
thanks

did not really stay but the handicapper only putting up 2lbs saved the day

much the best

ld was 14-1 when posted with lads and vcbet (most were 12-1)

obviously deductions if it wins but ill worry about that when/if it happens

a lot could go wrong really dont like the jockey booking but try not to worry about that to much bar a few



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 09:26:14 PM
Unlucky there. Thought he was gonna nick it.

Not my fav jockey either, but thought he rode as good a race as possible. Just beat by an improver.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 09:28:27 PM
that was annoying

especially as i had a very rare treble with the two winners

no was a good ride exposing any stamina doubts in the others, the only improver won well in the end


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 09:43:38 PM
i have been waiting for TARTAN JURA to go over a marathon trip for longer than i have been trying to lose weight

4.10 ponte tommorow forecast suggests ground should ease which it needs, this horse stays all day and then tommorow form figures suggest it is a dog its goodwood sole win tells me it probably isnt just needs a massive stamina test has no turn of foot at all

4-1 is a little shorter than i had hoped but i am still happy to have a decent bet at the price



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 09:50:25 PM
LOL. Leave tomorrow, and only one I backed is Orsipus, naturally, in same race ;frustrated; More cos it is one of those big plus column horses.

Better have a saver!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 09:51:30 PM
love Orsipus one of my favourite stayers would never rule the old boy out of any race as loves to win

4-1 is no giveaway on mine i was hoping for a max bet at 6-1+ and a slightly weaker race this is a decent contest


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 09:53:04 PM
Aye. Looks a goodie.

Be lucky. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 09:59:56 PM
thanks and you

when you of?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2013, 10:18:19 PM
Tomorrow. Back in time for Goodwood!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 22, 2013, 10:20:28 PM
have a good time


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 24, 2013, 09:20:47 PM
Compy's Arc light vs Adz's reset city tomorrow in the 4pm Beverley in a tight looking race.  I know Adz is on holiday,  but do you have any views on arc light chompy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 24, 2013, 09:26:50 PM
chompy is in Vegas

sure he will post any thoughts if he sees this though A



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 24, 2013, 09:28:37 PM
Ah ok, thanks for the headsup mate.  Any views yourself? I think at 15/2 arc light is a decent each way bet, however i know you aren't an each way backer yourself


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 28, 2013, 10:48:26 AM
sorry a missed that post


3.45 Muss today Burning Thread

Form figures awful but been poorly handicapped for a long time now, last semblance of any form was this time last year over this course and distance with a good 3rd. First time blinkers, lowest class race it has ever faced by a long way and this does not look a strong class 4 race. Bit risky but at 14-1 i have taken a small chance


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 28, 2013, 12:39:30 PM
No worries and good luck with your selection.  I've had a small bet on it.  Also my only other one today is one you posted up before 'jiroft' in the 7:45 at Newcastle.  I see Hugh Taylor has picked another in the race in magical macey stating that any more rain and it'l be a good thing.  Jiroft has won on good and heavy before tho so I don't think it's too much of a worry.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 28, 2013, 01:37:02 PM
Burning Thread now non-runner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 28, 2013, 03:00:15 PM
Mister mananaman on my tracker and come up on phone. internet is too poor here to look at video form of others but big price in gosforth i see. worth watchin his last race, maybe worth a small ew, but hoped for a lesser race tbh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 28, 2013, 03:37:03 PM
No worries and good luck with your selection.  I've had a small bet on it.  Also my only other one today is one you posted up before 'jiroft' in the 7:45 at Newcastle.  I see Hugh Taylor has picked another in the race in magical macey stating that any more rain and it'l be a good thing.  Jiroft has won on good and heavy before tho so I don't think it's too much of a worry.

tweet from the owner mate

Jiroft takes his chance tonight. Originally expected him to be placed at worst. But this change of ground was not wanted & is a big unknown


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 28, 2013, 03:42:11 PM
No worries and good luck with your selection.  I've had a small bet on it.  Also my only other one today is one you posted up before 'jiroft' in the 7:45 at Newcastle.  I see Hugh Taylor has picked another in the race in magical macey stating that any more rain and it'l be a good thing.  Jiroft has won on good and heavy before tho so I don't think it's too much of a worry.

tweet from the owner mate

Jiroft takes his chance tonight. Originally expected him to be placed at worst. But this change of ground was not wanted & is a big unknown

bah, stupid rain! i have to let it ride and hope for the best.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 28, 2013, 09:12:23 PM
No worries and good luck with your selection.  I've had a small bet on it.  Also my only other one today is one you posted up before 'jiroft' in the 7:45 at Newcastle.  I see Hugh Taylor has picked another in the race in magical macey stating that any more rain and it'l be a good thing.  Jiroft has won on good and heavy before tho so I don't think it's too much of a worry.

He knows his stuff I suppose!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 29, 2013, 07:24:45 PM
just put it up on tft

really like STORM KING at doncaster tonight

also in a smaller way like BEE JAY KAY at lingfield, slowly progressive for steps up in trip despite breeding suggesting otherwise. Still looked a bit green last time and should at the very least get a good trip from the front here, its a race full of lightly raced horses if one of them is well in it almost certainly wont win but at 16-1 im having a small bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on June 29, 2013, 07:51:02 PM
Good shout, I had Kakatosi, came 2nd, had a tip for it. Was slowly away but yours won by enough anyway. I should've done the forecast!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ForthThistle on June 29, 2013, 10:03:53 PM
WP Horsey.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 30, 2013, 12:01:42 PM
Just caught up with weekend racing and gutted/delighted to see Trading Leather win Irish Derby... My 200-1 bet on him to win our Derby, not quite so pleasing tho........ ;grr;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 08, 2013, 08:55:04 AM
excuse the spam but i am covering the oddschecker free tips section again for this week only

nearly had a good start yesterday hopefully can find a winner today

cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 08, 2013, 09:18:42 AM
excuse the spam but i am covering the oddschecker free tips section again for this week only

nearly had a good start yesterday hopefully can find a winner today

cheers

If you do half as well as you did last time you did the Oddschecker stuff, that'd be enough.

Good luck!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 11, 2013, 10:13:14 AM
Missed this, best of luck and how is it going so far horsey?

I've not been awake for most of the week (some may say for the last 20 years), so haven't bet on anything since getting home. Still, I am hoping that Newmarket can put a dent in the hole that Vegas created...

Fingers crossed the Messrs Linfoot, Taylor and Segal are on form!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 11, 2013, 10:52:06 AM
two seconds so far this week at 10-1 and 14-1 by a combined beaten distance of about 1/2 length and the rest have finished last :)

good luck if you have a bet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 13, 2013, 06:28:34 PM
More than a little unlucky with your last selection on oddschecker today Horsey,  still loved the writeups that went with them this week .


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on July 22, 2013, 06:44:22 PM
Very small word for Angus Glens in the next at Windsor (6.50)

Good each way heat, so maybe worth 5 bob ew at 25/1 or 20/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 22, 2013, 06:50:19 PM
More than a little unlucky with your last selection on oddschecker today Horsey,  still loved the writeups that went with them this week .

thanks Simon was one of those weeks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 22, 2013, 06:50:32 PM
good luck keith


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on July 22, 2013, 06:59:25 PM
Argh.

Slow away, but still looked likely to place a furlong out but just ran out of it.

Will win races over further and with a bit more experience under its belt.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 22, 2013, 07:21:14 PM
cracking run



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 23, 2013, 09:04:05 PM
Lutine Bell v big at 7-1 for the 8.05 at Sandown tomo evening.(Laddies)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 25, 2013, 08:48:03 PM
Pricewise has just given his antepost picks for the Ebor and St.Leger if anyone fancies a punt

Ebor

1pt Well Sharp @ 14/1

1pt Stencive   @ 12/1


St. Leger

1pt Excess Knowledge @ 20/1

1pt Nichols Canyon  @ 50/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 30, 2013, 12:32:49 PM
Been waiting for Captain Cat to surface this year, and told a few people to get involved, but a mate just sent me a quite compelling stat (used to love the stat stuff, but feel the juice gets sucked out of the prices now, as everybody has easy access)

basically Charlton at Goodwood

Backing his 3-5yo male handicap runners over 6f – 1m1f that are 14/1 or shorter would have given you 6 winners from 7 runners and a LSP of +£35.00. They finished: 1191111.

I shall be going in again!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 31, 2013, 12:06:35 PM
World and his wife seem to have a view on the first race. me too.

He may well win, but just cant have LC as fav.

My selection First Avenue get 3lb from him yet is 15lb superior over hurdles. A different event admittedly, but a factor. The wet ground has gone in FAs favour and he was a nearest at finish in the Queen Alexandra, a race in which many of the fancied horses here ran in.

This race has been his main target all year, and the fact he did me a massive favour in the Imperial Cup, has nothing to do with me fancying him again! ;whistle;

At 20/18s ew first 5, looks a great bet


EDIT. I think I shall gracefully retire from making suggestions on blonde.  :redcard:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 31, 2013, 08:20:41 PM
really like THORPE in the 8.35

has looked to need this trip both last starts personally i would have closer to the fav


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on July 31, 2013, 10:46:28 PM
World and his wife seem to have a view on the first race. me too.

He may well win, but just cant have LC as fav.

My selection First Avenue get 3lb from him yet is 15lb superior over hurdles. A different event admittedly, but a factor. The wet ground has gone in FAs favour and he was a nearest at finish in the Queen Alexandra, a race in which many of the fancied horses here ran in.

This race has been his main target all year, and the fact he did me a massive favour in the Imperial Cup, has nothing to do with me fancying him again! ;whistle;

At 20/18s ew first 5, looks a great bet


EDIT. I think I shall gracefully retire from making suggestions on blonde.  :redcard:

They say you should always end on a high, so you have to keep going, and when you give winning tips you'l want to carry on anyway!  In other words, keep them coming :) that goes for anyone else too who feels like posting.  If i was good enough/ clued up enough about horses i'd defo put some fancies up, as it is I rely on you, horsey and anyone else who is brave enough to put up their views.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 01, 2013, 04:09:24 PM
Sparrow please post any views/bets you have

You are shrewder than you give yourself credit for


I am told Radiator is very forward and smart and should win the maiden (4.20)

Very rare i bet in a maiden but the author of such news is somebody i respect

Just passing it on


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on August 01, 2013, 06:38:21 PM
Will do, i am more of a researcher of tips than one for picking them myself.  Football season is back soon though, and thats where i find i do best and have more confidence.  I've only really been into horse racing over the past year or so, and i've really got into it recently. I love taking the william hill mobile offers, the only thing is , I don't think ive had a winner with any of the free bets i've had. 




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 01, 2013, 06:50:15 PM
i am not saying this applies to you but i have a friend who is obsessed with the hills free bets

All well and good but he then does not put any time into what he uses the free bets on themselves


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on August 01, 2013, 07:00:43 PM
I can honestly say it at least semi applies to me.  I try to follow fred as much as possible, i also look for decent priced bets and dont split them into each way bets (basically as Doobs suggested), however i guess i see them as a free shot, which they are.  But i should take more care into how i choose to use that free shot.  I'm also guilty of using them too quickly, rather than waiting for a decent bet to come up (within limit as I think they expire after 7 days).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 01, 2013, 08:38:54 PM
dont be to hard on yourself we all make mistakes



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 04, 2013, 04:48:31 PM
Angus McNae and Mark Johnson just agreed that French Ties is 'an honest sort'...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 25, 2013, 03:44:10 PM
fancy a few today

      Balmoral Castle       3.55 Goodwood
                       6/1      
      Maybeme       4.05 Beverley
            10/1      
                Running Deer    4.50 Yarmouth
                       7/2      

sorry no time for reasoning


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 25, 2013, 03:49:35 PM
fancy a few today

      Balmoral Castle       3.55 Goodwood
                       6/1      
      Maybeme       4.05 Beverley
            10/1      
                Running Deer    4.50 Yarmouth
                       7/2      

sorry no time for reasoning

You are opposing HECTOR'S CHANCE? (3.55 Gooders).

:)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 12:07:10 PM
A very well handicapped horse in the 2.00 at Carlisle today.

Top weight Kuanyao.

Was useful reliable horse with Peter Makin and has shown little for Dandy Nicholls so far, but shown glimmers of form in recent runs and probably been teed up for something. Last and pretty much only time he ran on an uphill finish, like todays, he won at Newmarket

Normally avoid amateur races like this, but I have watched several vids of the jockey and he seems more compatant than most of these, and I think 8-1 is a nice little ew oppo in a race that wont take much winning.

Worth a little interest


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 12:36:31 PM
good luck adz

Tough race the fav should win (somehow beat the bent easterby thing last time when it was 15lbs at least well in) but the jockey has looked very poor so far (only 3 rides so far)

She works for the stable so screams a little bit to me of trying to get her up and running. Silly Billy responds to plenty of driving not really a great traveller but game not sure she will suit him.

Having said that he is still well in based on that last win.

Like Nicholls in these type of races just seems to be on a general decline as a trainer these days


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 12:44:47 PM
More worried about Lothair tbh. Sangster seems half decent and been some money for it, plus similar winning profile on uphill finishes.

Fingers crossed. Not a major investment and would be happier to see some late cash.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 12:51:40 PM
Get the impression DN is a real party animal. I suspect each winner signals a good party and results in taking the eye of the ball a little. I reckon he still has it, but I expect he needs this sort of barren spell to re-energise and refocus over the next few years.

He is too good and too shrewd to just lose it this quick, IMO


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 12:59:18 PM
17117

Hab Reeh record in amateur riders' races

Also won last 3 times after a run within 10 days

This race looks more of a minefield the more i look

wish you luck adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 01:03:49 PM
You're not wrong...half the fun tho!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 28, 2013, 01:27:41 PM
A very well handicapped horse in the 2.00 at Carlisle today.

Top weight Kuanyao.

Was useful reliable horse with Peter Makin and has shown little for Dandy Nicholls so far, but shown glimmers of form in recent runs and probably been teed up for something. Last and pretty much only time he ran on an uphill finish, like todays, he won at Newmarket

Normally avoid amateur races like this, but I have watched several vids of the jockey and he seems more compatant than most of these, and I think 8-1 is a nice little ew oppo in a race that wont take much winning.

Worth a little interest

Like someone thats prepared to stick their neck out

Good Luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 28, 2013, 02:08:23 PM

Second

Good call, unlucky


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 02:08:37 PM
forecast adz

well done shame not other way round


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 28, 2013, 02:09:44 PM

ul I had a bit on in running when it got away well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 02:09:54 PM
Got the right two, wrong order.

The cast should pay ok tho...!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 02:10:56 PM
the third is still well in i think hardly an inspired ride could barely steer it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 07:12:09 PM
Have backed Imperial Bond small at 16-1 last at southwell

very winnable race, improved from a very low base since joining Ward who is doing well with not a lot of ammo. Sire does quite well here major doubt is the mile (sire poor over a mile) but Ward must think it needs it hardly needs to protect its mark

Saved on throwing roses who won well last time again has good sire stats here and should be clear fav

good luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 07:20:58 PM
also backed Hunting ground in the 7.20 at 13-2

street cry out of a dual g1 winner on dirt, up against two horses out of sadler's wells mares

simple really the switch from the boys in blue to mj is usually a + and mj is 5-9 in older age maidens here



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 07:34:55 PM
Bit late to take that advice there Horsey...N1 tho

GL with the one in the last. Normally switched off by then if nothing stands out, but just looked and notice just how far Smokey Oakey has fallen. As a Lincoln winner it must surely be showing something at home for them not to have retired him.

Callan booked is the best jockey booking for almost a year and he has fallen over 20lbs. Back over fav distance too. As an aside,  last time Callan rode him was 7 years ago.lol

Cant resist a sneaky bet now you have flagged it up. GL



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 07:36:55 PM
Five minutes before off only looked at race late sorry

Yes amazing to see that

Im sure Tompkins still thinks it will win another group race

Interviewed yesterday on RUK amazingly he has attracted more owners, must talk a good game

gd lk


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 07:41:01 PM
For him to have attracted more owners he must have married his kids off to very rich folk.lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 07:42:56 PM
As far as im aware he pretty much breeds all his stock from his existing line

No idea why when the majority are not very good



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 07:49:47 PM
Used to have a couple I used to follow that never quite managed what they should have but at one time or another landed a decent punt on both Steenburg and Brushing. Probably his last winner....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 07:51:07 PM
missed the kempton card earlier

Like Sohar in the 8.20

still a maiden but it's not done much wrong/had much chance for over a year.  

ran well behind john louis, outclassed in listed company.  then the key run, 2nd to ardlui, looked all over the winner, just got outstayed but think on that evidence an easy 2m should be ideal.  needed first run, didn't stay at ascot but ran fine.  was facing the wrong way at the start last time and had no chance.
ardlui won again, they were 9 clear of lieutenant miller a very strong looking form line

its a cracking staying race but 8-1 is a smidgen big i think


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 28, 2013, 07:58:35 PM
Some performance there, or more likely shows how bad the rest are, to give that start away and win so easy from so wide.

Smokey hated the kickback........and racing...lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 28, 2013, 08:49:36 PM
never again with sohar utterly tripless


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 29, 2013, 08:09:57 PM
Sir Reginald ew

3.00 Chester. One of those horses that keeps catching my eye. Had a nice break. Well drawn, and Fahey remains in cracking form.

10 with PP and 365 looks mighty big as Laddies are 13/2.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 30, 2013, 10:01:14 AM
Interesting bit of bookmaking here

Sir Reg now into a general 7-1 yet Laddies have moved to market leader at a stand out 8-1!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 30, 2013, 03:05:56 PM
11-2. Value..... please let me eat it!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 30, 2013, 03:09:00 PM
Holy moly.

Typical Chester shocker ride. Still, small profit again. One day soon will eat a full slice of the Value Pie


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 30, 2013, 03:09:16 PM
unlucky Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 30, 2013, 03:15:57 PM
Just watched it back now,  unlucky m8 :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 30, 2013, 04:08:58 PM
ul adz

had a small bet EXCLUSION at 5-1 in the 7.00 southwell

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: gouty on August 30, 2013, 04:15:56 PM
ul adz

had a small bet EXCLUSION at 5-1 in the 7.00 southwell

gd lk all
I shall be having a small wager on town mouse in this race as they have been messing about with it.

What about having racing on Good Friday? What a bad idea that is.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 31, 2013, 08:20:55 AM
Been waiting almost a year to see this horse back at 5f, and finally get it today in the Beverley bullet.

Baileys jubilee showed fantastic speed last year and I was surprised they started the year over 7f. Not seen since, it has the draw and a long absence to overcome, but if it shows the speed it did last year, it has to be a player vs this modest bunch.

I think there is still some 20s on Betty. Don't go mad, but hopeful nonetheless. Gl


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 31, 2013, 02:40:02 PM
Silly me. Blind optimism that he could overcome that ridic draw was misplaced

Once again we see another Frank Spencer pearler.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on August 31, 2013, 04:05:42 PM
[quote Once again we see another Frank Spencer pearler.
[/quote]

lol was a head in hands typical spencer effort, wp sir!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 01, 2013, 10:31:17 AM
Dance and dance surely massive at tens. Curragh 4.45.gl


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 01, 2013, 10:51:40 AM
Dance and dance surely massive at tens. Curragh 4.45.gl

On already, got on last night, (thanks to a good friend) but where are you getting 10/1 Adz?


http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/curragh/16:45/winner



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 01, 2013, 10:52:42 AM
Betfred last nite and on phone about 10 mins ago


Edit. I may have moved the market ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 01, 2013, 10:56:27 AM
Betfred last nite and on phone about 10 mins ago

Wow, well done you.

I got 9/1 last night & early (2am) this morning, but never saw any 10/1. Betfair were 9/1 (WIN) at the time, & just over 2/1 the place, first three only.

I wanted to get a bit more on this morning, & logged onto Oddschecker at around 7am, it was 8/1 best then. You did well.

Good luck anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 01, 2013, 11:09:06 AM
We both missed out. Looking at the graph on Oddschecker and Coral had him at 12s for a while.

GL us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 01, 2013, 11:11:05 AM
We both missed out. Looking at the graph on Oddschecker and Coral had him at 12s for a while.

GL us!

Bugger.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 01, 2013, 05:23:38 PM
Not sure that horse will ever win again if they keep dropping him out 30 lengths behind the pacesetters....hurumph


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 06, 2013, 01:16:44 PM
Like two in the same race today have backed them both win only

Had more on THE QUARTERJACK 5.20 CHEPSTOW at 16/1

Ground was too fast last time and probably doesn't like windsor, 2/2 left-handed bend on soft down in class a bit to. Enough positives for the price

Smaller bet on AFRO at 14/1

still unexposed excuses last time trainer in form last week and had a few backed at big odds

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 07, 2013, 08:08:29 PM
Pallasator wins the Ces imo if it's on the slow side. That was some comeback effort today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 07, 2013, 08:45:07 PM
Pallasator wins the Ces imo if it's on the slow side. That was some comeback effort today.

Tigerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: gouty on September 09, 2013, 03:51:47 PM
ul adz

had a small bet EXCLUSION at 5-1 in the 7.00 southwell

gd lk all
I shall be having a small wager on town mouse in this race as they have been messing about with it.

What about having racing on Good Friday? What a bad idea that is.
Hmmmm. The fkr just won at 50/1 and I never spotted it today. Doh!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 09, 2013, 03:54:24 PM
knew the horse rang a bell for some reason

ul sir


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: MahoganyVic on September 10, 2013, 01:01:13 PM
Got an email fromt he tote today saying its the biggest ever rollover on the pick 6 at Galway. Worth a shot? Any tips? :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 10, 2013, 03:23:47 PM
Like SPATS COLOMBO in the 5.00 at Redcar today at around 7/1

Progressive from a low level, main angle is the sire is a lot better on soft/heavy than anything else.

Should improve for the ground if it doesnt still has a chance fav look to short to me and not particularly worried about anything else in there.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 10, 2013, 05:10:48 PM
Like SPATS COLOMBO in the 5.00 at Redcar today at around 7/1

Progressive from a low level, main angle is the sire is a lot better on soft/heavy than anything else.

Should improve for the ground if it doesnt still has a chance fav look to short to me and not particularly worried about anything else in there.



PU something wrong there


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 10, 2013, 08:34:29 PM
Like SPATS COLOMBO in the 5.00 at Redcar today at around 7/1

Progressive from a low level, main angle is the sire is a lot better on soft/heavy than anything else.

Should improve for the ground if it doesnt still has a chance fav look to short to me and not particularly worried about anything else in there.



I backed this too Horse, the only good thing is if I had seen your post before the race I would probably have had more on. I hope it was ok.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 11, 2013, 08:43:44 AM
Like SPATS COLOMBO in the 5.00 at Redcar today at around 7/1

Progressive from a low level, main angle is the sire is a lot better on soft/heavy than anything else.

Should improve for the ground if it doesnt still has a chance fav look to short to me and not particularly worried about anything else in there.



I backed this too Horse, the only good thing is if I had seen your post before the race I would probably have had more on. I hope it was ok.



Yes me to did not look great :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 12, 2013, 10:06:43 PM
Want to put up a horse for discussion and hopefully get some views from more knowledgeable horse punters than myself.  I browse other sports betting forums and came across some strong support for Noble protector in the 4:50 at sandown tomorrow.  To paraphrase, won last time out very well, second won next time out, best prices 4/1 but only 9/4 with willhill, the WH price is beleived to be closer to the true price, good draw.

Obviously its unexposed as it is only its third run tomorrow, a new jockey in Queally is a positive to my eyes, up in class from its maiden, and also the horse who finished second in its last race than then went on to win only won a class 5, this is a class 4.  Won at this distance.

Personally I think tht 4/1 is a bit too big, im not convinced it is a 9/4 shot either though.  Anyway i've backed it, im not trying to pursuade others to back it just yet, considering it's not fully my own view.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 13, 2013, 09:41:16 AM
got the best price anyway mate

looks a more than fair mark based on that maiden win to me think the handicapper has been pretty lenient with the mark maybe because it is a smaller trainer?

anyway good luck hope it wins for you



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 13, 2013, 12:04:42 PM
Not shortened as much as i thought due to a couple of others in the field shortening.  I guess there may be concerns over the ground, also being upped in class. Still i remain fairly positive and if i don't like it so much nearer the time and the price remains similar to now i can always lay it off. 

Also had a go on orpsie boy in the last at wolves, followed him for awhile (to my expense) but his mark keeps going down, pretty sure its going to pop up sometime soon, hopefully today will be the day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 13, 2013, 05:15:00 PM
No joy , went off at 5/2 in the end.  Didn't get to watch the race so not sure if it is worth following or not. 

Anyway i see an old one of Adz popped up in sir reginald at Doncaster.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 13, 2013, 11:06:54 PM
Half interested in Milly's Gift at Bath (5.40) tomorrow. And very interested if there's any money around.

She hasn't done anything like as well in three turf starts as on the AW but fast ground probably wouldn't have suited and this is a much easier race. Cox has two in the race and Ryan Tate rides this one. Worth a look in the morning.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 13, 2013, 11:21:44 PM
No joy , went off at 5/2 in the end.  Didn't get to watch the race so not sure if it is worth following or not. 

Anyway i see an old one of Adz popped up in sir reginald at Doncaster.

Was first under pressure then stayed on to look half dangerous before plodding on to finish mid div

Probably the ground and there is something there i think worth another go on a sounder surface if a fair price


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 13, 2013, 11:40:07 PM
No joy , went off at 5/2 in the end.  Didn't get to watch the race so not sure if it is worth following or not. 

Anyway i see an old one of Adz popped up in sir reginald at Doncaster.

Was first under pressure then stayed on to look half dangerous before plodding on to finish mid div

Probably the ground and there is something there i think worth another go on a sounder surface if a fair price

Agreed, didn't have an ideal draw tonight either out in stall 10, i got on it at 10s and i think it went off around 5/1 so there was some support for it.  I dont see it being a huge price if it runs in the same type of race but i think it  has a win in it on this mark fairly soon.

So far on mr impatient tomorrow, well supported last time and likes soft ground, bit of money around for it today too it seems.

Will check on chompy's selection in the morning, and if anyone else has some some fancies we could try and get this thread going again.

If anyone can figure out the 2:40 at doncaster then please post. A few bookies going top 5 1/4 odds which has to be good if you can get top price with them on a decent horse.  I remember reading that Monsieur Chevalier used to have some useful form but hasnt been at his best lately after a break and could be a big sweat.  Other than that I quite like both the Omeara horses and i also beleive huge taylor put up magical macey previously on the basis it likes soft ground.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 13, 2013, 11:47:41 PM
Pricewise put up Doc Hay  @ 12-11/1 and Angels Will Fall @ 25/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 13, 2013, 11:56:52 PM
Pricewise put up Doc Hay  @ 12-11/1 and Angels Will Fall @ 25/1

Fair bit of support for both I see, prob have to throw a couple darts at this race and hope to hit! Looks like Doc hay is the most likely of the omeara two then, backed up with having tudhope on it.

Undecided on monsieur chevalier, won some class 1s back in the day, down to a mark of 96 and was rated as high at 115.  Doesn't seem like a positive jockey booking though and the draw isn't ideal.  Likes the going and the distance though.  Maybe best watched tomorrow but could be one for the tracker.

Edit: just read on the RP that Ogorman has a 40% strike rate with horses wearing blinkers for the first time, assume he is wearing blinkers for the first time or i'm not sure what they would have put that stat up!  Talking myself into it here abit lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 12:01:31 AM
Pricewise put up Doc Hay  @ 12-11/1 and Angels Will Fall @ 25/1

Fair bit of support for both I see, prob have to throw a couple darts at this race and hope to hit! Looks like Doc hay is the most likely of the omeara two then, backed up with having tudhope on it.

Undecided on monsieur chevalier, won some class 1s back in the day, down to a mark of 96 and was rated as high at 115.  Doesn't seem like a positive jockey booking though and the draw isn't ideal.  Likes the going and the distance though.  Maybe best watched tomorrow but could be one for the tracker.

Anything he puts up gets hammered, not without good reason though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 14, 2013, 12:20:52 AM
id pay so much just to watch and listen to him go through a race


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 12:46:04 AM
id pay so much just to watch and listen to him go through a race

Best part of paying for the tipping in the RP is anything he posts/talks on.

FWIW he put your Leger pick up ante post.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2013, 10:57:33 AM
No joy , went off at 5/2 in the end.  Didn't get to watch the race so not sure if it is worth following or not. 

Anyway i see an old one of Adz popped up in sir reginald at Doncaster.



Made for a good day for me and Marky....drift to tens was heaven sent ;bigadz;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 11:05:59 AM
No joy , went off at 5/2 in the end.  Didn't get to watch the race so not sure if it is worth following or not.  

Anyway i see an old one of Adz popped up in sir reginald at Doncaster.



Made for a good day for me and Marky....drift to tens was heaven sent ;bigadz;

Good would have been nice, but I was quite happy to be saved from the disaster that was Channel 4 Racing


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 11:09:23 AM
The way Jim McGrath had poured scorn on its chances, I had already written it off. I suppose that's the owner's prerogative though, low expectations mean no disappointments...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 11:09:56 AM
No joy , went off at 5/2 in the end.  Didn't get to watch the race so not sure if it is worth following or not. 

Anyway i see an old one of Adz popped up in sir reginald at Doncaster.



Made for a good day for me and Marky....drift to tens was heaven sent ;bigadz;

Completely forgot about it, only noticed when i was browsing the results once i got in :(

Had a little play on Red Jazz, guy i follow pointed out he has form figures of 1212123 on ground good or softer and he felt 25s was over priced, at the time it beat betfair so i followed him in. (Doncaster 3:15)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2013, 11:17:39 AM
The way Jim McGrath had poured scorn on its chances, I had already written it off. I suppose that's the owner's prerogative though, low expectations mean no disappointments...

I saw the post race stuff, and could not believe my ears. Fahey has always said that it has poor feet and sting out of the ground had to help it. Would be the first time JMac put us away on his own horses chances tho.

Whilst we are on about cliff horses, Al Muheer has perfect conditions at Chester today, and hopefully Elusivity will finally deliver in the Portland over what looks a perfect trip.

Be lucky chaps.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 14, 2013, 11:26:37 AM
Does anyone have a view on the draw in the Portland, or Confessional's chances?

Easterby seems to have done a good job of getting down from a mark of 106 and then had to win a race it was pretty well backed for last week off 94 to get in here. Runs off 100 today but a view on the draw would be most welcome.

thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 12:00:07 PM
Half interested in Milly's Gift at Bath (5.40) tomorrow. And very interested if there's any money around.

She hasn't done anything like as well in three turf starts as on the AW but fast ground probably wouldn't have suited and this is a much easier race. Cox has two in the race and Ryan Tate rides this one. Worth a look in the morning.

Looks like the price is slowly shortening, enough money to make you very interested or not mate?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 12:03:44 PM
Does anyone have a view on the draw in the Portland, or Confessional's chances?

Easterby seems to have done a good job of getting down from a mark of 106 and then had to win a race it was pretty well backed for last week off 94 to get in here. Runs off 100 today but a view on the draw would be most welcome.

thanks

Seems the draw bias is towards the higer number stalls.  No real view on confessional though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 14, 2013, 12:11:51 PM
Does anyone have a view on the draw in the Portland, or Confessional's chances?

Easterby seems to have done a good job of getting down from a mark of 106 and then had to win a race it was pretty well backed for last week off 94 to get in here. Runs off 100 today but a view on the draw would be most welcome.

thanks

Seems the draw bias is towards the higer number stalls.  No real view on confessional though.

thanks mate,  haven't seen a race all week there as I am away so a  pity the draw might be no good. Will have a smaller bet instead.

cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2013, 12:12:45 PM
He certainly didnt win out of turn last week, and turned the race into a procession. Sometimes a win is all they need to go on a roll. If I was at the wedding last week, I would reinvest for sure, but I missed that so wont be on him this week.

From a pace angle, Bogart sure to be up there from 7. It always feels like something swoops from the wings in these massive fields but much of the field are finishers so it may play out differently, with a lurker like Confessional able to kick away before the rest get into gear...and each others way.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on September 14, 2013, 12:32:43 PM
ive been backing leading light all week in the st leger only bits and bobs , i dont think hes the most talented animal to come out of o,brien's yard but ive got a sneaking suspicion he could be one of the toughest , a rounded action and plenty of heart is enough for me to have a bet ... posting really to say all his races are on atr and going through them has been an education in how to bring a horse on , hes obvs out paced in his 1st run under heffernan and gets pushed along every yard of the 1m 1f by manning on his maiden win when only his stamina really comes through at the end to win going away , as a 3yr old o briens lad takes the reins and teaches him to front run , the horse enjoys this , so he slows it to a near stop and then quickens away again for an easy win after these lessons he goes on to grp races and harder oppos and outbattles the others to win,eye opening way to teach a horse about almost every situation hes gonna face in his races. He might not win today but iv quite enjoyed tracking his progress


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 12:43:26 PM
Half interested in Milly's Gift at Bath (5.40) tomorrow. And very interested if there's any money around.

She hasn't done anything like as well in three turf starts as on the AW but fast ground probably wouldn't have suited and this is a much easier race. Cox has two in the race and Ryan Tate rides this one. Worth a look in the morning.

See there has been a few nibbles today, what you thinking Chomps?



Think Ali mentioned Mister Impatience a while back on here?

He is Paul Kealy's pricewise extra selection today

When last running on this track he sauntered away with a handicap on the opening day of the season on soft ground, and it's somewhat of a surprise that he didn't go on from that.

That said, he was second to subsequent Derby winner Rule Of The World at Chester over this trip and fourth in the Queen's Vase, but for most of the summer he has been racing on the wrong ground.

Despite the official description last time at York, the ground was nearer good than soft and Mister Impatience will love conditions today.

This is some way weaker than the Melrose he ran in last time and he gets a handy 9lb weight for age allowance from some fully exposed older horses. The danger could be one-time Derby fancy Greatwood, but to geld a horse who had such high aspirations only a few months ago smacks of desperation.


Put up at 6/1 and there is still a bit of 5/1 about.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 12:51:26 PM
Backed mr impatient last night at 13/2 :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 14, 2013, 12:52:31 PM
Good day today

Already backed mr red clubs last night as per tft

Like AJJAADD in the portland and a rare occasion when Hugh can put a horse up and its price drifts or at least stays the same

Personally i would have the horse close to fav really like the claimer booked as well. Been trying to cut out backing in these kind of events so only a small bet at 14-1



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 12:56:04 PM
Backed mr impatient last night at 13/2 :)

Good luck us ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 01:03:23 PM
Backed mr impatient last night at 13/2 :)

Good luck us ;D

Yes indeed, today is starting to get a little out of hand, think it might be time to get ouso i can't add to my portfolio of bets todays lol



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2013, 01:36:01 PM
Good day today

Already backed mr red clubs last night as per tft

Like AJJAADD in the portland and a rare occasion when Hugh can put a horse up and its price drifts or at least stays the same

Personally i would have the horse close to fav really like the claimer booked as well. Been trying to cut out backing in these kind of events so only a small bet at 14-1




Might have a little save on him.

Ted Powell bought this horse in 2009 with this race as the objective, having won it a couple of times in the past as an owner. Last year missed out by 1 when missing the cut and been its objective all year. Decent form to boot


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on September 14, 2013, 01:59:21 PM
I'm on Ancient Cross at a big price today. Would be nice.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on September 14, 2013, 02:40:18 PM

I've taken the view that there's a bit more pace amongst the low numbers in the portland - so I've gone for burwaaz and confessional ew 5 places.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 14, 2013, 02:45:17 PM
I got on Milly's Gift last night. Nice steady nibbling today. Definitely like her.

No draw bias in the Portland.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 14, 2013, 02:45:50 PM
In the Portland, I seem to be on......

Confessional

Aajjaadd

Doc Hay

Secret Witness.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on September 14, 2013, 02:52:41 PM

No draw bias in the Portland.

pity the jocks didn't think that  ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 02:54:23 PM
Pricewise gets up, hope you got some marky!

Same trainer as Red jazz in the next, 365 still hold 25/1 which beats betfair.  Hopefully get a decent sweat for my money in that one, MC didn't break well in the last so that was no fun to watch for me


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 03:15:10 PM
Pricewise gets up, hope you got some marky!

Same trainer as Red jazz in the next, 365 still hold 25/1 which beats betfair.  Hopefully get a decent sweat for my money in that one, MC didn't break well in the last so that was no fun to watch for me

F5ing at 1950 on a Friday, so I get them as soon as they're posted :D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 03:27:38 PM
Could be much less profitable uses of your time on a friday night! 

Red jazz dissapointing after some market support.  Thats my two long shots out the way anyway, hopefully reddie steady bets pick in the st ledger does the job.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 03:31:59 PM
Could be much less profitable uses of your time on a friday night! 

Red jazz dissapointing after some market support.  Thats my two long shots out the way anyway, hopefully reddie steady bets pick in the st ledger does the job.

Be a perfect end to the televised racing if he does, Segal banged him up at 20s back in July :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 14, 2013, 05:48:00 PM
I think Chompy is actually my hero, everything i back of his turns to gold! 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Dewi_cool on September 14, 2013, 05:48:55 PM
ty ty Mr Chompy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 14, 2013, 05:49:24 PM
Incred scenes!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2013, 05:50:27 PM
Just bigged you up on wrong thread.

Star man ;tightend;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 05:51:08 PM
Oioi Chomps  ;tightend;

The pain of Excess Knowledge erased immediately!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on September 14, 2013, 05:53:02 PM
I think Chompy is actually my hero, everything i back of his turns to gold! 

I have a laminated picture of him for special occasions like now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2013, 05:53:50 PM
I think Chompy is actually my hero, everything i back of his turns to gold! 

I have a laminated picture of him for special occasions like now.


Dare I ask why its laminated?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 14, 2013, 05:58:10 PM
ty ty Mr Chompy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2013, 08:42:14 PM
Pricewise for tomorrow if anyone is interested, all races at Longchamp -


13:30 Longchamp - Triple Threat  1pt win at 8/1

14:40 Longchamp - Tasaday 1pt win at 9/1

15:10 Longchamp - Mandour 1pt win at 12/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 14, 2013, 08:45:13 PM
Pricewise for tomorrow if anyone is interested, all races at Longchamp -


13:30 Longchamp - Triple Threat  1pt win at 8/1

14:40 Longchamp - Tasaday 1pt win at 9/1

15:10 Longchamp - Mandour 1pt win at 12/1

You really ought to get your own bets on before posting those. Oh, wait.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 15, 2013, 12:39:09 PM
magic stuff with the beast at Bath Chompy.

great stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 15, 2013, 12:46:34 PM
Pricewise for tomorrow if anyone is interested, all races at Longchamp -


13:30 Longchamp - Triple Threat  1pt win at 8/1

14:40 Longchamp - Tasaday 1pt win at 9/1

15:10 Longchamp - Mandour 1pt win at 12/1

You really ought to get your own bets on before posting those. Oh, wait.....

Hopefully sharing will get me some karma points :)


Also, does anyone know a way to watch the racing at Longchamp?

I don't have access to ATR on Sky and the 'Bet & Watch' isn't available for these races.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Snowball on September 15, 2013, 12:50:08 PM
Pricewise for tomorrow if anyone is interested, all races at Longchamp -


13:30 Longchamp - Triple Threat  1pt win at 8/1

14:40 Longchamp - Tasaday 1pt win at 9/1

15:10 Longchamp - Mandour 1pt win at 12/1

You really ought to get your own bets on before posting those. Oh, wait.....

Hopefully sharing will get me some karma points :)


Also, does anyone know a way to watch the racing at Longchamp?

I don't have access to ATR on Sky and the 'Bet & Watch' isn't available for these races.
http://tykestv.eu/streams/horse-racing/at-the-races/


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 15, 2013, 01:01:02 PM
Pricewise for tomorrow if anyone is interested, all races at Longchamp -


13:30 Longchamp - Triple Threat  1pt win at 8/1

14:40 Longchamp - Tasaday 1pt win at 9/1

15:10 Longchamp - Mandour 1pt win at 12/1

You really ought to get your own bets on before posting those. Oh, wait.....

Hopefully sharing will get me some karma points :)


Also, does anyone know a way to watch the racing at Longchamp?

I don't have access to ATR on Sky and the 'Bet & Watch' isn't available for these races.
http://tykestv.eu/streams/horse-racing/at-the-races/

Ha, I use tykes for ATR/RUK during the week and they're normally very good.

They're rarely on at weekends though and today it is down too unfortunately.

I'll just have to wait for the ATR replays to upload to the site, they're normally pretty quick anyway, thanks m8.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Snowball on September 15, 2013, 01:06:14 PM
 Yeah it seems to be off more than its on at weekends and evening meetings.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 15, 2013, 01:38:18 PM
Yeah it seems to be off more than its on at weekends and evening meetings.



Can't complain at a free service, but it does grate when the channel switches halfway through the last race at a day meeting, and leaves some random football match on :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on September 15, 2013, 03:51:49 PM
tough crowd ..... getting it quietly :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 15, 2013, 03:57:04 PM
tough crowd ..... getting it quietly :)

Meant to congratulate you on your pick yesterday but clean forgot.  Loved the write up and the effort you put into tracking the horse, please keep them coming :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 15, 2013, 03:59:17 PM
tough crowd ..... getting it quietly :)


well done mate, lovely winner.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 15, 2013, 04:17:45 PM
tough crowd ..... getting it quietly :)

Remembered someone here was on that horse, but thought it was Tikay after they posted in Fred, congratulations on a nice scoop!

I was gutted by the fact that Excess Knowledge ran more like the 20/1 shot that I backed him at, and that my smaller bet on Talent suffered a ride through the bumper cars on his run at LL...

Don't think it would have mattered, but it's par for the course to feel a bit sorry for yourself :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 19, 2013, 11:23:14 AM
Know that a few here aren't too fond of Mr Spencer, it seems Luca Cumani isn't either...

http://www.rsn.net.au/audioplayer/1379541031.mp3


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 19, 2013, 11:33:44 AM
Know that a few here aren't too fond of Mr Spencer, it seems Luca Cumani isn't either...

http://www.rsn.net.au/audioplayer/1379541031.mp3


LOL. Best news for ages was hearing that Frank wont be on Mt Athos in the Melbourne Cup.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on September 19, 2013, 11:38:34 AM
Know that a few here aren't too fond of Mr Spencer, it seems Luca Cumani isn't either...

http://www.rsn.net.au/audioplayer/1379541031.mp3

How on earth did you find this Mark?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 19, 2013, 12:27:51 PM
Know that a few here aren't too fond of Mr Spencer, it seems Luca Cumani isn't either...

http://www.rsn.net.au/audioplayer/1379541031.mp3

How on earth did you find this Mark?

Someone tweeted the link to Hugh Taylor while I was waiting for the 5 minute warning this morning.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 21, 2013, 03:26:09 PM
Dear punting gods, please let Mass Rally win the big race.

Yours expectantly.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on September 21, 2013, 04:11:04 PM
Roll on the jumps season... that ride on saxo jack wouldve made Spencer proud.....grumble grumble


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 21, 2013, 04:13:32 PM
Roll on the jumps season... that ride on saxo jack wouldve made Spencer proud.....grumble grumble


 :redcard:


Careful. Spencer bashing police will be after you :tikay:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 21, 2013, 04:41:29 PM
Roll on the jumps season... that ride on saxo jack wouldve made Spencer proud.....grumble grumble

That and Hoku about summed my day up :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 26, 2013, 11:21:08 AM

26th September 2013
 
A Sky Bet punter was celebrating a £52,000 pay-out from a 25p each-way Lucky 31 at Redcar on Wednesday.

Beau Mistral (5/1) set the ball rolling when landing the Download The Racing UK App Handicap at 3.50 and 35 minutes later Ebony Express duly obliged at 8/1.

Auto Mac (12/1) was next up in the Racing Replay, All today's Racing Sky 432 Selling Stakes and when 20/1 pick Mercer's Row landed the first division on the Two Year Old Trophy Comes Next Handicap then the Leeds-based firm were running for cover.

There was nowhere to hide though and Lees Anthem's success in the second division at 6.05 sparked the huge pay-out.

Sky Bet Racing PR Manager Michael Shinners said: "Sometimes you have to doff your cap to a punter. To find those five winners at Redcar was a remarkable effort and while there were plenty of heads in hands in our trading room after Lees Anthem's success, I'm sure there were wild celebrations elsewhere!"



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 26, 2013, 11:27:32 AM
Read that this morning on the Sporting Life website, fair play to him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 26, 2013, 11:41:17 AM
Read that this morning on the Sporting Life website, fair play to him.

How on earth do they pick those 5 out?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 27, 2013, 08:12:52 PM
Read that this morning on the Sporting Life website, fair play to him.

How on earth do they pick those 5 out?

Sorry, missed this yesterday. I'm guessing he borrowed Tal's spider :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 27, 2013, 08:13:10 PM
Pricewise horses tomorrow are -

15:30 Hay - Demora (Paul Kealy's NAP too)

15:50 New - Educate and King George River


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 28, 2013, 02:31:41 PM
Like a few today backed them all most on Good Speech as per tft

Think Suegioo is overpriced today against some confirmed hold-up horses.  He's been held up himself the last twice, but it hasn't suited him and I fully expect Martin Harley to make more use of him today (he gave him a prominent ride the last time he rode him, and he has made the running this season).  Still think he's well handicapped and can gain a deserved win with the right ride if held up early i hate the bet

Good Speech has some excellent form to her name in 3-year-old handicaps, and can hopefully return to winning ways now she's back in against old horses.  72 under-rates her and the return to better ground will suit having looked to be hating every minute of the soft ground last time, running remarkably well in the circumstances in a better race under a poor ride.  She goes well here, is well drawn and should get the strongly-run 12f she needs - bold but i really expect her to win.

Have to back Vicky Valentine at 18/1+ at Chester tonight.  Lightly-raced, she won well enough last time and has proven herself in tactical affairs in small fields.  Edwyn Ralph was disappointing on his only start here, Eton Rambler might not settle off a slow early pace here and Gabrial The Master looks exposed.  Duke Of Yorkshire should be well suited by the demands of this contest too and looks worth a bet too, albeit at slightly less glamorous odds of 5/1.

Finally, Bantam paid the price for chasing an overly-strong pace set by Astonishing, but she showed how good she was the other day and there's no shame in that run.  She remains progressive and this track should suit her, unlike last time when she didn't look happy running downhill.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 28, 2013, 03:45:57 PM

I seem to have backed half the field in the Cambridgeshire, one way & another.

Red Avenger

Belgian Bill

Prince of Johanne

Seek Again

Dance & Dance.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 28, 2013, 04:05:01 PM

I seem to have backed half the field in the Cambridgeshire, one way & another.

Red Avenger

Belgian Bill

Prince of Johanne

Seek Again

Dance & Dance.


Easy game........

The Bookies took a right pasting on that, for sure.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 28, 2013, 04:18:47 PM
Pricewise horses tomorrow are -

15:30 Hay - Demora (Paul Kealy's NAP too)

15:50 New - Educate and King George River

They took a pasting on those two, hope some Blondes got on!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 29, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
Nero Emperor in 6f race at Curragh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 29, 2013, 12:24:17 PM
Thanks mate, one from your tracker?  Whilst i went to oddschecker to find it, i saw one i had to bet on in the first 'sparrow' - after cockney sparrow did the job last weekend, this is must be a cert lol.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Ironside on September 29, 2013, 12:25:47 PM
i dont know much about horses but while trying too get my ew lucky 15 on including sweet helena in the 16:30 at epsom today her price went from 15.0 into 7.5 in a matter on minutes

still some places offering 13.0 but price dropping on all the bookies according too oddschecker betfair price is 11.0

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/epsom/16:30/winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 29, 2013, 12:35:59 PM
i dont know much about horses but while trying too get my ew lucky 15 on including sweet helena in the 16:30 at epsom today her price went from 15.0 into 7.5 in a matter on minutes

still some places offering 13.0 but price dropping on all the bookies according too oddschecker betfair price is 11.0

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/epsom/16:30/winner

Alll i know about Espom from some help Redarmi and Chompy gave me awhile back is that it suits a specific type of running, got to grab the rail and go from the front for the best chance.  Especially suits horses who have won at the track before and know how to ride it.  If you search Xinbama (running today in that race funnily enough) you should find the replies from the two shrewdies mentioned above which could be helpful in picking out horses at Epsom when you do your research.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 29, 2013, 03:58:28 PM
Nero Emperor in 6f race at Curragh

 ;woohoo;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Ironside on September 29, 2013, 04:11:41 PM
sweet helena odds are still baffling me difted to 13.5 on betfair but into 6.0 on 365 and at 13.0 on stan james
havent see odds so wide on a single horse before

that is another question who decides what the starting price is ?
ia it an average of all the major bookmakers ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 29, 2013, 04:33:01 PM
Nero Emperor in 6f race at Curragh

 ;woohoo;


Booom, what a legend you are ! Cheers mate :) keep posting!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 29, 2013, 04:35:49 PM
Xinbama at 22s or brockleback at 12d for the great escape this weekend now after adz's, unfortunately missed Markys posts yday :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 29, 2013, 04:41:34 PM
Oisin comes up trumps again! Some boy he is


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 29, 2013, 06:19:20 PM
Nero Emperor in 6f race at Curragh

 ;woohoo;


Booom, what a legend you are ! Cheers mate :) keep posting!


Good lad. Glad someone got a bit. ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 29, 2013, 06:21:22 PM
haha certainly did, made up for my useless picks! Sparrow got second earlier, shame he wasn't quite good enough to do the business. Now your horse has given me some back, ive whacked it all back on channings NFL, last chance weekend getout!  If only i had done the 3 horses marky and yourself posted :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 04, 2013, 09:16:56 PM
Pricewise horses for tomorrow...

Ascot

14:40 - Gospel Choir @ 6/1

15:50 - Ascription @ 8/1
           Shamaal Nibras @ 25/1


Redcar

15:30 - Trading Profit @ 9/1
            Omaha Gold @ 33/1


Longchamp

13:30 - Darbadar @ 6/1

14:08 - Siyenica  @ 14/1



1pt win advised for all selections



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 09, 2013, 10:08:23 PM
As it seems I am the only one left with a fully functioning PP account...albeit, the wifes, thought best post this one here, as wasted on Fred!!

Tadalavil 2.40 Ayr

12s with PP.

Also been waiting for The Potting Shed to go chasing. Better ground should also help.

Looks to be in a weak little handicap to start 2.30 Worc

8-1 365.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 10, 2013, 01:20:52 PM
good luck adz

been nibbling away at a couple in the ces at the weekend

Old "friend" Brockwell is still fair value at 20's rarely runs a bad race looks big at nearly double price of oriental fox

Have backed Sohar at 50's today (Skybet going 5 places if you can) had excuses last twice not convinced it can win this but best career run over this course looks well handicapped from 80.

Will also add Moidore if rain looks like arriving friday evening, has no chance on good or quicker ground as is just a grinder but is well handicapped on earlier season form with a few near the top of the market


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 10, 2013, 01:38:08 PM
8/1 looking tidy now Adz!

good luck adz

been nibbling away at a couple in the ces at the weekend

Old "friend" Brockwell is still fair value at 20's rarely runs a bad race looks big at nearly double price of oriental fox

Have backed Sohar at 50's today (Skybet going 5 places if you can) had excuses last twice not convinced it can win this but best career run over this course looks well handicapped from 80.

Will also add Moidore if rain looks like arriving friday evening, has no chance on good or quicker ground as is just a grinder but is well handicapped on earlier season form with a few near the top of the market

Ben Hutton from the RP put up Sohar as an EW selection himself, along with Poyle Thomas too.

Anyone that doesn't have a Sky account can get 50/1 5 places with BMU


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 10, 2013, 02:51:23 PM
As it seems I am the only one left with a fully functioning PP account...albeit, the wifes, thought best post this one here, as wasted on Fred!!

Tadalavil 2.40 Ayr

12s with PP.

Also been waiting for The Potting Shed to go chasing. Better ground should also help.

Looks to be in a weak little handicap to start 2.30 Worc

8-1 365.





One out of two acceptable. Shed well punted too.

Tad lost before it started, as ground had dried out, and price reflected that.

Profit though for those that follow!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on October 10, 2013, 03:46:12 PM
As it seems I am the only one left with a fully functioning PP account...albeit, the wifes, thought best post this one here, as wasted on Fred!!

Tadalavil 2.40 Ayr

12s with PP.

Also been waiting for The Potting Shed to go chasing. Better ground should also help.

Looks to be in a weak little handicap to start 2.30 Worc

8-1 365.





One out of two acceptable. Shed well punted too.

Tad lost before it started, as ground had dried out, and price reflected that.

Profit though for those that follow!!

Couple of those a week wouldn't go a miss, thanks very much Adz.  ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on October 10, 2013, 06:39:28 PM
As it seems I am the only one left with a fully functioning PP account...albeit, the wifes, thought best post this one here, as wasted on Fred!!

Tadalavil 2.40 Ayr

12s with PP.

Also been waiting for The Potting Shed to go chasing. Better ground should also help.

Looks to be in a weak little handicap to start 2.30 Worc

8-1 365.





One out of two acceptable. Shed well punted too.

Tad lost before it started, as ground had dried out, and price reflected that.

Profit though for those that follow!!

well done, unf bet£3.65 won't play with me....    :'(



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 10, 2013, 08:43:42 PM
20 runner apprentice race over 7f. LOOOOOOOL, you gotta be kidding!!!

Oh dear.

Been waiting for Mon Brav to run back over 7f for ages.

Won over course, and seems to finish each 6f race like this will be ideal. At the general 14s available I just have to mention it. EW must


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on October 10, 2013, 11:04:23 PM
Nice win today Adz, i missed both unfortunately. 

Any views on oriental fox for the cesarewitch?  We know it stays and Murtagh is back on for the ride, he is in ridiculous form of late and i'm guessing he could have had any number of rides? so it's a positive that he is sticking with it after his last win.

Orpsie boy runs tomorrow in the 6:10 at wolves.  Career low mark, 22 races without a win.  I didn't think it ran well last race, but showed promising signs before that.  Last race was a class 5, back down to class 6 again today.  Same course and distance they keep trying it over.  Drawn low which is a positive, Luke Morris keeps the ride after last time which in my mind is another positive, must think it has a chance if he is back on board after last time? Obviously its long losing run is a negative, at 12/1 im happy to take a little punt.  If they can't get it to do the business tomorrow, I think its time to give up and forget about its falling mark and delete him from the nagme. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 11, 2013, 01:24:08 AM
Mr Sparrow.
These sound like ice creamy traits you have developed, falling in love with a horse etc and backing it til it wins.......tut tut( never expose yourself so publically, always keep it off blonde ;0)).

As a long time OB fan it has to be last chance saloon time. I thought he had everything in his favour last time tbh, and he never showed up, in all honesty I must question the wisdom.

OF very impressive last time. Sadly I rarely get Mark Johnno right, and feel lucky to have got a few bob from him last time when the maestro was on him. I won't be following up and will be hoping rain stays away as I am on Domination at nice prices.

GL mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on October 11, 2013, 07:42:23 AM
Mr Sparrow.
These sound like ice creamy traits you have developed, falling in love with a horse etc and backing it til it wins.......tut tut( never expose yourself so publically, always keep it off blonde ;0)).

As a long time OB fan it has to be last chance saloon time. I thought he had everything in his favour last time tbh, and he never showed up, in all honesty I must question the wisdom.

OF very impressive last time. Sadly I rarely get Mark Johnno right, and feel lucky to have got a few bob from him last time when the maestro was on him. I won't be following up and will be hoping rain stays away as I am on Domination at nice prices.

GL mate

I don't think I'm developing ice cream traits, I've always had them lol.  Definitely improving on it though but you are right, I should not follow horses as often as I do, part of the learning curve that I haven't quite got over yet.  I haven't put any money on the fox yet, orpsie is carrying a few of my ££ though and it will be his last chance !


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 11, 2013, 08:01:17 AM
See, for all my good intentions I will have too now as well!!! Gl mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 11, 2013, 09:32:54 AM
well done yesterday adz

not sure i trust oriental fox to do it again on Saturday especially at a similar price to last time in a much tougher race?

As for orpsie boy think i said before never get Carr right so i leave her alone horse looks to have lost its spark though? Never put anyone of a double figure priced horse saying that


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 11, 2013, 10:12:04 AM
had pennies on JUSTONEFORTHEROAD today at York

Based on last run looks back in form, likes the track, the ever softening ground is a bonus, well handicapped and i really like Samantha Bell as a claimer (Seems to have settled in with Fahey now after a slow start)

small bet at 20's ish


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 11, 2013, 11:00:36 AM
Hugh has just put up Sohar as we;ll so at least should have a value loser tommorow evening :)

As he states looks like the rain will be hitting hq so i have had my final ces bet on moidore


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 11, 2013, 11:12:42 AM
Hugh has now put up Moidore as well :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 11, 2013, 11:33:34 AM
Hugh has now put up Moidore as well :(

Hugh is definitely 'due' that's for sure. I've been following him for the last month and it's been very cold!

He posted himself the other day that this year was his best ever until the last 4 weeks, which have been abysmal and he had his first winner over that period on Tuesday.

That said, he has been pretty unlucky a few times, the most memorable being Chrissycross - a 12/1 shot that pulled 5 lengths clear to lose by less than a neck.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 11, 2013, 11:36:03 AM
I didnt mean it to sound negative he had put up Moidore just the fact the price would go before i could get on which it has

Think he had a winner in the week at Wolver?




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 11, 2013, 12:06:25 PM
I didnt mean it to sound negative he had put up Moidore just the fact the price would go before i could get on which it has

Think he had a winner in the week at Wolver?



Gotcha, hopefully they'll ease them again in the morning so you can get the better price.

Yes, he had a winner at Brighton on Tuesday and that was the first for about 3 weeks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 11, 2013, 09:19:24 PM
Pricewise horses tonight were -

Newmarket

14:05 - Trumpet Major @ 11/1

15:50 - Tiger Cliff @ 12/1


York

15:30 - Baccarat @ 8/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on October 11, 2013, 09:33:28 PM
Pricewise horses tonight were -

Newmarket

14:05 - Trumpet Major @ 11/1

15:50 - Tiger Cliff @ 12/1


York

15:30 - Baccarat @ 8/1

Loving the Newmarket double.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 11, 2013, 10:21:01 PM
Pricewise horses tonight were -

Newmarket

14:05 - Trumpet Major @ 11/1

15:50 - Tiger Cliff @ 12/1


York

15:30 - Baccarat @ 8/1

Loving the Newmarket double.

Liking the Trixie, but don't tell Tikay ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 12, 2013, 01:56:25 PM
lack of rain a big worry for me 3 bar brockwell


cant see how sohar or moidore will be quick enough to win now hopefully sneak into the places behind brockwell :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 12, 2013, 03:49:09 PM
Hard to believe there's ever been a worse big-name jump jockey than R.Johnson. Guy is an insta-lay on anything short at the moment.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 12, 2013, 04:06:29 PM
Were the jocks told that The Ces is now a 2m race?

Bizarre how early all the big guns went for home. V odd


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 12, 2013, 04:10:44 PM
would not have picked that with 32 free bets


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 12, 2013, 04:14:45 PM
Where did pallasator actually finish?! I'm quite confused I thought I'd lost but seems I haven't...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on October 12, 2013, 04:16:20 PM
Should have taken the hint when No Leaf Clover wouldn't respond to my shouting at the telly


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 12, 2013, 04:18:58 PM
Where did pallasator actually finish?! I'm quite confused I thought I'd lost but seems I haven't...

5th mate, most bookies paying 5 places.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 12, 2013, 04:20:38 PM
Tiger Cliff travelled like a monster, but it looked like he had me on his back for the last 1/2 mile...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: SuuPRlim on October 12, 2013, 04:22:51 PM
Where did pallasator actually finish?! I'm quite confused I thought I'd lost but seems I haven't...

5th mate, most bookies paying 5 places.


sweet cheers Marky, yeh paddys have paiiiid me but I thought id missed it. GL everyone tyty


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on October 12, 2013, 06:02:43 PM
Hard to believe there's ever been a worse big-name jump jockey than R.Johnson. Guy is an insta-lay on anything short at the moment.

Made me smile. I agree. I have a share of a horse trained by Tim Vaughan and never rated Mr Johnson even though he'll be riding the horse this season no doubt :-(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 13, 2013, 06:48:58 PM
Got up late because I didn't realise there was any decent racing today...

Did the Ellison Pricewise horse with both of Hugh's picks in a treble, and also had his in a double too.

16:40 Curragh  - Montefeltro

16:45 Gdwood - Ashpan Sam

17:45 Gdwood - Myboyalfie


Great entertainment for £15, but I guess I'll have to keep saving for Vegas :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 14, 2013, 03:57:14 PM
Really like Samantha Bell.

Only had seven winners so far, four of them in the last week or so. She'll get plenty of rides next turf season if she keeps her 7lb.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 14, 2013, 04:01:14 PM
yep wins with the other ride on saturday and then 2 from 3 with one placed today

She is well worth following just wish i had looked at todays fayre now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 14, 2013, 04:03:07 PM
As it seems I am the only one left with a fully functioning PP account...albeit, the wifes, thought best post this one here, as wasted on Fred!!

Tadalavil 2.40 Ayr

12s with PP.

Also been waiting for The Potting Shed to go chasing. Better ground should also help.

Looks to be in a weak little handicap to start 2.30 Worc

8-1 365.




Put up a race too early, but I know a few kept the faith. She rode a cracker!! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 16, 2013, 02:15:27 PM
bit of a risky one this but anyway

LUPO DORO 4.50 NOTTS at about 16/1 win only

Very risky as basically failed to start the last twice, however Doyle back on board (1-1) good draw, trainer in bit better nick and form on this ground is 2321.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Snowball on October 16, 2013, 02:21:07 PM
bit of a risky one this but anyway

LUPO DORO 4.50 NOTTS at about 16/1 win only

Very risky as basically failed to start the last twice, however Doyle back on board (1-1) good draw, trainer in bit better nick and form on this ground is 2321.


Bet it in the Shops and wait to see if it traps before handing the slip over?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: gouty on October 16, 2013, 03:47:16 PM
bit of a risky one this but anyway

LUPO DORO 4.50 NOTTS at about 16/1 win only

Very risky as basically failed to start the last twice, however Doyle back on board (1-1) good draw, trainer in bit better nick and form on this ground is 2321.


Bet it in the Shops and wait to see if it traps before handing the slip over?
Hehe. I remember my phone punters doing that with Vodkatini. What an awkward animal that was.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 16, 2013, 04:49:41 PM
Haha.

Vodkatini. Always went to the local bookie with the least experienced staff whenever he ran. Happy days!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 16, 2013, 05:06:20 PM
Lovely time of year. Jumpers starting again and a few switchers.

Lie Forrit has his first run for Lucinda today in last at Wetherby. 6s last night looked worth a risk, not so much the 3s now, but if he puts his best foot forward, could be a horse to follow, now he is with a decent sized stable.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 16, 2013, 05:52:30 PM
Lovely performance, and a great SP, 13/2. Jubbly.....





 ;booder;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 16, 2013, 06:33:44 PM
Good shout mate!

How blessed are you?

Get the early price, but they throw in an extra point via a pre race drift!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 16, 2013, 07:11:44 PM
Lovely performance, and a great SP, 13/2. Jubbly.....





 ;booder;

Missed it obv. - expect a drink for not bokking ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on October 16, 2013, 07:16:15 PM
nice spot , could be a good season for the ladies ,lavelle, russell, sue smith and v williams all trainers i'll be following  this year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: gouty on October 17, 2013, 12:55:39 AM
Lovely time of year. Jumpers starting again and a few switchers.

Lie Forrit has his first run for Lucinda today in last at Wetherby. 6s last night looked worth a risk, not so much the 3s now, but if he puts his best foot forward, could be a horse to follow, now he is with a decent sized stable.
Very nice. Drifter in the shop too. So everyone came up trumps.





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 17, 2013, 11:25:33 PM
Captain Sunshine should be hard to beat in the 3.15 at Chelts tomorrow with Lavelle horses pulling up trees, but can't help thinking Restless Harry is worth a few bob at 20s plus.

Now he has lost the liability that is Henry Oliver, he already is better off, but he has a decent record fresh and Almost 2 stone lower than during his pomp.

As a front runner we should get a run.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 18, 2013, 09:35:54 AM
well done with lie forrit adz

gd lk today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 18, 2013, 03:37:31 PM
Oh well. Cant win em all.

Looks like Harry has just lost the plot. Very uninspiring.

Sadly the first one crossed off was the winner. Onwards


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 18, 2013, 09:59:36 PM
Pricewise picks for tomorrow are -

13:45 - Pale Mimosa

14:20 - Jack Dexter
         - Cape of Approval

16:05 - Morandi

16:45 - Intrigo


Anyone who reckons Champions Day 2013 isn’t living up to its billing is reading a different form book to me. The winners of the Derby, Oaks, 2,000 Guineas, St James’s Palace Stakes, Gold Cup, Prix de l’Abbaye and Lockinge are all in action, as is Cirrus Des Aigles, the second-best horse in the world last year and still a top-notch performer in 2013.

This is the best single day’s racing in Britain this season.

Best bet on the card could be Jack Dexter in the Qipco British Champions Sprint (2.20). Jim Goldie’s four-year-old relishes soft ground and has a good record at Ascot, with just about his best run coming when a close fourth in the King’s Stand over 5f in June. He ran a cracker in the Ayr Gold Cup last month, giving more than a stone to those who finished in front of him.

This is open, though, and Cape Of Approval looks another value play at 25-1. The Tommy Stack-trained four-year-old has twice beaten favourite Maarek this season and he ran really well from a dire draw at the Curragh two starts back on ground that would have been a shade too fast. A slow start, stall 18 and a fast 5f gave him no chance in the Prix de l’Abbaye last time, but he still shaped well.

Cirrus Des Aigles and Farhh set the standard on old form in the Qipco Champion Stakes (4.05), but the jury is still out regarding to how good Cirrus Des Aigles is these days, while Farhh is hard to keep sound and the speed he showed in the Lockinge might make this trip an issue after his absence. The drop in trip might just suit Ruler Of The World given the turn of foot he showed in the Derby, but preference is for French raider Morandi.

He has been beaten by Intello three times this season, but that one’s third place in the Arc tells us he’s the best three-year-old colt in Europe, so that’s no disgrace. Today’s trip on soft ground is perfect and, as his best form came in the autumn last year, he looks likely to give his running.

The plan was to have a couple of stabs at the Qipco Future Stars Apprentice Handicap (4.45) given it is a 29-runner handicap, but it looks nigh on impossible so I’ll stick with just Intrigo in that race and Pale Mimosa in the Qipco British Champions Long Distance Cup (1.45) for Dermot Weld.

There aren’t many better trainers of stayers than Weld and the fact he runs Pale Mimosa is a tip in itself. She looked in need of the outing when disappointing in the Irish Leger last time, but started much shorter than her stablemate, and runaway winner, Voleuse De Coeurs.

She clearly under-performed that day but, with that run under her belt, a much better performance should be expected. As for Intrigo, he will love the ground, and a strongly run 7f may enable him to return to the sort of form that saw him narrowly beaten by Heaven’s Guest at Epsom in June.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 19, 2013, 11:06:17 AM
Eleven mares in foal to Frankel including 2011 Oaks winner Dancing Rain will be part of Tattersall's December sale.

I wonder how much they might go for.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 19, 2013, 06:05:04 PM
Eleven mares in foal to Frankel including 2011 Oaks winner Dancing Rain will be part of Tattersall's December sale.

I wonder how much they might go for.

Bound to be one of them lump out 5m+ for one!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 19, 2013, 06:08:58 PM
Just said to Adz, some day I've had today!

13:45 - Harris Tweed

14:20 - Jack Dexter

14:55 - Belle De Crecy

15:30 - Top Notch Tonto

16:05 - Morandi

16:45 - Intrigo



 ;technophobe;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 22, 2013, 04:45:46 PM
Really quite keen on Lutine Bell in 6.40 at Kempton tonight.

Its one of those nearly horses that always leaves excuses to back it next time, but it has continued to drop in the handicap despite looking unlucky several times recently.

Last time out Hughes managed to go right instead of left at Kempton and ran into trouble and the book says he had done all his running. I dont think he had.

Dobbs is booked but Hughes is now on a NR(that was to be the saver) and I wouldnt be surprised to see Hughes put back on, and the price drop.

Not put it on TFT because he may not be genuine, but Im prepared to give him a try at 10s ew with Sporting Bet. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 22, 2013, 06:50:58 PM
Lost his race in the stalls by the look of it. Big line through that fella! Sorry bout that.

Onwards


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 24, 2013, 06:43:52 PM
You only get replies when they win mate ;)


Got lost in TfT, so thought I'd post here for your opinion Chomps

Never easy to get on with Laddies.

On a line through Kuban Krasondar, I make this one a good thang. 11/2 is just saveloy!

Ahoy There beat Island Remede by a neck last week over same distance in a Class 5 over 1m @ Notts.

Yesterday Island Remede won a Class 4 over 9f by 7 lengths at Newmarket.

You can probably interprete that better than I can, but it might be relevant somehow?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 24, 2013, 07:09:19 PM
I would be nice to get slagged off for the losers, at least you know someone's listening!

As for Chompys bet, sometimes you dont need collateral form to have a bet.

This horse won so easy last time despite getting into all sorts of trouble, it was a must bet til beat type entry in the tracker.

Mrs C emptyed her account at 11/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 24, 2013, 07:48:18 PM
I would be nice to get slagged off for the losers, at least you know someone's listening!

As for Chompys bet, sometimes you dont need collateral form to have a bet.

This horse won so easy last time despite getting into all sorts of trouble, it was a must bet til beat type entry in the tracker.

Mrs C emptyed her account at 11/2

I had intended to, but forgot ;D

Of course, but that Island Remede was incredibly impressive yesterday when it bashed up everything in that race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 24, 2013, 07:49:48 PM
Agreed. Once it set off in front rather than previous waiting tictacs, it was start counting time


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 24, 2013, 07:57:23 PM
Agreed. Once it set off in front rather than previous waiting tictacs, it was start counting time

The 9th furlong possibly helped, as it looked to be travelling best at the finish in the race Ahoy There won over 8.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 24, 2013, 10:50:21 PM
nurserys are not my thing but agree with chompy cant have ahoy there massively flattered by way the race panned out last time i feel


have had a small bet prodigality in the sprint at donny tommorow at 25's eway

good draw,form figures on this ground over this distance and class

2210013 not bad jockey  on 1210

obviously well out of form but no idea what it was doing in a group sprint last time had no chance


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 25, 2013, 07:30:31 PM
5th at 16/1

more value pie for dinner tonight


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 25, 2013, 08:41:56 PM
Pricewise horses -

Aintree

15:05 - Astracad



Doncaster

15:15 - Take Cover
         -  Pearl Blue

15:50 - Johann Strauss


Newbury

15:30 - Soviet Rock





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on October 26, 2013, 09:18:12 AM
two interesting ones for me today

in the racing post trophy although the most exposed in the race i think somewhat might take some pegging back in this if fanning is allowed a soft lead. If anyone has seen this horse run check out its knee action, should relish this ground on all evidence and i dont think there is a camelot in this line up, think 8/1 is very fair.

5.00 firebeam is a different horse on soft ground and i think will press matters from the front and prove too good at around 9/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 26, 2013, 01:00:13 PM
two interesting ones for me today

in the racing post trophy although the most exposed in the race i think somewhat might take some pegging back in this if fanning is allowed a soft lead. If anyone has seen this horse run check out its knee action, should relish this ground on all evidence and i dont think there is a camelot in this line up, think 8/1 is very fair.

5.00 firebeam is a different horse on soft ground and i think will press matters from the front and prove too good at around 9/2

Mate of mine subscribes to a service which gave him that Somewhat today, so I better chuck a saver on that and a cheeky couple quid on Firebeam too.

Good luck m8


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 26, 2013, 03:20:07 PM
Glad that McCoy isn't all that anymore  ;frustrated;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on October 27, 2013, 04:11:12 AM
two interesting ones for me today

in the racing post trophy although the most exposed in the race i think somewhat might take some pegging back in this if fanning is allowed a soft lead. If anyone has seen this horse run check out its knee action, should relish this ground on all evidence and i dont think there is a camelot in this line up, think 8/1 is very fair.

5.00 firebeam is a different horse on soft ground and i think will press matters from the front and prove too good at around 9/2

did you bet with a firm that gave you money back if both finish last!!! :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 28, 2013, 09:03:17 PM
had interests in two races tommorow

2.10 yarmouth typical yarmouth event like SILVER ALLIANCE at 12/1 (Always runs well here soft heavy ground fine) and HIDDEN TALENT  20/1 (showed nothing until getting soft for first time since racing in france last time, ran on well and i noted it was backed late from 50-1 to 25ish on betfair)

7.10 wolver NO WIN NO FEE (only unexposed runner in here good comeback last week) 5/1 with pp is a mythical though
:( with KNOWE HEAD 10/1 (ignore recent turf runs this is its bag)


have backed hidden talent as a single and the rest in cross doubles only



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 28, 2013, 10:02:58 PM
I expect the 5s with PP will go, got maxed at 30 on No Win

They punted it into 2-1 last week, when it was expected to need the run. Ran well despite missing break and taking the long route. I expect a similar gamble tomorrow


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 28, 2013, 10:15:40 PM
See Chompy is NWNF in the RP write up for the race too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 28, 2013, 10:23:08 PM
it ran like it needed the run but applebys very very rarely do need the run so i am a bit confused by that

anyway if it did or didnt should be more to come, not a bad event for a tuesday evening though certainly no gimme


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 29, 2013, 07:43:06 PM
sigh....again :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 29, 2013, 07:45:31 PM
no excuses there

no idea how they sent of knowe head that short mmm


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 29, 2013, 10:20:32 PM
Filthy filthy 4-1 the field Wolverhampton handicaps. Wouldn't ever touch these races, especially Saturday nights when the jockeys know most will be watching X Factor.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on October 29, 2013, 10:52:23 PM
might be off to nottingham races tomorrpw - any fancys?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 29, 2013, 10:58:47 PM
One I follow is Ace Master that is running in the 1430. It won last time out and likes plenty of cut in the ground.

West Coast Dream in the 1505 was put up by Hugh last week and withdrawn. There has been some money for it already tonight and that loves soft ground too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 30, 2013, 08:43:50 AM
I had in my tracker the appropriately named Lager Time in same race as West Coast Dream.

Before I get laughed outta Dodge look at its last two runs and tell me they were trying their best?!

They have changed jockeys to the kid that last won on him and worth a pound ew at 33s, just in case I'm not going completely mad. Have fun!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 30, 2013, 12:11:21 PM
Definitely prefer yours at the prices now, Adz!

I know it could be a case of Is 'insert trainer', but is Evans a real dodgepot?

I never seem to catch any of his horses right, but you always see his popping up at massive prices, and normally when I'm on something else :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 30, 2013, 12:22:19 PM
Not sure mate, but he runs most of his horses fairly regularly. If it was some One horse Willy, you could say the horse might not be fit etc etc, but Evans knows the time of day, and this horse is almost 50% win or place ratio, so based on last two efforts including the old, pretend look down when horse carries him into contention, bluff, I am happy to take a chance for a few shillings at 33s.

West Coast romps in!! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on October 30, 2013, 12:32:16 PM
Thanks guys but cant go now might have a wee nibble just in case.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 30, 2013, 01:33:54 PM
Definitely prefer yours at the prices now, Adz!

I know it could be a case of Is 'insert trainer', but is Evans a real dodgepot?

I never seem to catch any of his horses right, but you always see his popping up at massive prices, and normally when I'm on something else :D

certainly not bent

just runs them a hell of a lot (probably to much)

can mostly be found drunk at the wolver bar


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 30, 2013, 04:55:13 PM
Just standard poker player mentality, where I remember Evan's losers then ;D

Thought that Ace Master was there, but West Coast Dream blew the start...

Would have hurt a lot more if WCD had won, though!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2013, 01:46:21 PM
Breeders Cup.

Sure most of you will have spent your money following Horsey on TFT, but spent so much time on it might as well pen a few thoughts. Will start with tonight, and save tomorrows until the morning after a few reflections as draw bias may not be so damaging/track quicker or slower than thought etc. So Friday night

8.45 Mararthon.

looks a poor race and gets worse every year. Would love to see Jo Hughes win with London Bridge, but cant see it. Last year they went of like scalded cats and as the majority of US bred horses dont stay this far, it was carnage with a horse tailed off after a furlong winning easily in the end.

Blueskies will be up there and has a decent track record but never won this far, so may well set it up for a closer.

I like Pool Player, who has a touch of class having contested the Classic last year, and the biggest earner. Getting on a bit that didnt stop the 9 year old winner last year. Hope to see him plod on when others has given up, probably followed by Worldly who is consistent and has Top Beyer speed figure, but rarely wins.

Pool Player  small interest at 11-1 with WH ew


9.25 Juvenile Turf

Our raiders are 3-3 at Santa A and we have clear top 3 on Beyer figures and see no reason to look any further.

On strict form line Outstrip has a few lengths in hand of Giovanni Boldini, but Outstrip looks like a terrier whereas Gio looks more elegant. I think the later may still be improving and just give him the edge

Giovanni Boldini 7/2 generally


10.05 Dirt Mile

stand out horse here is Verrazano, who is the class act. Ticks all the trend boxes but drawn a little wide, and has been known to bottle the big days. Won 6-8 but blew the K Derby. i cant have a bet in the race and not at least save on Verrazano.

However clear lead horse looks to be Alpha, who has a couple of G1 wins to his name, and with so many horse that seem to sit just off the pace, I am hoping he can stack them up and cause a bit of traffic behind and scoot clear of the home turn, as he stays further than this.

Alpha win only 18-1 Coral/VC

Verrazanno 7-2 Coral/Lads


10.50 juveniles Fillies Turf

With Lasix banned, it should suit the Euro team again.

I have been very impressed with Al thakira in her two races to date, and being trained by Marco Botti who's US record is 3-6, it seems churlish to try and find something to beat her. Well drawn and with a decent Bayer figure, I am happy to have her on my side. Sure Fred has an interest in Vorda for the 1000G so will be looking for a big performance from her too, but i just prefer AT

An outsider that took my eye was Sky Painter of Godolphins, who after a maiden win showed a decent turn of foot to almost get up against the far more experienced Testa Rossi. The fast ground and slingshot factor round the final turn may negate her wide draw.

Al Thakira 6-1 General

Sky Painter 16-1 VC bet


11.35 Distaff

Looking forward to this with The Queen in attendance, Royal Delta. Winner , I think at last two BCs, I am hoping to get her beat.

Race looking like Beholder will lead with Royal Delta stalking. Princess of Sylmar make look out of it after a furlong but she has been getting better at the start with each race. I hope that Beholder will set a pace and with RD in the slipstream will go too early and burn them both out and leave the way for PoS to slide on by in the last 10 yards or so. Having beaten them both before I am surprised she can be backed at 3-1.

Princess of Sylmar 3-1 Laddies


GL all and if we get some half decent results I shall try again tomorrow!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 01, 2013, 02:23:53 PM
g lk adz

like one at wolver as well tonight

6.20 SILVER FAWN 16/1

ran better than result after a longish break here last time (rider went 5 wide all the way) trainer does not have many winners but at 16/1 i have had a very small bet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2013, 06:55:16 PM
Breeders Yankee

The Fugue  22.22

Mucho Mucho Man  0.35(Last Race)

Al Thakira 22.50(tonight)

Sweet Reason 7.05

Horsey has bottled a recommend on TFT ;surrender;, but I shall have a good bet on Sweet reason. At 9/2 tempted to make it bigger and go ew. Just cant see it out of the 3.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 01, 2013, 06:58:37 PM
bottled it?

i put it as a bet a week ago Tikay was just busy and a few people took the out of line price

At 9/2 not much scope in the price for me obviously hope it wins as had a decent bet for me at 6's


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2013, 07:04:12 PM
LOl. Chill. Just a little banter. Its an exciting nite and I'm all excited!

I presume banter is allowed on here?!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 01, 2013, 08:01:55 PM
I'm quite sweet on The Fugue tomorrow too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on November 01, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
A favourite couple of nights for vegging on the settee and  throwing darts at horses I have never heard of, usually at big prices. All cash in the 9.25 seemed a tad over priced given it has close form with horses in the 12/1 and 14/1 range and seemed to be a little unlucky last time. Tho on RPR it needs to improve about a stone and there are probably a load of other reasons it is a big price but a small amount of Bobby bucks for summat to watch.

gl everyone and lets a have a few yeeeehaaa's between us


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2013, 09:00:08 PM
 ;booder;



LOL. The Brits didnt fancy it, it was working like a dog. Just couldnt do it.

Rule Britannia!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2013, 09:50:22 PM
Rule Brittania!

Right two. Wrong way.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2013, 11:03:06 PM
Rule Brittania!

Wrong one again.

Think I best stick to big field handicaps!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 01, 2013, 11:34:27 PM
Royal Delta @3.2 in the get out stakes for me tonight.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 02, 2013, 01:00:50 PM
Cracking Grade 1 'chase at Down Royal at 2.30pm.

Can hardy perennial Sizing Europe get three miles in this company?

If I can get 4/1 I'll be dabbling.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 02, 2013, 01:07:11 PM
Have backed Mount Benbullen, hoping he continues late season progress. Only really goes this way round and not many G1s to go for this way, so hoping he is ready.

Never mind when SE beats me tho, but always too short for me. GL Ralph


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on November 02, 2013, 01:11:58 PM
bottled it?

i put it as a bet a week ago Tikay was just busy and a few people took the out of line price

At 9/2 not much scope in the price for me obviously hope it wins as had a decent bet for me at 6's

What bet was that John, and is it still relevant at current prices?

As you note, I was a bit busy last weekend, and missed a ton of bets.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 02, 2013, 01:19:18 PM
bottled it?

i put it as a bet a week ago Tikay was just busy and a few people took the out of line price

At 9/2 not much scope in the price for me obviously hope it wins as had a decent bet for me at 6's

What bet was that John, and is it still relevant at current prices?

As you note, I was a bit busy last weekend, and missed a ton of bets.

Sweet Reason in the 1905 @ Santa Anita, Tikay.

Horsey put it up a couple days ago on Fred.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 02, 2013, 01:54:18 PM
Another reminder why I try to avoid Richard Johnson at all costs  ;frustrated;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on November 02, 2013, 01:57:14 PM
bottled it?

i put it as a bet a week ago Tikay was just busy and a few people took the out of line price

At 9/2 not much scope in the price for me obviously hope it wins as had a decent bet for me at 6's

What bet was that John, and is it still relevant at current prices?

As you note, I was a bit busy last weekend, and missed a ton of bets.

Sweet Reason in the 1905 @ Santa Anita, Tikay.

Horsey put it up a couple days ago on Fred.

OK Mark, thanks, will have a look for it later. Current price is 11/2.


http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/santa-anita/19:05/winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 02, 2013, 02:11:52 PM
bottled it?

i put it as a bet a week ago Tikay was just busy and a few people took the out of line price

At 9/2 not much scope in the price for me obviously hope it wins as had a decent bet for me at 6's

What bet was that John, and is it still relevant at current prices?

Think he recommended 15 or 20ew @ 6/1, so you're only 1/2 a point down, and Adz said he thought 9/2 might still be worth betting.
As you note, I was a bit busy last weekend, and missed a ton of bets.

Sweet Reason in the 1905 @ Santa Anita, Tikay.

Horsey put it up a couple days ago on Fred.

OK Mark, thanks, will have a look for it later. Current price is 11/2.


http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/santa-anita/19:05/winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 02, 2013, 02:39:39 PM
Didn't get matched on SE must be nailed-on now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 02, 2013, 07:25:26 PM
Wow. Is Alex Solis a girl?

What was all that about. Did he/she expect it to win on the bit?!

At least the Gooners are soothing the pain......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 02, 2013, 10:38:31 PM
Not a great O'Brien/Moore fan right now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 03, 2013, 01:01:33 AM
Betid 34858205200  Time: 20:17  Bet Type: 5 Fold  Stake: £ xx.xx
EVENT    SELECTION    PRICE    E/W TERMS    RESULT    STATUS
19:43 SANTA ANITA (USA)
Horse Racing Outright - Race
DANK    13/8    Standard EW terms apply    Won    Unsettled
21:05 SANTA ANITA (USA)
Horse Racing Outright - Race
MIZDIRECTION    7/2    Standard EW terms apply    Won    Unsettled
22:22 SANTA ANITA (USA)
Horse Racing Outright - Race
THE FUGUE    13/8    Standard EW terms apply    Placed    Unsettled
23:01 SANTA ANITA (USA)
Horse Racing Outright - Race
SECRET CIRCLE    6/1    Standard EW terms apply    Won    Unsettled
00:35 SANTA ANITA (USA)
Horse Racing Outright - Race
MUCHO MACHO MAN    4/1    EW 1/5 1,2,3    None    Unsettled



Fugue hurt quite a bit!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 03, 2013, 01:53:10 AM
Jesus that's sick :(

I had just been cursing the fact that the weight of my pony had stopped mine from getting up in the last, but that pales into insignificance after seeing that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 05, 2013, 01:39:31 AM
Thread for Flemington

http://tykestv.eu/streams/horse-racing/channel-4-racing/


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 05, 2013, 11:39:05 AM
Like two at Southwell today

1.40 HELLBENDER around 8/1 solid around here a mark of 66 is fine, last 4 starts here are good enough to close, last one a bit below par but usually runs a race around here

2.40 MODIFY 3/1ish a very rare maiden bet, awful race this half sister to southwell superstar Dubai Hills should handle the track. Has also not run in a race this bad yet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on November 05, 2013, 12:12:44 PM
Like two at Southwell today

1.40 HELLBENDER around 8/1 solid around here a mark of 66 is fine, last 4 starts here are good enough to close, last one a bit below par but usually runs a race around here

2.40 MODIFY 3/1ish a very rare maiden bet, awful race this half sister to southwell superstar Dubai Hills should handle the track. Has also not run in a race this bad yet

actually bet 2 in this race against you. Marked up both khajally and bassett roads runs last time after both being up with a hectic pace and sticking on well, mind you based on my last foray into this thread you should get in the queue.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on November 05, 2013, 01:53:03 PM
Like two at Southwell today

1.40 HELLBENDER around 8/1 solid around here a mark of 66 is fine, last 4 starts here are good enough to close, last one a bit below par but usually runs a race around here

2.40 MODIFY 3/1ish a very rare maiden bet, awful race this half sister to southwell superstar Dubai Hills should handle the track. Has also not run in a race this bad yet

 ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 05, 2013, 01:54:04 PM
Nice one Horsey!

Best delete some old PMs your fans will be going wild!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Bazzaboy on November 05, 2013, 02:02:50 PM
TY Horsey


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 05, 2013, 02:11:07 PM
My timing is epic at present... Congrats all who got on!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 05, 2013, 02:53:32 PM
thanks all

second one ran likes it needs 2 miles around southwell think Dubai Hills sire is more important for its love of southwell

anyway a decent day


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 05, 2013, 03:03:59 PM
Congrats horsey and with the melbourne cup pick!  I missed this one today and already had 2 in the melbourne cup, i'l be on the next winner though hopefully!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 05, 2013, 06:27:23 PM
Watching RUK tonight where they have James Willoughby in the studio, and he is waaaay too smart for me!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 05, 2013, 10:33:31 PM
hopefully at least 16 remain in the 1.00 at Notts tommorow

Have backed two each way

Main bet on DANZOE at 20's good draw, back down to a fair mark, responded well to pressure last time here and  ground conditions fine for this old stalwart

Secondary bet on BREEZOLINI at 8's again good draw, ran well on debut for pears last time and conditions are ideal.

Pull the Pin is a rightful fav but will not get an easy lead tommorow and as such might be there for the taking late on


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 06, 2013, 05:50:55 AM
6:30 Kempton - Echua.  Not raced for over 1000 days, irish trainer brining just 1 to kempton?  Backed in from 20/1 to 8/1 on bet365, just an observation, but looks abit sneaky to me!  I do like Evans gambles though, especially when the yard hits some form, had 2 winners the other day, both under Adam Kirby who has a great strike rate for Evans so Cabuchon is interesting to me in this race too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2013, 06:03:56 AM
6:30 Kempton - Echua.  Not raced for over 1000 days, irish trainer brining just 1 to kempton?  Backed in from 20/1 to 8/1 on bet365, just an observation, but looks abit sneaky to me!  I do like Evans gambles though, especially when the yard hits some form, had 2 winners the other day, both under Adam Kirby who has a great strike rate for Evans so Cabuchon is interesting to me in this race too.

Kirby rode a 4 timer last night at Kempton, but I missed the only one I was going to back because my dog was throwing a wobbly at the fireworks!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 06, 2013, 11:22:29 AM
now clear fav the irish horse! wonder if it has been flapping in all the time its been away?

Got some nice value in the 1.00 hope one of them cops


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on November 06, 2013, 12:03:34 PM
Watching RUK tonight where they have James Willoughby in the studio, and he is waaaay too smart for me!

Agreed Marky

Thought he came across well

Massive level of research time required on those sectionals


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 06, 2013, 01:16:28 PM
crossbar for a small loss


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 06, 2013, 02:12:27 PM
Ridic gamble on Echua now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2013, 03:59:42 PM
Watching RUK tonight where they have James Willoughby in the studio, and he is waaaay too smart for me!

Agreed Marky

Thought he came across well

Massive level of research time required on those sectionals

I think he's great to listen to, but a lot of it goes way over my head.

As you say, he must spend a lot of time researching all the sectional stuff, and he definitely loves the game!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2013, 04:00:10 PM
Ridic gamble on Echua now

Wonder if they'll be invited to withdraw the horse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 06, 2013, 04:10:54 PM
Ridic gamble on Echua now

Wonder if they'll be invited to withdraw the horse.

What do you mean by that mate? invited meaning politely asked aka told to withdraw it? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2013, 04:12:55 PM
Ridic gamble on Echua now

Wonder if they'll be invited to withdraw the horse.

What do you mean by that mate? invited meaning politely asked aka told to withdraw it? 

Happened last week somewhere, another Irish horse that had been sent over after not running for 2 years. Gambled from 33/1 down to single figures, so they BHA offered the trainer the option of withdrawing the horse, and then there was an investigation anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 06, 2013, 04:23:35 PM
Ridic gamble on Echua now

Wonder if they'll be invited to withdraw the horse.

What do you mean by that mate? invited meaning politely asked aka told to withdraw it? 

Happened last week somewhere, another Irish horse that had been sent over after not running for 2 years. Gambled from 33/1 down to single figures, so they BHA offered the trainer the option of withdrawing the horse, and then there was an investigation anyway.

Ah i see.  If there is going to be an investigation regardless then if i was the trainer/owner i'd keep it in now the money was down.  After doing abit more research i came across this:

" this horse is having his first run for new connections. The Irish trainer Emmet Butterly has sent over 18 horses to British AW tracks and 6 have won, while the new owner DJ Doland also owns Scary Movie who was sent over here to win twice at Kempton back in March. "


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2013, 05:53:03 PM
Ridic gamble on Echua now

Wonder if they'll be invited to withdraw the horse.

What do you mean by that mate? invited meaning politely asked aka told to withdraw it? 

Happened last week somewhere, another Irish horse that had been sent over after not running for 2 years. Gambled from 33/1 down to single figures, so they BHA offered the trainer the option of withdrawing the horse, and then there was an investigation anyway.

Ah i see.  If there is going to be an investigation regardless then if i was the trainer/owner i'd keep it in now the money was down.  After doing abit more research i came across this:

" this horse is having his first run for new connections. The Irish trainer Emmet Butterly has sent over 18 horses to British AW tracks and 6 have won, while the new owner DJ Doland also owns Scary Movie who was sent over here to win twice at Kempton back in March. "

I think I would be more inclined to withdraw than run, regardless. They told him they would investigate after the race, at which point he withdrew, and then they said they were going to investigate anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 06, 2013, 06:44:54 PM
V unlucky Master Sparrow. Very good spot indeed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 06, 2013, 06:47:13 PM
Close one, i'l get a winner soon :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 07, 2013, 11:39:47 AM
Interesting one tonight.

West Leake Diman 6.50 @ Wolves 15/2 VCbet.

Just moved to Kenny Daglishs stable and got the sheepskin on for the first time, could all freshen him up. Abso chucked in on old form and a few shillings flying about for him. Worth a win only. Looks like a total boom or bust job. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 07, 2013, 11:40:09 AM
ul a

like LYBICA again today in last at lingfield 10/1 is fair

backed it last time and ran really well considering seemed to hate heavy ground (very weak in market)

last all weather win is very strong form this is a good race so just a small bet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 07, 2013, 03:26:42 PM
How on earth did he get that up?

Incred!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 07, 2013, 07:05:45 PM
Interesting one tonight.

West Leake Diman 6.50 @ Wolves 15/2 VCbet.

Just moved to Kenny Daglishs stable and got the sheepskin on for the first time, could all freshen him up. Abso chucked in on old form and a few shillings flying about for him. Worth a win only. Looks like a total boom or bust job. GL

BUST....

Backed nicely. Led, looked fine, got company, faded, finished last!!

Apols if u were on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 08, 2013, 11:06:21 AM
lybica strangely was still keen quite well backed all day as well strange flat effort


Have backed two for the November handicap tommorow

Main bet is COMMUNICATOR at 20's, done very little all season after finishing second in this last year until last time at Chester when definitely showed signs of life and was generously dropped 3lbs. Now 3lbs lower than last year this could have been the long term aim.

Saver on AITKEN at 16'sis 3/3 in handicaps will find this a lot easier and Gosden does not use headgear unless its for a reason




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 08, 2013, 09:23:11 PM
Pricewise Horses for tomorrow are -


Doncaster

14:25 - Mass Rally @ 12/1

15:35 - Rhombus @ 12/1 Boyle 10/1 Gen
         - Forgotten Hero @ 16/1


Wincanton

14:40 - De La Bech @ 9/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 11, 2013, 12:13:44 PM
A few have taken my eye at Carlisle today,

Imperial Vic  2.25

Rockawango  1.50

Politeness  3.00  25-1 with VC looks tidy ew

and for Marky

Extelar 12.45


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 11, 2013, 01:02:12 PM
First two home carry 10st. Not a day for top weights!! Great! :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 11, 2013, 01:24:07 PM
Ha, followed that one over the cliff!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 11, 2013, 01:45:16 PM
Ha, followed that one over the cliff!


Could never have looked myself in the mirror if I didnt stick that donkey in and he won!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 11, 2013, 03:03:53 PM
Ha, followed that one over the cliff!


Could never have looked myself in the mirror if I didnt stick that donkey in and he won!!

:)

I burdened politeness with my money, so good luck us


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 13, 2013, 03:31:04 PM
See Echua won yesterday @ 3/1, but no gamble on it, which was very surprising, as it was one of Hugh Taylor's picks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 13, 2013, 07:50:11 PM
See Echua won yesterday @ 3/1, but no gamble on it, which was very surprising, as it was one of Hugh Taylor's picks.

Yeah i saw that too, but somehow missed it until i was looking through the days results on the on the racing post app. Very strange no one gambled it after the money last time out and Hugh putting it up.  Hopefully you or some others managers to get on :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 13, 2013, 07:59:57 PM
3-1 plenty short enough for a horse highly likely to "bounce" and dropped down 4f.

Won well enough though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 14, 2013, 12:41:57 AM
I know it's a tough race but I'm quite sweet on Rajdhani Express in Saturday's PP Gold Cup @ 12/1 EW 1-2-3-4, a young horse which keeps improving, acts on G,G/S and is probably overpriced due to having young Waley-Cohen on board.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 14, 2013, 01:20:22 AM
3-1 plenty short enough for a horse highly likely to "bounce" and dropped down 4f.

Won well enough though.

His picks rarely go off at the price he puts them up at, that's all I meant, and this one did.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 14, 2013, 01:23:16 AM
I know it's a tough race but I'm quite sweet on Rajdhani Express in Saturday's PP Gold Cup @ 12/1 EW 1-2-3-4, a young horse which keeps improving, acts on G,G/S and is probably overpriced due to having young Waley-Cohen on board.

I ploughed into Adz's selection, before it caved in thankfully. As I wouldn't be too keen to get on a 6-1 shot in a race like that.

I know that he is no McCoy, but does he not get a lot more stick than is warranted?





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 14, 2013, 08:35:07 AM
much improved since becoming a Father imo



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 14, 2013, 09:07:50 AM
much improved since becoming a Father imo




1 winner since start of new season in April......I'm not so sure!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 14, 2013, 09:26:38 AM
I know it's a tough race but I'm quite sweet on Rajdhani Express in Saturday's PP Gold Cup @ 12/1 EW 1-2-3-4, a young horse which keeps improving, acts on G,G/S and is probably overpriced due to having young Waley-Cohen on board.

I ploughed into Adz's selection, before it caved in thankfully. As I wouldn't be too keen to get on a 6-1 shot in a race like that.

I know that he is no McCoy, but does he not get a lot more stick than is warranted?





I'm assuming Adzy put up John's Spirit after it won last time.

I think it needs a couple to come out to get a run as the max field is 20.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 14, 2013, 09:30:10 AM
much improved since becoming a Father imo




1 winner since start of new season in April......I'm not so sure!

from at most 12 or so rides?

Looked fine in a race in the other day i caught, anyway he has always been on the horse so the form it has shown to make it a 10's shot in here is with him on it.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 14, 2013, 09:50:41 AM
had a few small cross doubles in the last 3 at southwell today

vitznau or mazovian

moorhouse lad or ruby day

rambo will or flash city


just for pennies very tough southwell card today imo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 14, 2013, 10:15:21 AM
much improved since becoming a Father imo




1 winner since start of new season in April......I'm not so sure!

from at most 12 or so rides?

Looked fine in a race in the other day i caught, anyway he has always been on the horse so the form it has shown to make it a 10's shot in here is with him on it.



Exactly

I think you have pretty much proven my point. You say he has improved, not sure how you can tell from 10 rides when he has only won one of them.

Nice info though on the baby!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 14, 2013, 03:00:39 PM
David johnson Memorial race at Chelts tomorrow.

Pretty sure Pipe wants to win this. Brooky had one entered but now runs Sunday as they are quite confident they have the right one tomorrow.

Top Gambler, 7s with WH when i got on a few mins ago. Probs be 3s tomorrow


For those not in the know DJ was Pipe biggest patron and this meeting was his favourite, so pretty sure they are keen to pay their respects!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 14, 2013, 05:09:31 PM
7/2, 4-1 best now. Hope a few got some.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 14, 2013, 05:32:36 PM
Only just seen this, but nice work on the big price Adz, call me a mug taking the 4's but you sound pretty confident  so i've had a go at the smaller price


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 14, 2013, 06:42:09 PM
I saw some 5/1 when I looked but not with a book that I can get on with.

GL to those who are on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 15, 2013, 08:59:03 AM
Am at the Paddy Parrr tomorrow (no monacle, Adz).

Any thoughts on the day most welcome. Was looking at Dynaste until the weather intervened.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 15, 2013, 09:11:01 AM
Am at the Paddy Parrr tomorrow (no monacle, Adz).

Any thoughts on the day most welcome. Was looking at Dynaste until the weather intervened.



Its ok Tal, we all know now you are Faux posh. I would offer to meet up but sure you will be in the Best Mate.....


Will PM you one later when I get back from today. I think he is thrown in but need to speak to a few people.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 15, 2013, 10:17:04 AM
Am at the Paddy Parrr tomorrow (no monacle, Adz).

Any thoughts on the day most welcome. Was looking at Dynaste until the weather intervened.



Its ok Tal, we all know now you are Faux posh. I would offer to meet up but sure you will be in the Best Mate.....


Will PM you one later when I get back from today. I think he is thrown in but need to speak to a few people.

Ha!

Not quite the Best Mate, but I'm sure we can miss each other even in the Tats ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on November 15, 2013, 10:18:07 AM
Trip to newcastle races today.
Any tips?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 15, 2013, 10:20:18 AM
Trip to newcastle races today.
Any tips?

Not very original but Serenity Now in the last (the fav) has improved again since its last run, looks quite a hot bumper for a newcastle one anyway

Straight from the owners mouth


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 15, 2013, 11:47:46 AM
Skybet are paying 5 places in the David Johnson


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 16, 2013, 04:28:06 PM
Wasn't sure at first, but over the last few weeks I've grown to actually like that Steve Mellish's punditry on RUK.

Don't go so much on the other guy who was working with him today though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 17, 2013, 11:18:41 AM
Hurricane Fly is getting a right coating on ATR from some old fool.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on November 21, 2013, 12:10:34 PM
Looking forward to tomorrow.

I've got a share in King Rolfe running in the 1.55 at Haydock.

Looks a really tough race though.

King Rolfe has nice breeding and won a PTP in Ireland beating the likes of Timesremembered before we bought it.

It ran well at Stratford winning in its first race this season.

Its a young horse but has potential.

A top 3 finish would be a result I think, should be an exciting day out though!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 21, 2013, 03:19:55 PM
Looking forward to tomorrow.

I've got a share in King Rolfe running in the 1.55 at Haydock.

Looks a really tough race though.

King Rolfe has nice breeding and won a PTP in Ireland beating the likes of Timesremembered before we bought it.

It ran well at Stratford winning in its first race this season.

Its a young horse but has potential.

A top 3 finish would be a result I think, should be an exciting day out though!

That looks like a nice horse, you should get some fun sweats.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on November 21, 2013, 04:18:06 PM
I hope so, only 5 runners tomorrow, he's a 12/1 outsider. Be interesting to see how he competes.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 21, 2013, 04:41:09 PM
good luck rick


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 21, 2013, 04:44:02 PM
Think Adz meant to post this here, but ended up in the NFL thread :D


Many Clouds 2.30 Haydock tomorrow 9/2 with VC. Get on quick!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on November 21, 2013, 04:50:08 PM
good luck rick

Thank you, some good horses to beat looking at the field.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on November 23, 2013, 09:28:50 AM
Got completed outclassed at Haydock yesterday.

The horse needs a longer trip (two and a half miles plus) and a step down in class.

At least I back the winner, Zamdy Man looked to have the form and looked awesome in the parade ring.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 23, 2013, 12:10:24 PM
Got completed outclassed at Haydock yesterday.

The horse needs a longer trip (two and a half miles plus) and a step down in class.

At least I back the winner, Zamdy Man looked to have the form and looked awesome in the parade ring.



One for the tracker then :)

Nice touch with Zamdy, Rick.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 23, 2013, 12:11:39 PM
Master of the Sea today, anyone?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 23, 2013, 12:43:05 PM
Two Rockers for me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 23, 2013, 12:49:53 PM
I'm going to have a reverse forecast with Dynaste and Bob's Worth in the big one, I think.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 23, 2013, 12:55:25 PM
Is there a harder race today to try and pick the winner Tal??!!

Twisters horses not firing puts me off, but the way he developed last year well up to the task. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 23, 2013, 12:57:01 PM
Is there a harder race today to try and pick the winner Tal??!!

Twisters horses not firing puts me off, but the way he developed last year well up to the task. GL

I likes a challenge, me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 23, 2013, 02:41:42 PM
Going well...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 23, 2013, 03:40:29 PM
What a great race that was.

I had a free £25 bet and was between Dynaste and Cue Card.

Obviously I had it on Dynaste but in better news I do have Cue Card in five of my TTF lines and *ed in one. :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 23, 2013, 04:22:22 PM
What a great race that was.

I had a free £25 bet and was between Dynaste and Cue Card.

Obviously I had it on Dynaste but in better news I do have Cue Card in five of my TTF lines and *ed in one. :)

I had backed Dynaste too, and also had him in a double with Gevrey Chambertin :(

Thought the result was going to be great for a minute, but that was some performance from Cue Card.

Great interview with Colin Tizzard afterwards too, seems like such a good bloke.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 23, 2013, 06:17:33 PM
Two Rockers for me.


How many did you back mate?...... ;bigadz;

Lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 23, 2013, 06:33:35 PM
Two Rockers for me.


How many did you back mate?...... ;bigadz;

Lol

I had backed Dynaste anyway (as you know), but I chucked him in a double with Chambertin after watching Scudamore crowing on TML.

Shame I ignored Plunkett...






Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mickyp on November 23, 2013, 07:08:44 PM
Thought it was a great performance from cue card , jumped really well. Wouldn't race to back him for the gc but looking good for the Ryanair again


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 23, 2013, 07:12:01 PM
Two Rockers for me.


How many did you back mate?...... ;bigadz;

Lol

I had backed Dynaste anyway (as you know), but I chucked him in a double with Chambertin after watching Scudamore crowing on TML.

Shame I ignored Plunkett...







Start including her in your team of tipsters you soon be in trouble mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 23, 2013, 09:46:16 PM
;D

Can't help but like Tizzard, and he's a local boy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 24, 2013, 02:10:35 PM
How good is Ruby riding atm.

Such a waste he isn't still over here full time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 25, 2013, 08:35:41 AM
Interesting day today.

Debut of West Wizard for Hendo, probably the most talked up horse of the pre season..........hope he aint as good as The Liquidator....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 25, 2013, 10:39:29 AM
Like a couple at Wolver today both trained by Connor Dore

LastKingOfScotland 16's in an open race thought returned to form last time in a bunched finish (looked to be hampered)

More confident on ExceedExpectations back up at a mile and back to a fair mark.

Dore has had two run well last week at big prices, from this time onwards he usually has his best spell of the year


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 25, 2013, 11:43:43 AM
In exceedexpectations race, a friend has just rung and told me to have my max on Dansili Dutch, and I was all set to get back on the Khajally bandwagon now he back at Wolves with Quinny back on board.

Thats now 3 to avoid!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 25, 2013, 12:45:51 PM
Interesting day today.

Debut of West Wizard for Hendo, probably the most talked up horse of the pre season..........hope he aint as good as The Liquidator....


Beaten at 1-5........interesting!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 25, 2013, 12:47:35 PM
Interesting day today.

Debut of West Wizard for Hendo, probably the most talked up horse of the pre season..........hope he aint as good as The Liquidator....


Beaten at 1-5........interesting!

Dirty EW the 2nd fav landed though...

That's not a  ;danafish; as I wasn't on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 25, 2013, 12:53:07 PM
Interesting day today.

Debut of West Wizard for Hendo, probably the most talked up horse of the pre season..........hope he aint as good as The Liquidator....


Beaten at 1-5........interesting!

Dirty EW the 2nd fav landed though...

That's not a  ;danafish; as I wasn't on.


Betbright had 15/2 available for 5 mins last night. 3rd bet on the site and maxed at 2 ew. lol.

Prob wont get it out either now!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 25, 2013, 04:12:27 PM
In exceedexpectations race, a friend has just rung and told me to have my max on Dansili Dutch, and I was all set to get back on the Khajally bandwagon now he back at Wolves with Quinny back on board.

Thats now 3 to avoid!!



Luverly Jubbberly!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 25, 2013, 04:15:00 PM
Adz, you're my favourite gooner today. Don't let it go to your head, though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: craigbetts on November 25, 2013, 04:24:20 PM
Cheers for the post Adz, you have to love BOG!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 25, 2013, 04:24:37 PM
some more value pie for dinner

16's into 8

7's into 4/1 joint fav

both went out like a light after being in a lovely position


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 25, 2013, 04:47:56 PM
Cheers for the post Adz, you have to love BOG!!!

Yup. That was a welcome bonus wasn't it!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 25, 2013, 05:22:51 PM
In exceedexpectations race, a friend has just rung and told me to have my max on Dansili Dutch, and I was all set to get back on the Khajally bandwagon now he back at Wolves with Quinny back on board.

Thats now 3 to avoid!!

Congrats mate, lovely tip.  Unfortunately have poor phone coverage where i am working and missed it :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 26, 2013, 11:13:16 AM
Dont go mad on it but got a sneaky feeling for a big run from Ifbutandwhynot in the Fighting Fifth on Saturday at Newcastle.

Was tanking in the Greatwood last time when it got caught up in the faller and still finished only ten lengths of the leaders at the end.

Its fit and playing against a bunch making seasonal debuts, and if either of top two come out, i would expect he price to contract considerably. We also have the magic eight to think about if it really cuts up.

At 66s as long as we dont go mad we cant do too much damage.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on November 26, 2013, 07:47:50 PM
Anyone know the status of Binocular for this season?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 26, 2013, 08:02:59 PM
Not sure Camel.

There is a podcast done with The Chemist since the weekend on SL which might tell you more, not had a chance to listen yet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 26, 2013, 08:22:31 PM
Don't remember them mentioning Binocular in the podcast.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 27, 2013, 08:45:23 PM
Dont go mad on it but got a sneaky feeling for a big run from Ifbutandwhynot in the Fighting Fifth on Saturday at Newcastle.

Was tanking in the Greatwood last time when it got caught up in the faller and still finished only ten lengths of the leaders at the end.

Its fit and playing against a bunch making seasonal debuts, and if either of top two come out, i would expect he price to contract considerably. We also have the magic eight to think about if it really cuts up.

At 66s as long as we dont go mad we cant do too much damage.
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Always prepared to stick my hands up when I have cocked up, but Ifbutandwhynot is declared to run in the Gerry Fielden tomorrow.

Stupidly perhaps I have gone in again. Its a handicap and again most of his oppo is gonna be first time out for the season, which I think puts him in a stronger position as he is race fit.

12s in a few places.

Potential worry, is Lordofthehouse is a monkey and has a tendency to play up at the start and may cock up the dead 8 ew play.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: crown on November 28, 2013, 03:29:28 PM
Top Bombing Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 28, 2013, 03:30:03 PM
Oi mfkn oi Adzy  :-*


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 28, 2013, 03:47:00 PM
OI OI!!!

Glad I stuck to my guns and a few of you kept the faith.

Nice when it works out the way you think it will. Pretty sure that was more a fitnes advantage that won it, along with a majestic Timmy ride, who probably thought the same.

Be nice if they turned him out again on Saturday........hate to think we wasted a few quid.... ;whistle;



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 28, 2013, 05:34:44 PM
OI OI!!!

Glad I stuck to my guns and a few of you kept the faith.

Nice when it works out the way you think it will. Pretty sure that was more a fitnes advantage that won it, along with a majestic Timmy ride, who probably thought the same.

Be nice if they turned him out again on Saturday........hate to think we wasted a few quid.... ;whistle;



I thought Murphy gave it a very good ride, loved the way he had slowed the pace down as they went out for the final circuit and i felt at that point that we had a squeak.

He also got an excellent tune out of the horse, I thought he attacked his hurdles with real gusto and gained a length or more at some.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on November 28, 2013, 05:41:17 PM

BOOM!

Well done Adzy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on November 28, 2013, 07:34:36 PM
Last Kempton winner SP 7/4. Overround 137%. Available at over 4/1 on Daq at the off. Incred!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 28, 2013, 10:00:23 PM
No double dip for Ifbut on Saturday.

Quite like Cantlow at Newbs tomorrow, back with McCoy on board and Webber horses in good form.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: edgascoigne on November 29, 2013, 11:51:58 AM
Anyone know a decent stream for today's action at Newbury that won't corrupt the PC?

Thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 29, 2013, 12:22:35 PM
Anyone know a decent stream for today's action at Newbury that won't corrupt the PC?

Thanks

A min £1 bet on race with VC/Sid/Lads etc will mean you can watch the race on their sites


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 29, 2013, 12:36:03 PM
Anyone know a decent stream for today's action at Newbury that won't corrupt the PC?

Thanks

I'll fire one over when I get to my desktop.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: edgascoigne on November 29, 2013, 12:37:08 PM
Cheers chaps. Yeah can obv watch through any of the bookies sites just nice to have an ongoing stream for any pre-Hennessy build up etc.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 29, 2013, 02:45:46 PM
Anyone know a decent stream for today's action at Newbury that won't corrupt the PC?

Thanks

I'll fire one over when I get to my desktop.

I could use one too please Marky as my old one died.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: crown on November 29, 2013, 02:58:22 PM
Quality ride from McCoy on Cantlow, Well Done Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 29, 2013, 03:01:39 PM
Well done again Adz unfortunately I missed it :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 29, 2013, 03:09:29 PM
Feels like I talk to myself on here sometimes....... ;booder;


Cant even go subscription if no one reads it! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 29, 2013, 04:16:14 PM
Feels like I talk to myself on here sometimes....... ;booder;


Cant even go subscription if no one reads it! ;)

Was too busy getting my trusty steed through it's MOT to bet on yours.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 29, 2013, 05:20:41 PM
I think you have a lot of followers the form you are in mate, even the TfT thread has quietened down lately but im sure people are thankful for your tips even if they dont post.

Well done on another winner :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on November 29, 2013, 05:26:08 PM
I think you have a lot of followers the form you are in mate, even the TfT thread has quietened down lately but im sure people are thankful for your tips even if they dont post.

Well done on another winner :)

Keep posting Adz, your disciples r following. Well done


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 30, 2013, 09:55:09 AM
Cheers guys.

Hennessey looks amazingly tough. I was initially on Merry King, and added to it with Highland Lodge, and with Lavelle horses running well again, I'm happy enough.

My concern is they all seem to be second season novices and all have form with each other and the handicapper has them all figured to finish close.

Whoever wins won't be a total surprise, but I have had a sneaky few quid on Betty on Cape Tribulation, who has his ground and we know has the class. It a rough house of a race and he will be well used to that, and I can see him travlling well 3 out, and a good oppo to trade at worst Got a P next to his name, but that why we can get 85s.

As I said, zero confidence, but love the challenge of these big handicaps. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 30, 2013, 10:06:52 AM
VBOL. All about the 84/1 shots. Nothing better than cheering those over the last!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on November 30, 2013, 08:14:27 PM
Blimey fantastic work Adz,  chicken dinners all round there.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2013, 12:05:45 PM
I quite fancy Sizing Rio @ 3/1+ in the Drinmore 'chase today.

It jumped like a stag and really impressed me last time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 01, 2013, 12:21:56 PM
Forgot there was racing on today, so just looked and Segal put up a few over there.


12:40 - Gambling Girl

13:10 - Carlingford Lough



McCoy, who must have been delighted with My Tent Or Yours at Newcastle yesterday, is primarily over to ride Jezki in the Hatton’s Grace and he will also be looking forward to Minella Foru, but I think he has a great chance of winning the Bar One Racing Drinmore Novice Chase as well on Carlingford Lough.

Normally this type of race goes to an up-and-coming novice who hasn’t had much experience over fences, but I would make an exception for Carlingford Lough, who won the Galway Plate in August and was second in the Kerry National under top weight last time.

Clearly that is the best chase form on offer and he also had some high-class handicap hurdle form, at least on a par with the best any of his rivals could muster on the figures.

I think he will like the going more than Don Cossack, and as good as Sizing Rio has looked, he has won two weak races and I think he would prefer further and softer ground.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 01, 2013, 12:27:51 PM
I quite fancy Sizing Rio @ 3/1+ in the Drinmore 'chase today.

It jumped like a stag and really impressed me last time.


I liked Don Cossack after his debut jumping, but didnt back it up last time when having every chance, so reckon you could be on a winner here Ralph. Fair bit of money for JPs tho.

I strangely like one in the last at Carlisle, the lady ams race...I know!!...

Backed it at 12s last night and been backed to give me more hope. Knight Valliant is always ridden by Miss Butterworth and probably her pride and joy. C&D winner and more experienced than most of the other riders, and a reasonable first time out record, I reckon she is worth a little ew interest even at 8s


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2013, 01:32:40 PM
Sizing Rio was slightly disappointing there and weak in the market too.

Probably would prefer some soft in the going description and 3M.

Not giving up on him yet though...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 01, 2013, 03:56:00 PM
I quite fancy Sizing Rio @ 3/1+ in the Drinmore 'chase today.

It jumped like a stag and really impressed me last time.


I liked Don Cossack after his debut jumping, but didnt back it up last time when having every chance, so reckon you could be on a winner here Ralph. Fair bit of money for JPs tho.

I strangely like one in the last at Carlisle, the lady ams race...I know!!...

Backed it at 12s last night and been backed to give me more hope. Knight Valliant is always ridden by Miss Butterworth and probably her pride and joy. C&D winner and more experienced than most of the other riders, and a reasonable first time out record, I reckon she is worth a little ew interest even at 8s


Just seemed to blow up having travelled well. Still, no damage and small profit, keeps the bandwagon rolling on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on December 04, 2013, 12:09:42 PM
putting up one i have backed before on thread JIROFT in the very tricky 1.00 Lingfield

Backed it on uk debut at 100+ betfair sp ran a cracker to run 5th in the epsom dash, been a bit disappointing since

Have dug a bit deeper and seems could just be best fresh

Including Italian form

111305 career record after 60+ day break

Also the stats suggest much better in a smallish field

Likely to drift again today have had a small bet at betfair sp needs to lead to have anychance though


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on December 04, 2013, 12:43:28 PM
some nice winners adz of late well done

Butler banned for 5 years

Amazed the horses pumped full of stanazol were allowed to run for the second half of the year - six wins between them included a Listed race

farce at times this game


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on December 04, 2013, 05:35:26 PM
had the pace and the right trip just nowhere near good enough

winner massively improved


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 04, 2013, 08:29:04 PM
Tom Segal has just put Al Ferof up for the KG.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on December 07, 2013, 11:53:03 AM
any recomendations for the Becher please?

see the ground has just been changed to soft?

armchair viewer seeks expertise.

ty


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on December 07, 2013, 11:56:36 AM
any recomendations for the Becher please?

see the ground has just been changed to soft?

armchair viewer seeks expertise.

ty

Skybet paying 5 places.

Hopefully that helps :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 07, 2013, 11:58:23 AM
Tom Segal is on Rose of the Moon and Storm Survivor


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 10, 2013, 04:48:00 PM
Anyone know the status of Binocular for this season?

Been retired, Keith.


BINOCULAR, winner of the 2010 Champion Hurdle, has been retired after he was diagnosed with a heart problem which trainer Nicky Henderson said went some way to explaining the nine-year-old's below-par performances last season.

The JP McManus-owned hurdler, last seen finishing 28 lengths behind Hurricane Fly in this year's Champion Hurdle in one of only two starts last term, had not returned to training this season while he underwent further veterinary examination in Ireland.

Henderson said: "Extensive tests have been done on him and it appears he has a heart issue that is not going away so the decision was taken to retire him. I think you would have to conclude that there was something underlying that we couldn't detect that would easily explain some of last season's performances."


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 12, 2013, 07:52:18 AM
I like Pindar today up at Newcastle in the 1.20.  It's a consistent animal and I thought 4/1 would have been a fair price for an e/w punt to nothing. It's a tricky race but I also like the jockey and was surprised to see 11/2 available with VC this morning. I have thrown a pony e/w at it and may well have a few pound more later today once there is a proper market to take note of.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 12, 2013, 06:26:22 PM
Who said nothing is free in life, just won 2 tickets to Ascot next Friday from betfair Whoop whoop!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 13, 2013, 10:40:11 AM
Who said nothing is free in life, just won 2 tickets to Ascot next Friday from betfair Whoop whoop!

The 2 tickets i won are for Friday 20th December at Ascot in the premier enclosure, unfortunately i cannot make it that day. It would be a shame for them to go to waste so i am quite happy to give them to whoever wants them. First come first gets, post that you want them in the thread then DM me a postal address and as soon as i receive them i'll send them on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 13, 2013, 01:02:59 PM
Who said nothing is free in life, just won 2 tickets to Ascot next Friday from betfair Whoop whoop!

The 2 tickets i won are for Friday 20th December at Ascot in the premier enclosure, unfortunately i cannot make it that day. It would be a shame for them to go to waste so i am quite happy to give them to whoever wants them. First come first gets, post that you want them in the thread then DM me a postal address and as soon as i receive them i'll send them on.

tickets gone.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 28, 2013, 12:19:14 PM
Said I wouldn't post about Brookhouse horses on TFT, but the Welsh Nat has been Goulanes target all year.

He arrives in tip top form. At 16s + I cant put anyone off.

My serious money has been on Merry King for some time, but I have some tasty numbers on Goulanes at fancy prices, and will be cheering him if the pair jump the last upsides.

PS, not at Cheppy, as I hate the place......full of W......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 28, 2013, 12:33:52 PM
Said I wouldn't post about Brookhouse horses on TFT, but the Welsh Nat has been Goulanes target all year.

He arrives in tip top form. At 16s + I cant put anyone off.

My serious money has been on Merry King for some time, but I have some tasty numbers on Goulanes at fancy prices, and will be cheering him if the pair jump the last upsides.

PS, not at Cheppy, as I hate the place......full of W......

Goulanes 22/1 with several, including BMU.

Dabbleage has taken place.

Thanks Adzy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 28, 2013, 08:27:34 PM
Bleeding after race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2013, 08:31:30 PM
Bleeding after race.

Weren't we all...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 28, 2013, 09:37:09 PM
Any views on Leopard 3:35 value at risk 11/8 with b365 10/11 with paddy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2013, 09:41:49 PM
Any views on Leopard 3:35 value at risk 11/8 with b365 10/11 with paddy?

At those kind of prices I am happy to just watch the race :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 28, 2013, 09:47:04 PM
Any views on Leopard 3:35 value at risk 11/8 with b365 10/11 with paddy?


You can do that all day every day Omm. I could give you 20 plus similar price discrepancies every day given the right time of day.

When it comes to NH Flat races once you start getting penalties, and each horse potentially improving masses between races, you're on your own mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 29, 2013, 07:43:28 AM
Any views on Leopard 3:35 value at risk 11/8 with b365 10/11 with paddy?


You can do that all day every day Omm. I could give you 20 plus similar price discrepancies every day given the right time of day.

When it comes to NH Flat races once you start getting penalties, and each horse potentially improving masses between races, you're on your own mate.

That's all I need to know, thanks Adz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on December 29, 2013, 10:53:44 AM
I've had my biggest bets of the NH season so far today - and backed Our Conner at 11/4 and again for the Champion Hurdle.  There's not much justification for this from a Grade One form perspective, other than the noise coming from those very close to Hughes stable is incredibly bullish - and a number of very shrewd judges have gone in and will be going in to have similar bets today.

Don't expect or want anyone to follow - just thought I'd share for sweats.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 29, 2013, 11:00:20 AM
I've had my biggest bets of the NH season so far today - and backed Our Conner at 11/4 and again for the Champion Hurdle.  There's not much justification for this from a Grade One form perspective, other than the noise coming from those very close to Hughes stable is incredibly bullish - and a number of very shrewd judges have gone in and will be going in to have similar bets today.

Don't expect or want anyone to follow - just thought I'd share for sweats.

Bobby1 will back that too - his lad is named Connor, & Phil is from Yorkshire, so he is always on about "Our Connor".


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 29, 2013, 11:22:55 AM
I've had my biggest bets of the NH season so far today - and backed Our Conner at 11/4 and again for the Champion Hurdle.  There's not much justification for this from a Grade One form perspective, other than the noise coming from those very close to Hughes stable is incredibly bullish - and a number of very shrewd judges have gone in and will be going in to have similar bets today.

Don't expect or want anyone to follow - just thought I'd share for sweats.


Different stages of the season admittedly, but at the prices I saw last night Our Connor had to be backed when you consider he is shorter than The Fly for the CH.

If his bubble bursts today so be it, but with the comments of our friendly jester added to the above, it's a get stuck in job for me too! GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2013, 11:36:35 AM
I guess it's just me that feels that Our Conor still has plenty to prove.

I strongly fancy Hurricane Fly to firmly put the young upstart in his place today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 29, 2013, 11:45:21 AM
I guess it's just me that feels that Our Conor still has plenty to prove.

I strongly fancy Hurricane Fly to firmly put the young upstart in his place today.


You may well be right Ralph, and an inherent ability to get HF wrong all the time probably helps me come to this conclusion. At some point HF will have the Long Run, Kauto Star factor and go to the well once too often. 10 in two days time and been racing at the top table for 7 years now. We shall see. Almost trying to convince myself now!!

Great race either way!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2013, 11:59:32 AM
I guess it's just me that feels that Our Conor still has plenty to prove.

I strongly fancy Hurricane Fly to firmly put the young upstart in his place today.


You may well be right Ralph, and an inherent ability to get HF wrong all the time probably helps me come to this conclusion. At some point HF will have the Long Run, Kauto Star factor and go to the well once too often. 10 in two days time and been racing at the top table for 7 years now. We shall see. Almost trying to convince myself now!!

Great race either way!!

Absolutely fascinating contest.

I won't actually be playing today but have a vested interest in my CH portfolio.

Billy's are offering 11/1 for OC to win both today and the CH.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on December 29, 2013, 12:22:25 PM
I guess it's just me that feels that Our Conor still has plenty to prove.

I strongly fancy Hurricane Fly to firmly put the young upstart in his place today.

I think your right Ralph he has got a lot to prove - that's why I posted it as an opinion rather than a recommendation -could easily end up with egg on face and love the Fly as so many do.

Will be great to watch - just vibes we've had are really good and let's January say pretty close to stable; however impossible to tip something up with and say amazing value in a Grade One against one of the top five hurdles ever.

Will be a great spectacle hopwfully


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2013, 12:40:31 PM
I couldn't resist having a couple of quid on Sizing Rio in the novices' 'chase at 3.05pm.

I said after it's last run that I felt it needed some cut in the ground and a longer trip and it has both of those today, however it is getting it's first run over 3M in a grade 1 contest.

I am encouraged by the fact that de Bromhead is not afraid to pitch him in at this level and also by the fancy prices available.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on December 29, 2013, 01:09:44 PM
I guess it's just me that feels that Our Conor still has plenty to prove.

I strongly fancy Hurricane Fly to firmly put the young upstart in his place today.

I know he's exuberant as a rule but he looked fizzy at Naas a couple of months ago and didn't see it out. I wouldn't back him today until I've seen him to post.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 29, 2013, 02:08:25 PM
I also like Our Connor today.  I think he will strip fitter for has last outing on the flat and I don't necessarily agree with the comments of that last race.  I had to rewatch it because at the time I thought he was given a rather easy race and having watched the race again today when seeing the suggestion on here I still think the same. 

Good luck to all the backers. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2013, 02:16:43 PM
And still champion...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on December 29, 2013, 02:17:27 PM
Proverbial egg on face - no excuses, what an animal that thing is - just incredible


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 29, 2013, 02:18:18 PM
Made that look very easy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on December 29, 2013, 04:42:20 PM
"Dessie Hughes, trainer of Our Conor, was satisfied with last season's Triumph Hurdle winner on what was his first start over hurdles since the Cheltenham Festival in March.

He said: "I felt coming here if he got to within a few lengths (of Hurricane Fly) it would be a good run. It's his first run over hurdles in eight months and his first time against older horses. I was very happy with the run and I think he'll come on for it.""




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 29, 2013, 05:02:28 PM
Not seen race yet, but seen result.

Yet again I get The Fly wrong..........lump on for the Champ Hurdle........muhahaaaaaaa!!! ;izimbra;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 31, 2013, 09:11:42 PM
Only just realised that Segal has a couple for tomorrow.

Musselburgh

14:10 - New Year's Eve



Cheltenham

14:30 - Carrickboy


Happy New Year punters!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 01, 2014, 12:22:54 AM
Many Happy Returns to all of the horses in training.

 ;charmaine;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on January 01, 2014, 12:02:41 PM
King Rolfe runs today in 12.30 at Catterick.

Dropped to class 4 and upped in distance from 2 miles.

Should have a good chance today.

I'm stuck in London so can't be there to see it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 01, 2014, 12:24:39 PM

What is the backstory to the Davy Russell thing?


http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 01, 2014, 12:39:52 PM

What is the backstory to the Davy Russell thing?


http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews

Think it is more a case of snapping up Cooper before he goes elsewere

Similar to the Gosden Buick case?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 01, 2014, 09:00:21 PM
Has the mystery owner Rakebackmyhorse.com ish, the one with all the horse with Violet Jordan, jacked it in?

I see a couple of their old horses Brown Pete today, and Ammenable tomorrow have gone to Anne Stokel.

Out of the frying pan...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 02, 2014, 05:51:29 PM
he got warned off a while ago


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 02, 2014, 06:03:26 PM
Did anyone hear any news of Sizing Rio since it was PU at Leopardstown?

It was going nicely well in touch with the leaders and about a mile to go when it went wrong but I've not seen any report on him since.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 09, 2014, 12:07:39 AM
Looking forward to The Dubai Carnival which starts again at Meydan on Thursday.

I have been looking at trainer stats, jockey stats and have concentrated on the past 3 carnivals to try and form some systems i am going to follow for small money.

The first system i will implement is with Goldophin runners for there number one trainer Saeed bin suroor.

Goes without saying they like winners here :) But Bin Suroor follows a nice pattern in how he targets his horses for the carnival.

His horses have an excellent record "first run in the UAE" of that season, on the second run of the season the record is pretty por the third run if there is one shows a record more similar to the first run. It is worth noting that Al Zarooni had a similar record (ahem) so Appleby may follow suit however that is hearsay and i fancy the main man will want to make sure he grabs a bit more limelight this time around.

These stats suggest he has the horses 100% ready for there first runs in Dubai but possibly as a result of over training they bounce or comeback to quickly for the second run before again running well on the third start. For the purposes of this i will be backing the Bin Surror animals on first run at the carnival blind and then leaving them alone there after (there is an argument to lay them second run back as well)

Over the years the "supertrainer" pops up in Dubai usually having 1 or 2 excellent seasons with improbable winners with previously average animals before fading away never to be seen again. Trying to find out who the next "chosen" trainer is the hard bit but i think i may have found one.

AHMAD BIN HARMASH was an assistant trainer to former super trainer Mubarak Bin Shafya (a trainer who has served a drugs ban since his hot spell and comeback at a below average level) Whether or not Harmash has used some of the ahem methods of his former boss i have no idea but he has made a promising start this season.

Two winners from 19 does not sound great but he has had a further 9 places and most have been fair/big prices. Now this is risky as the competition gets a lot tougher for the carnival.

However on paper he looks to have some interesting animals and i will be backing all of his runners blind for the first 4 meetings and then reviewing the performance. N.b He also appears to have the services of Adrie De Vries an excellent Meydan jockey for the carnival which is another positive.

The third system i will be following is a very basic one. Silvestre De Souza is a very good jockey and has once again been based in the UAE for 3 months already giving him vital extra preparation time for the carnival. He has ridden at an amazing 48% strike rate in the UAE the past few months and in the last two carnivals has made very fast starts in the first half of the meeting. This could be due to riding the Bin Suroor animals, the fact he is a very good jockey, his track knowledge or just a bit of randomness. I think there is enough in it to follow again blind for the first half of the carnival.


SYSTEM 1 Back all Saeed bin suroor runners first run in the UAE at the carnival. ALL CARNIVAL.

SYSTEM 2 Back all Ahmad Bin Harmash runners at the carnival. To be reviewed after Thursday, 30th Jan meeting.

SYSTEM 3 Back all Silvestre De Souza rides. Upto and including meeting on Thursday, 13 February, 2014.

I have more confidence in the 1st and 3rd systems so will be playing them to a mythical £10 stake, System 2 will be recorded to a mythical £5 stake. The first few meets will see a lot of system 1 and system 3 clashes as sds will be riding most first run horses for saeed bin suroor.

For the purposes of this i will record them as separate bets.

QUALIFIERS FOR WEEK 1 THURSDAY 9TH JAN 2014

SYSTEM 1

3.05 DESERT LAW
3.40 CLON BRULEE + 3.40 TRANSPARENT
4.15 MY FREEDOM
4.50 DO IT ALL
5.25 SHURUQ
6.00 FREE WHEELING + COMPLICATE

SYSTEM 2

3.40 IZAAJ + BUSKER
4.50 TARBAWI
5.25 SAMURAI SWORD
6.00 IGUAZU FALLS


SYSTEM 3

3.05 DESERT LAW
3.40 TRANSAPRENT
4.15 MY FREEDOM
4.50 DO IT ALL
5.25 SHURUQ
6.00 COMPLICATE

RESULTS FOR WEEK 1

SYSTEM 1

BET AMOUNT =

BET RETURNS =

PROFIT/LOSS =

SYSTEM 2

BET AMOUNT =

BET RETURNS =

PROFIT/LOSS =

SYSTEM 3

BET AMOUNT =

BET RETURNS =

PROFIT/LOSS =



All returns will calculated to betfair sp with a 5% commision rate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 09, 2014, 05:27:50 PM

This is currently being shown Live, on Sky Sports 1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 09, 2014, 05:29:19 PM

This is currently being shown Live, on Sky Sports 1.

and appleby is following al zarooni from last season and sds is having a rare shocker

hopefully he has saved himself for the 6pm :)

luckily the supertrainer has had a winner at a fair price so should mean overall at worst a small profit for today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 09, 2014, 07:35:09 PM
RESULTS FOR WEEK 1

SYSTEM 1

PROFIT/LOSS = 0pts

SYSTEM 2

PROFIT/LOSS = +55pts

SYSTEM 3

PROFIT/LOSS = +10pts


a good start especially when you consider sds did not ride particularly well for whatever reason and the bin suroor horses seemed a bit flat, was a bit galling to see appleby win the first two!

The super trainer came up trumps early on with a 16-1 winner and a 14-1 second in the last





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 11, 2014, 09:39:39 PM
 Saphir Du Rheu is the horse worth an ante post bet, has been quite impressive last couple of runs? NRNB on the world hurdle 10-1?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 11, 2014, 10:14:40 PM
Saphir Du Rheu is the horse worth an ante post bet, has been quite impressive last couple of runs? NRNB on the world hurdle 10-1?

Not sure that they'll want to run it against Big Bucks, so would Coral Cup not be more likely?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 11, 2014, 11:56:01 PM
Saphir Du Rheu is the horse worth an ante post bet, has been quite impressive last couple of runs? NRNB on the world hurdle 10-1?

Not sure that they'll want to run it against Big Bucks, so would Coral Cup not be more likely?


He's not stopping at the end of his races and the handicapper is likely to clobber him again. Looks for all the world like the BB replacement to me, but with BB and Celestial Halo in the WH already I would suspect the Pertemps will be the target, if he goes to Chelts. The extra distance make eek out the extra improvement to offset his rise in ratings IMO.

Defo a horse with choices tho and NRNB all the way if you must


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 13, 2014, 05:04:28 PM
1.45 southwell tommorow is an interesting race

lots of good youngish performers in here

NOBLE CITIZEN is interesting especially at 14-s with hills

Has two "hidden" runs on the dirt in Dubai way back when which suggest Southwell will not be a problem, classy compared to this lot think 14-s is a bit big



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 13, 2014, 08:50:10 PM
The Cheltenham selection from Segal this week is Al Ferof in the Gold Cup


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 14, 2014, 11:57:52 AM
1.45 southwell tommorow is an interesting race

lots of good youngish performers in here

NOBLE CITIZEN is interesting especially at 14-s with hills

Has two "hidden" runs on the dirt in Dubai way back when which suggest Southwell will not be a problem, classy compared to this lot think 14-s is a bit big



Pie anyone?

Good shout, whatever happens!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Eso Kral on January 14, 2014, 02:00:45 PM
1.45 southwell tommorow is an interesting race

lots of good youngish performers in here

NOBLE CITIZEN is interesting especially at 14-s with hills

Has two "hidden" runs on the dirt in Dubai way back when which suggest Southwell will not be a problem, classy compared to this lot think 14-s is a bit big


Too good John
TYVM


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 14, 2014, 02:02:06 PM
Well done horsey, even the commentators on ATR cant believe it won - YOU KNEW, YOU KNEW! Thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 14, 2014, 03:02:22 PM
No pie tonight   ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 14, 2014, 03:52:03 PM
Thanks all

gutsy win especially up the usually dreaded far rail



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 14, 2014, 05:22:10 PM
Well done horsey. Unfortunately I missed it :(

Anyone know why the CH market is suspended on betty?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 15, 2014, 04:19:01 PM
WEEK 2


SYSTEM 1 Back all Saeed bin suroor runners first run in the UAE at the carnival. ALL CARNIVAL.

SYSTEM 2 Back all Ahmad Bin Harmash runners at the carnival. To be reviewed after Thursday, 30th Jan meeting.

SYSTEM 3 Back all Silvestre De Souza rides. Upto and including meeting on Thursday, 13 February, 2014.

I have more confidence in the 1st and 3rd systems so will be playing them to a mythical £10 stake, System 2 will be recorded to a mythical £5 stake. The first few meets will see a lot of system 1 and system 3 clashes as sds will be riding most first run horses for saeed bin suroor.

For the purposes of this i will record them as separate bets.

QUALIFIERS FOR WEEK 2 THURSDAY 16TH JAN 2014

SYSTEM 1

Haafaguinea + Saxo Jack 2.30

Emirates Flyer 3.40

Tha'ir + Code of Honour 4.15

Validus 5.25



SYSTEM 2

NO RUNNERS


SYSTEM 3

14:30 Meydan - Saxo Jack (FR)
15:05 Meydan - Autumn Lily (USA)
15:40 Meydan - Emirates Flyer
16:15 Meydan - Tha'ir (IRE)
16:50 Meydan - Hitchens (IRE)
17:25 Meydan - Validus

RESULTS FOR WEEK 2

SYSTEM 1

BET AMOUNT =

BET RETURNS =

PROFIT/LOSS =

SYSTEM 2

BET AMOUNT = no qualifiers

BET RETURNS = no qualifiers

PROFIT/LOSS = no qualifiers

SYSTEM 3

BET AMOUNT =

BET RETURNS =

PROFIT/LOSS =




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 15, 2014, 08:22:38 PM
Been advised to have a good bet on Intrigo in the last. 12 with 365. Expect it to go!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on January 15, 2014, 08:30:01 PM
edited found


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 16, 2014, 07:01:56 PM
WEEK 2


SYSTEM 1 Back all Saeed bin suroor runners first run in the UAE at the carnival. ALL CARNIVAL.

SYSTEM 2 Back all Ahmad Bin Harmash runners at the carnival. To be reviewed after Thursday, 30th Jan meeting.

SYSTEM 3 Back all Silvestre De Souza rides. Upto and including meeting on Thursday, 13 February, 2014.

I have more confidence in the 1st and 3rd systems so will be playing them to a mythical £10 stake, System 2 will be recorded to a mythical £5 stake. The first few meets will see a lot of system 1 and system 3 clashes as sds will be riding most first run horses for saeed bin suroor.

For the purposes of this i will record them as separate bets.

QUALIFIERS FOR WEEK 2 THURSDAY 16TH JAN 2014

SYSTEM 1

Haafaguinea + Saxo Jack 2.30

Emirates Flyer 3.40

Tha'ir + Code of Honour 4.15

Validus 5.25



SYSTEM 2

NO RUNNERS


SYSTEM 3

14:30 Meydan - Saxo Jack (FR)
15:05 Meydan - Autumn Lily (USA)
15:40 Meydan - Emirates Flyer
16:15 Meydan - Tha'ir (IRE)
16:50 Meydan - Hitchens (IRE)
17:25 Meydan - Validus

RESULTS FOR WEEK 2

SYSTEM 1

BET AMOUNT = 60

BET RETURNS = 45

PROFIT/LOSS = -15

SYSTEM 2

BET AMOUNT = no qualifiers

BET RETURNS = no qualifiers

PROFIT/LOSS = no qualifiers

SYSTEM 3

BET AMOUNT = 60

BET RETURNS = 45

PROFIT/LOSS = -15





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 19, 2014, 01:14:05 PM
super trainer had two winners at Meydan yesterday

Unfourtantley i am doing carnival only :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 22, 2014, 01:53:43 PM
Some crazy gambles going on for Donovan today, his first one just hacked up at Lingfield backed from 10-1 yesterday to evens, previous group 2 winner. Another goes 16:25 Kempton, now odds on, previously it ran its last race at 66-1!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 02:52:47 PM

Should be well rested after 700 days rest!!!

Beaten over 100 lengths in last 3 races

Last race, last of 13 at 66/1 class 6

Best price 1/2

Funny old game...........


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 03:20:20 PM

Should be well rested after 700 days rest!!!

Beaten over 100 lengths in last 3 races

Last race, last of 13 at 66/1 class 6

Best price 1/2

Funny old game...........

Probably not even the same horse!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 04:47:20 PM

All down to "low key" now then


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 22, 2014, 05:07:09 PM

All down to "low key" now then

Saw the result not the race, all seems very dodgy to me


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 05:13:04 PM

All down to "low key" now then

Saw the result not the race, all seems very dodgy to me

Low Key Kemp 6.25  supposedly the next leg

Nick Luck reckons its the biggest coup since the 2010 Barney Curley gamble


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2014, 05:17:55 PM

All down to "low key" now then

Saw the result not the race, all seems very dodgy to me


Not sure why its dodgy. If you as an owner have the patience to pay for your horse to sit idle for 2 years while its handicap comes down, you need to win a lot to pay for having to shell out without enjoyment or return all that time.

Good on "whoever" has orchestrated this coup I say.

I just hope that when David Williams of Ladbrokes says "we have measures inplace to counter this sort of thing" doesn't mean they can cancel multis etc and worm out of it. That would leave a very nasty taste.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 05:30:20 PM
1.93 on betfair


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 22, 2014, 05:31:01 PM
1.93 on betfair

You laying Tal?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 05:31:21 PM
Barney got an interest in all the coups horses


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 22, 2014, 05:31:38 PM

All down to "low key" now then

Saw the result not the race, all seems very dodgy to me


Not sure why its dodgy. If you as an owner have the patience to pay for your horse to sit idle for 2 years while its handicap comes down, you need to win a lot to pay for having to shell out without enjoyment or return all that time.

Good on "whoever" has orchestrated this coup I say.

I just hope that when David Williams of Ladbrokes says "we have measures inplace to counter this sort of thing" doesn't mean they can cancel multis etc and worm out of it. That would leave a very nasty taste.

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/9128374/first-three-deliver-in-gamble


With you on that Adz, of course whoever gets the lot deserves it and should keep it as long as everything is above board, when watching the first race Jason was saying the horse had won a group 2 a couple of years ago and had tumbled down the ratings since, but why all of a sudden with a change of trainer does the horses start winning? I do not even know half about horses that you know and I'm probably a bit ignorant as to learning the ins and outs of it all, but something like this gets reported generally and it just doesn't (IMO) look good on the industry to non horsey type people.

Anyway good luck to those that need it ( or not as the case maybe)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 05:32:16 PM

:D

Behave!

Edit: even money now. Where's that cash out button?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 22, 2014, 05:34:27 PM

May as well take the opportunity if there is one?   If the price is bound to be too short, we lay right?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 05:35:05 PM

May as well take the opportunity if there is one?   If the price is bound to be too short, we lay right?

Ladbrokes are 1/4


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 05:35:30 PM
I wonder if PV is in on the act


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 22, 2014, 05:38:30 PM

May as well take the opportunity if there is one?   If the price is bound to be too short, we lay right?

Ladbrokes are 1/4

Ladbrokes are a bookmaker?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 22, 2014, 05:39:57 PM
Ha, that oddschecker is hilarious for that race. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 05:42:37 PM
Looking at 1/3 with the bookies and Major Stevens at a push with betfair. Can't both be right


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 22, 2014, 05:47:24 PM
Anyone near a Coral shop should back Pass The Time each way.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 05:51:51 PM

Just had a few rupees e/w Time Square


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 22, 2014, 06:01:01 PM
#Invalid YouTube Link#


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 22, 2014, 06:13:06 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIl89hQ-Olk

Edit.  Got there


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 22, 2014, 06:20:38 PM
#Invalid YouTube Link#

Not sure why it's not coming up but it was the Barney Curley link on YouTube where he Bury's McCrick and ex jockey turned journo can't remember his name, title is Barney Curley retires, if someone can put it on its great to watch.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: rfgqqabc on January 22, 2014, 06:27:13 PM
On a bit of everything now. Hills offer a Place (2 places) market. Low Key 1/20. I really would like to be on their side in that market!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on January 22, 2014, 06:29:14 PM
Is this horse now a lay given the price?  If it was forecast to be 7/2 and we can lay it at 1.92 only issue I can see is that the books are round the 1/3 mark.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on January 22, 2014, 06:32:23 PM

course books not going to get skinned by ew thieves opened 4/6


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 06:40:57 PM

Wiiiiiiiiiii Barney


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2014, 06:42:10 PM
Anyone near a Coral shop should back Pass The Time each way.


Do you work for Corals Doobs?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on January 22, 2014, 06:43:53 PM
I layed the gamble :(  but I did back Stag Hill for the place :) 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 06:44:43 PM
So how much do you reckon someone has made today?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 06:46:57 PM

PROBABLY involved in Callisto Light Kemp 19.55


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 22, 2014, 06:47:12 PM
Anyone near a Coral shop should back Pass The Time each way.


Do you work for Corals Doobs?

Was <5/1on machine about 1.75 the place.  Guess I pay their wages.  


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2014, 06:51:28 PM
Anyone near a Coral shop should back Pass The Time each way.


Do you work for Corals Doobs?

Was <5/1on machine about 1.75 the place.  Guess I pay their wages.  


LOL, suckered me in, so I must too!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 06:52:22 PM

PROBABLY involved in Callisto Light Kemp 19.55

Would have thought The Wonga Coup was more apt


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 06:53:34 PM

PROBABLY involved in Callisto Light Kemp 19.55

Would have thought The Wonga Coup was more apt

Callisto 821 days since last run, thats form of the day


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 06:55:05 PM

PROBABLY involved in Callisto Light Kemp 19.55

Would have thought The Wonga Coup was more apt

Callisto 821 days since last run, thats form of the day

11/8 now so you might be right! Doesn't have the suitable name tho. :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: edgascoigne on January 22, 2014, 07:15:35 PM
Did my money on bad ew double. Couldn't care less. Bless Barney's little cotton socks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 07:36:45 PM

Corals think between £3-4 million industry wide the damage

Corals are in for £250k


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 07:41:11 PM

Corals think between £3-4 million industry wide the damage

Corals are in for £250k

Wowzers!

Still, Cheltenham in a couple of months


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 07:51:06 PM

PROBABLY involved in Callisto Light Kemp 19.55

Would have thought The Wonga Coup was more apt

Callisto 821 days since last run, thats form of the day

11/8 now so you might be right! Doesn't have the suitable name tho. :D

11/10 now...or 3/1 on betfair...

Is this a case of the punters putting 2 and 2 together to get 5?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2014, 07:56:44 PM
Go on Tal.


Miss the four weddings and go to the Funeral!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 07:57:49 PM
Go on Tal.


Miss the four weddings and go to the Funeral!!

I didn't miss all four weddings, but good point well made!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 08:10:33 PM

Callisto wins to seal the day off nicely


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2014, 08:10:54 PM
If that was the last leg, thats amazing.

Superb!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 08:11:42 PM
I've been to more unpleasant funerals.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on January 22, 2014, 08:31:14 PM
I think this is a good read

http://www.theirishfield.ie/site/article.php?id=3895&cid=5


not sure if you all agree with this

sean boyce ‏@boyciesbetting 3m

(1/2) Extraordinary patience & discipline behind today's coup but...Improving a proven class 6 or 7 horse by 28lbs is great training...

sean boyce ‏@boyciesbetting 3m

Starting with proven 80, 90, 100+ rated flat horses and getting them dropped into class 6/7. That's something rather different...imho.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on January 22, 2014, 08:35:20 PM
Curley is not taking money from bookmakers he's taking it from other punters.

All it will mean is it is even more difficult to get bets on (if that's possible) at early prices and accounts will be even more restricted.

Barney Curley is not a punters hero, he's a parasite.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 22, 2014, 08:48:21 PM
Not a big view on Curley one way or the other but love this quote from him

 “It's not for the money, it's for the buzz. Beat the system, you know, beat those bookmakers, those smart-arses. You go into a betting shop and see them robbing these poor fellows, with these gaming machines. They're as addictive as crack cocaine. You see them coming back to the counter with their credit cards, for another tenner. Of course the great thing about those machines is that number nine won't go to even money and win five lengths."


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2014, 08:59:11 PM
He's just an exaggerated version of what trainers have done in dogs and horses for as long as there has been racing.

As a punter, you have to make the false assumption every horse and every jockey is primed and trying.

I would have more of an issue if other jockeys/trainers in the races were in on it. It doesn't help the image of the sport, though, and that's the biggest thing for me, I suppose.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2014, 09:03:49 PM
I think if most of us as gamblers were in a similar position we would attempt the same. Especially the Pro's amongst us, organised, methodical, spotting weaknesses etc!

I suspect the difference is many may not have his patience/money to engineer such a tickle.

Certainly don't see him as a parasite. Pretty sure if anyone found an angle, they wouldn't think too much about the rest of the punting public either!

We are all here to win money aren't we??


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on January 22, 2014, 09:10:47 PM
Yes, I have to disagree with you as well Keith, unless of course you have had some personal interaction with him that merits the tag. 

He is doing no different than what we do when we act on information we receive - it is just exaggerated, meticulously planned and delivered with far more funds available to keep the horses off the course and plan the coup.  You can argue every time were involved in a gamble with information from a stable it has exactly the same impact  on those who don't have the information.  Thats the nature of the handicap system which "allows" such things in the way man and horse work together.

If I had the skill, inclination and funds I would do exactly the same.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 22, 2014, 09:12:17 PM
I think if most of us as gamblers were in a similar position we would attempt the same. Especially the Pro's amongst us, organised, methodical, spotting weaknesses etc!

I suspect the difference is many may not have his patience/money to engineer such a tickle.

Certainly don't see him as a parasite. Pretty sure if anyone found an angle, they wouldn't think too much about the rest of the punting public either!

We are all here to win money aren't we??

Well put


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Skippy on January 22, 2014, 11:44:25 PM
Doesn't this scheme involve quite a lot of non-trying to get your handicap mark down? That's why its naughty, imo.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 22, 2014, 11:53:24 PM
Doesn't this scheme involve quite a lot of non-trying to get your handicap mark down? That's why its naughty, imo.

Seems like it to me, Horses that don't perform will go down the handicap, that in reality can be engineered and the normal ice cream punter is doing his or her money along the way. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 23, 2014, 12:04:37 AM
If i was annoyed at today i would be more inclined to ask the handicapper questions without whom this could not have happened (it could but not as confidently)

John Porter Stakes 2012

Eye of the Tiger beaten "a distance" dropped 11lb, artic cosmos beaten a distance +83 lengths not dropped a 1lb

Newmarket handicap 6/5/12

EOTT beaten 41 lengths dropped 8lbs Charles Camoin beaten 41.5 lengths dropped 3lbs

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Benm4gsIEAAW_ZE.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BennLaOIEAAik8a.jpg)

spot the tiger!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2014, 04:48:17 AM
Doesn't this scheme involve quite a lot of non-trying to get your handicap mark down? That's why its naughty, imo.


In a perfect world, yes, but I could probably find you upwards of 20 rides a day where similar happens but not so obviously.

At least with Barney horses, if you know your racing, you know it's happening.

Is that fair, maybe not, but like in any game or industry you pay to learn. I don't just go bundling into the FOREX market and punt stuff, and then moan when I make a loss, when regular traders can see all the signs, and it's no different with Curley stuff.

At the end of the day it's 4 races on one day of the year on a horrible Wednesday January afternoon. Unless I'm wrong, there will be plenty more racing this year, and I quite enjoyed the whole episode.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 23, 2014, 07:11:49 AM


I did laugh at this piece in The Telegraph.......




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/horseracing/10590835/Barney-Curley-linked-to-gamble-that-hits-bookmakers-for-millions.html


Specifically, this line......



Ladbrokes were another firm said to have minimised their exposure after eagle-eyed traders noticed the significance of early moves in the day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JoeBeevers on January 23, 2014, 10:00:16 AM
When I was about 10 or 11 my dad pointed out BC to me in the paddock at Lingfield Park. I went up and asked him to sign my race card and asked him if he had a winner for me. I thought that he wouldn't steer a ten year old wrong with his pocket money. He gave me a horse which I then found out was 8/13 in a six horse race. I had £65 of the £80 I had in my pocket on it. It finished sixth.

Keith might have a point.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2014, 11:32:54 AM
V surprised that some of our more respected members think Mr Curley is on his own, or a mnority here.

Only last week whilst watching a horse from a particular stable with a friend, the conversation with owners son was

son "should I back this we must have a good chance of reversing the form with x, with the experience we gained last time etc"

trainer "no, dont back him today etc"

son "I thought you said we would bet x next time out, we are the better horse. I brought my punting boots?"

trainer "oh we are, we just wont today"


And for all the world I could never have told you that horse wasn't trying.

It goes on all the time chaps, and naive to think otherwise, right or wrong.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Skippy on January 23, 2014, 12:24:45 PM
V surprised that some of our more respected members think Mr Curley is on his own, or a mnority here.

Only last week whilst watching a horse from a particular stable with a friend, the conversation with owners son was

son "should I back this we must have a good chance of reversing the form with x, with the experience we gained last time etc"

trainer "no, dont back him today etc"

son "I thought you said we would bet x next time out, we are the better horse. I brought my punting boots?"

trainer "oh we are, we just wont today"


And for all the world I could never have told you that horse wasn't trying.

It goes on all the time chaps, and naive to think otherwise, right or wrong.

I'm sure we all know this goes on. In fact, with the way handicaps are, you'd be daft to think it didn't given the big incentives for cheating. But it shouldn't go on, and people who are caught doing it should be warned off. Curley has been pretty blatant. Why should he be allowed to take part in racing any more?

I think the BHA lost a lot of heart for tackling it when they couldn't get Fallon prosecuted.

It's not just 4 races on a wet Wednesday- the real crime is all the races that these horses didn't try in to set the coup up. That's where the fraud is.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on January 23, 2014, 12:39:13 PM
It's going off again.

Pipers Piping off the boards in the 5.00 Kempton.

Don't get this one myself. Mandy Rowland?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 23, 2014, 12:43:06 PM
It's going off again.

Pipers Piping off the boards in the 5.00 Kempton.

Don't get this one myself. Mandy Rowland?

Wow 22-1 this morning. Crazy few days.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 23, 2014, 12:55:32 PM
It's going off again.

Pipers Piping off the boards in the 5.00 Kempton.

Don't get this one myself. Mandy Rowland?

Wow 22-1 this morning. Crazy few days.

ex John Butler and before that Howling?

Would imagine Mandy may not have had anything/much to do with this horse :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on January 23, 2014, 01:00:34 PM
Aaah, the old John Butler connection again. Really fancy Tijuca for this, so sigh @ Barney and his endless successful coups.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 23, 2014, 01:04:27 PM
i 'ate you butler


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 23, 2014, 01:56:34 PM
It's going off again.

Pipers Piping off the boards in the 5.00 Kempton.

Don't get this one myself. Mandy Rowland?

Wow 22-1 this morning. Crazy few days.

ex John Butler and before that Howling?

Would imagine Mandy may not have had anything/much to do with this horse :)

Justr looking at that pipers piping and the other horse the trainer has got in the race - Prohibition was the subject to a massive market move last week where it went of fav from opening double figures. what do you think of its chances here? Could last week have been a ploy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
Aaah, the old John Butler connection again. Really fancy Tijuca for this, so sigh @ Barney and his endless successful coups.


17:00, Kempton Park
Ed de Giles
Tijuca
Thu 23rd Jan 2014
Would have a good chance today as long as the Mandy Rowland-trained Pipers Piping isn't as good as the betting indicates.
 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2014, 05:16:44 PM
It's going off again.

Pipers Piping off the boards in the 5.00 Kempton.

Don't get this one myself. Mandy Rowland?

Wow 22-1 this morning. Crazy few days.

ex John Butler and before that Howling?

Would imagine Mandy may not have had anything/much to do with this horse :)

Justr looking at that pipers piping and the other horse the trainer has got in the race - Prohibition was the subject to a massive market move last week where it went of fav from opening double figures. what do you think of its chances here? Could last week have been a ploy?


Good spot Omm. Its a game eh!!

Brilliant


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on January 23, 2014, 05:21:16 PM

GB / Kemp 23rd Jan / 17:00 7f Hcap    Prohibition    Back    33521021781    23-Jan-14
16:59         C    27    20.00         27    520.00

 ;bigadz;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2014, 05:34:31 PM

GB / Kemp 23rd Jan / 17:00 7f Hcap    Prohibition    Back    33521021781    23-Jan-14
16:59         C    27    20.00         27    520.00

 ;bigadz;



Top of the  ;bigadz; class.

Almost worthy of your own moniker


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on January 23, 2014, 05:38:11 PM

GB / Kemp 23rd Jan / 17:00 7f Hcap    Prohibition    Back    33521021781    23-Jan-14
16:59         C    27    20.00         27    520.00

 ;bigadz;

:(

(http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss323/Euler5853/Thanks/Ladyintheblue1Tatty0120081ThanksforSharing.gif)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 23, 2014, 05:39:24 PM
have a spot in our cheltenham house, have it all the week, works out about £275 per person, smack in town centre, pm me if interested, three 30 year old racing fanatics, and drinkers!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on January 23, 2014, 05:43:37 PM
lol its actually just a bot I run that looks for value and by chance picked that after about 50 losers in a row

This one was based on the skill of laying what chompy really fancies

GB / Kemp 23rd Jan / 17:00 To Be Placed    Tijuca    Lay    33521031118    23-Jan-14
17:00         C    1.52    50.00         1.52    50.00

 ;bigadz;   ;bigadz;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on January 23, 2014, 05:48:21 PM
Anyone know why William Carson no longer rides for Stuart Williams?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 23, 2014, 05:50:35 PM
It's going off again.

Pipers Piping off the boards in the 5.00 Kempton.

Don't get this one myself. Mandy Rowland?

Wow 22-1 this morning. Crazy few days.

ex John Butler and before that Howling?

Would imagine Mandy may not have had anything/much to do with this horse :)

Justr looking at that pipers piping and the other horse the trainer has got in the race - Prohibition was the subject to a massive market move last week where it went of fav from opening double figures. what do you think of its chances here? Could last week have been a ploy?


Good spot Omm. Its a game eh!!

Brilliant

Just got home from swimming with the kids, funny funny couple of days, at least I was on this one.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 23, 2014, 06:11:27 PM
Anyone know why William Carson no longer rides for Stuart Williams?

He is riding for "Ann Stokel" now that rakebackmypoker man has "moved" his horses there (ahem) as he has some kind of retainer for the owner

Also Stuart Williams has a fairly big new owner in Tom Morley who i speak to occasionally (still has horses with robert cowel moved a lot to Williams) just won a Kempton maiden



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rubbish2407 on January 23, 2014, 06:12:08 PM
Isn't it true that Horses are run on Ground that isn't to their liking so that they trail in by 20 lengths to get favourable handicap marks? Therefore the Horses are trying but never stood a chance to start with?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 23, 2014, 06:19:40 PM
I've backed that Prohibition before, but unfortunately not today...

Nice shout omm, and wp doubleup's PC :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 23, 2014, 07:00:00 PM
Hugh Taylor tweeted the trainer of Prohibition has been fined because the horses vaccination records were incorrect.

 She has only had the horse this week.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on January 23, 2014, 07:49:53 PM
lol its actually just a bot I run that looks for value and by chance picked that after about 50 losers in a row

This one was based on the skill of laying what chompy really fancies

GB / Kemp 23rd Jan / 17:00 To Be Placed    Tijuca    Lay    33521031118    23-Jan-14
17:00         C    1.52    50.00         1.52    50.00

 ;bigadz;   ;bigadz;

Ha! This is not the Betfair forum! Respect my authoritah, I'm among the top 100 pro-gamblers in St Neots today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 23, 2014, 08:31:52 PM
Hugh Taylor tweeted the trainer of Prohibition has been fined because the horses vaccination records were incorrect.

 She has only had the horse this week.

Something tells me she has never seen the horse before tonight

Well done on the bet Omm you are a genius second guessing the Butler crew!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 23, 2014, 08:49:54 PM
Hugh Taylor tweeted the trainer of Prohibition has been fined because the horses vaccination records were incorrect.

 She has only had the horse this week.

Something tells me she has never seen the horse before tonight

Well done on the bet Omm you are a genius second guessing the Butler crew!


Haha, sometimes it's better to be a lucky  than a genius, I'm probably more towards lucky than anything else.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: gouty on January 24, 2014, 12:03:37 AM
Curley is not taking money from bookmakers he's taking it from other punters.

All it will mean is it is even more difficult to get bets on (if that's possible) at early prices and accounts will be even more restricted.

Barney Curley is not a punters hero, he's a parasite.
The only parasites in this game are the on course bookies (tbh they are arbers) who give the liquidity to bf market. They all bet the live ones on there and lay em back. In 5 years you won't be moaning about not getting on, it will be industry prices. So it's bf or go to the meeting.

Fair play to BC that takes some planning. I mean honestly, imagine waking up Weds morning after planning that for a year?  He must of been loving that buzz. Camel, you gotta respect that surely as a punter?  He has basically said f the lot of you. Punters and firms.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 28, 2014, 11:12:15 AM
I find the Annie Power situation and the quandary of which race to go for at the festival quite interesting, but I can't honestly see Ruby deserting The Fly in the CH.

Will this have a bearing on which race the mare goes for?

I'm leaning towards the World Hurdle for her especially after her run before last over 2M5 at Cheltenham when she powered up the hill and Ruby said afterwards that he didn't think that stamina would be a problem.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2014, 11:56:43 AM
I find the Annie Power situation and the quandary of which race to go for at the festival quite interesting, but I can't honestly see Ruby deserting The Fly in the CH.

Will this have a bearing on which race the mare goes for?

I'm leaning towards the World Hurdle for her especially after her run before last over 2M5 at Cheltenham when she powered up the hill and Ruby said afterwards that he didn't think that stamina would be a problem.

I'd prefer he didn't, but that's my pocket talking :)

Doesn't the owner want the CH? If so, I guess it's on Mullins to persuade him otherwise...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 28, 2014, 10:27:20 PM
Examiner runs tomorrow at Kempton 8:20 @ 11/8, Chompey put this up in TFT last time it Won, seems like it done a good job then and is fancied tmrw, any value at 11/8? Will it go off nearer evens? Maybe Chompey/Adz/Horsey or suchlike could have a look and advise?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on January 28, 2014, 10:35:01 PM
Examiner is up 5lb and the same price to beat a couple of those he took care of last time. I wouldn't put you off but haven't really looked at the race tbh.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 30, 2014, 09:04:19 AM
Like the look of Steeler in the G2 race in Meydan later. Ran a real promising race last time, sure to be fitter and surprised 7s is available.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 30, 2014, 10:16:51 AM
Good luck Adz

Have been waiting for CATFLAP to try Southwell for a long time

Problem is this is a good race for the grade, related to First Post,Westwood and Putin all of whom have won and ran well here and is by a generally good fibresand sire. Is usually very keen to post and blasts away in front and tires late. If there is one track this may work it will be here, would have happily left it at 14-s but 22-s is available which seems worth the risk.

Even if not today hopefully shows enough to comeback here again soon for a weaker race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 02, 2014, 01:53:25 PM
Really taken by Seeyouatmidnight just now. Beat a 144 horse fair and square and really good attitude. Shame he's not entered at Cheltenham but Ima following this lad.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on February 03, 2014, 02:13:55 PM
If I'm backing a horse now @ 4.0 for £100 but I want to lay it nearer off or in running what is the best way of doing it?

I.e should I just put one price/couple of prices in betfair and leave it in running, if so what prices and how much?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 03, 2014, 02:24:16 PM
If I am looking to get my stake back and hopefully freeroll, I post at 2.06. and press the keep in running button. So often it doesn't quite get down to 2, for the exact freeroll.

Bar that its hard to say, as I dont know how much you want to try and make mate.

Others, I am sure will have other ideas.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on February 03, 2014, 02:30:47 PM
If I am looking to get my stake back and hopefully freeroll, I post at 2.06. and press the keep in running button. So often it doesn't quite get down to 2, for the exact freeroll.

Bar that its hard to say, as I dont know how much you want to try and make mate.

Others, I am sure will have other ideas.

Quite happy to get my stake back, have been looking at different options and considered what you have said so I may just go with it. Thanks Adz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on February 03, 2014, 08:16:45 PM

Was at Musselburgh races yesterday.  The second race was a five horse affair with a 2/5 fav, so I advised one of my friends that the best entertainment value was to back one of the other horses each way.  She obv picks the total rag and backs it at 25-1 which equally obv pishes in  ;D



This is the first and second doing battle over the last in the next race

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/824/89yo.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/mw89yoj)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 03, 2014, 09:09:37 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bfkk_u4CcAA72IH.jpg)


picture of a horse after running at Wolver today


kickback almost as bad as Southwell now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 05, 2014, 07:07:03 PM
Sunday's fabulous Leopardstown card with four group1 races must be touch and go after all of this weather. Let's hope it abates a little.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on February 05, 2014, 07:11:52 PM
Cheeky moment...

One of the top dogs at work mentioned he's going to Uttoxeter on Saturday. He's not a big racing fan but is likely to have a bet or two.

Anyone have any views on anything? Bear in mind I like my job...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 05, 2014, 07:12:15 PM
Really taken by Seeyouatmidnight just now. Beat a 144 horse fair and square and really good attitude. Shame he's not entered at Cheltenham but Ima following this lad.

Does Mr Segal give you a call before writing his Weekender column, Chompy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 05, 2014, 11:21:11 PM
Really taken by Seeyouatmidnight just now. Beat a 144 horse fair and square and really good attitude. Shame he's not entered at Cheltenham but Ima following this lad.

Does Mr Segal give you a call before writing his Weekender column, Chompy?

No sir, did he mention this future champion?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 05, 2014, 11:43:45 PM
Really taken by Seeyouatmidnight just now. Beat a 144 horse fair and square and really good attitude. Shame he's not entered at Cheltenham but Ima following this lad.

Does Mr Segal give you a call before writing his Weekender column, Chompy?

No sir, did he mention this future champion?

Yeah, in his column from this week he was highly impressed by it as well.

WITH the emergence of the super stables like the Mullins, Nicholls and Henderson yards, it is not easy for a small trainer to get hold of a top-class horse anymore. In the past there were numerous tales of the farmer with a couple of horses finding a Cheltenham winner, but this is going to get increasingly more difficult and Hunt Ball is the only one to spring to mind from recent times.

However, every now and then a horse comes along who catches my imagination and Seeyouatmidnight for Sandy Thomson is just such a horse. Twice he’s run over hurdles this season and twice he’s won at massive prices, beating long odds-on shots easily.

Last Sunday he ran right away from Racing Pulse in a course-record time at Musselburgh and he finished full of running. He’s really athletic and, barring accidents, is going to make up into a top-class horse sooner rather than later.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Acidmouse on February 08, 2014, 11:28:54 AM
sat at home with kids all got colds, any tips for TV races today on ch4? long shots for my 50p ew! pls


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 13, 2014, 06:09:23 PM
Matt Chapman giving Phil Smith a going over on ATR :D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on February 14, 2014, 04:06:40 PM
Someone asked me to price up the 2018/9 NH jockey's Championship

This was my rough guess..

3/1 Twiston-Davies
4/1 Maguire
6/1 Coleman
6/1 Scudamore
8/1 Jacob
8/1 Johnson
12/1 McCoy
12/1 Cooper
16/1 Mullins

Anyone want to have a crack at this/or spotted any obvious mistakes in my list?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 14, 2014, 06:23:38 PM
Someone asked me to price up the 2018/9 NH jockey's Championship

This was my rough guess..

3/1 Twiston-Davies
4/1 Maguire
6/1 Coleman
6/1 Scudamore
8/1 Jacob
8/1 Johnson
12/1 McCoy
12/1 Cooper
16/1 Mullins

Anyone want to have a crack at this/or spotted any obvious mistakes in my list?



Cant see Johnson or McCoy still riding then.
Nick Scholfield will surely be in the list.
Cant see both Cooper and Mullins over here, as I expect one will get the Mullins/Meade job when Ruby/Carberry retires and someone will want to stay for the Gigginstown Gig. If Townend gets overlooked, he could be over here too.
Touchy Fehily should be in there
Scudamore will surely be found out by then .
Wayneo will be in there, and I expect Ryan Mania to be the new J Maguire and rule the north
Up and comers Harry Skelton/Richie McLernon/Tom Garner/Josh Moore, may well be figuring too.

All IMHO of course!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on February 14, 2014, 08:03:17 PM
Someone asked me to price up the 2018/9 NH jockey's Championship

This was my rough guess..

3/1 Twiston-Davies
4/1 Maguire
6/1 Coleman
6/1 Scudamore
8/1 Jacob
8/1 Johnson
12/1 McCoy
12/1 Cooper
16/1 Mullins

Anyone want to have a crack at this/or spotted any obvious mistakes in my list?



Cant see Johnson or McCoy still riding then.
Nick Scholfield will surely be in the list.
Cant see both Cooper and Mullins over here, as I expect one will get the Mullins/Meade job when Ruby/Carberry retires and someone will want to stay for the Gigginstown Gig. If Townend gets overlooked, he could be over here too.
Touchy Fehily should be in there
Scudamore will surely be found out by then .
Wayneo will be in there, and I expect Ryan Mania to be the new J Maguire and rule the north
Up and comers Harry Skelton/Richie McLernon/Tom Garner/Josh Moore, may well be figuring too.

All IMHO of course!



Fehily is older than Johnson!

Much as I think he's gone, Johnson has had an amazing career and if AP didn't exist he would be lauded as the best jockey ever.

He's over 2 years younger than AP will surely keep going for one season after the champ retires so he can win one at least!

McCoy shouldn't still be riding then, but the geezer is incredible. I wouldn't want to lay him at 12/1!

Townend is a good shout, so is Josh Moore.

Thanks Adzy.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 14, 2014, 10:12:55 PM
Didn't realize Touchy was that old. Seems like he is only just making his breakthrough!

Cant see Mccoy even finishing the season that he looks like losing title tbh

You not rate Ryan Mania, Keith, seems to be riding better and better?

Hope we are both around to find out!! ;tk;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on February 15, 2014, 03:35:26 PM
Tom Scudamore, omg.  Time after time.  I think someone mentioned earlier you wouldn't want him on your horse I echo that. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 15, 2014, 06:01:13 PM
Be nice to see this Un De Sceaux off the bridle at some point :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on February 15, 2014, 08:14:58 PM
Anyone impressed by Captain Chris today?
http://www.oddschecker.com/cheltenham-festival/cheltenham-gold-cup/winner
He's a stand out price in comparison to a lot of bookmakers, 40/1 with PaddyPower still.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 15, 2014, 08:19:38 PM
Anyone impressed by Captain Chris today?
http://www.oddschecker.com/cheltenham-festival/cheltenham-gold-cup/winner
He's a stand out price in comparison to a lot of bookmakers, 40/1 with PaddyPower still.

Doesn't he end up running an extra couple furlongs at Cheltenham?

Think Hobbs seemed more interested in Punchestown from what I heard of his interview.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 16, 2014, 01:03:44 AM
Tom Scudamore, omg.  Time after time.  I think someone mentioned earlier you wouldn't want him on your horse I echo that. 


If you have stood in the unsaddling enclosure and listened to Toms lame excuses, non of which ever involve him saying he has ever made a mistake, as many times as I have, you would struggle to rate the guy or let him ride for you again.

Very lucky to have his dads surname.......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 16, 2014, 09:52:25 AM
Really taken by Seeyouatmidnight just now. Beat a 144 horse fair and square and really good attitude. Shame he's not entered at Cheltenham but Ima following this lad.

Oi oi! Aintree next.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 18, 2014, 12:12:46 PM
Do we know who the "leading Irish trainer" is?

The one who's up before the beak this week for possession of dodgy "remedies".


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 18, 2014, 12:13:41 PM
Phillip Fenton

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/feb/17/philip-fenton-court-drugs-charges


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 18, 2014, 12:24:37 PM
Phillip Fenton

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/feb/17/philip-fenton-court-drugs-charges

Cheers Horsey.

Does this mean that last Installment and Dunguib's recent form is questionable?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 18, 2014, 12:32:40 PM
Phillip Fenton

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/feb/17/philip-fenton-court-drugs-charges

Cheers Horsey.

Does this mean that last Installment and Dunguib's recent form is questionable?

Hard to say really would certainly make me worried about having a position on either for Cheltenham tbh.

They both had excellent form before there long breaks tbf


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 18, 2014, 01:08:11 PM
It's 'a storm in a teacup' according to Gigginstown stud.

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/9172102/gigginstown-backing-for-fenton


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 18, 2014, 09:20:17 PM
Really taken by Seeyouatmidnight just now. Beat a 144 horse fair and square and really good attitude. Shame he's not entered at Cheltenham but Ima following this lad.

Oi oi! Aintree next.

Just going through my e-mails and got this one from Totesport today -

Dear Mark,

We are writing to inform you that we will be changing the way we administer Special Offers to your totepool.com account. As you are aware, totepool.com provides extra value for its customers through regular promotional offers such as Moneyback Specials, Best Odds Guaranteed and Free Bets.

Following a recent review of your account, we regret to inform you that you will no longer be able to benefit from these and other gestures classified as 'special offers'. Accordingly, we must inform you that this change comes into effect immediately.


I had a whole £20 on, and they whacked me for a 15p rule 4 on a 10/1 NR too :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on February 18, 2014, 09:55:14 PM
It's 'a storm in a teacup' according to Gigginstown stud.

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/9172102/gigginstown-backing-for-fenton

Storm in a test tube would be more appropriate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 18, 2014, 10:19:53 PM
It's 'a storm in a teacup' according to Gigginstown stud.

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/9172102/gigginstown-backing-for-fenton

Storm in a test tube would be more appropriate.

:)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 18, 2014, 11:55:31 PM
http://t.co/YaqJVLnBkg


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 22, 2014, 02:13:25 PM
Rivellino flatters to deceive again, deceived quite a few too as it traded @ 1.07.

I'm starting to think it might be a bit of a dodge. Too harsh?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 22, 2014, 02:27:45 PM
Rivellino flatters to deceive again, deceived quite a few too as it traded @ 1.07.

I'm starting to think it might be a bit of a dodge. Too harsh?


I think only Horsey is bothered about beach racing when its 3 weeks to Chelters mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 26, 2014, 07:24:29 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/2014-02-27-kempton/18:00/winner

Keen to get involved in this race for a few reasons.

Bennelong won by 9 lengths last time giving her rider her first winner and she is on again tommorow. Horse rarely follows up a good run with another and it really is quite hard to explain that win. No penalty e.t.c looks a good thing can win but at probable max 6/4 not for me. The second in Polydamos never wins keeps running the same race and has been outbattled at least twice recently, can see the argument in backing that each way if bigger than 4's is around tommorow but hard to see why it wins this when it hasnt won weaker.

A lot of the rags just cant win for obvious reasons. Tijuca and Byrd in Hand are solid enough but can let them win. I like a small win bet on Wyndham Wave at anything bigger than 8/1. Returning from a long break the booking of Kirby has convinced me the horse will be fit enough to run well here, a moody type but its c + d figures are generally good bar the last run (4,4,1,4 and 1).




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 27, 2014, 06:17:28 PM
10's into 7/2 ran no real race

a bit sick of value pie


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 28, 2014, 02:13:05 AM
Polydamos is the biggest woofer in the history of racing. Absolutely will not stick his head in front.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 28, 2014, 10:15:59 AM
Polydamos is the biggest woofer in the history of racing. Absolutely will not stick his head in front.

When are your mob slapping those northerners about, Chompy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 28, 2014, 11:42:03 AM
Polydamos is the biggest woofer in the history of racing. Absolutely will not stick his head in front.

When are your mob slapping those northerners about, Chompy?

Not until the end of March. If we were able to play our cup-tied boys, namely Ben Nugent (so that's what a defender looks like...), Conor Washington and Nicky Ajose, 4/7 would be a cracking price. As it is, I wouldn't put you off a cover on the Spireshites.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 28, 2014, 11:50:03 AM
Polydamos is the biggest woofer in the history of racing. Absolutely will not stick his head in front.

When are your mob slapping those northerners about, Chompy?

Not until the end of March. If we were able to play our cup-tied boys, namely Ben Nugent (so that's what a defender looks like...), Conor Washington and Nicky Ajose, 4/7 would be a cracking price. As it is, I wouldn't put you off a cover on the Spireshites.

I'll chuck a score on to cover my stake, but I have faith in Darragh's army!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rubbish2407 on February 28, 2014, 03:00:39 PM
Didn't realise Big Ben was playing for your boys? Quality player for City last year. Surprised he's been loaned out to you and Brentford this year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 28, 2014, 03:19:03 PM
Absolutely no idea what he's doing down at this level. Should be top end of the Champo minimum. Still, we'll take him, as he'll probably be the difference between making/missing the play-offs.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on March 01, 2014, 03:14:35 PM
OMFG choc thornton, how did you get this beat turn over sivola


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 01, 2014, 03:54:27 PM
Two favourites decide to stay at the back and watch.

And watch.

And watch the leaders get a thirty length lead with four to jump.

Nice ride, lads!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on March 20, 2014, 07:09:09 PM
I think it was redarmi that posted on TFT about a few horses that were subject to a gamble yesterday. The last horse was declared a non runner, Brown Pete is now running tomorrow 8:05 at wolves, 365 currently have him at 11/4, not a recommend but was 5/4 when he was taken out yesterday. Be interesting to see how it runs.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 22, 2014, 11:19:28 AM
Anyone else watch Morning Line today?

That Simon Clare is a bit smarmy for my liking, but I guess that goes with the territory.

I bet he won't be in a rush to get back after quite rightly getting some stick for moaning about the FOBT tax increase :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 25, 2014, 06:53:54 PM
Jackies Solitaire looks v big at 33-1 on 365 for those that can get on.

Won a couple of chases but although jumps well she is quite small. Back over hurdles with Honeyball horses back in form, she may not win but should get a run and I would be v surprised if she goes off much above 16s, especially with Aiden on board


NB, expect a bit of a gamble on Angles Hill in same race. 10s at mo, prob a fair bit shorter later


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 26, 2014, 09:06:16 AM
JS best price now 20s, and as low as 11s with Laddies and Hills.

Fingers crossed.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 26, 2014, 09:30:57 AM
Thanks Adz, great spot (you're not talking to yourself, honest) I also had a small bet on Urcalin at 22's this morning - 16's best now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on March 26, 2014, 10:59:48 AM
JS best price now 20s, and as low as 11s with Laddies and Hills.

Fingers crossed.

Yes thanks  :)...as low as 8/1 now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 26, 2014, 11:17:43 AM
Best price 12s. hmmm. Reckon Henry Rix is reading Blonde?!

Im not keen on celebrating just getting the price right, for it to be anything of substance, we need to realize some cold hard cash.

Fook the value pie. Show em a clean pair of hooves Jackie!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 26, 2014, 11:53:30 AM
Not sure how, but I did manage to miss this  :(

Some spot anyway, so good luck lads!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on March 26, 2014, 01:17:55 PM
Great spot Adz whatever happens


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on March 26, 2014, 01:43:33 PM
gd lk adz and all who followed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 26, 2014, 03:07:24 PM
Well, that was pants!

Jumped a little awkwardly to start, but no excuses.

Couldn't have picked the winner in a million though!

Onwards!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on March 26, 2014, 03:29:12 PM
Well, that was pants!

Jumped a little awkwardly to start, but no excuses.

Couldn't have picked the winner in a million though!

Onwards!

Didn't see the race but unlucky. Good call on the price, sometimes though I'd take winners over value  :respect:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 26, 2014, 03:33:29 PM
Well, that was pants!

Jumped a little awkwardly to start, but no excuses.

Couldn't have picked the winner in a million though!

Onwards!

Didn't see the race but unlucky. Good call on the price, sometimes though I'd take winners over value  :respect:

Every time mate. No one pays for holidays and cars with value!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on March 26, 2014, 03:39:17 PM
Well, that was pants!

Jumped a little awkwardly to start, but no excuses.

Couldn't have picked the winner in a million though!

Onwards!

Didn't see the race but unlucky. Good call on the price, sometimes though I'd take winners over value  :respect:

Every time mate. No one pays for holidays and cars with value!

Yeah this is true, so why is "value" and " long term" all people talk about. When your having a bad run (referring to me) both of these words really get my goat although when things are good I seem to use these words myself! Anyway, back to finding value for the long term.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 26, 2014, 05:35:28 PM
Well, that was pants!

Jumped a little awkwardly to start, but no excuses.

Couldn't have picked the winner in a million though!

Onwards!

Didn't see the race but unlucky. Good call on the price, sometimes though I'd take winners over value  :respect:

Every time mate. No one pays for holidays and cars with value!

Yeah this is true, so why is "value" and " long term" all people talk about. When your having a bad run (referring to me) both of these words really get my goat although when things are good I seem to use these words myself! Anyway, back to finding value for the long term.

It's effectively the same answer when someone comes up to you at a poker comp with the opening line "You won't believe what just happened to me"

"Sir, sometimes ace king does beat aces. It is rough when it happens but you have to accept it's good that you're getting it in ahead because you'll win in the long term by making better decisions than your opponents"

He then tells you it was a £50k pot and you sheepishly register the 5k guaranteed comp you turned up for.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2014, 11:16:17 AM
Very keen on Maureen in the 2.40 @ Donny.

Backed her several times last year where she travelled well in top flight races, and didnt quite see out the trip at Championship speed.

The drop in trip looks the sensible solution. She has won on her seasonal debut last two years and is probably the only horse here open to any significant improvement.

As it is she is best in at the weights/ratings and despite her being with Hannon, I suspect the only reason she isn't half these odds is because we have Keiron O Neil(Hughes in Dubai) on board.

Would be very surprised if this wasnt won by one of the top 4, so at 6-1 think a chunky ew bet in order.

£75 ew @6-1.GL




Over in Dubai, I'm having a good old sentimental afternoon, where I hope a couple of old favs can do the business at mahoosive odds.

Gabriel has the booking of Hughesy in the Group 2 Godolphin Mile 1.10. Looks a great booking, as he should be tailor made for this hold up horse, following a year of Spencer up top, trying to do what Hughesy does best. Interestingly Fahey is also in Dubai to supervise when he has a fistfull of big chances at Donny. Cant resist some firty free to one here .

My fav flat horse Mount Athos is also in action in the penultimate 5.17 Sheema Classic. Bit of a globetrotter who hasn't quite gone as far as I hoped missing out several times in top races, but a promising pipe opener in the Dubai City of Gold 3 weeks ago. It was run in a slow time which wouldnt have suited this thorough stayer. With "Frank" jocked off in favour of Fallon I am feeling optimistic. 20s available and may as well chucking in an ew double.

No stakes recommended as I know have have my Dame Edna glasses on as I write this.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: rinswun on March 29, 2014, 12:18:21 PM
This is a massive Noobs question but with the official Flat season beginning today, do only wins in the UK count towards the Flat Jockey championship? I assume Meydan results don't count.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on March 29, 2014, 12:38:01 PM

GB only - Ireland doesn't count either


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on March 29, 2014, 12:42:20 PM
Very keen on Maureen in the 2.40 @ Donny.

Backed her several times last year where she travelled well in top flight races, and didnt quite see out the trip at Championship speed.

The drop in trip looks the sensible solution. She has won on her seasonal debut last two years and is probably the only horse here open to any significant improvement.

As it is she is best in at the weights/ratings and despite her being with Hannon, I suspect the only reason she isn't half these odds is because we have Keiron O Neil(Hughes in Dubai) on board.

Would be very surprised if this wasnt won by one of the top 4, so at 6-1 think a chunky ew bet in order.

£75 ew @6-1.GL




Over in Dubai, I'm having a good old sentimental afternoon, where I hope a couple of old favs can do the business at mahoosive odds.

Gabriel has the booking of Hughesy in the Group 2 Godolphin Mile 1.10. Looks a great booking, as he should be tailor made for this hold up horse, following a year of Spencer up top, trying to do what Hughesy does best. Interestingly Fahey is also in Dubai to supervise when he has a fistfull of big chances at Donny. Cant resist some firty free to one here .

My fav flat horse Mount Athos is also in action in the penultimate 5.17 Sheema Classic. Bit of a globetrotter who hasn't quite gone as far as I hoped missing out several times in top races, but a promising pipe opener in the Dubai City of Gold 3 weeks ago. It was run in a slow time which wouldnt have suited this thorough stayer. With "Frank" jocked off in favour of Fallon I am feeling optimistic. 20s available and may as well chucking in an ew double.

No stakes recommended as I know have have my Dame Edna glasses on as I write this.

The Bald One was giving enhanced odds about Jack Dexter in his shops this morning, so that helps


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: rinswun on March 29, 2014, 12:47:57 PM

GB only - Ireland doesn't count either

top man, thanks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2014, 03:01:58 PM
Ground looks very odd at Donny. Nothing coming from behind.

Maureen ran ok, but close enough based on the above, and distance between her and Jack D to give her another go.

Apols to those who followed.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2014, 03:40:29 PM
Same again. Front rankers

Both front two in market Gabriels K and Off Art are front runners. May even do a little fc.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 29, 2014, 03:58:03 PM
Same again. Front rankers

Both front two in market Gabriels K and Off Art are front runners. May even do a little fc.

I'm throwing a dart at Balty Boys and another at Sweet Lightning


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 29, 2014, 04:11:27 PM
Same again. Front rankers

Both front two in market Gabriels K and Off Art are front runners. May even do a little fc.

I'm throwing a dart at Balty Boys and another at Sweet Lightning

Almost got excited then!

Bleugh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2014, 04:15:59 PM
Front runner again. In front rank throughtout. Finishers bombing today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 29, 2014, 04:18:19 PM
Would have had Tullius nailed on from 2 out, but just seemed to stay on at the one pace.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 30, 2014, 09:37:42 AM

In the Dubai World Cup Meeting, I noticed that the Racecard Numbers & Draw numbers were the same.

Is this standard in those parts?

Presumably, they don't allocate race card numbers until the draw is done?

Quite like to see that over here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 30, 2014, 09:39:36 AM


I thought the Dubai World Cup TV coverage (a distributed feed, which SS & others took) was spectacularly good, especially the graphics & timing. And that Meydan RaceCourse, sheesh, how good is that?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on March 30, 2014, 09:44:49 AM

In the Dubai World Cup Meeting, I noticed that the Racecard Numbers & Draw numbers were the same.

Is this standard in those parts?

Presumably, they don't allocate race card numbers until the draw is done?

Quite like to see that over here.

They do that in the USA as well - draw obv done first.  In the USA handicaps are relatively rare and they don't seem to pay much attention to weight carried  so maybe that's why they don't number the horses in weight order.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 31, 2014, 03:05:10 PM
Un de Sceaux racing in France at the weekend

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZP2Ehjpihg


Isn't racing strange over there, very different hurdles, and it's just completely silent until the end.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Honeybadger on April 01, 2014, 03:36:18 PM
Aintree starts on Thursday and www.stakesandladders.com have Classic and Fantasy Pools for the whole Festival, Daily Pools and Big Race pools each day and a Grand National pool. We've also put up some hefty guarantees, so there is a very good chance of some tasty overlays.

If you haven't entered any racing pools yet then please give them a go over Aintree. It's a different way of punting on racing and it gives a great sweat, especially towards the last couple of races.





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2014, 07:45:27 AM
Up far too early so thought I would chuck the horses up I will be following today, for those that are interested. Won't be doing this 4/5 horses a race stuff. It  may prove the safe way but its a bloody long way back if you miss winning or placing in a few races, but you do need a couple or so arrows at the big meets.

2.00  Baltimore Rock 8s generally starting to realise potential now tactics changed)(just/ Irish Cavalier ew 25 Sid j(too big a price to ignore)

2.30. Many Clouds 13/2(do I need to explain?) small save Just a Par 20s( ran better at Chelts than form suggests)

3.05 Module 5s(solid form choice)/Pepite Rose 14s PP/Sid ew(improver that acts best right handed, and not too badly in at weights)

3.40 Love Double Ross, and may chuck a few beans at it, but long season(some thrive on it, but puts me off a tad). Big Fella a standing dish and had some 33s a couple of weeks ago, but 14s still a decent ew price. Ma Filleule getting the hang of jumping and nice saver at 14s.

4.15. I worry about the drying ground for the fav, but hope form forum friends he does well, but short at sub 4s for me. I like Beat That 7-1 who smashed Champagne West, a good yardstick. Probably needs to be fresh and sure will be here. Racing Pulse on has a couple of lengths to find with the fav on better ground, seems like a sensible ew alternative 11-1

4.50 If you knew how much they think of Cheltanian, you would go massive win only single bet. He wont owe me a thing if he loses every day til Xmas, so I have to go in again. Was 16s but 12s now. Saving on Caid du Berlais, who looks to have a big race in him 8s. Its all about the Chelts tho here.

5.25 The Govaness, won a strong heat at Chelts and has some decent stuff in behind, been put away for this and working well. Oleohenah is rated not far behind the best here and ran better on better ground, looks too big at 28s with Sid for an ew save. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 04, 2014, 09:07:54 AM
Good luck today mate!

Watching TML, and wondering - Does this Donn McClean know that Irish horses aren't the only ones running today?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 04, 2014, 09:21:46 AM
Lots to follow there Adz, if I could be so cheeky what would be you Nap and Nb. Have to invest the pennies wisely today. Good luck with all of them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2014, 01:53:33 PM
Sorry, been golfing.

Nap, Many Clouds, but I fear it has become a heart rather than head horse.

NB I like that Beat That has been saved for this.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2014, 05:32:47 PM
Judging by BE thread, I'm glad I got my selections before Mr C.

No collusion here!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 04, 2014, 05:49:34 PM
thanks Adz, lumped into Beat That. Nice little earner.

Let's hope Burton Port hacks up. Although it doesn't matter because we have value don't we!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on April 04, 2014, 05:52:00 PM
Some good stuff there Adz. Looks like a good day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2014, 11:02:26 PM
Cheers guys.

Not overly pleased with the ride Aspell gave Many Clouds. The horse jumps like a stag yet the jockey seemed determined to make him take an extra stride at every fence, breaking up his momentum.

Hopeful of a good day tomorrow but will leave posting til a bit later. They are all picked but best make sure ground doesn't change dramatically.. All free again tomorrow! ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 05, 2014, 10:52:58 AM
Adz what do u think of 9/2 on Victor Hewgo? On the Holywell form it should do ok shouldn't it? Is 9/2 still too skinny?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 10:55:15 AM
Dell Arca in the first today, anyone?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 10:57:32 AM
Adz what do u think of 9/2 on Victor Hewgo? On the Holywell form it should do ok shouldn't it? Is 9/2 still too skinny?

Solid bet for me today. Form is rock solid and all form is on similar tracks. Short but I'm on mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 05, 2014, 12:18:17 PM
Got some multiples to pay for Vegas today



13:30 - Wilde Blue Yonder
14:05 - Next Sensation
15:25 - Victor Hewgo


13:50 - Bertie Blue Boy
14:05 - Next Sensation
14:25 - Munfallet
15:25 - Victor Hewgo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 12:24:57 PM
I have the Vegas trip £1 combi forecast and tricast bets, too :D

Balthazar King/Prince de Beauchen/The Package

Wouldn't we all love that moment when the three of them jump the last ten lengths clear?! :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 12:51:26 PM
1.30. Wilde Blue Yonder retrieval mission as staying on nicely at end of Supreme and a real trends horse 5-1 looks ok ew. When Kilcooley won first time at MRaspberry I was very impressed and looks like it will take to a longer trip. Worth an ew save @25s

2.05 Convinced Trifolium is better than he showed at Chelts and he will be the main bet and the 9/2 available has prompted an opportunity to back him ew. Balder Succes and Wayneo seem a logical saver.

2.50 Whisper has looked better and better this year and surprised me when he gave a TFT fav Saphir du Rhoi a race at FL in the Welsh Champ. I can see the step up bringing further improvement in what looks a weak race behind At Fishers C, who is too short to save on. Win single 11-2. Todays Nap.

3.25 Not very exciting but Victor Hewgo looks a solid fav. Right down the bottom we may have Peter Bowens next Aintree winner and Kians Delight is the saver. He looks like he has been aimed at this all year.

4.15 Hopefully most of you got the 50-1 on Burton. We are looking good there, and a surprisingly bullish Jonjo on TV yesterday has only heightened expectation. Seems very much a booooooooom or bust attempt. Lets hope come 4.30 its the former. I have spotted one today that I hadn't even heard of before the day, and it had totally passed me by. Having watched all its last few races it looks to have been given the perfect AIntree prep and form with Trio and Colbert Station makes me think we may hear more of him as the day goes on.  Last Time Dalbain @ 66s

5.10. Normally would have gone to the pub if things have gone well, but I have been waiting for Court Minstrel to run over 2m in a big field on a tight course on quickish ground. I hope it doesn't rain too much 14s best available now, but this fella is top class given the right conditions. Big EW bet. Kashmir Peak looks to have been aimed at this and is the saver at 25-1.

5.45 I get some very nice info from gary Moores yard and he is very keen on Puisque Tu Pars. good enough for me, but tough and I will be in the pub by now regardless. GL all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 01:54:08 PM
Another amazingly inept Choc performance there. For a "top flight" jock too easily squeezed out at a vital time, and then the standard choc last hurdle howler as he once again forces a mistake at a cruicial time just as he makes an effort. Makes me very sad for Alan King owners.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 01:59:29 PM
Another amazingly inept Choc performance there. For a "top flight" jock too easily squeezed out at a vital time, and then the standard choc last hurdle howler as he once again forces a mistake at a cruicial time just as he makes an effort. Makes me very sad for Alan King owners.

Wouldn't be a big festival without one of those moments :)

I imagine the bookies were paying out with one to jump on AP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 02:03:32 PM
Another amazingly inept Choc performance there. For a "top flight" jock too easily squeezed out at a vital time, and then the standard choc last hurdle howler as he once again forces a mistake at a cruicial time just as he makes an effort. Makes me very sad for Alan King owners.

Wouldn't be a big festival without one of those moments :)

I imagine the bookies were paying out with one to jump on AP

Yup a certain inevitability when you remember AP is on a closer!! Onwards.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 05, 2014, 02:03:53 PM
Another amazingly inept Choc performance there. For a "top flight" jock too easily squeezed out at a vital time, and then the standard choc last hurdle howler as he once again forces a mistake at a cruicial time just as he makes an effort. Makes me very sad for Alan King owners.

Wouldn't be a weekend without one of those moments :)

I imagine the bookies were paying out with one to jump on AP


;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 02:26:57 PM
Balder scoots up under the Mighty Wayneo. What a difference eh.

Incred


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 02:27:24 PM
Lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 02:35:35 PM
Lol

I may well be more than borderline boring about it, but am I even vaguely wrong?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 02:41:21 PM
Lol

I may well be more than borderline boring about it, but am I even vaguely wrong?

Not to these ice cream eyes. I've relished in cheering home horses coming from behind against Choc on several occasions.

But then I'm not a Geraghty fan, so what do I know?

(Not saying he's worse than Choc, Obv...)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 03:14:40 PM
Boooooooooooooom!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 05, 2014, 03:20:17 PM
Well done Adz, there all free here you know!!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Snowball on April 05, 2014, 03:24:39 PM
I had intentions of following you and then looked on Tft and went with Zarakander instead:(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 05, 2014, 04:45:30 PM
I have the Vegas trip £1 combi forecast and tricast bets, too :D

Balthazar King/Prince de Beauchen/The Package

Wouldn't we all love that moment when the three of them jump the last ten lengths clear?! :)

Backed Pineau de Re. Feeling slightly sick now!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 04:55:36 PM
The amount of time I spent studying it.Meh. Fecking lottery..lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 05:35:51 PM
1.30. Wilde Blue Yonder retrieval mission as staying on nicely at end of Supreme and a real trends horse 5-1 looks ok ew. When Kilcooley won first time at MRaspberry I was very impressed and looks like it will take to a longer trip. Worth an ew save @25s

2.05 Convinced Trifolium is better than he showed at Chelts and he will be the main bet and the 9/2 available has prompted an opportunity to back him ew. Balder Succes and Wayneo seem a logical saver.

2.50 Whisper has looked better and better this year and surprised me when he gave a TFT fav Saphir du Rhoi a race at FL in the Welsh Champ. I can see the step up bringing further improvement in what looks a weak race behind At Fishers C, who is too short to save on. Win single 11-2. Todays Nap.

3.25 Not very exciting but Victor Hewgo looks a solid fav. Right down the bottom we may have Peter Bowens next Aintree winner and Kians Delight is the saver. He looks like he has been aimed at this all year.

4.15 Hopefully most of you got the 50-1 on Burton. We are looking good there, and a surprisingly bullish Jonjo on TV yesterday has only heightened expectation. Seems very much a booooooooom or bust attempt. Lets hope come 4.30 its the former. I have spotted one today that I hadn't even heard of before the day, and it had totally passed me by. Having watched all its last few races it looks to have been given the perfect AIntree prep and form with Trio and Colbert Station makes me think we may hear more of him as the day goes on.  Last Time Dalbain @ 66s

5.10. Normally would have gone to the pub if things have gone well, but I have been waiting for Court Minstrel to run over 2m in a big field on a tight course on quickish ground. I hope it doesn't rain too much 14s best available now, but this fella is top class given the right conditions. Big EW bet. Kashmir Peak looks to have been aimed at this and is the saver at 25-1.

5.45 I get some very nice info from gary Moores yard and he is very keen on Puisque Tu Pars. good enough for me, but tough and I will be in the pub by now regardless. GL all


Back in the saddle!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 05, 2014, 05:39:29 PM
1.30. Wilde Blue Yonder retrieval mission as staying on nicely at end of Supreme and a real trends horse 5-1 looks ok ew. When Kilcooley won first time at MRaspberry I was very impressed and looks like it will take to a longer trip. Worth an ew save @25s

2.05 Convinced Trifolium is better than he showed at Chelts and he will be the main bet and the 9/2 available has prompted an opportunity to back him ew. Balder Succes and Wayneo seem a logical saver.

2.50 Whisper has looked better and better this year and surprised me when he gave a TFT fav Saphir du Rhoi a race at FL in the Welsh Champ. I can see the step up bringing further improvement in what looks a weak race behind At Fishers C, who is too short to save on. Win single 11-2. Todays Nap.

3.25 Not very exciting but Victor Hewgo looks a solid fav. Right down the bottom we may have Peter Bowens next Aintree winner and Kians Delight is the saver. He looks like he has been aimed at this all year.

4.15 Hopefully most of you got the 50-1 on Burton. We are looking good there, and a surprisingly bullish Jonjo on TV yesterday has only heightened expectation. Seems very much a booooooooom or bust attempt. Lets hope come 4.30 its the former. I have spotted one today that I hadn't even heard of before the day, and it had totally passed me by. Having watched all its last few races it looks to have been given the perfect AIntree prep and form with Trio and Colbert Station makes me think we may hear more of him as the day goes on.  Last Time Dalbain @ 66s

5.10. Normally would have gone to the pub if things have gone well, but I have been waiting for Court Minstrel to run over 2m in a big field on a tight course on quickish ground. I hope it doesn't rain too much 14s best available now, but this fella is top class given the right conditions. Big EW bet. Kashmir Peak looks to have been aimed at this and is the saver at 25-1.

5.45 I get some very nice info from gary Moores yard and he is very keen on Puisque Tu Pars. good enough for me, but tough and I will be in the pub by now regardless. GL all


Back in the saddle!

How quick lye things change hey Adz! Left that and went for your last, let's hope u clean up towards the end. Well done today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2014, 06:13:38 PM
Meh. Got totally unbalanced at top turn and lost place. Not an ideal place to be on the rail for a big horse, but ran on very nicely. No payday today, but keep it in your tracker.

A pleasing day with the two biggest recommends helping to make a v decent chunk for the one or two of those that followed the lot.

Til next year. Adieu.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on April 05, 2014, 07:10:04 PM
another good day Adz, well done.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 05, 2014, 08:58:07 PM
Meh. Got totally unbalanced at top turn and lost place. Not an ideal place to be on the rail for a big horse, but ran on very nicely. No payday today, but keep it in your tracker.

A pleasing day with the two biggest recommends helping to make a v decent chunk for the one or two of those that followed the lot.

Til next year. Adieu.

Hey hey let's not wait that long, you taking the year off!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 06, 2014, 11:42:59 AM

The Stewards Room must have been pretty crowded.......


http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/apr/05/jockeys-revolt-false-start-grand-national


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 13, 2014, 10:30:31 AM
Having been mixing it between 6f and a mile in the hottest of races, his last race was in the Breeders Cup Mile, and wasn't beaten that far, Cristoforo Columbo finally runs over 7f.

At 4s it looks worth a decent ew bet. This looks like his distance to me.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 13, 2014, 10:39:38 AM
Nothing like an early morning treasure hunt ;)

Found the treasure - 15:55 @ Curragh

Good luck us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 14, 2014, 09:33:12 AM
15.40 Pontefract anyone any thoughts on Spruzzo, described as thorough stayer and previous winner of this race DG, in which many have stamina doubts. Of course recent form is poor, thus 20-1 is offered.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 16, 2014, 10:17:36 AM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/beverley/15:05/winner

the 11/2 thats still just there Singeur is well worth backing each way imo

Pretty simple case really

Course and Distance record 122

2nd start after a break over 5 furlongs 1111

Loves the track the ground drying out to more good to firm suits him more than it does most of the others. Cant beat the fav on the last run but first run after a break is always a pipe opener and soft ground is a complete no no.

Added bonus is the excellent Jason Hart has started the season really well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on April 16, 2014, 01:26:49 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/beverley/15:05/winner

the 11/2 thats still just there Singeur is well worth backing each way imo

Pretty simple case really

Course and Distance record 122

2nd start after a break over 5 furlongs 1111

Loves the track the ground drying out to more good to firm suits him more than it does most of the others. Cant beat the fav on the last run but first run after a break is always a pipe opener and soft ground is a complete no no.

Added bonus is the excellent Jason Hart has started the season really well.
Had a weekend break on Whitby just stopped off at Beverly races so will have a few bob on this.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 16, 2014, 01:30:08 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/beverley/15:05/winner

the 11/2 thats still just there Singeur is well worth backing each way imo

Pretty simple case really

Course and Distance record 122

2nd start after a break over 5 furlongs 1111

Loves the track the ground drying out to more good to firm suits him more than it does most of the others. Cant beat the fav on the last run but first run after a break is always a pipe opener and soft ground is a complete no no.

Added bonus is the excellent Jason Hart has started the season really well.

Thanks John, a small EW wager has been had.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 16, 2014, 01:41:54 PM
Obviously the fancied horse, been hammered in from a first show of 12/1 yesterday.

Got my tuppence on it's back now as well, so good luck everyone!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 16, 2014, 03:29:39 PM
hammered even more before the start

beaten about a nose for 3rd but no excuses


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on April 17, 2014, 01:06:35 PM
hammered even more before the start

beaten about a nose for 3rd but no excuses

Had a wee flutter at 11/2 ew - was sure it squeezed into 3rd.

What a lovely little course Beverley is - would go there again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Matt.NFFC. on April 21, 2014, 10:09:32 AM
Off to Market Rasen today with the kids.....anyone got any tips?

(other than leave the kids at home!)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on April 22, 2014, 02:10:45 PM
Love the Neesom.

In the space of 10secs he criticised a Racing Post betting forecast and roffled at a Kenny Johnson horse going off evens.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on April 25, 2014, 03:42:41 PM
That's just blown the Hcap mark Chompy.

Won 13k and will prob get put up 15  pounds.?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on April 25, 2014, 04:19:44 PM
Yuh, impressive that one. Sometimes wonder about Fahey. Just read his Sporting Life column, so unbelievably zzzzzzzz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 26, 2014, 02:00:38 PM
Un De Sceaux is a monster!

Just raced Gemix (and others) again over 2m 4f, with Ruby taking the reins this time, and nothing got close.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 27, 2014, 10:28:38 PM
Treve's race from today

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_D0otTJX7Q


Not too sure about the camerawork...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 29, 2014, 08:41:08 AM
Punchestown 16:20

Dirty each way hoping eight stay in

Western Boy @ 8-1
Wicklow Brave @ 16-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2014, 12:35:52 PM
Quite keen to take on Faugheen too. Will be ew on Valsuer Lido who was impressive in a race known to produce the winner fairly often. He also wasn't far behind your two in the Supreme, Omm and given a much easier race, and looks an improver.


I like Djakadam in the 3miler getting plenty of allowances and Ruby up top. Was till going v nicely in the Jewson when falling 4 out.

FWIW, also hope to see Six Wives run well in the 4.50 at Notts after her decent comeback run. Should be spot on now.GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 29, 2014, 01:13:39 PM
Quite keen to take on Faugheen too. Will be ew on Valsuer Lido who was impressive in a race known to produce the winner fairly often. He also wasn't far behind your two in the Supreme, Omm and given a much easier race, and looks an improver.


I like Djakadam in the 3miler getting plenty of allowances and Ruby up top. Was till going v nicely in the Jewson when falling 4 out.

FWIW, also hope to see Six Wives run well in the 4.50 at Notts after her decent comeback run. Should be spot on now.GL

Djakadam now a non runner. Six Wives I'm on, Goodluck and thanks. I don't really think any of the ew bets can be bad in Faugheen's race, could make an arguement for all of them apart from the outsider, should be a good race. I like Baily Green later too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 29, 2014, 04:48:23 PM
:o :o :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2014, 04:50:09 PM
About as impressive a performance I have seen all year at the top level.

At least we got the ew money.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 29, 2014, 05:12:12 PM
About as impressive a performance I have seen all year at the top level.

At least we got the ew money.

Ridiculously strong showing, and it looks like it's time for The Liquidator to be put through one...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2014, 05:17:05 PM
About as impressive a performance I have seen all year at the top level.

At least we got the ew money.

Ridiculously strong showing, and it looks like it's time for The Liquidator to be put through one...


bit harsh mate. Not turned out to be what we hoped but he was 4th, in a strong field. Not sure he will ever carry any of my serious dough again, but sure he will pay his way at a certain level.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2014, 05:37:33 PM
Six Wives traded as low as 1.23, and my nitty 1.5 trade got me out, but she was run out of it in last furlong sadly for the full wedge.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 29, 2014, 05:57:30 PM
About as impressive a performance I have seen all year at the top level.

At least we got the ew money.

Ridiculously strong showing, and it looks like it's time for The Liquidator to be put through one...


bit harsh mate. Not turned out to be what we hoped but he was 4th, in a strong field. Not sure he will ever carry any of my serious dough again, but sure he will pay his way at a certain level.


Saw it was in a heap bar the 12 lengths to Faugheen, and he didn't seem to jump as well as he normally does.

Te opportunity for a play on his name was there, so seemed a shame not to use it ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 29, 2014, 06:00:58 PM
cheered home Sizing there without a penny on

great old warrior lovely beast


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 29, 2014, 06:42:50 PM
cheered home Sizing there without a penny on

great old warrior lovely beast

Me too, great gesture to retire him after that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on April 29, 2014, 07:38:25 PM
Quevega racing on Thursday 4/5.
Thoughts


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 29, 2014, 07:39:21 PM
Quite keen to take on Faugheen too. Will be ew on Valsuer Lido who was impressive in a race known to produce the winner fairly often. He also wasn't far behind your two in the Supreme, Omm and given a much easier race, and looks an improver.


I like Djakadam in the 3miler getting plenty of allowances and Ruby up top. Was till going v nicely in the Jewson when falling 4 out.

FWIW, also hope to see Six Wives run well in the 4.50 at Notts after her decent comeback run. Should be spot on now.GL

You knew Adz, thought Western Boy had more of a chance turning for home but Valsuer Lido fought well. Good call. Fantastic animal Faugheen. Any views on tmrw?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2014, 07:48:02 PM
About as impressive a performance I have seen all year at the top level.

At least we got the ew money.

Ridiculously strong showing, and it looks like it's time for The Liquidator to be put through one...


bit harsh mate. Not turned out to be what we hoped but he was 4th, in a strong field. Not sure he will ever carry any of my serious dough again, but sure he will pay his way at a certain level.


Saw it was in a heap bar the 12 lengths to Faugheen, and he didn't seem to jump as well as he normally does.

Te opportunity for a play on his name was there, so seemed a shame not to use it ;)


We have called things far worse between us mate!

Great to see Sizing win, he was the rock solid one and a big price too.

Liking the cards tomorrow, so will get something up later hopefully.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 29, 2014, 08:09:42 PM
Yeah, was nice to see Ballynagour run a decent race too.

I'm on wind down mode now, and just railing for the most part over the next few weeks.

Will no doubt get involved in anything you put up though!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2014, 09:46:25 PM
Cheltanian has to be backed.in the 4.20 at Punches at 3s
He was purchased by Roger B after a run at Punches, when second for Liz Doyle a few years back. He obv went onto win the Champion Bumper, and has had some issues since that kept him off for a year or so, but slowly he has come back to the sort of form that he promised.

Last time out he cruised into the lead over 2.4m at Aintree, but according to Johnson, was still a little green and got there too soon in a big field. Hobbs has a good record at Punches and I'm told he has him buzzing.

As an aside, Liz Doyle has the second fav, who she once offered to Roger, but stated he wasn't the same horse as Cheltanian. A lot has happened since then to both horses, but its one of those things that sticks with you.

Aside of all this he is clear top rated by people that know far more than me! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 30, 2014, 11:34:34 AM
The 4.55 at Punch has two horses at the top of the market that I had good touches on last time, Beat Time and Dom Poli. Third fav in this was the impressive Bartlett winner Very Wood. At first glance, and it probably will be, it looks a race between the three of them. Beat Time was awesome last time and has had an easy time of it so far this year and I may well back him if he goes 2-1.

However, I fancy a tiny ew dabble on Thunder and Roses who has looked like better ground will suit him more. He has proven form over 3m and at 50s in places, I have to have a little ew, in a race that seems to produce big price winners consistently.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 30, 2014, 12:01:52 PM
First Lieutenant looks eminently backable e/w in the gold cup especially with Geraghty on fire at the moment  - even better with PP money back offer and 6-1 best price currently


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 30, 2014, 12:14:50 PM
The 4.55 at Punch has two horses at the top of the market that I had good touches on last time, Beat Time and Dom Poli. Third fav in this was the impressive Bartlett winner Very Wood. At first glance, and it probably will be, it looks a race between the three of them. Beat Time was awesome last time and has had an easy time of it so far this year and I may well back him if he goes 2-1.

However, I fancy a tiny ew dabble on Thunder and Roses who has looked like better ground will suit him more. He has proven form over 3m and at 50s in places, I have to have a little ew, in a race that seems to produce big price winners consistently.

I chucked Very Wood in a trixie last night with Cheltenian and Bob, so I better have a couple quid as cover on T&R.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 30, 2014, 05:04:02 PM
Apparently Chelt lost a shoe when he got caught up jumping around the faller Wounded Warrior, which wouldn't have helped, but to my eyes, didnt affect the result, almost looked to me like he didn't stay....ho hum.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 30, 2014, 05:21:51 PM
beautiful,  well done Adz,  it's that man Geraghty again


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 01, 2014, 11:15:20 AM
Surely At Fishers Cross has to be an EW bet to nothing against Quevaga?

She impresses me less each time she runs, and with a decent field assembled her, not sure if laying her or backing AFC ew is the better option.

Thoughts?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 01, 2014, 01:47:58 PM
I prefer the e/w shot to nothing route, have done Fingal Bay myself. Also took the 11/4 about Balder Succes, though without super strong feelings about the race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 01, 2014, 07:03:43 PM
Barry G, without doubt a monster jockey.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 01, 2014, 09:20:03 PM
Barry G, without doubt a monster jockey.

Only just watched the race, but some boy isn't he...

You think Wayneo getting into a battle with CF did for him?

One of my AP tickets for the 1000 went up in smoke today too :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 02, 2014, 02:52:43 PM
A change of profile picture for today's only selection at Punchestown.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 02, 2014, 03:28:25 PM
A change of profile picture for today's only selection at Punchestown.

Is that Ray Parlour?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 02, 2014, 04:55:25 PM
Did well to battle on for 3rd there, good shout mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 04, 2014, 03:23:56 PM
Worth keeping an eye on Forcible in the 4.25

Trained by David Brown for the meeting sponsors, he/they obviously target the race each year as he had the winner in 2012 and a close up 4th last year. Qatar Racing also have Lightening Stride and are also the employers of David Redvers who had the winner last year, and I believe is head of the Clipper Logistics syndicate who have Shackled N Drawn.

Forcible looks quite big at 16s on Betty based on the past efforts of Qatar to win this( it maybe their own Optimal Strategy!)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 04, 2014, 03:55:14 PM
16:25 - The get me out stakes ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 04, 2014, 04:45:42 PM
WIDE


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 05, 2014, 12:13:22 PM
Today's Bets, all e/w except Grasped:

2.40 Beverley   Proclamationofwar   16/1   seemed a big price given probs didnt want soft last time
3.15 Beverley   Grasped   7/4                     obvious form claims
3.25 Kempton   Western King   11/1            likes the ground and appears to go well fresh
4.00 Kempton   Wintered Well   12/1            have to forgive a poor run in a much better race and hope trip ok (this one had most reservations about)
4.35 Kempton   Pepite Rose   13/2            Can it defy top weight ?, thought it was worth a chance at the price

I thought I'ld put my own picks up in this thread, I've only just started trying to take this more seriously and would be interested if anyone has any feedback.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 05, 2014, 12:51:00 PM
Pepite Rose is one of my Favs and so pleased to see her run such a massive race against SDG last time.

Obviously in good form still or they wouldn't run her, but my concern is she just doesn't seem as consistent going right handed.

No doubt I will still partake.

Only one horse I been waiting to reappear today. Ixselles Diamond of Fahey 3.40 Wawick. Hoping it will improve for step up. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 05, 2014, 01:58:45 PM
Had a small word for Free Entry in the first at Bevers today.

It's first time on the track, so who knows how it will react, but definitely worth a couple of quid at 8 or 10/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 05, 2014, 02:16:54 PM
Had a small word for Free Entry in the first at Bevers today.

It's first time on the track, so who knows how it will react, but definitely worth a couple of quid at 8 or 10/1.

8/1 best now, a small investment has been made, thanks Keith.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 05, 2014, 02:25:37 PM
:( sorry guys - one more stride and we we'd have won.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 05, 2014, 02:25:46 PM
Wowzer.

Mulrenan just needed a slap a touch earlier.

Great info Camel. Cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 05, 2014, 02:25:57 PM
Had a small word for Free Entry in the first at Bevers today.

It's first time on the track, so who knows how it will react, but definitely worth a couple of quid at 8 or 10/1.

8/1 best now, a small investment has been made, thanks Keith.


Oooh, very close!

We just needed another stride, but still a bit of profit, thanks Keith.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 05, 2014, 02:27:33 PM
Thanks for the heads up Keith, very unlucky there mate :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 05, 2014, 02:27:47 PM
Wowzer.

Mulrenan just needed a slap a touch earlier.

Great info Camel. Cheers

Think Mulrennan thought he was beat a furlong out and was planning minimal effort.

But it took off for a slap.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Acidmouse on May 05, 2014, 02:29:15 PM
listening to this on radio was fun, sounded close! good call small profit.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 05, 2014, 05:10:25 PM
Today's Bets, all e/w except Grasped:

2.40 Beverley   Proclamationofwar   16/1   seemed a big price given probs didnt want soft last time
3.15 Beverley   Grasped   7/4                     obvious form claims
3.25 Kempton   Western King   11/1            likes the ground and appears to go well fresh
4.00 Kempton   Wintered Well   12/1            have to forgive a poor run in a much better race and hope trip ok (this one had most reservations about)
4.35 Kempton   Pepite Rose   13/2            Can it defy top weight ?, thought it was worth a chance at the price

I thought I'ld put my own picks up in this thread, I've only just started trying to take this more seriously and would be interested if anyone has any feedback.
Not the best start, 4/4 unplaced and a non-runnner. Oh well, things can only get better from here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 05, 2014, 06:53:15 PM
Pepite Rose is one of my Favs and so pleased to see her run such a massive race against SDG last time.

Obviously in good form still or they wouldn't run her, but my concern is she just doesn't seem as consistent going right handed.

No doubt I will still partake.

Only one horse I been waiting to reappear today. Ixselles Diamond of Fahey 3.40 Wawick. Hoping it will improve for step up. GL

boom boom, back from holiday at 14:00 and walked into a chicken dinner!! thanks Adam, just got back the money i spent on 4 days away with the kiddles. Top tippage as usual, i know its not true what they say about you :-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 05, 2014, 07:14:37 PM
Cheers mate. 8s into 9/2, gamble landed.

Yes I feel like a combo of Osama and Saddam on Blonde atm.

Will PM you them in future Omm. Even my thick skin getting bored of posting in a vacuum of interest. ;popcorn;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 05, 2014, 07:22:42 PM
Cheers mate. 8s into 9/2, gamble landed.

Yes I feel like a combo of Osama and Saddam on Blonde atm.

Will PM you them in future Omm. Even my thick skin getting bored of posting in a vacuum of interest. ;popcorn;

I don't think any worse of you than I did when I first learned you're a gooner.

Hope that helps.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on May 05, 2014, 07:30:19 PM
Cheers mate. 8s into 9/2, gamble landed.

Yes I feel like a combo of Osama and Saddam on Blonde atm.

Will PM you them in future Omm. Even my thick skin getting bored of posting in a vacuum of interest. ;popcorn;

Keep posting them Adz, I wasn't on that one but appreciate it when you post them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on May 05, 2014, 07:37:21 PM
yeah keep posting adz, haters can ignore punters can join in ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 05, 2014, 07:59:44 PM
Cheers mate. 8s into 9/2, gamble landed.

Yes I feel like a combo of Osama and Saddam on Blonde atm.

Will PM you them in future Omm. Even my thick skin getting bored of posting in a vacuum of interest. ;popcorn;

further to my PM Adam, Difference of opinions are what keeps forum's going, certainly dont stop posting as you know a lot of blondes love hearing your take on things, especially the nags, and there is certainly nothing wrong with going against popular opinion, suppose your opinion's are not always as popular as others but certainly just as valid. Up the O's!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on May 05, 2014, 08:25:58 PM
yeah keep posting adz, haters can ignore punters can join in ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 05, 2014, 09:51:02 PM
LOL

I wasn't saying I was leaving or owt!!

No, I just got the impression if I posted, only Omm and Marky bothered getting involved. Not gonna spend my time posting for lurkers to take advantage, while I think I'm talking to myself.

Call me a tosser when they lose if you like, but it does feel like I'm talking to myself in there most of the time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on May 05, 2014, 10:13:03 PM
I like your winners too.

When your picks lose though, do some maths work on the horses. :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on May 05, 2014, 10:42:46 PM
I'm in for tosser / hero posts.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 05, 2014, 10:44:48 PM
Nice winner Adz well done

Only not posting in here as have started a "proper" job again and just dont have the time to look at day to day stuff as often as before


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 05, 2014, 10:52:09 PM
I'm in for tosser posts.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 05, 2014, 11:32:24 PM
Defo keep posting them up mate, I don't always back them but I like to read your thoughts. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on May 06, 2014, 12:23:02 AM
I tend to back your losers not your winners! But enjoy trying to learn and same with Scotty on the dogs gives me a nice sweat when otherwise I would be punting blind!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 06, 2014, 10:43:38 AM
Today's bets:

4.00 Fakenham   Lamb Or Cod   5/6

5.40 Fairyhouse   Royal Shot           20/1   Doesn't seem like this would have to improve much to have a real chance here, backed e/w 4 places  with BV (PP are paying 5 places, but unfortunately make it a 12/1 shot)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2014, 12:41:52 PM
My fav flat meeting of the year starts tomorrow up in Chester, and now going to be busy until racing tomorrow, but prices available for each of the races I'm interested in so....

1.45. Lily Agnes Stakes. Its sponsored by Michael Owen who owns Manor house Stables where Tom Dascombe trains and they are always very keen to win this. I recall Julius Geezer wining in 2010 the last time i went(in the Betfred-i think-bookies in town after racing, me and a friend had the last leg of a treble running onto The Cool Guy at the Chelt Hunter Chase evening. In the bookies was a certain statistical dressing gown wearing pundit from the tv, who had me and my mate in stitches everytime he kept taking his false teeth out and checking them for food bits. So much we missed cheering our horse home....happy days). Anyway, he also had the winner last year.
This year, the stable have a once raced horse called Roudee(The Roodeye is the nickname of Chester Race Course, so I think you know where this is going). it won its only race and looks to be just the ticket.
Sadly it has a very poor draw out in 9, but this also looks a moderate race, with lots of the entries being form smaller stables and not much form, and I have to suggest a little ew at 11/2 with Slybet or Sid.

2.45. i mentioned to a few people over the last week I fancied Glenard for the Chester Cup at slightly bigger prices, i must confess. Every time they step this horse up it looks to improve a smidge but always leaving the impression, a bit further would help even more. Hills family love winners at chester, and there has been money for it since it got the last place in the race. Again drawn badly, but looks a poor Chester Cup to me, and ew @ 10s still looks just about ok.

Finally one the form book boys will laugh at...
3.15 Ballesteros. Bought by Marwan Koooolcash, who targets Chester winners, like I target the kebab shop every Saturday night. This horse has a single chester run a couple of years ago but he was a most impressive winner, and he is now only two pounds above that mark but with a trainer who seems to be getting a new tune from him. Fahey, also has bought into the MK desire for Chester success and will be doing his best to please his biggest patron.
Theme of the day, drawn badly, but he is a slow starter anyway, and if you get a good draw here as a slow starter, that can often cause you more problems, than being drawn a bit wider, and therfore having time to find your legs/flo in the race. His last race at Newbury looked like a lovely limber up for this, and with Frank booked I think 10s looks tidy with WH.

Gonna need some luck in running tomorrow, but sure we have three horses tuned up to give their best. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 06, 2014, 12:49:01 PM
Go on then. Make me rich.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 06, 2014, 01:24:44 PM
Cheers Adamski... lovely little trixie for a Wednesday afternoon!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on May 06, 2014, 06:28:24 PM
Glenard in 2:45 with paddypower is money back if second or third.

Paying top 4 too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2014, 06:44:22 PM
Go careful with Ballesteros. It looks like he may have Olazabal feet!

Apparently he had sore feet this morning and may not run, but as Koooolcash is always keen to have runners galore, who knows.

I'm already on but the normal day of race top up, I shall leave.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 06, 2014, 06:49:51 PM
I really really fancy Caspian Prince in the 3.15.

Love the jockey booking too.

Drawn in one, they won't see which way he's gone.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 06, 2014, 06:51:29 PM
Go careful with Ballesteros. It looks like he may have Olazabal feet!

Apparently he had sore feet this morning and may not run, but as Koooolcash is always keen to have runners galore, who knows.

I'm already on but the normal day of race top up, I shall leave.

As long as he hasn't got my legs, we'll hopefully be ok ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 06, 2014, 08:17:38 PM
Today's bets:

4.00 Fakenham   Lamb Or Cod   5/6

5.40 Fairyhouse   Royal Shot           20/1   Doesn't seem like this would have to improve much to have a real chance here, backed e/w 4 places  with BV (PP are paying 5 places, but unfortunately make it a 12/1 shot)
An odds-on winner and a non-runner today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 06, 2014, 08:30:21 PM
I really really fancy Caspian Prince in the 3.15.

Love the jockey booking too.

Drawn in one, they won't see which way he's gone.

I used to go to Chester for the May Meeting every year and can't say I backed many in trap 9.  We need funds for our scoop 6 addiction.  Seems to be getting backed but still 11/2 with beteverydayoftheyeae and you get that 4/1 offer.  Go the Prince.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2014, 09:01:06 PM
After seeing the Ballesteros news, better have a save on the Camel horse. Cant say Ive ever seen him really really anything! GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 06, 2014, 09:08:42 PM
Like Suegioo in the Cup

Nice low draw

Races up with the pace

Breeding and running style suggests this big step up in trip will help

Ryan Moore booked

No pace really amongst the low numbers be surprised if Moore is not in a good position with 2 furlongs to go, whether the horse fancies it/good enough from there im not sure,

Backed it at 16's earlier today

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 06, 2014, 09:09:45 PM
After seeing the Ballesteros news, better have a save on the Camel horse. Cant say Ive ever seen him really really anything! GL

If ever I've seen a horse tailor made for a course it's Caspian Prince and Chester.

And when he got he the red box I imagine Tony Carroll got his tired old todger out and knocked one out.

Probably miss the kick now I've given it the big build up, but take a look at a couple of his videos.

Flying machine.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2014, 09:14:30 PM
After seeing the Ballesteros news, better have a save on the Camel horse. Cant say Ive ever seen him really really anything! GL

If ever I've seen a horse tailor made for a course it's Caspian Prince and Chester.

And when he got he the red box I imagine Tony Carroll got his tired old todger out and knocked one out.

Probably miss the kick now I've given it the big build up, but take a look at a couple of his videos.

Flying machine.

Infectious Mr H!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 06, 2014, 09:17:40 PM
Also like SIR MAXIMILIAN in the sprint

Goes well/best fresh

fairly handicapped

good draw

good chester form

Nicky Vaughan to Tim Pitt a plus (trainer switch)

8/1 is fair


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2014, 09:19:22 PM
Sorry horsey...am now seriously overstaked as it is!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 06, 2014, 09:23:59 PM
np think my last racing winner was sometime in deepest winter in a class 6 staying event at Southwell


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2014, 09:24:31 PM
Then ur dangerous and due!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 06, 2014, 10:38:27 PM
There's another horse I'm interested in tomorrow.

Lady Yeates in the last.

Zoomed to the top of my horses to follow list with a wildly impressive win at Redcar, when she was so unfit she had a bigger belly than me.

Somewhat surprised Moore is running her at a speed track like Chester as she looks like she will improve the further she goes.

Going to throw away tuppence happenny on her at 8/1, but she is definitely one to watch tomorrow and in coming weeks. I think she could improve a stone on her current mark.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 06, 2014, 10:42:03 PM
Talked myself into having a pay for a trip Vegas Lucky 15

Cheerio Sweetie 11/4
Mubaraza 5/1
Caspian Prince 11/2
Lady Yeates 8/1


gogogogogo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 06, 2014, 11:00:44 PM
Anyone have a view on Uganda Glory as a potential e/w shot to nothing @ 6-1 in 3.35 Brighton tomorrow? I was looking at this race in light of recent comments in TFT re. the importance of course form at Brighton. My reservation with UG is she doesn't appear to go well after a break, though does have C&D form. The favourite Nesterenko 10/11 has been hurdling over 2 miles and has no form on comparable racecourses that I can see.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 06, 2014, 11:46:17 PM
Anyone have a view on Uganda Glory as a potential e/w shot to nothing @ 6-1 in 3.35 Brighton tomorrow? I was looking at this race in light of recent comments in TFT re. the importance of course form at Brighton. My reservation with UG is she doesn't appear to go well after a break, though does have C&D form. The favourite Nesterenko 10/11 has been hurdling over 2 miles and has no form on comparable racecourses that I can see.


Interesting jockey booking, surprised Crowley isn't at Chester.

I would suggest the horse hasn't exactly been campaigned on its merits thus far.

Was in my "to watch" book all last season.

Would be surprised if tomorrow was the day as it is up against a potentially very well hamdicapped horse.

Brakes on whatto!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on May 07, 2014, 11:10:52 AM
Ballasteros confirmed NR.

Done a mix and match for today. Let's get em.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 07, 2014, 11:14:53 AM
Paddy has some offers on Chester card. Money back if 2nd or 3rd in the 2:45 and extra place on the 3:15 IIRC


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 11:18:09 AM
Thats good(I think?!).

Didn't want Camel tears(as I am probably the best reader of stall 14 horses in sprints at Chester in the whole of the UK) and now we can all row in together!! ;)

GL everyone


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 07, 2014, 11:25:18 AM
You really backing a 2yo from stall 9 Adzy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 11:39:36 AM
You really backing a 2yo from stall 9 Adzy?


Uh oh. I wondered when the draw police would surface!!

I did question myself on this point, but Dascombe and Owen always have their charge for this race spot on(or seem to). The form of his last race has worked out with two behind winning their next races

I would, though,refer my learned colleague to last years renewal where they won it from stall 8!! The 3 that broke fastest were 7,8,9.

It may be asking a lot for lightening to strike twice, but in answer to your question, yes Siree! I am on ew btw.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2014, 12:04:38 PM
You really backing a 2yo from stall 9 Adzy?


Uh oh. I wondered when the draw police would surface!!

I did question myself on this point, but Dascombe and Owen always have their charge for this race spot on(or seem to). The form of his last race has worked out with two behind winning their next races

I would, though,refer my learned colleague to last years renewal where they won it from stall 8!! The 3 that broke fastest were 7,8,9.

It may be asking a lot for lightening to strike twice, but in answer to your question, yes Siree! I am on ew btw.

Draw police surfaced at 8.30 PM yesterday.  Chompy is the chief draw rozzer tho.  Backed everything else but couldn't bring myself to back that one. 

Good luck everyone. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 12:24:46 PM
I know the maths play is go low, but if it was that easy etc etc.

I can only put up what i fancy and why i fancy it, no one is obliged to follow. I readily admit i dont get it right on a lot of occasions, but if you follow me on this thread you will do ok.  ;topofclass; (However I am NOT the foremost racing expert in the whole of the UK....nearly, but not quite. rotflmfao)

In the last few years, I have seen many many tips i just couldnt see winning. However my personal chosen avenue is to try and encourage participation, or say nothing..... ;whistle; ;D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 07, 2014, 12:54:33 PM
Bets for today, prices taken last night. Will obv. be following many of the selections itt, but these were my picks
4.10 Brighton   Aqua Ardens   7/4
9.15 Kempton   Anjuna Beach   15/8

3.35 Brighton   Uganda Glory   6/1      Couldn't resist a tiny e/w bet, but definitely should have done. Note to self: time spent looking at a race shouldn't mean you try to force a bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 01:59:45 PM
I was impressed with Mukhmal at Mussy when it beat Cheerio Sweetie quite comfortably on debut.  Obviously as has been discussed the draw at Chester is super important but if Hanagan can get Mukhamal in a nice position early it could run a big race, Obviously i am typing this prior to seeing the horse going nuts in the paddock and my cash is already down. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2014, 02:09:29 PM
I was impressed with Mukhmal at Mussy when it beat Cheerio Sweetie quite comfortably on debut.  Obviously as has been discussed the draw at Chester is super important but if Hanagan can get Mukhamal in a nice position early it could run a big race, Obviously i am typing this prior to seeing the horse going nuts in the paddock and my cash is already down. 

N1.  10 from 9.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 07, 2014, 02:09:37 PM
Backing The Draw For Profit 2014

High numbers are best at Chester.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 02:11:12 PM
Must be variance....... ;whistle;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 02:14:10 PM
Happy with that.  I think this could turn out to be a decent type.   It won that well, taking into account that it used up lots of energy in the paddock and also in the early part of that race.  

At Mussy the last time which is normally a track for proper speedy types it wasn't in the van early but took it up about 1 and a half from home and stayed on well winning easily.  



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 02:14:37 PM
Must be variance....... ;whistle;

I would say so mate when I am on the winner ;-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 02:16:37 PM
Its easy after, but they were the best two on paper before the race.

thankfully the experts get bogged down with history and statistics and give those that can see the wood for the trees, a better price. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 07, 2014, 02:19:58 PM
Second?

That's no good.

Each Way nits ::)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2014, 02:21:26 PM
Its easy after, but they were the best two on paper before the race.

thankfully the experts get bogged down with history and statistics and give those that can see the wood for the trees, a better price. ;)

Sample size confirmed big enough.  Both of us 0-1 yo.   ;nana;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on May 07, 2014, 02:23:39 PM
Second will do me. Over to Glenard to bring home the bacon for the cheeky ew double.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 02:24:14 PM
Its easy after, but they were the best two on paper before the race.

thankfully the experts get bogged down with history and statistics and give those that can see the wood for the trees, a better price. ;)

Sample size confirmed big enough.  Both of us 0-1 yo.   ;nana;


TY Doobs, I like ur style.x


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2014, 02:32:15 PM
Got Bright Approach on the Hills betting for nits offer at 5/2.  Flash vs form.  Draw not so important here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 02:35:43 PM
Secret Pursuit smallis e/w for me. 

And two fore casts with Terrific/Sweet Pursuit and Terrific/Lady Tyne


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2014, 02:41:21 PM
Secret Pursuit smallis e/w for me. 

And two fore casts with Terrific/Sweet Pursuit and Terrific/Lady Tyne

Confirmed boss


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 07, 2014, 02:41:41 PM
ul kmac /well done in first and each way money there

Very game fillies there the front two


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 02:44:06 PM
Thought we were going to do a win.  I actually looked at Anipa, but i have this habit of never betting Atzeni on a winner.  That trend continues, pretty sure if I punted that Secret Pursuit would have got up.  FML.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 02:45:16 PM
LOL, stop it.

FML after a winner and a second, you must run v good!

Keep it up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 02:51:34 PM
I had them on a ucky 15 win only :-(

I couldn't have Top Cop at Brighton with stolen money.  If I had the funds on betty i'd be a layer. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2014, 03:16:54 PM
Like Suegioo in the Cup

Nice low draw

Races up with the pace

Breeding and running style suggests this big step up in trip will help

Ryan Moore booked

No pace really amongst the low numbers be surprised if Moore is not in a good position with 2 furlongs to go, whether the horse fancies it/good enough from there im not sure,

Backed it at 16's earlier today

gd lk all

top tipping HP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 03:17:23 PM
Booom!

there you go Horsey! Nowt so dangerous as a moan!. Had a little save on it so wp sir, ty.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 07, 2014, 03:18:55 PM
Nice One Horsey, I dithered till very last minute but thankfully didn't want to leave your fancy out. Wondered if it was ever gonna get a run there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 07, 2014, 03:20:36 PM
Like Suegioo in the Cup

Nice low draw

Races up with the pace

Breeding and running style suggests this big step up in trip will help

Ryan Moore booked

No pace really amongst the low numbers be surprised if Moore is not in a good position with 2 furlongs to go, whether the horse fancies it/good enough from there im not sure,

Backed it at 16's earlier today

gd lk all

Wonderful, well done John, and glad you had a bit on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 03:25:39 PM
N1 Horsey, I never realised that was your selection I was on that as well.  Sadly not at 16's.  I have 2 winners and a place on my lucky 15.  I could have been doing the Vegas trip camel mentioned if Secret Pursuit had won. 

I am on Confessional in the next so still a small chance of a decent return. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 03:35:03 PM
Sadly Glenard the dreaded 5th.


Only thing to do is combo FC/TC on the next with the three posted advices on here. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 07, 2014, 03:36:13 PM
Well done horsey, even though Spencer tried to run him off the track :D

Would have been fun watching that one in the stewards room had he not got up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2014, 03:42:37 PM
Horsey confirmed boss status


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 07, 2014, 03:42:39 PM
Also like SIR MAXIMILIAN in the sprint

Goes well/best fresh

fairly handicapped

good draw

good chester form

Nicky Vaughan to Tim Pitt a plus (trainer switch)

8/1 is fair

Confirmed on fire.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 07, 2014, 03:43:01 PM
wow i can still tip winners

thanks all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 07, 2014, 03:43:32 PM
What is horsey doing working for a living?


Too good, well done mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 07, 2014, 03:44:15 PM
Open to offers Keith

Thanks mate means a lot



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
Turn your attention to Brighton Horsey. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 07, 2014, 03:45:27 PM
Despite being very close to Brighton geographical wise Kmac would be the last track i punt at or visit

good luck though


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 03:47:50 PM
Great work chaps. Horsey back on form, good news

£31 forecast if anyone else joined in?! ;cheerleader;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 07, 2014, 03:56:18 PM
Oi oi horsey! Incred scenes!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 07, 2014, 03:58:33 PM
Fantastic work by Fallon  ;whistle;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: rfgqqabc on May 07, 2014, 04:05:08 PM
Oioi, great work from the team and esp horsey!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 07, 2014, 04:34:44 PM
Well done Horsey, saw the first but somehow missed the second so got back what Adz lost me today  ;yippee;

The king is dead long live the king!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2014, 04:42:55 PM
I "only" chucked in a £30 fc for all my fans late on......no pleasing you lot ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 07, 2014, 05:01:45 PM
I "only" chucked in a £30 fc for all my fans late on......no pleasing you lot ;)

Haha, just re read a few posts, I must have been asleep half the afternoon. Well done Adz hope u got the lot.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 07, 2014, 05:20:42 PM
Nice work Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 07, 2014, 05:23:52 PM
They've flown round in the first 5 races but walked for a mile in the one race I wanted a strong pace.

Oh well, she didn't run at all badly, there will be another day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on May 07, 2014, 08:47:13 PM
great calls today guys.

vwp


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 07, 2014, 09:48:40 PM
Bets for today, prices taken last night. Will obv. be following many of the selections itt, but these were my picks
4.10 Brighton   Aqua Ardens   7/4
9.15 Kempton   Anjuna Beach   15/8

3.35 Brighton   Uganda Glory   6/1      Couldn't resist a tiny e/w bet, but definitely should have done. Note to self: time spent looking at a race shouldn't mean you try to force a bet.
Hmmm,,  nil returns today. Was at least correct in wanting to oppose the fav Nesterenko in the 3.35 which finished plumb last. As for the 9.15 if there was any attempt made to get Anjuna Beach into contention I must have missed it !



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 08, 2014, 10:44:54 AM
I presume its bad weather up north as well as down here

Dont fancy a thing at Chester today infact looks impossible.

Half fancy something at Southwell but missed the bigger prices, will have another look this afternoon and if big enough will post it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 08, 2014, 11:17:29 AM
Tough as suggested, but having a little ew on Strictly Silver in the first. Fallon up and seems to need this distance now. Out quickly after a respectable effort at the weekend, always a good sign with Bailey.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 01:37:14 PM
On my holidays so lets do a gamble! 

But agree with the lads that Chester looks tough, but I am going to get involved with a few lucjy 15's and fire a few small singles in the C4 races. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 08, 2014, 01:45:59 PM
Very very hard to see the old boy GENERAL TUFTO out the 3 in the first at Southwell imo

Was a bit interested in Shamiana at 14's this morning but not now at half those odds.

If one of the proper firms goes 11/2 ill be having a small eway interest in the old boy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 02:08:14 PM
Placepot down in first race.  Geegee!

Done everything to talk myself of Tres Coronas.  Meh.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 08, 2014, 02:11:44 PM
No good. Like you Kmac, talked myself out of the obvious.

Watching brief for rest of the day and hope that Brooky can fluke a win later in the Vase.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 02:12:24 PM
Looks like a bit of a move for Roger Thorpe, you think this is just e/w money Horsey as the fav still seems pretty solid.  


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 08, 2014, 02:18:06 PM
Loves chasing one home that one...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 08, 2014, 02:23:41 PM
Yep won plenty over the years but now seems happiest just following one home

no damage done looks like a small touch landed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 08, 2014, 02:29:30 PM
Yep won plenty over the years but now seems happiest just following one home

no damage done looks like a small touch landed

I remember backing him last year around xmas, and he almost paid for it!

Won next time out, but it was more a paying for dinner price :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 08, 2014, 02:30:57 PM
In that grade would not be any horse i would be more confident having a big bet on hitting the three

Old stick


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 02:36:17 PM
Weary of backing Ektihaam had my fingers  badly burnt when he slipped in the Hardwicke.  I really thought he looked a top prospect last year.  But he then rand badly in the King George. Might be a bit soft in the head. 

I think I like Noble Mission best, but put off slightly by the draw.  I know yesterday the low draw never played as big a part as we all expected. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 02:38:53 PM
LIKE! 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 08, 2014, 03:48:54 PM
Kinda gutted on the placepot so far had it not been for the first race let-down I'd have 6 live lines with 2 races to go. 

Smallish winner with the lucky 15,  2 winners and a place.  Couple of random punts at Newton Abbot and Southwell and I'm winning very small. 

I need to sort out my staking plan though. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 08, 2014, 03:50:51 PM
See Joseph sings off the same hymn sheet as father when interviewed 'Listen, he's a nice horse, listen'


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 08, 2014, 03:57:47 PM
Unlucky mate, but profit is profit :)

I didn't do much today, but still knocked in a few quid.

I backed Strictly Silver last night at 20s, so was happy to see money for it, and then happier when Adz says he is on too!

Did a trixie last night with Telescope-Orchestra and the nutjob that pinged Hanagan just now.

If I had waited until this morning, I would have swapped Telescope with NM due to the weather.

Another day tomorrow, so hopefully the pin can sharpen up this evening...

What's a staking plan?

;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 09, 2014, 09:21:48 AM
3 small bets for me today.

3.05 Lingfield

This is not my usual sort of race i would bet in but when a horse i have had notebooked for a while is 11/1-12/1 i have to get involved.

Horse is DJINNI pretty sure she will need a mile to be seen to best potential and this race is full of more unexposed animals who could just be better. She has been dropped 5lbs after flopping last time but im sure she could progress to a pattern filly in time. Obviously a lot of these could be better than handicappers and with the distance doubts just a small bet.


Like two in the 3.50 at Chester one obvious one, one not so much.

VERSE OF LOVE usually runs a good race, has a plum draw great running style for Chester and has ran well despite being hassled for the lead on both starts this season. A less obvious one is LORD OF THE DANCE was some mean feat to win six times last season and by the end of the season had not surprisingly had enough racing/ risen to high in the weights.

This is a nice drop in grade and back to turf and is now down to a mark it could win from again, conditions no problem. At 33's ill take a chance he can surprise again like he did so often last season.

So three small win only bets for me today, good luck all.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 09, 2014, 03:58:23 PM
Channel 4 Racing at Chester - at least you get The Specials to play out as the credits roll...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGDQ85Dg-ss


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 09, 2014, 04:10:23 PM
N1 Horsey!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 09, 2014, 04:11:44 PM
cheers adz

John Egan rolling back the years there, love the way he stops his training career every year to ride a few for Evans at Chester

Gutsy win


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 09, 2014, 04:13:39 PM
Well done Horsey, shame the first one never ran its race.  I had 3 singles and 3 e/w doubles.  Small profit on the selections but could have been so much nicer. 

I have been killed today. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 09, 2014, 04:18:17 PM
Of course you can also get a nice priced winner if you prefer, Horsey on fire. Many thanks.  Next up Scoop 6 !!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 09, 2014, 04:20:56 PM
Had some unwanted guests for the last 90 minutes or so, and have missed what Dale Gibson has been saying but caught the latter end of it there.  He should be given such a more prominent role imo.  I aways enjoy listening to what he has to say. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on May 09, 2014, 04:22:39 PM
this isn't meant to be aftertimey, but i am just a racing ice-cream...not really got the confidence to mix it with the racing lads on here but i do read the thread, but had this up today with satan j

                Chester 14:15    Outright Betting, Kingfisher, 7/2
   Won    
      Chester 13:45    Outright Betting, Here Comes When, 7/2
   Won    
      Chester 14:45    Outright Betting, Brown Panther, 6/4
   Won    
      Chester 15:15    Outright Betting, Blithe Spirit, 3/1
   Won    
     Lucky15 £1.66, 15 bets, £24.90         £964.81


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 09, 2014, 04:24:27 PM
Of course you can also get a nice priced winner if you prefer, Horsey on fire. Many thanks.  Next up Scoop 6 !!

ty sir


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on May 09, 2014, 04:34:41 PM
Oi Oi


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 09, 2014, 04:34:59 PM
Well done Tighty I had 3 of them split over two lines :-(

I know ATR is behind when showing "live" but I was shocked to see there it was behind the 365 online coverage.  

In running punters must get shafted a helluva lot unless they have some access to pictures via another medium.  


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on May 09, 2014, 04:36:17 PM
vwp Horsey, I missed both obv, will be on the next one so don't bet big. I am cursed, millibok. :(

Wal Tighty. Share and share alike.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 09, 2014, 04:40:40 PM
this isn't meant to be aftertimey, but i am just a racing ice-cream...not really got the confidence to mix it with the racing lads on here but i do read the thread, but had this up today with satan j

                Chester 14:15    Outright Betting, Kingfisher, 7/2
   Won    
      Chester 13:45    Outright Betting, Here Comes When, 7/2
   Won    
      Chester 14:45    Outright Betting, Brown Panther, 6/4
   Won    
      Chester 15:15    Outright Betting, Blithe Spirit, 3/1
   Won    
     Lucky15 £1.66, 15 bets, £24.90         £964.81


(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/49621509.jpg)


Well done mate, great touch!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 09, 2014, 05:44:29 PM
Horsey, on fire this week!

Well done, great stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 09, 2014, 06:02:00 PM
ty tikay

an early one for tommorow night

Its a tough handicap but there is no way in the world RIO COBOLO should be 20/1 for Thirsk 7.40 tommorow night

Been with kirby for two runs one good one and one what looks bad last time over 6 at catterick but got stuck early in race.

Mile fine, mark fine, trainer excellent



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 09, 2014, 10:36:56 PM
ty tikay

an early one for tommorow night

Its a tough handicap but there is no way in the world RIO COBOLO should be 20/1 for Thirsk 7.40 tommorow night

Been with kirby for two runs one good one and one what looks bad last time over 6 at catterick but got stuck early in race.

Mile fine, mark fine, trainer excellent



BMU go 22/1 Rio Cobolo at present.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 09, 2014, 10:44:03 PM
Yes

I may have got this badly wrong but have gone in again at 20's

Only bet tommorow so we will see

Has book turned up yet Tikay btw?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 09, 2014, 10:47:48 PM
Yes

I may have got this badly wrong but have gone in again at 20's

Only bet tommorow so we will see

Has book turned up yet Tikay btw?

Have had a small interest @ 22/1 John.

The book was not there today, am in the office tomorrow morning, will maybe be there then.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 10, 2014, 12:49:54 PM
Someone put this up a while back I think, but anyway, I think today is the day.

Born To Surprise 5.10 Ling. Can get 4s on Sky, but not for long I expect.

I'm sure Fred will be rolling in it by then and celebrating wildly, so get on now! 8)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 10, 2014, 12:57:17 PM
4/1 long gone. 7/2 best price elsewhere now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 10, 2014, 01:00:31 PM
4/1 long gone. 7/2 best price elsewhere now.

Still some 4/1 at the after dinner mints...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 10, 2014, 01:13:49 PM
Yep that was me

Convinced this has a win in it for Carter but 4's is not getting my juices going to much

Hope it wins though

Rio Cobolo is now 40's lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 10, 2014, 01:41:10 PM
Yep that was me

Convinced this has a win in it for Carter but 4's is not getting my juices going to much

Hope it wins though

Rio Cobolo is now 40's lol

Should we go in again?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 10, 2014, 01:44:28 PM
As always upto you

Technically i should but when i make something single figures and its 40's i have probably missed something quite obvious

Had enough on for me at 20's last night anyway

shrewd


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 10, 2014, 04:37:48 PM
Right, where is that 40/1 shot?



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 10, 2014, 04:39:58 PM
Right, where is that 40/1 shot?



7:40 Thirsk


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 10, 2014, 04:57:48 PM
I haven't bet much today, been a tough one across many of the cards.  One I looked at last night when going over the form though was Prince Regal in the last at Ascot.  I felt that its coming from a stable that is right in form at the moment, it has imo thebest 3lb claimer about on board my concern earlier was the draw I felt he was pretty much in the middle and might not know were to go if they split.  But with a few non runners  he is now likely to get a better position.   There has also been bits and bobs around in the market for it.  I like is as a bet to nothing e/w there is some 11/1 available with beteveryday. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 10, 2014, 05:10:00 PM
Cheers mate.

One more for a trixie :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 10, 2014, 05:13:02 PM
Cheers mate.

One more for a trixie :)


Great Expectations 5:10 Lingfield? 

C/D form, good jockey, stable coming to hand, won the same race last year.  Spent no time on that mind you just looking at whats in front of me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 10, 2014, 05:17:49 PM
Cheers mate.

One more for a trixie :)


Great Expectations 5:10 Lingfield? 

C/D form, good jockey, stable coming to hand, won the same race last year.  Spent no time on that mind you just looking at whats in front of me.

Ahhhh, I've backed Born to Surprise in that, so will just do a single.

Good luck us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 10, 2014, 05:22:13 PM
Meh, used up far too much early doors. 

I think I might just start blacking Hughes blind.   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on May 10, 2014, 05:32:31 PM
RFC - Cheers Marky :-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rubbish2407 on May 10, 2014, 05:41:52 PM
Nice one Horsey.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 10, 2014, 05:43:40 PM
Someone put this up a while back I think, but anyway, I think today is the day.

Born To Surprise 5.10 Ling. Can get 4s on Sky, but not for long I expect.

I'm sure Fred will be rolling in it by then and celebrating wildly, so get on now! 8)

Beeeeeeeeeaaaaaaast!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Micko on May 10, 2014, 05:49:14 PM
Great work Adz :respect:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rubbish2407 on May 10, 2014, 06:00:44 PM
Nice one Horsey.

Sorry, nice one Adzy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on May 10, 2014, 09:07:33 PM
Someone put this up a while back I think, but anyway, I think today is the day.

Born To Surprise 5.10 Ling. Can get 4s on Sky, but not for long I expect.

I'm sure Fred will be rolling in it by then and celebrating wildly, so get on now! 8)

Beeeeeeeeeaaaaaaast!

Back from the kids birthday party to find I'm quite a few quid richer !!

Cheers Horsey and Adz  :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 10, 2014, 09:32:28 PM
Lol

Wp Horsey. N1......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 10, 2014, 09:53:32 PM


(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/20349/wenger-o.gif)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 11, 2014, 12:00:11 PM
Strictly a for those that can bet.

Muwarry is 14s with Racebets for the French 2000G at 2.45. Its around 8s everywhere else, which is about right.

Its inexperienced but looks a horse of real potential. At 14s its worth a bit ew.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 11, 2014, 12:46:01 PM
annoying i left that alone yesterday

never mind well done those who backed it!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 11, 2014, 12:58:31 PM
annoying i left that alone yesterday

never mind well done those who backed it!


Just a question of keeping your eye out for the right race mate. Wouldn't have kept an eye on it if you hadn't pointed it out a few races back.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 11, 2014, 01:00:18 PM
Aye believe me i have been watching its entries like a hawk since the silver lincoln for some reason probably time didnt bother this week

never mind


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 11, 2014, 08:00:05 PM
The 3.40 at Musselburgh is an interesting contest tommorow.

Reason for looking at this race is you have nearly 50% of the early market taken up with Fly Solo and Merchant of Medici.

Fly Solo has a maiden win from 14 career runs. He has been beaten at short prices fairly regularly, can win and Swinbank is obviously in really good form so may start even shorter.

Merchant of Medici is similar but has an even longer losing run to overcome not winning since 2011.

Both can win but would not be the most likely winners of any race.

Latin Rebel is next in and is a maiden for Jim Goldie, Love Marmalade has been backed already early after a fair re appearance for A Whillians after joining from Johnston.

I dont like backing horses that have left MJ to return to form and a mark of 75 is no gimme anyway.

I like three in here (ouch) to differing degrees.

The main bet for me is MUSIKHANI at 14's for Phil Kirby. Still lightly raced ran two fair races for Andrew Balding last season to a mark of around 70. On debut for Kirby ten days ago ran very very free and had no chance after that. Hopefully they have learnt from that and the horse is now ready to run her race.

She may just not be very good but at least she has some potential progression in here unlike so many of these.

PHASE SHIFT has done ok for Ellison over hurdles at a lowish level slowly progressing to a low 120's mark. Not taken at all to novice chasing last two starts so returns to the flat on a mark of 57.

Not thrown in but the form of her Catterick claimer win just over a year ago would get her involved here and she has improved slightly since that win over hurdles.

The final bet is someone i rarely back and thats Mark Johnston. CHAPERELLA is a maiden who came from France and was beaten 22 lengths on debut for MJ ten days.

Hugh Taylor recently commented that MJ's handicappers beaten 20 lengths or more are worth following as mad as that sounds.

It would never be a positive but a horse being hammered in his stable and then winning next time out is much more common than any other trainer. Unexposed could be hopeless but im chancing here at 16's.

Smallish bet on Musikhani at 14's

Two even smaller bets on Phase Shift and Chaparella.





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 12, 2014, 12:41:28 PM
First race at Donny Today.

1
(4)
385-44    Lightning Shower (USA)
3    11-7 p1    M Botti    Mr Mario Baratti    100/30
2
(3)
7-13    Deep Resolve (IRE)
3    11-6    G A Swinbank    Mr S Walker    6/4
3
(5)
904-8    Come On Sunshine
3    11-5 h    B Ellison    Mr F Mitchell    7/1
4
(6)
358-83    Newgate Queen
3    10-11    T Coyle    Mr K Wood (7)    6/1
5
(1)
9-11305    Enquiring
3    10-11    M Johnston    Mr Alex Ferguson (5)    8/1
6

(2)
73753-5    Blue Talisman (IRE)
3    10-9 b    T D Easterby    Mr W Easterby (5)    8/1
7
(7)
970-    That Be Grand
3    10-7    S A Harris    Mr Graham Carson (5)    33/1



Think the bloke needs more than a 5lb claim


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 12, 2014, 05:01:32 PM
Do well to get a race more wrong apart from opposing the two non winners never mind.

Jumps one from the notebook tomorrow

Sedgefield 2.50 One For Hocky

Had a very small bet at 7/2 early but if any bigger appears will have some more later.

Takes the now usual route of trying in nh flat events and even winning one before three runs in novice events were not put into the race. A mark of 84 almost certainly underplays his ability and with the first time hood they have the excuse lined up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 15, 2014, 08:42:26 AM
Today could see a parting of the ways between a mismatched couple.

My relationship with Elusivity has been a one street, and akin to me falling in love with a what looked like a beautiful woman who continually lets me down, but I keep asking her back and paying for holidays, cars and expensive meals, but getting nothing back in return.

And so it is since I started following Elusivity a few seasons ago. He looked like he was about to become to become a great sprinter, putting up performance after performance of immense promise, but always, not quite getting there, being badly draw, or the ever popular excuse "unlucky in running". He has been through 3 trainers during our time together and I have started to pass him over the last couple of runs and I felt the spell had finally been broken.

Then last night I see he has been drawn down what appeared to be the golden strip on the near side of the middle of the course at York. Bugger. Peter Crate had always said that he would take 4/5 runs before he had a target for him. Gulp. Then I notice his only run at York over 5f was one of his best. Oh shit. He also has my fav hold up jockety of the moment on board in Shane Kelly.

Last chance matey. Plenty of 12s available and even some 14s on Betdaq, but I expect that is peanuts. Will probably be the end of an era, but the stars may finally have aligned the either kill or cure me of this obsession. GL, or just wish me luck, I understand I could well be going in alone!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 15, 2014, 08:47:48 AM
Today could see a parting of the ways between a mismatched couple.

My relationship with Elusivity has been a one street, and akin to me falling in love with a what looked like a beautiful woman who continually lets me down, but I keep asking her back and paying for holidays, cars and expensive meals, but getting nothing back in return.

And so it is since I started following Elusivity a few seasons ago. He looked like he was about to become to become a great sprinter, putting up performance after performance of immense promise, but always, not quite getting there, being badly draw, or the ever popular excuse "unlucky in running". He has been through 3 trainers during our time together and I have started to pass him over the last couple of runs and I felt the spell had finally been broken.

Then last night I see he has been drawn down what appeared to be the golden strip on the near side of the middle of the course at York. Bugger. Peter Crate had always said that he would take 4/5 runs before he had a target for him. Gulp. Then I notice his only run at York over 5f was one of his best. Oh shit. He also has my fav hold up jockety of the moment on board in Shane Kelly.

Last chance matey. Plenty of 12s available and even some 14s on Betdaq, but I expect that is peanuts. Will probably be the end of an era, but the stars may finally have aligned the either kill or cure me of this obsession. GL, or just wish me luck, I understand I could well be going in alone!

We will hold hands & lose our money together, I've invested a tiddlerarse £10 EW.

Note that £3.65 are quoting 16/1, though I could not get on, as they only offered me £1 EW.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on May 15, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
I'm worse than the Benfica curse so  apologies in advance.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 15, 2014, 08:58:27 AM
Cheers Tikay......I think......gone in again..... ;dingdell;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 15, 2014, 09:01:19 AM
Cheers Tikay......I think......gone in again..... ;dingdell;

Super-Bok is on board.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 15, 2014, 09:02:08 AM
If it cures me, so be it Tikay!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 15, 2014, 09:38:42 AM


Did anyone see the interview from York Races yesterday with the breeder of Madame Chiang?

If that sort of thing interests you, unlikely, I know, but I've penned some stuff about that most remarkable woman, here....


http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=25486.msg1940576#msg1940576


(http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o541/tikay2/tikay2182/KRA1_zpsddae12d5.jpg) (http://s1147.photobucket.com/user/tikay2/media/tikay2182/KRA1_zpsddae12d5.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 15, 2014, 10:51:38 AM
My e/w bet today:

4.45 Salisbury   Bennelong   14/1 BetVictor


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 15, 2014, 11:09:33 AM
Cheers Tikay......I think......gone in again..... ;dingdell;

5 places ...... 14-1........ I'm in.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: scotty2hatty on May 15, 2014, 01:43:51 PM
Time does Elusivity run? I'm being lazy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 15, 2014, 01:44:44 PM
Time does Elusivity run? I'm being lazy.

1.45, Scott.

Fingers crossed.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 15, 2014, 01:51:02 PM
If mine doesnt win hope yours does lads

Backed Secret Witness very small at 20'sish often ran well quick returning from a poor run loves this race wish Harris was in better nick but cant have it all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on May 15, 2014, 02:08:47 PM

Good call Adz

VUL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on May 15, 2014, 02:09:03 PM

unlucky adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 15, 2014, 02:09:05 PM


Oooohhhhh.

So nearly.

Nice EW profit though, nice one Adzy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 15, 2014, 02:09:21 PM

Good call Adz

VUL

+1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 15, 2014, 02:11:36 PM
ul adz ran well

Mine got stopped half a furlong out never ideal in a sprint and rattled home for 5th


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 15, 2014, 02:19:46 PM
Thought for a second....but also know his burst doesn't last that long......very much like me!

Oh well more profits for the P&L.

Onwards.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 15, 2014, 02:31:52 PM
Thought for a second....but also know his burst doesn't last that long......very much like me!

Oh well more profits for the P&L.

Onwards.

Carry on trolling the racing thread Adam, your making us money. Nearly normal service resumed.  :respect:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 15, 2014, 03:16:18 PM
Burn Grey Gatsby........


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 17, 2014, 02:34:04 PM
Scoop six nobbled, so let's go plan B:

Indignant, Win, 2.40 Newbury  
Gamesome, Win, 2.55 Newmarket  
Oldjoesaid, Win, 3.25 Thirsk  
Deeds Not Words, Win, 3.30 Newmarket: Sprint Trophy  
Save The Bees, Win, 4.00 Thirsk

Doubles and up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on May 17, 2014, 02:49:16 PM
Scoop six nobbled, so let's go plan B:

Indignant, Win, 2.40 Newbury  
Gamesome, Win, 2.55 Newmarket  
Oldjoesaid, Win, 3.25 Thirsk  
Deeds Not Words, Win, 3.30 Newmarket: Sprint Trophy  
Save The Bees, Win, 4.00 Thirsk

Doubles and up.

sorry no good im on indignant in the next.
UL Tal


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 17, 2014, 02:51:45 PM
Scoop six nobbled, so let's go plan B:

Indignant, Win, 2.40 Newbury  
Gamesome, Win, 2.55 Newmarket  
Oldjoesaid, Win, 3.25 Thirsk  
Deeds Not Words, Win, 3.30 Newmarket: Sprint Trophy  
Save The Bees, Win, 4.00 Thirsk

Doubles and up.

sorry no good im on indignant in the next.
UL Tal

No stranger to a bok myself. If this doesn't go to plan, I'm going to have to try earning money. Let's hope it doesn't have to come to that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 17, 2014, 03:26:13 PM
Scoop six nobbled, so let's go plan B:

Indignant, Win, 2.40 Newbury  
Gamesome, Win, 2.55 Newmarket  
Oldjoesaid, Win, 3.25 Thirsk  
Deeds Not Words, Win, 3.30 Newmarket: Sprint Trophy  
Save The Bees, Win, 4.00 Thirsk

Doubles and up.

There's an old expression in chess that finding the worst move on the board is just as difficult as finding the best.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 20, 2014, 09:16:59 AM
General Tufto 2nd again yesterday at Southwell the old stick

Red Invader is out again today after the big Brighton letdown, down in trip at Warwick and Spencer booked the current price of 6-1 has tempted me in for a very small bet.

In the same race Glastonberry has not really run much on turf since improving on the all weather. Being 20 odd lbs lower on the turf looks risky if ready for this. 16's is worth the risk

Two small win bets.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 20, 2014, 11:45:22 AM
Was really impressed by Verrazano in the Lockinge on Saturday. The size of him next to Olympic Glory as they gave the side on view as they left the stalls was staggering.

With a furlong to go he appeared to find his stride but O'Brien made little effort to really get after him, and i think the question mark over his ability to act on grass had been answered. Rarely does AP O'Brien have his ready for the Lockinge and tends to use this as a warm up for R Ascot, and this looked a perfect tune up for the Queen Anne on the opening Day on June 17th. He may not improve sufficently to beat OG, but I think he can, and he may not even have to!

With Hannon having both Olympic Glory and Toranado as first two favs in the same ownership, I cant see both running. That leaves Verrazano currently as third fav at 7-1.

Admittedly O'Brien has alternatives too, but with Verrazanos Group 1 pedigree proven many times over I suspect he will be the number one choice for this.

With several firms as low as 4 and 5-1 I think a hefty ew bet now is called for at 7-1 with Betty Sportsbook or UnSportingwontlayaBet. GL



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 20, 2014, 06:06:56 PM
1.15 ir for Red Invader

not for me ever again after that looked an awful ride

Glastonberry quietly well backed and showed a bit of turf promise


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 20, 2014, 09:24:28 PM
mmmm Warwick only lasted two races

Maybe i can account that to the very strange action and attitude



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 22, 2014, 01:14:15 PM
Rather keen on Exotic Guest in 2.20 Ayr.

Ran an "interesting" race behind Taurus Twins at Notts last time without being put under much pressure, and up against a fair few dodgepots in this race. TT franked the form yesterday, and I suspect this may be the horses day.

Looks a fair ew price at 7-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on May 22, 2014, 01:23:23 PM
had a little fun bet today including yours adz

2.20 exotic air 10/1   opt out 16/1 (beofre non runners)
3.25  henpecked 10/1  wolf heart 16/1
3.50 magic city

win doubles and a treble :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 22, 2014, 02:45:14 PM
that was rather poo.

Apols.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on May 25, 2014, 02:22:37 PM
Last minute decision to go to Uttox races with some mates this afternoon (we only live 15 mins away) any selections for races 3-7 would be greatly appreciated.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 28, 2014, 12:33:31 PM
There's another horse I'm interested in tomorrow.

Lady Yeates in the last.

Zoomed to the top of my horses to follow list with a wildly impressive win at Redcar, when she was so unfit she had a bigger belly than me.

Somewhat surprised Moore is running her at a speed track like Chester as she looks like she will improve the further she goes.

Going to throw away tuppence happenny on her at 8/1, but she is definitely one to watch tomorrow and in coming weeks. I think she could improve a stone on her current mark.
Lady Yeats runs tonight in 6.30 Beverley 4-1 at present


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kpnuts on May 28, 2014, 12:56:08 PM
Beverly abandoned


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Cant help thinking that old rogue Shoreacres is massively overpriced in the 20.25 @ Stratford later.

Up in trip, but a horse who has always promised much. Even last race took the lead and faltered when looking all over the winner. One point that got missed though was a juddering mistake halfway through that would have taken loads out of him.

Rated 4th best on official ratings, 40-1 ew just has to be a bet with Victor, or Sid


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: craigbetts on May 30, 2014, 08:58:14 PM
Cant help thinking that old rogue Shoreacres is massively overpriced in the 20.25 @ Stratford later.

Up in trip, but a horse who has always promised much. Even last race took the lead and faltered when looking all over the winner. One point that got missed though was a juddering mistake halfway through that would have taken loads out of him.

Rated 4th best on official ratings, 40-1 ew just has to be a bet with Victor, or Sid

Great shout Adzy!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 30, 2014, 09:01:23 PM
Cant help thinking that old rogue Shoreacres is massively overpriced in the 20.25 @ Stratford later.

Up in trip, but a horse who has always promised much. Even last race took the lead and faltered when looking all over the winner. One point that got missed though was a juddering mistake halfway through that would have taken loads out of him.

Rated 4th best on official ratings, 40-1 ew just has to be a bet with Victor, or Sid

Great shout Adzy!

Haha, can't keep a good man down! Thank you sir.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 30, 2014, 09:11:37 PM
Second?!
 
Useless


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 30, 2014, 09:20:01 PM
Glad a few got on. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 30, 2014, 09:36:12 PM
Sick slowroll...


Nice one mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 30, 2014, 10:03:11 PM
nice one


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 31, 2014, 11:14:15 AM
wp wp thanks Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kinboshi on May 31, 2014, 11:19:57 AM
Anyone got any tips for Newmarket today? The missus is there with a group of friends, and wanted some advice on how best to donk her money off :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on May 31, 2014, 11:24:20 AM
Cant help thinking that old rogue Shoreacres is massively overpriced in the 20.25 @ Stratford later.

Up in trip, but a horse who has always promised much. Even last race took the lead and faltered when looking all over the winner. One point that got missed though was a juddering mistake halfway through that would have taken loads out of him.

Rated 4th best on official ratings, 40-1 ew just has to be a bet with Victor, or Sid

great call Adam


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2014, 06:46:34 PM
small ew on Be Royale 8.40 New

Keep you going til the boxing. 12s avail with Victor!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 31, 2014, 07:58:46 PM
Go on then. I'll join you with a forecast on the one I fancy: Royal Connection


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 31, 2014, 08:05:48 PM
Go on then. I'll join you with a forecast on the one I fancy: Royal Connection

oh bugger


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 31, 2014, 08:08:52 PM
Go on then. I'll join you with a forecast on the one I fancy: Royal Connection

oh bugger

What? You didn't see Hughes had a ride? Mate, you really need to study the card better


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 01, 2014, 01:28:47 PM
Ran ok. Looked like getting place money everywhere bar the line. Sadly the dreaded fourth.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 01, 2014, 01:37:37 PM
Done a wee bit of work on French Derby and had two small ew bets

Shamikyr @9-1

Mr Pommeroy @50-1

I see PP are paying first 4, if you can get more than £1.26 on either....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 01, 2014, 03:44:57 PM
Another frustrating second. The 50-1 shot ran a blinder too.

Too many goalposts!

Nice that won by a Brit and makes all those who said True Story ran a shocker in the Dante look a bit silly!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 03, 2014, 11:50:44 AM
At Great Yarmouth on a holiday, going to the races tonight.

Amy tips/fancies lads?

Adz? Horsey?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 03, 2014, 12:14:42 PM
I'm hoping for big things from Adaay in the first but the 5/2 available yesterday long gone.

Rest look horribly hard races, and the only two I could even possibly suggest an interest in are hopefully two Fahey improvers in the last two races McCarthy Mor and Khalahari kingdom. But both for small beer mate.

GL and have fun.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 03, 2014, 12:17:28 PM
Cant find anything

All i will say is that Yarmouth has topped the tracks for the last 5 years for biggest average winning sp so dont be afraid to back a few outsiders.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 03, 2014, 01:39:38 PM
Thanks lads, just by the beach now only bit of signal I'm getting, bloody 02!

I'll back the ones you've mentioned Adz.

Ps I fuckin love an outsider!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: redarmi on June 03, 2014, 02:01:41 PM
There is an interesting angle that I would love to claim as my own but I got from the excellent Andrew Mount at www.gg.com.  Basically because it is a coastal venue when there is a headwind horses that race prominently especially on the straight course (5f-1m) and tonight there is likely to be a 20mph headwind so looking at horses that come from behind is probably a decent approach.  He suggests Tight Lipped in the 655 but you can probably figure others out with a fairly quick look at the Post.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on June 03, 2014, 02:54:45 PM
I'm hoping for big things from Adaay in the first but the 5/2 available yesterday long gone.

Rest look horribly hard races, and the only two I could even possibly suggest an interest in are hopefully two Fahey improvers in the last two races McCarthy Mor and Khalahari kingdom. But both for small beer mate.

GL and have fun.

Good spot, you got the best of it at 5/2 , looks a decent lil race though and I gotta keep an eye on fallons horse looks a strange race to start a career in .....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 03, 2014, 04:03:34 PM
Red, how would I work out which horses like to come from behind?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: redarmi on June 03, 2014, 05:33:22 PM
Look in the comments for their previous runs for comments like held up.  More importantly avoid horses with comments like led, raced prominently etc.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 03, 2014, 07:37:23 PM
I'm hoping for big things from Adaay in the first but the 5/2 available yesterday long gone.

Rest look horribly hard races, and the only two I could even possibly suggest an interest in are hopefully two Fahey improvers in the last two races McCarthy Mor and Khalahari kingdom. But both for small beer mate.

GL and have fun.

10/1 will make hopefully make up for missing the 5/2

Cheesr mate ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 03, 2014, 08:20:09 PM
Had to leave after the 6.55 little one was whinging a lot. The joys of a family holiday!

Had one winner fallons horse in the second.

Gonna be fuming if I miss an Adz winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 03, 2014, 08:25:24 PM
Looks like you did well to leave early.

Neither were even vaguely moderate fancies so dont go finding a bookie!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 03, 2014, 08:31:05 PM
Looks like you did well to leave early.

Neither were even vaguely moderate fancies so dont go finding a bookie!

Ha cheers mate.

Adaawy won really easily, didn't fancy backing a 5/6 shot. Great bet @ 5/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 04, 2014, 01:24:44 PM
Gonna hide this one away in here, as it's utter madness.

Having been upside down and inside out with the form/videos etc I think Island Remede is worth a little ew in The Oaks. Too hungry too set out all my thoughts, but..

If we get testing conditions she is one of few I think will really stay the trip. She may have plenty to find, but at 125-1 and probably a lot more on Betty, come the day, I had to let you wonderful people out there that bother to read this trash.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on June 04, 2014, 01:26:37 PM
Gonna hide this one away in here, as it's utter madness.

Having been upside down and inside out with the form/videos etc I think Island Remede is worth a little ew in The Oaks. Too hungry too set out all my thoughts, but..

If we get testing conditions she is one of few I think will really stay the trip. She may have plenty to find, but at 125-1 and probably a lot more on Betty, come the day, I had to let you wonderful people out there that bother to read this trash.

not so hidden away.....

cough, go on, you know you want to


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on June 04, 2014, 01:32:45 PM
Did I hear the words "Rank" and "Outsider"?

(https://p.gr-assets.com/540x540/fit/hostedimages/1383500714/6579742.gif)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 05, 2014, 05:42:51 PM
The Tufto

second again!

seven times in a row


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 07, 2014, 11:47:29 AM
Little ew yankee for Epsom today

Ballesteros  3.15   25s

Lewisham 5.25   9s

Talent 2.40    8s

Blue Surf 4.50   14s


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on June 07, 2014, 12:01:04 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m67WohR8wb4/T2OZtzf7D0I/AAAAAAAAGww/6LjRCBrEw60/s320/new-york-yankees-logo.jpg) FTW


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 07, 2014, 12:07:47 PM
I quite fancy Talent to run well today too, especially if there's a little more rain.

On @ 8/1 EW.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 07, 2014, 12:08:27 PM
Little ew yankee for Epsom today

Ballesteros  3.15   25s

Lewisham 5.25   9s

Talent 2.40    8s

Blue Surf 4.50   14s

I'm at Epsom today mate but il prob just follow you in on singles!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on June 07, 2014, 12:10:35 PM
Little ew yankee for Epsom today

Ballesteros  3.15   25s

Lewisham 5.25   9s

Talent 2.40    8s

Blue Surf 4.50   14s

I'm at Epsom today mate but il prob just follow you in on singles!

are you in Epsom now mate, is it still raining?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 07, 2014, 12:18:30 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-m67WohR8wb4/T2OZtzf7D0I/AAAAAAAAGww/6LjRCBrEw60/s320/new-york-yankees-logo.jpg) FTW


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 07, 2014, 12:20:39 PM
Little ew yankee for Epsom today

Ballesteros  3.15   25s

Lewisham 5.25   9s

Talent 2.40    8s

Blue Surf 4.50   14s

I'm at Epsom today mate but il prob just follow you in on singles!

are you in Epsom now mate, is it still raining?

No rain right now, grey skies with patches of blue.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 07, 2014, 12:57:21 PM
Any views on the first race guys? Quick look at the card with my novice skills and I like black shadow?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 07, 2014, 01:13:12 PM
Sentimental small bet on mates horse. Stars over the Sea

Ran well at Epsom two races ago and last time beaten at Chester by Orchestra and Romsdal who are in Derby. Lead to 2 out and apparently irons twised so jock was sat awkward for half the race.

16s for a little save Ali!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 07, 2014, 02:00:03 PM
Bloody hell. I think there must be a rogue stalls handler pulling the tail of my horses at Epsom, they are all falling out of the stalls and losiig far more distance than they are getting beat.
 :'(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on June 07, 2014, 02:07:04 PM
Unlucky there mate, I was on the same one. If it pings the gates it wins in my limited horse racing knowledge


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 07, 2014, 02:12:03 PM
Bugger! There's now a NR in Talent's race leaving seven.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on June 07, 2014, 02:57:43 PM


Cheers Sparrow

Ground looks ok at Epsom, taken a couple small EW in The Derby that have close form lines with horses shorter in the betting and seem overpriced. Romsdal at 25/1 and Impulsive Moment at 100/1,  IM needs to improve about a stone to be competitive, but it ran to 97 last time out when rated 80 at the time and wont wont mind the ease in the ground and should stay. Romsdal looks like it will stay further and the horse that beat it a nose after getting the run of the race last time out Orchestra is a 16/1 chance. Western Hymn needs to improve a lot on the figs too and is 16/1 IM is 100/1 and was beaten under 2 lengths, its a big ask but think it out runs its price.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 07, 2014, 03:04:13 PM
Backed Baldings as well Bobby

Chompy mentioned it to me and fred when it won on debut

Like you say the price versus W Hymn makes no sense, either one is to short or ours is to big

Would have liked more rain but hey ho


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hollbeck on June 07, 2014, 03:27:36 PM
Thanks to ad and horseplayer for keeping thread going.  Think lady gib has great ew shout in the next. Gl all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on June 07, 2014, 03:29:08 PM
Backed Baldings as well Bobby

Chompy mentioned it to me and fred when it won on debut

Like you say the price versus W Hymn makes no sense, either one is to short or ours is to big

Would have liked more rain but hey ho

yes that's how I saw it with both of them mate, good luck us.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on June 13, 2014, 07:06:12 PM
Off to York races tomorrow, 13 lads on a day out then watch the England game after 12 hours drinking if I'm still awake.

Anyway, if you guys fancy anything tomorrow I'd appreciate a post on here.

Thanks!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 13, 2014, 08:11:44 PM
Looks an awful card for a saturday at York

Enjoy the day though


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on June 13, 2014, 09:12:49 PM
Looks an awful card for a saturday at York

Enjoy the day though

Thanks, always a fun day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 21, 2014, 01:23:21 PM
My parents are off to lingfield tonight, if anyone has any fancies they could pass on then they would be gratefully received.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on June 21, 2014, 02:20:52 PM
Anyone got any longshot fancies today? I wanna get rich!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 21, 2014, 02:26:27 PM
Anyone got any longshot fancies today? I wanna get rich!

I'm giving Rivellino one last chance in the 500pm at Ascot, but be warned it has flattered to deceive before so it will need to hit the front right on the line, although I've always thought it had a big race win in it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 21, 2014, 02:29:49 PM
Like two at Ascot Milli

5.00

DONT BOTHER ME only 12th career start came from Ireland to Botti, had three runs for Botti two on soft ground, will prefer this ground and will be staying on well good draw on paper good mark and Botti now in superb form after a rare slow start to season.


5.35

ROMEO MONTAGUE risky this nearly won this race two years ago but jockey went very early. Been injured had a nice return a few weeks ago on soft ground (no good) Never back ed dunlop usually but he had a winner yesterday which means 33's here is just backable


More keen on the first than the second.

As for Lingfield if pushed THANE OF CAWDOR in the last never been as good on turf so easy to ignore last few turf runs. Hughes booked is probably significant for this small yard.

And if they arent regulars Sparrow take a picnic or get food from a nice cafe about 800 yards away on high street. Food is awful and queues on a saturday night meeting are usually 30mins +

enjoy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on June 21, 2014, 02:35:21 PM
Cheers guys, they'll do me nicely. Gives me something to sweat. Missus bday on Tuesday so it's either dining out on Steak or a drive thru McDonalds. No pressure!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on June 21, 2014, 02:58:28 PM
Thanks Horsey! solid advice :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on June 21, 2014, 05:36:27 PM
Bit of ew profit with Rivellino cheers Karab.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on June 25, 2014, 09:25:03 PM
Going to newcastle races on Friday, can someone give me winners please?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hollbeck on June 26, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
Off to chester tomorrow.  Any help finding winners appreciated . LiKe master paver in the second just a bit unsure about it on turf


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 26, 2014, 12:22:39 PM
Really like one at Chester tomorrow night just need to wait for prices to come out tonight

Will post on here when on


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hollbeck on June 26, 2014, 12:26:55 PM
Thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 26, 2014, 02:48:15 PM
You could do worse than 12-1 Asian Trader in the big sprint with Chictor Vandler.

He has an inexperienced 7lb claimer up but that wouldn't worry me over 5f here, especially on an experienced sprinter who travels well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hollbeck on June 26, 2014, 05:01:41 PM
Really like sweet lightning in the 8.30 but for some reason they've left the tongue strap off.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 26, 2014, 05:07:01 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/2014-06-27-chester/20:30/winner

Like DR RED EYE here

Positives :

Great draw
great course form
handicap mark more than winnable
been running better than results suggest
Dont think any/many of these can lead him up


Negatives :

Not to many has seemed more and more a short runner but this is a downgrade in race class
A few who change run styles or may see not much pace on and hassle for the lead. Even if they do im confident the doctor can lead here.

the early 9/1 is not as big as i hoped so im holding fire for double figures hopefully in a few hours



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on June 26, 2014, 05:31:41 PM
Going to newcastle races on Friday, can someone give me winners please?

bump!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hollbeck on June 26, 2014, 05:36:10 PM
Had this one lined up aswell but was thinking the stable mate would lead and they could get easy lead as 1&2.just dont want them to cut each others throats.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hollbeck on June 26, 2014, 05:39:01 PM
Really like sweet lightning in the 7:55 but for some reason they've left the tongue strap off.

corrected race time


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 26, 2014, 06:11:11 PM
Had this one lined up aswell but was thinking the stable mate would lead and they could get easy lead as 1&2.just dont want them to cut each others throats.

Very fair point

Piceno is a speedster as well but Dr Red Eye led a listed field round here until the final furlong on similar ground about a year ago. Obv not as good now but if he breaks well hard to see anything leading him early even Piceno

9/1 is ok had a small bet nothing more


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hollbeck on June 27, 2014, 09:48:04 AM
Missed the 10s so had a good bet each way@9.Cant see it being out of the 3.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on June 27, 2014, 12:19:12 PM
going Uttox races on Sunday any selections would be appreciated from the usual judges

ty in advance


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: millidonk on June 27, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
Dr Red Eye is a NR. :( Will have to find something else to make me rich.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 27, 2014, 10:02:03 PM
annoying they had a downpour


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 30, 2014, 05:55:58 PM
7.45 Ffos Las    Greyemkay - C&D winner, Oisin Murphy up top, fav short priced for it's achievements to date, decent e/w terms....

Whats not to like?

btw anyone want to let me know whats happened to Big Adz?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on June 30, 2014, 07:34:16 PM
7.45 Ffos Las    Greyemkay - C&D winner, Oisin Murphy up top, fav short priced for it's achievements to date, decent e/w terms....

Whats not to like?

btw anyone want to let me know whats happened to Big Adz?

Unfortunately for Blonde and the thread Adz has decided to move on. I for one am sad that he is no longer posting.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 30, 2014, 08:39:58 PM
Yes, a shame he's gone. Certainly missed on this thread, glad at least it was his decision and nothing untoward had happened to him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on June 30, 2014, 08:55:54 PM
he will be back next time he fancies a ruck over nothing!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 30, 2014, 09:08:44 PM
he will be back next time he fancies a ruck over nothing!


ROFL

Alanis Morissette wrote a tune for moments like this ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Ironside on June 30, 2014, 09:19:58 PM
he will be back next time he fancies a ruck over nothing!


ROFL

Alanis Morissette wrote a tune for moments like this ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6kLbDHu0yc

i am confused ;-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on June 30, 2014, 09:21:23 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOgpT5rEKIU

?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on June 30, 2014, 09:24:19 PM
I lost a few quid there. I was convinced the next video someone posted would be Ed Byrne.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on June 30, 2014, 09:24:55 PM
Also lol at

"Thank you disillusionment..."


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 30, 2014, 09:27:27 PM
Not quite, Tighty...


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Ironside on June 30, 2014, 09:28:18 PM
Not quite, Tighty...


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc




wow am i invisible?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 30, 2014, 09:30:53 PM
Oops... I missed yours because I couldn't see the video, sorry.

Seen it now, very good ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on June 30, 2014, 09:32:22 PM
Not quite, Tighty...


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc




i knew that :-)

and i get the sentiment!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on June 30, 2014, 09:32:44 PM
Not quite, Tighty...


YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jne9t8sHpUc




Too good Marky.  Argueboy shouldn't bite to experienced campaigners like you.  Haven't you got better stuff to be doing in the Nugget!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 30, 2014, 10:50:02 PM
Just rofling around while the footy is on ;D

Bought so many clothes last year, I didn't use half of them. This year I bring less, so obvously run out, and going to buy some new gear at the outlets after the game.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 03, 2014, 11:06:01 AM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/newbury/20:10/winner

Backed DJINNI twice this season already....

This is last chance for me today. Step up to a mile perfect, good to firm perfect Cam Hardie seven pounds off excellent showed a smidgen more last time.

Only a small bet as the front two in the market are unexposed types but 16/1  has tempted me in again.

Dr Red Eye runs again at Epsom but this looks much tougher to get a softish lead so i can let him win.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 20, 2014, 12:49:31 PM
Had a look at 4.10 Redcar as it's one of today's 4-1 + offer races on B365. Thought Headspace looked a very solid option (Love the form behind Line Of Reason  17/6/14) and at 6-1 best price (11/2 B365) worth backing ew.
Also backed Adiator @ 25-1 with SJ/BMU  (C&D form)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 20, 2014, 04:31:01 PM
Had a look at 4.10 Redcar as it's one of today's 4-1 + offer races on B365. Thought Headspace looked a very solid option (Love the form behind Line Of Reason  17/6/14) and at 6-1 best price (11/2 B365) worth backing ew.
Also backed Adiator @ 25-1 with SJ/BMU  (C&D form)


Won the race last year from same stall too. GL Simon


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 20, 2014, 04:36:30 PM
A Hugh Taylor Sunday special!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 20, 2014, 04:45:25 PM
Unlucky. Simon.

A Bigadz Sunday special!


;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 20, 2014, 04:53:51 PM
Unlucky. Simon.

A Bigadz Sunday special!


;)


shhhhh now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 22, 2014, 10:38:33 AM
My interest was piqued by Moonraker after he won on his only run to date and the the 2nd & 3rd went on to win next time out. The second Mubtaghaa then went on to finish 3rd in the Windsor Castle.
He is entered for the Keeneland Phoenix Stakes at the Curragh 10/08/2014 and the Nunthorpe. My question is: What chance does he have of getting a run in either of these as there are 50+ entries for both at present?
Only Coral have prices for the Nunthorpe at present and are offering 40-1.


http://www.racingpost.com/horses/owner_home.sd?owner_id=201205#topOwnerTabs=owner_entries&bottomOwnerTabs=owner_form


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on July 23, 2014, 06:34:11 AM
Pabusar Lingfield 4pm, gone from 40-1 to 4-1 overnight, Last win was in 2010,Last four races hasn't been lower than 33-1, last race it was 9/10 and lost by 11 lengths. That being said in 2010 it was rated 105 yet today it's rated 60, how do they know today is the day?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 23, 2014, 03:39:52 PM
Grrrrrrrrrr, paddock watchers. So tilting.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on July 23, 2014, 06:24:40 PM
I have this picture in my head of all these junkie horses shooting up morphine and nodding-off in their horse-boxes.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 25, 2014, 06:14:49 PM
Really like Goldream at York 3.30 tomorrow.

Won his initial race of the year quite nicely but Cowell said horse was well short of being razor sharp, and was being targeted at the big races later in the year.

Next time out at Newmt ran ok, but ground probably not quick enough, and the outside draw at Sandown was never going to help over 5f

Seems to have optimum conditions tomorrow, and whilst Sean Leavey wouldn't be my first choice, it doesn't put me off

14s if you can with pp(offered £1.18, cheers)

12 with Sky and 5 places( was 16s when prices first out)


Oh yes. Linfoot agrees, so felt happier putting it up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 25, 2014, 08:21:37 PM
Cheers, and good luck mate!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on July 25, 2014, 09:02:54 PM
Really like Goldream at York 3.30 tomorrow.

Won his initial race of the year quite nicely but Cowell said horse was well short of being razor sharp, and was being targeted at the big races later in the year.

Next time out at Newmt ran ok, but ground probably not quick enough, and the outside draw at Sandown was never going to help over 5f

Seems to have optimum conditions tomorrow, and whilst Sean Leavey wouldn't be my first choice, it doesn't put me off

14s if you can with pp(offered £1.18, cheers)

12 with Sky and 5 places( was 16s when prices first out)


Oh yes. Linfoot agrees, so felt happier putting it up

Thoughts on Line of Reason in that race?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 25, 2014, 09:14:29 PM
Really like Goldream at York 3.30 tomorrow.

Won his initial race of the year quite nicely but Cowell said horse was well short of being razor sharp, and was being targeted at the big races later in the year.

Next time out at Newmt ran ok, but ground probably not quick enough, and the outside draw at Sandown was never going to help over 5f

Seems to have optimum conditions tomorrow, and whilst Sean Leavey wouldn't be my first choice, it doesn't put me off

14s if you can with pp(offered £1.18, cheers)

12 with Sky and 5 places( was 16s when prices first out)


Oh yes. Linfoot agrees, so felt happier putting it up

Thoughts on Line of Reason in that race?


Big improver last few races, and I wouldn't be surprised if it went in again, but its up another 4lbs  after a big 17lb hike the race before.

That said, you get these horses each year that start off a low mark and end up 50lb higher at the end of the season. He could be this years!

I just think this is probably the strongest race of the lot he has contested recently though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on July 25, 2014, 10:10:14 PM
Really like Goldream at York 3.30 tomorrow.

Won his initial race of the year quite nicely but Cowell said horse was well short of being razor sharp, and was being targeted at the big races later in the year.

Next time out at Newmt ran ok, but ground probably not quick enough, and the outside draw at Sandown was never going to help over 5f

Seems to have optimum conditions tomorrow, and whilst Sean Leavey wouldn't be my first choice, it doesn't put me off

14s if you can with pp(offered £1.18, cheers)

12 with Sky and 5 places( was 16s when prices first out)


Oh yes. Linfoot agrees, so felt happier putting it up

Thoughts on Line of Reason in that race?


Big improver last few races, and I wouldn't be surprised if it went in again, but its up another 4lbs  after a big 17lb hike the race before.

That said, you get these horses each year that start off a low mark and end up 50lb higher at the end of the season. He could be this years!

I just think this is probably the strongest race of the lot he has contested recently though.

Ok. Thanks, squire.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 26, 2014, 10:09:50 AM
gd lk adz

One big race for me today, the ladies race :)

Born To Surprise mentioned on here before looks to have been primed for this, won again three starts back since been over wrong trip twice. Has Ascot form rider has won this two of last three seasons enough to like at 16's

Also backed Lord of The Dance, whizzed in this last year one of easiest winners of the season. Been out of form but mainly on soft ground and handicap mark to high after winning 5 handicaps last season. Risky but below last winning mark and ground and track are obviously fine.

In the impossible handicap giving Dont Bother Me another chance for Botti. Backed it last time ran on fine and is definitely back in form. Botti in much better nick now, drawn low not ideal but better than being stranded in the middle.

Gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 26, 2014, 10:33:52 AM
gd lk adz

One big race for me today, the ladies race :)

Born To Surprise mentioned on here before looks to have been primed for this, won again three starts back since been over wrong trip twice. Has Ascot form rider has won this two of last three seasons enough to like at 16's

Also backed Lord of The Dance, whizzed in this last year one of easiest winners of the season. Been out of form but mainly on soft ground and handicap mark to high after winning 5 handicaps last season. Risky but below last winning mark and ground and track are obviously fine.

In the impossible handicap giving Dont Bother Me another chance for Botti. Backed it last time ran on fine and is definitely back in form. Botti in much better nick now, drawn low not ideal but better than being stranded in the middle.

Gd lk all


Good luck u n all.


I love this Ladies races.

Used to be a happy race for Carol Williams, now hiding away as C Bartley on the Keraka Jack, who has also been running over the wrong trip last few races and is well handicapped for a now in form Dandy.

Also Haddaj flew home last time and has the queen of the ladies races Serena Brotherton on. Not won over 7f, but  most interestingly has some good back form with Bronze Angel over a mile.

A proper toughie, but I shall stick with the proven ladies. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 26, 2014, 11:15:10 AM
I have been hughed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 26, 2014, 03:42:33 PM
beaten by a m j horse with Brighton form

arghhhhh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on July 26, 2014, 03:46:27 PM
beaten by a m j horse with Brighton form

arghhhhh

I was gonna leave that one out as you didn't seem to hot on it, then I thought again! Unlucky and thanks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on July 26, 2014, 04:00:29 PM
Thanks Adz, had the forecast in that, helped by your fair hand, more money in the pocket, I'm glad your back posting, it's where all long term winners belong!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 26, 2014, 04:07:04 PM
We bumped into one there mate... Great shout, and unlucky not to get weighed in fully!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 26, 2014, 04:27:39 PM
Yup. Looked to be a decent Group horse in the making that winner. Clear second best though and so still made a bit. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 26, 2014, 04:54:41 PM
ffs, another 10 yards in that and another 50 in the impossible handicap and i get the win double up

oh well



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 26, 2014, 04:55:51 PM
Ul horsey.

4 bullets between us thought might have the winner out of that lot!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 26, 2014, 05:49:14 PM
Going for a decent bet tomorrow.

You may recall we just missed out on a decent ew bet on Barnet Fair last time out

I mentioned it maybe a tee up for a race at Ascot later in the month that he has won for the last two years. Well tomorrow is the day.

Currently best priced at 9-1 with Billy. Do able ew at that price.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 27, 2014, 05:41:53 PM
Busted into 9/2.

Fingers crossed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 27, 2014, 05:48:06 PM
Where else these days but 2nd...... ;popcorn;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 27, 2014, 06:04:51 PM
how many 2nds for us this weekend?

even worse beaten by Racy the complete non winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on July 27, 2014, 07:36:00 PM
Just seen the name of a trainer pop up when i was checking the racing results J L EYRE  was his name is this the same Les Eyre that trained here before moving off to Spain? 

I remember him fondly from backing horses like Jambo (I'm sure it was) many moons ago back at Mussy.  I think I was about 15/16  at the time and had 3 legs up on a lucky 15 and Jambo hoses in for the 4th @ 25/1.  Also had a big single on for me back then (£5e/w)  I think I scooped something like £3k for the lucky 15.  Should have packed in gambling back then.   Obvs not being old enough had to make sure my old fella got a decnt bung off it as well. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 28, 2014, 07:31:37 AM
Where else these days but 2nd...... ;popcorn;

Thats OK.

Only had a small interest, but I got 9/1, & it went off at 9/2 I think.

Thanks, good work.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 28, 2014, 08:41:01 AM
Just seen the name of a trainer pop up when i was checking the racing results J L EYRE  was his name is this the same Les Eyre that trained here before moving off to Spain? 

I remember him fondly from backing horses like Jambo (I'm sure it was) many moons ago back at Mussy.  I think I was about 15/16  at the time and had 3 legs up on a lucky 15 and Jambo hoses in for the 4th @ 25/1.  Also had a big single on for me back then (£5e/w)  I think I scooped something like £3k for the lucky 15.  Should have packed in gambling back then.   Obvs not being old enough had to make sure my old fella got a decnt bung off it as well. 

Yep same one

Started back very well with some big prices as well, worth keeping an eye on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: cheapwetsuit on July 28, 2014, 08:57:45 AM
Just seen the name of a trainer pop up when i was checking the racing results J L EYRE  was his name is this the same Les Eyre that trained here before moving off to Spain? 

I remember him fondly from backing horses like Jambo (I'm sure it was) many moons ago back at Mussy.  I think I was about 15/16  at the time and had 3 legs up on a lucky 15 and Jambo hoses in for the 4th @ 25/1.  Also had a big single on for me back then (£5e/w)  I think I scooped something like £3k for the lucky 15.  Should have packed in gambling back then.   Obvs not being old enough had to make sure my old fella got a decnt bung off it as well. 

Yep same one

Started back very well with some big prices as well, worth keeping an eye on.

Pfffffft...
http://www.slang.com.au/o/old-fella/ (http://www.slang.com.au/o/old-fella/)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 28, 2014, 12:12:45 PM
Over in the big handicap at Galway tonite John Quinn has sent Swynmor over to race under topweight.

Earlier in the season this horse had his first race for Quinn and dotted up, and it went into my notebook as yet another potential Ebor horse.

Not run since, and put up a chunk in the ratings, but seems an odd place to go when his only other future entry is The Ebor.

Its an amateur race but Codd is a decent enough jock, but at 16-1 he could still be ahead of the handicapper.

All things considered i shall have a small ew bet @16s. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 28, 2014, 04:03:26 PM
Afternoon

Quite keen on Blue Surf in the first at Goodwood tomorrow 1.55.

Was joint fav for the race last year and ran ok, but never really in the hunt. He has run some nice races this year without looking too dangerous and i suspect this has been his target all year, as tomorrow they bring out the first time cheekpieces. It seems ok on all sorts of ground

Has some reasonable back form at Goodwood and as its the Harwood local course, they will be doubly keen to get a winner.

Compared to the 13/2 it went off last year, I'm very happy with the 20-1 its priced up at right now. If it is fancied it could be quite well backed from that price. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 28, 2014, 06:42:30 PM
Good stuff, and gl us.

Goodwood, lets 'ave ya!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on July 28, 2014, 07:29:30 PM
Cheers Adz, sky 5 places and BOG = Profit.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on July 28, 2014, 07:30:36 PM
Cheers Adz, sky 5 places and BOG = Profit.

was just about to post this, adz if you want any with me through sky (or any other regular tipsters) drop me a message

<< Confirmed still got a mug account


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 28, 2014, 07:39:17 PM
Over in the big handicap at Galway tonite John Quinn has sent Swynmor over to race under topweight.

Earlier in the season this horse had his first race for Quinn and dotted up, and it went into my notebook as yet another potential Ebor horse.

Not run since, and put up a chunk in the ratings, but seems an odd place to go when his only other future entry is The Ebor.

Its an amateur race but Codd is a decent enough jock, but at 16-1 he could still be ahead of the handicapper.

All things considered i shall have a small ew bet @16s. GL


Glad to be of service. Sadly Mr Codd gave him a bit much to do but the way he powered up the straight after the extreme left turn at the final bend suggests he has another decent pot in him.

Hoping to actually nail one of these this week. Too many pocket money profits. Need a grown up contribution!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 28, 2014, 07:41:19 PM
Over in the big handicap at Galway tonite John Quinn has sent Swynmor over to race under topweight.

Earlier in the season this horse had his first race for Quinn and dotted up, and it went into my notebook as yet another potential Ebor horse.

Not run since, and put up a chunk in the ratings, but seems an odd place to go when his only other future entry is The Ebor.

Its an amateur race but Codd is a decent enough jock, but at 16-1 he could still be ahead of the handicapper.

All things considered i shall have a small ew bet @16s. GL


Glad to be of service. Sadly Mr Codd gave him a bit much to do but the way he powered up the straight after the extreme left turn at the final bend suggests he has another decent pot in him.

Hoping to actually nail one of these this week. Too many pocket money profits. Need a grown up contribution!

Maybe Barnet Fair will give you a lump tomorrow ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 28, 2014, 07:43:41 PM
Cheers Adz, sky 5 places and BOG = Profit.

was just about to post this, adz if you want any with me through sky (or any other regular tipsters) drop me a message

<< Confirmed still got a mug account


Cheers mate. Nice gesture.

Had half on with these but rest elsewhere, so a touch painful, but glad you had a tickle on QJ.  ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 28, 2014, 07:49:37 PM
Over in the big handicap at Galway tonite John Quinn has sent Swynmor over to race under topweight.

Earlier in the season this horse had his first race for Quinn and dotted up, and it went into my notebook as yet another potential Ebor horse.

Not run since, and put up a chunk in the ratings, but seems an odd place to go when his only other future entry is The Ebor.

Its an amateur race but Codd is a decent enough jock, but at 16-1 he could still be ahead of the handicapper.

All things considered i shall have a small ew bet @16s. GL


Glad to be of service. Sadly Mr Codd gave him a bit much to do but the way he powered up the straight after the extreme left turn at the final bend suggests he has another decent pot in him.

Hoping to actually nail one of these this week. Too many pocket money profits. Need a grown up contribution!

Maybe Barnet Fair will give you a lump tomorrow ;)



Haha.

Dont forget the 5 place firms!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 29, 2014, 12:54:00 PM
Gonna chuck a few big pricers about for some small beer fun.

3.05  Anjaal. 25s.... 3 year old have a good record in this race, and as the other one is almost evens, and Anjaal did me a good turn at the July meet last year...

4.50 Skytrain.14s... Just felt this one has been run to get a decent mark having had about 50 runs already this year. Would be typical Johnstone MO.

5.20 With Barnet out I see one of Dandys other entries is Fitz flyer, 14s.... who has been quietly fancied a bit recently, Got Fanning on, who, bar an AW bomb has a nice record on him. Well in on past form and run ok at GW over 5 both previous times.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on July 29, 2014, 02:10:25 PM

Having a go with Ajman Bridge 5 places in the 1.55 and Secret Art in the 4.50


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 29, 2014, 03:33:44 PM
Afternoon

Quite keen on Blue Surf in the first at Goodwood tomorrow 1.55.

Was joint fav for the race last year and ran ok, but never really in the hunt. He has run some nice races this year without looking too dangerous and i suspect this has been his target all year, as tomorrow they bring out the first time cheekpieces. It seems ok on all sorts of ground

Has some reasonable back form at Goodwood and as its the Harwood local course, they will be doubly keen to get a winner.

Compared to the 13/2 it went off last year, I'm very happy with the 20-1 its priced up at right now. If it is fancied it could be quite well backed from that price. GL


Dont think the term "running good" will be seen anywhere in this thread. Pays 5 places. Naturally finish 6th. In Lennox Stakes, back Anjaal ew at 25s and finishes third, after 3 get taken out, beaten about half a length tops. Marv,


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 30, 2014, 09:44:17 AM
Gooder looks to difficult today and I shall have only one bet, but it  will be max ew on Ray Ward in the first.

Kieron gave it a modest(at best)ride at RA and got caught up when travelling well, went from being in a good position to 25 lengths behind with 2f left. Finished 9 lengths behind and easing up.

I noted on TFT yesterday, i was worried about the 3 yr old fav over the max distance, so money where mouth is, and hope Crowley does a better job than Fallon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on July 30, 2014, 11:07:30 AM
Goodwood.

Lets see if I am learning from the BE stuff.    I picked my selections earlier, I hoped I was thinking through the races like Neil.  If not then I'm still not getting it and I'm probably going to swerve picking my own stuff at all on horses on future as barring some miracles it just seems like a slow way of losing money steadily to me. 

Race 1 - Lion Beacon, Lieutanent Miller (2nd last year) and Ray Ward (would be my 3 against the fav) I took Adz comments on  oard about the fav. (All e/w)

Race 2 - Cloudscape and Observational small win bets.

Race 3 - Only fool would be against Kingman - stepfoward me.  Outstrip very small win only.

Race 4 - Probably going to wait to nearer race time and make sure we have the 8 and back Tupi quite biggish e/w.

Race 5 -  Innaguration, Royal Razalma and Touchline (all e/w)

Race 6 - Looks difficult if forced into a bet I'd be betting Patterned small e/w. 

Race 7 - George Rooke, Liberty Jack and an absolute flyer on Valais Girl. (again all e/w bigger on the first 2 and the last one would be smallish) 

I think were I need help is staking properly. Out of  the selections my nap would probably be Lieutanent Miller and NB Tupi. 

Thoughts on these?  To see if I am understanding things should I be given my reasoning behind each selection or for purpose of this fred is it ok just to stick selections up? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on July 30, 2014, 01:16:39 PM
All this lovely weather and fine racing at Goodwood making me feel like a trip to Leicester evening meeting today.

Any thoughts or fancies please.

Cheers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 30, 2014, 01:42:45 PM
Just had a good look, and I really couldn't even hint at something I fancy.

Sorry. GL and have fun.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on July 30, 2014, 01:46:22 PM
Just had a good look, and I really couldn't even hint at something I fancy.

Sorry. GL and have fun.

Thanks and good to see you giving your thoughts again.

Cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on July 30, 2014, 01:56:35 PM
As a general rule of thumb i tend to back the draw more at Leicester than the horses themselves.  My opinion fwiw is horses coming down the middle/far side seem to perform better.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on July 30, 2014, 02:12:09 PM

Think I'll have a bit on Ballinderry Boy in the first Betfair win/place.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on July 30, 2014, 02:17:00 PM

think I'll place lay the fav in the first - MJ already making excuses lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 30, 2014, 02:29:30 PM
Fook me.

More seconds than TK Max.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 30, 2014, 02:33:03 PM
Whats worse is most of ours the last week have been beaten by unfathomable types

Fair play to Ian Williams though only had that two years and won on debut for him at Wolverhampton of about 50!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 30, 2014, 02:36:59 PM
Whats worse is most of ours the last week have been beaten by unfathomable types

Fair play to Ian Williams though only had that two years and won on debut for him at Wolverhampton of about 50!



Annoying thing is if i was a 3/4 man per race Teak/Racy etc would have been backed as savers. Ho hum.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 30, 2014, 02:37:45 PM
Amazing that Teak won that race, because SdS was battering him with a fair way to go!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 30, 2014, 02:38:49 PM
Whats worse is most of ours the last week have been beaten by unfathomable types

Fair play to Ian Williams though only had that two years and won on debut for him at Wolverhampton of about 50!



Annoying thing is if i was a 3/4 man per race Teak/Racy etc would have been backed as savers. Ho hum.

Ha, I've backed that Racy a few times, and Es Que Love, too.

Best steer clear of them until about 2016 I guess :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 30, 2014, 02:39:44 PM
Amazing that Teak won that race, because SdS was battering him with a fair way to go!



SDS has an awful goodwood record

or at least did :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 30, 2014, 03:50:31 PM
Cant believe the only commentator in the world that cant pronounce Koh Samui correctly has got the third race in a row he has run in.

Really annoying every time he says it!!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on July 30, 2014, 03:55:43 PM
Cant believe the only commentator in the world that cant pronounce Koh Samui correctly has got the third race in a row he has run in.

Really annoying every time he says it!!!!

Think this should me in the moaners thread.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 30, 2014, 10:52:04 PM
My interest was piqued by Moonraker after he won on his only run to date and the the 2nd & 3rd went on to win next time out. The second Mubtaghaa then went on to finish 3rd in the Windsor Castle.
He is entered for the Keeneland Phoenix Stakes at the Curragh 10/08/2014 and the Nunthorpe. My question is: What chance does he have of getting a run in either of these as there are 50+ entries for both at present?
Only Coral have prices for the Nunthorpe at present and are offering 40-1.


http://www.racingpost.com/horses/owner_home.sd?owner_id=201205#topOwnerTabs=owner_entries&bottomOwnerTabs=owner_form
I have the feeling (probably misguided) that he maybe something special and is currently 12/1 for the 2.35 Goodwood tomorrow in a race that should be ok for ew so long as 8 go. I've had a small bet this evening and will be tempted to go in again tomorrow if the 12`s and number of runners hold up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 30, 2014, 11:34:02 PM
Needless to say the only other bet I had today, which I mentioned to Tighty earlier, was Lulu the Zulu.

Hey, Guess where he finished.

More TK Max tomorrow folks....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on July 31, 2014, 12:53:02 AM
Goodwood.

Lets see if I am learning from the BE stuff.    I picked my selections earlier, I hoped I was thinking through the races like Neil.  If not then I'm still not getting it and I'm probably going to swerve picking my own stuff at all on horses on future as barring some miracles it just seems like a slow way of losing money steadily to me. 

Race 1 - Lion Beacon, Lieutanent Miller (2nd last year) and Ray Ward (would be my 3 against the fav) I took Adz comments on  oard about the fav. (All e/w)

Race 2 - Cloudscape and Observational small win bets.

Race 3 - Only fool would be against Kingman - stepfoward me.  Outstrip very small win only.

Race 4 - Probably going to wait to nearer race time and make sure we have the 8 and back Tupi quite biggish e/w.

Race 5 -  Innaguration, Royal Razalma and Touchline (all e/w)

Race 6 - Looks difficult if forced into a bet I'd be betting Patterned small e/w. 

Race 7 - George Rooke, Liberty Jack and an absolute flyer on Valais Girl. (again all e/w bigger on the first 2 and the last one would be smallish) 

I think were I need help is staking properly. Out of  the selections my nap would probably be Lieutanent Miller and NB Tupi. 

Thoughts on these?  To see if I am understanding things should I be given my reasoning behind each selection or for purpose of this fred is it ok just to stick selections up? 

Only bet the two Neil put up in Race 1 small loss there.  Race 2 I backed both Neils selections small loss, I had picked one out.  Race 3 I actually backed Kingsman in the end up, silly really but they all count.  Race 4 big win for me as I had a chunk on my selection and Neil stuck up the 3rd at 40/1 so I also had that.   Race 5 I backed the winner one of my picks also took Neils in this which was 2nd I bet it e/w. Race 6, read between the lines on BE and got matched on the winner at 40/1 on betfair.   Race 7 was just bleurgh.   All in all for me was a very good day, think winning day for BE as well.  But thanks to backing Tupi, Royal Razalma off my own back I made back what I lost yesterday.  All in all a good day.  I through a few darts at some other races at Leicester and Galway with mixed success, think though I need to sort out staking and just be more selective. 

Roll on day 3 tomorrow, it looks really tough to me. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 31, 2014, 09:08:44 AM
If it looks tough to you, God help the rest of us...   Congrats on results yesterday.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 31, 2014, 09:23:00 AM
My interest was piqued by Moonraker after he won on his only run to date and the the 2nd & 3rd went on to win next time out. The second Mubtaghaa then went on to finish 3rd in the Windsor Castle.
He is entered for the Keeneland Phoenix Stakes at the Curragh 10/08/2014 and the Nunthorpe. My question is: What chance does he have of getting a run in either of these as there are 50+ entries for both at present?
Only Coral have prices for the Nunthorpe at present and are offering 40-1.


http://www.racingpost.com/horses/owner_home.sd?owner_id=201205#topOwnerTabs=owner_entries&bottomOwnerTabs=owner_form
I have the feeling (probably misguided) that he maybe something special and is currently 12/1 for the 2.35 Goodwood tomorrow in a race that should be ok for ew so long as 8 go. I've had a small bet this evening and will be tempted to go in again tomorrow if the 12`s and number of runners hold up.



Normally, I am happy to put a line through Channon horses unless they have proved exceptional. I mentioned the other day, there are certain trainers, I let their horses run for the amount of winners they produce.

I can't back the fav, despite how impressed I was in his last win. Price too short.

I recall watching the race during a deluge and the fav only went away in the final few strides, so am happy to play Jungle Cat ew to take revenge on quicker ground, but your enthusiasm is infectious for Moonraker, so I will chuck a second ew bet on yours too. GL Simon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 31, 2014, 09:27:44 AM
My interest was piqued by Moonraker after he won on his only run to date and the the 2nd & 3rd went on to win next time out. The second Mubtaghaa then went on to finish 3rd in the Windsor Castle.
He is entered for the Keeneland Phoenix Stakes at the Curragh 10/08/2014 and the Nunthorpe. My question is: What chance does he have of getting a run in either of these as there are 50+ entries for both at present?
Only Coral have prices for the Nunthorpe at present and are offering 40-1.


http://www.racingpost.com/horses/owner_home.sd?owner_id=201205#topOwnerTabs=owner_entries&bottomOwnerTabs=owner_form

I was rather tempted by that, so had a small interest, thank you. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 31, 2014, 10:04:55 AM
Cant believe the only commentator in the world that cant pronounce Koh Samui correctly has got the third race in a row he has run in.

Really annoying every time he says it!!!!

What about the unbelievably lazy Dessie Scahill's pronunciation of 'Brooch'? Pretty sure it's not pronounced the same as Gooch.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on July 31, 2014, 01:08:41 PM

Madeed, Nymphea, Secret Hint and Jodies Jem Lucky 15 for me today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on July 31, 2014, 03:23:06 PM
This is aftertiming of a sort, but not because I never got the e/w money on Louie.  I left it up on betfair this morning planning to back it but had to go out wallpaper shopping this morning and was late getting back.   I have been trying to go through the races and put what Neil has been writing to good use.  What price would I have got on the outcome of this post I made  elsewhere?

Race 2 - Alhan Emarati is likely to be a non runner so we are down to 8 and with a short price fav can see him sticking up more big outsiders. Fav should win but Louie De Palma and Jungle Cat could be the ones to finish in the place money. Louie especially at around 25/1.

I manaaged to get matched on Junglecat to place.  I had smallish win on Louie but my bigger placebet never got matched. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 31, 2014, 10:15:20 PM
Gonna have a little dabble on Fort Bastion ew 20-1 in the 3.40

Ran a decent race behind Heavy Metal last time and has a few pound pull for a few lengths etc. James Sullivan back on board, and looked like being back over a mile should help based on the way he finished last week, also going across the track and losing a fair amount of ground.

Previously won over a mile off 106, so plenty in hand. Decent draw tomorrow and acts on most ground.

Had a saver earlier on old friend Red Avenger, but the 20s long gone now sadly. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on July 31, 2014, 10:42:46 PM
Gonna have a little dabble on Fort Bastion ew 20-1 in the 3.40

Ran a decent race behind Heavy Metal last time and has a few pound pull for a few lengths etc. James Sullivan back on board, and looked like being back over a mile should help based on the way he finished last week, also going across the track and losing a fair amount of ground.

Previously won over a mile off 106, so plenty in hand. Decent draw tomorrow and acts on most ground.

Had a saver earlier on old friend Red Avenger, but the 20s long gone now sadly. GL

Cheers Adz...(.3.05  not 3.40 )


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 01, 2014, 12:23:11 AM
I had another pretty decent day today.  I find myself in between a rock and a hard place as I have bought the BE package but I also like to back my own stuff.  and  do a right up of my selections before for talking over with mates.  So as not to make it all sound like aftertiming I'll stick my bets for tomorrow up, these are my first picks I will then have a look at the betting in the morning and read through Neil's choices before making final selections. 

Race 1 - Quest for Peace - small win. Looked better at 7/1 but has gone.

Race 2 - Want to be yours/Rapprochment both e/w (preference for first named)

Race 3 - Bronze Angel/Our Channel (both e/w preference for the first named price seems to have gone now on second named.

Race 4 - Take Cover/Demora/Hay Chewed (all e/w in preference as named)

Race 5 - Markaz e/w

Race 6 - Muteela (NAP) If pushed for an e/w Manderlay

Race 7 - Festival Thearter/Cape Caster both win only.

Certainly welcome any comments on my selections. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on August 01, 2014, 09:35:08 AM
selections with prices would help. Something you would back at 10/1 would probably not be a back at 5/1 for example.

Cheers for the write up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 01, 2014, 10:35:01 AM
I had another pretty decent day today.  I find myself in between a rock and a hard place as I have bought the BE package but I also like to back my own stuff.  and  do a right up of my selections before for talking over with mates.  So as not to make it all sound like aftertiming I'll stick my bets for tomorrow up, these are my first picks I will then have a look at the betting in the morning and read through Neil's choices before making final selections. 

Race 1 - Quest for Peace - small win. Looked better at 7/1 but has gone.

Race 2 - Want to be yours/Rapprochment both e/w (preference for first named)

Race 3 - Bronze Angel/Our Channel (both e/w preference for the first named price seems to have gone now on second named.

Race 4 - Take Cover/Demora/Hay Chewed (all e/w in preference as named)

Race 5 - Markaz e/w

Race 6 - Muteela (NAP) If pushed for an e/w Manderlay

Race 7 - Festival Thearter/Cape Caster both win only.

Certainly welcome any comments on my selections. 

Well done Kmac, great to see someone learning the game and not afraid to show it, would be great to see your thought process for the selections ( I'm presuming you do something to narrow them down) refreshing aspect to the thread if you can keep it up. No doubt we can all learn abit along with you as well. Great Stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 01, 2014, 10:55:19 AM

George Guru in the 3.05 and Indignant in the 4.50  EW double and singles.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 01, 2014, 12:19:23 PM
I had another pretty decent day today.  I find myself in between a rock and a hard place as I have bought the BE package but I also like to back my own stuff.  and  do a right up of my selections before for talking over with mates.  So as not to make it all sound like aftertiming I'll stick my bets for tomorrow up, these are my first picks I will then have a look at the betting in the morning and read through Neil's choices before making final selections. 

Race 1 - Quest for Peace - small win. Looked better at 7/1 but has gone.

Race 2 - Want to be yours/Rapprochment both e/w (preference for first named)

Race 3 - Bronze Angel/Our Channel (both e/w preference for the first named price seems to have gone now on second named.

Race 4 - Take Cover/Demora/Hay Chewed (all e/w in preference as named)

Race 5 - Markaz e/w

Race 6 - Muteela (NAP) If pushed for an e/w Manderlay

Race 7 - Festival Thearter/Cape Caster both win only.

Certainly welcome any comments on my selections. 

Well done Kmac, great to see someone learning the game and not afraid to show it, would be great to see your thought process for the selections ( I'm presuming you do something to narrow them down) refreshing aspect to the thread if you can keep it up. No doubt we can all learn abit along with you as well. Great Stuff.

Sure thing, the thing I think I have picked up most from Neils writings on here and on the subscribed service is its not always about finding the winner of the race because sometimes we get better value in the place with something that is pretty solid that also has a high% chance of winning.    I have also found myself ignoring the market to start with, previously I'd have looked at the market and already drawn pretty strong conclusions before actually thinking about the race as a whole.  Also think its an important factor to translate form from other courses to the course that we are backing.  Before I'd maybe do this with Brighton but having read on here from guys like RedArmi that there are similar courses were particular horses do better at similar type courses I have tried to bear that in mind. 

Onto the selections then, for Race 1 I just thought the fav was short enough and wasn't cnvinced that the price we were getting represented any significant value.  We all know Godolphin can ready one but I think its a huge ask to have Enke anywhere near his best after nearly 2 years off.  I thought Battle of Marengo woluldn't be too keen on the ground.  Cafe Society is back up in trip after finishing well at Ascot previously over 10f, and although a progressive type I wasn't sure it was upto the class of winning a race of this type.  That left me with Songcraft, Aussie Reigns and Quest for Peace.  Aussie Reigns looks like a fun horse that the connections will get good value from in decent handicaps not sure its upto winning a group 3.  We know Songcraft gos well fresh but it doesn't have any course and distance form which Quest for Peace has a previous winner of this race.  I was really between the 2, but in the end decided as the prices were pretty similar that the C&D win, return from down under and the fact Cumani was unlikely to fire this into a group 3 without thinking t had much of a chance convinced me to have a smallish bet on that, I also really like Andrea Atzeni, he has a touch of class and for my money he has a built in clock that sees him run fractions well and again we know the horse likes to fron run and there aren't many coming from off the pace this week.  Horse has also won over a slightly longer trip so I don't see it tiring if its close to full fitness.

In race 2 - I was really looking for something to be against the fav with again I just thought it was short enough and although clearly a high class animal I thought I'd try and get one that would improve for previous runs.  There wasn't great e/w value to be had but prior to the non runners I thought my 2 were reasonably priced and worth a few pounds with the revised terms I am thinking of changing course and just backing Raprochment win only.  This horse really could be anything it destroyed not too bad a field on its only start and has been drastically upped in class, my instincts tell me the stable like this one. 

Race 3 - bit of a minefield I initially thought Bronze Angel ran a reasonable race on Saturday but never really got the run of the race and I think the ground was against him somewhat, for my money this is a horse that prefers good fast ground.  The draw looks  bad at first but as a hold up performer it might allow Martin Dwyer an opportunity to ease him into the race.  I considered Fort Bastion as Neil stuck that up on Saturday but again the clerk of the course kind of scuppered his plans by watering.  I was really keen on Our Chanel last night when I saw the price was 25/1 I deposited funds to back this on a new site I don't have an account with only for the price to no longer be available.  Our Chanle has been tried at a decent level and I think it will go on improving and Haggas has his horses in great nick at the mo.   There were doubts over quite a few of these and it really is a tough handicap to crack.  I think with the 2 non runners this morning andpotential for a few more to come out I will wait to nearer race time before actually betting.  I was looking forward to seeing what Neil selected in this race as he seems to have an angle in these big handicaps. 

Race 4 - I think there is definitely a draw bias over the sprint trips this week and nothing drawn outside of box 5 has won any of the sprints.  So I was looking for horses that were drawn low and that would be up with the pace.  When i looked at the race last night Sky were paying 4 places at 1/5 the odds and the prices weren't massively out from the other books that were going 1/5 for first 3 and the few that were going 1/4 for the first 3. 

Race 5 -  Is the sort of race that makes me want to scratch my own eyes out. A nursery is basically a handicap for 2 year olds. Some of these have solid form to go on some don't and could be either really good or really bad. Right now I don't feel like this is a race I want to bet, but if the price was right and the terms were good I'd be on Markaz looked decent when winning at Ascot, cost loads of monet £200,000 and comes from a stable we know like to win here. Infact I am doing a good job of talking myself into that. (this is what I wrote last night, and I ended up backing it at 9/1) 

Race 6 - I really couldn't see past the front 2 in the betting and the fav just looks good to me can do it from out in front, its from a stable that love winners here and has been banging them in all week it looked really impressive when winning at Ascot.  I just couldn't find a negative. 

Race 7 - The closing race of the day is another tough handicap on paper but the e/w terms arent great so I'd probably side with 2 lively ones win only. The two I like are Festival Thearte and Cape Caster.  Festival Theartre hasn't progressed as expected this year but its been given a few months off the course and it might just be the time of year we get to see the best of it and Cape Caster is from a stable/jockey combo I really like to be onside with. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 01, 2014, 03:37:37 PM
Gonna have a little dabble on Fort Bastion ew 20-1 in the 3.40

Ran a decent race behind Heavy Metal last time and has a few pound pull for a few lengths etc. James Sullivan back on board, and looked like being back over a mile should help based on the way he finished last week, also going across the track and losing a fair amount of ground.

Previously won over a mile off 106, so plenty in hand. Decent draw tomorrow and acts on most ground.

Had a saver earlier on old friend Red Avenger, but the 20s long gone now sadly. GL

Easy game if you have more than 1. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 01, 2014, 03:38:50 PM

Well done Adz!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 01, 2014, 04:19:16 PM

Well done Adz!

Completely missed this, but good shout


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 01, 2014, 06:06:04 PM
Nice one adz backing an ed dunlop winner means you must be in form

Backed an old friend SIR MAXIMILLIAN tomorrow in the stewards at 25's

Backed him on first start for Pitt at Chester, since won cosily in Ireland and although this is another massive step up in class looks a bit disrespected for Pitt


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 01, 2014, 06:14:43 PM
Another decent day all round. 

I managed 2 wins of my own and I had Neils in the last with one of mine.  In the first race I actually swerved my pick and ended up backing one of Neils place only once the money started to come for the jolly. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 01, 2014, 09:19:10 PM
Nice one adz backing an ed dunlop winner means you must be in form

Backed an old friend SIR MAXIMILLIAN tomorrow in the stewards at 25's

Backed him on first start for Pitt at Chester, since won cosily in Ireland and although this is another massive step up in class looks a bit disrespected for Pitt


Have had a couple of bob on yours, but watching reruns of last year I have added Ninjago to Muthmir that I backed earlier in the week. He came from miles back and has run a couple of interesting trials for this. Muthmir just looked too big earlier in the week at 9s to go unbacked. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 01, 2014, 09:25:19 PM
Another decent day all round. 

I managed 2 wins of my own and I had Neils in the last with one of mine.  In the first race I actually swerved my pick and ended up backing one of Neils place only once the money started to come for the jolly. 

Haven't got to watch any of the racing today, was you pleased with your write up and opinion compared to how the racing actually went, anything your gonna change for tomorrow?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 01, 2014, 09:26:35 PM
Nice one adz backing an ed dunlop winner means you must be in form

Backed an old friend SIR MAXIMILLIAN tomorrow in the stewards at 25's

Backed him on first start for Pitt at Chester, since won cosily in Ireland and although this is another massive step up in class looks a bit disrespected for Pitt


Have had a couple of bob on yours, but watching reruns of last year I have added Ninjago to Muthmir that I backed earlier in the week. He came from miles back and has run a couple of interesting trials for this. Muthmir just looked too big earlier in the week at 9s to go unbacked. GL

Barnet Fair running tmrw Adz, you put him up earlier in the week, any good tmrw?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 01, 2014, 09:36:55 PM
Nice one adz backing an ed dunlop winner means you must be in form

Backed an old friend SIR MAXIMILLIAN tomorrow in the stewards at 25's

Backed him on first start for Pitt at Chester, since won cosily in Ireland and although this is another massive step up in class looks a bit disrespected for Pitt


Have had a couple of bob on yours, but watching reruns of last year I have added Ninjago to Muthmir that I backed earlier in the week. He came from miles back and has run a couple of interesting trials for this. Muthmir just looked too big earlier in the week at 9s to go unbacked. GL

Barnet Fair running tmrw Adz, you put him up earlier in the week, any good tmrw?

Haha, we've both got anti-tilt money on him :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 01, 2014, 09:52:30 PM
I didn't think he was overly effective over 6f but he has won over it.

He was actually in the Stewards last year and ran ok only beaten 5 lengths. If it stays firm I think 14s is fair value especially with 5 places. This field is far weaker than last years SC and he is certainly in form, a big plus. It could also be argued he has been finishing his races like he needs a bit further now.

I think I'm trying to convince myself to get stuck in ;0)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 01, 2014, 10:37:46 PM
I didn't think he was overly effective over 6f but he has won over it.

He was actually in the Stewards last year and ran ok only beaten 5 lengths. If it stays firm I think 14s is fair value especially with 5 places. This field is far weaker than last years SC and he is certainly in form, a big plus. It could also be argued he has been finishing his races like he needs a bit further now.

I think I'm trying to convince myself to get stuck in ;0)

It's one of those that u tip up and it wins later in the week, can't have nothing on it at 14's I'd be gutted if it won and didn't have a bean. Gl.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 02, 2014, 12:20:59 AM
Race 1: Pandar, Extrasolar, Slip Sliding Away, Barnet Fair and Secondo. Make my list, I could probably fire in 2 or 3 more to be honest. I'm probably playing this small as want to see what the draw effect is tomorrow.

Race 2 - With Satelite coming out we're down to 16 runners, fav looks solid but plenty short enough, would take a punt with Oasis Fantasy and Second Step.

Race 3 - Amazing Maria

Race 4 - Going to leave this to after race 1 as will have a much better feel for the draw but Muthmir was very impressive last week. Boomerng Bob also looks backable e/w. Probably 5 in this. Could easily back front 10 e/w in market and it woldn't be far off being right.

Race 5 - Fav looks solid but far too short for me to bet so I'd be looking for some e/w value the 3 that stand out are Dutch Connection, Dance of Fire, and Secret Brief. Ideally we'd want one or 2 non runners to make it more favourable.

Race 6 - Fav looks solid again, definitely best horse but Sakkis could be the danger.

Race 7 - Desert Ace and Angel Flores look pretty solid e/w bets.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 02, 2014, 10:03:05 AM

Official lol sample size guide to todays Goodwood sprints

I have looked at the past nine runnings of the stewards cup and consolation race (18 races 454 runners) to see if there any trends that can reduce the field size

1) No wedding tackle required.  All 18 races have been won by geldings 360 geldings have run with 5% winning and 17.2% being places

2) Weight.  There is a trend to the higher weights.  Horses carrying 9-4 or more have won 5.5% of the time and been placed 18.6% of the time

3) Class change.  Horses who ran previously in a Class 2 race have won 4.7% of the time and been placed 17.9% of the time 

4) Draw range. 7.3% of winners and 19.3% of placed horses have been drawn in the middle section

5) Last 3 races.  Horses who have won or placed in all their last 3 races have won 9.1% and been placed 36.4%.  Two good runs from the last 3 have won 7% and placed 15.5%.  The form of the last race seems irrelevant.

2.05

Tatliisu has 5/5

Also like Mission Approved and Shore Step because of the very strong 3 good runs from last 3 stat

3.50

Sir Maximillian has 5/5

Also like Shropshire has run well fresh





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 02, 2014, 10:09:42 AM
Blimey, things getting a bit professional in here. I may have to start a new thread for just mugs that are lucky guessers!

Nice work lads.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 02, 2014, 10:33:24 AM

Official lol sample size guide to todays Goodwood sprints

I have looked at the past nine runnings of the stewards cup and consolation race (18 races 454 runners) to see if there any trends that can reduce the field size

1) No wedding tackle required.  All 18 races have been won by geldings 360 geldings have run with 5% winning and 17.2% being places

2) Weight.  There is a trend to the higher weights.  Horses carrying 9-4 or more have won 5.5% of the time and been placed 18.6% of the time

3) Class change.  Horses who ran previously in a Class 2 race have won 4.7% of the time and been placed 17.9% of the time 

4) Draw range. 7.3% of winners and 19.3% of placed horses have been drawn in the middle section

5) Last 3 races.  Horses who have won or placed in all their last 3 races have won 9.1% and been placed 36.4%.  Two good runs from the last 3 have won 7% and placed 15.5%.  The form of the last race seems irrelevant.

2.05

Tatliisu has 5/5

Also like Mission Approved and Shore Step because of the very strong 3 good runs from last 3 stat

3.50

Sir Maximillian has 5/5

Also like Shropshire has run well fresh





nice post double


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 02, 2014, 10:43:19 AM
Blimey, things getting a bit professional in here. I may have to start a new thread for just mugs that are lucky guessers!

Nice work lads.

Yeah I'm in this camp. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 02, 2014, 10:54:38 AM
Ok. For anyone with any money left at 5.45 you may wish to have a decent ew bet on Wahaab currently 10-1. It wont be by then.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 02, 2014, 02:29:45 PM
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!!!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 02, 2014, 02:40:16 PM
Nice one Adz

Love the way i keep telling people Nicholls is back in form this season but have managed to not back any of his many winners

nice work


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 02, 2014, 02:41:24 PM

Ha!

Well done Adzy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 02, 2014, 03:00:36 PM
No rule 4 on my placed ones!  Though I would've ended up owing them money with ten non-runners....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 02, 2014, 05:12:28 PM
Ground has changed big time at Thirsk and maybe opens up the race a tad.

Had a small ew bet on LastchanceLucas and Lilac Lace, both around 16s.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 02, 2014, 05:45:13 PM
Ground has changed big time at Thirsk and maybe opens up the race a tad.

Had a small ew bet on LastchanceLucas and Lilac Lace, both around 16s.


Right idea. Wrong Easterby. No damage with a third.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 03, 2014, 08:20:10 AM
Adz, Roudee is back at Chester today, running a small Class 2, wasn't disgrace behind a very impressive Tiggy Wiggy and I'm sure I done another horse out of that race that has since run and won ( can't remember it name) any 3-1, any good or short enough?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 03, 2014, 08:24:31 AM
Nice one adz backing an ed dunlop winner means you must be in form

Backed an old friend SIR MAXIMILLIAN tomorrow in the stewards at 25's

Backed him on first start for Pitt at Chester, since won cosily in Ireland and although this is another massive step up in class looks a bit disrespected for Pitt

Unlucky with this yesterday horsey, he is down to run again today at Chester, I presume he will be a non runner but at the moment he is 7-1, what's your thoughts?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 03, 2014, 08:31:13 AM


Ommy,

I just happened upon a Post from several days back when you were unwell & hospitalised.

I know you have had health issues for a while, as have several others here, but you guys seem to cope with it well.

Hope you are on the mend now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 03, 2014, 08:40:43 AM


Ommy,

I just happened upon a Post from several days back when you were unwell & hospitalised.

I know you have had health issues for a while, as have several others here, but you guys seem to cope with it well.

Hope you are on the mend now.

Thanks Tikay, fairly used to it now, am convalescing in Suffolk for a few weeks, in laws have a lovely holiday home on a park with fishing lakes and lots of tranquility, Southwold not far away and the weather is great, just the ticket when I hit tough times, internet to a minimum and plenty of fresh air in the lungs. Although the kids are young they understand my difficulties and they give me the space I need. Thanks for enquiring, your a kind soul.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 03, 2014, 09:12:42 AM
Afternoon

Quite keen on Blue Surf in the first at Goodwood tomorrow 1.55.

Was joint fav for the race last year and ran ok, but never really in the hunt. He has run some nice races this year without looking too dangerous and i suspect this has been his target all year, as tomorrow they bring out the first time cheekpieces. It seems ok on all sorts of ground

Has some reasonable back form at Goodwood and as its the Harwood local course, they will be doubly keen to get a winner.

Compared to the 13/2 it went off last year, I'm very happy with the 20-1 its priced up at right now. If it is fancied it could be quite well backed from that price. GL


Dont think the term "running good" will be seen anywhere in this thread. Pays 5 places. Naturally finish 6th. In Lennox Stakes, back Anjaal ew at 25s and finishes third, after 3 get taken out, beaten about half a length tops. Marv,

Proper heart in mouth moment on Anjaal, stuck a tenner on it just before off on bf, then realised I had laid it rather than backed it (bloody mobile phone screens too small), of course you can imagine what I was like when he started coming near the end, never wanted to win a tenner so much. Silver linings and all that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 03, 2014, 10:25:46 AM
Morning Mr Omm.

Glad to here you're feeling better.

I'm a bit meh about Roudee today and shall probably just wish him well, and watch. But yes, if he reproduces that old Chester form he should win.

I am very interested in the Listed race at 3.05.

Whilst he has a few pounds to make up I think this race could be set up for Body and Soul. Initially he looks to be drawn too wide in 8, but with NR that is actually stall 6. With pace coming from all angles, Ballista, Masamah, Ertijall, Intransigent and Coulsty all led, or are perenial front runners, and in effect could set this up for a closer.

Body and Soul led last time but that was by default as they went too slow early on and he pulled to hard and ran no race. His general profile is of an improver, and at 4 he still has plenty of time.

With a bit of cut in the ground I hope to see him tuck in and pounce late as the race falls apart. 7-1 e/w looks tasty.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 03, 2014, 03:31:03 PM
Bah.

Winner rode the race I hoped B&S would, but to be fair got no gaps when travelling well.

Back to drawing board.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 03, 2014, 10:35:10 PM
Lord of the Dance for me again tommorow in the 8.15 at Carlisle

Is 20/1 at present which is almost double the price ended up at in the hot ladies handicap at Ascot last time. Ok showed little again but the ground according to the met office will stay at least good which is fine

small each play, working on some interesting stats for the Carlisle ladies only card tommorow think there is an angle


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 04, 2014, 09:53:49 AM
Going to post a fancy each day for the next two weeks trying to find a decent ew bet of odds over 5-1. See if we can get more energy into the thread.

At Carlisle tonite I like the eyecatching combo of Klynch and Serena Brotherton in the 7.15.

A winner at Course and the Distance, Klynch is slowly running itself into form and now well below its last winning mark. I hope tonite the superiority of Brotherton in the saddle with be enough to coax it home, with it being effective on ground as it is predicted later.

On a 1-10 scale I will have 2pts ew at the general 8-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 04, 2014, 12:01:45 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/kempton/15:45/winner

Backed EQUITABLE here at 10/1 small win bet. Good debut win on all weather, slight let down in 3 runs since but excuses especially last time on soft ground at Haddock over to far. Good race though plenty of unexposed types


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 04, 2014, 12:41:03 PM
Right so today i have


Spokesperson, Remix (both each way)
Lord of the Dance
Equitable

A lot for me for a Monday! Be happy if one wins

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 04, 2014, 01:19:23 PM
Like the idea of revitalising the thread Adz, will add my picks for comedy value, (like the first far more than the other two)

3.45 Kempton   Barnmore 14/1 e/w  C&D winner, quite like form of staying on 5th behind tenor last time out (beaten horses and winner that day have performed well subsequently)     Jockey takes off 7lb

5.10 Naas  4/1 win Elusive Laurence running well in defeat and drawn well, not huge value but price reflects his chance imo

3.15 Kempton   16/1 e/w Chester Deal, decent effort on his first try at 7f



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 04, 2014, 02:15:10 PM
Good stuff Simon.

It would be good to have a few more posters giving us their thoughts each day.

Don't worry if you may miss a smidge of value by not getting the right balance of win/place 100%. This is about what you fancy each day.

Would be good to see some other opinions.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 04, 2014, 02:25:15 PM
Good luck Simon


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 04, 2014, 03:42:24 PM
Nice start Simon.

20-1 placer!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 04, 2014, 03:46:20 PM
good stuff Simon stayed on pretty well there considering raced very wide throughout


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 04, 2014, 04:12:04 PM
non runner here like a winner, hope Doyle is ok.

Yours ran on well Simon seemed hard to make up ground


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on August 04, 2014, 04:19:21 PM
I am backing Palace Dragon on 4.45 at Kempton, think 4/1 is big - will strip a lot fitter and back to one mile should suit


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 04, 2014, 05:28:55 PM
I am backing Palace Dragon on 4.45 at Kempton, think 4/1 is big - will strip a lot fitter and back to one mile should suit


TBH, was surprised they stepped it back. Prescott's usually start off at a mile less than they actually need and this one even started at a mile as a 2 yr old.

Defo races in it though mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 04, 2014, 05:50:28 PM
I am backing Palace Dragon on 4.45 at Kempton, think 4/1 is big - will strip a lot fitter and back to one mile should suit


TBH, was surprised they stepped it back. Prescott's usually start off at a mile less than they actually need and this one even started at a mile as a 2 yr old.

Defo races in it though mate.

Agreed

Would love to see the trakus data on that race if it was available in this country, very wide trip.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 04, 2014, 06:16:55 PM
Glad i spent two hours researching that this morning...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 04, 2014, 06:58:27 PM
Been waiting on a tracker horse to appear in a handicap as it's last run looked to me like it was being teed up.

Swordbearer ew in the 7pm at Kempton.

Came 6th in a race where Godolphin seemed to have half the field. Loomed up two out but when clear he couldn't go with them, Keniry was nice and easy on him. Fanshaw on fire at the mo, so it might get backed tomorrow.

Another 2pts ew @7-1 with Lads or BFSB


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 04, 2014, 07:54:36 PM
Going to post a fancy each day for the next two weeks trying to find a decent ew bet of odds over 5-1. See if we can get more energy into the thread.

At Carlisle tonite I like the eyecatching combo of Klynch and Serena Brotherton in the 7.15.

A winner at Course and the Distance, Klynch is slowly running itself into form and now well below its last winning mark. I hope tonite the superiority of Brotherton in the saddle with be enough to coax it home, with it being effective on ground as it is predicted later.

On a 1-10 scale I will have 2pts ew at the general 8-1


Didn't really get the breaks, but probably for place money. Expect I may have picked it a race too soon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 05, 2014, 08:59:11 AM
Lord of the Dance made a massive move from last to third 1 furlong out before paying for that late on to tire.

Certainly has a win in it from this mark with a more controlled ride

Nothing for me today gd lk if you play


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 05, 2014, 12:04:31 PM
No strong fancies today, but can't let that stop me having a bet...

7.45 Ripon win bets    Megaleka 9-1  Inxile 7-1 and Captain Dunne 16-1
8.15 Ripon    Sir Frank Morgan 5-1 seems to alternate good and bad runs - lets hope today's a going day
2.00 Ffos Las    will bet As A Dream e/w at a big price if no non-runners as suspect he may appreciate ground, especially as fav is untried in conditions


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: youthnkzR on August 05, 2014, 02:29:29 PM
No strong fancies today, but can't let that stop me having a bet...

7.45 Ripon win bets    Megaleka 9-1  Inxile 7-1 and Captain Dunne 16-1
8.15 Ripon    Sir Frank Morgan 5-1 seems to alternate good and bad runs - lets hope today's a going day
2.00 Ffos Las    will bet As A Dream e/w at a big price if no non-runners as suspect he may appreciate ground, especially as fav is untried in conditions

Hope you bet that with the NR mate! Well played!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 05, 2014, 02:31:27 PM
Booooom Simon!!!!



The Racing Thread. Where the real winners hangout! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 05, 2014, 02:36:56 PM
Thank you, thank you, certainly did take some of the 50's...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 05, 2014, 03:20:10 PM
wowsers hell of a pick

nice one simon


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 05, 2014, 03:22:07 PM

Well done Simon!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 05, 2014, 03:56:18 PM
Picked a good morning to miss checking the thread :D

Well done mate, great pick!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 05, 2014, 07:37:16 PM
Been waiting on a tracker horse to appear in a handicap as it's last run looked to me like it was being teed up.

Swordbearer ew in the 7pm at Kempton.

Came 6th in a race where Godolphin seemed to have half the field. Loomed up two out but when clear he couldn't go with them, Keniry was nice and easy on him. Fanshaw on fire at the mo, so it might get backed tomorrow.

Another 2pts ew @7-1 with Lads or BFSB


Can't compete with Simons majestic 50-1 winner(tytyty again!) but Swordbearer ran a cracker. Clear second best, and I suspect again, may have got there a race early. All profit though as finished at 9-1.


Edit. Must be some terrible race readers out there as just noticed got the win only stake back on betty that I laid back at 1.9.
Never looked odds on to win to me, but more than happy!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 05, 2014, 07:50:22 PM
Been waiting on a tracker horse to appear in a handicap as it's last run looked to me like it was being teed up.

Swordbearer ew in the 7pm at Kempton.

Came 6th in a race where Godolphin seemed to have half the field. Loomed up two out but when clear he couldn't go with them, Keniry was nice and easy on him. Fanshaw on fire at the mo, so it might get backed tomorrow.

Another 2pts ew @7-1 with Lads or BFSB


Can't compete with Simons majestic 50-1 winner(tytyty again!) but Swordbearer ran a cracker. Clear second best, and I suspect again, may have got there a race early. All profit though as finished at 9-1.


Edit. Must be some terrible race readers out there as just noticed got the win only stake back on betty that I laid back at 1.9.
Never looked odds on to win to me, but more than happy!

Can't compete with the amount of seconds your having, well done  ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 05, 2014, 08:40:45 PM
Nice work, thanks for Swordbearer Adz. We just need to get the fav beat in the last at Kempton now, or is that too much to ask?    I'm taking it on with Willly Brennan (11-1 at lunchtime) and  Taquka after the discussion on TFT.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 05, 2014, 08:52:06 PM
Nice work, thanks for Swordbearer Adz. We just need to get the fav beat in the last at Kempton now, or is that too much to ask?    I'm taking it on with Willly Brennan (11-1 at lunchtime) and  Taquka after the discussion on TFT.

I backed Meritocracy at 33s. Been running just in behind in some reasonable fields and hoping he can be the one. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 05, 2014, 08:52:13 PM
It was a going day for Sir Frank, unfortunately 2nd by a head


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 05, 2014, 09:27:31 PM
OMG 40 and 50 to 1 winners in one day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 05, 2014, 09:28:00 PM
Bloody Hell Simon.

Think you should set up your own Betting Line! 50-1 and 33-1. What a star!

Sadly stuck with my own 33-1 shot that traded at 1.66.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 05, 2014, 09:38:39 PM
obv backed yours as well lol, thought you had it a furlong out.  Don't know if it was valid or not but I looked at a website that suggested high drawn horses were not as disadvantaged as the commentary suggested - so looked to pick a couple on that basis.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 05, 2014, 09:40:13 PM
obv backed yours as well lol, thought you had it a furlong out.  Don't know if it was valid or not but I looked at a website that suggested high drawn horses were not as disadvantaged as the commentary suggested - so looked to pick a couple on that basis.

Stupendous stuff, sir!

You can thank me now for not backing either of them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 05, 2014, 09:42:15 PM
jesus wept

amazing one of if not the best days of tipping seen anywhere not just on here

SUPERB!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 05, 2014, 09:44:14 PM
obv backed yours as well lol, thought you had it a furlong out.  Don't know if it was valid or not but I looked at a website that suggested high drawn horses were not as disadvantaged as the commentary suggested - so looked to pick a couple on that basis.

Stupendous stuff, sir!

You can thank me now for not backing either of them.

Haha, this!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 05, 2014, 09:46:17 PM
obv backed yours as well lol, thought you had it a furlong out.  Don't know if it was valid or not but I looked at a website that suggested high drawn horses were not as disadvantaged as the commentary suggested - so looked to pick a couple on that basis.

Draw important but not as much as it is sometimes implied, certainly not a Chester situation.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on August 06, 2014, 12:24:10 AM
incred effort simon.  vwp.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 06, 2014, 06:48:00 AM
OMG 40 and 50 to 1 winners in one day.

You WHAT?

Oh my word, well done Simon.

You could punt horses every day for the rest of your life & not repeat that feat.

Congrats.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 06, 2014, 07:19:03 AM
Well done, great effort.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 10:02:50 AM
Initially I struggled for a bet, but a race which has a couple of friends Mr Manaman and Thatcherite, forced me to have a good look.

Mr Mac after a long time in the wilderness(much like his trainer) has suddenly come good, and wouldn't surprise me if he went on to win 5/6 over the next few races. Thatcherite keeps finding too much trouble and looked uncomfortable here last time with a good draw. Hemmed in on the rails was always going to be an issue for a hold up horse, before anyone asks...
Could be ok today with a wider draw to choose where to settle and come late.

However, in Mr Macs second last race Haajes, now 10(eek), ran a promising race. After getting slightly baulked early doors, he finished about 3.5l behind MM. Now on much better terms and Graham Lee on board(instead of Shirley Teasdale), whereas MM carries over 10st with Kevin Stott now replacing Adrian Nicholls, I see this being much closer.

The cincher is that Haajes has a very good record round the 5F at Ponte.

Lots of ifs and buts but @10-1 1pt ew Haajes. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 10:20:23 AM
The Brighton Mile looks a fair renewal this year.

Fancy a couple small win bets here at big prices not an each way event.

SWORD OF THE LORD bit of 20's around thats tempted me not been with trainer long and has form on soft ground over this c and d, needs to bounce back.

Even bigger price PICENO at 33's, had no chance in a good race at Chester last time drawn 11 and ground to quick. Loves soft ground will race up there and can win from this mark.

The ATR pundits will be banging on about a low draw being key, over this trip on soft ground that is rubbish both of mine are drawn wide and with the riders like to stick to the stands side late on they should have the advantage. Whether either are good enough to hold on from the unexposed favs is doubtful but thats why they are 20's+

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 01:24:40 PM
NRs galore and every direction I look the ones I could choose are out, so leave it to you guys today. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 02:44:02 PM
Interesting snippet I was told today.

Stall 2 at Ponte has a 30% strike rate in all races at Ponte in 2014.

Quite remarkable I thought.

Watch em all lose today!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 06, 2014, 03:35:42 PM
Interesting snippet I was told today.

Stall 2 at Ponte has a 30% strike rate in all races at Ponte in 2014.

Quite remarkable I thought.

Watch em all lose today!

Does 4 count as 2 in the first with 2&3 being out?  ;-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 03:38:28 PM
Burgle Lynch has a licence back




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 06, 2014, 03:39:04 PM
Interesting snippet I was told today.

Stall 2 at Ponte has a 30% strike rate in all races at Ponte in 2014.

Quite remarkable I thought.

Watch em all lose today!

Adz what you think of my od mate Les Eyres Boxing Shadows in the 4:10?  Its out of stall 2 as well.  


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 03:51:28 PM
Interesting snippet I was told today.

Stall 2 at Ponte has a 30% strike rate in all races at Ponte in 2014.

Quite remarkable I thought.

Watch em all lose today!

Adz what you think of my od mate Les Eyres Boxing Shadows in the 4:10?  Its out of stall 2 as well.  


Seems to be getting it together again, and a nice pull with MM, also got David Allen back instead of Jacob Butterfingers. And the magic 2 box!!

I would have done MM earlier, but one of my golden rules is never back those carrying over 10 stone. Again, I may miss out on some but long term it works for me. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 04:07:24 PM
Was close to a bet again for me MM today for me Stott on for Nicholls is a plus if anything


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 04:16:50 PM
more value pie 33's into 14's

Perfectly judged ride no complaints beat the rest streets e.t.c



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 06, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
Wow, crossbar - great call Horsey


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 04:22:10 PM
If we had the rain expected down here think may have got even closer/won

Never mind


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 04:24:01 PM
Good pick horsey. good bit of ew cash.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 06, 2014, 04:33:46 PM
Just watched the race, and thought Piceno was going to get up again once he started coming back.

The burden of my cash just weighed him down... Unlucky mate.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 04:35:43 PM
Simon is the man for winners at that price

Yep the winner has dogged it in the past which gave me brief hope but alas no


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 04:37:21 PM
Was close to a bet again for me MM today for me Stott on for Nicholls is a plus if anything


Not convinced. Made a bit of a mess of that I thought, but that's good. Had none of my cash today, and I reckon he still has a bit up his sleeve, regardless of what that ran appeared to say.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 04:41:38 PM
Its amazing how much these new Appleby inmates find in a finish


cough


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 04:45:52 PM
Its amazing how much these new Appleby inmates find in a finish


cough


Oh dear, is that a  ;bigadz;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 04:46:43 PM
Its amazing how much these new Appleby inmates find in a finish


cough


Oh dear, is that a  ;bigadz;

nope no bet just his horses constantly "find" more especially ones he has got from elsewere, let people make their own mind up why


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 04:53:15 PM
Its amazing how much these new Appleby inmates find in a finish


cough


Oh dear, is that a  ;bigadz;

nope no bet just his horses constantly "find" more especially ones he has got from elsewere, let people make their own mind up why

LOL. Surely its because he is an excellent Trainer!

On another note, entirely unrelated, I am ready a lovely book at the moment called Doped, all about the early days of the Ladbrokes and Will Hill Empires and how associates were alleged involved in race fixing. Smashing read so far. Totally unrelated though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 05:03:08 PM
Sure i have mentioned the story of Art Scholar before but anyway.

Was with Gary Moore and a friend of mine had a very small share., Gary had it very fit for debut and it won which was a bit of a surprise as Gary thought it would struggle to ever win a race and to possibly not bother keeping it in training.

Anyway after that it struggled for him and Gary Moore kept telling him to retire it/take up something else with it. It eventually went to Appleby for about £800 after getting hammered in a class 6 at Brighton of 55. Cue less than 18 months later winning the November handicap from 93 :)

Suffice to say my friend was not to happy that day as he had numerous chances to buy it outright for under a grand!

Subsequent events with other good trainers having horses suddenly improve for the same switch have always made me wonder, especially as said trainer had a brief spell training a few years back with no success.





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 05:42:54 PM
Beloved Southwell is back tommorow night

such a hard card ironically the only big rick i think i can find is HIDDEN ASSET at 10's in the 8.35 trained by Appleby....

Be backed the last twice its been there for him into fav (run shockers both times) they dont usually miss and has been of again for nearly a year this is a terrible race and a long absence is a bonus for this trainer rather than a worry. The fact he brings it back here again is also a plus as he trains near the track so he must think it now acts on it.

Ones thing for sure it wont be this price this time tommorow

On further inspection the 8.05 is interesting

Low grade 3 year old only staying handicap. Johnny Murtagh brings two over which is strange in itself (the other one is an ex Barney Curley beast already being punted in another race) and he has booked Fallon for this one.

Some will see that as a positive but he has often commented how much he hates riding Southwell and the horse looks beatable.

I am going to take it on with two small bets, BUY OUT BOY 9/1 appleby again was well backed the only time in its career it ran here and ran ok from 62 in a class 5. Now down to a class 6 and up again in trip i suspect will be punted again. Even smaller bet on OFELIA for Ellison at 13/2, ran well last time in a seller staying on well looks like needs this trip and like most of these is unexposed at these trips.


So three bets for me tomorrow which are

8.05 BUY OUT BOY 9/1 AND OFELIA 13/2

8.35 HIDDEN TALENT 10/1

slightly more on Hidden Talent than the other two, gd lk wont be around tommorow




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 06, 2014, 06:46:12 PM
Think I'll have a small e/w bet @ 14-1 on Bennelong in the last at Kempton tonight, seems a decent price for a C&D winner off around this mark.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 06, 2014, 09:36:19 PM
BOOOMMMM


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 09:36:27 PM
Think I'll have a small e/w bet @ 14-1 on Bennelong in the last at Kempton tonight, seems a decent price for a C&D winner off around this mark.


Just wow.

Great run, I doff my hat to thee. Your making us some very nice money here Simon, ty ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 06, 2014, 09:41:20 PM
Lol, you couldn't make it up.

Nice one, Simon!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 06, 2014, 09:41:33 PM
the new pricewise?

just superb


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 06, 2014, 09:41:42 PM
BOOOMMMM

Well done Simon , didn't miss that one, small win only, thanks very much.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 06, 2014, 10:08:22 PM
Ha Ha, Fish on a heater, enjoy while it lasts...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 06, 2014, 10:43:19 PM
Think I'll have a small e/w bet @ 14-1 on Bennelong in the last at Kempton tonight, seems a decent price for a C&D winner off around this mark.

What a week you've had, incred stuff, well done Simon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 06, 2014, 11:16:24 PM
Sick, thought i bet this earlier when it was posted i ended up getting caught up elsewhere and obvs never clicked the confirm button.  FML. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 06, 2014, 11:37:23 PM
Safe to say, thanks to Simon, the racing thread is well and truly re-energized!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on August 07, 2014, 05:14:47 AM
Go on Barney Mcgrew at 18/1 at 19:45 newcastle


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 07, 2014, 10:57:52 AM
4.10 Haydock   Go Go Green 20/1 e/w   C&D winner, OK on ground, modest recent form but not beaten out of sight. Stable 2nd string on jockey bookings, though 3lb claimer Joey Haynes has won or placed on half his rides in last week, so doubt he can hurt his chances too much. Draw not ideal, suggest keep stakes small.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 07, 2014, 12:10:53 PM
Been waiting for a slight ease in the ground for Black Douglas, who keeps finishing his races well, but just lacks that extra kick when the ground is firm.

On a C&D where he has won before I am hoping tonite is the nite.

I know its a terrible ew race, but if he came 2nd/or 3rd and I lost out, I would be a tad annoyed. Betty have 4 places so I shall ask for decent terms there.

1pt ew further 1 pt win @14s VC/Lads/Billy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 07, 2014, 12:50:35 PM
Money now for Hidden Asset looks like going of around 4's 5 imo

The other race is completely up in the air as it is the last leg of the barney 4 timer

Not laying the fav in that now easier to leave him well alone


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 07, 2014, 08:18:24 PM
Another NR.

Tomorrow, I was looking to back Noverre to Go next time it ran at Brighton in the form its in. Tomorrow he does.

Bonus, I notice he won the same race last year over a pound higher mark.

At 6s I shall have 2pts ew


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 07, 2014, 08:50:02 PM
one of the stranger heats you will ever see anywhere that. Fallon gives up 5 out then realises his horse has woken up 2 out and nearly wins.

The slowest closing sectionals at Southwell of any race since 2012 as well which made it look worse.

Appleby had two winners already so hopefully the one in the last can win


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 07, 2014, 09:14:41 PM
Appleby has four runners two win the two i back dont, must have read my post :)

No excuses there not good enough


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 07, 2014, 11:33:39 PM
Another NR.

Tomorrow, I was looking to back Noverre to Go next time it ran at Brighton in the form its in. Tomorrow he does.

Bonus, I notice he won the same race last year over a pound higher mark.

At 6s I shall have 2pts ew


Noverre punted in as low as 7/2 this evening.

There is some 16-1 with VC for Fieldgunner Kirkup tomorrow. I think his time is near, but he has a terrible record at Muss, so min ew stakes, but can't see him being that


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 08, 2014, 11:39:16 AM
Noverre now best 7/2, as low as 11/4. Fingers crossed.

Fieldgunner. Shock, a NR!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on August 08, 2014, 11:43:46 AM
Adz, Horsey and various other racing heroes.....

Me and Kev Allen ave organised a group of us going to Ascot tommorow, for a post Vegas get together and to celebrate Corkys ME finish. Most of the boys like a bet and I am loathed to see them bet based on their aunties name for big numbers.  Obviously it's the Shergar Cup, which means plenty of exposed horses, form in the book and unusual jockey bookings.  I'll obviously ask about our contacts however if any if you shrewdies have any fancies post them here. Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 08, 2014, 11:48:39 AM
Adz, Horsey and various other racing heroes.....

Me and Kev Allen ave organised a group of us going to Ascot tommorow, for a post Vegas get together and to celebrate Corkys ME finish. Most of the boys like a bet and I am loathed to see them bet based on their aunties name for big numbers.  Obviously it's the Shergar Cup, which means plenty of exposed horses, form in the book and unusual jockey bookings.  I'll obviously ask about our contacts however if any if you shrewdies have any fancies post them here. Thanks in advance.


Love The Shergar.

Working on it as we speak.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on August 08, 2014, 11:50:33 AM
Legend...appreciate any insights if you don't mind mate after you've been through card


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 08, 2014, 12:20:55 PM
First thought look very un punter friendly races, dont usually look at it tbh but 10-13 runner handicaps with about 5lbs separating the fields seems to be the norm!

All i will add is that Emma Jayne Wilson is a very good rider from Canada been around a long time and won some big races if she is underestimated then could be worth backing on a few rides.

gd lk


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 08, 2014, 12:49:28 PM


Can anyone give me a brief resume of Barney's antics yesterday? I heard there was some mischief.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 08, 2014, 12:56:40 PM


Can anyone give me a brief resume of Barney's antics yesterday? I heard there was some mischief.

There were 5 entries yesterday

Two for Johnny Murtagh (yes that one former top jockey) One of his was ex Barney Curley one wasnt

Two for Des Donovan (been involved in Barneys last punt, one was first time out maiden one was exposed maiden handicapper both ran poorly after drifting late on both occasions)

One for John Butler (formerly Barneys assistant rather shrewd, the man who once said on ATR when asked do you think anyone will claim your horse replied with "I wouldnt if i was them) Again drifted late after being "backed" early on and ran nowhere.


Barney sorry Murtaghs two at Southwell both should have won, the first one which was a Group 2 winner in germany way back when just won after the jockey on the second must have been the only one in the race who didnt get the email (great ride) was 28 lengths back to the third.

The second one was one of the strangest heats you will ever see, Fallon outpaced early gives up 5 furlongs out briefly niggles away and seemingly flies home to be beat half a length. The times suggested the track was so slow last night it was a bit of an illusion.

The in running comments for Fallon are below

"2nd (7)   ½   2 Bwindi (IRE)   J P Murtagh   3   9-6   K Fallon   8/13f
Towards rear, some headway under pressure over 5f out, ridden 4f out (rider briefly stopped riding), plenty to do over 1f out, driven and ran on final furlong, not reach winner opened 4/6"


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 08, 2014, 01:00:06 PM


Can anyone give me a brief resume of Barney's antics yesterday? I heard there was some mischief.

There were 5 entries yesterday

Two for Johnny Murtagh (yes that one former top jockey) One of his was ex Barney Curley one wasnt

Two for Des Donovan (been involved in Barneys last punt, one was first time out maiden one was exposed maiden handicapper both ran poorly after drifting late on both occasions)

One for John Butler (formerly Barneys assistant rather shrewd, the man who once said on ATR when asked do you think anyone will claim your horse replied with "I wouldnt if i was them) Again drifted late after being "backed" early on and ran nowhere.


Barney sorry Murtaghs two at Southwell both should have won, the first one which was a Group 2 winner in germany way back when just won after the jockey on the second must have been the only one in the race who didnt get the email (great ride) was 28 lengths back to the third.

The second one was one of the strangest heats you will ever see, Fallon outpaced early gives up 5 furlongs out briefly niggles away and seemingly flies home to be beat half a length. The times suggested the track was so slow last night it was a bit of an illusion.



Thanks John.

I heard the losers, who were very short in the morning, all drifted hugely, too. Just a coincidence, obv.

How does he get away with it? Does he have dirt on The Jockey Club or summat?

Quite enjoy listening to him ranting, but he's a proper wrong 'un.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 08, 2014, 01:05:37 PM


Can anyone give me a brief resume of Barney's antics yesterday? I heard there was some mischief.

There were 5 entries yesterday

Two for Johnny Murtagh (yes that one former top jockey) One of his was ex Barney Curley one wasnt

Two for Des Donovan (been involved in Barneys last punt, one was first time out maiden one was exposed maiden handicapper both ran poorly after drifting late on both occasions)

One for John Butler (formerly Barneys assistant rather shrewd, the man who once said on ATR when asked do you think anyone will claim your horse replied with "I wouldnt if i was them) Again drifted late after being "backed" early on and ran nowhere.


Barney sorry Murtaghs two at Southwell both should have won, the first one which was a Group 2 winner in germany way back when just won after the jockey on the second must have been the only one in the race who didnt get the email (great ride) was 28 lengths back to the third.

The second one was one of the strangest heats you will ever see, Fallon outpaced early gives up 5 furlongs out briefly niggles away and seemingly flies home to be beat half a length. The times suggested the track was so slow last night it was a bit of an illusion.



Thanks John.

I heard the losers, who were very short in the morning, all drifted hugely, too. Just a coincidence, obv.

How does he get away with it? Does he have dirt on The Jockey Club or summat?

Quite enjoy listening to him ranting, but he's a proper wrong 'un.

Impossible to tell really, they were short enough in the morning but did anybody really back them? Certainly the way they drifted suggests Barney wasnt involved at all.

I suspect the two at Southwell were the only ones that were meant for yesterday with the others possible a smokescreen or just nothing to do with Barney (for now).







Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 08, 2014, 02:00:52 PM

3.30 Muss   Backed Just Paul win 5-1 and Al Khan e/w 14-1 - just to cement my ice cream status I've also done these in a rev f/cast. Will be interested to see how this race pans out, I'm hoping that with plenty of potential front runners there's scope for Just Paul to reel them back if they've gone too fast.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 08, 2014, 02:15:24 PM
Shergar Cup

Will put up some horses later, but very keen on Craig Williams as Top Jockey. Got some good solid rides, that all look capable of winning, but equally all look like decent point scorers.

He is 8-1 with Hills who on Oddschecker says ew-1,2,3, which was going to be a decent ew bet, but the site says win only.

He is 4-1 in 2 other places.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 08, 2014, 02:23:45 PM
Ladbrokes exchange are doing a £25 free bet thingy

If you haven't used their exchange before place upto £25 bet on any exchange market and if it loses get a £25 free bet with a week expiry

well worth doing if you can


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 08, 2014, 02:46:06 PM
Two pretty weak picks..

Mystical Maze  Brighton 15:10  Betdaq  12-1 win. Race looked very weak and a small gamble based on possibility of fav not liking course (in a race I should have just passed on)

Alex My Boy Musselburgh 16:00  Betdaq 13/10  Form in book and 2nd fav not certain to want trip on breeding? Couldn't see much elso to oppose with


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 08, 2014, 02:48:14 PM
Ladbrokes exchange are doing a £25 free bet thingy

If you haven't used their exchange before place upto £25 bet on any exchange market and if it loses get a £25 free bet with a week expiry

well worth doing if you can
Good offer, I found it strange that exch comm is 5% versus 3% Betdaq as this is a Betdaq "skin" if I understood right?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 08, 2014, 02:56:28 PM
Shergar Cup

Will put up some horses later, but very keen on Craig Williams as Top Jockey. Got some good solid rides, that all look capable of winning, but equally all look like decent point scorers.

He is 8-1 with Hills who on Oddschecker says ew-1,2,3, which was going to be a decent ew bet, but the site says win only.

He is 4-1 in 2 other places.

Will Hayler was getting stuck into him last night :D

'Before we get our money on you for the silver saddle, we need to know you're going to be pushing out for 4th, 5th, and 6th. None of this easing off'





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 08, 2014, 03:42:53 PM

Mystical Maze  Brighton 15:10  Betdaq  12-1 win. Race looked very weak and a small gamble based on possibility of fav not liking course (in a race I should have just passed on)


Plumb last, only thing I got right was to oppose fav.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 08, 2014, 03:54:35 PM
Shergar Cup

Will put up some horses later, but very keen on Craig Williams as Top Jockey. Got some good solid rides, that all look capable of winning, but equally all look like decent point scorers.

He is 8-1 with Hills who on Oddschecker says ew-1,2,3, which was going to be a decent ew bet, but the site says win only.

He is 4-1 in 2 other places.

Will Hayler was getting stuck into him last night :D

'Before we get our money on you for the silver saddle, we need to know you're going to be pushing out for 4th, 5th, and 6th. None of this easing off'






Was that a podcast or on TV mate?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 08, 2014, 03:59:31 PM
Shergar Cup

Will put up some horses later, but very keen on Craig Williams as Top Jockey. Got some good solid rides, that all look capable of winning, but equally all look like decent point scorers.

He is 8-1 with Hills who on Oddschecker says ew-1,2,3, which was going to be a decent ew bet, but the site says win only.

He is 4-1 in 2 other places.

Will Hayler was getting stuck into him last night :D

'Before we get our money on you for the silver saddle, we need to know you're going to be pushing out for 4th, 5th, and 6th. None of this easing off'






Was that a podcast or on TV mate?

Podcast for Shergar Cup. Just checked and it's still up on SL now mate.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 08, 2014, 04:01:02 PM
Cheers will have a listen.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 08, 2014, 04:33:49 PM
Two pretty weak picks..

Alex My Boy Musselburgh 16:00  Betdaq 13/10  Form in book and 2nd fav not certain to want trip on breeding? Couldn't see much elso to oppose with


at last !, had forgotten what it was like to have a winner..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 08, 2014, 04:38:58 PM
Two pretty weak picks..

Alex My Boy Musselburgh 16:00  Betdaq 13/10  Form in book and 2nd fav not certain to want trip on breeding? Couldn't see much elso to oppose with


at last !, had forgotten what it was like to have a winner..

Lol, behave!

Will reply to your PM soonest, bit busy Next Door at mo.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 08, 2014, 04:48:49 PM

3.30 Muss   Backed Just Paul win 5-1 and Al Khan e/w 14-1 - just to cement my ice cream status I've also done these in a rev f/cast. Will be interested to see how this race pans out, I'm hoping that with plenty of potential front runners there's scope for Just Paul to reel them back if they've gone too fast.

Don't feel too bad about that having just watched the race, Just Paul beaten a length or so in 4th and the race was set up for the hold up horses.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 08, 2014, 04:49:03 PM
Talking of John Butler he has sent One Chance to Tipperary tonight and Queally gone over for just that ride

Not saying back it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 08, 2014, 06:31:04 PM
Sir Maximilian wins a good group race in Ireland

Was some bet first time at Chester great job by Tim Pitt


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 08, 2014, 06:53:57 PM
Bit rushed so will just post a few bits

Buckland 33-1 ew 1.30. Got a decent form line with Estimate over C&D and trainer starting to get some winners.

Two for Two 10-1 e/w 2.40. Again looks to be run all over the place and these conditions look to suit.

Small ew Astrononerous 8-1, same race Mr Gallivanter bit more ew @ 11-1


Also maybe worth tiny bet on Latin Charm later 8.30 H,


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on August 08, 2014, 07:02:51 PM
Bit rushed so will just post a few bits

Buckland 33-1 ew 1.30. Got a decent form line with Estimate over C&D and trainer starting to get some winners.

Two for Two 10-1 e/w 2.40. Again looks to be run all over the place and these conditions look to suit.

Small ew Astrononerous 8-1, same race Mr Gallivanter bit more ew @ 11-1


Also maybe worth tiny bet on Latin Charm later 8.30 H,

Thanks for that - look good price sweats :)

Missed the price on the jockey after Adz millions got on


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 08, 2014, 08:58:07 PM
Bloody hell. Had some fair winners recently but seconds are doing my head in, especially after they been punted. Latin Charm beat a nose.  ;grr;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 10:15:25 AM
Just seen the Fergal Lynch ride that he got banned 10 years for, for not trying.

Bloody hell, I could find 20 races a week where I have seen jockeys put less effort in and its never even raised an eyebrow. Obviously something very wrong.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 01:25:27 PM
Nice start for our Craig and Goldream there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 09, 2014, 01:59:13 PM
Yes Emma you can ride my gal

lovely stuff


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 02:00:21 PM
Bit rushed so will just post a few bits

Buckland 33-1 ew 1.30. Got a decent form line with Estimate over C&D and trainer starting to get some winners.

Two for Two 10-1 e/w 2.40. Again looks to be run all over the place and these conditions look to suit.

Small ew Astrononerous 8-1, same race Mr Gallivanter bit more ew @ 11-1


Also maybe worth tiny bet on Latin Charm later 8.30 H,


Buckland 2nd. Wonder what I have to do at the mo.

Still, more decent profits.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 09, 2014, 02:04:12 PM
Yes Emma you can ride my gal

lovely stuff


GTFO Emma!


FYP!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 02:05:08 PM
Massive plus 1.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 09, 2014, 02:26:52 PM
Wow, great pick with Buckland - thankyou


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 09, 2014, 02:28:09 PM
didnt realise yours was second was just watching the screen with no sound

sorry


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 09, 2014, 02:38:05 PM
Here's what I backed today - sorry in a rush - 3.05 prices were from last night - good luck all..

Energia Davos Haydock 14:20  16/1
Victoire De Lyphar Newmarket 15:05 20/1
Englishman Newmarket 15:05 9/2

Wanted to back Amralah 2.55 Haydock e/w as well but down to 7 now, may have a small win bet, seems overpriced to me and shouldn't run out of steam at the finish if good enough, don't get how keep reading that Vancouverite was unlucky last time out - we''ll see later I guess.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 09, 2014, 02:54:39 PM
didnt realise yours was second was just watching the screen with no sound

sorry

Guessed that you hadn't realised :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 02:56:14 PM
Here's what I backed today - sorry in a rush - 3.05 prices were from last night - good luck all..

Energia Davos Haydock 14:20  16/1
Victoire De Lyphar Newmarket 15:05 20/1
Englishman Newmarket 15:05 9/2

Wanted to back Amralah 2.55 Haydock e/w as well but down to 7 now, may have a small win bet, seems overpriced to me and shouldn't run out of steam at the finish if good enough, don't get how keep reading that Vancouverite was unlucky last time out - we''ll see later I guess.


Blimey, off again!!!!

Thankfully Linfoot tipped so already in the smaller stuff. WP Simon!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 09, 2014, 02:57:06 PM
Here's what I backed today - sorry in a rush - 3.05 prices were from last night - good luck all..

Energia Davos Haydock 14:20  16/1
Victoire De Lyphar Newmarket 15:05 20/1
Englishman Newmarket 15:05 9/2

Wanted to back Amralah 2.55 Haydock e/w as well but down to 7 now, may have a small win bet, seems overpriced to me and shouldn't run out of steam at the finish if good enough, don't get how keep reading that Vancouverite was unlucky last time out - we''ll see later I guess.

Just noticed this.  What a beast!

I had your first, too ( ;bigadz; ), as well as Chancery ( ;booder; )



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 09, 2014, 03:06:22 PM
yikes another one well done simon

Clay i hope u took the Emma Jayne hint what a great ride that was saved enough

( ;bigadz; ) backed her at 25's last night have laid off at evens on the machine now back level for the day after the hq bets from chompy

lovely


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Micko on August 09, 2014, 03:27:55 PM
Incredible tipping simon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 09, 2014, 03:40:53 PM
Raise your gaze is a speculative one for me in this.

I loathe the shergar cup, mind.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 09, 2014, 03:44:04 PM
Raise your gaze is a speculative one for me in this.

I loathe the shergar cup, mind.

Bleugh!

Still a daft meet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 09, 2014, 03:46:17 PM
Everything crossed for you Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 03:48:09 PM
Photo finish. No need to ask where mine finshed. lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on August 09, 2014, 03:58:41 PM
Adz is in incred form on the horses and I was giving him a few slaps on the back and he said I needed to look in and see what Simon had been doing.

Incredible scenes guys.Top notch stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 09, 2014, 03:58:58 PM
Have an interest on Calypso Beat in this one. Would have loved a tricast with Winters Moon and Muraqaaba. No fun with seven runners.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 09, 2014, 04:00:39 PM


Step aside pleno, we might just have a new Best In The Business".

Amazing stuff Simon. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 04:00:57 PM
Adz is in incred form on the horses and I was giving him a few slaps on the back and he said I needed to look in and see what Simon had been doing.

Incredible scenes guys.Top notch stuff.


Needless to say the stuff I send bobby bolts up, cant pick me nose on here!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 09, 2014, 04:02:14 PM
You have GOT to be kidding me!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 09, 2014, 04:22:07 PM
Another NR.

Tomorrow, I was looking to back Noverre to Go next time it ran at Brighton in the form its in. Tomorrow he does.

Bonus, I notice he won the same race last year over a pound higher mark.

At 6s I shall have 2pts ew


Noverre punted in as low as 7/2 this evening.

There is some 16-1 with VC for Fieldgunner Kirkup tomorrow. I think his time is near, but he has a terrible record at Muss, so min ew stakes, but can't see him being that


Hope those with keen eyes kept em open, as he just won.  ;) ;bigadz;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 09, 2014, 04:24:17 PM
Another NR.

Tomorrow, I was looking to back Noverre to Go next time it ran at Brighton in the form its in. Tomorrow he does.

Bonus, I notice he won the same race last year over a pound higher mark.

At 6s I shall have 2pts ew


Noverre punted in as low as 7/2 this evening.

There is some 16-1 with VC for Fieldgunner Kirkup tomorrow. I think his time is near, but he has a terrible record at Muss, so min ew stakes, but can't see him being that


Hope those with keen eyes kept em open, as he just won.  ;) ;bigadz;

Yeah, magic, thanks...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 09, 2014, 04:24:45 PM
Well done, Adz.

I like having a winning Saturday for a change :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 09, 2014, 04:32:23 PM
Well done, Adz.

I like having a winning Saturday for a change :)

Would have been nice, but unfortunately it appears Pompey are the ones with the lurgy...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 10, 2014, 10:02:41 AM
Haven't looked at race much at all but have had a tiny e/w interest in Able Mate 33/1 in the 2.00 Leics , Shamardal colt should like the ground (assuming it's not going to be good come this afternoon)
3.30 Leics    Piazon 13/2 and Foxy Clarets 20/1 - soft ground form


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 10, 2014, 10:41:23 AM
(All today's picks are pretty weak based on ground softening up - they come with a huge health warning, wouldn't be a shock if they all blanked)

Starwatch 8/1            Windsor 16:45
Myboyalfie 16/1          Windsor 16:45
Solo Hunter 25/1        Windsor 16:45
Mia San Triple 15/8    Windsor 15:45
Sarangoo 14/1           Windsor 15:45
Lady Of Illusion 66/1   Windsor 14:45
Bernisdale  11/4         Windsor 14:15


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on August 10, 2014, 11:23:14 AM
Thanks Adz....she's some rider and the jockey bet was so unlucky.

I didn't get on as proce had moved, Toby had a decent bet and obviously didn't hedge.

The two seconds were unlucky; we had an average start after backing Hassle as well - however as a bunch of childish poker players do we have the reins to Pez in race three who promptly picked Seemen, for no other reasons than childish gags with every bookie / female race goer / each other.  We then had a message for Highland Acclaim which helped. Most out in profit or no damage done and a great day.  Those wp seocnd a would have made it perfect but equally were good returns.

Thanks for taking time to post; really appreciate it!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 11:37:36 AM
NP Clay. Glad you had a good day!

Simon not left many races to look at, but managed to find one. ;)

In the third at Leicester, a horse that could be named after some of my Blonde friends, has been on my list waiting for some soft ground to come around.

I am hoping the monsoons we have seen in the Cotswolds shift 'cross country to Leicester, as I quite like the look of All Talk N No Do @3.00pm. EW @14s. GL ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 10, 2014, 11:53:46 AM
Ha ha… strongly fancy your quality to beat my quantity today. Good luck anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 01:08:28 PM
Sunday forum on atr was interesting today

Chapman told a good story about Emma when she was riding Dont Call me for Dandy. He was waiting for her in the saddling area with set instructions, before he could speak she told him she had seen all of the videos and told Dandy what she thought she should do.

not many jockeys over here that do that much research and it showed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 03:04:33 PM
(All today's picks are pretty weak based on ground softening up - they come with a huge health warning, wouldn't be a shock if they all blanked)

Starwatch 8/1            Windsor 16:45
Myboyalfie 16/1          Windsor 16:45
Solo Hunter 25/1        Windsor 16:45
Mia San Triple 15/8    Windsor 15:45
Sarangoo 14/1           Windsor 15:45
Lady Of Illusion 66/1   Windsor 14:45
Bernisdale  11/4         Windsor 14:15

I had Myboyalfie as the last leg of a 600/1 treble one Sunday last year... Horse was in front last 100 yards, and was headed on the line :(


Good luck today mate!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 03:29:20 PM
Starting to feel like the Jim Furyk of tipsters.

Always in the frame making plenty, but never quite winning!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 03:52:30 PM
:D

Unlucky mate...


After not backing all 3 horses that popped up in my nagme yesterday, I've backed the 2 that have popped up today

Basil Berry in the next at Leicester, which has gone close the last few times, and will handle the ground.

Arrowzone in the 1630 at Leicester, which will like the ground too.


Not great prices, but a double would be nice...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
:D

Unlucky mate...


After not backing all 3 horses that popped up in my nagme yesterday, I've backed the 2 that have popped up today

Basil Berry in the next at Leicester, which has gone close the last few times, and will handle the ground.

Arrowzone in the 1630 at Leicester, which will like the ground too.


Not great prices, but a double would be nice...


Light under a bushel mate.

Step aside old guard, new kids in town!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 04:10:27 PM
:D

Unlucky mate...


After not backing all 3 horses that popped up in my nagme yesterday, I've backed the 2 that have popped up today

Basil Berry in the next at Leicester, which has gone close the last few times, and will handle the ground.

Arrowzone in the 1630 at Leicester, which will like the ground too.


Not great prices, but a double would be nice...


Light under a bushel mate.

Step aside old guard, new kids in town!!!

Fingers crossed Arrowzone recreates it's run from the race when I gave it to you last time!

Wish I'd just dived in yesterday, instead of passing over Token of Love, because it had 20lbs to find with Lightning Thunder, and Don't Call Me, because I thought Magic City was a good thing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 04:17:32 PM
I best not mention my text to bobby when Token was 10-1 then.......... ;whistle;


Good luck with that double bud!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 04:23:03 PM
I best not mention my text to bobby when Token was 10-1 then.......... ;whistle;


Good luck with that double bud!

Would have been best, but I expect no less, thanks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 04:55:54 PM
:D

Unlucky mate...


After not backing all 3 horses that popped up in my nagme yesterday, I've backed the 2 that have popped up today

Basil Berry in the next at Leicester, which has gone close the last few times, and will handle the ground.

Arrowzone in the 1630 at Leicester, which will like the ground too.


Not great prices, but a double would be nice...


Light under a bushel mate.

Step aside old guard, new kids in town!!!



BOOOOOOOM. Good work young Padawan!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on August 10, 2014, 04:57:13 PM
Fully expected Run Fat Lass Run to chin you there for irony banter ha ha

Great picks marky - Ty I was in double with my nap in race before at Windsor so owe you a beer


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 05:34:21 PM
superb stuff Marky


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 05:43:18 PM
Cheers lads, nice to soften the pain of yesterdays nagme debacle...

LOL @ Shaun, that would have been irony at it's best!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 10, 2014, 05:50:01 PM

Are you boys ALL getting the lot?

Incred stuff, well done all.

Them poor bookies, I feel bad for them. When Marky is winning, things are really bad.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 06:40:22 PM
Dont get many better articles than this

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/aug/10/fergal-lynch-british-horseracing-authority-rides-ayr?commentpage=1

And i agree with every word


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 10, 2014, 07:00:42 PM
Dont get many better articles than this

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/aug/10/fergal-lynch-british-horseracing-authority-rides-ayr?commentpage=1

And i agree with every word

It may well be a spot on article but if we had to rid the game of everyone that was cheating or taking the punters for mugs there would be very few left. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 07:03:08 PM
Dont get many better articles than this

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/aug/10/fergal-lynch-british-horseracing-authority-rides-ayr?commentpage=1

And i agree with every word

It may well be a spot on article but if we had to rid the game of everyone that was cheating or taking the punters for mugs there would be very few left. 

There are elements of cheating everyday (handicapping, running on ground trainer is aware horse will hate, running horses 85% fit e.t.c)

Then there is Lynch who admitted on record he stopped the horse after lying on oath at the original trial saying he had no idea about Miles Rodgers.

Welcome back Burgle


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 10, 2014, 07:04:28 PM
Dont get many better articles than this

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/aug/10/fergal-lynch-british-horseracing-authority-rides-ayr?commentpage=1

And i agree with every word

Would you consider what he did to be worse than someone who overused the whip?

No one who bets big on horse racing should think every horse is running at its peak fitness, ridden by a jockey trying his or her best and is flat out for the win. Same for greyhounds. The exception is the main runners in the biggest races, where we can choose our bet and cheer it home.

Simply put, as I was taught when I was first introduced to racing, it's all in the price.

Then we watch someone beating a horse that can't win within an inch of its life into fifth and the jockey gets a few days off to have a think about his behaviour. He's then welcomed back to work.

Just playing diablo avocado.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 07:08:31 PM
Dont get many better articles than this

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/aug/10/fergal-lynch-british-horseracing-authority-rides-ayr?commentpage=1

And i agree with every word

Would you consider what he did to be worse than someone who overused the whip?

No one who bets big on horse racing should think every horse is running at its peak fitness, ridden by a jockey trying his or her best and is flat out for the win. Same for greyhounds. The exception is the main runners in the biggest races, where we can choose our bet and cheer it home.

Simply put, as I was taught when I was first introduced to racing, it's all in the price.

Then we watch someone beating a horse that can't win within an inch of its life into fifth and the jockey gets a few days off to have a think about his behaviour. He's then welcomed back to work.

Just playing diablo avocado.

Examples of horses "beaten to within an inch of its life into fifth" in day to day racing in the last say five years? I cant think of many/any.

Of course it is worse, drifters do win (only have to look at some of Simons picks last week many have drifted in price and won) and they have drifted late due to ground seemingly being wrong/trainer form supposed draw biases e.t.c



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 10, 2014, 07:12:27 PM

diablo avocado

Excellent.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 07:14:09 PM
Dont get many better articles than this

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/aug/10/fergal-lynch-british-horseracing-authority-rides-ayr?commentpage=1

And i agree with every word

Would you consider what he did to be worse than someone who overused the whip?

No one who bets big on horse racing should think every horse is running at its peak fitness, ridden by a jockey trying his or her best and is flat out for the win. Same for greyhounds. The exception is the main runners in the biggest races, where we can choose our bet and cheer it home.

Simply put, as I was taught when I was first introduced to racing, it's all in the price.

Then we watch someone beating a horse that can't win within an inch of its life into fifth and the jockey gets a few days off to have a think about his behaviour. He's then welcomed back to work.

Just playing diablo avocado.


You're just playing a dodgy fruit.........hmmm, makes sense. :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 07:15:22 PM

diablo avocado

Excellent.

I had no idea what that meant


so ignored it :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 10, 2014, 07:24:55 PM

diablo avocado

Excellent.

I had no idea what that meant


so ignored it :)

Nor me John. I even googled it, & it came up as some sort of posh dinner.

I just pretend to understand, & say "wp" or whatever. It's best, trust me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 10, 2014, 08:36:47 PM
Dont get many better articles than this

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2014/aug/10/fergal-lynch-british-horseracing-authority-rides-ayr?commentpage=1

And i agree with every word

Would you consider what he did to be worse than someone who overused the whip?

No one who bets big on horse racing should think every horse is running at its peak fitness, ridden by a jockey trying his or her best and is flat out for the win. Same for greyhounds. The exception is the main runners in the biggest races, where we can choose our bet and cheer it home.

Simply put, as I was taught when I was first introduced to racing, it's all in the price.

Then we watch someone beating a horse that can't win within an inch of its life into fifth and the jockey gets a few days off to have a think about his behaviour. He's then welcomed back to work.

Just playing diablo avocado.

Examples of horses "beaten to within an inch of its life into fifth" in day to day racing in the last say five years? I cant think of many/any.

Of course it is worse, drifters do win (only have to look at some of Simons picks last week many have drifted in price and won) and they have drifted late due to ground seemingly being wrong/trainer form supposed draw biases e.t.c



I suppose I'm making two points, really:

Firstly, to vilify one jockey for something that is far from unheard of in the sport (even though this was certainly an extreme example) is a bit hypocritical. Not you personally, but the sport as a whole.

Secondly, pretty much every tip posted ITT is made with the awareness that the horse might have been on a lower intensity training programme that week, that it could have been overfed this morning, that the jockey might have been given a nudge by the owner because they want 3lb off for the big race in a month's time or whatever. So, is there an argument that the people who were betting for the horse to win took that risk? Compare that to the overuse of the whip cases, where there is a clear victim on the screen in front of you.

It's good that sport as a whole is making better noises about making it an honest fight. Boxing, Athletics, Cycling, Snooker, Rugby, Football, Baseball and even online poker have had their moments in recent years. The hysteria from within is just something I find difficult to stomach.

Just playing devil's advocate, really.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 08:43:53 PM
Not really hysteria though is it?

A man cheated, was paid to cheat, was banned but still made nearly 3 million us dollars riding in Philadelphia (for his brother) and nearly half that again in Bahrain and then Ireland.

A lot of comments elsewhere saying he has "served his time" he has done nothing of the sort.

Personally i feel uncomfortable that a man who lied under oath is back riding tomorrow, a lot more than a trainer who has a horse half fit on a third run for a handicap


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 10, 2014, 08:56:03 PM
Not really hysteria though is it?

A man cheated, was paid to cheat, was banned but still made nearly 3 million us dollars riding in Philadelphia (for his brother) and nearly half that again in Bahrain and then Ireland.

A lot of comments elsewhere saying he has "served his time" he has done nothing of the sort.

Personally i feel uncomfortable that a man who lied under oath is back riding tomorrow, a lot more than a trainer who has a horse half fit on a third run for a handicap

Fair enough. I think there are different, equally valid opinions on this issue and that's all I was trying to put across.

Not going to fall out over it :) Let me just give you my final words on the matter, though:

As a young boy, I was told all sorts of stories about owners and trainers cheating the system. Dogs and horses. One lesson ended with the line that stayed with me:

"...and if you ever want a reason not to lose everything you have through betting on racing, there it is
"


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 10, 2014, 09:00:11 PM

Two cricketers were jailed for the same "offence".  He should have been prosecuted and jailed.  He should have been banned from riding for 50 years.  He's a cu*t.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 10, 2014, 09:02:07 PM


And breathe.

Anyone got any thoughts on the new Tapeta track at wolves?  Does it suit US breds like polytrack?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 09:03:28 PM
In many respects the fact he owned up/stupid enough to get caught makes him somewhat better than the many others that do it, without us "knowing".

As stated earlier in the week, I watched the offending race, and if the same diligence was applied to many other rides on a daily basis, and jockeys put under some severe questioning about how hard they were trying, I suspect we wouldn't have that many jockeys left at the end of one week.

A shot across the bows was made and it didn't really make much difference in my humble.

I saw an interview with Ed Quigley in the week and agree that you can only win as a punter in this game, once you have served your dues, and start to understand how certain trainers "behave", and when their horses are likely to be trying, much of it just isn't in the form book. To do this requires the co-operation of the jockeys.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 09:06:33 PM

Are you boys ALL getting the lot?

Incred stuff, well done all.

Them poor bookies, I feel bad for them. When Marky is winning, things are really bad.


Broken clocks etc.  ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 09:08:36 PM
Of course it happens a lot but unless you are the jockey involved you never know for sure whether it was stopped or something else happened. The fact he admitted it was key and its not a big stretch of anyone who watched a lot of racing in the period that it was his only race he played in. There are particularly tragic races involving Lynch, Eddie Ahern (now banned) and Mckeown (now banned) around Wolverhampton at this period.

Talking of Wolver....


Working on a big angle for tomorrow waiting for prices then will post when on...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 09:20:02 PM


And breathe.

Anyone got any thoughts on the new Tapeta track at wolves?  Does it suit US breds like polytrack?


Exciting new innovation.

Won't be having a bet until its clear there are no oddities etc. ie, only suits frontrunners/holdup/fast ground/soft ground horses etc


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 10, 2014, 09:27:21 PM


And breathe.

Anyone got any thoughts on the new Tapeta track at wolves?  Does it suit US breds like polytrack?

Not so much so far...

However Dickinson has stated this is a new "grade" of Tapeta that has been laid at Wolver so existing patterns "could" be misleading. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 09:54:45 PM
Must have too many horses in my tracker, and should really clear it out...


15:15 Wol - Free Entry

Looking likely to be fave when they open, and obviously the new surface too, so will probably just chuck it in a tiny treble with the other 2.



16:00 Ayr - Karaka Jack

Had this one in my tracker for a while, but only started backing it again the last few times, and think Adz thought its time was near LTO.



16:30 Ayr - Tadalavil

Backed it a couple times when Adz put it up, including once at a nice price last year. Just looking through, I see it won at a big price last month, just after I got back from Vegas, and wasn't bothering to check my emails from ATR.

Looks like it's still in good form, and gets on well with the jockey, who claims 5.


Feedback from the wiser souls most welcome.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2014, 10:36:48 PM
Karaka Jack will be interesting with Graham Lee up

Tadalavil been running consistently for a few races now, which is most unusual. Still well weighted on old form. Annoyingly Klynch is in the race, who I said to follow after the race at Carlisle last week. I shall split any bet here.

I put up Black Douglas last week, and although I thought that race was ideal, the opposition here looks equally poor and at 12-1 I shall go 1pt ew in the 5.00 at Ayr. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 10, 2014, 11:20:28 PM
Douglas completes the Vegas chaser ;D

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 10, 2014, 11:21:16 PM
Quite a lot of rain on the West Coast today and its pelting down just now, just spoken to a friend who has driven up from Stranraer and said it was pelting down all the way up the road so would expect it to be very soft at Ayr romorrow.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 11, 2014, 01:43:06 AM
Quite a lot of rain on the West Coast today and its pelting down just now, just spoken to a friend who has driven up from Stranraer and said it was pelting down all the way up the road so would expect it to be very soft at Ayr romorrow.


Nice one, Mac.

The 2 I chucked up are pretty versatile, so hopefully it will affect others more than them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 02:32:49 PM
Really wanted to buy the distances at Wolver today, no spread accounts useable and cant find any fixed odds firms quotes

So have had a smaller bet on over 16.5 lengths at nearly 2/1 on betfair

Plenty of evidence out there that Tapeta means bigger winning distances lets hope that stays the way with this different grade.







Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 02:42:12 PM
pleasing start


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 02:47:25 PM
Really wanted to buy the distances at Wolver today, no spread accounts useable and cant find any fixed odds firms quotes

So have had a smaller bet on over 16.5 lengths at nearly 2/1 on betfair

Plenty of evidence out there that Tapeta means bigger winning distances lets hope that stays the way with this different grade.









Why would that be then John? Is there worse kickback? Cant see any other reason why that would be the case otherwise.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 02:56:03 PM
Really wanted to buy the distances at Wolver today, no spread accounts useable and cant find any fixed odds firms quotes

So have had a smaller bet on over 16.5 lengths at nearly 2/1 on betfair

Plenty of evidence out there that Tapeta means bigger winning distances lets hope that stays the way with this different grade.









Why would that be then John? Is there worse kickback? Cant see any other reason why that would be the case otherwise.

No there is generally less kickback if anything. Neither can i but two excellent writers on American racing have garnered the same opinion, their view seems to be that the times are very similar to Polytrack but the finishing distances are much more spread.

Personally if this an edge i will be looking to exploit it now before others realise it, if its a red herring then i do a few quid. There is also some evidence that the bigger field spread is more apparent early whilst the track is bedded in.

It should be noted that Tapeta can be "formed" to ride faster or slower much easier than Polytrack so it will be interesting to see if he has been round after the first with his tractor.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 03:14:06 PM
LOL, no 3lb penalties at Wolves!

Should land your bet no problem today mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 03:15:42 PM
Yes the two main hopes but 10 lengths already is a good start...

Just means i have to listen to Simon "all weather expert" Mupletoft all afternoon. Interviews the jockey after the first having won 6 lengths "What did you think of the surface?"

No shit Simon he liked it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 11, 2014, 03:24:05 PM

16:00 Ayr - Karaka Jack

Had this one in my tracker for a while, but only started backing it again the last few times, and think Adz thought its time was near LTO.

Feedback from the wiser souls most welcome.

Definitely not laying claim to the wiser soul bit, but Dark Crystal is starting to look a massive price @ 25-1 for a C@D winner that goes on the ground, been on the drift all day - does this just mean others who are better informed know its not her day today?

Although I thought it quite marginal I bet  Blue Sonic @ 9/2 in the 3.15 - which I now notice has also started to drift lol..   SORRY 3.30 AYR


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 11, 2014, 03:39:38 PM
Yes the two main hopes but 10 lengths already is a good start...

Just means i have to listen to Simon "all weather expert" Mupletoft all afternoon. Interviews the jockey after the first having won 6 lengths "What did you think of the surface?"

No shit Simon he liked it

I imagined you shouting at the screen as the last one coasted home 'keep riding'

:D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 11, 2014, 03:49:41 PM
Must have too many horses in my tracker, and should really clear it out...


15:15 Wol - Free Entry

Looking likely to be fave when they open, and obviously the new surface too, so will probably just chuck it in a tiny treble with the other 2.


Looks like it's going to be one of those, who struggles to get its nose in front.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 03:54:46 PM
You can almost hear Gordie tutting as his acknowledges the money for the Fergal horse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 11, 2014, 03:58:57 PM

Although I thought it quite marginal I bet  Blue Sonic @ 9/2 in the 3.15 - which I now notice has also started to drift lol..   SORRY 3.30 AYR

Wow, some drift, as soon as my money went on it shot out to 8-1 and finished last


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 11, 2014, 04:05:24 PM
You can almost hear Gordie tutting as his acknowledges the money for the Fergal horse.

LOL!

Saw that go 10/1 - 7/2 in about 5 minutes :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 11, 2014, 04:05:59 PM
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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 11, 2014, 04:10:59 PM
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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 04:17:40 PM
That's cheating!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 04:26:29 PM
LOL, talking of which if I had to say which was the dirty ride Graham Lee then or Fergal Lynch on his banned ride, I bet Lee has pushed his way to the bar more vigorously.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 11, 2014, 04:30:13 PM
Started moving once we'd run out of track...

What's Chompy up to?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 04:46:56 PM
Havent seen race but K Jack not great on ground with any soft in it generally?

18 lengths at Wolver with 2 heats left

Oh for a spread account


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 04:51:31 PM
I think you have to watch the race. He acted perfectly well on soft running on well when the race was won.

Be interesting to see how hards Mr Lee rides them out next couple!

Chompy suggested we back front runners at Wolves seconds before a hold up horse won.

Seemed the sort of thing we could all have a good chuckle about, but I think he has a reputation to maintain ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 11, 2014, 04:54:22 PM
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:)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 04:56:57 PM
OiOiOiOi


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 11, 2014, 04:57:36 PM
Boom. how easy was that.  WD lads. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 11, 2014, 05:00:20 PM
You da man Adz, gets me out of trouble every time - thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 05:02:00 PM
Christ routes em

nice one


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 11, 2014, 05:02:24 PM
I think you have to watch the race. He acted perfectly well on soft running on well when the race was won.

Be interesting to see how hards Mr Lee rides them out next couple!

Chompy suggested we back front runners at Wolves seconds before a hold up horse won.

Seemed the sort of thing we could all have a good chuckle about, but I think he has a reputation to maintain ;)

Yeah, horse looked to handle it fine, and has won on GtS before.

LOL - deleteaments

Nice one mate, and a shame Taladavil was running in the same race....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 05:04:59 PM
Just watched it yep not the best ride but maybe bit to consistent for own good been a long time since won now

Will probably drop in at one point no doubt


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 05:08:19 PM
Times are slow at Wolver

Hopefully this will be worth following at least until it beds in


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 05:21:55 PM
Black Doug into 7s

Lets hope Mr Lee doesn't do him on the stablemate!

I keep watching KJ, I reckon they may have the final of the series lined up for him. Time will tell.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 05:25:44 PM
Fuck me. No wonder Gary Bartley is still a claimer after 100 years..

Get position a against the rail and then moves to the slower part of the course. What a ****. ;grr;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 11, 2014, 05:28:46 PM
Now that was a poor effort, great run over the wrong side


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2014, 09:46:56 PM
Off for a few pool days before the big York meet(got to spend it sometime ;)), but hopefully sign off with a decent price winner.

Set the Trend has slowly been running himself back into form and ran a nice race at the weekend following some efforts of travelling well to a point in some previous runs.

Rated almost 20LB lower than his highest winning mark, this looks a reasonable chance to get back on track. A quick reappearance adds to the optimism, as does the fact he was backed last time.

1pt ew @ 11-1(or 12s if anyone on Blonde has a Boils account left) 4.05 Ffos Las

Long time readers will also notice a horse we had a tickle on a year or so ago, Vainglory, is in the race too. Similarly rated well below his last winning rating he has Fallon up for the first time, which seems odd. Not sure F Las strikes me as his sort of course, but will probably look to cover my stake. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 12, 2014, 02:17:44 AM
Looking for a home for a £20 free bet, thinking of doing Shaneshill in the Novice at Cheltenham, any thoughts by anyone. 8-1. Can't find a betfair market.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 12, 2014, 03:22:55 AM
Looking for a home for a £20 free bet, thinking of doing Shaneshill in the Novice at Cheltenham, any thoughts by anyone. 8-1. Can't find a betfair market.

I'm sure there are a few decent races between now and March that you could punt on ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on August 12, 2014, 01:05:07 PM
Could someone tell me the price of dominate on ladbrokes when it was withdrawn please from the 6:35 at lingfield? Would like to know the rule 4 deduction, but cannot get that odds checker graph up on my phone.  Thanks!

Bye whilst I'm posting, congrats on the form you guys who tip in this thread are currently in!! Haven't followed many due to bad timing which has been unfortunate, but loving the revival of this thread since adz has been back .


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 12, 2014, 01:59:01 PM
Could someone tell me the price of dominate on ladbrokes when it was withdrawn please from the 6:35 at lingfield? Would like to know the rule 4 deduction, but cannot get that odds checker graph up on my phone.  Thanks!

Bye whilst I'm posting, congrats on the form you guys who tip in this thread are currently in!! Haven't followed many due to bad timing which has been unfortunate, but loving the revival of this thread since adz has been back .

It was 13/2, Ali.

Been good to see it so lively, even though I missed Simon smashing it to bits that day, too :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 12, 2014, 02:01:04 PM
Trading the bet everyday offer ?  shows as 13/2 on my oddschecker , seems hard for it not to be a 10p ded'n ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 12, 2014, 02:12:30 PM
What we liking today chaps?  I'm dying to be against the fav in the opener at Carlisle but not too keen on the 2nd best. 

My short list includes the 3rd/4th/5th best in market but was looking for a reason to back the Easterby horse. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 12, 2014, 02:31:42 PM
I really struggled to find anything to back today - I had a look at the 4.05 Ffos Las where Adz put up Set The Trend and had a token bet on Unison as well

Also looked at 2.45 Carlisle for B365 4/1 offer and had considered Mission Impossible and Bond Club and see the latter being backed (now the price has gone probs won't bother)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 12, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
What we liking today chaps?  I'm dying to be against the fav in the opener at Carlisle but not too keen on the 2nd best. 

My short list includes the 3rd/4th/5th best in market but was looking for a reason to back the Easterby horse. 

Pretty impressive how I swerved the winner, should have place laid the fav/2nd fav


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on August 12, 2014, 02:56:01 PM
Cheers guys, I bet als memory at 13/2 last night so just wanted to know what I was looking at what odds I was on now with the deduction. 10p still means I'm beating the current price.  Think arctic lynx is a danger but money has come for him too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 12, 2014, 03:03:41 PM
no bets here

this is another good blog

http://mrbasquill.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/integrity-is-everything-and-still-bha.html


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 12, 2014, 03:35:04 PM
They're not letting them all back into the game, says on SL that Ferris has been told to jog.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 12, 2014, 04:52:26 PM
I really struggled to find anything to back today - I had a look at the 4.05 Ffos Las where Adz put up Set The Trend and had a token bet on Unison as well
My saver won, Set The Trend placed @ 20/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 12, 2014, 07:36:07 PM
Bonsoir Mes Amis

Looks like another profitable day.

I missed Simon trumping my 20-1 placer with the 5-1 winner, as I was travelling, but pretty sure that race must have been very profitable for all concerned.

Keep it up guys.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 12, 2014, 07:40:22 PM
Bggest bet of the day was on Zipp in that last race at Nottingham.  Traded at 1.01 in running.  #skint


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 13, 2014, 10:07:07 AM
3.35 Bev   I really quite like Economic Crisis @ 12/1. On a winning mark, will like ground, not beaten far on Good ground on recent run. Mulrennan flying at the moment, yard not so much. Have also had a smaller bet on Cadeaux Pearl & 6-1.  
Welcome feedback as always.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 13, 2014, 10:21:06 AM
3.35 Bev   I really quite like Economic Crisis @ 12/1. On a winning mark, will like ground, not beaten far on Good ground on recent run. Mulrennan flying at the moment, yard not so much. Have also had a smaller bet on Cadeaux Pearl & 6-1.  
Welcome feedback as always.

Only problem i see here is the first two in the betting have trap 1 and 3

Along with the 5 furlongs at Chester, the 5 furlongs at Beverley is probably the biggest and best known draw bias in the country. Quite simply *low drawn runners at Beverley over 5 furlongs have a massive advantage. The only problem with this is that everybody knows it, and therefore this fact will already be built into the price of a specific horse and so its very hard for knowledge of this particular draw bias to make you any money. The bias is not just due to being drawn on the inside of a tight turn, but also the nature of the 5 furlong course at Beverley means that due to the undulations of the course, the wider drawn runners are actually starting lower down the hill than the inside runners. Which is obviously a disadvantage.

Saying that, if its good enough it will win

Good luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 13, 2014, 10:49:18 AM
Thanks very much, didn't know the draw bias was so pronounced - Oddschecker not very helpful there. Did read this, maybe he's just a born optimist lol (talking about Mey Blossom in same race):

"Simon Whitaker, the Scarcroft trainer's son and assistant, said

"She's in at Beverley on Thursday, too, so we'll look at the track and make a decision tomorrow."

Although the home-bred daughter of Captain Rio has seemingly been impinged by an outside draw in stall nine, Whitaker Jnr is not convinced that is as big an issue as it once was at Beverley.

He said: "With this false rail they've got at Beverley this season, they've been ducking across to the other side, so maybe it might not be a bad thing to be in stall nine."




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 13, 2014, 11:03:21 AM
By the by, seems a huge disparity to me in the prices of Mey Blossom who's done all her winning on good or better and Economic crisis. I'ld feel a lot happier with EC at the prices.
Have also read though that they've used an aerator on the course to help it drain, so a few showers wouldn't hurt - would hate it to dry out much more


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 13, 2014, 11:26:02 AM

14/1 in three places 15s on the machine

Money coming for Ambitious icarus


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 13, 2014, 11:36:03 AM
I discarded this one for being a bit awkward coming out of stalls a couple of times (cue it pinging and bolting up)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 13, 2014, 12:40:38 PM
5.20 Newton Abbot  Fav's form over distance doesn't look very inspiring and pretty short at 5/2 in reasonable e/w race. I had a small e/w bet on Bathwick Man @ 14/1 should be ok on ground and trip, has gone well at course in past and would have needed the last run after a break.

2.50 Salisbury Likewise thought Darshini is pretty short considering he hasn't beaten much so far, thought I'ld take When Will It End 6-1 and Grigolo 7-1 against him , both of whom have proven form in much better races


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 13, 2014, 01:03:50 PM
Ecconomic Crisis is better in the mud, never got home over 6f at Hamilton recently. 

re the draw is this a recent bias?  Didn't all tracks change the way the draw was done, sure I read that somewhere a while back. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 13, 2014, 01:57:49 PM
Ecconomic Crisis is better in the mud, never got home over 6f at Hamilton recently. 

re the draw is this a recent bias?  Didn't all tracks change the way the draw was done, sure I read that somewhere a while back. 

The 5f trip at Beverley has long been regarded as arguably the strongest draw bias C&D in the country. High draws have enjoyed a significant advantage for many years. If we look at the result of 10 runner or more handicaps since 2005 we get the following draw split:

Top "third" of the draw: 51.7% (wins), 47.7% (placed)
Middle "third" of the draw: 34.5% (wins), 35.1% (placed)
Bottom "third" of the draw: 13.8% (wins), 17.2% (placed)

Hence the top third of the draw have been roughly four times more likely to win than the bottom third of the draw.

These figs have to be reversed since the numberings for right hand tracks have been switched from March 31st 2011

Hope that helps


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 13, 2014, 02:08:50 PM
Stilla Afton  9/1    Salisbury 16:30            Small e/w bet, would have to improve significantly for step up in trip, but not impossible on breeding, some support in market
Rogue Wave 50/1 Salisbury 15:25            What can I say?, love a 50-1 shot, getting a tiny bit of value on the place part versus betfair prices, even in a "bad" e/w race?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rubbish2407 on August 13, 2014, 03:22:26 PM
5.20 Newton Abbot  Fav's form over distance doesn't look very inspiring and pretty short at 5/2 in reasonable e/w race. I had a small e/w bet on Bathwick Man @ 14/1 should be ok on ground and trip, has gone well at course in past and would have needed the last run after a break.

2.50 Salisbury Likewise thought Darshini is pretty short considering he hasn't beaten much so far, thought I'ld take When Will It End 6-1 and Grigolo 7-1 against him , both of whom have proven form in much better races


I layed the Fav thanks to this, great 1-2. Man on fire!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on August 13, 2014, 03:27:04 PM
WHEN WILL IT END?!?!

and when will i be on one! :P


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 13, 2014, 03:30:01 PM
Cheers Trev, took onboard what you said about the low draw and dug myself out a whole there by getting on that winner at 6's. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 13, 2014, 03:35:15 PM
Cheers Trev, took onboard what you said about the low draw and dug myself out a whole there by getting on that winner at 6's. 

Sweet

wdwdwd


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 13, 2014, 04:47:48 PM
Ecconomic Crisis is better in the mud, never got home over 6f at Hamilton recently.  

re the draw is this a recent bias?  Didn't all tracks change the way the draw was done, sure I read that somewhere a while back.  

The 5f trip at Beverley has long been regarded as arguably the strongest draw bias C&D in the country. High draws have enjoyed a significant advantage for many years. If we look at the result of 10 runner or more handicaps since 2005 we get the following draw split:

Top "third" of the draw: 51.7% (wins), 47.7% (placed)
Middle "third" of the draw: 34.5% (wins), 35.1% (placed)
Bottom "third" of the draw: 13.8% (wins), 17.2% (placed)

Hence the top third of the draw have been roughly four times more likely to win than the bottom third of the draw.

These figs have to be reversed since the numberings for right hand tracks have been switched from March 31st 2011

Hope that helps

The result doesn't lie, finishing order stall 1,2,7   Expensive 4th for Economic Crisis - thought I was nailed on for place money. I can see that she was forced to use a lot of energy from the off to get to a decent position. Hopefully I'll get my money back another day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 13, 2014, 04:49:31 PM
Rogue Wave 50/1 Salisbury 15:25            What can I say?, love a 50-1 shot, getting a tiny bit of value on the place part versus betfair prices, even in a "bad" e/w race?

Finished 7th, went off 25-1 and had fair bit of trouble in running - don't know if it really cost a place though


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 13, 2014, 04:52:59 PM
Ecconomic Crisis is better in the mud, never got home over 6f at Hamilton recently. 

re the draw is this a recent bias?  Didn't all tracks change the way the draw was done, sure I read that somewhere a while back. 

The 5f trip at Beverley has long been regarded as arguably the strongest draw bias C&D in the country. High draws have enjoyed a significant advantage for many years. If we look at the result of 10 runner or more handicaps since 2005 we get the following draw split:

Top "third" of the draw: 51.7% (wins), 47.7% (placed)
Middle "third" of the draw: 34.5% (wins), 35.1% (placed)
Bottom "third" of the draw: 13.8% (wins), 17.2% (placed)

Hence the top third of the draw have been roughly four times more likely to win than the bottom third of the draw.

These figs have to be reversed since the numberings for right hand tracks have been switched from March 31st 2011

Hope that helps

The result doesn't lie, finished order stall 1,2,7   Expensive 4th for Economic Crisis - thought I was nailed on for place money. I can see that she was forced to use a lot of energy from the off to get to a decent position. Hopefully I'll get my money back another day.

Yeah the other 5 furlong race finished stall 4,1,9  with stall 2 a N/R

Economic seemed to go slightly left on the break which would not help


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 13, 2014, 05:02:43 PM
Stilla Afton  9/1    Salisbury 16:30            Small e/w bet, would have to improve significantly for step up in trip, but not impossible on breeding, some support in market

Pretty weak rationale for a bet and correspondingly poor result - at least I kept the stakes small


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 13, 2014, 05:53:08 PM
Very unlucky Simon.  Nealry the world.   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 13, 2014, 06:40:59 PM
Thanks just seen result, Bugger, official - as Tikay would say.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 14, 2014, 10:49:24 AM
Thought it worth pointing out that I'm just posting these to keep track of my thought processes, hopefully get some feedback and monitor how they pan out. If I learn something along the way and it makes me a bit more disciplined, that's all to the good.

4.45 Beverley  Think the form of Grand Proposal's third to Grigolo who won again yesterday, reads pretty well in the context of this race. I've had a decent bet at 9/2 and hope to lay some off later in the day if the price shortens.(currently beats Betfair in thin market) Also had a saver on Abbey Angel as she has the better draw.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 14, 2014, 12:48:25 PM
4.00 Salisbury   Master Carpenter 10/1 small e/w bet.  Consistent, decent level of form and bonus of being versatile ground-wise in case we get heavy rain


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 14, 2014, 03:12:13 PM
I backed Grand Proposal last night, too. Optimistic after Grigolo winning under again, under a penalty.

Had Anjaal in my tracker after the Lennox Stakes last month, which was a group 2, and he was a close 3rd to Es Que Love.

Will have to chuck a saver on the Carpenter too now.

Chucked them both in a trixie with Spiritual Star, who is running in the 315 @ Newmarket.

Looks like they have cut one of its legs off this morning though, if you go by Oddschecker :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 14, 2014, 05:05:32 PM
So much for laying some off on Grand Proposal - massive drifter, not happy

at least the saver bet did it's job


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 14, 2014, 05:31:37 PM
The writing was on the wall for us early doors...
.
I didn't see Anjaal's race, but the Spiritual Star ran  a strange race, and I only caught the end of Grand Proposal's race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 15, 2014, 09:55:22 AM
6.00 Newmarket   Regal Parade   would have been much happier with the 12-1 available last night and just missed the 7-1 today, still felt he's worth a small win bet at 6-1 , with doubts in my mind about so many of the others in this race. Should be happy on the ground, proven form at much higher level and should be happily staying on at the finish if in the mood. Just a shame this feels quite marginal at 6-1.

7.00 Nmkt  Tullia 9/2  Mainly decent form this year and with few others likely to relish the conditions, this looked an easy bet. Hot Mustard looks a very vulnerable fav to me at 11/4


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 15, 2014, 09:55:50 AM
Like INGENTI at 16's 7.45 Catterick tonight

14 runner heat so just a small win bet but has the track, class, going and handicap mark (almost to win)

Lots of pace on here and a good draw in Class 6 handicaps on turf recent record reads 1524125. Last run at Hamilton is why such a big price but for some reason was restrained at the start so easily forgiven. Kevin Stott is on but thats fine as he usual is and has won/ran well for him before.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 15, 2014, 11:22:34 AM
7.35 Nmkt    Probably not a good sign when you don't even want to own up to the bet, but 888 were best priced 11-1 and I didn't have an account there and it's bet £10 get a free £10 bet. Robin Hood has dropped an awful long way down the weights and his better (which isn't saying much) runs have been on ground with a bit of cut.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 15, 2014, 12:08:03 PM
2.30 Newcastle Escape To Glory 9/1 generally or 8/1 PaddyPower with money back 2nd or 3rd.  Cara's Request 14/1 have to forgive last poor run but like the Chester form with My Single Malt and should be fine on Gd to soft, high draw helpful.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 15, 2014, 02:29:05 PM
2.30 Newcastle Escape To Glory 9/1 generally or 8/1 PaddyPower with money back 2nd or 3rd.  Cara's Request 14/1 have to forgive last poor run but like the Chester form with My Single Malt and should be fine on Gd to soft, high draw helpful.

Belated doubts about Cara's Request making all on this track, so have added Talent Scout 8-1 PP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 16, 2014, 03:10:29 PM
suzi's connoisseur


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 16, 2014, 03:37:55 PM
Never seen a horse cause so much chaos in a race :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 16, 2014, 06:50:58 PM
thrown a couple of quid at Trust Me Boy 6.35 Ling 50/1 e/w, not a terrible run last time out over C&D and draw should help - don't look at form figures!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 16, 2014, 06:58:20 PM
thrown a couple of quid at Trust Me Boy 6.35 Ling 50/1 e/w, not a terrible run last time out over C&D and draw should help - don't look at form figures!

I'll chuck my bluey on, good luck mate!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 16, 2014, 08:04:37 PM
Time to chase my losses and test a theory at the same time. Hate opposing Bennelong who won at a nice price last time out, but I'm hoping a low draw will help Lily Edge get a position on the rail which seems to help her chances over this C&D. Has been running decently in defeat recently and will be interested to see if this does make any difference


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 16, 2014, 08:10:01 PM
Reckon I'll chase mine with a Ross Pearson/Kell Brook double.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 16, 2014, 08:36:34 PM
Don't know if it was down to the draw, but she just about got her head in front.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 16, 2014, 08:38:43 PM
Don't know if it was down to the draw, but she just about got her head in front.

Definitely wasn't the rail... Nice one, Simon.

My timing is impeccable as ever, where you're concerned :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 16, 2014, 10:29:43 PM
Looking at Pontefract 2.45 tomorrow thought Aramist looked a big price @ 12-1. Have to discount a poor run last time at Chester, but would have thought he has a decent chance if back to anything like his best and seems like any overnight rain wouldn't hurt his chances. small win bet?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 17, 2014, 06:45:18 AM
Decided to back Spinatrix 3.45 Pontefract @ 5-1 win only , very impressed by her run yesterday, as I was working on the assumption that the low drawn horses had a significant advantage. Must come with risks attached, but has run well on consecutive days in the past and assume she won't run if showing any ill effects from her efforts yesterday.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 17, 2014, 09:26:17 AM
3.15 Pontefract    Backed Jawaab 13/2, C&D winner, in good form hurdling, certain to get trip. Hoping will try and make all. Can't understand why fav Air Squadron is so short, untried at distance and on breeding appears far from certain to want this far - anyway I've laid it to get my stake back.

Anyone want to put the case for Air Squadron?, I'm tempted to really get stuck in to laying it at around 11/8


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: crown on August 17, 2014, 03:13:58 PM
Looking at Pontefract 2.45 tomorrow thought Aramist looked a big price @ 12-1. Have to discount a poor run last time at Chester, but would have thought he has a decent chance if back to anything like his best and seems like any overnight rain wouldn't hurt his chances. small win bet?

Nice one Simon


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 17, 2014, 03:40:22 PM
Looking at Pontefract 2.45 tomorrow thought Aramist looked a big price @ 12-1. Have to discount a poor run last time at Chester, but would have thought he has a decent chance if back to anything like his best and seems like any overnight rain wouldn't hurt his chances. small win bet?

Nice one Simon

Not another Simon winner, surely?

Incred stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 18, 2014, 05:26:58 PM
4.10 Haydock   Go Go Green 20/1 e/w   C&D winner, OK on ground, modest recent form but not beaten out of sight. Stable 2nd string on jockey bookings, though 3lb claimer Joey Haynes has won or placed on half his rides in last week, so doubt he can hurt his chances too much. Draw not ideal, suggest keep stakes small.

4.45 Thirsk ,  GoGo chooses today to win after i gave up on him. To add insult to injury he beat Haajes who i did back today by a nose.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 19, 2014, 12:22:14 AM
Whinging Willie      Brighton 16:15  8/1  Paddy Power  e/w.  Although the form figures are not that inspiring he is a C&D winner and has been ridden positively last couple of times before not lasting home over 1m4f, hoping same tactics have a better chance of working tomorrow over 1m2f
Dalaki                   Brighton 16:15  10/1 Ladbrokes   e/w. smaller bet on similar basis, ran a decent race at Epsom and tried to make all over 1m4f in a better race last time


Bishop Wulstan      Brighton 15:45  7/1 win - various.  Fav not certain to handle course, BW has run ok here and some respectable efforts at this trip and level
Chesil Beach          Brighton 15:45  4/1 win - various.  Lingfield form suggests he will handle course and proven at trip


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 19, 2014, 01:27:26 AM
2 in my tracker for tomorrow, but not had a chance to look at either yet.

Mambo Rhythm in the 1545 @ Brighton, and Master of Song in the 20:00 @ Leicester.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on August 19, 2014, 01:52:02 AM
I like Mighty Warrior in the 5.30 at Leicester @ 6/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 19, 2014, 07:25:43 AM
2 in my tracker for tomorrow, but not had a chance to look at either yet.

Mambo Rhythm in the 1545 @ Brighton, and Master of Song in the 20:00 @ Leicester.

Pardon my ignorance, but I keep seeing that expression. What is a "tracker", please?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 19, 2014, 07:56:33 AM
2 in my tracker for tomorrow, but not had a chance to look at either yet.

Mambo Rhythm in the 1545 @ Brighton, and Master of Song in the 20:00 @ Leicester.

Pardon my ignorance, but I keep seeing that expression. What is a "tracker", please?

Its like a reminder service were you get an email when horses you have chosen are entered up

irishracing.com is a good one imo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 19, 2014, 08:04:56 AM
2 in my tracker for tomorrow, but not had a chance to look at either yet.

Mambo Rhythm in the 1545 @ Brighton, and Master of Song in the 20:00 @ Leicester.

Pardon my ignorance, but I keep seeing that expression. What is a "tracker", please?

Its like a reminder service were you get an email when horses you have chosen are entered up

irishracing.com is a good one imo

Gotcha, thanks John.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 19, 2014, 09:08:45 AM
Morning Kids!

Good to see the winners have continued to flow. Simon, you should start charging!  ;)

On the note of trackers, it may help you if you put in what you consider to be the ideal conditions for your horse. For instance when watching a reply of one of yesterdays races I put a horse in the tracker, but on the basis it runs over further than the 7f it ran over yesterday. If you just put the horse in, it is pretty much doing half a job.
Jot down the conditions it requires(or you consider it requires). If the horse has just ran well at Southwell over 1m finishing well, if you put it in your tracker with no notes and it runs at Lingfield over 7f, it probably won't be so appealing as when you thought it was a horse to follow.

I am sure most of you do/know this, but I know I have fallen foul of this at times.

In the last at Brighton, I was going to post last night but wanted to make sure ot was still quickish conditions, so we have lost a couple of points following a dry night.

Sleipnir has been in my tracker, hoping for blinkers to be applied. They are today. Horse has yet to win but shown some promise at times and I am hoping the first time blinkers will keep his mind on the job at the business end.

Would advise a small ew bet at 15/2, but be quick!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 19, 2014, 10:07:34 AM
Now best 5-1, but general 4s now.

Would defo leave it now if you missed it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 19, 2014, 10:15:05 AM
Now best 5-1, but general 4s now.

Would defo leave it now if you missed it.

Crikey, that was quick.

Thanks for the "Tracker" info. I don't have the time to do it myself, but its useful to know.

I'm hoping to be able to watch most of the Ebor meet (Saturday excepted), as I'm taking it easy this week, so quite looking forward to that.   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 19, 2014, 11:15:14 AM
Yep can't wait.

Need to work extra hard having just had the most expensive holiday of my life. A short trip to France to celebrate Mother Outlaws 60th, turned into me now being the proud half owner of a little seaside cottage outside La Rochelle...

Best get studying.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 19, 2014, 12:49:33 PM
Yep can't wait.

Need to work extra hard having just had the most expensive holiday of my life. A short trip to France to celebrate Mother Outlaws 60th, turned into me now being the proud half owner of a little seaside cottage outside La Rochelle...

Best get studying.

Bloody hell, life can't be too bad!! Congrats, if the nags start going south you could always rent it out, first in line!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 19, 2014, 01:33:06 PM
Well done on the cottage Adz, sounds cool.

I had a little e/w bet on Mcmonagle in the 7.30 at Leicester @ 16-1, quite like his attitude and think he should be suited by the track
Also thought the percentage call was to oppose Jay Kay in the last, I had a small win bet on Botanist at 7-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 19, 2014, 02:08:26 PM
Nothing much not to like about this one

BOGART 1.55 YORK tommorow 20's gone already 16's wont be around in a few hours time

Won this last year from 3lbs lower mark, been out of form but had two very nice sighters from Amy Ryan. Callan on for Ryan has long been a massive positive and he just keeps improving as a jockey after spending most of the year in the hard school of Hong Kong. Had his first winner back at Wolverhampton last night...

Win only as a bit all or nothing, rarely this confident about a horse in a sprint like this



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 19, 2014, 02:23:31 PM
Yes.

I mentioned Bogart to Bobby earlier today. Has shown B all, though that was the case last year I recall, but like you say I think Callan v under rated, and worth a few bob.

First 5 with Sky, if you can.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 19, 2014, 02:35:11 PM
I like Mighty Warrior in the 5.30 at Leicester @ 6/1


Welcome to the thread Mr H.

I notice your first selection is sadly a NR.

Keep em coming though please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on August 19, 2014, 04:44:19 PM
Whinging Willie      Brighton 16:15  8/1  Paddy Power  e/w.  Although the form figures are not that inspiring he is a C&D winner and has been ridden positively last couple of times before not lasting home over 1m4f, hoping same tactics have a better chance of working tomorrow over 1m2f
Dalaki                   Brighton 16:15  10/1 Ladbrokes   e/w. smaller bet on similar basis, ran a decent race at Epsom and tried to make all over 1m4f in a better race last time


Bishop Wulstan      Brighton 15:45  7/1 win - various.  Fav not certain to handle course, BW has run ok here and some respectable efforts at this trip and level
Chesil Beach          Brighton 15:45  4/1 win - various.  Lingfield form suggests he will handle course and proven at trip

Thanks for these.

Two winners and a place!!

Brilliant stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on August 19, 2014, 04:44:39 PM
Whinging Willie      Brighton 16:15  8/1  Paddy Power  e/w.  Although the form figures are not that inspiring he is a C&D winner and has been ridden positively last couple of times before not lasting home over 1m4f, hoping same tactics have a better chance of working tomorrow over 1m2f
Dalaki                   Brighton 16:15  10/1 Ladbrokes   e/w. smaller bet on similar basis, ran a decent race at Epsom and tried to make all over 1m4f in a better race last time


Bishop Wulstan      Brighton 15:45  7/1 win - various.  Fav not certain to handle course, BW has run ok here and some respectable efforts at this trip and level
Chesil Beach          Brighton 15:45  4/1 win - various.  Lingfield form suggests he will handle course and proven at trip

Thanks for these.

Two winners.

Brilliant stuff.

and 2 places incredible really is


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 19, 2014, 04:46:43 PM
Whinging Willie      Brighton 16:15  8/1  Paddy Power  e/w.  Although the form figures are not that inspiring he is a C&D winner and has been ridden positively last couple of times before not lasting home over 1m4f, hoping same tactics have a better chance of working tomorrow over 1m2f
Dalaki                   Brighton 16:15  10/1 Ladbrokes   e/w. smaller bet on similar basis, ran a decent race at Epsom and tried to make all over 1m4f in a better race last time


Bishop Wulstan      Brighton 15:45  7/1 win - various.  Fav not certain to handle course, BW has run ok here and some respectable efforts at this trip and level
Chesil Beach          Brighton 15:45  4/1 win - various.  Lingfield form suggests he will handle course and proven at trip

Thanks for these.

Two winners.

Brilliant stuff.

and 2 places incredible really is


Incredible form indeed.

Back blind and go to counter stuff!! ;applause; ;applause; ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 19, 2014, 04:47:23 PM
Great stuff Simon

Surely a matter of time before you get snapped up? hopefully not mind



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: MANTIS01 on August 19, 2014, 05:42:41 PM
I like Mighty Warrior in the 5.30 at Leicester @ 6/1

Would prefer it if you put up some reasoning and thoughts behind your selection.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 19, 2014, 05:46:41 PM
Bit part player these days, but another place puts us a few more quid ahead.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on August 19, 2014, 06:14:57 PM
Awesome form today guys, well done!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 19, 2014, 06:30:10 PM

Missed them

wdwdwd


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 20, 2014, 08:08:50 AM
Whinging Willie      Brighton 16:15  8/1  Paddy Power  e/w.  Although the form figures are not that inspiring he is a C&D winner and has been ridden positively last couple of times before not lasting home over 1m4f, hoping same tactics have a better chance of working tomorrow over 1m2f
Dalaki                   Brighton 16:15  10/1 Ladbrokes   e/w. smaller bet on similar basis, ran a decent race at Epsom and tried to make all over 1m4f in a better race last time


Bishop Wulstan      Brighton 15:45  7/1 win - various.  Fav not certain to handle course, BW has run ok here and some respectable efforts at this trip and level
Chesil Beach          Brighton 15:45  4/1 win - various.  Lingfield form suggests he will handle course and proven at trip

The man is ON FIRE.

Well done, it's like a permanent heater.

Eyes peeled for any York stuff you put up. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 20, 2014, 09:02:24 AM
For those that didn't back Bogart yesterday, he is currently 16/1 best price and 5 places with Koral.  Seems good to me. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on August 20, 2014, 09:39:19 AM
I like Mighty Warrior in the 5.30 at Leicester @ 6/1

Would prefer it if you put up some reasoning and thoughts behind your selection.

It didn't even run pal. But fwiw I'm not really too concerned what you'd prefer.

I like Bogart too. And I like Singeur in the 3.20 Musselburgh @ 8/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 20, 2014, 10:57:33 AM
Morning. Beautiful day for it!

Lovely York.

First race. Glad to see Goldream pulled out. A bit of sentiment was clouding my judgement! Bogart beat him cosily in this race last year and is stacks better off. I like all Goldream form and think that Move in Time is the danger but hoping that this has been Bogerts aim as the 20s yestrday and even the 14s as I write still look excellent.
If one were to pop up I can see it being Secret Witness.

Third Race.

Readers will know I am a big Hartnell fan and have backed him for the Ledge. I think there is one in here that is quietly making progress without looking too spectacular though.
Snow Sky beat Hartnell earlier in the season but was beat at Ascot and at the time, that looked like it was as good as he was. However he then came out and won over 1.4m at Goodwood, and looked, as the commentator said to "fall over the line", however he took ages to pull up and during the race still looked a little green. It maybe that the 1.4m was bottom of his range and time/experience and the Ledge trip will  see the best of him. He was also noted as sweating and doing everything wrong pre race. I am worried that Johnstone has such a poor record at York and Hartnell has drifted all week.
Kingston Hill is worthy fav, and Rog has that glint in his eye that he will win something big this year. At 6/4 he wont have my money on him.
The O Brien horse is interesting in that he won 16 lengths last time, but was pushed from about a mile out, almost as if to see how far he could win, and show just how good he is. He may have shown glimpses at home but been a lazy worker and they needed to find out just how good he was. Either way it was certainly an unusual race. He could be anything, but I have learnt a few expensive lessons over the years, and I now prefer to see a bit more proof.

Snow Sky with a decent ew bet, and I would also refer you to both Laddies and Hills, win today and the Ledger books, where SS can be backed at 40s for a few extra pennies.
I have also invested a few bob on a couple of others too. Marzocco looks very big at 100s based on his proximity to Hartnell at RA


4.20

I am giving old Saptapadi a final chance now he is tried over 2m again. Has looked for ages like he needs this extra distance, always seemingly getting going too late. He has tried 2m a few times before but with some uninspiring rides, but I notice he did finish second at Sandown over 2m when rated 100, and he is now a lot lower.
I am a big fan of another Ellison rogue in Knightly Escapade who used to cost me dearly in his days at John Dunlop. Ellison seems to be getting a good tune out of him now, and at 16s and 25s I shall have ew bets on both, recognising that a small win only bet on the fav, Spacious Sky, should also be part of any betting here too.

GL. Have a great day.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on August 20, 2014, 11:32:43 AM
Nice write up. Could be right about Secret Witness.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 20, 2014, 12:46:50 PM
Good to see we're all on the same wavelength, I ended up having a small win bet on Secret Witness "Just in case". Also bet Racy as he has some good performances under his belt in big fields at York - but with a lot of reservations off his current mark.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 20, 2014, 01:21:14 PM
Secret Witness and Saptapadi both probably "owe me" more than any other horses in training. Have been having "just in case" bets on them for a while if they win i will do a small grimace but Saptapadi especially just doesnt fancy going past horses, (hardly a brave statement)

gd lk today all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 20, 2014, 01:31:23 PM
4.20 York,    I decided rightly or wrongly to give a lot of weight to course form to help narrow down some of the big fields today and felt Itlaaq @ 14-1 fitted the bill pretty well and makes a nice e/w bet if no more drop out.  
Will be tempted to bet Sir Frank Morgan if he carries on drifting, looking for 40-1. Very Ice-Creamy I know, but he's been alternating good and bad runs for some time now - gotta have a system right?   :)up  Currently 45-1 at Betbright for those that can.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 20, 2014, 01:38:26 PM
the first is down to 15 Magical Macey is out....

Quelle surprise glad i went win only Bogart now

Make all Neil please....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 20, 2014, 01:41:25 PM
Once again certain firms cutting Magical Macey before announcing it a non runner

Amazing this is allowed amounts to fraud


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 20, 2014, 01:45:57 PM
Thoughts on Imperial Legend in the 3.20 at Musselburgh? Seems like you can draw a line through the majority of the field, with horses that don't like winning, are carrying chunks of weight or have unpleasant draws. 6/1 seems fun.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: MANTIS01 on August 20, 2014, 02:04:39 PM
I like Mighty Warrior in the 5.30 at Leicester @ 6/1

Would prefer it if you put up some reasoning and thoughts behind your selection.

It didn't even run pal. But fwiw I'm not really too concerned what you'd prefer.

I like Bogart too. And I like Singeur in the 3.20 Musselburgh @ 8/1.

No worries pal. It's what I'd expect most people to feel like after being asked for justification.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on August 20, 2014, 02:08:51 PM
Quite a lot of pace on in this first race, might be 6/7 trying to blaze a trail and could become a bit cut throat up front developing into a battle too soon.

What hold up options do we like? York Glory perhaps @ 14.5 but theres obv a danger of Spencer over-waiting the hold up tactics as he does, Mass Rally?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 20, 2014, 02:11:05 PM
Mass Rally is rock solid and my second choice in the race, surely not a co incidence the handicapper has dropped him 3lbs for not running for most of the season to just get into this race?

York Glory not a fan of first time headgear on a horse that is held up personally


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on August 20, 2014, 02:11:43 PM
Mass Rally is rock solid and my second choice in the race, surely not a co incidence the handicapper has dropped him 3lbs for not running for most of the season to just get into this race?

York Glory not a fan of first time headgear on a horse that is held up personally

 :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 20, 2014, 02:18:59 PM
Thoughts on Imperial Legend in the 3.20 at Musselburgh? Seems like you can draw a line through the majority of the field, with horses that don't like winning, are carrying chunks of weight or have unpleasant draws. 6/1 seems fun.

 
Seems like you have chosen to contradict yourself Tal.

Imp L has lots of weight and hasn't won for 10 races, yet most of the favs have a 1 somewhere in their recent form.  :dontask:That said, it did look like it was on its way back last time.

Sounds like you are on already, so GL mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 20, 2014, 02:23:28 PM
And so it begins. SH'd in the first, and beaten by the wrong Ryan hoss!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 20, 2014, 02:25:41 PM
And so it begins. SH'd in the first, and beaten by the wrong Ryan hoss!

Half a stride - less maybe - & you win it.

Unlucky.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 20, 2014, 02:28:57 PM
Thoughts on Imperial Legend in the 3.20 at Musselburgh? Seems like you can draw a line through the majority of the field, with horses that don't like winning, are carrying chunks of weight or have unpleasant draws. 6/1 seems fun.

 
Seems like you have chosen to contradict yourself Tal.

Imp L has lots of weight and hasn't won for 10 races, yet most of the favs have a 1 somewhere in their recent form.  :dontask:That said, it did look like it was on its way back last time.

Sounds like you are on already, so GL mate.

Phrased that really badly. Sorry!

Meant it was a daft looking race on paper with so many reasons not to back the horses. Wasn't explaining my "system" :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 20, 2014, 02:32:23 PM
I hope you didnt back Mass Rally

Yikes not sure Mulrennan what was doing horse has made him look silly before but that was plain awful

Bogart ran fine just not quite good enough, Amy knew


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 20, 2014, 02:35:59 PM
Varian having doubts about Kingston Hill running because of the ground..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 20, 2014, 02:42:57 PM
Oh dear.

Just noticed the mighty Linfoot put it up last nite and I forgot to look! ;tightend;

Hopefully Marky off to a flier, as I know he is a disciple too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 20, 2014, 03:07:50 PM
Oh dear.

Just noticed the mighty Linfoot put it up last nite and I forgot to look! ;tightend;

Hopefully Marky off to a flier, as I know he is a disciple too.

I backed Goldream, so had a saver on Bogart when you guys put it up and then transferred my money to Move in Time when Goldream came out.

Hopefully Peter Cunnah was right...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 20, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
Morning. Beautiful day for it!

Lovely York.

First race. Glad to see Goldream pulled out. A bit of sentiment was clouding my judgement! Bogart beat him cosily in this race last year and is stacks better off. I like all Goldream form and think that Move in Time is the danger but hoping that this has been Bogerts aim as the 20s yestrday and even the 14s as I write still look excellent.
If one were to pop up I can see it being Secret Witness.

Third Race.

Readers will know I am a big Hartnell fan and have backed him for the Ledge. I think there is one in here that is quietly making progress without looking too spectacular though.
Snow Sky beat Hartnell earlier in the season but was beat at Ascot and at the time, that looked like it was as good as he was. However he then came out and won over 1.4m at Goodwood, and looked, as the commentator said to "fall over the line", however he took ages to pull up and during the race still looked a little green. It maybe that the 1.4m was bottom of his range and time/experience and the Ledge trip will  see the best of him. He was also noted as sweating and doing everything wrong pre race. I am worried that Johnstone has such a poor record at York and Hartnell has drifted all week.
Kingston Hill is worthy fav, and Rog has that glint in his eye that he will win something big this year. At 6/4 he wont have my money on him.
The O Brien horse is interesting in that he won 16 lengths last time, but was pushed from about a mile out, almost as if to see how far he could win, and show just how good he is. He may have shown glimpses at home but been a lazy worker and they needed to find out just how good he was. Either way it was certainly an unusual race. He could be anything, but I have learnt a few expensive lessons over the years, and I now prefer to see a bit more proof.

Snow Sky with a decent ew bet, and I would also refer you to both Laddies and Hills, win today and the Ledger books, where SS can be backed at 40s for a few extra pennies.
I have also invested a few bob on a couple of others too. Marzocco looks very big at 100s based on his proximity to Hartnell at RA


4.20

I am giving old Saptapadi a final chance now he is tried over 2m again. Has looked for ages like he needs this extra distance, always seemingly getting going too late. He has tried 2m a few times before but with some uninspiring rides, but I notice he did finish second at Sandown over 2m when rated 100, and he is now a lot lower.
I am a big fan of another Ellison rogue in Knightly Escapade who used to cost me dearly in his days at John Dunlop. Ellison seems to be getting a good tune out of him now, and at 16s and 25s I shall have ew bets on both, recognising that a small win only bet on the fav, Spacious Sky, should also be part of any betting here too.

GL. Have a great day.



Seconditis!

Nice profit though, & he looked the winner 2 out.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 20, 2014, 03:50:19 PM
I'd be very keen on him for the Ledge now. 10s with Laddies looks very fair to me. Not sure how long it will last. ;)

I will top up on Hartnell too. Nowhere to go when travelling well and hands quickly dropped


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 20, 2014, 03:52:26 PM
I'd be very keen on him for the Ledge now. 10s with Laddies looks very fair to me. Not sure how long it will last. ;)I will top up on Hartnell too. Nowhere to go when travelling well and hands quickly dropped

To my naive eye, it looked a great St Leger trial.

The ground at York seems very fast, will he be OK on the likely going @ Doncaster in September?

If so, I may just have a tickle.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 20, 2014, 03:58:16 PM
I'd be very keen on him for the Ledge now. 10s with Laddies looks very fair to me. Not sure how long it will last. ;)I will top up on Hartnell too. Nowhere to go when travelling well and hands quickly dropped

To my naive eye, it looked a great St Leger trial.

The ground at York seems very fast, will he be OK on the likely going @ Doncaster in September?

If so, I may just have a tickle.


Won on the heavy at Salisbury and second to Western Hymn on softy ground. I would want to see quick ground, but if taking an ante post punt gotta be realistic. At 10s I'm happy based on what I've seen.

Laddies also NRNB


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 20, 2014, 04:11:27 PM
Willougby, get your tongue out of Rubys arse.

Hardly a difficult forecast. Praising him like he picked the National tricast.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 20, 2014, 04:20:47 PM
Willougby, get your tongue out of Rubys arse.

Hardly a difficult forecast. Praising him like he picked the National tricast.

Can't have been that hard to find! I said much the same to you on the phone, but was stubborn and just backed Gatsby  :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 20, 2014, 04:24:11 PM
Willougby, get your tongue out of Rubys arse.

Hardly a difficult forecast. Praising him like he picked the National tricast.

Can't have been that hard to find! I said much the same to you on the phone, but was stubborn and just backed Gatsby  :D

Cant see Willougby so keen to put his tongue near any of your orifices mate!

Black Douglas runs later but price long gone. FWIW


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 20, 2014, 04:32:18 PM
Blimey.

"Listen" has more ticks than a Grade A student exam paper.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 20, 2014, 04:49:32 PM
Thank you Mr Ellison. Once again Im on the wrong one of yours.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 20, 2014, 05:07:56 PM
Thank you Mr Ellison. Once again Im on the wrong one of yours.....

Ha, same here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 20, 2014, 05:09:26 PM
Dreenie's mate knew. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 20, 2014, 05:10:14 PM
Improved one for Jim Bolger

superb trainer


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on August 20, 2014, 05:32:37 PM
there is some heater going on here guys, great stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 21, 2014, 10:53:56 AM
1.55 York  Have to be worried about Kool Kompany especially as I like his draw, but the stats in this race seem to make it worth taking him on
Fast Act  11/2 win   Pricewise horse and similarly well drawn
Markaz 12/1  e/w
Winstanley 100/1 e/w   Had to find an outsider, and seems to go ok at York, may like it better than some if there's a few heavy showers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on August 21, 2014, 11:04:53 AM
stupid questions

3.10

Top Notch Tonto won a group 3 last year, 2nd in a group 1 to olympic glory at the back end, last ran in a group 3 and was unfit first time out, didn't stay 10f in a group 2 after that

now is in a handicap

7lb off for the claimer onboard

25-1 1/4 1,2,3,4 vc

the ground might be a bit quick, but then again it won on good to firm last year dropping back from group races to listed


put me off, please....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 21, 2014, 11:34:31 AM
Ellison said yesterday had started to show more the last few weeks at home

Very unlikely to run if it was a swamp would be nearly favourite in this but it isnt. It did win on good to firm last year but as is often the case that was nearer good and unless it rains this is nearer firm a massive difference.

If it doesnt rain would take odds on it is pulled out today



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 21, 2014, 12:04:26 PM
It is now raining at York


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 21, 2014, 12:07:38 PM
It is now raining at York

Uh-oh, proper spanner in the works, that.

The BBC weather chappie - who presumably has a rainometer - says....

Cloudy with outbreaks of rain through the morning. During the afternoon the rain will turn more showery,


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 21, 2014, 12:08:52 PM
Anthea L Morshead ‏@AntheaLMorshead  9m
Just started raining again @yorkracecourse . Looks like clearing thro in next hour. Further showers poss in afternoon. Going update tofollow

Doesnt look like to much due


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 21, 2014, 12:24:22 PM
The Irish Field ‏@TheIrishField  51s
Breaking: Jamie Spencer to retire from race-riding at end of season to take up management position with Qatar Racing. More to follow.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 21, 2014, 12:45:35 PM
Quick quiz question

How many winners did Jamie ride over hurdles?

Bonus points for naming the trainer/s and the year (clue makes me realise how long he has been riding)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 21, 2014, 12:51:54 PM
The Irish Field ‏@TheIrishField  51s
Breaking: Jamie Spencer to retire from race-riding at end of season to take up management position with Qatar Racing. More to follow.




Roll out the barrel........


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 21, 2014, 01:00:36 PM
haven't looked at latest prices, it's been a while since I backed some of these...

Nakuti York 16:55                  50/1 e/w    just seemed a little overpriced to me
Dutch Rose York 16:55           14/1 e/w    like the course form
Waila York 16:20                    6/1  e/w    seemed solid , not getting beat far in good races and stays further
Bronze Angel York 15:05         10/1  e/w
Gabrials Kaka York 15:05         12/1  e/w    Bit of a sentimental bet , just like the horse too much
Cursory Glance York 14:30       3/1    win      lot to like about the style of last victory, not sure if this is huge value


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 21, 2014, 01:09:51 PM
The last at Wolver is one of the better "dirty" each way heats you will see.

A fav who should win but was outbattled last time (albeit good form) the second in Tinga which runs similar every time and should be improving slightly now with Beckett rather than Channon and most importantly 5 of the remaining 9 runners having third runs for a handicap mark.

An absolute no no if you want to keep an account but a corking each way bet if you are able, especially with De Sousa onboard who rarely if ever doesnt ride out for the places.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on August 21, 2014, 01:27:23 PM
The last at Wolver is one of the better "dirty" each way heats you will see.

A fav who should win but was outbattled last time (albeit good form) the second in Tinga which runs similar every time and should be improving slightly now with Beckett rather than Channon and most importantly 5 of the remaining 9 runners having third runs for a handicap mark.

An absolute no no if you want to keep an account but a corking each way bet if you are able, especially with De Sousa onboard who rarely if ever doesnt ride out for the places.



Thesen are better in shops right? rather then getting accounts closed online, which horses should i be looking at backing, in a goo each way race?

Help for a noooB!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 21, 2014, 01:34:14 PM
Tinga the second fav looks the bet

And definitely in shops, the fact there are over 8 runners and hence 3 places (more likely 2 as the favourite will place) makes this even more attractive really




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 21, 2014, 01:38:43 PM

Talking of Wolverhampton i just can't get away from the Fav in the first

Simon Walker up top

Expected evens at best   11/8 seems tooooo good


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 21, 2014, 01:57:25 PM
Just seen Reinman on Oddschecker has tipped Gabrial's Kaka and Markaz - feels like I've done my money already (He's not been in the best form lately)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 21, 2014, 02:06:40 PM
Just seen Reinman on Oddschecker has tipped Gabrial's Kaka and Markaz - feels like I've done my money already (He's not been in the best form lately)

Tell him to stick to counting matchsticks ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 21, 2014, 02:11:39 PM
Just seen Reinman on Oddschecker has tipped Gabrial's Kaka and Markaz - feels like I've done my money already (He's not been in the best form lately)

Tell him to stick to counting matchsticks ;)


Can't say ever I ever noticed him IN form.


On which note.


Chucking a couple of small ew darts at New Providence and Tachophobia in the first and a small ew bet on Island Remede and Azagal, also at monster prices. Sorry, left it  a bit late for big write ups as action about to start. GL all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 21, 2014, 02:14:23 PM
I covered him for two weeks once (Reinman) probably shouldnt say this but his best mate is the boss make of that what you will...

Anyway in other news

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/aug/21/14-year-ban-for-jump-jockey-steven-gagan-who-fell-off-deliberately?CMP=twt_gu


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 21, 2014, 02:17:23 PM
Other than BE'S stuff one bet for me today at York

Arthur Martinleake in the first each way with the firms playing 4 places, Burke in real good form and his youngsters keep outrunning their prices. managed to nabble some 33's

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 21, 2014, 02:25:19 PM
Shock...Adz starts with a second.

Should have won too, wondered all over the place at start and lost it there. Sigh.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 21, 2014, 02:37:56 PM
Unlucky there Adz

Some very quick middle fractions from yours after missing the kick


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 21, 2014, 02:38:21 PM
Bought RP today and looked at Pricewise and backed Mubtaghaa before I looked at the races. Had completely forgotten as really didn't fancy it - only realised when they mentioned it was pricewise in commentary - nice surprise


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 21, 2014, 02:43:11 PM
Bought RP today and looked at Pricewise and backed Mubtaghaa before I looked at the races. Had completely forgotten as really didn't fancy it - only realised when they mentioned it was pricewise in commentary - nice surprise


Surely Pricewise backs what you put up?!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 21, 2014, 02:47:36 PM
Ha Ha, I was thinking "No! you can't possibly win this" as it crossed the line


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 21, 2014, 02:49:26 PM
Simonwise...



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 21, 2014, 03:04:21 PM
Think Tiggy Wiggy would have ran ok in the Nunthorpe from 7lbs 12!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 21, 2014, 03:09:58 PM
Think Tiggy Wiggy would have ran ok in the Nunthorpe from 7lbs 12!




Yup. Most annoying. Thought it would struggle with the sixth furlong especially when it went off like the clappers. Some performance.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 21, 2014, 03:20:19 PM
Not my type of bet but stating the obvious and what the prices say but the second looks next years horse


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 21, 2014, 03:24:07 PM
Not my type of bet but stating the obvious and what the prices say but the second looks next years horse


Yup still looked very green....must have been my 20p weighing him down again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 21, 2014, 03:35:52 PM
stupid questions

3.10

Top Notch Tonto won a group 3 last year, 2nd in a group 1 to olympic glory at the back end, last ran in a group 3 and was unfit first time out, didn't stay 10f in a group 2 after that

now is in a handicap

7lb off for the claimer onboard

25-1 1/4 1,2,3,4 vc

the ground might be a bit quick, but then again it won on good to firm last year dropping back from group races to listed


put me off, please....

I liked your reasoning Tighty so I was leaning at the line with you. Unlucky.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 21, 2014, 04:13:00 PM
Great shout, unlucky


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 21, 2014, 04:55:43 PM
Painful 66-1 fourth. Gonna have to stop posting soon, seem to put the mockers on em. ::)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 21, 2014, 05:06:41 PM
Unlucky, If they keep outrunning their prices you can't help but come out ahead. (pls don't stop posting)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 21, 2014, 06:54:41 PM

Talking of Wolverhampton i just can't get away from the Fav in the first

Simon Walker up top

Expected evens at best   11/8 seems tooooo good

Won like a gud un shud 5/6

Hope some of you got the 11/8


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 21, 2014, 06:56:20 PM

Talking of Wolverhampton i just can't get away from the Fav in the first

Simon Walker up top

Expected evens at best   11/8 seems tooooo good

Won like a gud un shud 5/6

Hope some of you got the 11/8



N1 Treve. Easy peasy. Ty


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 21, 2014, 09:34:36 PM
Will be interested to see Lady Bingo run in the last.

wanted to bet the tricast in SP order for fun, but cant find a way to do it online


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 21, 2014, 10:06:02 PM
Two Tracker horses tomorrow, and hoping for a big day for Mr Haggas

Satellite in the first and Perfect Persussion in the last.

Both have had an array of jockeys/rides both looking like they are being primed for something ahead. I hope my gut is right and it is today. PP especially has a decent conditional and a step up he looks like he needs, looks very tasty at 16s. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 21, 2014, 10:52:36 PM
Was  looking at Grandorio in the 7.05 Hamilton, seems to have a history of running in and out of form from race to race, so even the terrible run last time out doesn't completely put me off. Potentially reasonably handicapped and versatile ground wise, don't know if the 20-1 with Ladbrokes is big enough, given we're probably playing for place money in a reasonable e/w race?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on August 22, 2014, 02:35:11 AM
Thoughts on High Jinx at 14:30 York @ 10/1?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 22, 2014, 08:26:37 AM
Thoughts on High Jinx at 14:30 York @ 10/1?


Solid ew. If I was running a tipping service I would have it in my 3/4 picks for the race. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 22, 2014, 08:28:20 AM
Nothing for me today other than Be picks

Mostly races with a bad shape on firm ground that has been rain softened, tricky stuff


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 22, 2014, 08:57:58 AM
Thoughts on High Jinx at 14:30 York @ 10/1?

I backed this on Betfair last night at 12.5.  I think it will probably find one or two too good, as it is a bit old to improve.  Looks a bad each way race, so backed it on the nose regardless of my prior view.  

Hope it wins obviously.

I also backed Cavalryman on Hills before anyone starts.

Edit.  Korals are 11/1 and quarter first 3.  If you can get that price and quarter first 3 it looks very good.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 22, 2014, 09:18:54 AM
Some interesting views gents.

One won't bet because of changing conditions, and thinks its a tricky spot to find winners. Fair enough. But will back someone elses opinion.

The other has backed it win only because its a bad ew race and then its a very good ew bet.

Magic mushroom day? GL chaps. ;) ;)



Disclaimer; this message is not meant to offend before anyone chucks their toys out. Just a bit of banter. Its Friday!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 22, 2014, 09:24:55 AM
Some interesting views gents.

One won't bet because of changing conditions, and thinks its a tricky spot to find winners. Fair enough. But will back someone elses opinion.

The other has backed it win only because its a bad ew race and then its a very good ew bet.

Magic mushroom day? GL chaps. ;) ;)



Disclaimer; this message is not meant to offend before anyone chucks their toys out. Just a bit of banter. Its Friday!


FWIW it was terrible when I looked last night.  Fifth 123 with best price 10/1 vs 12.5 on the machine.  I checked after I had written and realised it wasn't any more.

Of course I have still f'd up, because I had it in my head that there was 10 in this so each way was fine, but there are only 8.  Hence another reason I we should be win only.   Hopefully we get good and there is no reason for anyone to pull out.  Apologies Tikay if it goes 7, really should have realised.  (Though if we wait we may get 8/1 and a fifth). 

Anybody having a good meeting? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 22, 2014, 09:26:27 AM
Some interesting views gents.

One won't bet because of changing conditions, and thinks its a tricky spot to find winners. Fair enough. But will back someone elses opinion.

The other has backed it win only because its a bad ew race and then its a very good ew bet.

Magic mushroom day? GL chaps. ;) ;)



Disclaimer; this message is not meant to offend before anyone chucks their toys out. Just a bit of banter. Its Friday!


FWIW it was terrible when I looked last night.  Fifth 123 with best price 10/1 vs 12.5 on the machine.  I checked after I had written and realised it wasn't any more.

Of course I have still f'd up, because I had it in my head that there was 10 in this so each way was fine, but there are only 8.  Hence another reason I we should be win only.   Hopefully we get good and there is no reason for anyone to pull out.  Apologies Tikay if it goes 7, really should have realised.  (Though if we wait we may get 8/1 and a fifth). 

Anybody having a good meeting? 

Yep showing a nice profit through blindly following someone actually :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 22, 2014, 09:30:07 AM
Some interesting views gents.

One won't bet because of changing conditions, and thinks its a tricky spot to find winners. Fair enough. But will back someone elses opinion.

The other has backed it win only because its a bad ew race and then its a very good ew bet.

Magic mushroom day? GL chaps. ;) ;)



Disclaimer; this message is not meant to offend before anyone chucks their toys out. Just a bit of banter. Its Friday!


FWIW it was terrible when I looked last night.  Fifth 123 with best price 10/1 vs 12.5 on the machine.  I checked after I had written and realised it wasn't any more.

Of course I have still f'd up, because I had it in my head that there was 10 in this so each way was fine, but there are only 8.  Hence another reason I we should be win only.   Hopefully we get good and there is no reason for anyone to pull out.  Apologies Tikay if it goes 7, really should have realised.  (Though if we wait we may get 8/1 and a fifth). 

Anybody having a good meeting? 

Yep showing a nice profit through blindly following someone actually :)

Missed race 1 day 1, so suspect not :(.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 22, 2014, 09:31:00 AM
ouch ul bad timing



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 22, 2014, 09:32:22 AM
Some interesting views gents.

One won't bet because of changing conditions, and thinks its a tricky spot to find winners. Fair enough. But will back someone elses opinion.

The other has backed it win only because its a bad ew race and then its a very good ew bet.

Magic mushroom day? GL chaps. ;) ;)



Disclaimer; this message is not meant to offend before anyone chucks their toys out. Just a bit of banter. Its Friday!


FWIW it was terrible when I looked last night.  Fifth 123 with best price 10/1 vs 12.5 on the machine.  I checked after I had written and realised it wasn't any more.

Of course I have still f'd up, because I had it in my head that there was 10 in this so each way was fine, but there are only 8.  Hence another reason I we should be win only.   Hopefully we get good and there is no reason for anyone to pull out.  Apologies Tikay if it goes 7, really should have realised.  (Though if we wait we may get 8/1 and a fifth). 

Anybody having a good meeting? 

Yep showing a nice profit through blindly following someone actually :)


I would hope you are. From what Doobs wrote, I guess 1 winner made all the difference. Still nice to have your opinion posted though mate. ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 22, 2014, 09:58:43 AM
Interest that Dolphin Rock seemingly runs in the first despite being pulled out two days ago with a self cert....

Reason = Lame


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 22, 2014, 10:08:55 AM
1.55 York 
Stomachion   8/1
Pearl Castle   11/1
Chancery      12/1
Thought these were all good e/w, though down to 17 already  :(  Had trouble discarding a few at higher prices, Xinbama, Dolphin Village and proud Chieftain, but got to draw the line somewhere.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 22, 2014, 10:23:49 AM
Some interesting views gents.

One won't bet because of changing conditions, and thinks its a tricky spot to find winners. Fair enough. But will back someone elses opinion.

The other has backed it win only because its a bad ew race and then its a very good ew bet.

Magic mushroom day? GL chaps. ;) ;)



Disclaimer; this message is not meant to offend before anyone chucks their toys out. Just a bit of banter. Its Friday!


FWIW it was terrible when I looked last night.  Fifth 123 with best price 10/1 vs 12.5 on the machine.  I checked after I had written and realised it wasn't any more.

Of course I have still f'd up, because I had it in my head that there was 10 in this so each way was fine, but there are only 8.  Hence another reason I we should be win only.   Hopefully we get good and there is no reason for anyone to pull out.  Apologies Tikay if it goes 7, really should have realised.  (Though if we wait we may get 8/1 and a fifth).  

Anybody having a good meeting?  

High Jinx stood out to me as well, but the only slight reservation was with the ground as he seems to have run almost exclusively on soft and good to soft for some time now, though he was fine on good earlier in his career.

I backed Pale Mimosa with WH mobile cos I'm greedy and seems like not a lot between her and Cavalryman. She could even be in season and put Cavalryman off his stride, for all I know!

(No not having a good meeting - thanks for asking  :) )


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 22, 2014, 12:04:34 PM
Rest of the day at York:
Mushir 14/1          York 15:05
Glory Awaits 14/1  York 15:05
Rangali      14/1    York 15:40
Moohaarib 4/1      York 16:55


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on August 22, 2014, 12:28:28 PM
Some interesting views gents.

One won't bet because of changing conditions, and thinks its a tricky spot to find winners. Fair enough. But will back someone elses opinion.

The other has backed it win only because its a bad ew race and then its a very good ew bet.

Magic mushroom day? GL chaps. ;) ;)



Disclaimer; this message is not meant to offend before anyone chucks their toys out. Just a bit of banter. Its Friday!


FWIW it was terrible when I looked last night.  Fifth 123 with best price 10/1 vs 12.5 on the machine.  I checked after I had written and realised it wasn't any more.

Of course I have still f'd up, because I had it in my head that there was 10 in this so each way was fine, but there are only 8.  Hence another reason I we should be win only.   Hopefully we get good and there is no reason for anyone to pull out.  Apologies Tikay if it goes 7, really should have realised.  (Though if we wait we may get 8/1 and a fifth). 

Anybody having a good meeting? 

Some places were 1/4 odds, some were 1/5. Sj was 1/4 and I think 2 more were.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 22, 2014, 12:42:25 PM
13:55 - Dolphin and Lahaag in the first, with a saver on Adz's.

14:30 - Cavalryman in a trixie with Wigmore Hall, and Bragging last night.

15:05 - Absolutely so

15:40 - Backed Rangali and Take Cover AP, and have chucked a few quid on Stepper point and Astaire today

16:20 - Not done anything here

16:55 - Adz's and Halation


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 22, 2014, 12:52:41 PM
Thought Tadalavil was worth a chance at 16-1 4.50 Newcastle, seemed to me to be running on well on his last couple of attempts at 5f before a poor run last time over 6f up in class on soft. Had a small e/w bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 22, 2014, 01:11:21 PM
Can't resist having a couple of quid ew on Glen Moss in the 3.05.

I was really taken by its win at Haydock over 7f on good ground, conditions that he has here. He almost got there too soon that day and tempered the of the masses for the run. Since then they have tinkered about over six and seven in varying conditions but at 25-1 and one of the top rated here i thought he would be worth a few quid on.

Must confess I have also had a bet on Rerouted in the race, who looked like he was starting to get the hang of whatever Mike de K is teaching him, when he ran at Salisbury a week or so back.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 22, 2014, 01:34:21 PM
Here are the results of the Mug Punter Jury:

1.55: Communicator
2.30: Estimate
3.05: Absolutely So
4.20: Erik the Red
4.55: God Willing

(In before someone says nul points)




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on August 22, 2014, 03:19:34 PM
Here are the results of the Mug Punter Jury:

1.55: Communicator
2.30: Estimate
3.05: Absolutely So
4.20: Erik the Red
4.55: God Willing

(In before someone says nul points)




which hat did you use today Tal?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 22, 2014, 03:27:23 PM
Here are the results of the Mug Punter Jury:

1.55: Communicator
2.30: Estimate
3.05: Absolutely So
4.20: Erik the Red
4.55: God Willing

(In before someone says nul points)




which hat did you use today Tal?

The most ambitious one, natch


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 22, 2014, 03:34:45 PM
Tal Neil saves us


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 22, 2014, 03:38:39 PM
Tal Neil saves us

Aww, poor Posh Bloke.

I actually proposed to NC on Wednesday (true story) after he tipped the first three at lovely prices, but he turned me down.

I won't ask him again, he has had his chance.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 22, 2014, 03:52:23 PM
Tal Neil saves us

Aww, poor Posh Bloke.

I actually proposed to NC on Wednesday (true story) after he tipped the first three at lovely prices, but he turned me down.

I won't ask him again, he has had his chance.

Hang on. Did I just back a winner?

Stewards surely?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 22, 2014, 03:55:45 PM
Tal Neil saves us

Aww, poor Posh Bloke.

I actually proposed to NC on Wednesday (true story) after he tipped the first three at lovely prices, but he turned me down.

I won't ask him again, he has had his chance.

Hang on. Did I just back a winner?

Stewards surely?

Ha, I never realised you had put it up, well done. That Doobs bloke sent down a curve ball.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 22, 2014, 03:57:43 PM
Here are the results of the Mug Punter Jury:

1.55: Communicator
2.30: Estimate
3.05: Absolutely So
4.20: Erik the Red
4.55: God Willing

(In before someone says nul points)




which hat did you use today Tal?

The most ambitious one, natch

If one of the next two come in, the hat will be moved to a jaunty angle.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 22, 2014, 04:09:47 PM
13:55 - Dolphin and Lahaag in the first, with a saver on Adz's.

14:30 - Cavalryman in a trixie with Wigmore Hall, and Bragging last night.

15:05 - Absolutely so

15:40 - Backed Rangali and Take Cover AP, and have chucked a few quid on Stepper point and Astaire today

16:20 - Not done anything here

16:55 - Adz's and Halation

Pain and Pleasure over the course of 2 races...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 22, 2014, 04:10:14 PM
If every jockey could watch a race to learn about a patient ride, that was it. Pure genius.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on August 22, 2014, 04:11:27 PM
If every jockey could watch a race to learn about a patient ride, that was it. Pure genius.

+1

 incredible


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 22, 2014, 04:12:08 PM
If every jockey could watch a race to learn about a patient ride, that was it. Pure genius.

Wonderful.

Did see you see the run by G Force? Looked to get in all sorts of trouble, and still did well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 22, 2014, 04:16:30 PM
I have watched it again and G Force didnt have the cruising speed to take the gaps that Sole Power did

A superb sprinter never truly got the credit after winning this years ago at 100/1 looks even better now with Hughes ontop.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 22, 2014, 04:21:18 PM
I have watched it again and G Force didnt have the cruising speed to take the gaps that Sole Power did

A superb sprinter never truly got the credit after winning this years ago at 100/1 looks even better now with Hughes ontop.

Thanks John. I saw it slightly different, I thought he followed the winner through at the same pace, but got completely stopped at one stage. Well off the pace early though, yes.

I defer to your better eyes though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 22, 2014, 04:22:37 PM
I have watched it again and G Force didnt have the cruising speed to take the gaps that Sole Power did

A superb sprinter never truly got the credit after winning this years ago at 100/1 looks even better now with Hughes ontop.

Thanks John. I saw it slightly different, I thought he followed the winner through at the same pace, but got completely stopped at one stage. Well off the pace early though, yes.

I defer to your better eyes though.

Watched it again and i need specsavers certainly finished second best of them all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 22, 2014, 04:23:35 PM
Quite warming to Secret Brief in the next. Was well fancied when MJ was taking no prisoners @ Gooders and may have needed the run.

Although he has a dreadful York record, it would be strange if he couldn't get one home when the string are in great form, and the way the market has been today the only horse for money bar him has been an unraced horse from Mr H.

Another small ew called for methinks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 22, 2014, 04:27:53 PM
Quite warming to Secret Brief in the next. Was well fancied when MJ was taking no prisoners @ Gooders and may have needed the run.

Although he has a dreadful York record, it would be strange if he couldn't get one home when the string are in great form, and the way the market has been today the only horse for money bar him has been an unraced horse from Mr H.

Another small ew called for methinks


Will do me for something to watch :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 22, 2014, 04:30:47 PM
Pretty sure the money is because Hugh Taylor put it up and seems very sweet on it

You wouldnt want to pick the winner of this for your life a maiden were a fair few are trying/have group entries


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 22, 2014, 04:34:04 PM
Pretty sure the money is because Hugh Taylor put it up and seems very sweet on it

You wouldnt want to pick the winner of this for your life a maiden were a fair few are trying/have group entries

Haha, I didn't even look at Hugh's column today...

Still, hopefully Johnston can pull one out of the bag!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 22, 2014, 04:35:14 PM

You wouldnt want to pick the winner of this for your life a maiden were a fair few are trying/have group entries

Come on Erik!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 22, 2014, 04:40:42 PM
Pretty sure the money is because Hugh Taylor put it up and seems very sweet on it

You wouldnt want to pick the winner of this for your life a maiden were a fair few are trying/have group entries


Same as Marky, hadn't read Hugh. Pretty sure his festival record isn't up to much, so one opinion I dont bother with/worry about if I miss reading it during big meets. Easy enough to be influenced as it is. Just read it and like you say, its probably why theres money. Just noticed though that Buick in his column was v keen on Swot.

Rest assured, I won't be having anything near a point each way on my staking scale on this race, let alone my life,  but thought it was worth a mention.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 22, 2014, 04:46:38 PM
Sturggling to see past the favourite in this race but, the price is skinny enough.  Had a small punt on the exchange on Muffarreh both win and place, bigger on the place than win part.  But only on for modest amounts.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 22, 2014, 04:50:50 PM
Ha did have a look at that but Cumani's record with first time out 2 year olds is generally poor.  And Ryan is my least fav jockey so was the first one on the short list of possible outsiders to be scrubbed. 

Unlucky Adz. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 22, 2014, 04:51:03 PM
dont get Ryan winning on maidens at those prices much

Paddock expert Ken Pitterson before the race "next years horse not ready for today at all"


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 22, 2014, 04:54:05 PM
dont get Ryan winning on maidens at those prices much

Paddock expert Ken Pitterson before the race "next years horse not ready for today at all"


As I've said on many occassions, the man has the best job in the world and hasn't got a clue.

Still, a few more shekels in the bank for the Second Place King!! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 22, 2014, 05:15:09 PM
Paul Morrison just as bad on RUK

every race today he has put the favourite forward as "looking best" i really struggle to believe that if he didnt have the racecard and/or betting he would come up with the same



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 22, 2014, 05:23:32 PM
The mighty Black Doug finally rewards patience and even got Tadalavil  for the FC.  ;) ;bigadz; (i was due)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 22, 2014, 05:23:51 PM
Thought Tadalavil was worth a chance at 16-1 4.50 Newcastle, seemed to me to be running on well on his last couple of attempts at 5f before a poor run last time over 6f up in class on soft. Had a small e/w bet.

More place money ran well , but well beaten in 2nd


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 22, 2014, 05:27:43 PM
Then back to standard Perfect P finishes 4th and paying 3.

Rollercoaster


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 22, 2014, 05:46:42 PM
Probably worth having a reasonable ew bet on Battersea in the 2.40 at York tomorrow. Strong form with Maid in Rio. Given a decent break to recover and money starting to come in already

7-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 22, 2014, 10:31:50 PM
As a fanboy I will have to back Moonraker in the 4.25 York tomorrow, think he has massive scope to improve and really hope he gives a good account of himself.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 22, 2014, 11:11:45 PM
Also have a funny feeling that Fiery Sunset 40/1 may run a big race for Her Maj tomorrow in the 2.40 at York


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 23, 2014, 11:18:46 AM
Just Great Hall for me today in the Ebor (other than BE)

Backed it last time when very weak in market on debut for John Quinn after being with the hapless Brian Meehan, ran really well still a touch quirky had more time with Quinn now and 25-1 is bigger than i expected



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 23, 2014, 11:42:14 AM
Would love to see Clever Cookie win the Ebor. Has been an absolute star for a few of us on here, but three today

Mighty Yar- Ebor

American Hope 2.55

Alex My Boy 4.40

Be Lucky


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: HutchGF on August 23, 2014, 11:44:13 AM
I'm at York today. I haven't got a clue with the horses tbh so any tips would be greatly appreciated. Got about £250 to spin up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 23, 2014, 11:46:11 AM
Got a bit discouraged yesterday after spending some time on the first race and getting 4 of the six horses I either bet or mentioned in the first 6, but only one 4th place of those I actually bet. Going to go a lot easier today, other than Moonraker and Fiery Sunset already mentioned, I have bet:

Llanarmon Lad York 17:00 8/1 e/w
Suegioo York 15:50  40/1 e/w
Jungle Cat York 15:15 8/1 e/w
Lady Lara York 14:05  16/1 small win bet - felt this had to be overpriced despite not being a huge fancy
Penhill York 14:40    12/1 e/w
Mighty Yar York 15:50  9/1 e/w
Aussie Reigns York 15:50  40/1  5 places e/w b365

(prices might be from a few hours ago)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 23, 2014, 12:08:28 PM
Couple more for ya

Get the 5/2 Annippe 4.20 Curragh

Bow creek ew Good 3.30


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 23, 2014, 12:33:07 PM
Managed to get 25/1 on Van Percy straight after he won at Goodwood, and backed Ted Veale today.

14:05 - Farraj (In a few multiples last night)

14:40 - Adventure Seeker + Innocent Touch

15:15 -  Glenalmond in case Hugh picked one out

15:50 - Ted Veale

17:00 - Queensberry Rules (Although it's full of trackered horses)


Tracker Trixie

16:30 - Basil Berry
17:00 - Ajman Bridge
19:00 - Karaka Jack


Berry up 4lbs, but still looks in with a shout.

Ajman is short, but has gone close twice.

Karaka Jack has been running reasonably well, and has continued to slide down the weights.


Good luck chaps.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 23, 2014, 12:38:01 PM
I'm at York today. I haven't got a clue with the horses tbh so any tips would be greatly appreciated. Got about £250 to spin up.

Make sure you don't mind spinning the £250 down if you back any of mine  ;).   Have a great day and be lucky.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 23, 2014, 12:44:10 PM
Surprised Fiery Sunset is now as short as 25-1 , there's a lot of negatives to go with the things to like about this horse, wouldn't want to get involved at that price


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 23, 2014, 01:08:20 PM
2.45 Nmkt   Sunset Sail  Made up a huge amount of ground finishing really strongly at Gdwd 6f, despite being slightly checked starting his run, definitely going to give him a chance at 7f at 13/2 e/w

edit:   too late for me , but win only probably better despite ok e/w race


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 23, 2014, 03:14:18 PM
Contagious, Adz...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 23, 2014, 03:58:28 PM
Couple more for ya

Get the 5/2 Annippe 4.20 Curragh

Bow creek ew Good 3.30


Freerolling the biggies now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 23, 2014, 03:59:04 PM
well done Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 23, 2014, 04:47:48 PM
Couple more for ya

Get the 5/2 Annippe 4.20 Curragh

Bow creek ew Good 3.30


Freerolling the biggies now.



Jubbbbbbbly.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 23, 2014, 04:55:16 PM
Nice run from Moonraker and not the clearest passage - value pie served up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 23, 2014, 05:00:01 PM
Nice one Adz, not sure how I missed that  >:(


Nice run from Moonraker and not the clearest passage - value pie served up

Very unlucky mate, bashed all over the place, and still only just gets beat by Spencer...

Had that as the first in a couple trixies, so hopefully the other 2 don't win!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 23, 2014, 05:02:01 PM
Couple more for ya

Get the 5/2 Annippe 4.20 Curragh

Bow creek ew Good 3.30


Freerolling the biggies now.



Jubbbbbbbly.

well done again, didnt see race but must admit didnt fancy it against Great War.  Thx for Bow Creek though


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 23, 2014, 05:10:47 PM
Couple more for ya

Get the 5/2 Annippe 4.20 Curragh

Bow creek ew Good 3.30


Freerolling the biggies now.



Jubbbbbbbly.

Boomio


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 23, 2014, 05:24:21 PM
pls dont send Llanarmon Lad off as fav - don't want the weight of the scoop 6 money on its back...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 23, 2014, 05:29:16 PM
Managed to get 25/1 on Van Percy straight after he won at Goodwood, and backed Ted Veale today.

14:05 - Farraj (In a few multiples last night)

14:40 - Adventure Seeker + Innocent Touch

15:15 -  Glenalmond in case Hugh picked one out

15:50 - Ted Veale

17:00 - Queensberry Rules (Although it's full of trackered horses)


Tracker Trixie

16:30 - Basil Berry
17:00 - Ajman Bridge
19:00 - Karaka Jack


Berry up 4lbs, but still looks in with a shout.

Ajman is short, but has gone close twice.

Karaka Jack has been running reasonably well, and has continued to slide down the weights.


Good luck chaps.


Talked me into a little f/c there too bud. TYVM. ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 23, 2014, 05:30:11 PM
Well done, chaps.

Had a forecast on Van Persy to beat Elidor. Would have been nice.

Anyone would think there's a reason these things are 300/1. ::)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 23, 2014, 05:34:20 PM
Talked me into a little f/c there too bud. TYVM. ;applause;

LOL, fuck off mate :D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 23, 2014, 05:41:25 PM
Spirit Of The Law (13) 
Queensberry Rules (6) 
Forecast Singles,  2  bets * £2.50     
23/08/2014 16:46:31   

Cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 23, 2014, 06:17:45 PM
I was telling you to fuck off, for aftertiming... Not suggesting you hadn't somehow done the forecast  :D

Nice one!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 23, 2014, 06:19:42 PM
LOL, Either way, it was a pleasure.

Look forward to our next chat. x


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 23, 2014, 09:08:44 PM
LOL, Either way, it was a pleasure.

Look forward to our next chat. x

Broken clock is only right twice a day mate, going on the last few weeks, you're best steering clear of me for a while ;D

Had Karaka Jack in that trixie, and was going to back it as a single once it went down. Brother leaves his mate in the office while he gets ready, and I miss the race...

Ah well, roll on the St Leger meeting for another 3 day fix!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 23, 2014, 10:48:31 PM
Arrowzone running tomorrow in the 1525 at Beverley, and the old bridesmaid General Tufto is in action in the last at Yarmouth, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 23, 2014, 10:52:18 PM
Couple more for ya

Get the 5/2 Annippe 4.20 Curragh

Bow creek ew Good 3.30


Freerolling the biggies now.



Jubbbbbbbly.

Boomio

Well done mate, for some reason I done the first and completey missed the second, first world problems hey!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 23, 2014, 11:39:21 PM
LOL, Either way, it was a pleasure.

Look forward to our next chat. x

Broken clock is only right twice a day mate, going on the last few weeks, you're best steering clear of me for a while ;D

Had Karaka Jack in that trixie, and was going to back it as a single once it went down. Brother leaves his mate in the office while he gets ready, and I miss the race...

Ah well, roll on the St Leger meeting for another 3 day fix!


Bugger. Didn't i put this up last time, and totally missed it. Teach me to go out. UL bud


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 24, 2014, 12:11:16 AM
I've had it in my tracker since last year, but it could well have been.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 24, 2014, 11:07:56 AM
All of these are win bets at minimal stakes, couldn't find anything that interested me much...

Eastern Racer 8/1  Beverley 16:00 well drawn, ran a good race at Chester from a poor draw. willing to forgive poor run in better race last time at the prices
Indaria 4/1  Beverley 16:00  Obv speed/draw/form claims    ( done these two as a rev f/c )

Tioga Pass 12/1  Goodwood 16:45  Gone up the weights after impressive win in May, looked a bit awkward at times, not impossible a short layoff and blinkers will revitalise

Madeed 3/1  Goodwood 15:05  A few threats, but decent course form and looked the most likely winner to me


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on August 24, 2014, 11:21:43 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/leisure/11052183/Is-horse-racing-entering-the-final-furlong.html


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on August 24, 2014, 11:48:17 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/leisure/11052183/Is-horse-racing-entering-the-final-furlong.html

Too many poor quality meetings with small fields and punter friendly %'s with plenty of non triers in them.  These races were desigined to increase the product for betting shops but it's actually had the opposite effect.  Casual punters are turned off by the constant stream of low grade racing.  The owners/trainers pretty much have to land touches to fund the game becuase the prize money is so poor which in turn massively reduces the margin bookmakers make out of the vast majority of racing.  If you add in the price war on odds checker most days of firms trying to go top price every runner/money back offers/5 places in races etc etc it's pretty obvious to anyone with a business brain on why racing margin's are falling like a stone with bookmakers and they are no longer that bothered about the product outside of the big festivals.

The other thing to remember about off course betting turnover and it's slump in the last 5 years per the article is how much 'arbing' volume that used to contain every day in 2009 which firms are eventually stopped taking towards the end of the 5 year period.  I was probably turning over with off course firms (amongst numerous other full time arbers then who don't arb horses or bet horses at all now in 2014) purely arbing in excess of £50k a day (£15-£20m a year) turnover at zero risk (it sounds a lot but it isn't when you are investing every race on a race by race basis and there are 40/50 races a day in the summer months.  Some of the bigger arbers with teams of people putting on around the shops must have been turning over ten times that.  It's also a reason why betfair's liquidity for horse races has fallen/not grown over the years because a big % of liquidity in those days came from arbers via the firms.

On course layer Geoff Banks writes a great blog on such issues and really gets it.


http://geoffbanksracing.wordpress.com/2014/06/28/a-blueprint-for-racing/


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: redarmi on August 24, 2014, 12:02:05 PM
The bookmakers complaining about the state of UK racing is laughable.  They act as though it has nothing to do with them.  Without betting racing would, at best be a niche sport and if the books put even a fraction of the energy that they put into innovation in other products into their racing product then perhaps it would have a future but the fact is that they treat racing like the red headed step child that ideally they would like to go away.  Do they really think trivialising racing by introducing virtual racing in their shops and promoting it as though it was as good as the real thing is good for the product?  Do they think relocating a big part of their businesses to the UK to screw down the levy was good for racing?  Do they think refusing even trivial bets is good for the future of the sport?  They want the benefits of the sport but they don't want to share the workload and the cost.   Ideally they would like to see it run like Bags dog racing w ie run entirely for their benefit with guaranteed margins etc at empty stadiums.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on August 24, 2014, 05:53:38 PM
If I had one wish it would be to back one winner less than Adz every week for a year. No wonder the guy is buying property.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 24, 2014, 06:29:30 PM
If I had one wish it would be to back one winner less than Adz every week for a year. No wonder the guy is buying property.


Haha.

My apols all. Told phil 5 horses last nite and forgot to post as had more mother outlaw birthday celebrations so been busy all day, after a few too many last nite. Needless to say three won at 9-1, 8-1, 7-1, advised prices.

Not meant to aftertime, just explain his comment.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 24, 2014, 06:30:40 PM
If I had one wish it would be to back one winner less than Adz every week for a year. No wonder the guy is buying property.


Haha.

My apols all. Told phil 5 horses last nite and forgot to post as had more mother outlaw birthday celebrations so been busy all day, after a few too many last nite. Needless to say three won at 9-1, 8-1, 7-1, advised prices.

Not meant to aftertime, just explain his comment.

#teammaths


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 24, 2014, 06:50:31 PM
Try Seeking Magic tomorrow 3.10 Epsom. Some 7s still left.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 25, 2014, 10:33:15 AM
Two at prices today

4.45 RIPON Norse Blues at 14's. Got a very poor ride at Ayr two starts back and then made a very quick re appearance when very weak in the market and gave no running. Track, handicap mark and ground perfect (checked the radars Ripon avoiding the rain today) tough race obviously.

5.05 CHEPSTOW Cant have Fury or Jacks Revenge at the prices so this suddenly opens up, have doubts if VERSE OF LOVE is quite good enough but has the crucial course and distance form around here and last two runs at Chester easily excused (car park both times). The rain is a benefit but any ground is fine, again around 14/1

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 25, 2014, 12:27:54 PM
If I had one wish it would be to back one winner less than Adz every week for a year. No wonder the guy is buying property.


Haha.

My apols all. Told phil 5 horses last nite and forgot to post as had more mother outlaw birthday celebrations so been busy all day, after a few too many last nite. Needless to say three won at 9-1, 8-1, 7-1, advised prices.

Not meant to aftertime, just explain his comment.

#teammaths

That's just great, post all your 2nd's in the thread, keep all the winners, do we need to pay to get them?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 25, 2014, 12:28:49 PM
If I had one wish it would be to back one winner less than Adz every week for a year. No wonder the guy is buying property.


Haha.

My apols all. Told phil 5 horses last nite and forgot to post as had more mother outlaw birthday celebrations so been busy all day, after a few too many last nite. Needless to say three won at 9-1, 8-1, 7-1, advised prices.

Not meant to aftertime, just explain his comment.

#teammaths

That's just great, post all your 2nd's in the thread, keep all the winners, do we need to pay to get them?

Forgot to add  ;) and ( ;bigadz; )


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on August 25, 2014, 01:09:24 PM
Think Divertimenti could be worth keeping on side today in the 3:05 at Warwick.  He has C&D form and he looked to be back in love with the game after recent success at Nottingham, at 10 its unlikely he will improve but he likes to ball along and could get an easy enough lead and if he does you never know what will happen.  I have backed it to small stakes e/w @ 9/1 on Laddies.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 25, 2014, 02:05:48 PM
Try Seeking Magic tomorrow 3.10 Epsom. Some 7s still left.

Looking at this race Taurus Twins caught my eye, Front-runner, beat some decent types in this grade at Nottingham as recently as July and should appreciate the softening ground.  Just got matched at 30-1 on Betdaq - might try and lay in running if he gets away well.

Please feel free to critique, you may save me a few quid if it continues to drift and I decide to back it e/w.

Anyway, was bored on a rainy bank holiday and threw it in my muggy e/w Lucky 31, theme of which was to try and find a few who might go ok if the rain got in the ground
15:05
WARWICK
Horse Racing Outright - Race
ITALIAN TOM   10/1   Standard EW terms apply   None   Unsettled
14:50
NEWCASTLE
Horse Racing Outright - Race
CONRY   5/1   Standard EW terms apply   None   Unsettled
17:10
NEWCASTLE
Horse Racing Outright - Race
WOR LASS   6/1   Standard EW terms apply   None   Unsettled
15:10
EPSOM DOWNS
Horse Racing Outright - Race
TAURUS TWINS   16/1   Standard EW terms apply   None   Unsettled
16:20
EPSOM DOWNS
Horse Racing Outright - Race
LADY OF YUE   9/2   Standard EW terms apply   None   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 25, 2014, 02:12:48 PM
All of these are win bets at minimal stakes, couldn't find anything that interested me much...

Eastern Racer 8/1  Beverley 16:00 well drawn, ran a good race at Chester from a poor draw. willing to forgive poor run in better race last time at the prices
Indaria 4/1  Beverley 16:00  Obv speed/draw/form claims    ( done these two as a rev f/c )

Tioga Pass 12/1  Goodwood 16:45  Gone up the weights after impressive win in May, looked a bit awkward at times, not impossible a short layoff and blinkers will revitalise

Madeed 3/1  Goodwood 15:05  A few threats, but decent course form and looked the most likely winner to me

Got to be honest and admit I completely ballsed up in the first bet and forgot about the stalls being reversed at Beverley. Was quite content with the other two, even though they both came second. Tioga Pass especially, only failing by a neck @ 12-1, was I thought a decent value bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 25, 2014, 02:32:58 PM
If I had one wish it would be to back one winner less than Adz every week for a year. No wonder the guy is buying property.


Haha.

My apols all. Told phil 5 horses last nite and forgot to post as had more mother outlaw birthday celebrations so been busy all day, after a few too many last nite. Needless to say three won at 9-1, 8-1, 7-1, advised prices.

Not meant to aftertime, just explain his comment.

#teammaths

That's just great, post all your 2nd's in the thread, keep all the winners, do we need to pay to get them?


LOL, wouldnt that be nice!

A few more if you're playing

Crysdal 5.20 Ripon

Killing Time ew

Haafaguinea


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 25, 2014, 03:41:53 PM
Try Seeking Magic tomorrow 3.10 Epsom. Some 7s still left.

Looking at this race Taurus Twins caught my eye, Front-runner, beat some decent types in this grade at Nottingham as recently as July and should appreciate the softening ground.  Just got matched at 30-1 on Betdaq - might try and lay in running if he gets away well.

Please feel free to critique, you may save me a few quid if it continues to drift and I decide to back it e/w.
   
Plan worked ok the way the race panned out, had ended up backing it e/w as well and got matched in running at 12 for a decent freeroll on the win


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 25, 2014, 03:56:56 PM
Don't know if any of you follow Raceclear but they are pretty decent (had 2/2 today, not on of course) positive ROI majority of months. Anyway, worth a look everyday if only to enhance your own choices. (They are free even if you sign up, make their money by affiliate deals)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 25, 2014, 04:13:22 PM
Jeez... He has even infected Bobby now!

Well done you aftertiming twats boys ;D

Feeling that lethargic I can't even be bothered to trawl through Oddschecker to place a bet today, but good luck gents!



Cheers for the heads up on the site, will have a look later.

One I used to follow when I had more time was http://www.getyour-tipsout.co.uk/

Not been on in a while, but another fella I know uses their tips for his lucky 15 perms, and says he's had a few touches on them. They did display all their results, so everything is out in the open for public viewing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on August 25, 2014, 10:22:37 PM
Too many aftertimers in this thread, makes reading it too tilting. Adz is the worst.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 25, 2014, 10:25:44 PM
Pretty sure Norse Blues is being waited with for something, very uninspiring ride again today. On the other side the mark is fine now and it was a valuable handicap so not sure maybe just gone at the game.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 25, 2014, 10:38:55 PM
Too many aftertimers in this thread, makes reading it too tilting. Adz is the worst.

Did you forget to put a smiley at the end of this?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 25, 2014, 11:03:47 PM
Too many aftertimers in this thread, makes reading it too tilting. Adz is the worst.


I can only try my best to help. Its amazing how many people wanna give you grief for it too. I put up stuff I hope will make a profit for those that follow. Sorry if I don't post everything, but I don't really see why I should tbh. I think if you backed everything I have posted on this thread you would be doing more than ok. Obviously not enough for some.

I genuinely try and post the bits I think have the best chance of winning. Sorry if this offends when I don't put up the right one for absolutely nothing/no charge/nada/zipo/free.


Must do better. :dontask:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 25, 2014, 11:14:40 PM
Can't please everyone, Adz.

(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Wenger.gif)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on August 25, 2014, 11:18:44 PM
Can't please everyone, Adz.

(http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Wenger.gif)

lolz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 25, 2014, 11:56:30 PM
You helmet, Adz!

You'll never get grief for a losing tip here, but you get hammered for aftertiming, as you know...

We all know you're a very good tipster, and an incredible aftertimer ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 26, 2014, 02:18:59 AM
Funniest thing is, Tal has obviously been sat waiting for months with his little gif at the ready, praying for me to throw a hissy at some point so he can use it. :D

Waiting, waiting, waiting.

Naturally then, "Chicken Dinner" pops up like Mr Benn's shopkeeper. Classic.

Glad to be of service Laddies.  8) ;)




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 26, 2014, 07:39:26 AM
Funniest thing is, Tal has obviously been sat waiting for months with his little gif at the ready, praying for me to throw a hissy at some point so he can use it. :D

Waiting, waiting, waiting.

Naturally then, "Chicken Dinner" pops up like Mr Benn's shopkeeper. Classic.

Glad to be of service Laddies.  8) ;)


Definitely my fault, yep. :D

The Wenger gifs are easier to find than a coffee on a high street.

Keep tipping stuff. There is only one BigAdz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 26, 2014, 09:26:06 AM
3.25 Epsom Links Drive Lady  7/1 PP   13/2 B365 (4/1 offer race)  I thought her second to Forest Edge last time out, who has since gone on to score again in a better race, reads pretty well in this admittedly trappy race.  Obviously will love conditions.
 
edit: fav at time of writing now non-runner, so wouldnt take much to go off sub 4-1 reducing value from offer


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 26, 2014, 01:46:27 PM
3.25 Epsom Links Drive Lady  7/1 PP   13/2 B365 (4/1 offer race)  I thought her second to Forest Edge last time out, who has since gone on to score again in a better race, reads pretty well in this admittedly trappy race.  Obviously will love conditions.
 
edit: fav at time of writing now non-runner, so wouldnt take much to go off sub 4-1 reducing value from offer


Six N/Rs and you can still make 6/1

What do you reckon now Simon?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 26, 2014, 03:05:37 PM
Not loving that the market disagrees with me, but seems to me she should be competitive unless doesn't handle the track. Ok runs at Goodwood and Lingfield in the past suggest she should?
Don't feel strongly enough about it to want to add to my position


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Killerkilsby on August 26, 2014, 11:45:17 PM
Forgot to mention I had backed Mk Dons 4-0 tonight


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 27, 2014, 10:40:53 AM
Like Bahamian C in the 4.00 Carlisle I just took 7/2 with WHill but think 3-1 is fine.  Think you have to take him at the weights, speed ratings very competitive if you allow for last run on Gd/sft which would not have been ideal. btm weight and 3lb claimer, icing on the cake is Fahey is firing in plenty of winners at the moment.
There's a few in this who pop up from time to time that you couldn't rule out, Lord of the dance is one, but couldn't have them at these prices


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 27, 2014, 02:49:06 PM
8.25 Kempton Sir Frank Morgan runs after a strong performance at York last week, just failing to place at a big price having tried to make all. He has like clockwork been throwing in a stinker after each good run. Not loving laying him at around 3-1 fav , but BVictor offer a market without 2nd fav Perfect Summer and I've backed See And Be Seen at 5/2 who has been by contrast a model of consistency.
I guess I'm bound to get egg on my face sooner or later, but I'm intrigued to see whether or for how long the pattern with Sir Frank holds up .


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 31, 2014, 08:26:28 AM


Anyone heard from simonnataur or Adzy?

Neither have posted for some days now, which is quite unusual.

Hope both are well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rubbish2407 on August 31, 2014, 08:39:19 AM
I guess the comment at the top of this page might have something to do with them not posting. Guess they're PM'ing each other, can't blame them. Shame as they were on quite a heater.

Feel free to PM me as well guys if you are  ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 31, 2014, 08:49:51 AM
I guess the comment at the top of this page might have something to do with them not posting. Guess they're PM'ing each other, can't blame them. Shame as they were on quite a heater.

Feel free to PM me as well guys if you are  ;)

Well I hope that's not the case, but you may be right. It's the nature of forums though, we all get a bit of stick now & then.

Anyway, as long as both are not unwell, that was my point. 

I've since checked, & both have logged on during their absence, so we can assume both are OK.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 31, 2014, 11:51:37 AM


News reaches me that Adzy is in France again, buying up more swathes of real estate, but he'll be back home soon.

So at least he is fit & well, though probably potless now.

Anyone heard from simonnatur? Not being nosy, just odd that he has not been around, he generally posts every day. Not that we miss him, but we need some winners.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on August 31, 2014, 05:47:24 PM


News reaches me that Adzy is in France again, buying up more swathes of real estate, but he'll be back home soon.

So at least he is fit & well, though probably potless now.

Anyone heard from simonnatur? Not being nosy, just odd that he has not been around, he generally posts every day. Not that we miss him, but we need some winners.....

Think Simons last few picks have gone "tits up"

You cant win em all but best to lay off a little when yonder isn't visible


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 03, 2014, 09:21:43 AM


Morning.

Several folks have PM'd me to ask why this thread seems to have gone quiet, it has been very popular with nearly 2,000 Posts & 40,000 views in just over a year,

Truth is, I don't know, but we can't force folks to Post.

horsey started it, & used to be prolific, but he has a "proper job" these days, & as he can no longer follow Racing as closely as he used to, he does not like the responsibility of posting without his full quota of info & inside knowledge.

Adzy, as we now know, has been preoccupied with his Chateau in France, and his work for the Arsene Appreciation Society, but fingers crossed he will resume duties again soon.
 
I don't know why simonnatur is not currently posting, he still logs onto blonde daily though, so hopefully he is fit & well.

We can so easily take threads like this for granted, & those who post on them, but we soon miss them once they go AWOL.

Anyway, all is not lost, we still have Marky.......;)

   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 03, 2014, 09:49:16 AM
Morning.

I am now up and fully working IT wise down here in sunny La Roch.

What bliss to watch Racing Uk on the lappie yesterday!

Not sure why its gone so quiet on the thread when it was buzzing two weeks ago?

Anyway, its a truly dreadful days racing but I thought The Strig in the last at Bath maybe worth an interest, especially if there is a splash of cash.

Very much a job horse for Stuart Williams he is now in the care of Nigel Tinkler, who also takes the money home more often than not when it is down.

Interesting weekend ahead. Be lucky.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 03, 2014, 09:51:43 AM
Morning.

I am now up and fully working IT wise down here in sunny La Roch.

What bliss to watch Racing Uk on the lappie yesterday!

Not sure why its gone so quiet on the thread when it was buzzing two weeks ago?

Anyway, its a truly dreadful days racing but I thought The Strig in the last at Bath maybe worth an interest, especially if there is a splash of cash.

Very much a job horse for Stuart Williams he is now in the care of Nigel Tinkler, who also takes the money home more often than not when it is down.

Interesting weekend ahead. Be lucky.

GIQ, ffs.......;)

No, I don't know either, maybe it will return to its former glories again soon. 

Weird thing, forum threads, even the best ones need "working" to keep them fresh & active.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 04, 2014, 09:36:30 AM

Laytown today what a great day out for those folks...enjoy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 04, 2014, 10:00:16 AM
Morning Trev.

Always looks great fun. I always try one race each year and don't think I have ever have a winner yet.

Today, the donkey I shall go for is Olive in the third race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 04, 2014, 10:04:11 AM
Thanks for the concern Tikay, just a long weekend away. Back to business now, I'm going to use a 1-5 point scale going forward:

2.30 Haydock     Looking for a horse that stays further ideally, stats strongly suggest a high draw is favoured, Hostile Fire 6/1 3pts e/w is in good form and seems to fit the bill perfectly to me. will also bet No Poppy 8/1 1pt e/w   and a very speculative 0.5pt e/w Berlusca 16/1 who ran a decent last race at York, but guessing whether he'll perform on this surface. Obviously hoping 12 line up, maybe worth holding off till lunchtime to be reasonably sure.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 04, 2014, 10:23:52 AM
Thanks for the concern Tikay, just a long weekend away. Back to business now, I'm going to use a 1-5 point scale going forward:

2.30 Haydock     Looking for a horse that stays further ideally, stats strongly suggest a high draw is favoured, Hostile Fire 6/1 3pts e/w is in good form and seems to fit the bill perfectly to me. will also bet No Poppy 8/1 1pt e/w   and a very speculative 0.5pt e/w Berlusca 16/1 who ran a decent last race at York, but guessing whether he'll perform on this surface. Obviously hoping 12 line up, maybe worth holding off till lunchtime to be reasonably sure.



Did you have a pass? Next time, ask.

PS - Good to see all is well, & you are back amongst us. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 04, 2014, 10:42:24 AM
Thanks for the concern Tikay, just a long weekend away. Back to business now, I'm going to use a 1-5 point scale going forward:

2.30 Haydock     Looking for a horse that stays further ideally, stats strongly suggest a high draw is favoured, Hostile Fire 6/1 3pts e/w is in good form and seems to fit the bill perfectly to me. will also bet No Poppy 8/1 1pt e/w   and a very speculative 0.5pt e/w Berlusca 16/1 who ran a decent last race at York, but guessing whether he'll perform on this surface. Obviously hoping 12 line up, maybe worth holding off till lunchtime to be reasonably sure.


High numbers defo not favoured over round 1m at Haddock sir. Not sure they'll be going much pace in here and We'll Shake Hands might get an easy lead, but wouldn't put you off any of those three.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on September 04, 2014, 10:47:04 AM
Hi Simon,always happy for any tips this weekend....... if you fancy it  :)

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=64224.0


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 04, 2014, 11:03:25 AM
GL with those Simon.

I was very keen on a few quid on Woody Bay in that race on his first turn out for Mark Walford. Owner looked to have two in its last race and was going to sell which ever was beat the most. Had a rough passage and thought it was one to note. Back to a winnable mark and been running ok. Draw puts me off a bit, but its been done before. At 25s, I can take a chance.

Very keen on following up New Providence at Salisbury. 9/2 looks ok.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 04, 2014, 11:26:53 AM
GL with those Simon.

I was very keen on a few quid on Woody Bay in that race on his first turn out for Mark Walford. Owner looked to have two in its last race and was going to sell which ever was beat the most. Had a rough passage and thought it was one to note. Back to a winnable mark and been running ok. Draw puts me off a bit, but its been done before. At 25s, I can take a chance.

Very keen on following up New Providence at Salisbury. 9/2 looks ok.


Got to like someone who has got the balls to put up second outsider of twelve at 25s

Tough race


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 04, 2014, 11:53:16 AM
4.40 Haydock    Was unsure about betting e/w or win, in the end did my two stronger fancies e/w and win only saver bets on the other two. Will be a bit gutted if Xinbama gets his head in front today, since I dithered and didn't back at 10-1 last night and don't think there's much value at current 13/2.

Mister Fizz 20/1 1.5pts e/w
Kings Bayonet  22/1 1.5pts e/w
Nicholascopernicus   20/1  0.5 pt win
Dark Ruler  14/1   0.5 pt win
 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 04, 2014, 11:53:53 AM
GL with those Simon.

I was very keen on a few quid on Woody Bay in that race on his first turn out for Mark Walford. Owner looked to have two in its last race and was going to sell which ever was beat the most. Had a rough passage and thought it was one to note. Back to a winnable mark and been running ok. Draw puts me off a bit, but its been done before. At 25s, I can take a chance.

Very keen on following up New Providence at Salisbury. 9/2 looks ok.


Got to like someone who has got the balls to put up second outsider of twelve at 25s

Tough race

As you well know Trev, I make plenty of mistakes ;ashamed;, but in playing these sort of prices, Its been a long time since I can recall going 25 races without a winner. Close plenty of times! But, Im pretty sure I can get it right often enough to stay ahead of the game. Fingers crossed!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 04, 2014, 12:45:19 PM
GL with those Simon.

I was very keen on a few quid on Woody Bay in that race on his first turn out for Mark Walford. Owner looked to have two in its last race and was going to sell which ever was beat the most. Had a rough passage and thought it was one to note. Back to a winnable mark and been running ok. Draw puts me off a bit, but its been done before. At 25s, I can take a chance.

Very keen on following up New Providence at Salisbury. 9/2 looks ok.


Got to like someone who has got the balls to put up second outsider of twelve at 25s

Tough race

As you well know Trev, I make plenty of mistakes ;ashamed;, but in playing these sort of prices, Its been a long time since I can recall going 25 races without a winner. Close plenty of times! But, Im pretty sure I can get it right often enough to stay ahead of the game. Fingers crossed!

We all get it wrong at times impossible not toooooo

This country is good at knocking someone that tries and fails when most have not got the courage to even have a go

The funny thing is that this country is also good at knocking someone that is successful

Funny world


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 04, 2014, 12:53:17 PM
had a little study up today.

2.40 maftoon, if blinkers do the trick this will take a lot of beating, has some smart maiden form and doesnt look a strong race
4.05 unforgiving minute is very interesting here. well bet and overcame all sorts to win on debut and straight into a classified event
                                  instead of a handicap, seems clive cox seems very fond of this one, 6/1 worth small bet

5.50 southern cross, would like to see a bit of money but mark seems reasonable and has improved on every run in maidens and
                              again weak race and any further improvement for the extra furlong surely sees her in the frame



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 04, 2014, 01:12:35 PM
A rare bet in a maiden for me today in the opener at Haydock

The fav is a Stoute thing who looks green, well touted and slow to learn, the fact it has a lot of big entries means they hold it in some regard but is never the type to be overpriced. The next in is trained by Charlie Appleby, to say he has started a bit slowly at Godolphin is an understatement. Having said that debut run was good and should go close but again at the price not for me.

Have backed LORD BEN STACK at around 13/2 , perfectly good debut here in a race that is already looking strong. Draw not ideal but in a maiden thats not a factor for me. Most importantly Karl Burke is running at 20% SECOND timeout over the last five seasons with a massive roi of around 55% (nearly 200 runners so a big enough sample for this race type)

This suggests he is underrated by the market, often as in this scenario against higher profile trainers.

gd lk all



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 04, 2014, 01:27:45 PM
Mr Trigg, welcome Sir!

Good to have you on board. My little man in the know has also suggested bets on the first two, which helps, and he has suggested I have a goodly bet on Charlottes Lad tonite at Wolves.

Drifted like a barge, but with Prescott, so who knows. GL Mr T


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 04, 2014, 01:32:44 PM
5.10 haydock .  Not allocating points to this but thought betting Frosty Berry and A Little bit Dusty, both around 6/1 e/w against a seemingly out of form fav in a weak looking race wouldn't be terrible. Anyone any thoughts?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 04, 2014, 01:34:57 PM
5.10 haydock .  Not allocating points to this but thought betting Frosty Berry and A Little bit Dusty, both around 6/1 e/w against a seemingly out of form fav in a weak looking race wouldn't be terrible. Anyone any thoughts?

Would not be for me. Merchant of Medici hates winning is a dog but nearly always runs a place in these heats. The Ducking Stool is a grand old stick around Yarmouth and consistent enough.

A fair bit of depth imo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 04, 2014, 02:28:49 PM
oioi lord ben wp horseplayer


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 04, 2014, 02:32:02 PM
N1 Horsey. Sadly didn't follow you as didnt bet but cheered it home!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 04, 2014, 02:35:57 PM
oioi lord ben wp horseplayer

+1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 04, 2014, 02:37:44 PM
cheers gents

Lovely performance, Stoute thing will be odds on next time did what it has done twice before though


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 04, 2014, 02:55:08 PM
nice way to start the day - thankyou Horsey


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 04, 2014, 02:57:32 PM
Nice one Simon!

Gd run Adz tricast beaten them all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 04, 2014, 02:58:10 PM
Nice one Simon!

Gd run Adz tricast beaten them all

+1 again


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 04, 2014, 03:04:40 PM
Nice one again Simon. Cracking 1-2

Enhancing our claim to be the most profitable Blonde thread! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 04, 2014, 04:54:56 PM
GL with those Simon.

I was very keen on a few quid on Woody Bay in that race on his first turn out for Mark Walford. Owner looked to have two in its last race and was going to sell which ever was beat the most. Had a rough passage and thought it was one to note. Back to a winnable mark and been running ok. Draw puts me off a bit, but its been done before. At 25s, I can take a chance.

Very keen on following up New Providence at Salisbury. 9/2 looks ok.


Not quite in Simons league but happy to take a 25-1 place and 9/2 winner. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 04, 2014, 05:05:17 PM
nice one adz

pleasing day all round


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 04, 2014, 05:21:00 PM


Great work all round, Gents.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: scotty2hatty on September 04, 2014, 05:27:36 PM
Nice one again Simon. Cracking 1-2

Enhancing our claim to be the most profitable Blonde thread! ;)

dogs v horses challenge


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 04, 2014, 05:31:00 PM
Nice one again Simon. Cracking 1-2

Enhancing our claim to be the most profitable Blonde thread! ;)

dogs v horses challenge

Not even close pal!

Or vaguely level playing field. Six max runners every race.....easy game. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: scotty2hatty on September 04, 2014, 06:30:17 PM
Nice one again Simon. Cracking 1-2

Enhancing our claim to be the most profitable Blonde thread! ;)

dogs v horses challenge

Not even close pal!

Or vaguely level playing field. Six max runners every race.....easy game. ;)

you're lucky you added that wink at the end


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 04, 2014, 08:11:00 PM
didn't back a single horse from this today as i've been busy, just got online in time to read this thread and quickly go to betfair to get some on adz's mans horse at wolves, race went off just seconds before it could, watched the odds in running drop like a stone, a little tiltedly but glad for whoever got on! Your man knows his stuff adz, as do you, so keep posting please, and congrats to horsey for his pick and the rest of you, still in fine form! hopefully i'l take advantage this tomorrow and Saturday and  build some spending money for my holiday on Sunday.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 04, 2014, 08:18:44 PM
and a Sir Mark drifter to round off the day!

great stuff


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 04, 2014, 11:15:51 PM
8-1, Charlottes.......SCOOP!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 04, 2014, 11:27:33 PM

Cracking stuff by the lads today, well done all.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 05, 2014, 12:21:58 AM
Top bombing guys, well done.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 05, 2014, 12:41:23 AM
Top bombing guys, well done.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 05, 2014, 08:29:13 AM

That was a good day

wdwdwd


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 05, 2014, 08:54:56 AM
Like SPIRITUAL STAR in the 5.50 at Kempton tonight

Small bet as horse is 1-19 career but imo has been setup for a touch of late (raced on wrong side at Newmarket alone last time) and has shown glimmers still in form. Main theory is last time on all weather albeit at Lingfield ran two good races from 10lbs higher than today. That was only earlier in the year and this is his first time back on the all weather since.

8/1 is worth taking


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on September 05, 2014, 09:14:10 AM
Like SPIRITUAL STAR in the 5.50 at Kempton tonight

Small bet as horse is 1-19 career but imo has been setup for a touch of late (raced on wrong side at Newmarket alone last time) and has shown glimmers still in form. Main theory is last time on all weather albeit at Lingfield ran two good races from 10lbs higher than today. That was only earlier in the year and this is his first time back on the all weather since.

8/1 is worth taking

That 8/1 sure lasted long....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 05, 2014, 11:42:11 AM
Been hoping to see Les Gar Gan stepped up to trips beyond a mile and they have gone for it in style today asking him to go to 1m4f when most he has gone is 1m1f. So a massive leap of faith is required to get involved, but you gotta trust your judgement. I have had a dabble at 10s, Make sure you get BOG.

Also had a decent ew bet on Cosette in last at Haydock at 5s. Again, should appreciate the step up in trip. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 05, 2014, 12:20:09 PM
7/2 now.... Would not touch it at that price when i started typing it was generally 10's


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 05, 2014, 01:03:05 PM
Thanks for the concern Tikay, just a long weekend away. Back to business now, I'm going to use a 1-5 point scale going forward:

2.30 Haydock     Looking for a horse that stays further ideally, stats strongly suggest a high draw is favoured, Hostile Fire 6/1 3pts e/w is in good form and seems to fit the bill perfectly to me. will also bet No Poppy 8/1 1pt e/w   and a very speculative 0.5pt e/w Berlusca 16/1 who ran a decent last race at York, but guessing whether he'll perform on this surface. Obviously hoping 12 line up, maybe worth holding off till lunchtime to be reasonably sure.


High numbers defo not favoured over round 1m at Haddock sir. Not sure they'll be going much pace in here and We'll Shake Hands might get an easy lead, but wouldn't put you off any of those three.

I took the following from drawbias.com "A very surprising result here. It seems to be a big advantage to be drawn high, and over a quarter of the races have been won by the horse drawn widest of all. This is the complete opposite to the 7 furlong analysis. Very strange?"

1234 result of this race for last 2 yrs in stall order (both winners 9-1 shots):

2014   9,8,11,7    12 ran
2013   9,2,3,11    12 ran


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 05, 2014, 01:47:25 PM
Sure to get the usual panning for saying this but...

I wonder if the level of info out there over the years, such as Chompys book, has actually helped to shift some of the outcomes. Bare with me here.

Equipped with all this draw knowledge, If the jockeys on the outside poorly drawn horses know they have to rush horses up to get the best position from the "wrong side", whilst those on the "good side" are sitting happy and complacent knowing they have the "good side", it can mean they basically get outridden and lose that rail/track bias.

I suspect in the years previous to all this info, there was a certain acceptance that if you were draw wide at Haydock you had no chance, for instance, and just used to amble to the inside behind the better drawn horses. Now, they formulate strategies a bit better and use up some early pace and catch the insider horses napping. Won't always happen, and some biases, like Chester and Beverley will always be much harder to overcome, of course.

Just a thought.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 05, 2014, 02:22:37 PM
Sure to get the usual panning for saying this but...

I wonder if the level of info out there over the years, such as Chompys book, has actually helped to shift some of the outcomes. Bare with me here.

Equipped with all this draw knowledge, If the jockeys on the outside poorly drawn horses know they have to rush horses up to get the best position from the "wrong side", whilst those on the "good side" are sitting happy and complacent knowing they have the "good side", it can mean they basically get outridden and lose that rail/track bias.

I suspect in the years previous to all this info, there was a certain acceptance that if you were draw wide at Haydock you had no chance, for instance, and just used to amble to the inside behind the better drawn horses. Now, they formulate strategies a bit better and use up some early pace and catch the insider horses napping. Won't always happen, and some biases, like Chester and Beverley will always be much harder to overcome, of course.

Just a thought.

Good post Adz

Also the trainers will have a large input when briefing the jockey especially if another race is its goal





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on September 05, 2014, 02:25:14 PM
I think the combo of race tactics plus draw leads to loads of variance.  A pace horse drawn wide is obv a disadvantage but a hold up horse drawn wide can be settled behind easily.  

Also on "This is the complete opposite to the 7 furlong analysis."  - the proximity to the first bend of the 7f start and the pace of the horses compared to the 8f could easily translate into the difference.  Going wide round a bend is def a disadvantage but the 8f start gives enough time to settle into position before the bend.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 05, 2014, 03:08:28 PM
Good posts have just dug up the stats for 7 furlongs only at Haydock from an A/E point of view (actual over expected)

Low 0.96
Mid 0.61
High 1.01

Anything above 0.9 is considered a fair marker anything nearing 1.00 or higher is performing to or above market expectation.



Note i have taken out maiden races as i dont class them as competitive enough to use data from and thats the last six years


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 05, 2014, 03:13:05 PM
Chester is interesting

Doubt there is anyone who even has half an interest in racing isnt aware of the low draw bias there, last ten years stats

Low 1.05
Mid 0.80
High 0.62

Thats from 5 furlongs to 7 furlongs


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on September 05, 2014, 03:21:40 PM

This is last ten years handicaps 10 or more runners

8f

Draw Range   Wins   Runs   Win%   Plc%   I.V.   A/E   £1 Win   ROI%
Low           31   425   7.3%   24.7%   0.89   0.71   £-195.59   -46.0%
Middle   42   454   9.3%   25.1%   1.13   0.91   £-75.78   -16.7%
High           41   510   8.0%   26.5%   0.98   0.90   £-26.50   -5.2%

7f

Draw Range   Wins   Runs   Win%   Plc%   I.V.   A/E   £1 Win   ROI%
Low           9   89   10.1%30.3%   1.16   0.84   £7.75    8.7%
Middle   6   94   6.4%   22.3%   0.74   0.62   £-58.50   -62.2%
High           10   105   9.5%   25.7%   1.10   1.08   £-20.62   -19.6%

Seems to be a lot less races over 7 so not sure if its reasonable to compare.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 05, 2014, 03:29:53 PM
No not so many over 7 when i double checked not enough to form a view imo

all interesting stuff though


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 05, 2014, 03:47:19 PM
Im not a great stat analyst but doesn't look enough in those Haydock stats to put me off one in any part of the draw, unless I'm reading it wrong?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 05, 2014, 03:49:35 PM
Just had a few quid ew Cape of Hope 10/1 next at Haydock and probably more HOPE than judgement

PS This is just my choice without any inside knowledge


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 05, 2014, 03:50:30 PM
Im not a great stat analyst but doesn't look enough in those Haydock stats to put me off one in any part of the draw, unless I'm reading it wrong?

Don't get drawn in the middle?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on September 05, 2014, 03:58:38 PM
Def Adz - I think it is race specific - I wouldn't want to back a pace horse wide if there was pace drawn low, as the horse is going to use to much.  

Also isn't Haydock a good course for hold up horses anyway, given the long straight?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 05, 2014, 04:01:57 PM
Just had a few quid ew Cape of Hope 10/1 next at Haydock and probably more HOPE than judgement

PS This is just my choice without any inside knowledge


Oh dear


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 05, 2014, 04:22:53 PM
Im not a great stat analyst but doesn't look enough in those Haydock stats to put me off one in any part of the draw, unless I'm reading it wrong?

Don't get drawn in the middle?




Maybe you should follow me in on my tiny bet on the well handicapped Smarty Socks, Mr Smarty Pants..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: gambleingaz on September 05, 2014, 04:51:29 PM
Also had a decent ew bet on Cosette in last at Haydock at . Again, should appreciate the step up in trip. GL

hope it wins,had a double with Candys other runner Apricot Sky (won 11/2) 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 05, 2014, 06:07:04 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/2014-09-06-ascot/17:15/winner

Have backed Zero Money a 25's here small each way

Been leading up group fields most of the season the handicapper has finally relented enough to get him into a 0-90. No doubt he will be ahead 1 furlong out whether he can hang on from a probable bad draw im not sure but at 25's dont have to have much on to find out

Only bet tommorow gd llk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 05, 2014, 06:13:44 PM
5/2! if im right about it being laid out for a while this is promising



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 05, 2014, 06:17:08 PM
Top stuff horsey! 2 from 2, lets hope the hatrick is on with tomorrows pick.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 05, 2014, 06:17:43 PM
lovely stuff :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 05, 2014, 06:25:50 PM
Good work horsey. 2 on the bounce! And I backed this one!

Apols about my two, punters.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 05, 2014, 06:34:04 PM
Good work horsey. 2 on the bounce! And I backed this one!

Apols about my two, punters.



each way return on the second and no need to apologise anyway, sure most are playing with profits from previous winners!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 05, 2014, 09:38:11 PM
Chester is interesting

Doubt there is anyone who even has half an interest in racing isnt aware of the low draw bias there, last ten years stats

Low 1.05
Mid 0.80
High 0.62

Thats from 5 furlongs to 7 furlongs

I think you will be amazed if you do the 1m 5f races at Chester Horsey.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 05, 2014, 09:56:23 PM
Chester is interesting

Doubt there is anyone who even has half an interest in racing isnt aware of the low draw bias there, last ten years stats

Low 1.05
Mid 0.80
High 0.62

Thats from 5 furlongs to 7 furlongs

I think you will be amazed if you do the 1m 5f races at Chester Horsey.

interesting! Not got much of a sample size here though?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 05, 2014, 10:15:23 PM
Chester is interesting

Doubt there is anyone who even has half an interest in racing isnt aware of the low draw bias there, last ten years stats

Low 1.05
Mid 0.80
High 0.62

Thats from 5 furlongs to 7 furlongs

I think you will be amazed if you do the 1m 5f races at Chester Horsey.

interesting! Not got much of a sample size here though?

I think the one In saw had 150 to 200 1m 5f races in it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 05, 2014, 10:17:33 PM

Top work yet again boys, well done.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 05, 2014, 10:34:58 PM
It was your calling call that did it :)

edit; card even been a long week


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 05, 2014, 10:38:57 PM

Top work yet again boys, well done.

+1 some good calls again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 06, 2014, 09:25:18 AM
2.05 Haydock 2pts e/w Confessional 11/2   -   edit: non-runner,down to 11 since I posted very much takes the gloss off this, would bet win only as it stands
2.40 Haydock 2pts win Ocean Tempest 3/1
3.15 Haydock 2pt e/w Hassle 9/1, and Quest For More 10/1 Corals


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 06, 2014, 11:00:31 AM
5.30 Haydock 1pt win Tiger Lily 12/1 and Mantou 8/1
2.00 Thirsk  1pt e/w Sands Chorus 6/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 06, 2014, 12:01:59 PM
Just watched Sole Power in the Nunthorpe again. Probably one of the best rides I've seen that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 06, 2014, 01:12:58 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/2014-09-06-ascot/17:15/winner

Have backed Zero Money a 25's here small each way

Been leading up group fields most of the season the handicapper has finally relented enough to get him into a 0-90. No doubt he will be ahead 1 furlong out whether he can hang on from a probable bad draw im not sure but at 25's dont have to have much on to find out

Only bet tommorow gd llk all

a few mates of mine were down at newmarket when foxy forever got one of the worst rides ive ever seen when it was primed to win. The owner was absolutely fuming. my mates had gone down to see alan bailey about a horse they were interested in. Fast forward a month or so me and a mate in doncaster owners and trainers bar chatting to bailey who told us that foxy forever wasnt off a jot last time, looks like it is today with ryan moore on. Should take the world of beating


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 06, 2014, 01:19:04 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/2014-09-06-ascot/17:15/winner

Have backed Zero Money a 25's here small each way

Been leading up group fields most of the season the handicapper has finally relented enough to get him into a 0-90. No doubt he will be ahead 1 furlong out whether he can hang on from a probable bad draw im not sure but at 25's dont have to have much on to find out

Only bet tommorow gd llk all

a few mates of mine were down at newmarket when foxy forever got one of the worst rides ive ever seen when it was primed to win. The owner was absolutely fuming. my mates had gone down to see alan bailey about a horse they were interested in. Fast forward a month or so me and a mate in doncaster owners and trainers bar chatting to bailey who told us that foxy forever wasnt off a jot last time, looks like it is today with ryan moore on. Should take the world of beating

Looked like a non stayer to me though i am sure this has been the target for this outfit.

gd lk all today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 06, 2014, 02:26:04 PM
That hurt...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 06, 2014, 02:37:04 PM
LolRedvers. Woof it in!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on September 06, 2014, 02:40:48 PM
This weekend's get rich quick scheme looks like this:

Si Senor
Nautilus
Extortionist.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 06, 2014, 02:59:37 PM
LolRedvers. Woof it in!

The 1.01 boys got whacked for a few quid :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 06, 2014, 04:22:50 PM
I have watched it again and G Force didnt have the cruising speed to take the gaps that Sole Power did

A superb sprinter never truly got the credit after winning this years ago at 100/1 looks even better now with Hughes ontop.

Thanks John. I saw it slightly different, I thought he followed the winner through at the same pace, but got completely stopped at one stage. Well off the pace early though, yes.


Good judge, please post more.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 06, 2014, 04:48:17 PM
I have watched it again and G Force didnt have the cruising speed to take the gaps that Sole Power did

A superb sprinter never truly got the credit after winning this years ago at 100/1 looks even better now with Hughes ontop.

Thanks John. I saw it slightly different, I thought he followed the winner through at the same pace, but got completely stopped at one stage. Well off the pace early though, yes.


Good judge, please post more.

G Force won?

After York, I promised myself I'd back it for a few races.

Shame I forgot.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on September 06, 2014, 04:53:36 PM
This weekend's get rich quick scheme looks like this:

Si Senor
Nautilus
Extortionist.
??????
Profit



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 06, 2014, 04:56:27 PM
I have watched it again and G Force didnt have the cruising speed to take the gaps that Sole Power did

A superb sprinter never truly got the credit after winning this years ago at 100/1 looks even better now with Hughes ontop.

Thanks John. I saw it slightly different, I thought he followed the winner through at the same pace, but got completely stopped at one stage. Well off the pace early though, yes.


Good judge, please post more.

G Force won?

After York, I promised myself I'd back it for a few races.

Shame I forgot.

bugger,  was hoping you might have had a bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on September 06, 2014, 05:00:22 PM
This weekend's get rich quick scheme looks like this:

Si Senor
Nautilus
Extortionist.



??????
Profit

Touch ahead, yep.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on September 06, 2014, 05:56:37 PM
This weekend's get rich quick scheme looks like this:

Si Senor
Nautilus
Extortionist.



??????
Profit

Touch ahead, yep.



lol wasn't a quotefail - but an attempted parody of the 2+2 forum.  So jokefail......



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on September 06, 2014, 05:59:30 PM
This weekend's get rich quick scheme looks like this:

Si Senor
Nautilus
Extortionist.



??????
Profit

Touch ahead, yep.



lol wasn't a quotefail - but an attempted parody of the 2+2 forum.  So jokefail......



You think I have time to go on other forums?

Properly whooshed me, I'm afraid. I'll assume you were congratulating me instead :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on September 06, 2014, 08:57:56 PM
This weekend's get rich quick scheme looks like this:

Si Senor
Nautilus
Extortionist.



??????
Profit

Touch ahead, yep.



lol wasn't a quotefail - but an attempted parody of the 2+2 forum.  So jokefail......



You think I have time to go on other forums?

Properly whooshed me, I'm afraid. I'll assume you were congratulating me instead :)

I was doing that as well

(despite the fact that you relegated my selection to the runner up berth for a meagre place return)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on September 06, 2014, 09:01:08 PM
:D

Adz pipes up that he had the forecast in 3...2...1...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 07, 2014, 07:34:26 AM
Most amusing Tal

Haven't you got some airbuses to build?...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on September 07, 2014, 12:05:04 PM
Most amusing Tal

Haven't you got some airbuses to build?...

Ha! Touché

:D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 07, 2014, 12:43:19 PM
Today's bets

Fast Track York 16:40  2pt win 4/1
Chant York 16:05 1pt e/w 14/1
Naadirr York 15:00 2pt win 3/1
Eeny Mac York 14:30 1pt e/w 33/1
My Mate York 14:00  30/1 exchange 1ptwin
Moonlightnavigator York 14:00 9/1  1pt win


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 07, 2014, 02:16:20 PM
Hate to take him on(Simon) but I'm having a large ew bet on Spring Offensive in first.

Just back and being nagged so sorry no write up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 07, 2014, 02:31:54 PM
Ouch another 5 yards you get there


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 07, 2014, 02:33:01 PM
Hate to take him on(Simon) but I'm having a large ew bet on Spring Offensive in first.

Just back and being nagged so sorry no write up.

Ho Hum. Another crossbar. again no damage though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 07, 2014, 04:43:37 PM
Sea the Moon just beaten comfortable, and now back out to 10/1 for the Arc.

Is Taghrooda worth a few quid at 8s on the back of that?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 07, 2014, 05:33:11 PM
It's strange how things go full circle sometimes.

Last year we couldnt get on Treve quick enough for this year, and I suspect that come October we will be glad we did and that she has had such a short season. She may have been beat LTO, but if she was injured when she was last time, that was hell of an effort.

Im happy enough having just her on side at the moment mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 07, 2014, 05:39:28 PM
Think the front four or five all have question marks/chinks in them especially at current prices

Will be trying to find something at silly odds next few days methinks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 07, 2014, 05:47:57 PM
I'm really hoping Treve does it, so that Boyles have to pay me one more time on a dead account!

Back to fave now on the back of that, so hopefully she'll be back to 100% come the day, and we all get weighed in!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 08, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Will try and tot up my running points P&L later, (won't be pretty)

For today:

Ginzan Brighton 14:30  2pts win 100/30
Fieldsman Brighton 15:00 2pts win 6/4
Whitby Jet Brighton 16:00 2pts e/w 8/1 Thought there were quite a lot of positives for this, may prefer softer ground but has several placed efforts on gd to firm. Has won over today's distance and at this course. Seems a consistent type. Like jockey booking, his course record is 1 win and 3 places out of 5 rides. 8 runners and seems unlikely any will drop out because of going. slightly put off by weakness in market.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 08, 2014, 05:13:01 PM
Hector Crouch maintains his excellent strike rate at Brighton, sadly it's aboard Birdie Queen in the first. Whitby Jet decides today's the day to show no interest in racing.
You might have thought that having taken the trouble to look up his record at Brighton I might have paid closer attention to his other rides there today, unfortunately I didn't or I might easily have found a winner there. Seems like a possible angle for the future.
There's been a tiny bit of support for Tax Reform which he rides in the last, but seems like pure guesswork as to whether it might bounce back to form. I'll leave it, which means it will obviously dot up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 08, 2014, 07:22:59 PM
Uh Oh! , Time for a reckoning up and a couple of sob stories...

Since I've been recording points bet (4th Sept) I've had 4 out of 4 losing days, 23 bets, 52 pts bet in total, a total loss of 23pts for a ROI of -44%  - so not the best start then..

There was one decent winner in Berlusca which was my smallest each way bet. Kings Bayonet and Chant both came 4th by a neck and a short head at 22/1 and 14/1 respectively, and would have produced a swing of +11.75 pts if they had both placed.
I have at least learned that it will make life simpler if I make a point of tallying the points at the end of each day, rather than having to go back over it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 09, 2014, 11:22:13 AM
4.20 Leics    2pts e/w Pastoral Player 5/1
                  1pt  e/w Take A Note 7/1

According to stats the low draw is a big advantage here and these two are stall 3 & 1. Think PP maybe running back into form despite being dropped another couple of pounds for his last run on ground which was probably softer than ideal.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on September 09, 2014, 11:26:58 AM
 Someone i know well in the hunter chase sphere, has been told to back Creeevytennant in the 7pm at Perth. He doesnt give out many but this one is a strong mention on his tipping service today. 9/2 best around with Stanley. Good luck anyone playing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 09, 2014, 01:08:29 PM
4.00 Redcar  1.5pts e/w Anderiego 6/1,    1pt e/w Favourite Treat 14-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 09, 2014, 03:47:12 PM
Someone i know well in the hunter chase sphere, has been told to back Creeevytennant in the 7pm at Perth. He doesnt give out many but this one is a strong mention on his tipping service today. 9/2 best around with Stanley. Good luck anyone playing.


 hi Freddy

He sure does need to go right handed. Good luck mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on September 09, 2014, 04:30:46 PM
Been a lot of money down already today, 9/2 well gone and 11/4 on laddies i saw at last peek. Laid out for Perth apparently its last run. Good Luck Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 09, 2014, 06:27:27 PM
Today's bets (11pts) showed a profit of 3.5 pts thanks to a win from Take A Note and  a good run from the fast finishing Anderiego only 3/4 of a length down in third.
May just be variance, but I like to think it showed the benefit of being a little more selective than of late.

Running total
Profit        Amt Bet    ROI          No.
-19.50      63.00      -30.95        27


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on September 09, 2014, 07:44:13 PM
Someone i know well in the hunter chase sphere, has been told to back Creeevytennant in the 7pm at Perth. He doesnt give out many but this one is a strong mention on his tipping service today. 9/2 best around with Stanley. Good luck anyone playing.


 hi Freddy

He sure does need to go right handed. Good luck mate.

Beautiful . Thank you.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 09, 2014, 07:52:09 PM
well done acton


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 09, 2014, 08:10:45 PM
Cheers Freddie! Nice to have you added to this group of horse tipsters :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: KitKeeper on September 09, 2014, 09:02:22 PM
Someone i know well in the hunter chase sphere, has been told to back Creeevytennant in the 7pm at Perth. He doesnt give out many but this one is a strong mention on his tipping service today. 9/2 best around with Stanley. Good luck anyone playing.

Lovely stuff, thanks.  :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 09, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
Been a lot of money down already today, 9/2 well gone and 11/4 on laddies i saw at last peek. Laid out for Perth apparently its last run. Good Luck Adz


Good work matey.

Keep em coming.  ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on September 10, 2014, 02:02:38 PM
Couple of fancies for today after doing a little bit of homework.

Dangerous Age-515pm Doncaster- Around 11/1 represents brilliant each way value in a 5f handicap with a lot of bad horses and poor form on show. Ideal distance, good ground suits and Ryan Moore on board. Couple of points each way recommendation.

Burano-Carlisle 1635pm- Around the 9/2 mark in a small competitive handicap. Brian Meehan loves this old stable stalwart and has come down a few pounds in the handicap. Stiff Mile perfect, good ground, and he doesnt take many that far north for no reason! 2points win.

If Burano obliges, watch out for his other runner in the 1735 at Carlisle, Number one London, and if recapturing best form could easily win this at odds around the 8/1 mark. Good luck any takers!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 10, 2014, 07:01:10 PM
sorry for last minute going to back Shining Glitter 2 pts win 6.45 Kempton  4/1 W Hill


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 10, 2014, 10:56:01 PM
Shining Glitter 2nd

Running total
Profit        Amt Bet    ROI          No.
-21.50      65.00      -xxxx        28


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 11, 2014, 12:53:50 AM
I know this will go down as after-timing but after noting Hector Crouch's strike rate I put him in my tracker and got an email this morning to say he had a single ride today in the 6.15 Kempton on what turned out to be a 100-1 shot in an 11 runner nursery.  I thought I'ld have £1 e/w on it and forgot about it till I looked at my account just now and saw it came 3rd !
Sounds like I would have got quite excited had I watched the race.. "In touch, effort to challenge 2f out, soon ridden, led briefly entering final furlong, stayed on, not pace of winner final 100 yards"  beaten sh and 1.5 lengths.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 11, 2014, 01:49:47 AM
off to ladies day at doncaster st ledger meeting tomorrow. this track out of any track has been an absolute graveyard for me every time ive been. Ive put a days long study in today and if i brick again ill just call it a jinx track.

1.40 small saver gregoria, decent e/w bet penny royale, dont like the jolly out of stall 4 and easterby;s charge has just given me the impression in every run that its been targeted for something. very modest stakes
2.10 definatel1y think the bet is Al Thikara e/w at 12/1 i got a shade bigger but IF this horse is sound its sure to be a player back at 7f, had tiny saver on bragging
2.40 absolutely all in on arabian comet at 5/1 ew. i was at the meeting the time when seal of approval unseated and injured hayley turner and this race is stronger and i didnt believe SOA would have won that day anyway. this is such a solid e/w bet im excited
3.15 ok, we had a word to bet acaster malbis on its debut and it got beat by the stable second string (tilt) and then was fancied next time when eased and something was wrong. (was fancied that day) this race has a habbit of throwing up shock winners and this horse i think is still well regarded, had decent e/w bet 40/1
       also had small win bet on natural order

3.45 ive bet long cross at 4/1 semi decent bet, is thought a lot of just waiting to hear from those close to stable as to whether i should top up
4.25 looks impossible to me, had tiny bet on blue waltz as the most likely to improve but not really a good betting race
5.00  impossible without stable connections
5.35 really like tagula night here at 20/1  have also bet baby strange at 20/1






Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: claypole on September 11, 2014, 02:19:22 AM
off to ladies day at doncaster st ledger meeting tomorrow. this track out of any track has been an absolute graveyard for me every time ive been. Ive put a days long study in today and if i brick again ill just call it a jinx track.

1.40 small saver gregoria, decent e/w bet penny royale, dont like the jolly out of stall 4 and easterby;s charge has just given me the impression in every run that its been targeted for something. very modest stakes
2.10 definatel1y think the bet is Al Thikara e/w at 12/1 i got a shade bigger but IF this horse is sound its sure to be a player back at 7f, had tiny saver on bragging
2.40 absolutely all in on arabian comet at 5/1 ew. i was at the meeting the time when seal of approval unseated and injured hayley turner and this race is stronger and i didnt believe SOA would have won that day anyway. this is such a solid e/w bet im excited
3.15 ok, we had a word to bet acaster malbis on its debut and it got beat by the stable second string (tilt) and then was fancied next time when eased and something was wrong. (was fancied that day) this race has a habbit of throwing up shock winners and this horse i think is still well regarded, had decent e/w bet 40/1
       also had small win bet on natural order

3.45 ive bet long cross at 4/1 semi decent bet, is thought a lot of just waiting to hear from those close to stable as to whether i should top up
4.25 looks impossible to me, had tiny bet on blue waltz as the most likely to improve but not really a good betting race
5.00  impossible without stable connections
5.35 really like tagula night here at 20/1  have also bet baby strange at 20/1






Get some sleep ffs...I am wide awake and looking forward to doing cobblers on above selections


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 11, 2014, 06:36:48 AM
off to ladies day at doncaster st ledger meeting tomorrow. this track out of any track has been an absolute graveyard for me every time ive been. Ive put a days long study in today and if i brick again ill just call it a jinx track.

1.40 small saver gregoria, decent e/w bet penny royale, dont like the jolly out of stall 4 and easterby;s charge has just given me the impression in every run that its been targeted for something. very modest stakes
2.10 definatel1y think the bet is Al Thikara e/w at 12/1 i got a shade bigger but IF this horse is sound its sure to be a player back at 7f, had tiny saver on bragging
2.40 absolutely all in on arabian comet at 5/1 ew. i was at the meeting the time when seal of approval unseated and injured hayley turner and this race is stronger and i didnt believe SOA would have won that day anyway. this is such a solid e/w bet im excited
3.15 ok, we had a word to bet acaster malbis on its debut and it got beat by the stable second string (tilt) and then was fancied next time when eased and something was wrong. (was fancied that day) this race has a habbit of throwing up shock winners and this horse i think is still well regarded, had decent e/w bet 40/1
       also had small win bet on natural order

3.45 ive bet long cross at 4/1 semi decent bet, is thought a lot of just waiting to hear from those close to stable as to whether i should top up
4.25 looks impossible to me, had tiny bet on blue waltz as the most likely to improve but not really a good betting race
5.00  impossible without stable connections
5.35 really like tagula night here at 20/1  have also bet baby strange at 20/1






Good luck old chap.

Only horse in my tracker today is Penny Royale, so pleased to see someone else likes it too.

Backed Al thakira last night too.

Arabian looks solid after York run last time, but I have had a good bet on Island Remede that ran against it in that race. Looks to be crying out for this, and whilst yours does look rock solid, at 33-1 I have to follow up over the longer distance.

Finally, took 14s on El Viento last night with Victor as Ryan on it and Fahey seems sweet on it.

Have a great day mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 11, 2014, 08:09:54 AM
3.35 Epsom only race that interests me today

With 14 runners not a good each way shape and given i think two are worth backing have had two win only bets.

Really struggling to see why Enliven is so short, won a weak Chester maiden last time and wears the hood (big negative any headgear for Balding). Obviously unexposed but backing a filly in first time handicaps this competitive is a recipe for being skint.

Aqua Ardens is second fav and is rock solid loves switchback courses wins races and will almost certainly run well. Career high mark makes him hard to back though.

King of Macedon is always backed and im never sure why now 15 defeats since winning on debut, no thanks.

My main fancy is WEEKENDATBERNIES at 8/1, Ed De Giles has had an excellent last 18 months especially with handicappers and like many this one seems to be progressing steadily. Last run at Sandown was fine, easy to forgive a poor Kempton run before that and won here on handicap debut. With the excellent Louis Steward claiming 5lbs is now only 1lb higher than that now and sure there is more to come back in a bigger field.

Have had a smaller win bet on a complete rag in RAKAAN AT 33/1. Following horses claimed by Brendan Powell has been very profitable of late certainly since a certain ex jumps jockey has done most of his training for him :)

To be fair this horse has very little turf form but just showed a glimmer at Goodwood last time finishing very well after being drawn in the coffin box. Have a big doubt can win on turf especially in a race this competitive and may be being run to get the mark down for the all weather coming soon but at the price worth chancing from such a declining handicap mark.


good luck all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 11, 2014, 12:14:28 PM
I was having a chat with a player next door, & sort of apropros something & nothing, the name Fred Flippance (what an awesome name) came up, who I gather was the Head Lad who rode Tingle Creek in all his work.

One thing led to another, & I came across this little profile of John Hills, which I found quite enjoyable, especially......


A memorable day was bing sent to Las Vegas with pocket loads of cash to place on an unknown horse called Crews Hill who was running at Bay Meadows. He had won the previous year’s Steward’s Cup, and they didn’t see which way he went!

http://www.johnhills.com/johnhills.htm

Pardon the minor derail, but I love these little racing anecdotes, & I hope a few others will chip in, too.

As you were.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 11, 2014, 02:06:11 PM
Persun at 4 places 1/4 odds @ 12/1 has to be wrong.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on September 11, 2014, 03:52:08 PM
can i aftertime please Adz? Can I?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 11, 2014, 04:00:31 PM
can i aftertime please Adz? Can I?

Goooooo on lets av it



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on September 11, 2014, 04:04:48 PM
can i aftertime please Adz? Can I?

Goooooo on lets av it



just for you Trev

Bond's Girl @ 14/1
£20.00  EW  Single    11/09/2014 15:02:43    40.00    390.00
Cockney Island @ 25/1
£20.00  EW  Single    11/09/2014 15:02:42    40.00    145.00


both carried 8-2 right down the bottom in a sales race where 2yo were expected to carry 10lbs more, thought both looked good before

not quite simon or adz analysis, but it made my afternoon


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 11, 2014, 04:14:15 PM
Nice going Tighty.

You just shouldn't though. Just as I am in aftertiming rehab you force me to reveal my text to bobby earlier for bets for the first @ Donny(prior to racing, naturally)

East Coast Lady 70 ew @16s
50ew Home Cummins 14s

I'm sorry but you stirred the demon within ;bigadz; ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on September 11, 2014, 04:17:17 PM
That'll learn me. Always have to go one better.... ;-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 11, 2014, 04:17:50 PM
If you've been to Tenerife, Adz has been to Elevenerife...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 11, 2014, 04:18:39 PM
can i aftertime please Adz? Can I?

Goooooo on lets av it



just for you Trev

Bond's Girl @ 14/1
£20.00  EW  Single    11/09/2014 15:02:43    40.00    390.00
Cockney Island @ 25/1
£20.00  EW  Single    11/09/2014 15:02:42    40.00    145.00


both carried 8-2 right down the bottom in a sales race where 2yo were expected to carry 10lbs more, thought both looked good before

not quite simon or adz analysis, but it made my afternoon

Super sweet

Well done


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 11, 2014, 04:19:19 PM
Nice going Tighty.

You just shouldn't though. Just as I am in aftertiming rehab you force me to reveal my text to bobby earlier for bets for the first @ Donny(prior to racing, naturally)

East Coast Lady 70 ew @16s
50ew Home Cummins 14s

I'm sorry but you stirred the demon within ;bigadz; ;)

Good call sir good call


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 11, 2014, 04:24:15 PM
If you've been to Tenerife, Adz has been to Elevenerife...


LOL.

Says the Next Door aftertimer ;). Don't be bitter mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on September 11, 2014, 04:32:17 PM
Little squeak for King of Normandy in the 5pm at Donny today. Around 6/1 so not too much value, but word is good from the Hannon yard regarding its chance today back in the UK after its debut in France last time out.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on September 11, 2014, 04:38:38 PM
http://www.thepja.co.uk/championships/flat-jockeys-championship/

Is this table updated every day or is it out of date regarding the current state of the jockeys title standings?  Is there any other source for the current standings if this is not accurate?

thanks in advance to the horse guys.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 11, 2014, 04:49:18 PM
If you've been to Tenerife, Adz has been to Elevenerife...


LOL.

Says the Next Door aftertimer ;). Don't be bitter mate.

Lost me?

I'm far too used to your ways now to get bitter about them ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 11, 2014, 04:49:24 PM
Said it was seven at the start of the c4 coverage so looks good. Looks like bookies are calling it uncontested with hughes odds.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 11, 2014, 04:50:38 PM
http://www.thepja.co.uk/championships/flat-jockeys-championship/

Is this table updated every day or is it out of date regarding the current state of the jockeys title standings?  Is there any other source for the current standings if this is not accurate?

thanks in advance to the horse guys.


Not sure how up to date its kept but

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/stats

Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on September 11, 2014, 04:53:43 PM
http://www.thepja.co.uk/championships/flat-jockeys-championship/

Is this table updated every day or is it out of date regarding the current state of the jockeys title standings?  Is there any other source for the current standings if this is not accurate?

thanks in advance to the horse guys.


Not sure how up to date its kept but

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/stats

Adz

i saw that source but joe fanning is not even in the race so that one can't be right surely and must be from previous years?

Cheers anyway adz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 11, 2014, 05:05:07 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/racing/statistics/flat-jockeys/season

Same numbers coming up on Sky.

I have no investment in title=interest, so dont know.

Do these include beach winners or something?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 11, 2014, 05:05:48 PM
3.35 Epsom only race that interests me today

With 14 runners not a good each way shape and given i think two are worth backing have had two win only bets.

Really struggling to see why Enliven is so short, won a weak Chester maiden last time and wears the hood (big negative any headgear for Balding). Obviously unexposed but backing a filly in first time handicaps this competitive is a recipe for being skint.

Aqua Ardens is second fav and is rock solid loves switchback courses wins races and will almost certainly run well. Career high mark makes him hard to back though.

King of Macedon is always backed and im never sure why now 15 defeats since winning on debut, no thanks.

My main fancy is WEEKENDATBERNIES at 8/1, Ed De Giles has had an excellent last 18 months especially with handicappers and like many this one seems to be progressing steadily. Last run at Sandown was fine, easy to forgive a poor Kempton run before that and won here on handicap debut. With the excellent Louis Steward claiming 5lbs is now only 1lb higher than that now and sure there is more to come back in a bigger field.

Have had a smaller win bet on a complete rag in RAKAAN AT 33/1. Following horses claimed by Brendan Powell has been very profitable of late certainly since a certain ex jumps jockey has done most of his training for him :)

To be fair this horse has very little turf form but just showed a glimmer at Goodwood last time finishing very well after being drawn in the coffin box. Have a big doubt can win on turf especially in a race this competitive and may be being run to get the mark down for the all weather coming soon but at the price worth chancing from such a declining handicap mark.


good luck all

Nice analysis Horsey. Since it's open season for after timing, you prompted me to back your fancy and Aqua Ardens e/w and throw in a rev f/cast.  So very nearly got the lot.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on September 11, 2014, 05:15:58 PM
http://www1.skysports.com/racing/statistics/flat-jockeys/season

Same numbers coming up on Sky.

I have no investment in title=interest, so dont know.

Do these include beach winners or something?

sky and sporting life/oddschecker owned by the same firm so would imagine they are just using the same source. 

Anyone else got any answers/sources?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 11, 2014, 05:17:46 PM
ah ul Simon

Slight lack of experience beat us there i think, fair to say Rakaan stays in the notebook for the winter


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 11, 2014, 06:06:25 PM
http://www.racingpost.com/horses/jockey_home.sd?jockey_id=79202

http://www.racingpost.com/horses/jockey_home.sd?jockey_id=3793


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: KarmaDope on September 11, 2014, 07:10:59 PM
The missus is going to Chester tomorrow night for work - her company is entertaining some clients. Do any of the brains here have any tips she can try and impress them with, as my knowledge is sadly lacking, and hers is a lot worse than mine!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 11, 2014, 09:39:29 PM
The missus is going to Chester tomorrow night for work - her company is entertaining some clients. Do any of the brains here have any tips she can try and impress them with, as my knowledge is sadly lacking, and hers is a lot worse than mine!!


If she is going tomorrow night then she has missed it!

Jenny Powell is on the consistently unlucky Athletic in the third. Her fem touch may help to coax it home.

Charlottes Lad should also follow up. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: KarmaDope on September 11, 2014, 09:47:15 PM
The missus is going to Chester tomorrow night for work - her company is entertaining some clients. Do any of the brains here have any tips she can try and impress them with, as my knowledge is sadly lacking, and hers is a lot worse than mine!!


If she is going tomorrow night then she has missed it!

Jenny Powell is on the consistently unlucky Athletic in the third. Her fem touch may help to coax it home.

Charlottes Lad should also follow up. GL

When she said Friday I auto assumed it was an evening fixture! Will pass these on, cheers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on September 11, 2014, 09:56:17 PM
Any thoughts on Elite Gardens 17:45 Salisbury? Will it win?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on September 11, 2014, 10:16:16 PM
I'm at Chester tomorrow also! HELP! :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on September 11, 2014, 10:17:59 PM
The missus is going to Chester tomorrow night for work - her company is entertaining some clients. Do any of the brains here have any tips she can try and impress them with, as my knowledge is sadly lacking, and hers is a lot worse than mine!!


If she is going tomorrow night then she has missed it!

Jenny Powell is on the consistently unlucky Athletic in the third. Her fem touch may help to coax it home.

Charlottes Lad should also follow up. GL

She's done brilliantly since her days on Wheel of Fortune.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on September 11, 2014, 10:30:04 PM
I'm at Chester tomorrow also! HELP! :)

Wear a tie if you going in the expensive bit otheriwse u won't get in even if you have a jacket on.  I found this out myself a few years ago.  Assume it's still the same rules. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 11, 2014, 10:33:35 PM
Any thoughts on Elite Gardens 17:45 Salisbury? Will it win?


Hmm. Pass!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 11, 2014, 10:34:19 PM
I'm at Chester tomorrow also! HELP! :)


Keep your hands off Sharpleas missus!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on September 11, 2014, 10:34:46 PM
Any thoughts on Elite Gardens 17:45 Salisbury? Will it win?


Hmm. Pass!

Pass, you don't know?
Pass on the bet?
Lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 12, 2014, 10:43:38 AM
Had a very quick look at Chester and if I had to have a bet, would go for:
2.00 Manshaa
2.30 Guilty - Think there's better value at 3-1 than with the 5/6 fav since there's little to split them on speed ratings
4.50 Erroneous
5.20 This was the only race I had even a remotely strong feeling about and would back both of Belle Bayardo and Mime Dance win only. I fancy something held up to come late and nick this.

These come with a huge wealth warning and I won't be backing any of these myself - they might do better than a random pick but no g'tees. Sorry I couldn't find something to be enthusiastic about.

I know I'm setting myself up here, but it's Friday and for a bit of fun I used http://www.random.org/  to make a random pick in each of the races to test my hypothesis:

2.00 Gabrial The Viking
2.30 Mythmaker
4.50 Mambo Rhythm
5.20 Le Laitier and Prime Exhibit

Good Luck.

 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 12, 2014, 11:12:28 AM
Interestingly enough I have just been told to have my max bet on Mythmaker at Chester today, not so much based on its a certainty, but the value it represents.

Be warned, but be lucky!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on September 12, 2014, 11:50:34 AM

Shybet 1/4 4 places on the 1.40

Top price on a few, I've gone for Bronze Maquette.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 12, 2014, 12:02:32 PM

Shybet 1/4 4 places on the 1.40

Top price on a few, I've gone for Bronze Maquette.

Good spot, Mind of Madness seems good too.  Pity they don't lay much.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 12, 2014, 01:03:27 PM
1.40 I will of course be rooting for Moonraker and had a small win bet last night at 9-1, bit put off by Moore sounding lukewarm on his chances. no points invested here.

2.10 Doncaster  2pts e/w Elidor  8/1 4 places B365/Ladbrokes,  3 pts win Adventure Seeker 9/2 generally - even better with Money back 2nd or 3rd Paddy Power.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on September 12, 2014, 02:13:22 PM
Unbelievable end to first race at Donny. Cotai Glory well clear unseats rider 4 yards from line.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 12, 2014, 02:34:16 PM
might be a weird kind of day, what with that and random.org about to go through the card at Chester...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 12, 2014, 02:56:51 PM
might be a weird kind of day, what with that and random.org about to go through the card at Chester...


Kiss of death......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 12, 2014, 03:34:44 PM
The missus is going to Chester tomorrow night for work - her company is entertaining some clients. Do any of the brains here have any tips she can try and impress them with, as my knowledge is sadly lacking, and hers is a lot worse than mine!!


If she is going tomorrow night then she has missed it!

Jenny Powell is on the consistently unlucky Athletic in the third. Her fem touch may help to coax it home.

Charlottes Lad should also follow up. GL


 ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 12, 2014, 06:24:30 PM
Had a very quick look at Chester and if I had to have a bet, would go for:
2.00 Manshaa
2.30 Guilty - Think there's better value at 3-1 than with the 5/6 fav since there's little to split them on speed ratings
4.50 Erroneous
5.20 This was the only race I had even a remotely strong feeling about and would back both of Belle Bayardo and Mime Dance win only. I fancy something held up to come late and nick this.

These come with a huge wealth warning and I won't be backing any of these myself - they might do better than a random pick but no g'tees. Sorry I couldn't find something to be enthusiastic about.

I know I'm setting myself up here, but it's Friday and for a bit of fun I used http://www.random.org/  to make a random pick in each of the races to test my hypothesis:

2.00 Gabrial The Viking
2.30 Mythmaker
4.50 Mambo Rhythm
5.20 Le Laitier and Prime Exhibit

Good Luck.


Obviously the random picks run out a ready winner,  3-1 and 7-2 winners delivering a £3.50 profit to level £1 stakes...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on September 12, 2014, 06:33:33 PM
Any thoughts on Elite Gardens 17:45 Salisbury? Will it win?

Peasy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 12, 2014, 07:04:44 PM
Well played mate!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on September 12, 2014, 09:43:18 PM
Think I will continue this fine form onto taws at 17:20 chester 4/1 tomorrow.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 13, 2014, 01:39:15 AM
Anyone have any thoughts on Tilstarr 18/1 with BetVictor 4.50 Lingfield. Not brilliant at her best but course record is 2 wins from 6 starts and generally not beaten out of sight. First time cheekpieces tomorrow - worth a small win bet?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on September 13, 2014, 02:19:18 PM
The man Adz knows as 'My Bearded Friend' has a comically impressive record in the Portland. He goes ALGAR LAD ("Only been running over 5 but finished strong over Ascot stiff 5 last time, trainer hot and good apprentice up")

Also fancies ACCESSION in a strongly run race at Chester.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 13, 2014, 05:27:23 PM
Anyone have any thoughts on Tilstarr 18/1 with BetVictor 4.50 Lingfield. Not brilliant at her best but course record is 2 wins from 6 starts and generally not beaten out of sight. First time cheekpieces tomorrow - worth a small win bet?

Wow, that hurt. Done in the shadow of the line, chunks done on Betfair, looked a certain winner.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 13, 2014, 06:29:09 PM
Anyone have any thoughts on Tilstarr 18/1 with BetVictor 4.50 Lingfield. Not brilliant at her best but course record is 2 wins from 6 starts and generally not beaten out of sight. First time cheekpieces tomorrow - worth a small win bet?

Wow, that hurt. Done in the shadow of the line, chunks done on Betfair, looked a certain winner.

Unlucky mate, just watched it back, and nothing more painful than being caught in the last few yards :(



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 13, 2014, 07:19:25 PM
ryan moore best timed ride in history


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on September 13, 2014, 07:22:14 PM
ryan moore best timed ride in history

Great ride, great jockey.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 13, 2014, 07:26:51 PM
LOL!

Backed it both times that it finished 2nd, and left it alone everytime it has won...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 13, 2014, 07:43:40 PM
LOL!

Backed it both times that it finished 2nd, and left it alone everytime it has won...

ty you're a gent


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 13, 2014, 07:50:33 PM
Ffs... we've got another one on the firm ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 13, 2014, 11:47:01 PM
Oh Marky.

Have you already forgotten your  ;bigadz; about your 20-1 on G Force already????


Cant beat em.... eh mate!? ;) :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 13, 2014, 11:56:57 PM
Oh Marky.

Have you already forgotten your  ;bigadz; about your 20-1 on G Force already????


Cant beat em.... eh mate!? ;) :D

No aftertiming here son...

That post was a pisstake in response to the aftertiming that had already been posted.

I think it's for mugs, so I'll not be joining ;)





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2014, 11:25:00 AM
Had a word on a few today, but one that I will pass on is

Intense Pride in the 5.20 at Curr.

Could be a complete blank, but when 66s is available I felt obliged to offer it up, just in case. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 14, 2014, 02:56:40 PM
Anybody fancy Pomology in the Prix Vermeille?  You can get 5/1 with Hills and a couple of others which is right on Betfair.  Beat Sultanina in the Lancashire Oaks (won Nassau afterwards), and from was also franked at Doncaster by Silk Sari.

A little dirty each way and Treve hasn't set the World alight this year.  I guess you might do better on the PMU?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 14, 2014, 03:04:57 PM
Looks a must bet race

I didnt like the way in the Treve feature on ATR earlier the trainer commented she has become much more of a "thinker" this season. Considering we now know she pulled all sorts of muscles before the start at Ascot but still ran through the pain barrier i cant believe she is going to be keen to/be able to go through it ever again.

Would not be shocked to see her out the 3 here

gd lk


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 14, 2014, 03:08:44 PM
The PMU is nothing like as attractive as it once was

http://www.zeturf.com/fr/programmes-et-pronostics/course?id=148042

Pretty similar at present Dolniya the value over here, Sultania over there



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 14, 2014, 03:16:23 PM
right theory :(

Be surprised if we even see Treve again after that looked to be feeling something/holding back


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 14, 2014, 03:17:07 PM
Treve only 4th, Pomology just missed first


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 14, 2014, 03:36:33 PM
3.40 Curragh   3pts e/w Malabar 8-1 full recommend on TFT


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2014, 03:38:57 PM
Nice to see Stepper Point finally win a decent trophy. Been solid as a rock all year and deserved that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 14, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
Good old Sir Maximillian running on for second

Was some bet from that mark at Chester on debut for Pitt!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 14, 2014, 05:14:58 PM
Starting to feel like a jinx posting here, have to take days off posting so I can make some money.
Running points total updated for Elidor, Adventure seeker and Malabar:

Loss -28.5 pts     Pts bet 78    ROI  -37%


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 14, 2014, 05:21:53 PM
Why on earth would you let a horse of brown panthers ability that lead. O briens pacemaker set up leading lights defeat.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 14, 2014, 06:50:27 PM
LORD OF THE DANCE 6pm wolver Monday

Wont repeat myself yet again but somehow is down to 67 getting weight from everything in a class 5, SDS booked is the icing on the cake for me already being backed...



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2014, 07:10:08 PM
Had a word on a few today, but one that I will pass on is

Intense Pride in the 5.20 at Curr.

Could be a complete blank, but when 66s is available I felt obliged to offer it up, just in case. GL


6/29. Ran a cracker for a 66-1 poke.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 15, 2014, 07:43:29 AM
LORD OF THE DANCE 6pm wolver Monday

Wont repeat myself yet again but somehow is down to 67 getting weight from everything in a class 5, SDS booked is the icing on the cake for me already being backed...



Thanks John.

At what price is it a bet?

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/wolverhampton/18:00/winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 15, 2014, 09:09:11 AM
Would not want to take anything shorter than 7/1

Hugh Taylor is almost as fascinated with this horse as me and there is always the chance he tips it at around 10am


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 15, 2014, 09:13:55 AM
Would not want to take anything shorter than 7/1

Hugh Taylor is almost as fascinated with this horse as me and there is always the chance he tips it at around 10am

Thanks John.

I was not sure if 11 runners @ one fifth was good for EW betting, so I elected to have £10 win @ 8/1 with Sporting Bet.

They restricted me to a fiver. Never mind, that'll do.

Typically, working backwards as I'm inclined to do, I then discovered that the horse is 9.6 on Betfair, so I had a fiver there, too.

I've not backed it to place, but Betty Exchange go 2.94, which looks reasonable, yes/no?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 15, 2014, 09:27:45 AM
Personally i have backed win only

Not the most solid conveyance bit win or bust so to speak


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 15, 2014, 01:37:40 PM
Think I'll chance 1pt e/w again on Economic Crisis @ 20-1 5.10 Muss.  Dropping to a dangerous mark and has run ok at Muss when ground has been in her favour. Hoping her run last time from a bad draw at Beverley was worth a bit more than the bare result.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 15, 2014, 02:28:45 PM
4.20 Brighton 1pt win Pour La Victoire 9/2 and Hawk Moth 7/1 - btw Paddy Power offer significantly worse odds and money back 2nd/3rd this race


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 15, 2014, 06:32:25 PM
started 7/2

looks gone sadly


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on September 15, 2014, 07:35:52 PM
started 7/2

looks gone sadly

Unlucky Horsey, value was there again but not the win. Keep them coming please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 15, 2014, 10:06:34 PM
4.20 Brighton 1pt win Pour La Victoire 9/2 and Hawk Moth 7/1 - btw Paddy Power offer significantly worse odds and money back 2nd/3rd this race

4 pts bet today and 1.5 pts profit thanks to Pour La Victoire.  Poor run from Economic Crisis despite being backed into 12-1 and with conditions seemingly in her favour.

Running totals since 4/9/14:

Loss     Amt Bet         ROI
-27.00      82.00     -32.93%


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 16, 2014, 09:33:56 AM
Came across this while meandering around the interweb, quite a story, didn't know about him before now...

http://www.godolphin.com/About-Us/People/Ahmed-Ajtebi/


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 16, 2014, 12:45:47 PM
4.15 Thirsk       Rapid Advance 6/1 W Hill and Emef Diamond 10/1   both 1pt e/w   just a play based on lto speed and draw


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 16, 2014, 02:42:10 PM
2.10 Thirsk 2nd and 3rd places from the first 4 stalls 8/1 and 20/1.  Had a great shot at getting the fav beat there, shame it got a run.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 16, 2014, 05:56:52 PM
4.15 Thirsk       Rapid Advance 6/1 W Hill and Emef Diamond 10/1   both 1pt e/w   just a play based on lto speed and draw


Emef Diamond well supported and with some justification, went off 6-1 finished 2nd , Rapid Advance finished in 4th and subsequently disqualified.
Anyway, another point lost today - fear not the tide will turn.

Running totals since 4/9/14:

Loss     Amt Bet         ROI
-28.00      86.00     -32.56%


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 16, 2014, 09:19:58 PM
Having an interest in Dr Parkes 5.00 Yarm tomorrow now it is firm.

Hoping SDS can tuck him in and come with a late run.

Chucked in on some old form, and worth a few quid ew at 18s, I reckon. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on September 18, 2014, 02:26:33 PM
One to back this afternoon, Ayr 240pm, Rise to Glory. General 8/1 shot, front runner, stiff 5furlong will suit, dencent jock on board and has a 50% strike rate at Ayr. Very good each way bet and on a going day will be hard to beat if he gets his own way up front. 2pts win.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 18, 2014, 07:40:35 PM
Had two bets on the Bronze cup tommorow 14's the field :)

Both Dandy beasts

Most on GALVANISE gone from Kevin Ryan to Dandy for this. Beaten at 2/5 behind Watchable here in a maiden now looks fair form! Couple of poor runs since but this mark looks very fair

Also backed FITZ FLYER certainly run some decent enough races this year, not sure why Dandy hasnt booked a 5lb claimer to offset the 4lbs out the weights but at 40's ill have a smaller bet

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 18, 2014, 08:19:53 PM
Polski Max....bit o rain please. NAP

12-1


Its going fast!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 18, 2014, 08:46:49 PM
sorry been a very busy and stressful week

Taken 28's and 40's

gd lk adz yours looks laid out for this


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 18, 2014, 10:22:43 PM
Now you've made me have a look as well - fun to try and solve these. I'll throw my hat in the ring with Gran Canaria Queen 16-1. Decent level of form and hope that draw may be a big help given the way the 5f race was won today by Orient Class going it alone up the stands rail. Good luck gents.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 19, 2014, 09:53:10 AM
Fancy laylas Hero, searchlight and Dissent e/w in the bronze cup and think ladweb is too long in the 3.10 afterwards


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on September 19, 2014, 02:31:19 PM
I got a big feeling we will expect a huge run today from Searchlight in the 1440 at Ayr. Up to 6furlongs today, will be held up and covered up to come late. Hopefully Spencer doesnt bury it deep up another nags behind and has one of his better rides. Was 16/1 earlier and represents a good each way bet and with a little luck in running today might be his day!

The 1510 is one on my follow list, Boris Grigoriev. Need everything to go right in this calvary charge but blinkers back on today and laid out for this! General 11/1, another little each way bet.

Good Luck All


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 19, 2014, 03:21:32 PM
Ayr - Hugh Taylor scores with Expose and the high draw. Hope he goes 2/2 with Imperial Legend in the next because I backed it at 16-1 last night , along with Classy Anne 22/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 19, 2014, 03:32:32 PM
Ayr - Hugh Taylor scores with Expose and the high draw. Hope he goes 2/2 with Imperial Legend in the next because I backed it at 16-1 last night , along with Classy Anne 22/1

huge draw advantage of the top 9 only one drawn lower then 15 (2 in 12) and that one tacked over to the high draw side


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on September 19, 2014, 04:34:53 PM
Really good shouts on Dissent and Ladweb, icles.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on September 19, 2014, 04:40:49 PM
[Sorry browser won't let me edit. Just get the loading... bar across the top]. T0te and Boils are still going going 12s on Blaine out of the 26 box in tomorrow's Gpld Cup. Anyone else fancy this?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 20, 2014, 03:26:59 PM

Crikey, anyone see Air Pilot? Abso hacked up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on September 20, 2014, 03:39:14 PM

Crikey, anyone see Air Pilot? Abso hacked up.

They speak to the trainer before the race. He says:

- Only run five times and is now a five year old
- Struggles to find conditions and fitness
- Now running well, has course, distance and conditions in his favour

They go to the studio and Cunningham says "he's not giving much away there".

Tongue firmly in cheek there. Can't imagine the owners would be agreeing for the trainer to give it a run for fits and giggles when the next run could be months away.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 20, 2014, 03:45:47 PM

Crikey, anyone see Air Pilot? Abso hacked up.

They speak to the trainer before the race. He says:

- Only run five times and is now a five year old
- Struggles to find conditions and fitness
- Now running well, has course, distance and conditions in his favour

They go to the studio and Cunningham says "he's not giving much away there".

Tongue firmly in cheek there. Can't imagine the owners would be agreeing for the trainer to give it a run for fits and giggles when the next run could be months away.

That interview was a classic of it's kind, wonderful to watch the trainer trying to throw Emma off the scent.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 21, 2014, 09:43:57 AM
Anyone have any thoughts on Odeliz in 3.55 Gowran, currently 4-1. I thought she set the standard here form wise. Just concerned about ground, (gd to firm, gd in places and seems little prospect of any significant further rain) trainer says she is really ground dependent and as this is being treated as a prep race for the Grade One EP Taylor Stakes at Woodbine on October 19th, doubt she will be given a hard time especially if they feel the ground's against her.
Form of the favourite's races doesn't seem to have worked out too well - evens seems too short to me.  Maybe I'll back both Odeliz and Regardez win only.

Anyway 2pts Odeliz 4-1 Boyles  2pts Regardez 9/2 various


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 21, 2014, 09:59:22 AM
Hi Simon.

A tongue in cheek reply would be that it sounds like it doesn't matter what anyone says, as you have backed it already, despite the trainer suggesting this is a warm up and the conditions not being ideal!

On the other hand the horse has been mixing It in similar races and doing ok, regardless of the ground,from what I can see in the form.

At 4-1 there isn't much room for error, but the over rider for me is that it is all about securing black type with fillies, and this looks a good opportunity in a moderate field, and Ireland is a way to go for just a run out!

In other words, I would take everything Karl Burke says with a pich of salt. It's some nice words to fall back on if she gets beat.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 21, 2014, 11:02:55 AM
Ha ha, you could be right about having backed it already, think I'ld be all in though on good to soft. Thanks for your thoughts, appreciate it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 22, 2014, 01:04:22 PM
Pretty amazing this

Kingsgate Native runs in a conditions event tomorrow

Nothing special there however this is his first start outside group or listed level since his 66/1 debut 43 starts ago

Must be a record


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 23, 2014, 08:50:31 AM
Tiggy wiggy 11/8 for saturday, runs it wins?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on September 23, 2014, 09:11:22 AM

Terror ran about a second faster than a 76 rated horse carrying 8lbs less so with weight for age is presumably near 110 rating and will improve, so think its just the same old "established form vs possible improver".


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 23, 2014, 02:39:20 PM

Terror ran about a second faster than a 76 rated horse carrying 8lbs less so with weight for age is presumably near 110 rating and will improve, so think its just the same old "established form vs possible improver".

Terror needs to improve a whole bunch (which in part is entitled to do).

Robins park ( r 5lb) beaten by 5l grandads world  (g 11lb) beaten by 7l Bonds girl  (r 15lb) beaten 8l tiggy wiggy

Obviously this isnt a fair comparison  but shows the gulf in class between form lines

Beating robins park by 10l is far from group 1 form tiggy wiggy has shown.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 23, 2014, 03:11:14 PM
Pretty amazing this

Kingsgate Native runs in a conditions event tomorrow

Nothing special there however this is his first start outside group or listed level since his 66/1 debut 43 starts ago

Must be a record

Like  Noble Storm for this race if the ground stays firm.

If KN replicates its form vs mirza then these would stand no chance but dont think it understands the game.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 23, 2014, 04:14:22 PM
grand old stick


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 23, 2014, 04:18:55 PM
retired now hopefully, lovely subtle ride from crowley......

burning thread run really well considering its rated 20 less then KN


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on September 23, 2014, 06:05:52 PM
I backed TiggyWiggy yesterday at that price on Corals. Seen as some were already quoting 4/5 seemed a good thing. Plus I like that horse


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on September 23, 2014, 06:38:18 PM
Tiggy wiggy 11/8 for saturday, runs it wins?

I was at York when she won the Lowther.

She got incredibly worked up in the paddock, bucking and kicking and generally behaving awfully.

It was a great exhibition of horsemanship by Hughes to get her down to the start in one piece without boiling over completely.

However, because of her temperament, I don't think she's one to take a short price about.

One day she'll lose the plot altogether and lose a race before she even starts it.

She is clearly the best horse in the race, but I'll let her win at 11/8.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 24, 2014, 10:31:15 AM
Interesting Gosden has supplemented Tendu into that race

Did a group time at Kempton last time and he must think capable of taking the big step up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on September 24, 2014, 11:05:59 AM
hope grandeur has an easy time


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on September 24, 2014, 05:28:51 PM
hope grandeur has an easy time

And it did


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on September 26, 2014, 09:54:45 AM
Good Morning All. Great Sporting week ahead!

Early word this morning for Glasgow Central in the 530pm at Newmarket. General 14/1 probably wont last long if the info from the yard is correct. Good luck all Playing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 26, 2014, 12:33:39 PM
OOO

Been waiting for Showboating to run over a mile plus for ages.

He is bang out of form, but the 1.1m of the Silver Cambridgeshire could be just what he needs. 5.00 New

I see MCCabe has booked Fallon, a good thing in most eyes(I'm not so sure these days), but the horse needs scrubbing along and not many stronger than our Mr Fallon. At 50-1 and 5 places worth a shilling or two.

I am also having a much larger bet on Island Remede in the 2.10.

A bit of a cliff horse but some better ground and uphill finish, and rated not too far off the best of these I think 14s represents excellent ew value.

GL all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 26, 2014, 12:53:46 PM
Been keeping an eye on two trainers coming back to form

Eric Alston is a bit more obvious as has had two winners this week, backed King of Paradise at 10's last night in the very tricky apprentice heat at Haddock (5.20) small bet

Second trainer is Declan Carroll very poor year really but did similar last season before waking up for the all weather season. He has had four horses run above themselves at prices this week without winning. Glasgon in the first at Wolverhampton is hard to assess and could well be rubbish but another small bet at 20's.

He has lots of entries the next few days and i particularly like his tommorow


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 26, 2014, 01:08:11 PM
Good Morning All. Great Sporting week ahead!

Early word this morning for Glasgow Central in the 530pm at Newmarket. General 14/1 probably wont last long if the info from the yard is correct. Good luck all Playing.


Freddie.

Available at 18s after a drift. What say you mate? Still a bet?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 26, 2014, 01:14:47 PM
1-40 Zibelina always comes good in the autumn and last run looked like a freshner after a few months off.
2-10 Long View finally got it last run and when you question why stoute runs one its usually a bet
2-40 Fadhayyil/ What say you similar profiles both potential improvers
3-15 Custom Cut owe it a load and it seems underrated every running, Outstrip will come good at some stage aswell
3-45 Nabucco another autumn horse altho better in soft
5-00 rees rascal ew unl last race as winner stole it, puzzle time ew race might suit at big price


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on September 26, 2014, 03:33:56 PM
Deffo Adz. I had a tickle at each way 14s, and a few more tickles at 16s and 18s. The word was good and i dont hear much from this fella these days, so im gonna stick me neck out and go in again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on September 26, 2014, 05:37:16 PM
OOO

Been waiting for Showboating to run over a mile plus for ages.

He is bang out of form, but the 1.1m of the Silver Cambridgeshire could be just what he needs. 5.00 New

I see MCCabe has booked Fallon, a good thing in most eyes(I'm not so sure these days), but the horse needs scrubbing along and not many stronger than our Mr Fallon. At 50-1 and 5 places worth a shilling or two.

I am also having a much larger bet on Island Remede in the 2.10.

A bit of a cliff horse but some better ground and uphill finish, and rated not too far off the best of these I think 14s represents excellent ew value.

GL all

Went 2/1 ir


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 26, 2014, 05:39:09 PM
OOO

Been waiting for Showboating to run over a mile plus for ages.

He is bang out of form, but the 1.1m of the Silver Cambridgeshire could be just what he needs. 5.00 New

I see MCCabe has booked Fallon, a good thing in most eyes(I'm not so sure these days), but the horse needs scrubbing along and not many stronger than our Mr Fallon. At 50-1 and 5 places worth a shilling or two.

I am also having a much larger bet on Island Remede in the 2.10.

A bit of a cliff horse but some better ground and uphill finish, and rated not too far off the best of these I think 14s represents excellent ew value.

GL all


Made a nice profit on the lay so shouldn't grumble, but not the way I anticipated.

For a hold up horse trying a new trip, I wonder what Fallon was thinking.

Can't please some people huh?!!   LOL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 26, 2014, 06:20:56 PM
9/2 king of paradise

more value pie here

Have backed Carrolls four tomorrow all at monster prices


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on September 27, 2014, 11:29:17 AM
Really fancy QUEENSBURY RULES today in the cambridgeshire , had a few each way lumps at 16/1 with baldfred who seems to have taken over the high streets in Essex. If you can find better place terms I think its a cracking bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 27, 2014, 03:40:36 PM
tiggy wiggy scandanavian for free money


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on September 27, 2014, 03:50:53 PM
tiggy wiggy scandanavian for free money

fantastic creature, Hughes thinks thats she has plenty left in the tank!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on September 27, 2014, 04:05:22 PM
tiggy wiggy scandanavian for free money

fantastic creature, Hughes thinks thats she has plenty left in the tank!!


Desperate to ride her in france but she was unchallenged and barely ridden visually (altho she looks like she gives 100% and doesnt need ridden). Cant understand not running in france if she is right the way horse racing goes.

Always good to watch that kind of class especially when the horse is so willing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on September 27, 2014, 04:40:03 PM
She's a game little whippet and I'd love to see her run but she's never going to have it that easy - ducking out of the parade ring, making her own pace - in France.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on September 27, 2014, 04:49:07 PM
shockingly bad run :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 28, 2014, 01:47:18 PM
One that caught my eye today

Finn Class in 3.05 Muss

First time with Dods who is having a cracking season. Left Bell, who has been under a cloud all season, but not been too far off in several races.

Bit of early money around.

Had a little ew @5s. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 29, 2014, 08:57:22 PM
Its that wonderful time of year again when all the Novice Chasers come out to play, and some great opportunities appear.

Today, for instance, Court Minstrel went off Evens, yet should probably been 1/2 on all known form(not that I will look to back him next time, having dragged its hind legs through every fence)

Tomorrow, we have Creepy, that looked a stayer to follow, on several occasions, last year.

3.40 @Chepstow he runs in a handicap nervous chase, and looks well in, especially as he looked a chaser. 3-1 looks a bargain.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on September 30, 2014, 12:32:00 PM
just read ryan moores blog from saturday on betfair regarding queensbury rules he basically wrote the thing off as a no channer with no room for improvement left in it..... It went into my notebook after some lumpy bets went in for the thing to win the royal hunt cup ...if i'dve read his blog id've saved myself a few quid .


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on September 30, 2014, 04:13:37 PM
Its that wonderful time of year again when all the Novice Chasers come out to play, and some great opportunities appear.

Today, for instance, Court Minstrel went off Evens, yet should probably been 1/2 on all known form(not that I will look to back him next time, having dragged its hind legs through every fence)

Tomorrow, we have Creepy, that looked a stayer to follow, on several occasions, last year.

3.40 @Chepstow he runs in a handicap nervous chase, and looks well in, especially as he looked a chaser. 3-1 looks a bargain.

Nice one Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 30, 2014, 04:38:06 PM
Good shout with Creepy, Adz.



just read ryan moores blog from saturday on betfair regarding queensbury rules he basically wrote the thing off as a no channer with no room for improvement left in it..... It went into my notebook after some lumpy bets went in for the thing to win the royal hunt cup ...if i'dve read his blog id've saved myself a few quid .

Was a cliff horse for Adz and I, but we got out of jail when it won LTO.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 30, 2014, 04:38:52 PM
Cheers fellas.

Even with the R4 still paid almost 5/2 with McBok

Looks a decent prospect.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on September 30, 2014, 05:15:51 PM
Great as usual, thanks mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 30, 2014, 05:27:38 PM
You read One Jump Ahead yet, Adz?

I've got it here, but not had a chance to get stuck in yet... Gonna try and work my way through it over the next few days, even though half of it makes no sense to me :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 30, 2014, 05:32:08 PM
You read One Jump Ahead yet, Adz?

I've got it here, but not had a chance to get stuck in yet... Gonna try and work my way through it over the next few days, even though half of it makes no sense to me :D


Not yet, but thanks for the nudge. Will get it ordered.

Another one you should get is Jumping Prospects. Cheap and cheerful but good early season companions. Need to sort that out too!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on September 30, 2014, 05:36:57 PM
Cheers for the tip Adz :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on September 30, 2014, 06:29:12 PM
Cheers for the book recs. I was going to ask if anyone liked any of the '...to follow' type of books.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on September 30, 2014, 06:31:20 PM
Cheers fellas.

Even with the R4 still paid almost 5/2 with McBok

Looks a decent prospect.

well done mate

Another wing for Chateau Chopoff on its way?



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 01, 2014, 12:37:02 AM
Really like the look of Woody Bay in the 5.10 at Newcastle tomorrow.

Left the hapless James Given stable and moved to the upwardly mobile Mark Walford yard.

Immediately bounced back to last season's form on the first outings for MW, placing at 20/1.

Think he's a fair bit better than his current mark, and Walford has booked his "job" jockey Jason Hart for the mount.

Draw evidence is a bit patchy. By the looks the things high is best, but low isn't too bad, it's the middle you really don't want.

8/1 each way looks good to me. But beware those pesky non runners.


If someone could get me a small bet on with Bet366, Paddy, BF Sportsbook or Skaibet I'd appreciate it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 01, 2014, 01:59:31 AM
GL with those Simon.

I was very keen on a few quid on Woody Bay in that race on his first turn out for Mark Walford. Owner looked to have two in its last race and was going to sell which ever was beat the most. Had a rough passage and thought it was one to note. Back to a winnable mark and been running ok. Draw puts me off a bit, but its been done before. At 25s, I can take a chance.

Very keen on following up New Providence at Salisbury. 9/2 looks ok.


Not quite in Simons league but happy to take a 25-1 place and 9/2 winner. ;)


Great minds Mr H.

I got probably got there a race too soon, but as a cliff man, was going in again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 01, 2014, 08:30:07 AM
Good luck lads

I like Fujin at 16's in the 5.40

Had a handful of starts for Noel Wilson and moves to Shaun Harris today. Harris having best ever season by a mile and has used first time blinkers to other new inmates with success.

When you throw in at least three of its runs for Wilson suggest this mark is at least fair he rates a small bet for me


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 01, 2014, 08:49:40 AM
Arctic Feeling in the 1650 at Notts.

Stopped more times than the Weymouth to Bristol Temple Meads train a couple starts ago at the Curragh, and still only beaten 2 lengths by Watchable.

Also, ran well at Ayr LTO, and I'm going to bet it until it wins :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on October 01, 2014, 11:57:39 AM
Sorry my last few mentions have been fairly crap!

However day off today and have come across 2 nags highly tipped up by a contact whos at Salisbury today and 2 i have been following this season.

Tobacco Road(11/10) and Basem(13/8) pays a tidy near 9/2 double in the 1520 and 1555 at Salisbury, both expected to run out winners in todays class.

1620 at Norttingham runs Weekend at Bernies,one we had a word for a few races back and really dissapointed. Already money for it this morning 12/1 into 9/1. trip and ground look ideal and hope today is the day to catch it in the winners circle. Fancy this quite a bit today and will have a good bet each way on now and might have another nibble later.

Another one that went in the note book was Bridgekeeper in the 1510pm race at Nottingham, looked like it was being kept back for an assault on a tasty little Nursery Handicap in the two maiden races it ran in recently, and Tate and Eustace are quite succesful with their foray into Nurserys of late. General 8/1 shot and been snippets of money for it already, but what was an 8 runner race is now a 7 runner and the each way value has probably gone. Might have a few points win regardless as it will win a race very soon.

Another Yard we follow is Brian Meehan, and he has had an awful year for his standards. There was apparently a lot expected of Able Spirit in its first run on the all weather on debut, but reportedly didnt like the surface. 210pm race today at Nottingham, quite a tasty maiden, but around the 14/1 shot might also be worth a little dabble each way.

Good Luck anyone considering playing :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 01, 2014, 12:15:46 PM
Good luck to

Following Brian Meehan must be a very painful exercise :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on October 01, 2014, 12:17:26 PM
Certainly has been the last 2 years, but prior to that, when backing the right ones, was always a very fruitful exercise in the past!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 01, 2014, 12:19:56 PM
Good luck to

Following Brian Meehan must be a very painful exercise :)

Every bloody horse Meehan trains is apparently a group winner in the making.

Wonder if he over rates for his own ego or to gee up his owners.

Reminds me somewhat of Pat Eddery. If I had a tenner every time Eddery claimed a horse he'd just won on was "the best I've ever ridden" I'd have a lot of tenners!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 01, 2014, 12:21:33 PM
Good luck to

Following Brian Meehan must be a very painful exercise :)


Wonderful facilities, wasted on him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 01, 2014, 12:23:38 PM
No offence to Beech but yes agreed, hardly a contrarian view mind


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 01, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
As suspected Meehans horse looked a right hound.

Head high, reluctant....yuk


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: peejaytwo on October 01, 2014, 05:25:35 PM
Paddy paying 4 places in the 5.20 notts


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 01, 2014, 05:42:00 PM
Woody Bay behaving like Adz when he's having one of his tantrums.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 01, 2014, 05:50:06 PM
Woody Bay behaving like Adz when he's having one of his tantrums.

Run well, think it would appreciate a slight drop in distance (backed up with a decent couple of runs over 7f in its past).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 01, 2014, 05:51:33 PM
Painful ten mins

Woody beat and then over to Notts where I had a good ew bet on Ellan ally, who finishes a whisker second to....a James Given horse. Grrrr


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 01, 2014, 05:53:24 PM
Painful ten mins

Woody beat and then over to Notts where I had a good ew bet on Ellan ally, who finishes a whisker second to....a James Given horse. Grrrr

The stands side rail have been a golden highway pretty much all season at Notts.

Yours would definitely have won if drawn there


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 01, 2014, 05:56:47 PM
Painful ten mins

Woody beat and then over to Notts where I had a good ew bet on Ellan ally, who finishes a whisker second to....a James Given horse. Grrrr

The stands side rail have been a golden highway pretty much all season at Notts.

Yours would definitely have won if drawn there


Yes, I think its Taurus Twins has had two saunters up that near rail if memory serves. If we can see it, it makes you wonder why the jocks dont?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 01, 2014, 06:11:43 PM
I think the only trainer that hasn't stuck two fingers up to us today is Meehan.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 01, 2014, 06:12:47 PM
Beaten by a Noel Wilson horse!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on October 01, 2014, 06:22:09 PM
 Since i stopped my degen/ice-creamy/goliath betting ways and only bet the big races / group ones i love searching through the results to see how you fellas are doing on a wet Wednesday (saddo), unlucky today and keep on keeping on :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 01, 2014, 06:26:12 PM
Since i stopped my degen/ice-creamy/goliath betting ways and only bet the big races / group ones i love searching through the results to see how you fellas are doing on a wet Wednesday (saddo), unlucky today and keep on keeping on :)

funny, in the last 10 years I've totally changed my betting habits on racing.

I used to be Saturdays/big races mainly.

But everything is so over analysed now there is rarely value around in big races on the day (discarding special offers obv).

Thought today was a cracking days racing. All the cards were great. Found 6 interesting bets at big prices, which I'd never find at Royal Ascot.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on October 01, 2014, 06:27:54 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/tipping-centre/horse-racing-betting-tips

Ever read this guy?

Saw today - 1-2 for @ReinManRacing in Nottm 15:45 as Donny Rover (5/1) pips Ocean Applause (22/1). Read his picks for Nottm 16:50 http://bit.ly/oUXQAK

Up 300 points in 2014 supposedly.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 01, 2014, 06:28:27 PM
Hope one or two copped Keith?



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 01, 2014, 06:32:18 PM
Finally given up on lord of the dance tonight....

Once again hes been nibbled early but this time without me

Run well but preferably dont win old warrior


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 01, 2014, 06:36:49 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/tipping-centre/horse-racing-betting-tips

Ever read this guy?

Saw today - 1-2 for @ReinManRacing in Nottm 15:45 as Donny Rover (5/1) pips Ocean Applause (22/1). Read his picks for Nottm 16:50 http://bit.ly/oUXQAK

Up 300 points in 2014 supposedly.


I often look at his stuff and have often thought of writing to oddschecker to offer my services, as he is so poor. If he is 300 points up, well......either he changed his staking system and had a fluke 100pts on a 20-1 winner, or I'd love to know when he doctored his numbers. Horsey and I have discussed a couple of times just how bad he is, and how he keeps his job.

Every dog etc.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 01, 2014, 06:41:41 PM
Hope one or two copped Keith?



1 winner and 2 places, means a nice glass of brandy while watching the football tonight :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 01, 2014, 07:10:23 PM
Hope one or two copped Keith?



1 winner and 2 places, means a nice glass of brandy while watching the football tonight :)

well done mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: peejaytwo on October 02, 2014, 05:32:30 PM
paddys offer today is to pay 4 spots in the 6.15 Kempton.

i usually bet off the show whatevers close to the sharp minds of bf,esp on the place market.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on October 02, 2014, 05:59:58 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/tipping-centre/horse-racing-betting-tips

rein man crushes again ll


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 02, 2014, 07:20:01 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/tipping-centre/horse-racing-betting-tips

rein man crushes again ll


I'm sure I could post up Pricewise/Linfoot/Hugh Taylor etc every time they post a winner mate. Not sure what purpose it serves the rest of us after the event? Feel free to take over the aftertime avatar, if you want it that much! ;)

I'm presuming you had a nice touch?

if so WP.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on October 02, 2014, 08:01:32 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/tipping-centre/horse-racing-betting-tips

rein man crushes again ll


I'm sure I could post up Pricewise/Linfoot/Hugh Taylor etc every time they post a winner mate. Not sure what purpose it serves the rest of us after the event? Feel free to take over the aftertime avatar, if you want it that much! ;)

I'm presuming you had a nice touch?

if so WP.

Haha, I didn't bet his selections, I just remembered to have a look at how he had done, you can keep that avatar ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 03, 2014, 01:30:48 AM
I'm giving old Smarty Socks his last chance today in the first at Ascot.

Based on the summer, he is well drawn low,

Well in on old form

Course and Distance winner

Been some money for him already.

Trainer and Jockey in form, despite some of SS recent rides rides being, modest, at best...

Good Luck old mate. 9-1, should get back what you owe me!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on October 03, 2014, 03:40:55 PM
Another one from the note book. Nezar, Ascot 1615pm today. Plenty of 16/1 about still, useful 2 year old for Haggis last season. Group placed twice if my memory serves me right. Back to form last time out for Margarson tried in a visor. Likes to get its own way out in front and perfect track and distance today after a good place last time out. Expect a big run today if any improvement from last run and visor works again. A winner in waiting said my notes. 2.5 pts each way. Good Luck.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 03, 2014, 05:10:49 PM
Just A Way will win the Arc if it stays imo. Its a big if but horses from Japan dont get that many opportunities of the ilk of mile opportunities and plenty that had question marks have come and seen it out very well. Im a big taghrooda fan but think Just A Way on its day is totally unstoppable. Cant see how they could be so naive as to no make a decent pace but it would be an even bigger fancy if they have the typical french daudle.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 03, 2014, 09:23:09 PM
Kindlelight Storm at 9-20 Wolv looks a decent shout 11/1 back at 9f


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 03, 2014, 11:24:41 PM
Struggling to see why Minalisa is as big as 9/4 tomorrow.

The best horse, in cracking form, on ground she relishes.

Like the jockey booking too.

Looks like a genuine 5/4 poke to me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 04, 2014, 09:29:34 AM
Steps look very big at 7-1 in the first at Ascot to repeat last years win.

Muthmir looks like he could be  a sprinting god, so we need the ew, but that said he hasn't shined on anything other than good firm ground.

Steps has the majestic Double A on board, and I suspect for a soft ground horse this was always one of the season targets. Gl


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 04, 2014, 09:33:52 AM
Probably going to be heavy everywhere at this rate

The old boy Hajjes in the last at Redcar is my only bet

Adores soft/heavy ground been running fine this season win only as 15 runners likely to be a lot less come the off

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 04, 2014, 11:03:54 AM
Struggling to see why Minalisa is as big as 9/4 tomorrow.

The best horse, in cracking form, on ground she relishes.

Like the jockey booking too.

Looks like a genuine 5/4 poke to me.

With the rain coming, I've pretty much closed this bet out with a tiny loss.

Can't be as confident without the rattling fast ground she prefers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on October 04, 2014, 03:37:01 PM

limato's owners googling "ungelding operation"


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 04, 2014, 04:08:08 PM

limato's owners googling "ungelding operation"

Think 365 need to google it aswell


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 04, 2014, 04:46:59 PM
Minalisa out of the 16:40.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 04, 2014, 06:33:50 PM
Nice one Horsey.

A day saver!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 04, 2014, 06:40:55 PM
Probably going to be heavy everywhere at this rate

The old boy Hajjes in the last at Redcar is my only bet

Adores soft/heavy ground been running fine this season win only as 15 runners likely to be a lot less come the off

gd lk all

wp


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 04, 2014, 07:16:28 PM
Nice one Horsey.

A day saver!
More a bit of damage limitation, than a day saver for me, but still very welcome - thank you Horsey


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 04, 2014, 07:51:15 PM
Sizing Europe- Legend


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 12:03:11 PM
The old boy

Cheers all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 12:51:55 PM
ARC DAY

Firstly Zeturf.com is my site of choice to keepuptodate with the live pmu odds. If anybody cant bet into the pools with 365 or anyone else they are fine to use to punt with as well (offer a fair deposit bonus i think)#

Managed a massive £9 on justaway in the arc at 20/1 a long time ago.

ABBAYE

Quite simple this for me, im betting without Sole Power without doubt the best animal in the race and if he gets the same gaps as he has this season will win. This is probably the worst sprint track in the world to try and make late headway from a bad draw so im concentrating on the low drawn speedy types.

Have backed or will back Take Cover,Hamza and Justineo either over here or pmu come race time, all win and place and with some very small combos as well (forecasts) All have pace and all love fast ground

MARCEL BOUSSAC =no idea = no bet

JEAN-LUC 2 YR OLD RACE = no idea = no bet

PRIX DE LOPERA = have an idea come back to later

ARC

Really think there is little between so many of these and as such have gone for a big price. Prince Gibraltar loves fast ground likes a battle and has a good draw backed him at 33's with hills a few days ago, couldnt be confident. Also going to put up small backs of Gold Ship in running at 20;sish,40'sish and 100's complete nutjob often drops out the back and rattles home, hopefully a few watching arent aware of this.


ARAB RACE = eat food drink tea

FORET = NO BET

PRIX DU CADRAN = NO BET


gd lk all





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on October 05, 2014, 01:13:24 PM
B365, hills and others going 4 places in the Abbaye.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 05, 2014, 01:16:44 PM
Super Ryan Moore in the first, I hope!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on October 05, 2014, 01:22:30 PM
Rangali looks big at 16/1 4 places to me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 01:28:08 PM
had a very fair bet Take Cover on the pmu about 18's

far to big will lead these im pretty sure Kirby super booking


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 05, 2014, 01:28:30 PM
ARC DAY

Firstly Zeturf.com is my site of choice to keepuptodate with the live pmu odds. If anybody cant bet into the pools with 365 or anyone else they are fine to use to punt with as well (offer a fair deposit bonus i think)#

Managed a massive £9 on justaway in the arc at 20/1 a long time ago.

ABBAYE

Quite simple this for me, im betting without Sole Power without doubt the best animal in the race and if he gets the same gaps as he has this season will win. This is probably the worst sprint track in the world to try and make late headway from a bad draw so im concentrating on the low drawn speedy types.

Have backed or will back Take Cover,Hamza and Justineo either over here or pmu come race time, all win and place and with some very small combos as well (forecasts) All have pace and all love fast ground

MARCEL BOUSSAC =no idea = no bet

JEAN-LUC 2 YR OLD RACE = no idea = no bet

PRIX DE LOPERA = have an idea come back to later

ARC

Really think there is little between so many of these and as such have gone for a big price. Prince Gibraltar loves fast ground likes a battle and has a good draw backed him at 33's with hills a few days ago, couldnt be confident. Also going to put up small backs of Gold Ship in running at 20;sish,40'sish and 100's complete nutjob often drops out the back and rattles home, hopefully a few watching arent aware of this.


ARAB RACE = eat food drink tea

FORET = NO BET

PRIX DU CADRAN = NO BET


gd lk all





Thanks John, have followed your Abbaye picks. (Without Sole Power)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 05, 2014, 01:31:40 PM
Rangali looks big at 16/1 4 places to me.

Oooh, great shout, just touched off I think.

Would have had a fiver EW if you had posted earlier.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
should have followed Doobs!

Ul there O'Meara really is a genius



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 05, 2014, 01:36:25 PM
should have followed Doobs!

Ul there O'Meara really is a genius



I would if I had seen it in time.

Great race though.

Seems very odd, if I heard correctly, that there are no furlong markers at Longchamp?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 01:37:47 PM
Always exciting

Not on the sprint track i believe

That camera angle is always a killer


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 01:39:19 PM
should have followed Doobs!

Ul there O'Meara really is a genius



I would if I had seen it in time.

Great race though.

Seems very odd, if I heard correctly, that there are no furlong markers at Longchamp?

Its an awful race. In any sport you want to see the best win not see who gets lucky in running.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 01:39:47 PM
Despite the draw is anybody going to be able to resist backing Kingston Hill at 40's-50's on the Pmu?

Not sure i can


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 01:40:12 PM
should have followed Doobs!

Ul there O'Meara really is a genius



I would if I had seen it in time.

Great race though.

Seems very odd, if I heard correctly, that there are no furlong markers at Longchamp?

Its an awful race. In any sport you want to see the best win not see who gets lucky in running.

The winner got bumped twice and then stopped once



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 01:41:09 PM
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzLrD1bCUAE97DE.png)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 05, 2014, 01:41:20 PM
Very deceptive angle especially for people who were on Moviesta :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 01:42:57 PM
should have followed Doobs!

Ul there O'Meara really is a genius



I would if I had seen it in time.

Great race though.

Seems very odd, if I heard correctly, that there are no furlong markers at Longchamp?

Its an awful race. In any sport you want to see the best win not see who gets lucky in running.

The winner got bumped twice and then stopped once



The winner couldnt beat handicappers previously.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 01:46:18 PM
Beaten half a length in a group 3 last time

Not much put arguing met trouble but still one loads of others met trouble didnt win impossible to prove either way


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 05, 2014, 01:46:33 PM
Guess that's even more tribute to O'Meara's talent as a trainer then.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 01:52:50 PM
Guess that's even more tribute to O'Meara's talent as a trainer then.

Ginger tho


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 01:55:30 PM
Beaten half a length in a group 3 last time

Not much put arguing met trouble but still one loads of others met trouble didnt win impossible to prove either way

By the horse in fifth that your pic shows jockey back in saddle



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 05, 2014, 01:56:48 PM
Guess that's even more tribute to O'Meara's talent as a trainer then.

Ginger tho

I'm sure that troubles him greatly...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 05, 2014, 02:20:06 PM
Currently cursed by owt I post on Blonde, but if you dare.

Knight of Pleasure 3.40 Hunt, is expected to make up into a decent chaser.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 02:26:20 PM
If the form all worked out to the pound each time we would all be retired and there wouldnt be punting on it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 02:31:30 PM
I only disputed theres anything great about a race where half them dont get a run


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 02:39:34 PM
Camera work is absolutely appalling


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 05, 2014, 02:47:34 PM
Camera work is absolutely appalling


Its the French. Dramatic/ Artistic views rather than what we want to see.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 05, 2014, 02:48:10 PM
The super slo-mo shows well the fortunate son's hitting his horse in the belly not on the flank. :s


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 02:53:38 PM
Camera work is absolutely appalling


Its the French. Dramatic/ Artistic views rather than what we want to see.

It went upside down after half a furlong and in the abbaye they were 8 lengths down the field.

Seems the camerawork isnt the biggest joke in france.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 05, 2014, 02:55:17 PM
Any periods about?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 05, 2014, 02:56:30 PM
Any periods about?

!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 05, 2014, 03:01:08 PM
Any periods about?
............................


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 03:03:07 PM
Wouldnt that get me into the clique, considering its full of *****?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on October 05, 2014, 03:03:36 PM
FML, biggest bet of the day gets placed third!!! Argh the French!! ( no worries Adz will get it back at 15:40)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 03:05:50 PM
FML, biggest bet of the day gets placed third!!! Argh the French!! ( no worries Adz will get it back at 15:40)

Yeah getting raped more times in paris then the women in taken


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 05, 2014, 03:12:47 PM
FML, biggest bet of the day gets placed third!!! Argh the French!! ( no worries Adz will get it back at 15:40)
I wouldn't have that jockey carrying anything more than my shopping in from the car. More Jonah than Job. [that's menstrual enough, Ed.] ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 05, 2014, 03:18:29 PM
Wouldnt that get me into the clique, considering its full of *****?


Blimey. Your going to make me look like a decent bloke at this rate.

And that will take some doing! ;dingdell;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 03:20:30 PM
Ideally would be good if this thread didnt drop to the level of the betfair forum


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 03:22:21 PM
Wouldnt that get me into the clique, considering its full of *****?


Blimey. Your going to make me look like a decent bloke at this rate.

And that will take some doing! ;dingdell;

Whats the pay, this seems like a full time job?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 05, 2014, 03:23:23 PM
Ideally would be good if this thread didnt drop to the level of the betfair forum

Agreed, but it will not be allowed to happen.

Meanwhile, a great days racing from Longchamp, and all sorts happening, on and off the pitch, at Stamford Bridge.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 03:25:48 PM
Love the Arc

Hope someone from here cops the winner whoever it may be


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 05, 2014, 03:31:21 PM
Love the Arc

Hope someone from here cops the winner whoever it may be

For me, amongst my favourite days of the year in horse racing.

I went once, the year that Three Troikas won the Arc. That must have been the best part of 40 years ago. Three Troikas trainer? Criquette Head, who owned or trained the first winner today, and was, I thought, very gracious when asked to comment on the possible disqualification of the winner.

Some family, the Heads, jockey, trainers, breeders, owners.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 05, 2014, 03:32:35 PM
Love the Arc

Hope someone from here cops the winner whoever it may be

For me, amongst my favourite days of the year in horse racing.

I went once, the year that Three Troikas won the Arc. That must have been the best part of 40 years ago. Three Troikas trainer? Croquette Head, who owned or trained the first winner today, and was, I thought, very gracious when asked to comment on the possible disqualification of the winner.

Some family, the Heads, jockey, trainers, breeders, owners.

Would love to see Treve win, even though the Ectot cops me the most money.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 03:34:38 PM
Even though i don't like Treves chances would be happy to see her win for Adz and for the first class connections



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 05, 2014, 03:37:26 PM
 ;)
Ideally would be good if this thread didnt drop to the level of the betfair forum


Was actually trying to point out the same. Maybe I should have put up some dumb photo with Steve Bruce in it, and really add some class...... ;)


Best Sundays racing, same as Breeders is best Night racing!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 05, 2014, 03:45:40 PM
LOL @ Ectot/Treve/RotW all being 3.7 on the PMU


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 05, 2014, 03:48:33 PM
LOL @ Ectot/Treve/RotW all being 3.7 on the PMU

I assumed that was because all three are "linked" on the PMU?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 05, 2014, 04:00:44 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOMIO!!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on October 05, 2014, 04:00:55 PM
Booooooooom


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 04:01:16 PM
Magic

well done adzy scoop the lot


Horsey scoop a place?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on October 05, 2014, 04:01:28 PM
What a performance to come back after everything to win that


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 05, 2014, 04:01:51 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOMIO!!!!

In spades with knobs on too.  ;woohoo;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on October 05, 2014, 04:02:05 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOMIO!!!!


Great run, great trainer, great horse.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 04:03:27 PM
wowsers well done

What a performance got her well wrong, sell boyles shares? :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 05, 2014, 04:04:36 PM
Paiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii Boyles!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 04:05:04 PM
Amazing the "connection" she has with Jarnet

Seems to pull like absolute stink for him as well as travelling like a dream

amazing performance


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 05, 2014, 04:06:25 PM

Well done all.

Chuffed to bits for Criquette, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 05, 2014, 04:12:34 PM
LOL at Spoil Borts. Great shout for Flinstshire on Fred too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 04:12:47 PM
Adz back to reality at huntington ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 05, 2014, 04:13:25 PM
Even Adz cant win with a non runner tbf


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 04:15:56 PM
money back, feels like a win


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 05, 2014, 04:20:12 PM
Adz back to reality at huntington ;)


Not sure, when your contribution so far has been to moan all the time, if you have the earned the right to take the piss. That is reserved for the clique.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 04:26:44 PM
Adz back to reality at huntington ;)


Had a saver on Tail of Intrigue, so well up

well done


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on October 05, 2014, 04:37:13 PM

Well done all.

Chuffed to bits for Cliquette, too.

fyp


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 05, 2014, 04:49:21 PM

Well done all.

Chuffed to bits for Cliquette, too.

fyp

Ha!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 05, 2014, 04:58:36 PM
cliquette Head would explain alot here


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on October 05, 2014, 05:08:59 PM
cliquette Head would explain alot here

Hey

Not sure quite what got your goat earlier but can I ask you to knock it on the head please?

I tend to find that people get out what they put in to a forum like this. Snipe, and people will snipe back.

this thread and many others certainly are not cliques. Many people contribute, and we'd like that to continue

thank you


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 05, 2014, 09:33:00 PM
Heska may be worth a little bit ew at Ponte tomorrow. Currently 14s available in the 4.40

Now he is up to a distance his breeding suggests should be ideal, he ran a cracker last time at Kempton. Back on turf, I hope he continues the improvement.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 06, 2014, 02:48:52 PM
Matt Chapman giving Rich Ricci a grilling about his horses for the coming season

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1P_6UMQEg


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 06, 2014, 05:11:01 PM
Heska may be worth a little bit ew at Ponte tomorrow. Currently 14s available in the 4.40

Now he is up to a distance his breeding suggests should be ideal, he ran a cracker last time at Kempton. Back on turf, I hope he continues the improvement.



Too many dirty dogs at this time of the year on the flat. Many apologies.

I shall return when the jumps gets better. Adios.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 07, 2014, 11:46:19 AM
Heska may be worth a little bit ew at Ponte tomorrow. Currently 14s available in the 4.40

Now he is up to a distance his breeding suggests should be ideal, he ran a cracker last time at Kempton. Back on turf, I hope he continues the improvement.



Too many dirty dogs at this time of the year on the flat. Many apologies.

I shall return when the jumps gets better. Adios.

Horses over the top?

Or just ppl sending horses out for a bit of exercise?

Come back when you've got a 25/1 antepost tickle, cheers ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 07, 2014, 03:32:46 PM
Small bet for me today

Save the Bees 4.30 catterick continuing my Declan Carroll coming into form idea...

Sulked last time but down in grade today soft/heavy ground fine bit of money around looks ideal to be prominent at Catterick today 11/1 is just about a win bet


gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 07, 2014, 05:03:00 PM
that will win soon when it gets even a slightly less pressured lead

good run


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 07, 2014, 11:24:09 PM
Really like the look of Woody Bay in the 5.10 at Newcastle tomorrow.

Left the hapless James Given stable and moved to the upwardly mobile Mark Walford yard.

Immediately bounced back to last season's form on the first outings for MW, placing at 20/1.

Think he's a fair bit better than his current mark, and Walford has booked his "job" jockey Jason Hart for the mount.

Draw evidence is a bit patchy. By the looks the things high is best, but low isn't too bad, it's the middle you really don't want.

8/1 each way looks good to me. But beware those pesky non runners.


If someone could get me a small bet on with Bet366, Paddy, BF Sportsbook or Skaibet I'd appreciate it.

Runs again at nottingham 4.55



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 08, 2014, 10:51:47 AM
(N/R) 09:47.
Cheers though for the heads-up, Icles. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 08, 2014, 03:20:29 PM
(N/R) 09:47.
Cheers though for the heads-up, Icles. ;)

Like anyone isnt betting on the old legend The osteopath



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on October 09, 2014, 04:57:17 PM
Going to have another stab at one. Word reached a collegue of mine that Diamond Runner in the 1820 at Wolverhampton is a must back tonight. Dropped in trip, well thought of young jock up, and in a nursery with a few exposed types. Take a bit of 7/1 and pcik up thw winnings shortly after 630 :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on October 09, 2014, 05:12:49 PM

The race isn't a nursery its a claimer.  It seems to be ok in the weights vs most of the field so gl!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on October 09, 2014, 05:28:31 PM
Sorry nursery last time out, and dropped back in trip today. Good Luck.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 10, 2014, 03:05:32 PM
Burtons well looked a nice horse on debut at newton abbot 2-20 for V williams. Luckily for the horse its too young to run in the national aswell.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 10, 2014, 03:28:09 PM
Arctic Feeling in the 1650 at Notts.

Stopped more times than the Weymouth to Bristol Temple Meads train a couple starts ago at the Curragh, and still only beaten 2 lengths by Watchable.

Also, ran well at Ayr LTO, and I'm going to bet it until it wins :D


Unless I forget  ::)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 10, 2014, 03:32:14 PM
Arctic Feeling in the 1650 at Notts.

Stopped more times than the Weymouth to Bristol Temple Meads train a couple starts ago at the Curragh, and still only beaten 2 lengths by Watchable.

Also, ran well at Ayr LTO, and I'm going to bet it until it wins :D


Unless I forget  ::)

Oh no.

I thought at least you had a winner today.

You muppet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 10, 2014, 03:34:00 PM
Wasnt like it was a good price or anything.....

Unlucky exactly as you elluded too, clear run- wins


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 10, 2014, 03:34:43 PM
Arctic Feeling in the 1650 at Notts.

Stopped more times than the Weymouth to Bristol Temple Meads train a couple starts ago at the Curragh, and still only beaten 2 lengths by Watchable.

Also, ran well at Ayr LTO, and I'm going to bet it until it wins :D


Unless I forget  ::)

Oh no.

I thought at least you had a winner today.

You muppet.

Didn't check my emails last night, and only saw it was running as they loaded up :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 10, 2014, 03:36:02 PM
Burtons well looked a nice horse on debut at newton abbot 2-20 for V williams. Luckily for the horse its too young to run in the national aswell.....

Is that related to Burton's Port?

Adz and I had bundles on that for the National last year at 50s down, and it got mullered at the 2nd!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 10, 2014, 03:38:35 PM
Burtons well looked a nice horse on debut at newton abbot 2-20 for V williams. Luckily for the horse its too young to run in the national aswell.....

Is that related to Burton's Port?

Adz and I had bundles on that for the National last year at 50s down, and it got mullered at the 2nd!

Its trevor hemmings, same dam as burton port.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 10, 2014, 03:39:12 PM
Wasnt like it was a good price or anything.....

Unlucky exactly as you elluded too, clear run- wins

Yeah, luckily Swnymor is going to win the Cesarewitch tomorrow, and all will be forgotten.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 10, 2014, 03:46:36 PM
Wasnt like it was a good price or anything.....

Unlucky exactly as you elluded too, clear run- wins

Yeah, luckily Swnymor is going to win the Cesarewitch tomorrow, and all will be forgotten.


Doh.

Quinns horses are running, shall we say, a bit moody, atm. That said Moidore will probably dot up.

We must keep the faith mate!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 10, 2014, 03:54:28 PM
See Doyle won the first on the rag for him...

I've got faith, that we're getting weighed in, even from out there :)


Its trevor hemmings, same dam as burton port.

Just watched it then, won well didn't he.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 10, 2014, 04:56:32 PM
See Doyle won the first on the rag for him...

I've got faith, that we're getting weighed in, even from out there :)


Its trevor hemmings, same dam as burton port.

Just watched it then, won well didn't he.

Mount Beckham another nice debut aswell at carl in the 4:20. Rolling Maul a nice luckbox aswell.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 10, 2014, 07:30:49 PM
A nice jump race at Chepstow tomorrow.

5.30

Going to suggest a small win only bet on Victors Serenade @ 16/18s generally. A bit of a hit and miss horse, and hoping that his 1P1P2P record after a decent break is ready to strike again. He ran in this race last year and looked to have a major chance when stumbling badly and was immediately pulled up, when fav(I think), and while its a better race at the odds he is worth a chance. I know the stable have always thought he could be decent.
Sadly Aiden is riding the fav(Highland Lodge.Worth a saver methinks.Could be chucked in) and we have O'regan on board, so its not all roses!

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 10, 2014, 07:50:25 PM
A nice jump race at Chepstow tomorrow.

5.30

Going to suggest a small win only bet on Victors Serenade @ 16/18s generally. A bit of a hit and miss horse, and hoping that his 1P1P2P record after a decent break is ready to strike again. He ran in this race last year and looked to have a major chance when stumbling badly and was immediately pulled up, when fav(I think), and while its a better race at the odds he is worth a chance. I know the stable have always thought he could be decent.
Sadly Aiden is riding the fav(Highland Lodge.Worth a saver methinks.Could be chucked in) and we have O'regan on board, so its not all roses!

GL

Two of them PU came when tried over 3m4f+ (alternates to the one you mention last year), so excuses there. Think the horse is pretty genuine just makes alot of mistakes (dont think hes a races when he fancies like night alliance). not much 16s about so looks a solid bet, cheers.
gl
I like benbens and sam TD is retained for his dads horse (hasnt happened this season, altho maybe just retaining for this owner to stop him getting jocked off the new one/mahon may be top weights option anyway).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 11, 2014, 11:56:43 AM
Maybe worth a small ew bet on Flying Bandit in 2.35 Chep. 20-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 11, 2014, 12:43:56 PM
Like suegioo in the ces, obviously the draw isnt ideal but its best run came at chester over 2m2f he won handily and only found angel gabrial who has run creditably in top class company too good in the plate over 2m. Draw isnt ideal and its always vulnerable giving 20lb to anything but the horse seems to have been running creditably over inadequate distance below 2m.

Difficult to find a price and 6 place combo but 20/25 ew looks decent


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 11, 2014, 03:10:50 PM
Maybe worth a small ew bet on Flying Bandit in 2.35 Chep. 20-1

3rd, backed into 8-1 so decent result. More ew profits

Pulled way too hard, so worth noting.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 11, 2014, 03:27:04 PM
Maybe worth a small ew bet on Flying Bandit in 2.35 Chep. 20-1

3rd, backed into 8-1 so decent result. More ew profits

Pulled way too hard, so worth noting.

n1 ty front two look tidy, decent best of rest bet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on October 11, 2014, 04:11:31 PM
Got Nearly Caught at 16/1 and Groovejet at 28/1 both 5 places.   Can't really get on with the 6 places firms but good luck if you can. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on October 11, 2014, 04:13:51 PM
Like suegioo in the ces, obviously the draw isnt ideal but its best run came at chester over 2m2f he won handily and only found angel gabrial who has run creditably in top class company too good in the plate over 2m. Draw isnt ideal and its always vulnerable giving 20lb to anything but the horse seems to have been running creditably over inadequate distance below 2m.

Difficult to find a price and 6 place combo but 20/25 ew looks decent

Think 25/1 looks good for Suegioo of you got it.  Just tried and missed :(. Good luck.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 11, 2014, 04:21:02 PM
Swnymor/Digeanta antepost, and chucked a few quid on Argent Night & Jonny Delta @ 40s

Old man got me to back Suegioo for him icles, so you're probably nailed on now :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 11, 2014, 04:39:55 PM
Swnymor/Digeanta antepost, and chucked a few quid on Argent Night & Jonny Delta @ 40s

Old man got me to back Suegioo for him icles, so you're probably nailed on now :D

Mine had de riguer, better get the beers, strop coming lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 11, 2014, 06:04:02 PM
OI-OI Adzy  :-*


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 11, 2014, 06:17:13 PM
Swnymor/Digeanta antepost, and chucked a few quid on Argent Night & Jonny Delta @ 40s

Old man got me to back Suegioo for him icles, so you're probably nailed on now :D

Mine had de riguer, better get the beers, strop coming lol


Was on Adventure Seeker at 28s, so was heading for a strop myself, as that's the 2nd time it's looked like winning, and just failed...

Stropsville was looking likely, as my text to Adz earlier said, but he has saved the day!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 11, 2014, 06:24:24 PM
A nice jump race at Chepstow tomorrow.

5.30

Going to suggest a small win only bet on Victors Serenade @ 16/18s generally. A bit of a hit and miss horse, and hoping that his 1P1P2P record after a decent break is ready to strike again. He ran in this race last year and looked to have a major chance when stumbling badly and was immediately pulled up, when fav(I think), and while its a better race at the odds he is worth a chance. I know the stable have always thought he could be decent.
Sadly Aiden is riding the fav(Highland Lodge.Worth a saver methinks.Could be chucked in) and we have O'regan on board, so its not all roses!

GL


OiOI more winners on the Racing Thread.

Keep the faith lads.

Another 16-1 winner. OIOIOIOI. ;hattip; ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 11, 2014, 06:38:12 PM
A nice jump race at Chepstow tomorrow.

5.30

Going to suggest a small win only bet on Victors Serenade @ 16/18s generally. A bit of a hit and miss horse, and hoping that his 1P1P2P record after a decent break is ready to strike again. He ran in this race last year and looked to have a major chance when stumbling badly and was immediately pulled up, when fav(I think), and while its a better race at the odds he is worth a chance. I know the stable have always thought he could be decent.
Sadly Aiden is riding the fav(Highland Lodge.Worth a saver methinks.Could be chucked in) and we have O'regan on board, so its not all roses!

GL


OiOI more winners on the Racing Thread.

Keep the faith lads.

Another 16-1 winner. OIOIOIOI. ;hattip; ;hattip;

Day saver ty


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on October 12, 2014, 02:46:15 AM
Come on seefood at 4;40 limerick


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 14, 2014, 10:55:05 AM
There's another horse I'm interested in tomorrow.

Lady Yeates in the last.

Zoomed to the top of my horses to follow list with a wildly impressive win at Redcar, when she was so unfit she had a bigger belly than me.

Somewhat surprised Moore is running her at a speed track like Chester as she looks like she will improve the further she goes.

Going to throw away tuppence happenny on her at 8/1, but she is definitely one to watch tomorrow and in coming weeks. I think she could improve a stone on her current mark.
Lady Yeats runs tonight in 6.30 Beverley 4-1 at present

Finally stepped up to 2m today.

Softish ground ideal.

Great each way race.

One drink in last chance saloon gogogogogogogogogo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on October 14, 2014, 01:05:33 PM
There's another horse I'm interested in tomorrow.

Lady Yeates in the last.

Zoomed to the top of my horses to follow list with a wildly impressive win at Redcar, when she was so unfit she had a bigger belly than me.

Somewhat surprised Moore is running her at a speed track like Chester as she looks like she will improve the further she goes.

Going to throw away tuppence happenny on her at 8/1, but she is definitely one to watch tomorrow and in coming weeks. I think she could improve a stone on her current mark.
Lady Yeats runs tonight in 6.30 Beverley 4-1 at present

Finally stepped up to 2m today.

Softish ground ideal.

Great each way race.

One drink in last chance saloon gogogogogogogogogo

Paddy are money back if 2nd/3rd up to 50 and they were best priced this morning.

4pm newcastle right?

GL US this was the one i picked out this morning so like that its got camels backing!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on October 14, 2014, 01:27:44 PM
gl holding at 16 runners in the next 3 hours given the ground!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 14, 2014, 04:31:10 PM
BOOM


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on October 14, 2014, 04:31:33 PM
Looks like Lady Yeats won that :-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 14, 2014, 04:33:57 PM
a ridiculously brave performance

well done keith top man


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on October 14, 2014, 04:35:00 PM
great work.  Obviously get the 16 runners and 4 places holding when you don't need them!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 14, 2014, 04:46:35 PM
One drink in last chance saloon gogogogogogogogogo
Loyalty rewarded. Too good . :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 14, 2014, 05:55:49 PM
There's another horse I'm interested in tomorrow.

Lady Yeates in the last.

Zoomed to the top of my horses to follow list with a wildly impressive win at Redcar, when she was so unfit she had a bigger belly than me.

Somewhat surprised Moore is running her at a speed track like Chester as she looks like she will improve the further she goes.

Going to throw away tuppence happenny on her at 8/1, but she is definitely one to watch tomorrow and in coming weeks. I think she could improve a stone on her current mark.
Lady Yeats runs tonight in 6.30 Beverley 4-1 at present

Finally stepped up to 2m today.

Softish ground ideal.

Great each way race.

One drink in last chance saloon gogogogogogogogogo

wp, very likeable one to follow, not often you see that price for a horse called yeats over 2m


Bit cheeky from mccoy in last at huntington, looks a decent one for hurdling with that cruising speed (el namoose)




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 14, 2014, 07:02:32 PM
Had a little bit on at 9/1, but wanted to make sure all 16 started before having my proper bet. Unfortunately the price went.

Still thought 11/2 was ok (was trading 6.6-6.8 on the machine for the win), so had £200 each way in a Baldfred shop in Chinatown.

Walked away from the counter to find a seat to watch the race.

A minute later the woman behind the counter shouts out "Oi love, come over here a second"

"Give us your slip from that bet you did a minute ago"

I passed it over.

She cancelled it and re-priced it at 6/1 and put it through again.

In 30+ years of going to a betting shop that has never happened to me before.

Baldie might have to go and have a lay down if he knew this was happening in one of his shops.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on October 14, 2014, 07:05:19 PM
I'd have been worried passing the slip back over, 'traders just called, cancel bet' would have been first thought


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 14, 2014, 10:59:42 PM
FFS missed this!

Well done Keith, and all who got on.

To round the day off nicely, I had Rockawango in my tracker as well...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on October 15, 2014, 04:54:04 AM
Well done Camel, thanks very much.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 15, 2014, 03:45:27 PM
Cheveton today, or is he finally gone at the game?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on October 15, 2014, 03:50:58 PM
One for today, Anglo Irish, 410pm at Lingfield. Only 4/1, but proven on the track and distance. Up slighlty in the weights, but its last 2 wins have thrown up numerous winners that finished behind it. Expect this to win today is the word from the stable even though its gone up a grade. Wont be 4/1 on the off, already been good money for it this morning. Didnt get a chance to post earlier when i got the message due to work meetings. 4pts win is the recomended bet!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 16, 2014, 09:34:27 AM
2.10 Brighton Birdie Queen  10/1  I've been on the lookout for Hector crouch's rides at Brighton where he seems to do very well with a 7lb claim, though maybe just a blip based on a small sample.  (possible theory: association with Moore family getting good pointers on how to ride there ??)  I've been more or less backing his rides here blind where they appear to have any sort of a chance - Birdie Queen is a course and distance winner with a piece of soft ground form, though unproven on heavy ground. At this price I'm happy to have a small e/w bet and hope there's not too many more non-runners.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 16, 2014, 10:37:32 AM
gd lk simon

Fujin is back out again in the last at Brighton, after backing it on debut for Harris last time at 16/1 i am quite happy to let it win at around 3/1 today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 16, 2014, 11:26:11 AM
Racing Post ‏@RacingPost  40m40 minutes ago
Regrettably Totesport and Racing Post will not run Ten To Follow for the 2014-15 jumps season. The decision follows a fall in entry levels.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on October 16, 2014, 11:30:24 AM
gd lk simon

Fujin is back out again in the last at Brighton, after backing it on debut for Harris last time at 16/1 i am quite happy to let it win at around 3/1 today
2.10 Brighton Birdie Queen  10/1  I've been on the lookout for Hector crouch's rides at Brighton where he seems to do very well with a 7lb claim, though maybe just a blip based on a small sample.  (possible theory: association with Moore family getting good pointers on how to ride there ??)  I've been more or less backing his rides here blind where they appear to have any sort of a chance - Birdie Queen is a course and distance winner with a piece of soft ground form, though unproven on heavy ground. At this price I'm happy to have a small e/w bet and hope there's not too many more non-runners.

cheers guys...a little on both and an e/w double is on  :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 16, 2014, 02:41:39 PM
Yet another superb ride on his own by Carson

A jockey with a brain and his own mind


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 16, 2014, 06:19:45 PM
Fujin ran well there

Taken the 7/1 for the sprint tommorow night at wolver wont be that price if it runs imo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on October 16, 2014, 06:26:46 PM
Fujin ran well there

Taken the 7/1 for the sprint tommorow night at wolver wont be that price if it runs imo

....and the winner must have been 100/1" in running" after the first furlong!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 16, 2014, 06:27:59 PM
Matched for 300/1 for a bit and 700/1 for.pennies..


Can see why!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on October 16, 2014, 06:46:09 PM
Just in case ppl dont read both this and TFT

paddy power MBS if 2nd or 3rd in 7:30 at wolves

There is a big favorite but paddy are pretty short on him at the minute 11/8 best priced 13/8.

I would wait for closer to the off where the prices level out a bit and back for the full £50 not often do they do this on races with such a short priced fav.

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/wolverhampton/19:30/winner

Dutch Art Dealer.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on October 16, 2014, 07:55:46 PM
come on dutch art


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on October 16, 2014, 08:00:17 PM
tyty

nice time to be lurking around paddy power after i just posted up an 'enhanced' on tft and then get on dutch art :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 16, 2014, 08:08:13 PM
ex go and get some of the fujin price with them

far to big imo

well done


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on October 16, 2014, 08:09:46 PM
9s, you said 7s?
each way?

see pm


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 17, 2014, 10:21:15 AM
fujin a nonner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 17, 2014, 01:26:47 PM
Yet another superb ride on his own by Carson

A jockey with a brain and his own mind

He is really unfortunate to have such an awful book of rides. I often see him giving excellent rides to no hopers but the horses are too bad to take advantage of it. He seems to ride lingfield really well and hope he gets a few more shots on horses he can help. He has a nice ride in the first at newmarket (dunno if he has any other rides)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 17, 2014, 01:28:47 PM
Agreed

This is worth a read for any nhunt fans

http://www.attheraces.com/jumps/profiles.aspx?hlid=548626&lid=stable+tours


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on October 17, 2014, 02:02:13 PM
Paddy power messenger app, are enhancing one fancied runner in each live race from new market.
first one is 13:50 majestic manner at 6/1, beats betfair and I'd expect it to continue.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 17, 2014, 02:30:31 PM
Anyone got a decent stream for Racing UK please?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 17, 2014, 03:00:37 PM
http://kingstreams.tv/racing-uk-live-stream.php (http://kingstreams.tv/racing-uk-live-stream.php)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 17, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
http://kingstreams.tv/racing-uk-live-stream.php (http://kingstreams.tv/racing-uk-live-stream.php)
No, down, just the cloudflare. My apologies.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 17, 2014, 03:14:47 PM
Good. Pay your 22 quid a month, like everyone else, you tight *******!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 17, 2014, 03:31:19 PM
Good. Pay your 22 quid a month, like everyone else, you tight *******!!!

Welcome back Adz you rotten sod.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 17, 2014, 03:35:11 PM
Good. Pay your 22 quid a month, like everyone else, you tight *******!!!

Welcome back Adz you rotten sod.

 ;nanana;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 17, 2014, 05:01:13 PM
like clon brulee in 5-10 at newmarket 11/1 ew 1/4, only defeat in last 3 was giving 2 stone to two improvers (3rd) where he came like a train then didnt finish off (think jockey got a bit excited early and pushed the button) I felt and is suited by 9f and has soft form on this course.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 17, 2014, 05:22:42 PM
like clon brulee in 5-10 at newmarket 11/1 ew 1/4, only defeat in last 3 was giving 2 stone to two improvers (3rd) where he came like a train then didnt finish off (think jockey got a bit excited early and pushed the button) I felt and is suited by 9f and has soft form on this course.
Drawn 13 and it looks like there's a better strip up the rails. GL though.:) Clon Brulee?
"It's a shit business".
(http://www.lunacynet.com/league/images/s2_les.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 17, 2014, 07:45:07 PM
Anyone got a strong view on the draw on the straight track at Ascot tomorrow?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 17, 2014, 08:06:31 PM
Anyone got a strong view on the draw on the straight track at Ascot tomorrow?

Information is worse then useless Ive viewed

eg stats suggested very high draw at 6f in soft is very poor while its a slight advantage at 7f/8f.


Lot of stuff Ive read has ppl saying they want a high one in the last over the straight mile. Using matched horses on form, low seems better.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 17, 2014, 08:23:04 PM
Anyone got a strong view on the draw on the straight track at Ascot tomorrow?


Based on the quick flash they showed of last year in soft too, in the Sprint they finished by stands rail. Spread of numbers in the draw. In other races it was a fair spread of positions too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 17, 2014, 09:32:11 PM
No strong view of the draw

By the last it is going to be very very hard work

Have chucked some sheckles on a few tomorrow

GABRIALS KAKA, probably annoyed a few this season but i havent backed it previously. Soft/heavy ground and a mile around here are the ideal conditions for this animal. Spencer in his last ride on the course he has always outperformed at for a swansong at 20's (win only chunky bet) also saved on LEVITATE same heat almost certainly been targeted at this conditions fine

ETON FOREVER in the impossible looking sprint, stays a lot further and this will be almost like a mile heat presuming pace on. win bet again at 14's

gd lk all


already on kingsbarns as per tft at 20's


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 17, 2014, 09:41:09 PM
Custom Cut is my big bet of tomorrow, dont think any horse deserves it more but like your kingsbarn bet and would couple it with toormore as time and time again the last couple of months great 2yo prospects have found themselves (berkshire did it in the last today, kiyoshi a while ago)


Sheikzayedroad is overpriced for the place in the champion stakes.

Last race is a belter, c4 actually have it on; first decent thing theyve done since their terrestrial monopoly


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 18, 2014, 09:34:26 AM
Last bet for me today Kashstaree in the 4.50 at Catterick

Very very very slow, but the bog today is the only time shown form to win this lovely low handicap mark and David Barron in good form. 7/1 is just big enough



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 18, 2014, 12:29:40 PM
Jeez. Tanya gets on my nerves.

Its Cirrus Des Aigles, woman, not Sirus D'Aigle. 4 people have just said it correctly before you and you still say it wrong.......grrrr


Anyway. Obviously losing the plot completely, because I can see Ayrad outrunning his 100-1 pricetag in the same race.

Varian doesn't tend to see his geese as swans and the very fact this 5 time raced youngster is in here suggests he thinks there may be a lot more to come. The form isn't in the book and I am requiring about a stone of improvement to get in the mix.

Im hoping as a Saddlers Wells, the ground will eek out a bit of the neccessary, as will his being relatively fresh, and still seemingly improving with each race..

Over at Chelts, I think Johns Spirit will be fit enough to run well in the second and Act Alone(sorry, was bigger last nite) in the 2.5m hurdle, and finally Bula Belle worth a look in the last at Catterick


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 18, 2014, 01:30:37 PM
OMG Adz gone native and socking it to the dumb Rosbifs!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 18, 2014, 02:12:47 PM
I was having a close look at John's Spirit too Adz but he's got a stone and a half more to carry this time so I decided against punting on him, probably sloosh up now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 18, 2014, 02:21:35 PM
I was having a close look at John's Spirit too Adz but he's got a stone and a half more to carry this time so I decided against punting on him, probably sloosh up now.


Jonjo was v bullish, close season about the improvement Ralph. To reach top flight, you have to go up. Best fresh. If I'm going to back him this year, it probably has to be now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 18, 2014, 02:54:15 PM
What a great horse!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 18, 2014, 03:08:30 PM
Thanks for talking me into that Adz  ;woohoo;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 18, 2014, 03:10:25 PM
Thanks for talking me into that Adz  ;woohoo;


My pleasure mate. OiOi!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 18, 2014, 03:16:32 PM
Thanks for talking me into that Adz  ;woohoo;


My pleasure mate. OiOi!!

Well done eye-liner boy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 18, 2014, 03:17:19 PM
Thanks for talking me into that Adz  ;woohoo;


My pleasure mate. OiOi!!

Well done eye-liner boy.


Don't. I'm welling up, and it ain't waterproof.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 18, 2014, 03:23:47 PM
Thanks for talking me into that Adz  ;woohoo;


My pleasure mate. OiOi!!

Well done eye-liner boy.


Don't. I'm welling up, and it ain't waterproof.

Be able to go BA next time....

Good shout mate, and dinner is on me if the other 2 go in ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on October 18, 2014, 03:57:35 PM
great stuff Adz, vwp sir.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on October 18, 2014, 03:59:16 PM
Compete gamble on Toormore e/w here.  Lost its way completely.  Just have a feeling and price huge.   One last chance.   Draw isn't do bad.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on October 18, 2014, 04:03:29 PM
Compete gamble on Toormore e/w here.  Lost its way completely.  Just have a feeling and price huge.   One last chance.   Draw isn't do bad.

well done mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on October 18, 2014, 04:06:30 PM
Compete gamble on Toormore e/w here.  Lost its way completely.  Just have a feeling and price huge.   One last chance.   Draw isn't do bad.

well done mate

Didn't have the best run there either.  Good day do far thanks to Neil, Simon and a bit of good fortune (thought the first started at 1.55 so had only backed one of Neil's before the off).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 18, 2014, 04:12:17 PM
fallon gave toormore a shocker, should have won.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 18, 2014, 04:12:24 PM
Compete gamble on Toormore e/w here.  Lost its way completely.  Just have a feeling and price huge.   One last chance.   Draw isn't do bad.

well done mate

Didn't have the best run there either.  Good day do far thanks to Neil, Simon and a bit of good fortune (thought the first started at 1.55 so had only backed one of Neil's before the off).

Great stuff, you'll be able to give up work again soon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 18, 2014, 04:18:50 PM
Compete gamble on Toormore e/w here.  Lost its way completely.  Just have a feeling and price huge.   One last chance.   Draw isn't do bad.

well done mate

Didn't have the best run there either.  Good day do far thanks to Neil, Simon and a bit of good fortune (thought the first started at 1.55 so had only backed one of Neil's before the off).


OMG Monsieur

You come to the Racing Thread and say you don't follow my stuff.

Please leave!!! ;melissa;

 ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on October 18, 2014, 04:22:12 PM
Compete gamble on Toormore e/w here.  Lost its way completely.  Just have a feeling and price huge.   One last chance.   Draw isn't do bad.

well done mate

Didn't have the best run there either.  Good day do far thanks to Neil, Simon and a bit of good fortune (thought the first started at 1.55 so had only backed one of Neil's before the off).


OMG Monsieur

You come to the Racing Thread and say you don't follow my stuff.

Please leave!!! ;melissa;

 ;)

Haha, got 2 kids with me so was struggling to keep up earlier hence only backing one in the first race.  Been very lucky with the ones I backed, can't claim any logic to it. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on October 18, 2014, 04:37:31 PM
what a race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 18, 2014, 04:37:59 PM
what a race.

Magic, wasnt it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 18, 2014, 04:38:41 PM
as brave as you like


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 18, 2014, 04:40:45 PM
Incred scenes!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on October 18, 2014, 04:45:32 PM

Can confirm I cheered him home regardless ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 18, 2014, 05:00:01 PM
Nice one Barry ;grr;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on October 18, 2014, 06:01:09 PM
great work again Adz, top class.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 18, 2014, 06:02:19 PM

Over at Chelts, I think Johns Spirit will be fit enough to run well in the second and Act Alone(sorry, was bigger last nite) in the 2.5m hurdle, and finally Bula Belle worth a look in the last at Catterick


Cheers bobby


I do try hard for you boys. 2/3 and the other trades at 1.5 when steps on last.

Maybe even Doobs got the last 9-1 winner?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on October 18, 2014, 06:03:59 PM

Over at Chelts, I think Johns Spirit will be fit enough to run well in the second and Act Alone(sorry, was bigger last nite) in the 2.5m hurdle, and finally Bula Belle worth a look in the last at Catterick


Cheers bobby


I do try hard for you boys. 2/3 and the other trades at 1.5 when steps on last.

Maybe even Doobs got the last 9-1 winner?

Was just cursing when I saw bobby's post.  Should have going back and read your post obv.  Great tipping anyway.  Good day all round. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 18, 2014, 06:08:13 PM

Over at Chelts, I think Johns Spirit will be fit enough to run well in the second and Act Alone(sorry, was bigger last nite) in the 2.5m hurdle, and finally Bula Belle worth a look in the last at Catterick


Cheers bobby


I do try hard for you boys. 2/3 and the other trades at 1.5 when steps on last.

Maybe even Doobs got the last 9-1 winner?

Geraghty has a habit of fucking me out of large chunks when I do multiples...

Good stuff mate, well done!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 19, 2014, 11:55:45 AM
Biggest bet for a while beat your side by a length and a half and end up 7th!

Thats big handicaps for you

well done adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 19, 2014, 08:25:29 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/americas/woodbine/21:37/winner

An old fav runs here in Caspar incase anyone missed it?

i think the 6/1 on offer with the uk books is backable but the tote price could be even bigger, conditions fine trainer in great form and this is a lovely class drop



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 19, 2014, 09:22:53 PM
Taken the 6/1 with hills

Considering Simcock had a group double at Woodbine a month ago i doubt the locals have forgotten him!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 19, 2014, 10:30:14 PM
Yes Casper!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on October 19, 2014, 10:33:14 PM
Top stuff Horsey, i was trying to get on it when the market got suspended and just missed out.  I thought i was too late as it was but i guess  it was delayed?  Top tipping though!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 19, 2014, 10:39:58 PM
oioi cheers horsey, european form in shoe in over there on turf at woodbine. Simcock has milked them with horses lower group class taking very tidy pots they couldnt hope to get over here. The prize trade storm won there was ridiculous, surprised more havent twigged.


Taking wall of sound in the other turf race, form has worked at very nice of its last running (that mud bath they ran in last week is irrelevant) and has an unlucky look to its form a bit like tradestorm before it came up trumps here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 19, 2014, 10:40:30 PM
yes still well behind time due to Brown Panther earlier

love the pace they go never looked likely but credit to Mullen he kept his head massive win for him


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on October 19, 2014, 10:56:02 PM
yes still well behind time due to Brown Panther earlier

love the pace they go never looked likely but credit to Mullen he kept his head massive win for him

Great news just before bed. Well done mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 19, 2014, 11:11:57 PM
Missed it myself, but great shout, horsey.

Well done everyone who got on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 20, 2014, 08:20:20 AM
Missed it myself, but great shout, horsey.

Well done everyone who got on.

Not on either, but nice to see horsey hit a bit of form.

Wp all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 20, 2014, 08:29:47 AM
Cheers lads

Still frustrated by Saturday could so easily had three winners but alas not...

Hoping the 3.10 at Pontecarlo remains a 16 runner heat



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 20, 2014, 09:51:06 AM
I was quite interested by Best Trip in this, ground should suit, well drawn, testing 5f should be ok.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 20, 2014, 10:01:39 AM
great minds...

or something like that anyway!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 20, 2014, 10:24:39 AM
That's a relief, at least I don't have to back half the field! I also had a smaller bet on Cheworee. (though both bets were pretty modest amounts)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 20, 2014, 11:37:52 AM
1.01 landed tumblewind a non runner

no bet for me but gd lk simon


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on October 20, 2014, 05:39:06 PM
Any thoughts on 5/2 for Faugeen to win any race at Cheltenham?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 20, 2014, 05:44:38 PM
Any thoughts on 5/2 for Faugeen to win any race at Cheltenham?

My first antepost bet for Chelts

Vautour      - Arkle
Faugheen   - Champ Hurdle
Briar Hill     - World Hurdle


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on October 20, 2014, 06:15:23 PM
Any thoughts on 5/2 for Faugeen to win any race at Cheltenham?

My first antepost bet for Chelts

Vautour      - Arkle
Faugheen   - Champ Hurdle
Briar Hill     - World Hurdle

I like them, looks more likely he goes for Champ Hurdle? Looks like the price will be far too skinny when they do NRNB is the 7/2 worth it?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 20, 2014, 09:16:13 PM
Any thoughts on 5/2 for Faugeen to win any race at Cheltenham?

My first antepost bet for Chelts

Vautour      - Arkle
Faugheen   - Champ Hurdle
Briar Hill     - World Hurdle

I like them, looks more likely he goes for Champ Hurdle? Looks like the price will be far too skinny when they do NRNB is the 7/2 worth it?

Well, Vautour and UDS are going chasing, so I just took a punt that he will go CH.

Far more qualified personnel here than me, but I didn't mind flicking a freebie on @ almost 400/1 :)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 21, 2014, 08:58:44 AM
1.01 landed tumblewind a non runner

no bet for me but gd lk simon

Morning all.

Was sadly indisposed yesterday so missed this at the time, but genuinely interested in the thinking behind this horsey.

Why does one horse pull out and suddenly its no bet. I could understand your the strategy was like Neils with the numbers being required as you back 3 or 4, but you have pinpointed one horse( I presume you were looking at Best Trip too).

The odds barely moved and it remained a 4 place race on Betty, after the initial WD.

Im pretty sure that one horse being taken out didnt decrease your horses chances(not being results biased btw)

From posts made across blonde betting area, I suspect you enjoy a punt as much as the next guy on here, yet the potential margins on this bet changed so little at the level we bet, I don't understand how it so easily becomes no bet to a "puntererer".

If I fancied one enough to suggest to Blonde(ie I must fancy it pretty strongly to do so) I dont see how it so easily becomes a no bet?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 21, 2014, 09:43:42 AM
Simon said he was quite interested in Best Trip.

So was i, i never said i had backed it. On reflection i was not as keen as i thought earlier in the day to suggest a bet upon doing the race in more detail. The non runner was the icing on the cake for me. (Fwiw a very senior/highly respected blonde member who i help out betting wise agreed and made it one of his only two bets on the day) This led to me having a minimum win bet on the animal near the off.

You may think i am a "punterer" but i don't actually have that many bets (small nfl ones to keep me awake during night shifts talking £5/£10 max don't really count)



I have put things up on here that have won and i haven't backed and vice versa its not a betting log for me just a sounding board of opinions.

Spending a hell of a lot of time on the Breeders at the moment, hopefully will be a few winners ala Casper to come from that.








Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 21, 2014, 09:48:03 AM
One from the timeform tracker today

SAVE THE BEES http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/wolverhampton/16:50/winner

Done me proud last two starts at big prices trying to make all in very strongly run races (did very well to hang onto 3rd at Catterick last time only one of pace to last)

He can lead up any field in this grade but fav apart there is not much pace on here at all. Will lead from stall 1 and hopefully AA decides he has to drop the fav in from stall 11. If he does i think Save the Bees can fight them all of late on at 10/1 win bet.

gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 21, 2014, 10:14:05 AM

You may think i am a "punterer" but i don't actually have that many bets (small nfl ones to keep me awake during night shifts talking £5/£10 max don't really count)




Haha

You're a better man than me then mate.

Not sure I could spend the sort of time on a race to warrant suggesting a bet and then not back it for such a small change in the circs.

But I am happy to admit I am a punterer(backed too many other duds on here to deny it)......a decent one, but one nonetheless.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 21, 2014, 10:27:17 AM
Simon said he was quite interested in Best Trip.

So was i, i never said i had backed it. On reflection i was not as keen as i thought earlier in the day to suggest a bet upon doing the race in more detail. The non runner was the icing on the cake for me. (Fwiw a very senior/highly respected blonde member who i help out betting wise agreed and made it one of his only two bets on the day) This led to me having a minimum win bet on the animal near the off.

You may think i am a "punterer" but i don't actually have that many bets (small nfl ones to keep me awake during night shifts talking £5/£10 max don't really count)



I have put things up on here that have won and i haven't backed and vice versa its not a betting log for me just a sounding board of opinions.

Spending a hell of a lot of time on the Breeders at the moment, hopefully will be a few winners ala Casper to come from that.








John,

FWIW, there will be a "Breeders Cup Betting Preview" Show on Ch 861 next Tuesday, with the Usual Suspects in the Studio.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 21, 2014, 10:31:32 AM
Is the spider in attendance?

:)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 21, 2014, 10:39:50 AM
Is the spider in attendance?

:)

Mr Channing never goes anywhere without his spider, & copious quantities of alcohol.

That's the whole secret of Betting Emporium, you know - the drunken spider.

(http://calvinayre.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/growth-of-the-betting-emporium-with-neil-channing.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 21, 2014, 10:55:21 AM

From Plumpton yesterday.


(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/457538474-gemma-pallett-riding-galloping-goring-win-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QZV%2FQh9YRNUSfzJ2jW0q8UI7yVARIyO1lFcwkcc%2BOVcbPRqHMdgkI0ziLmW27GNY7w%3D%3D)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 21, 2014, 10:59:51 AM

From Plumpton yesterday.


(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/457538474-gemma-pallett-riding-galloping-goring-win-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QZV%2FQh9YRNUSfzJ2jW0q8UI7yVARIyO1lFcwkcc%2BOVcbPRqHMdgkI0ziLmW27GNY7w%3D%3D)

great pic

The two out the back waiting for handicaps?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 21, 2014, 11:02:05 AM

From Plumpton yesterday.


(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/457538474-gemma-pallett-riding-galloping-goring-win-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QZV%2FQh9YRNUSfzJ2jW0q8UI7yVARIyO1lFcwkcc%2BOVcbPRqHMdgkI0ziLmW27GNY7w%3D%3D)


Bloody kids

No wonder the ground rode like a ploughed field!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 21, 2014, 11:07:30 AM
I thought it was a wonderful photo.

It's the Shetland Pony Gold Cup, no less.  

Here's the jockey line-up.


(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/457538724-jockeys-riding-in-the-shetland-pony-gold-cup-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QRu86cdWckyoempyJzXXNklwEn%2fdqmper4KqKxQZ5N%2bV0Pgo32RFxZsHLrLHTJ2ynA%3d%3d)


(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/457538470-jockeys-in-the-parade-ring-for-the-shetland-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QQEbSBFQdSgD4mXyXGy3B8P91i0kTIj8rgNK7lzVJOoX5E5b4QEoqgPzwvzKSiOWLA%3d%3d)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 21, 2014, 11:12:47 AM
Simon said he was quite interested in Best Trip.

So was i, i never said i had backed it. On reflection i was not as keen as i thought earlier in the day to suggest a bet upon doing the race in more detail. The non runner was the icing on the cake for me. (Fwiw a very senior/highly respected blonde member who i help out betting wise agreed and made it one of his only two bets on the day) This led to me having a minimum win bet on the animal near the off.

You may think i am a "punterer" but i don't actually have that many bets (small nfl ones to keep me awake during night shifts talking £5/£10 max don't really count)



I have put things up on here that have won and i haven't backed and vice versa its not a betting log for me just a sounding board of opinions.

Spending a hell of a lot of time on the Breeders at the moment, hopefully will be a few winners ala Casper to come from that.


Wish the non-runner had put me off. The icing on the cake was that I thought I should have a saver on one Hugh Taylor put up for the race - the trio finished 12th 13th and 15th of 15 runners....  lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 21, 2014, 02:07:33 PM
https://www.timeform.com/Racing/Articles/Rowleyfile_Investigates_The_Industry_Starting_Price,_part_two

brilliant read


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 21, 2014, 02:10:41 PM
Simon said he was quite interested in Best Trip.

So was i, i never said i had backed it. On reflection i was not as keen as i thought earlier in the day to suggest a bet upon doing the race in more detail. The non runner was the icing on the cake for me. (Fwiw a very senior/highly respected blonde member who i help out betting wise agreed and made it one of his only two bets on the day) This led to me having a minimum win bet on the animal near the off.

You may think i am a "punterer" but i don't actually have that many bets (small nfl ones to keep me awake during night shifts talking £5/£10 max don't really count)



I have put things up on here that have won and i haven't backed and vice versa its not a betting log for me just a sounding board of opinions.

Spending a hell of a lot of time on the Breeders at the moment, hopefully will be a few winners ala Casper to come from that.


Wish the non-runner had put me off. The icing on the cake was that I thought I should have a saver on one Hugh Taylor put up for the race - the trio finished 12th 13th and 15th of 15 runners....  lol


Dont let that put you off mate.

Need more of your selections


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Eso Kral on October 21, 2014, 03:48:03 PM
I thought it was a wonderful photo.

It's the Shetland Pony Gold Cup, no less.  

Here's the jockey line-up.


(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/457538724-jockeys-riding-in-the-shetland-pony-gold-cup-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QRu86cdWckyoempyJzXXNklwEn%2fdqmper4KqKxQZ5N%2bV0Pgo32RFxZsHLrLHTJ2ynA%3d%3d)


(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/457538470-jockeys-in-the-parade-ring-for-the-shetland-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QQEbSBFQdSgD4mXyXGy3B8P91i0kTIj8rgNK7lzVJOoX5E5b4QEoqgPzwvzKSiOWLA%3d%3d)
Which one is Pleno?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 21, 2014, 04:42:19 PM
lol @ go west young man at exeter


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 21, 2014, 04:43:46 PM
lol @ go west young man at exeter


Its low sun, time of year(sure someone will use it anyway). They been all over the track at Wolves too today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 21, 2014, 04:47:47 PM
utter rogue isnt it?

Almost went behind them somehow

Strange day Biscuit has ridden a winner and the grand old boy Methaaly makes all at wolver from box 13

funny game


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 21, 2014, 04:48:26 PM
lol @ go west young man at exeter


Its low sun, time of year(sure someone will use it anyway). They been all over the track at Wolves too today.

thought it was just living up to its name lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on October 21, 2014, 05:28:27 PM
utter rogue isnt it?

Almost went behind them somehow

Strange day Biscuit has ridden a winner and the grand old boy Methaaly makes all at wolver from box 13

funny game

I done really well backing Adam when he was a claimer but since he lost his claim he's not he's been pretty terrible.  Reminds me somewhat of a skinnier version of Lee Newman who I also done alright following. 

Some really difficult races today I have been punterring inbetween attending a physio appointment.  I'm up about 30% on the day but could have been so much more had i had enough conviction. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 21, 2014, 06:00:52 PM
utter rogue isnt it?

Almost went behind them somehow

Strange day Biscuit has ridden a winner and the grand old boy Methaaly makes all at wolver from box 13

funny game

Was just saying to Adz, I had that in my tracker, but didn't get my ATR mail last night.

I only saw it was running when watching replays of the day on the SL website.

Still, at least it wasn't a big price...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 21, 2014, 06:34:31 PM
Backed it many times myself

even at 22's couldnt have backed it from that draw with Anna on and in running would have been even bigger despite leading

tbf she did well to not hit it very calm


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on October 21, 2014, 06:49:50 PM
I had POUR LA VICTOIRE in the last at Wolves thought I was finishing the day off with a winner but pretty disappointed by WTD's ride, all the other winners today seemed to come down the outside today and being on the inside seemed to be at a disadvantage yet he came right up the rail and got collared on the lines by the finishers.   Unfortnately for me I had 2nd of the two finishers as well so had 2nd and 3rd in the race.   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 21, 2014, 07:09:41 PM
I had POUR LA VICTOIRE in the last at Wolves thought I was finishing the day off with a winner but pretty disappointed by WTD's ride, all the other winners today seemed to come down the outside today and being on the inside seemed to be at a disadvantage yet he came right up the rail and got collared on the lines by the finishers.   Unfortnately for me I had 2nd of the two finishers as well so had 2nd and 3rd in the race.   

Me too, thought he went for home too early aswell.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 22, 2014, 12:24:58 AM
Yorkshire looks incredibly interesting in the second at Newmarket tomorrow.

Ran its best race in a maiden on soft at Newcastle.

The other two runs on faster ground were moderate but means he has landed on a mark of 63.

But the real thing of interest is the trainer switch since his last run from Kevin Ryan to Luca Cumani.

Wonder if a horse has ever made that move before?

Atzeni booked for tomorrow, got to be worth a shilling or two at 6/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 22, 2014, 01:11:24 PM
Good luck Keith

Last time i checked albeit a year ago or so Cumani was pretty much top of first for run from someone else profit wise.

Kevin Ryan also had/has good stats for horses who leave him


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 22, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
Cheers for this. As someone getting back into horse racing I really appreciate when people post their reasoning along with their tip. Helps me learn what I should be looking for.
I'll ask a noob question while I'm here: C0ral are 1/4 1,2,3 in what looks a very good ew race in the first at Fontwell. Is this worth playing/an account killer?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 22, 2014, 01:36:41 PM
lovely shape to have an each way bet

Wont be good for the account but if you bet anything like well corals wont last long anyway

good luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 22, 2014, 01:38:39 PM
£20 each way you'll be fine.

£200 each way, you'll probably lose your account.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 22, 2014, 01:45:09 PM
Cheers. (I'm closer to the former than the latter).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on October 22, 2014, 01:50:06 PM
I was toying with the idea of taking on the market principles in the first race at Newmarket but in the end I've decided they are probably the price they are for good reason.   The two I was going to take them on with were Perestroika and Thanaya both as e/w bets. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 22, 2014, 02:08:29 PM
The best racing podcast is back, a must listen

http://www.theirishfield.ie/podcast-the-final-furlongs-jumps-preview-167671


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 23, 2014, 01:06:28 AM
For those that can with Paddy Power, I thought it worth backing Ashcott Boy 3/1 and Sharadiyn 10/1 win only in the 4.10 Southwell with money back as a free bet 2nd and 3rd. Think the fav still decent value at 7/2 elsewhere.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 23, 2014, 03:16:33 AM
Would be interested to hear anyone's thoughts on the 8.40 Kempton tonight . Quite keen to oppose King Calypso, and think Ssafa at 14-1 is a huge price relative to him.

Have backed Ssafa small e/w @ 14/1 though it's 22 on Betfair at the moment and will look to top up in the morning if the price drifts out further. Also backed Daaree win only at 4-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 23, 2014, 11:14:47 AM
Would be interested to hear anyone's thoughts on the 8.40 Kempton tonight . Quite keen to oppose King Calypso, and think Ssafa at 14-1 is a huge price relative to him.

Have backed Ssafa small e/w @ 14/1 though it's 22 on Betfair at the moment and will look to top up in the morning if the price drifts out further. Also backed Daaree win only at 4-1

Every possibility that I've got this very wrong, but 33-1 with Hills about Ssafa seems very generous to me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 23, 2014, 02:18:52 PM
The best racing podcast is back, a must listen

http://www.theirishfield.ie/podcast-the-final-furlongs-jumps-preview-167671

Never listened to them before, thanks for posting.

I like the Sporting Life one, because I like Ben Linfoot, but the FF one had a bit more content to it :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 23, 2014, 02:33:53 PM
The best racing podcast is back, a must listen

http://www.theirishfield.ie/podcast-the-final-furlongs-jumps-preview-167671

Never listened to them before, thanks for posting.

I like the Sporting Life one, because I like Ben Linfoot, but the FF one had a bit more content to it :D

This one was slightly dull because it was just Mullins horses

Expect the next one to be better


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on October 23, 2014, 02:59:51 PM
Really fancy Langham Lilly today in the 1610 at Southwell One in the notebook for me, and back on the all weather after a spell over timber, and ran well, could have found a nice oppurtunity to get its ehad in front.8/1, solid each way bet for me and only one of the week so far.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on October 23, 2014, 04:47:56 PM
Really fancy Langham Lilly today in the 1610 at Southwell One in the notebook for me, and back on the all weather after a spell over timber, and ran well, could have found a nice oppurtunity to get its ehad in front.8/1, solid each way bet for me and only one of the week so far.

All weather?   That must have been where I went wrong.  :-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 23, 2014, 08:28:20 PM
An earlier cheltenham notebooker for me today

Urban Hymn even though beaten as fav jumped beautifully, looks a natural rsa/jewson a long way away but one ill be backing when prices/plans become clearer.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 24, 2014, 01:38:11 AM
An earlier cheltenham notebooker for me today

Urban Hymn even though beaten as fav jumped beautifully, looks a natural rsa/jewson a long way away but one ill be backing when prices/plans become clearer.



backed duke of navan, couldnt understand why urban hymn went off fav let alone the price it did considering their relative merits over hurdles- navan was a 2m horse, urban hymn a 3m hurdler. Agree it put in a nice round and thought it ran a great race to hold that close over two mile.

Would back urban hymn all races 2m 4f plus, looks a real trier aswell.

Tbh they way they battled on bth are worth following


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 24, 2014, 12:09:33 PM
skybet and ladbrokes are 5 places on the 3-30 at doncaster


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 24, 2014, 01:09:29 PM
I like Kellys Finest in the first at Donny.

Showed a massive improvement in its first time in a handicap and on softish ground at Catterick a fortnight ago.

Looks like it will appreciate the step up in trip too.

Is a bit weak on Betfair which is a bit of a concern, but I'll still throw a groat ew on it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 24, 2014, 02:15:46 PM
Pain.

20/1 shot gets withdrawn and I get screwed for the ew money.

Traded 1.5 in running, perhaps a mile was slightly beyond her.

Wouldn't have beaten the winner over any distance mind.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 24, 2014, 04:06:27 PM
Finally Jamaican Bolt gets there. been chasing that win for a while


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 24, 2014, 04:13:30 PM
Finally Jamaican Bolt gets there. been chasing that win for a while

Was gonna post the exactly the same thing lol. tbf to him he scoops places all the time and he never runs a bad race, never a nontrier (hes only  been beaten by more then 6 lengths one in 24 runnings), his style of running on late is just frustrating to follow.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 24, 2014, 09:37:03 PM
Corals have Luke Morris at 7/2 to be allweather champ. Hes a class act on AW tracks but would ride a shetland pony if someone paid him so his strike rate is terrible. The thing is he rode 150 more times then his rival kirby last time and only 3 jockeys will ride enough to be competitive (morris, kirby, fanning- riding less then 400 would probably be unfeasable, fanning wont ride enough either imo). He can also ride off way lower then kirby.

Kirby is a worthy favourite just think its much closer to a match then morris a 7/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 25, 2014, 11:35:01 AM
Like elusivity in the 3.15 at doncaster @ 20/1 5places 1/4 with bet365. Been punished last year with grim mark and ran creditably, this year its marks steadily coming down and now looks on a mark to run a big race.

Hope 8 stay in the racing post trophy, because I think cock of the north is far too long on what its done. 33/1 1/4 with some


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 25, 2014, 11:36:35 AM
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Rajdhani Express and the 7/1 on BF has tempted me to give him another chance today.

I know he's a bit hit and miss but has looked pretty decent to me occasionally and my gut feeling is that there could be more to come.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 25, 2014, 11:39:49 AM
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Rajdhani Express and the 7/1 on BF has tempted me to give him another chance today.

I know he's a bit hit and miss but has looked pretty decent to me occasionally and my gut feeling is that there could be more to come.

Backed it at cheltenham, thought waley cohen gave it a shocker. Wish he would just give up and let geraghty ride them


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on October 25, 2014, 11:41:28 AM
Like elusivity in the 3.15 at doncaster @ 20/1 5places 1/4 with bet365. Been punished last year with grim mark and ran creditably, this year its marks steadily coming down and now looks on a mark to run a big race.

Hope 8 stay in the racing post trophy, because I think cock of the north is far too long on what its done

Backed Elusivity this morning at 22/1.  Best draw, good weight, ground fine.  jockey a worry and it doesn't win much.

5 places makes up for all that though.  


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 25, 2014, 11:43:40 AM
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Rajdhani Express and the 7/1 on BF has tempted me to give him another chance today.

I know he's a bit hit and miss but has looked pretty decent to me occasionally and my gut feeling is that there could be more to come.

Backed it at cheltenham, thought waley cohen gave it a shocker. Wish he would just give up and let geraghty ride them

He's obviously no Geraghty but I don't think he's as terrible as some make out.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on October 25, 2014, 12:51:16 PM
last direct debit to spirit of shankly today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on October 25, 2014, 01:13:14 PM
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Rajdhani Express and the 7/1 on BF has tempted me to give him another chance today.

I know he's a bit hit and miss but has looked pretty decent to me occasionally and my gut feeling is that there could be more to come.

Backed it at cheltenham, thought waley cohen gave it a shocker. Wish he would just give up and let geraghty ride them

He's obviously no Geraghty but I don't think he's as terrible as some make out.

He definitely had a ban for corruption. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 25, 2014, 01:49:23 PM
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Rajdhani Express and the 7/1 on BF has tempted me to give him another chance today.

I know he's a bit hit and miss but has looked pretty decent to me occasionally and my gut feeling is that there could be more to come.

Backed it at cheltenham, thought waley cohen gave it a shocker. Wish he would just give up and let geraghty ride them

He's obviously no Geraghty but I don't think he's as terrible as some make out.

He definitely had a ban for corruption. 

Very sinister wasn't it Doobs?

Forgot to go out for the final circuit and then lied to cover his embarrassment.

Proper villain, should have been banned for life.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 25, 2014, 02:04:42 PM
Like elusivity in the 3.15 at doncaster @ 20/1 5places 1/4 with bet365. Been punished last year with grim mark and ran creditably, this year its marks steadily coming down and now looks on a mark to run a big race.

Hope 8 stay in the racing post trophy, because I think cock of the north is far too long on what its done

Backed Elusivity this morning at 22/1.  Best draw, good weight, ground fine.  jockey a worry and it doesn't win much.

5 places makes up for all that though

Tough draw if anything. They always go down the middle at Donny now on slow ground.  


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on October 25, 2014, 02:17:39 PM
Come on Aloft!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on October 25, 2014, 02:24:27 PM
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for Rajdhani Express and the 7/1 on BF has tempted me to give him another chance today.

I know he's a bit hit and miss but has looked pretty decent to me occasionally and my gut feeling is that there could be more to come.

Backed it at cheltenham, thought waley cohen gave it a shocker. Wish he would just give up and let geraghty ride them

He's obviously no Geraghty but I don't think he's as terrible as some make out.

He definitely had a ban for corruption. 

Very sinister wasn't it Doobs?

Forgot to go out for the final circuit and then lied to cover his embarrassment.

Proper villain, should have been banned for life.

Haha, I am getting old, I thought you were talking about Jimmy Quinn.  Completely different thread.  Need to pay more attention.   Think Waley Cohen is fine FWIW.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 25, 2014, 02:44:02 PM
Richard Johnson looks about as well balanced as I am, when approaching a hurdle :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on October 25, 2014, 03:05:08 PM
finally


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 25, 2014, 03:05:32 PM
last direct debit to spirit of shankly today

oioi


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on October 25, 2014, 03:08:24 PM
Good work trigg


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 25, 2014, 03:16:53 PM
Nice one, Trigg!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 25, 2014, 03:21:24 PM
Nice one, Trigg!

 :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: swinebag22 on October 25, 2014, 03:25:24 PM

tyty


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 25, 2014, 03:29:53 PM
sam waley-useless


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on October 25, 2014, 04:20:06 PM
meh aloft 2nd woteva


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on October 25, 2014, 08:50:22 PM
What was the last race on c4 today?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on October 25, 2014, 08:54:04 PM
tree fiddy donny


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on October 25, 2014, 08:56:58 PM
tree fiddy donny

Cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 26, 2014, 10:50:46 AM
Rolling Maul 12/1 e/w is a punt for me. Looks like it will appreciate the increase in distance after doing its best work late on in its previous run.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on October 26, 2014, 11:05:34 AM
PP money back in 3:15 at aintree no good at the minute i dont think as there prices are poor but maybe later on will be of interest 8 horse race with a 3/1 fav and money back if 2nd or 3rd sounds good to me!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 26, 2014, 05:51:39 PM
Rolling Maul 12/1 e/w is a punt for me. Looks like it will appreciate the increase in distance after doing its best work late on in its previous run.

out of its depth, and forgot rebecca curtis horses dont lose atm even when they stop dead after a hurdle


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 28, 2014, 10:07:19 AM
Some useful Breeders Cup Stats for you.

Friday

1. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Turf

Only one of the 21 horses in the first three in the betting on the US tote has won this race so far.

However, the biggest priced winner was just 12.5/1. The average price in last 7 renewals 15/2

2. Breeders’ Cup Dirt Mile

Six of the seven Dirt Mile winners were aged three or four. This year, just five of the twelve pre-entries are in that age bracket. The only five year old to win paid $77.40 (about 37/1).

3. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf

Five of the six Juvenile Fillies Turf winners had won over a mile or more already.

The one exception, French-trained Flotilla, had been beaten less than two lengths in the Group 1 Prix Marcel Boussac on her prior start, and paid over 11/1 on the US tote.

4. Breeders’ Cup Distaff

Last fifteen Distaff winners were aged three or four. That accounts for just half of the twelve pre-entries. 25 of the 30 Distaff winners since the start of the Breeders’ Cup were aged three or four.

Saturday

5. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies

25 of the 30 Juvenile Fillies winners had already won at Graded level.

This year, just four of 15 have.

6. Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Turf

Seven of the last eight FM Turf winners were aged three or four.

This year, no less than ten of pre-entries are five and up, with two six year olds attempting to do what none that age has achieved before.

7. Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Sprint

Four of the seven Filly and Mare Sprint winners had tasted Grade 1 glory that season. Of the other three, one was Groupie Doll last year, who was the reigning FM Sprint queen; and the other two had both been second in G1 company that season, and were double figure prices.

8. Breeders’ Cup Turf Sprint

Four renewals held on this, and all four have been won by a horse with at least two wins over course and distance.

This year, just three of the eligible pre-entries qualify

9. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile

Not a strong trends race at all

10. Breeders’ Cup Turf

All 31 winners of the Turf (taking in both dead heaters in 2003) were aged three to five. That is against five of the sixteen pre-entries

11. Breeders’ Cup Sprint

15 of the last 21 Sprint winners had already scored at least twice in the season at the distance.

12. Breeders’ Cup Mile

Often considered to be one of the best chances of the Euro horses, 14 of the last 16 were won by either a US horse, or Goldikova (3 wins).Both the other two Euro wins were by French-trained horses.


Hope they are of use.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 28, 2014, 10:54:50 AM
Thanks for taking the trouble to post, guess I better listen to Neil et al on Sky tonight and see if in conjunction with stats we can't find a winner or two.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on October 28, 2014, 11:04:07 AM
Thanks for that, Adz. Helps my spider out.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 28, 2014, 11:14:39 AM
These are the tabs I have open on my browser when I look at the day's racing:

Oddschecker                              Self explanatory
SportingLife                               Looking at form and race videos
AtTheRaces  Predictor page        Think it's worth looking at the selection particularly if it's at a decent price and trying to understand why it has been selected.
AtTheRaces  Speed Ratings         Don't understand these enough, but take them to strengthen a selection if they appear favourable
Flatstats                                    Useful for examining draw biases and overview of sire characteristics
Drawbias                                   Quick overview of course characteristics and biases
Betfair                                       Looking at price trends and prices in the place market

Does anyone use any other resources they would recommend that I'm missing out on?






Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on October 28, 2014, 02:07:47 PM
Some useful Breeders Cup Stats for you.

Friday

1. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Turf

Only one of the 21 horses in the first three in the betting on the US tote has won this race so far.

However, the biggest priced winner was just 12.5/1. The average price in last 7 renewals 15/2

2. Breeders’ Cup Dirt Mile

Six of the seven Dirt Mile winners were aged three or four. This year, just five of the twelve pre-entries are in that age bracket. The only five year old to win paid $77.40 (about 37/1).

3. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf

Five of the six Juvenile Fillies Turf winners had won over a mile or more already.

The one exception, French-trained Flotilla, had been beaten less than two lengths in the Group 1 Prix Marcel Boussac on her prior start, and paid over 11/1 on the US tote.

4. Breeders’ Cup Distaff

Last fifteen Distaff winners were aged three or four. That accounts for just half of the twelve pre-entries. 25 of the 30 Distaff winners since the start of the Breeders’ Cup were aged three or four.

Saturday

5. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies

25 of the 30 Juvenile Fillies winners had already won at Graded level.

This year, just four of 15 have.

6. Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Turf

Seven of the last eight FM Turf winners were aged three or four.

This year, no less than ten of pre-entries are five and up, with two six year olds attempting to do what none that age has achieved before.

7. Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Sprint

Four of the seven Filly and Mare Sprint winners had tasted Grade 1 glory that season. Of the other three, one was Groupie Doll last year, who was the reigning FM Sprint queen; and the other two had both been second in G1 company that season, and were double figure prices.

8. Breeders’ Cup Turf Sprint

Four renewals held on this, and all four have been won by a horse with at least two wins over course and distance.

This year, just three of the eligible pre-entries qualify

9. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile

Not a strong trends race at all

10. Breeders’ Cup Turf

All 31 winners of the Turf (taking in both dead heaters in 2003) were aged three to five. That is against five of the sixteen pre-entries

11. Breeders’ Cup Sprint

15 of the last 21 Sprint winners had already scored at least twice in the season at the distance.

12. Breeders’ Cup Mile

Often considered to be one of the best chances of the Euro horses, 14 of the last 16 were won by either a US horse, or Goldikova (3 wins).Both the other two Euro wins were by French-trained horses.


Hope they are of use.


Thanks for posting these Adz.

Where do I send the subs bud?



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on October 28, 2014, 02:52:48 PM
These are the tabs I have open on my browser when I look at the day's racing:

Oddschecker                              Self explanatory
SportingLife                               Looking at form and race videos
AtTheRaces  Predictor page        Think it's worth looking at the selection particularly if it's at a decent price and trying to understand why it has been selected.
AtTheRaces  Speed Ratings         Don't understand these enough, but take them to strengthen a selection if they appear favourable
Flatstats                                    Useful for examining draw biases and overview of sire characteristics
Drawbias                                   Quick overview of course characteristics and biases
Betfair                                       Looking at price trends and prices in the place market

Does anyone use any other resources they would recommend that I'm missing out on?






I'm sure there must be some value in this

http://www.formgrids.com/

but I haven't quite got round to having a really good look at it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 28, 2014, 02:57:11 PM
Some useful Breeders Cup Stats for you.

Friday

1. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Turf

Only one of the 21 horses in the first three in the betting on the US tote has won this race so far.

However, the biggest priced winner was just 12.5/1. The average price in last 7 renewals 15/2

2. Breeders’ Cup Dirt Mile

Six of the seven Dirt Mile winners were aged three or four. This year, just five of the twelve pre-entries are in that age bracket. The only five year old to win paid $77.40 (about 37/1).

3. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf

Five of the six Juvenile Fillies Turf winners had won over a mile or more already.

The one exception, French-trained Flotilla, had been beaten less than two lengths in the Group 1 Prix Marcel Boussac on her prior start, and paid over 11/1 on the US tote.

4. Breeders’ Cup Distaff

Last fifteen Distaff winners were aged three or four. That accounts for just half of the twelve pre-entries. 25 of the 30 Distaff winners since the start of the Breeders’ Cup were aged three or four.

Saturday

5. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies

25 of the 30 Juvenile Fillies winners had already won at Graded level.

This year, just four of 15 have.

6. Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Turf

Seven of the last eight FM Turf winners were aged three or four.

This year, no less than ten of pre-entries are five and up, with two six year olds attempting to do what none that age has achieved before.

7. Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Sprint

Four of the seven Filly and Mare Sprint winners had tasted Grade 1 glory that season. Of the other three, one was Groupie Doll last year, who was the reigning FM Sprint queen; and the other two had both been second in G1 company that season, and were double figure prices.

8. Breeders’ Cup Turf Sprint

Four renewals held on this, and all four have been won by a horse with at least two wins over course and distance.

This year, just three of the eligible pre-entries qualify

9. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile

Not a strong trends race at all

10. Breeders’ Cup Turf

All 31 winners of the Turf (taking in both dead heaters in 2003) were aged three to five. That is against five of the sixteen pre-entries

11. Breeders’ Cup Sprint

15 of the last 21 Sprint winners had already scored at least twice in the season at the distance.

12. Breeders’ Cup Mile

Often considered to be one of the best chances of the Euro horses, 14 of the last 16 were won by either a US horse, or Goldikova (3 wins).Both the other two Euro wins were by French-trained horses.


Hope they are of use.


Thanks for posting these Adz.

Where do I send the subs bud?




Send the cheque to Humbel Ben@pppp.com ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on October 28, 2014, 03:34:58 PM
lol, abs too good bud.

I've a feeling you are going to be having it right off on the NH again this year Adz.

Would you rather be at a flat meeting in the warm or a NH meeting in freezing December?

How many horses have you owned/had a share in?

How many horses do you have in your tracker/notebook at any one time?

What is your best racing memory as a kid?

What is your best racing memory as an adult?

You have a good eye for a horse, does going to sales and looking at many lots improve your judgement on the punting side too?

Whats the most you have ever bid for a horse? (even if it wasn't your cash being spent)

Do you mainly bet or lay horses or a bit of both?

How much do you regret choosing Arsenal instead of Spurs?

Do you have a hurdler and a chaser you are looking forward to seeing this season(either for punting or just coz you love the horse)

If you owned Clever Cookie would you be aiming it at the Champion Hurdle as that looks to be a race that could cut up this year and would you be sick if you were on at 66/1 for the CH and they seem to have decided it's too good to go hurdling with this year? ;o(

Your fav horse of all time?

How many races do you watch a week either live or on tape?

I really like reading this and the greyhound thread as they just feel full of knowledge and enjoyment so good to put some meat on the bones of the posters.

tx

 









Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 28, 2014, 04:32:28 PM
Prescott drifter. :O


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 28, 2014, 05:54:14 PM
Some useful Breeders Cup Stats for you.

Friday

1. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Turf

Only one of the 21 horses in the first three in the betting on the US tote has won this race so far.

However, the biggest priced winner was just 12.5/1. The average price in last 7 renewals 15/2

2. Breeders’ Cup Dirt Mile

Six of the seven Dirt Mile winners were aged three or four. This year, just five of the twelve pre-entries are in that age bracket. The only five year old to win paid $77.40 (about 37/1).

3. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf

Five of the six Juvenile Fillies Turf winners had won over a mile or more already.

The one exception, French-trained Flotilla, had been beaten less than two lengths in the Group 1 Prix Marcel Boussac on her prior start, and paid over 11/1 on the US tote.

4. Breeders’ Cup Distaff

Last fifteen Distaff winners were aged three or four. That accounts for just half of the twelve pre-entries. 25 of the 30 Distaff winners since the start of the Breeders’ Cup were aged three or four.

Saturday

5. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile Fillies

25 of the 30 Juvenile Fillies winners had already won at Graded level.

This year, just four of 15 have.

6. Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Turf

Seven of the last eight FM Turf winners were aged three or four.

This year, no less than ten of pre-entries are five and up, with two six year olds attempting to do what none that age has achieved before.

7. Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Sprint

Four of the seven Filly and Mare Sprint winners had tasted Grade 1 glory that season. Of the other three, one was Groupie Doll last year, who was the reigning FM Sprint queen; and the other two had both been second in G1 company that season, and were double figure prices.

8. Breeders’ Cup Turf Sprint

Four renewals held on this, and all four have been won by a horse with at least two wins over course and distance.

This year, just three of the eligible pre-entries qualify

9. Breeders’ Cup Juvenile

Not a strong trends race at all

10. Breeders’ Cup Turf

All 31 winners of the Turf (taking in both dead heaters in 2003) were aged three to five. That is against five of the sixteen pre-entries

11. Breeders’ Cup Sprint

15 of the last 21 Sprint winners had already scored at least twice in the season at the distance.

12. Breeders’ Cup Mile

Often considered to be one of the best chances of the Euro horses, 14 of the last 16 were won by either a US horse, or Goldikova (3 wins).Both the other two Euro wins were by French-trained horses.


Hope they are of use.


Cheers. Usually leave the doped up dirt fests but decent info to have an interest.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 28, 2014, 08:15:18 PM
lol, abs too good bud.

I've a feeling you are going to be having it right off on the NH again this year Adz.

Would you rather be at a flat meeting in the warm or a NH meeting in freezing December? At home, working betfair. Will probably go max five time NH season this year.

How many horses have you owned/had a share in? None. Mrs C reads this. When one of your best mates family owns around 100 horses, and you get to go where and when you like, seems daft to spend your own. Would love Guesty to move south though, then I would.

How many horses do you have in your tracker/notebook at any one time? Use three trackers, all nearly maxed. Tend to try and use two for flat and one for jumps, as names on flat are more diff to remember(arabic names/juveniles etc)

What is your best racing memory as a kid? Putting £500 on Rowlandsons Jewels in a four horse race at Hereford at 11/10. Every penny I had bar scrapnel. What a sweat, won by half a length. Was stones better, I thought.lol

What is your best racing memory as an adult? Watching Creon get laid out for the Pertemps, and lumping on at all manner of prices(100s on betty/66s Tote) with Brooky. We were the only two cheering in the members area going abso potty, didn't have enough pockets and had to get a taxi back home and then go back to Chelts to celebrate. Only matched when Rog got his first Cheltenham winner himself when Cheltanian won the Bumper

You have a good eye for a horse, does going to sales and looking at many lots improve your judgement on the punting side too? No. Not a clue. Just the fat ones are avoided!

Whats the most you have ever bid for a horse? (even if it wasn't your cash being spent)I forget now, but do remember getting starred down by Hendo in one sale. Always keep one eye out to make sure Rog hasn't wandered off. Dont want that ticket for £180,000 with my name on for too long.

Do you mainly bet or lay horses or a bit of both?99% bettor.

How much do you regret choosing Arsenal instead of Spurs? As if. Love the pain and the arguements though.

Do you have a hurdler and a chaser you are looking forward to seeing this season(either for punting or just coz you love the horse) Interested to see West Wizard this year, was so hyped last year, but they are still bigging him up. Many Clouds. Still think he could go a long way. Plenty of lesser known horses, but we need to keep them quiet....

If you owned Clever Cookie would you be aiming it at the Champion Hurdle as that looks to be a race that could cut up this year and would you be sick if you were on at 66/1 for the CH and they seem to have decided it's too good to go hurdling with this year? ;o(.....Lets keep our fingers crossed for a change of heart mate.

Your fav horse of all time? Red Maruader

How many races do you watch a week either live or on tape? Every UK race, even if I have to save them up to do it.

I really like reading this and the greyhound thread as they just feel full of knowledge and enjoyment so good to put some meat on the bones of the posters.

tx

 










Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on October 28, 2014, 10:58:43 PM
lol, abs too good bud.

I've a feeling you are going to be having it right off on the NH again this year Adz.

Would you rather be at a flat meeting in the warm or a NH meeting in freezing December? At home, working betfair. Will probably go max five time NH season this year.

How many horses have you owned/had a share in? None. Mrs C reads this. When one of your best mates family owns around 100 horses, and you get to go where and when you like, seems daft to spend your own. Would love Guesty to move south though, then I would.

How many horses do you have in your tracker/notebook at any one time? Use three trackers, all nearly maxed. Tend to try and use two for flat and one for jumps, as names on flat are more diff to remember(arabic names/juveniles etc)

What is your best racing memory as a kid? Putting £500 on Rowlandsons Jewels in a four horse race at Hereford at 11/10. Every penny I had bar scrapnel. What a sweat, won by half a length. Was stones better, I thought.lol

What is your best racing memory as an adult? Watching Creon get laid out for the Pertemps, and lumping on at all manner of prices(100s on betty/66s Tote) with Brooky. We were the only two cheering in the members area going abso potty, didn't have enough pockets and had to get a taxi back home and then go back to Chelts to celebrate. Only matched when Rog got his first Cheltenham winner himself when Cheltanian won the Bumper

You have a good eye for a horse, does going to sales and looking at many lots improve your judgement on the punting side too? No. Not a clue. Just the fat ones are avoided!

Whats the most you have ever bid for a horse? (even if it wasn't your cash being spent)I forget now, but do remember getting starred down by Hendo in one sale. Always keep one eye out to make sure Rog hasn't wandered off. Dont want that ticket for £180,000 with my name on for too long.

Do you mainly bet or lay horses or a bit of both?99% bettor.

How much do you regret choosing Arsenal instead of Spurs? As if. Love the pain and the arguements though.

Do you have a hurdler and a chaser you are looking forward to seeing this season(either for punting or just coz you love the horse) Interested to see West Wizard this year, was so hyped last year, but they are still bigging him up. Many Clouds. Still think he could go a long way. Plenty of lesser known horses, but we need to keep them quiet....

If you owned Clever Cookie would you be aiming it at the Champion Hurdle as that looks to be a race that could cut up this year and would you be sick if you were on at 66/1 for the CH and they seem to have decided it's too good to go hurdling with this year? ;o(.....Lets keep our fingers crossed for a change of heart mate.

Your fav horse of all time? Red Maruader

How many races do you watch a week either live or on tape? Every UK race, even if I have to save them up to do it.

I really like reading this and the greyhound thread as they just feel full of knowledge and enjoyment so good to put some meat on the bones of the posters.

tx

 









cheers mate...ah Red Marauder, now that was a National to remember. Which trackers do you use?

You sure about the Arsenal answer? ;o)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on October 29, 2014, 04:52:20 AM
off down the road to a really mundane nottinham meeting but quite looking forward to the maiden. Done a fair bit of studying but the 1m6f race at 4.00 im really struggling with. Anyone with any view on this would be appreciated. Fwiw think it must be faith (2.00pm) and card high (4.30pm) are good e/w bets.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: T_Mar on October 29, 2014, 06:28:29 AM
lol, abs too good bud.

I've a feeling you are going to be having it right off on the NH again this year Adz.

Would you rather be at a flat meeting in the warm or a NH meeting in freezing December? At home, working betfair. Will probably go max five time NH season this year.

How many horses have you owned/had a share in? None. Mrs C reads this. When one of your best mates family owns around 100 horses, and you get to go where and when you like, seems daft to spend your own. Would love Guesty to move south though, then I would.

How many horses do you have in your tracker/notebook at any one time? Use three trackers, all nearly maxed. Tend to try and use two for flat and one for jumps, as names on flat are more diff to remember(arabic names/juveniles etc)

What is your best racing memory as a kid? Putting £500 on Rowlandsons Jewels in a four horse race at Hereford at 11/10. Every penny I had bar scrapnel. What a sweat, won by half a length. Was stones better, I thought.lol

What is your best racing memory as an adult? Watching Creon get laid out for the Pertemps, and lumping on at all manner of prices(100s on betty/66s Tote) with Brooky. We were the only two cheering in the members area going abso potty, didn't have enough pockets and had to get a taxi back home and then go back to Chelts to celebrate. Only matched when Rog got his first Cheltenham winner himself when Cheltanian won the Bumper

You have a good eye for a horse, does going to sales and looking at many lots improve your judgement on the punting side too? No. Not a clue. Just the fat ones are avoided!

Whats the most you have ever bid for a horse? (even if it wasn't your cash being spent)I forget now, but do remember getting starred down by Hendo in one sale. Always keep one eye out to make sure Rog hasn't wandered off. Dont want that ticket for £180,000 with my name on for too long.

Do you mainly bet or lay horses or a bit of both?99% bettor.

How much do you regret choosing Arsenal instead of Spurs? As if. Love the pain and the arguements though.

Do you have a hurdler and a chaser you are looking forward to seeing this season(either for punting or just coz you love the horse) Interested to see West Wizard this year, was so hyped last year, but they are still bigging him up. Many Clouds. Still think he could go a long way. Plenty of lesser known horses, but we need to keep them quiet....

If you owned Clever Cookie would you be aiming it at the Champion Hurdle as that looks to be a race that could cut up this year and would you be sick if you were on at 66/1 for the CH and they seem to have decided it's too good to go hurdling with this year? ;o(.....Lets keep our fingers crossed for a change of heart mate.

Your fav horse of all time? Red Maruader

How many races do you watch a week either live or on tape? Every UK race, even if I have to save them up to do it.

I really like reading this and the greyhound thread as they just feel full of knowledge and enjoyment so good to put some meat on the bones of the posters.

tx

 










Adz... I was at Cheltenham the year Creon won, we had seats below the Panoramic restaurant which has a little private bar for people with seats.. we stayed behind after racing that day and there were 3 guys, with literally a carrier bag full of cash (~90k apparently) sat on the table popping corks... They said they were from same home town as the trainer and had backed it on the tote at silly prices...... I wonder if that was you? :) 

I remember the race well for that reason alone, although unfortunately whatever I backed is prob still running now :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: T_Mar on October 29, 2014, 06:35:18 AM
lol, abs too good bud.

I've a feeling you are going to be having it right off on the NH again this year Adz.

Would you rather be at a flat meeting in the warm or a NH meeting in freezing December? At home, working betfair. Will probably go max five time NH season this year.

How many horses have you owned/had a share in? None. Mrs C reads this. When one of your best mates family owns around 100 horses, and you get to go where and when you like, seems daft to spend your own. Would love Guesty to move south though, then I would.

How many horses do you have in your tracker/notebook at any one time? Use three trackers, all nearly maxed. Tend to try and use two for flat and one for jumps, as names on flat are more diff to remember(arabic names/juveniles etc)

What is your best racing memory as a kid? Putting £500 on Rowlandsons Jewels in a four horse race at Hereford at 11/10. Every penny I had bar scrapnel. What a sweat, won by half a length. Was stones better, I thought.lol

What is your best racing memory as an adult? Watching Creon get laid out for the Pertemps, and lumping on at all manner of prices(100s on betty/66s Tote) with Brooky. We were the only two cheering in the members area going abso potty, didn't have enough pockets and had to get a taxi back home and then go back to Chelts to celebrate. Only matched when Rog got his first Cheltenham winner himself when Cheltanian won the Bumper

You have a good eye for a horse, does going to sales and looking at many lots improve your judgement on the punting side too? No. Not a clue. Just the fat ones are avoided!

Whats the most you have ever bid for a horse? (even if it wasn't your cash being spent)I forget now, but do remember getting starred down by Hendo in one sale. Always keep one eye out to make sure Rog hasn't wandered off. Dont want that ticket for £180,000 with my name on for too long.

Do you mainly bet or lay horses or a bit of both?99% bettor.

How much do you regret choosing Arsenal instead of Spurs? As if. Love the pain and the arguements though.

Do you have a hurdler and a chaser you are looking forward to seeing this season(either for punting or just coz you love the horse) Interested to see West Wizard this year, was so hyped last year, but they are still bigging him up. Many Clouds. Still think he could go a long way. Plenty of lesser known horses, but we need to keep them quiet....

If you owned Clever Cookie would you be aiming it at the Champion Hurdle as that looks to be a race that could cut up this year and would you be sick if you were on at 66/1 for the CH and they seem to have decided it's too good to go hurdling with this year? ;o(.....Lets keep our fingers crossed for a change of heart mate.

Your fav horse of all time? Red Maruader

How many races do you watch a week either live or on tape? Every UK race, even if I have to save them up to do it.

I really like reading this and the greyhound thread as they just feel full of knowledge and enjoyment so good to put some meat on the bones of the posters.

tx

 









cheers mate...ah Red Marauder, now that was a National to remember. Which trackers do you use?

You sure about the Arsenal answer? ;o)

4 finishers!!! I was there in the pissing rain, GF at the time backed the winner at 40's or something while I did my conkers.... Dont you just hate it when that happens :)

Lots of reminiscing going on this morning itt


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 29, 2014, 07:14:12 AM
off down the road to a really mundane nottinham meeting but quite looking forward to the maiden. Done a fair bit of studying but the 1m6f race at 4.00 im really struggling with. Anyone with any view on this would be appreciated. Fwiw think it must be faith (2.00pm) and card high (4.30pm) are good e/w bets.

cheers

Have took meetings man and moshe, both e/w. Did a fair bit on the race and think the real standout factor is the unreasonable 9lb pull that 3yo's are getting. Think baldings is a worthy fav but not interested at the price.

Meetings man is a bit of a plodder but tough and genuine, think 12/1  e/w is decent as it won last time out (on the flat) off a lb lower

Moshe is an utter monkey should have won 3 of its last 4 runs (last run it was turned out too quickly) but think itll like the step up in distance, and its mark is very handy including the 9lb WFA


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 29, 2014, 01:41:53 PM
lol, abs too good bud.

I've a feeling you are going to be having it right off on the NH again this year Adz.

Would you rather be at a flat meeting in the warm or a NH meeting in freezing December? At home, working betfair. Will probably go max five time NH season this year.

How many horses have you owned/had a share in? None. Mrs C reads this. When one of your best mates family owns around 100 horses, and you get to go where and when you like, seems daft to spend your own. Would love Guesty to move south though, then I would.

How many horses do you have in your tracker/notebook at any one time? Use three trackers, all nearly maxed. Tend to try and use two for flat and one for jumps, as names on flat are more diff to remember(arabic names/juveniles etc)

What is your best racing memory as a kid? Putting £500 on Rowlandsons Jewels in a four horse race at Hereford at 11/10. Every penny I had bar scrapnel. What a sweat, won by half a length. Was stones better, I thought.lol

What is your best racing memory as an adult? Watching Creon get laid out for the Pertemps, and lumping on at all manner of prices(100s on betty/66s Tote) with Brooky. We were the only two cheering in the members area going abso potty, didn't have enough pockets and had to get a taxi back home and then go back to Chelts to celebrate. Only matched when Rog got his first Cheltenham winner himself when Cheltanian won the Bumper

You have a good eye for a horse, does going to sales and looking at many lots improve your judgement on the punting side too? No. Not a clue. Just the fat ones are avoided!

Whats the most you have ever bid for a horse? (even if it wasn't your cash being spent)I forget now, but do remember getting starred down by Hendo in one sale. Always keep one eye out to make sure Rog hasn't wandered off. Dont want that ticket for £180,000 with my name on for too long.

Do you mainly bet or lay horses or a bit of both?99% bettor.

How much do you regret choosing Arsenal instead of Spurs? As if. Love the pain and the arguements though.

Do you have a hurdler and a chaser you are looking forward to seeing this season(either for punting or just coz you love the horse) Interested to see West Wizard this year, was so hyped last year, but they are still bigging him up. Many Clouds. Still think he could go a long way. Plenty of lesser known horses, but we need to keep them quiet....

If you owned Clever Cookie would you be aiming it at the Champion Hurdle as that looks to be a race that could cut up this year and would you be sick if you were on at 66/1 for the CH and they seem to have decided it's too good to go hurdling with this year? ;o(.....Lets keep our fingers crossed for a change of heart mate.

Your fav horse of all time? Red Maruader

How many races do you watch a week either live or on tape? Every UK race, even if I have to save them up to do it.

I really like reading this and the greyhound thread as they just feel full of knowledge and enjoyment so good to put some meat on the bones of the posters.

tx

 










Adz... I was at Cheltenham the year Creon won, we had seats below the Panoramic restaurant which has a little private bar for people with seats.. we stayed behind after racing that day and there were 3 guys, with literally a carrier bag full of cash (~90k apparently) sat on the table popping corks... They said they were from same home town as the trainer and had backed it on the tote at silly prices...... I wonder if that was you? :) 

I remember the race well for that reason alone, although unfortunately whatever I backed is prob still running now :)


Nearly but sadly 30k shy of that 'tween us. We had pockets stuffed, and spent more of the next couple of hours worrying we would get mugged, while we chuckled away with the rest of the group who spent the rest of the afternoon saying"I knew I should have followed you"etc. Probably the last time Timmy rode a winner for me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 29, 2014, 02:30:17 PM
off down the road to a really mundane nottinham meeting but quite looking forward to the maiden. Done a fair bit of studying but the 1m6f race at 4.00 im really struggling with. Anyone with any view on this would be appreciated. Fwiw think it must be faith (2.00pm) and card high (4.30pm) are good e/w bets.



Knows his onions, the boy Trigg

WP sir!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 29, 2014, 05:00:47 PM
off down the road to a really mundane nottinham meeting but quite looking forward to the maiden. Done a fair bit of studying but the 1m6f race at 4.00 im really struggling with. Anyone with any view on this would be appreciated. Fwiw think it must be faith (2.00pm) and card high (4.30pm) are good e/w bets.



Knows his onions, the boy Trigg

WP sir!


BOOOOOOM!!!!

 ;tightend; ;hattip; ;tightend; ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 29, 2014, 05:01:08 PM
e/w bets or both going to win

too good, wp and ty.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: swinebag22 on October 29, 2014, 05:03:42 PM
Nice work Trigg

Good run from Moshe too


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on October 29, 2014, 05:30:46 PM

Top stuff Mr Trigg!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rubbish2407 on October 29, 2014, 05:34:54 PM
Was on the second one, great call.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 29, 2014, 05:35:55 PM
What was that other hobby you were looking for, Trigg?

Missed both, marv :D

Well played mate, and congrats to the puntersssssss!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on October 29, 2014, 06:25:20 PM
didnt end up going today my my dad went to hospital this morning so had to stay put, had good bets tho and thanks to mystery pm'r :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 29, 2014, 06:30:52 PM
Oh no, not the 'I've had PMs' ;)

Hope your old boy is alright mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on October 29, 2014, 06:45:06 PM
Well done Trigg, great result, only just checked now so even nicer surprise.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 30, 2014, 09:03:45 AM
A little surprised to see Bertie Blu Boy available at 14-1 for the 4.20 Lingfield. Seems a little overpriced considering his record here, I've had a small e/w bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 30, 2014, 09:26:01 AM
12.50 Ling , backed Fine View 7-1 e/w due to good e/w shape to race, sire seems decent on all weather and trainer's good strike rate first time out


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 30, 2014, 01:53:45 PM
vasco d'ycy was 16s earlier, gonna go off at 5s or less


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 30, 2014, 01:58:31 PM
12.50 Ling , backed Fine View 7-1 e/w due to good e/w shape to race, sire seems decent on all weather and trainer's good strike rate first time out

backed and layed this one, easy money. Your other ones trading 10s and less aswell now, nice call


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on October 30, 2014, 03:33:26 PM
Maybe a really stupid question but I was looking through racing post app today and saw Ruby Walsh had a couple rides or whatever, his ride was 8/1, mullins horse, he won.

How often does he win on these long odds horses, he has so few rides doesn't he? What if he was backed blind?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 30, 2014, 04:24:00 PM
jenny powell must give a cracking blowjob, can be the only way she gets rides


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 30, 2014, 04:32:38 PM
The missus is going to Chester tomorrow night for work - her company is entertaining some clients. Do any of the brains here have any tips she can try and impress them with, as my knowledge is sadly lacking, and hers is a lot worse than mine!!


If she is going tomorrow night then she has missed it!

Jenny Powell is on the consistently unlucky Athletic in the third. Her fem touch may help to coax it home.

Charlottes Lad should also follow up. GL

When she said Friday I auto assumed it was an evening fixture! Will pass these on, cheers.


Just got to know which days to back em Ice ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 30, 2014, 04:40:04 PM
The missus is going to Chester tomorrow night for work - her company is entertaining some clients. Do any of the brains here have any tips she can try and impress them with, as my knowledge is sadly lacking, and hers is a lot worse than mine!!


If she is going tomorrow night then she has missed it!

Jenny Powell is on the consistently unlucky Athletic in the third. Her fem touch may help to coax it home.

Charlottes Lad should also follow up. GL

When she said Friday I auto assumed it was an evening fixture! Will pass these on, cheers.


Just got to know which days to back em Ice ;)

one in the next us on my tracker aswell because she threw away thats chance last time out. If she doesnt get it tailed off and gets a clear run it was flyi ng last time out. If she gets stuck in behind she just sits there like she just did on athletic. You seen the price change on athletic, it didnt need to win lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 30, 2014, 04:45:55 PM
The missus is going to Chester tomorrow night for work - her company is entertaining some clients. Do any of the brains here have any tips she can try and impress them with, as my knowledge is sadly lacking, and hers is a lot worse than mine!!


If she is going tomorrow night then she has missed it!

Jenny Powell is on the consistently unlucky Athletic in the third. Her fem touch may help to coax it home.

Charlottes Lad should also follow up. GL

When she said Friday I auto assumed it was an evening fixture! Will pass these on, cheers.


Just got to know which days to back em Ice ;)

one in the next us on my tracker aswell because she threw away thats chance last time out. If she doesnt get it tailed off and gets a clear run it was flyi ng last time out. If she gets stuck in behind she just sits there like she just did on athletic. You seen the price change on athletic, it didnt need to win lol

I must admit i was a bit nervvy, as didnt have a been on her this time, as I fancied a bit of chaos. She was defo unlucky as I think she would have given Kelly the slip, had she found the gaps. Obv a horse with plenty to give still.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on October 30, 2014, 07:39:32 PM
The missus is going to Chester tomorrow night for work - her company is entertaining some clients. Do any of the brains here have any tips she can try and impress them with, as my knowledge is sadly lacking, and hers is a lot worse than mine!!


If she is going tomorrow night then she has missed it!

Jenny Powell is on the consistently unlucky Athletic in the third. Her fem touch may help to coax it home.

Charlottes Lad should also follow up. GL

When she said Friday I auto assumed it was an evening fixture! Will pass these on, cheers.


Just got to know which days to back em Ice ;)

one in the next us on my tracker aswell because she threw away thats chance last time out. If she doesnt get it tailed off and gets a clear run it was flyi ng last time out. If she gets stuck in behind she just sits there like she just did on athletic. You seen the price change on athletic, it didnt need to win lol

I must admit i was a bit nervvy, as didnt have a been on her this time, as I fancied a bit of chaos. She was defo unlucky as I think she would have given Kelly the slip, had she found the gaps. Obv a horse with plenty to give still.

The ride was unlucky but dont think shes got the guts especially on AW. She just dropped the early book fav out the back in a race at kempton, may aswell just pull it up. She seems to do whats she likes not whats best for the horse; because she isnt comfortable in the mix. Lass on the cadmium is better and shes plain. Powell is so overrated, shes the female hanagan. Morris is so good and so unlucky, the horses he rides dont deserve him. His agent is tez


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2014, 07:11:03 PM
Hoping for 3 decent runs tonite

Puca

Bobbys Kitten

One Lucky Dane.

Got some decent prices a while back. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on November 01, 2014, 07:32:05 PM
on danette and puca in this


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2014, 07:37:51 PM
Dreadful dreadful ride.

Think he watched the Arazi vid before he went out, ffs


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 01, 2014, 07:56:43 PM
nobody on take charge brandy. reckon that ones training was like the russians on the rocky film


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 01, 2014, 09:41:38 PM
Cheers Adz!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 01, 2014, 09:45:09 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

A few of us secured 20s on that bad boy.

I managed a small amount at 66s on the One Lucky D, but by time I had texted a couple of Marky/bobby it was 16s/20. Would have been a fine sweat if the first had been given a better ride.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on November 01, 2014, 09:49:25 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

A few of us secured 20s on that bad boy.

I managed a small amount at 66s on the One Lucky D, but by time I had texted a couple of Marky/bobby it was 16s/20. Would have been a fine sweat if the first had been given a better ride.



Here's me happy with the 7/1 i got just before the off!!  I'l follow in on the last at current best price with some of the profit anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 01, 2014, 09:52:50 PM
wd azy


coverage is great, american race view is so user friendly (pun intended), the sprints are great races and a bit fairer on horses coming off pace.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on November 01, 2014, 09:53:11 PM
Top Shooting turn a bad night around for me! Off to the casino with a smile on my face! and a few buyins!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 01, 2014, 10:30:06 PM
 ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on November 01, 2014, 11:25:47 PM
great stuff Adz, top class bud.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 02, 2014, 12:16:00 AM
stick to yarmouth hughesy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 02, 2014, 01:17:30 AM
bayern so brave, sick if they take it off it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on November 02, 2014, 01:23:56 AM
Will be amazing if Toast of New York gets this.

Coolmore should have been sending their future Breeders Cup horses to Wolverhampton obviously. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on November 02, 2014, 01:31:06 AM
Will be amazing if Toast of New York gets this.

Coolmore should have been sending their future Breeders Cup horses to Wolverhampton obviously. 

was hoping for amazing there myself too. Probably the least known top class horse in the country. Don't think the winner deserved to lose the race tho, just got beat by a really brave horse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 02, 2014, 11:43:36 AM
I am hoping that we see the next Gold Cup winner today up at Carlisle :D, but I must confess I was very very taken by Road to Riches performance at Down Royal.

Ok, it was early season fare, but he ran them stupid at the end, and the further he goes the better he looks, with his jumping getting better than ever at the end.

He also lost a few lengths at many fences when jumping left. Not a problem at Cheltenham.

By close of play we shall have seen most of the protaganists and I have invested a bit ew on R2R at 25s. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 02, 2014, 12:22:11 PM
Very interesting race at Carlisle Adz, might have to throw a Lady Godiva at one of them so that I can watch it.

Road to Riches was impressive yesterday but I did expect a few of those bigger guns to misfire. I had a small bet on Rocky Creek which ran respectably I thought, over a trip too short.

I'd need to see RtR again though as I can't help thinking about Roi Du Mee's similarly impressive-looking victory last year, the form of which amounted to naught in the end.

Not a bad weekend's racing all in all.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on November 02, 2014, 12:29:39 PM
What race is that? Can not find the horse for. A dabble!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 02, 2014, 12:37:32 PM
What race is that? Can not find the horse for. A dabble!

3.45pm Carlisle, the listed 'chase.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on November 02, 2014, 01:05:20 PM
Yeah come on hollywell


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 02, 2014, 01:12:27 PM
Very interesting race at Carlisle Adz, might have to throw a Lady Godiva at one of them so that I can watch it.

Road to Riches was impressive yesterday but I did expect a few of those bigger guns to misfire. I had a small bet on Rocky Creek which ran respectably I thought, over a trip too short.

I'd need to see RtR again though as I can't help thinking about Roi Du Mee's similarly impressive-looking victory last year, the form of which amounted to naught in the end.

Not a bad weekend's racing all in all.

 
Yep. Good point Ralph.

I think last years race fell apart somewhat. I dont think Sizing stays 3m and Mount Ben fell. First L just seems to rarely put it all together. Yesterday had a lot more depth and R2R clearly on the upgrade following his Galway Plate rout.

I just thought at 25-1, still plenty of room to build a portfolio......around the Clouds!

A bloke's gotta dream!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 02, 2014, 01:31:58 PM
Yeah come on hollywell

Boooooooooooooooooooooo!

;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on November 02, 2014, 04:08:05 PM
Clouds is shorter odds to place than holywell on exchange, don't know why so putting golywell to place at 2.02 on with smaller bet on it to win

Cue Eduardo and clouds 1-2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 02, 2014, 04:18:37 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!

The dream is alive!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on November 02, 2014, 04:18:50 PM
Donkey and now I see adz talking about clouds lol a few posts above


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 02, 2014, 04:19:29 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!

The dream is alive!

<3 that horse



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 02, 2014, 04:21:47 PM
How well did he fence eh?!

Excuse my over enthusiasm. Love him!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 02, 2014, 04:25:32 PM
How well did he fence eh?!

Excuse my over enthusiasm. Love him!

Jumped very well, lovely prospect.

I wouldn't write Holywell off yet as that was clearly a sharpener without headgear.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 02, 2014, 04:35:29 PM
How well did he fence eh?!

Excuse my over enthusiasm. Love him!

Jumped very well, lovely prospect.

I wouldn't write Holywell off yet as that was clearly a sharpener without headgear.

No way. Reason I was so confident today was that Hollywell will be geared towards Spring and Cheltenham, same as last year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on November 02, 2014, 05:19:24 PM
How well did he fence eh?!

Excuse my over enthusiasm. Love him!

I might as well just write a template so I can just cut n paste it instead of having to type it every day.

Great work again bud.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on November 02, 2014, 07:18:02 PM
Anyone I can ask for tips for Newcastle races on 14th pleaseee?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 03, 2014, 06:11:55 PM
Looking forward to tomorrow's Haldon GC.

I'm quite keen on Hinterland's chances at the weights and snaffled some early 9/2.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 04, 2014, 04:41:00 AM
Ryan Moore picking up another biggy, and what a run from Red Cadeaux, again!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: crown on November 04, 2014, 05:43:12 AM
Red Cadeaux was just awesome to see hit the the front just a real shame ryan had a fair handful to follow from behind... Red hitting the frame as a 10yr old?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: crown on November 04, 2014, 06:36:11 AM
Red Cadeaux was just awesome to see hit the the front just a real shame ryan had a fair handful to follow from behind... Red hitting the frame as a 10yr old?

after looking at rp site Red is only an 8 yr old so hopefully a good chance of hitting the cup board as a 9yr old


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 04, 2014, 06:53:29 AM
Backed three and all were placed in top five but as soon as that man Ryan loomed I knew it was place money only.

Surely the best jockey in the world by some way ATM.

Lovely to see the cadeaux run so well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on November 04, 2014, 12:23:12 PM
2.15 Exeter should be interesting, but not a race to go mad on. I've backed Hinterland 7/2 - seems well treated and good record fresh.  Bigger bet on God's Own 7/1 seems a decent price based on Punchestown form, love it when I read excuses being made for horses that day/form underrated?

Over to you Adz?  Please don't tell me you're all in on Cue Card?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 04, 2014, 12:30:24 PM
2.15 Exeter should be interesting, but not a race to go mad on. I've backed Hinterland 7/2 - seems well treated and good record fresh.  Bigger bet on God's Own 7/1 seems a decent price based on Punchestown form, love it when I read excuses being made for horses that day/form underrated?

Over to you Adz?  Please don't tell me you're all in on Cue Card?

Mystic Meg attempt here... or he has gone nuts and is thinking like me.

Loves Balder, with Wayneo on board, but has backed Pepite small for an interest.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 04, 2014, 12:54:26 PM
Oh Marky. I have become too predictable!!

Hinterland looks very strong here, but never been a fav of mine. Best fresh, but countered by Nicholls horses needing run. Looked a bit dodgy at times too, winning on the bit and looking awesome at times, but beaten miles at others.

Im told CC is very forward, but sure the interviews pre race will say he needs it etc.

Balder ticks all the trend boxes, but we heard from the great man yest and he was v keen on Ziga Boy, and no mention of Balder, so not sure. Love Wayneo, but Pepite is a fav of mine and we have a massive +ROI together. Looks ideal trip, jock, ground etc, and its November so Miss Williams is back knocking out winners. At 16s I am far happier than at circa  sub 4s for 3 others that could be backed. No result here would surprise me though.

FWIW I am keen on Green Light at Redcar, but just looked and price been smashed from last night. Just putting it out there though.

GL today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 04, 2014, 02:00:45 PM
Mattmu just won in france at 6/1 sp, tracker doesnt cover france....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Nico29 on November 04, 2014, 02:48:03 PM
2.15 Exeter should be interesting, but not a race to go mad on. I've backed Hinterland 7/2 - seems well treated and good record fresh.  Bigger bet on God's Own 7/1 seems a decent price based on Punchestown form, love it when I read excuses being made for horses that day/form underrated?

Over to you Adz?  Please don't tell me you're all in on Cue Card?

Oioioi. :)

Betfair sp was 12.5 too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 04, 2014, 02:48:09 PM
2.15 Exeter should be interesting, but not a race to go mad on. I've backed Hinterland 7/2 - seems well treated and good record fresh.  Bigger bet on God's Own 7/1 seems a decent price based on Punchestown form, love it when I read excuses being made for horses that day/form underrated?

Over to you Adz?  Please don't tell me you're all in on Cue Card?

n1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 04, 2014, 02:54:02 PM
Nice one SImon. Another great pick.


Well. I was miles off there. That said, all of them made some real howlers, and prob clear from my write up, no confident pick in the race

Gods Own was the one I was most happy to cross off, mainly because Paddy was on board. Attached to local yards(Fergal/Tom) and all the staff I know feel he has lost his bottle, and much of his riding in last 6 months has bourne that out. I suspect the punch of the air was a release of some of the frustrations he has felt.

One for the "wait and see" file, and a lot of those performances I would be happy to ignore. Onwards!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 04, 2014, 03:46:01 PM
Nice one Simon!

Good to see Cue Card back in the game :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 04, 2014, 06:06:15 PM
Good shout Simon.

I must admit to being one of those who had written off his Irish win last backend a little hastily as an "end of season result" rather than cast-iron form.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on November 05, 2014, 03:41:24 PM
Popped into a bookies yesterday to watch the Haldon Gold Cup.

Some bloke in there backed Balder Succes and was giving Wayneo all sorts of dogs abuse for the ride

"Why does King use this fucking idiot? The sooner Thornton comes back the better and Hutchinson can go back to riding at Ffos fucking Las where he deserves to be".

Wondered if you have a distant relative living in Darlington Adzy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 05, 2014, 03:46:16 PM
Horse got tired and put a lazy one in, jockey did fine to keep him together for second.


Tusker Rock in the 3-50 at chepstow caught my eye last time out, jumped nicely and rallied when joined.


It must be faith, tip on here a week ago just readily followed up at nottingham


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on November 05, 2014, 06:32:57 PM
Stakes and Ladders have a 7 to follow for the NH season

It is only a nicker to enter and they are guaranteeing a £1000 pool.

What's not to like?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 05, 2014, 07:04:43 PM
Popped into a bookies yesterday to watch the Haldon Gold Cup.

Some bloke in there backed Balder Succes and was giving Wayneo all sorts of dogs abuse for the ride

"Why does King use this fucking idiot? The sooner Thornton comes back the better and Hutchinson can go back to riding at Ffos fucking Las where he deserves to be".

Wondered if you have a distant relative living in Darlington Adzy?

Lol. not sure why any of my relatives would slag off Wayneo. He made all the gambling ones plenty!. Would love to have a reasoned chat with anyone that thinks Choc is even a patch on Wayneo.

We are the Wayneo fan club!! Oioi!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 06, 2014, 11:05:03 PM
The missus is going to Chester tomorrow night for work - her company is entertaining some clients. Do any of the brains here have any tips she can try and impress them with, as my knowledge is sadly lacking, and hers is a lot worse than mine!!


If she is going tomorrow night then she has missed it!

Jenny Powell is on the consistently unlucky Athletic in the third. Her fem touch may help to coax it home.

Charlottes Lad should also follow up. GL

When she said Friday I auto assumed it was an evening fixture! Will pass these on, cheers.


Just got to know which days to back em Ice ;)

one in the next us on my tracker aswell because she threw away thats chance last time out. If she doesnt get it tailed off and gets a clear run it was flyi ng last time out. If she gets stuck in behind she just sits there like she just did on athletic. You seen the price change on athletic, it didnt need to win lol

I must admit i was a bit nervvy, as didnt have a been on her this time, as I fancied a bit of chaos. She was defo unlucky as I think she would have given Kelly the slip, had she found the gaps. Obv a horse with plenty to give still.

entered on saturday at donny


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: edgascoigne on November 07, 2014, 02:49:54 PM
Thoughts on the Elite Hurdle at Wincanton tomorrow? I have a pretty strong opinion and would be handy to hear a couple of opinions to check I haven't been taking crazy pills as I think there is an absolutely knocking bet in there...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 07, 2014, 03:26:10 PM
Thoughts on the Elite Hurdle at Wincanton tomorrow? I have a pretty strong opinion and would be handy to hear a couple of opinions to check I haven't been taking crazy pills as I think there is an absolutely knocking bet in there...

Looks like a straight forward proven top class (ROR) vs potentially top class (irving) and ROR is giving it 12lb for the proven form. The rest have been exposed and only getting lumps of weight and irving not being the novice it appeared to be can lead to any of them winning. I like ROR but if fry thought it was still upto it then it wouldnt be here giving chunks away and irivng is no price for a horse that went out so tamely at cheltenham. As a purely watching brief I hope ROR gives them chunks and still beats them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on November 07, 2014, 03:59:45 PM
Was going to say something about the Mullins runner being 16-1 EW 1/4  1,2,3 with St. Anjames but they've pulled all their prices. SP only in their own race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on November 07, 2014, 04:03:46 PM
Irving likely winner, ROR seems to need a run back after a break - opposable on that basis. Hint Of Mint - possible improver e/w?  solid performance against The New One.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 07, 2014, 04:04:37 PM
I'm guessing Edwardo is thinking Starluck looks a big price.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on November 07, 2014, 04:13:07 PM
I struggle to get past the feeling that having a bet in this is paying to find out how fit they've got Rock on Ruby.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 07, 2014, 04:14:27 PM
Bertimont was impressive last time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 07, 2014, 04:27:48 PM
Bertimont was impressive last time.

What a strange race that was!

A racing 'Stop & Go'


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: edgascoigne on November 07, 2014, 05:59:36 PM
Nothing particularly imaginative but, at the risk of serious egg on face, I think RoR is a bombproof each-way bet.

If anyone in the world can get on with Spoils the 6/1 1/4 odds is one of the most idiotic pieces of pricing I've ever seen.

I fancy he goes off 3/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: swinebag22 on November 07, 2014, 11:30:48 PM
New to this thread and have done well as a lurker so feel the need to at least try and contribute.

Most firms paying 5 places in the November handicap tomorrow. Are there any bad bets?

FWIW I have had a small EW punt on Aramist @ 20s

Not concerned by the trip and the ground. Not sure how races run on the round course but am hoping the high draw is not a disadvantage here. Seems a decent price.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 08, 2014, 12:06:01 AM
New to this thread and have done well as a lurker so feel the need to at least try and contribute.

Most firms paying 5 places in the November handicap tomorrow. Are there any bad bets?

FWIW I have had a small EW punt on Aramist @ 20s

Not concerned by the trip and the ground. Not sure how races run on the round course but am hoping the high draw is not a disadvantage here. Seems a decent price.

Probably the most open one of the season, handicap good things have all been played and this will most likely be one that finally has its distance and ground.

Dont understand why treasure the ridge is the rag of the field at 40s, its form off its new mark isnt that far off the rest and its back on the ground that saw it win a similar event (off a much lower mark). Think he will improve for getting that useless wheel of fortune bird off and has had its best results in eased ground (won for dermot weld in bottomless ground). One of the huge turnaround stories of the season, claimed in a class six and four races later not disgracing himself in a listed race. Was on at 40s when he swooped late at sandown so happy to follow him anyway but think hes a much better then 40/1 show e/w

Athletic, cant believe anyone who watched its last run could believe this is a fair interpretation

"Slowly into stride, soon pushed along towards rear, headway on inside over 1f out, run flattened out and no impression inside final furlong opened 8/1 touched 5/1" sporting life lolol

14/1 is decent ew, disappointing lost one making it 15 runners, see who still pays 4 places tomorrow



Hope slade power does the business tonight and interested to see how the 1-30 at wincanton goes as think 3/4 are very nice and horizontal speed could be brilliant if it sorts its jumping (altho southfield threatre was way better over hurdles)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on November 08, 2014, 01:28:33 AM
fancy sirious prospect and rochdale house to run big races    and love mount logan for the november


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 08, 2014, 10:56:08 AM
Sad news about Solwhit, one of my favourite horses who won me a tidy sum when slooshing up in the 2013 World Hurdle. He broke a shoulder while schooling yesterday and had to be put down.

RIP Solwhit.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 08, 2014, 04:15:25 PM
New to this thread and have done well as a lurker so feel the need to at least try and contribute.

Most firms paying 5 places in the November handicap tomorrow. Are there any bad bets?

FWIW I have had a small EW punt on Aramist @ 20s

Not concerned by the trip and the ground. Not sure how races run on the round course but am hoping the high draw is not a disadvantage here. Seems a decent price.

n1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: swinebag22 on November 09, 2014, 08:56:14 AM
New to this thread and have done well as a lurker so feel the need to at least try and contribute.

Most firms paying 5 places in the November handicap tomorrow. Are there any bad bets?

FWIW I have had a small EW punt on Aramist @ 20s

Not concerned by the trip and the ground. Not sure how races run on the round course but am hoping the high draw is not a disadvantage here. Seems a decent price.

n1

Seemed a bizarre ride from the winner. Not sure that ground was any better.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 09, 2014, 09:42:47 AM
When interviewed after the race O'Meara said one of the owners knew they didn't water the wider areas of the course. Therefore the ground on the wider areas wouldn't be so deep.

Brave, but hindsight showed he was completely right.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on November 09, 2014, 10:20:55 AM
When interviewed after the race O'Meara said one of the owners knew they didn't water the wider areas of the course. Therefore the ground on the wider areas wouldn't be so deep.

Brave, but hindsight showed he was completely right.

Not often i agree with adz but, with all due respect, you must have been watching a different race to me Swine.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 09, 2014, 11:24:02 AM
Thoughts, if I may, on the 16:10 at Ffos Las, please?

A friend of mine is part of a syndicate, with approximately an eyelash of Bleu Et Or. Rated 107 from la belle France, with the favourite 91 but 7 pounds higher, having won a bumper.

Any direction welcome.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 09, 2014, 12:18:20 PM
Thoughts, if I may, on the 16:10 at Ffos Las, please?

A friend of mine is part of a syndicate, with approximately an eyelash of Bleu Et Or. Rated 107 from la belle France, with the favourite 91 but 7 pounds higher, having won a bumper.

Any direction welcome.

Looks like a job for the spider.

Very unexposed horses in a low-grade bumper. Winning with a penalty such as the favourite carries is normally fairly difficult in these kind of races, but in a small field like this who knows.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: swinebag22 on November 09, 2014, 03:24:45 PM
When interviewed after the race O'Meara said one of the owners knew they didn't water the wider areas of the course. Therefore the ground on the wider areas wouldn't be so deep.

Brave, but hindsight showed he was completely right.

Not often i agree with adz but, with all due respect, you must have been watching a different race to me Swine.

Watched the race and not saying it was a bad ride at all. But watching it at the time (ie without hindsight) I'd have thought with all the rain that fell, that those tactics would have left the horse too much to do. Looking at the race, most jockeys agreed with me, especially the ones drawn high that chose to still move inside.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 09, 2014, 09:29:21 PM
Open eagle wins whatever the jockey does.

Only jockey questions are for the two that tried to come up the ploughed field on the rail......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on November 13, 2014, 09:56:40 AM
Going to newcastle races tomorrow
Help me out please!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Simon Galloway on November 13, 2014, 01:31:34 PM
http://www.newcastle-racecourse.co.uk/about-us/find-us.php (http://www.newcastle-racecourse.co.uk/about-us/find-us.php)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on November 13, 2014, 05:51:12 PM
Pleaseeeee


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: swinebag22 on November 13, 2014, 11:43:06 PM
Going to newcastle races tomorrow
Help me out please!

Seems a poor card.

Best opportunity is in the 2.15 opposing the favourite. Not having a bet myself as  the opposition doesn't seem up to that much either. I'm sure when the experts come on here, they may find some value.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 14, 2014, 09:22:20 AM
Morning folks.

It's Cheltenham for me today. Other than "take a big coat", does anyone have any thoughts for the day's mudlarkery?

Handy Andy or Ballyoliver?

Dell'arca interests me. Think this could be a good horse to follow for the year.

Anay Turge/Next Sensation in the second.

I'd very much like to oppose Balthazar King in this miserable weather. Has anyone got any ideas?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on November 14, 2014, 09:33:28 AM
New page

Newcastle winners please?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 14, 2014, 10:05:07 AM
This was a report posted after the preview evening, Tal.

Worth attending a) if you happen to be in the area b) if you're happy to support the IJF and c) if you believe Gordon Elliott's forthright opinions are worth listening to. Every other panellist happy to state the bleeding obvious " I think Willie Mullins / Nicky Henderson holds the key - we'll know a lot more in 2 months time".

For those that are interested here are some of Gordon's "golden nuggets":

* Spent Friday with the Pipes. Thinks Broadway Buffalo is nailed on in the first race on Friday.
* Rates No More Heroes highly & keen to see him run in Ireland on Sunday.
* Chicago Grey has had a minor wind op since hid last run but is now an OAP
* Sweet on the chances of Dancing Meadows in Saturday's bumper but only if going is not soft
* Clarcam has had a wind op and is an exciting novice chase prospect.
* Delegate will win on his second run this season.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 14, 2014, 11:12:46 AM
New page

Newcastle winners please?


New youmzain is interesting e/w in the first as it stayed all day on the flat

Cln william is quite a gamble in second race but was most interested in vinny gambini back to 2m and won first out last season


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 14, 2014, 11:15:46 AM
Thanks, Marky


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on November 14, 2014, 11:23:05 AM
Ty swine and icles


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: edgascoigne on November 14, 2014, 11:29:25 AM
Ballyolivier in the first.

Next Sensation/Anay Turge in the 1350

Knight of Noir in the 1605


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 14, 2014, 11:36:15 AM
I think Urban Hymn in the 2.05pm could be interesting with some cut in the ground.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 14, 2014, 11:38:05 AM
Thanks, Marky

No worries :)


Did Astracad yesterday afternoon, then Linfoot put it up, and it looks like everyone else has piled in, too!


Bookie's benefit trebles/4fold

14:25 - Champagne West   
15:00 - Blaklion   
15:35 - Balthazar King   
16:05 - Cup Final


While I'm donating to them, I couldn't resist a yankee on Pipe's runners :)

13:15 - Broadway Buffalo
13:50 - Monetaire
14:25 - Dell' Arca
16:05 - Knight Of Noir



Good luck chaps!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: swinebag22 on November 14, 2014, 01:23:42 PM
Always feels like the start of the NH season proper when we get to this meeting at Chelters

Spent a bit of time trying to pick some good EW bets and found a few longish shots that have potential IMO.

I'm having

1.50
Hollow blue sky EW
Sew on target EW

3.35
Any Currency EW (edit: hate this now that we are down to 7)

Good luck everyone



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 14, 2014, 01:57:12 PM
Great race to start the cheltenham meeting, thought benbens wins if he tries he rides it to open up a gap earlier instead of waiting for them to come back.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 14, 2014, 02:03:41 PM
Great race to start the cheltenham meeting, thought benbens wins if he tries he rides it to open up a gap earlier instead of waiting for them to come back.

Was looking great, until the last few furlongs :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 14, 2014, 02:07:19 PM
Great race to start the cheltenham meeting, thought benbens wins if he tries he rides it to open up a gap earlier instead of waiting for them to come back.

Was looking great, until the last few furlongs :D

your boy just ignored the fences in the back straight lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 14, 2014, 02:08:41 PM
Great race to start the cheltenham meeting, thought benbens wins if he tries he rides it to open up a gap earlier instead of waiting for them to come back.

Was looking great, until the last few furlongs :D

your boy just ignored the fences in the back straight lol

Yeah, looked about as balanced as I am...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 14, 2014, 04:16:37 PM
What a great horse!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 14, 2014, 04:33:01 PM
What a great horse!

second aint bad either


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Honeybadger on November 14, 2014, 05:04:29 PM
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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 14, 2014, 06:55:13 PM
My biggest bet of the day was Knight of Noir, which I also had in a forecast with Cup Final (you know, just in case it came second...)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/11/20/article-1331579-0C29EEC2000005DC-874_306x423.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 15, 2014, 12:28:42 AM
Cheltenham have been trying to get the paddy power moved earlier because of the farce they had in the 14:25 today where they omitted nearly half the fences and it totally changed the race. Clear skies/low sun tomorrow and it will have to favour the the bad jumpers/ better flat speed horses. Oscar whiskeys chances have to improve if it becomes a flat race and less a jumping test.

Not often you see the cesaewitch winner face off against the grand national winner either


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 15, 2014, 01:04:17 AM
Got it slightly wrong today, had Urban Hymn to win and had it in a a win double with Parlour Games.  ;grr;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 15, 2014, 01:16:40 AM
Got it slightly wrong today, had Urban Hymn to win and had it in a a win double with Parlour Games.  ;grr;

Wasnt suited by them turning the race into a bumper


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 15, 2014, 01:08:39 PM
Creepy looks like a decent value-shout in the 1.15pm at Chelters especially @ the 6/1 on offer in one spot.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 15, 2014, 02:10:06 PM
Corals have Luke Morris at 7/2 to be allweather champ. Hes a class act on AW tracks but would ride a shetland pony if someone paid him so his strike rate is terrible. The thing is he rode 150 more times then his rival kirby last time and only 3 jockeys will ride enough to be competitive (morris, kirby, fanning- riding less then 400 would probably be unfeasable, fanning wont ride enough either imo). He can also ride off way lower then kirby.

Kirby is a worthy favourite just think its much closer to a match then morris a 7/2

Morris started fast again today (2 winners) got a few more chances. Needs to build up a cushion and is doing it. Coral only market at 2/1 now. Kirby abroad



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 16, 2014, 09:15:30 PM
was taken with isabella liberty that runs in the 12:45. No real markets up but nicholls horse will be fancied so should be an ok price and think she is one to watch


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on November 19, 2014, 04:44:21 PM
2.10 Brighton Birdie Queen  10/1  I've been on the lookout for Hector crouch's rides at Brighton where he seems to do very well with a 7lb claim, though maybe just a blip based on a small sample.  (possible theory: association with Moore family getting good pointers on how to ride there ??)  I've been more or less backing his rides here blind where they appear to have any sort of a chance - Birdie Queen is a course and distance winner with a piece of soft ground form, though unproven on heavy ground. At this price I'm happy to have a small e/w bet and hope there's not too many more non-runners.
Hector Crouch has another nice priced winner today 3.50 Kempton Gaelic Silver. I'ld backed this morning and had drifted out to SP 12-1. Ride and jockey covered (deservedly imo) in pretty glowing terms in commentary.
Not meant to be aftertimey, but to suggest again he is worth having in your tracker for the future. I will try and post here upcoming rides with half decent chances.
He has another ride tonight in the 6.55 as the 20-1 outsider of 6 which you couldn't really fancy, and another three rides at Kempton tomorrow, that I haven't looked at yet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on November 19, 2014, 06:50:54 PM
Reports of Sire de Grugy out for rest of the season, 5/2 on Sprinter Sacre will not last surely, although still a skinny price. Any thoughts from the experts?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on November 19, 2014, 08:13:47 PM


8pm tonight, Sky Sports 4

Racing Legends, Gary Newbon interviews Jonjo O'Neill, Peter Scudamore & John Francombe.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 19, 2014, 10:42:31 PM
Reports of Sire de Grugy out for rest of the season, 5/2 on Sprinter Sacre will not last surely, although still a skinny price. Any thoughts from the experts?

shame there isnt a distinct clear 3rd favourite. Tingle creek winner will probably be the value. (whatever backed back to win CC aswell).

cant help feeling if sacre was going to be the horse he was we would have seen him by now?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 20, 2014, 12:22:33 AM
2.10 Brighton Birdie Queen  10/1  I've been on the lookout for Hector crouch's rides at Brighton where he seems to do very well with a 7lb claim, though maybe just a blip based on a small sample.  (possible theory: association with Moore family getting good pointers on how to ride there ??)  I've been more or less backing his rides here blind where they appear to have any sort of a chance - Birdie Queen is a course and distance winner with a piece of soft ground form, though unproven on heavy ground. At this price I'm happy to have a small e/w bet and hope there's not too many more non-runners.
Hector Crouch has another nice priced winner today 3.50 Kempton Gaelic Silver. I'ld backed this morning and had drifted out to SP 12-1. Ride and jockey covered (deservedly imo) in pretty glowing terms in commentary.
Not meant to be aftertimey, but to suggest again he is worth having in your tracker for the future. I will try and post here upcoming rides with half decent chances.
He has another ride tonight in the 6.55 as the 20-1 outsider of 6 which you couldn't really fancy, and another three rides at Kempton tomorrow, that I haven't looked at yet.

He looks tidy and did well to not give away the ease of victory but gaelic silver wins that race with anyone on from the video. Other one was 10lb out of the handicap and just there to claim place money.

Top diktat isnt without a chance tomorrow


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on November 20, 2014, 02:55:34 PM
What do we think of Nico De Bonville? 

I can't seem to make up my mind.  Which is strange for me, I normally pigeon hole jockeys quite easily. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 20, 2014, 06:56:37 PM
A Frankel filly foal went under the hammer for €1.8M at Goffs today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Girgy85 on November 21, 2014, 09:27:30 AM
Sirius Prospect won yesterday at Kempton :(

Early price was 13/2 came in at 11/4fav


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 21, 2014, 10:45:52 AM
Sirius Prospect won yesterday at Kempton :(

Early price was 13/2 came in at 11/4fav

was an easy bet, won same day last season in a better race (has won and run well previously on aw on last day of season, excellent record in Nov).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ForthThistle on November 21, 2014, 10:51:41 AM
Off to Haydock with the Boys tomorrow. Will be watching this Thread for bets.

Looks a cracking meeting and what a betfair chase.

all help greatly received.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: swinebag22 on November 21, 2014, 01:31:44 PM
Off to Haydock with the Boys tomorrow. Will be watching this Thread for bets.

Looks a cracking meeting and what a betfair chase.

all help greatly received.

I normally go to this every year but have a long time arranged weekend away. Have a great time Davie.

I see that Double Ross is a massive price for the Betfair chase. This after a decent run in the Charlie hall against a lot of tomorrow's contenders after receiving a fair bit of support itt. Apart from the inclusion of a few market leaders, is there any good reason not to have an EW punt?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on November 21, 2014, 03:45:15 PM
Can someone get a small bet on for me at Bet365 please?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: swinebag22 on November 21, 2014, 03:58:32 PM
Can someone get a small bet on for me at Bet365 please?

will do if you trust me and its not too late (and small means small) :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 21, 2014, 04:01:14 PM
I quite like Harry Topper's chances tomorrow in what looks like being a stamina-sapping slog at Haydock, especially when it's 14/1 with 1/4 odds 1-2-3.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on November 21, 2014, 04:04:50 PM
I quite like Harry Topper's chances tomorrow in what looks like being a stamina-sapping slog at Haydock, especially when it's 14/1 with 1/4 odds 1-2-3.

Karabiner can read my mind.

That's the one I'm backing.

Sorted now, thanks guys.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 21, 2014, 04:07:41 PM
I quite like Harry Topper's chances tomorrow in what looks like being a stamina-sapping slog at Haydock, especially when it's 14/1 with 1/4 odds 1-2-3.

Even better Knobright has been watering this week....



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 22, 2014, 01:36:16 PM
1.00 at ascot was an utter calamity


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 22, 2014, 01:38:44 PM
1.00 at ascot was an utter calamity

Harry had been on the Ketamin :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on November 22, 2014, 01:40:33 PM
sneaky feeling zamdy man and or/ first avenue can grab 2nd behind the new one and fagheen at 20/1 and 66/1 and put them both in e/w trebles with a few others. Only one i quite like e/w today is rose of the moon in the 3.35 apart from that its small stakes feet up watching brief today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 22, 2014, 02:24:18 PM
sneaky feeling zamdy man and or/ first avenue can grab 2nd behind the new one and fagheen at 20/1 and 66/1 and put them both in e/w trebles with a few others. Only one i quite like e/w today is rose of the moon in the 3.35 apart from that its small stakes feet up watching brief today.

decent shout on zamdy man


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on November 22, 2014, 03:07:02 PM
Yes , Zamdy had to be backed - well done. Good luck with the multiples.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on November 23, 2014, 02:08:07 PM
2.25 Navan I will be having 2pts ew Balbriggan and Broody Hill both 14-1.  1pt ew Bose Ikard and Panorama 16/1 and 20/1 respectively . All with Ladbrokes, posting from phone , prices from Ladbrokes shop 10 mins ago make sure you get 5 places if you bet. good luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 23, 2014, 02:54:40 PM
plunge going in on balbriggan


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 23, 2014, 03:02:42 PM
plunge going in on balbriggan

thats why....

n1 simon


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Micko on November 23, 2014, 06:11:33 PM
2.25 Navan I will be having 2pts ew Balbriggan and Broody Hill both 14-1.  1pt ew Bose Ikard and Panorama 16/1 and 20/1 respectively . All with Ladbrokes, posting from phone , prices from Ladbrokes shop 10 mins ago make sure you get 5 places if you bet. good luck

Cheers Simon!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 24, 2014, 01:09:13 PM
Easy day after laying west wizard, see him next year lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on November 25, 2014, 02:54:21 PM
Horse racing just got even sillier after the 1.20 at Sedgefield was voided because someone working for the course waved a yellow flag at the riders instead of a chequered flag during the race.  The riders did exactly what they should have done if the guy had waived the correct flag and it made not a jot of difference to the result but its void because someone waived a flag.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 25, 2014, 06:47:13 PM
Horse racing just got even sillier after the 1.20 at Sedgefield was voided because someone working for the course waved a yellow flag at the riders instead of a chequered flag during the race.  The riders did exactly what they should have done if the guy had waived the correct flag and it made not a jot of difference to the result but its void because someone waived a flag.




Jockeys got a 10 day ban.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on November 25, 2014, 09:08:37 PM
Very poor show and seems the jocks were hard done by. Not all bad though, if you had happened to back the horse that (didn't) finish third  ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 28, 2014, 03:54:46 PM
Hennessy Gold Cup day at Newbury tomorrow and the main event is 1/4 odds 1-2-3-4 which always tickles the shrewdies fancies.

I'm rather keen on Fingal Bay who returned last back-end almost as good as new after a lengthy layoff. Some may remember that he trounced Simonsig fair and square as a novice hurdler and if he's coming back to that level of form over fences he might be hard to beat. He's still only an 8-y-o.

There's a little 9/1 in spots with some non-bookmakers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 28, 2014, 05:03:32 PM
Hennessy Gold Cup day at Newbury tomorrow and the main event is 1/4 odds 1-2-3-4 which always tickles the shrewdies fancies.

I'm rather keen on Fingal Bay who returned last back-end almost as good as new after a lengthy layoff. Some may remember that he trounced Simonsig fair and square as a novice hurdler and if he's coming back to that level of form over fences he might be hard to beat. He's still only an 8-y-o.

There's a little 9/1 in spots with some non-bookmakers.

5 places sky, more will follow tomorrow, fingal bay only 8s there but a drifter today

Will be taking triolo d'alene, midnight prayer and monbeg dude.

Wheres adz? Where is the many clouds one man fan club



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 28, 2014, 05:43:46 PM
Did Many Clouds before it was pricewised, and hopefully the fact it's not been very strong is down to the prior overreaction.

Backed Unioniste on Thursday morning with a free bet I had, when they were 28s, and not sure why it's come in so much the last 2 days.

Spoke to Adz yesterday and he's just having a bit of a break, but is hoping that we're not weighing Many Clouds down too much ;D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on November 28, 2014, 06:05:45 PM
Did Many Clouds before it was pricewised, and hopefully the fact it's not been very strong is down to the prior overreaction.

Backed Unioniste on Thursday morning with a free bet I had, when they were 28s, and not sure why it's come in so much the last 2 days.

Spoke to Adz yesterday and he's just having a bit of a break, but is hoping that we're not weighing Many Clouds down too much ;D



Shame he is not around, glad to here he will be back. Many Clouds has the full weight of my free bets (there are a few) on its back. Add in Neil's fancies and we have the 1-2-3. Good luck all.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 28, 2014, 07:31:45 PM
Victors serenade was another of adzys winners here newcastle 2-40 13/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on November 29, 2014, 07:23:36 AM
Hope shotgun paddy wins at 25/1 today ew


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 29, 2014, 09:25:08 AM
Morning Line was incred!

Thought Ruby was going to climb over Mick Fitz to get at Geoff Banks :D



Hope shotgun paddy wins at 25/1 today ew

Be a shock if it does, but gl mate!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 29, 2014, 09:27:01 AM
shotgun paddy only runs as a warm up for the welsh national


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 29, 2014, 09:34:54 AM
The Geoff banks line on Jim best was superb


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on November 29, 2014, 09:48:31 AM
The Geoff banks line on Jim best was superb

Missed it, what was the line?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on November 29, 2014, 09:48:52 AM
Where has Adzy gone?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 29, 2014, 09:50:39 AM
The Geoff banks line on Jim best was superb

Missed it, what was the line?

The new proposal for jocks to get a percentage of riding fee if on a non runner taken out after 9am

Something along the lines of "good for those riding for Jim best"

Nice to see someone challenge the quo on a racing
programme


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on November 29, 2014, 09:52:57 AM
The Geoff banks line on Jim best was superb

Missed it, what was the line?

The new proposal for jocks to get a percentage of riding fee if on a non runner taken out after 9am

Something along the lines of "good for those riding for Jim best"

Nice to see someone challenge the quo on a racing
programme

Amazing the bloke still has a license.

Bent more rules than Uri Geller has spoons.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 29, 2014, 09:55:26 AM
Aye not sure I would want to challenge him mind after the incident with suzy smith and the shotgun!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on November 29, 2014, 10:09:26 AM
Aye not sure I would want to challenge him mind after the incident with suzy smith and the shotgun!


????

link?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 29, 2014, 10:16:58 AM
shotgun paddy only runs as a warm up for the welsh national

Adz text me on Tuesday, to say that he had been down at Emma Lavelle's with Rog Brookhouse that afternoon.

He said that they were very keen on SP for the WN, and then Segal put it up in the Racing Post on Thursday.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 29, 2014, 10:31:32 AM
Aye not sure I would want to challenge him mind after the incident with suzy smith and the shotgun!


????

link?

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/4301166.Gun_scare_as_Lewes_horse_racing_rivals_fall_out/


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on November 29, 2014, 03:38:43 PM
adz knew


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on November 29, 2014, 03:39:28 PM
adz knew

Ghost of Adz tipped it up.  Great stuff


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on November 29, 2014, 03:47:26 PM
adz knew

Adz knows!

Well played fella.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on November 29, 2014, 04:03:34 PM
Well done Adz, xmas is all paid for thanks to you. Cheers mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 29, 2014, 04:36:11 PM
Lets hope he can do a Bobs now!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 29, 2014, 04:59:36 PM
Glad the good guys have all won a few bob!!

 ;hattip;

No pleasing some people though.

The wife, having just been told she can now have her Florida/Carib Cruise in Feb, was more concerned that "I suppose that means another bloody horse painting in the toilet"

OiOiOi

Great Trainer, that Sherwood fella!! ;applause; ;applause; ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Micko on November 29, 2014, 05:04:12 PM
Nice one Adz :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mickyp on November 29, 2014, 05:12:35 PM
Thanks adz, been Crimbo shopping with Mrs, came home and watched the replay. Free rolling Christmas, woop woop


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 29, 2014, 05:17:25 PM
Good stuff Adzy  ;hattip;  

Only a small saver for me today, I should have known better.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on November 29, 2014, 05:22:29 PM
Glad the good guys have all won a few bob!!

 ;hattip;

No pleasing some people though.

The wife, having just been told she can now have her Florida/Carib Cruise in Feb, was more concerned that "I suppose that means another bloody horse painting in the toilet"

OiOiOi

Great Trainer, that Sherwood fella!! ;applause; ;applause; ;applause;

Well done bud


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on November 30, 2014, 11:29:17 AM
Glad the good guys have all won a few bob!!

 ;hattip;

No pleasing some people though.

The wife, having just been told she can now have her Florida/Carib Cruise in Feb, was more concerned that "I suppose that means another bloody horse painting in the toilet"

OiOiOi

Great Trainer, that Sherwood fella!! ;applause; ;applause; ;applause;

Well done Adzy, Chairman of the MCFC.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 30, 2014, 12:24:35 PM
An absolute belter of a card at Fairyhouse today.

No really strong opinions as of yet, but some fascinating races.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 30, 2014, 12:27:32 PM
Richie Rich's mob all having a jolly boys outing!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 30, 2014, 12:43:43 PM
The Tullow Tank is undoubtedly a lovely talented horse and was most impressive over fences last time out, but in my mind I always have questions about whether it's form is strictly kosher after being with Philip Fenton when the horse improved out of all recognition in the early part of last year, before moving stables after the first whiff of the steroids scandal.

I know that with humans the "benefits" of steroids can last for several years after taking them so presumably that would also be the case for race-horses.

Just my 2c.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on November 30, 2014, 05:30:07 PM
The Tullow Tank is undoubtedly a lovely talented horse and was most impressive over fences last time out, but in my mind I always have questions about whether it's form is strictly kosher after being with Philip Fenton when the horse improved out of all recognition in the early part of last year, before moving stables after the first whiff of the steroids scandal.

I know that with humans the "benefits" of steroids can last for several years after taking them so presumably that would also be the case for race-horses.

Just my 2c.

I think this is an interesting angle Ralph, will be interesting to see how some of these horses run and if there is an obvious reason if they do disappoint. Think Mark Johnston's point when he was complaining about Aussie horses being allowed to be trained on gear out of season is that the benefits in terms of strength and muscle that they get from these drugs benefits them even when they are later classed as running clean.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 01, 2014, 12:43:03 PM
Afternoon

While the Girlies are getting all excited about X Factor/Strictly and IACGMOOH, time to slip in the back door and make my last recommend of the year here.

On my travels I was told the stable were very keen on the chances of Highland Lodge for the Beecher Chase on Saturday.

It has always seemed to me a horse that promises a lot and threatens to have a big one in him, but has almost regressed over the last couple of seasons. However, he ran well LTO when not fully wound up for a race at Chepstow(hmm, I think I may have tipped the 16-1 winner of that. ;)). It was also his first time with the visor on which they feel helped him maintain concentration.

On Saturday, I am hoping the fences will play into his strengths as a generally good jumper. He should have very little weight, and he is rated a few pounds lower than his last win. At 8 he can still have improvement left in him, and he appears to go on any ground. Hopefully the visor will continue to help.

Whilst Aspell is riding these big races superbly atm, I would prefer to see Aiden on him, as he seems to have a better rapport with the horse. I don't see what else he would ride, based on recent performances, but Venitia may have something to say about that. We shall see nearer the time.

With several of the prominent names on the betting list likely to miss the race after recent exertions, I am liking the 20-1 on offer e/w, and have had as much as I dare on at this stage. Have a good week and GL.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 01, 2014, 04:55:27 PM
Secret Fan Club helping to send HL to 3rd on todays Most Popular Bets on Oddschecker!

I knew you were out there.......





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on December 01, 2014, 05:46:06 PM
Just backed it, good to see you posting.

Thanks

Rick


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on December 01, 2014, 05:49:27 PM
Thanks Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nuros on December 01, 2014, 05:53:55 PM
Yup I'm on too, go Adz! :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2014, 06:05:32 PM
You might have waited until I got back from golf before putting that up :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on December 01, 2014, 06:55:09 PM
Cheers, Adz. (And well done Paddy for standing me the full ten pounds).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on December 01, 2014, 06:58:03 PM
Afternoon

While the Girlies are getting all excited about X Factor/Strictly and IACGMOOH, time to slip in the back door and make my last recommend of the year here.

On my travels I was told the stable were very keen on the chances of Highland Lodge for the Beecher Chase on Saturday.

It has always seemed to me a horse that promises a lot and threatens to have a big one in him, but has almost regressed over the last couple of seasons. However, he ran well LTO when not fully wound up for a race at Chepstow(hmm, I think I may have tipped the 16-1 winner of that. ;)). It was also his first time with the visor on which they feel helped him maintain concentration.

On Saturday, I am hoping the fences will play into his strengths as a generally good jumper. He should have very little weight, and he is rated a few pounds lower than his last win. At 8 he can still have improvement left in him, and he appears to go on any ground. Hopefully the visor will continue to help.

Whilst Aspell is riding these big races superbly atm, I would prefer to see Aiden on him, as he seems to have a better rapport with the horse. I don't see what else he would ride, based on recent performances, but Venitia may have something to say about that. We shall see nearer the time.

With several of the prominent names on the betting list likely to miss the race after recent exertions, I am liking the 20-1 on offer e/w, and have had as much as I dare on at this stage. Have a good week and GL.

Ads, cheers once again.

I have some at 20s if you need more? Also can i offer £20 E/W to TFT?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on December 01, 2014, 07:09:52 PM
On.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 01, 2014, 09:53:21 PM
Thanks for the offer B2B.

Got enough on at the moment. Plenty of 20s on board, but may ask a favour if final decs give us another opportunity. Cheers



As a footnote, for those of us living the Many Clouds dream that he can go the distance, I stumbled across a pleasing little stat.

The three horses that won the Hennessy, this century, carrying 11.6 or more, that ran in the Gold Cup that season have finished 121. Dream's on boys! ;kev;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 02, 2014, 04:01:01 PM
Some reading for the MCFC whose ranks seem to have swollen somewhat of late...

https://www.timeform.com/Racing/Articles/Ratings_Update_Can_Clouds_develop_into_a_Cheltenham_contender


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on December 02, 2014, 05:35:16 PM
Thanks for the offer B2B.

Got enough on at the moment. Plenty of 20s on board, but may ask a favour if final decs give us another opportunity. Cheers



As a footnote, for those of us living the Many Clouds dream that he can go the distance, I stumbled across a pleasing little stat.

The three horses that won the Hennessy, this century, carrying 11.6 or more, that ran in the Gold Cup that season have finished 121. Dream's on boys! ;kev;


were def meeting up at the festival next year!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 02, 2014, 07:10:24 PM
Some reading for the MCFC whose ranks seem to have swollen somewhat of late...

https://www.timeform.com/Racing/Articles/Ratings_Update_Can_Clouds_develop_into_a_Cheltenham_contender

Lovely horse undoubtedly but worth remembering it does need softish ground.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 02, 2014, 07:47:44 PM
Some reading for the MCFC whose ranks seem to have swollen somewhat of late...

https://www.timeform.com/Racing/Articles/Ratings_Update_Can_Clouds_develop_into_a_Cheltenham_contender


I remain amazed at how some of these guys actually get paid for working in the sport I love. If only!!!

So having just won the Hensessy at 7, and showing all the sort of traits as a "potential" Gold Cup horse, and a horse on the up, this muppet thinks she should bypass The Holy Grail to run in a race that he probably has 4 more years to contest, should he not be able to play at the very top table.

The National is a race won by horses 9/10/11, and the few 8 year old winners I remember never had pretensions to make it at the very top level, and were well handicapped "plodders".

I take on board what Ralph says, but he has yet to be fully tried on Good ground as a chaser, and he is proving more versatile than many thought. Most of those writing him off previously were those that thought he wouldn't stay. Those same people are  now knocking him because they now think that's all he is!

If he never wins another race, so be it, he owes me nothing, and fulfilled (nearly) all my hopes for him. The rest realistically will be a bonus, and with a chunk on at between 80s and 40-1, I'm happy to keep dreaming til mid March.

Think a meet is long overdue Mr Trigg.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 03, 2014, 11:10:51 AM
Some reading for the MCFC whose ranks seem to have swollen somewhat of late...

https://www.timeform.com/Racing/Articles/Ratings_Update_Can_Clouds_develop_into_a_Cheltenham_contender


I remain amazed at how some of these guys actually get paid for working in the sport I love. If only!!!

So having just won the Hensessy at 7, and showing all the sort of traits as a "potential" Gold Cup horse, and a horse on the up, this muppet thinks she should bypass The Holy Grail to run in a race that he probably has 4 more years to contest, should he not be able to play at the very top table.

The National is a race won by horses 9/10/11, and the few 8 year old winners I remember never had pretensions to make it at the very top level, and were well handicapped "plodders".

I take on board what Ralph says, but he has yet to be fully tried on Good ground as a chaser, and he is proving more versatile than many thought. Most of those writing him off previously were those that thought he wouldn't stay. Those same people are  now knocking him because they now think that's all he is!

If he never wins another race, so be it, he owes me nothing, and fulfilled (nearly) all my hopes for him. The rest realistically will be a bonus, and with a chunk on at between 80s and 40-1, I'm happy to keep dreaming til mid March.

Think a meet is long overdue Mr Trigg.

Didn't get to watch the race on Saturday, just been watching it as my dad recorded it. What a fantastic race, glad I didn't see it in real time, think I would have had a heart attack, even watching it at no point did I think MC had the minerals to beat McCoy or the top weight, then all of a sudden he just the last in front, battles with McCoy and starts to get the better of him, pulling away. Great animal. Well done Adz hope you get the lot at Cheltenham. Will you be going to watch it?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 03, 2014, 12:06:56 PM
Hi Scott.

Try to avoid GC day these days. TBH I love the opening roar on the Tuesday, have to go, as Roger has his formal box on the Wednesday. Happier being in the pub on the Thursday and Friday, even if they do have runners.

If MC is still in the frame, come March, I hope Roger has a runner on the Friday.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 04, 2014, 12:25:52 PM
Nice article on RUK about Highland Lodge for the Beecher. Interview with EL confirming this is the aim, and if he doesn't win this the rest of the seasons plans are pretty much defunct.

We are defo on a trier!


Edit. Just checked the final decs. Was feeling good looking down the list. Hopes were building. STOP...................

We have Andrew Thornton doing his best John Wayne, on board.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ;grr;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 04, 2014, 06:58:53 PM
Andrew "The Anchor" Thornton and his cavalry-length irons.

Unlikely to come off at least looking on the bright side..


Any thoughts about Somersby's chances in the Tingle Creek?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 05, 2014, 03:13:58 AM
Argh..

It's a toughie Ralph.

He has been rated at 164-166 for almost 3 years at his peak. If you look at the ratings for this, it would pretty much be good enough wouldn't it?!

He loomed up alongside Alf LTO and sure looked to have retained his ability, and come boxing Day, it could look top class.

 I pretty much think it's between the top four in the betting, with the two youngs guns a bit short for my punting delectation.

For me, it was an ew toss up tween sommersby and Oscar.

I have gone the Oscar route, as I was always in the "should have gone Champ Hurdle" route, and felt he was forced into staying as he was in an era of Hendo Hotpots at 2m. He has yet to run at 2mile over fences, and if he can stick with them along the Railways, he may outstay them up the hill.

Looking forward to it. Not seen a nice competitive TC for ages, like this. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 05, 2014, 07:12:05 AM
SB doing money back as a free bet £25 on the Becher Chase on Saturday for 2nd to 5th. Adz's Highland Lodge s 16/1 (other horses available)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 05, 2014, 11:03:15 AM
Hector Crouch rides Gaelic Silver in 3.40 Ling today 4-1, looks to have a decent chance as a C&D winner. Don't think there's massive value at the price but don't think it can be too bad, especially if like me you think HC is adding some value. Backed into 7/2 in places


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 05, 2014, 11:27:21 AM
Adz/anyone ? would be interested if you have any thoughts on The Package @ 25-1 e/w for The Becher Chase. Ran and jumped creditably for a long way in last year's National and racing style should suit.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 05, 2014, 12:26:56 PM
Adz/anyone ? would be interested if you have any thoughts on The Package @ 25-1 e/w for The Becher Chase. Ran and jumped creditably for a long way in last year's National and racing style should suit.


One of those few horses i could never be objective about I'm afraid mate, having been on the wrong side of a few beatings early doors and then jumping on board when he gets stuffed.

Will be forever funking against him, talented as he is. Those around the same weight I would rather be on the potential of Just A Par or Green Flag, however course experience is invaluable.

I wish you luck Sir.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 05, 2014, 12:53:05 PM
Thanks Adz. As you know I've often been guilty of betting first and asking for advice second ! I have to own up to having had the minimum already on him for an interest, but I shall leave it at that. Some cracking racing to enjoy whatever the result, good luck.
 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 05, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
Decent racing from sandown today with solid backup from exeter. 1.55 should be hugely informative as four of the best potential novice hurdlers go head to head. 1.20 was pretty epic four in a line over the last. (bet the handicapper had a cheeky one in celebration).

Unfortunately Saphir du Rheu put in a very nice round (as Id backed horizontal speed and nobody wants to see SDR chasing)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 05, 2014, 02:22:01 PM
Plan for today was to follow Coiln Tizzard's runners - didn't really fancy Ultragold though...  ;reallyamsorry;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 05, 2014, 02:23:52 PM
Plan for today was to follow Coiln Tizzard's runners - didn't really fancy Ultragold though...  ;reallyamsorry;

Third act would be the definition of following blind lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 05, 2014, 02:33:48 PM
Did have a little on Robinsfirth in 2.15 @ 10-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 05, 2014, 02:39:43 PM
Did have a little on Robinsfirth in 2.15 @ 10-1

work in progress and the doom bar e/w

shantou bob running twice as far and gettng beat a nose hasnt helped the cause (surely over 20f thats a dead heat tho)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 05, 2014, 02:49:07 PM
Did have a little on Robinsfirth in 2.15 @ 10-1

OIOI


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 05, 2014, 02:50:55 PM
Not on myself, but was cheering him in!

Well done, Simon :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 05, 2014, 02:58:15 PM
That cheered me up a bit. Here's a free tip - if you're on a brutal diet and feeling a bit down, probably best not to watch Masterchef !


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 05, 2014, 03:14:33 PM
That cheered me up a bit. Here's a free tip - if you're on a brutal diet and feeling a bit down, probably best not to watch Masterchef !

Or watching US sports, where every other advert tells you that it's possible to feed a small country for about $10!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 05, 2014, 03:26:12 PM
Think Desert Strike is a good example of front running winners being undervalued as discussed on the betting lab programme. All the commentary after was talk of a soft lead given away/eyecatchers making ground from the rear, but DS ran a decent time.  Wish I had ignored the drift in the market and topped up at 16's.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 05, 2014, 04:12:09 PM
Nice call simon although that was a little stressful way to do it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 05, 2014, 04:17:58 PM
Nice call simon although that was a little stressful way to do it

Bloody hell. U want ur winners on a plate don't you icicles!! :D

Another top call from Simon. Wp mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 05, 2014, 04:31:49 PM
Nice call simon although that was a little stressful way to do it

Bloody hell. U want ur winners on a plate don't you icicles!! :D

Another top call from Simon. Wp mate

Thought we were getting "athletic'ed" again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 06, 2014, 09:59:05 AM
Public obviously enjoyed him baiting Ruby, and Banks is back on the Morning Line next week :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 06, 2014, 01:13:44 PM
Public obviously enjoyed him baiting Ruby, and Banks is back on the Morning Line next week :D


Should have got him on the same week as mccoy, think if he baited mccoy the way he did ruby there would have been fireworks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 06, 2014, 02:29:06 PM
Poor run from Lodge.

Obviously Thornton didn't do either of

A, listen to instructions

B, watch the tv interview with Emma

as all she has ever said is that he needs to lead.


Sigh.. Onwards


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 06, 2014, 02:42:23 PM
What sad news about Balbriggan RIP.   What a rollercoaster of emotions it must be for connections, from elation and glory a fortnight ago to desolation today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 06, 2014, 03:35:30 PM
I was having a night cap or two late last night listening to this:
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIs8jJVOF6k

Sometimes a bit irritating, but I listen in for Calum Madell's contributions. He used to have a website that I mentioned once or twice on TFT. Think he is working for a paid tipping site now.

Watch 4.51 - 7.07  where he nails the Becher Chase

Funny thing was I had completely forgotten backing him and only realised when I went to my bet log to tot up my losses for the day  :D   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 06, 2014, 03:39:37 PM
Dodge pots abound in the Tingle Creek.

One o them days!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 06, 2014, 03:59:44 PM
oscar whisky put down aswell, terrible day


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 06, 2014, 04:23:39 PM
oscar whisky put down aswell, terrible day


V Sad. Bad Day indeed. :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on December 06, 2014, 04:34:42 PM
oscar whisky put down aswell, terrible day


V Sad. Bad Day indeed. :(

Terrible news.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 07, 2014, 02:44:13 PM
Amazing display from wishful thinking, when he fancies it, its some watch


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on December 07, 2014, 02:59:55 PM
Amazing display from wishful thinking, when he fancies it, its some watch

Can't believe they switched the Peterborough Chase to Sunday without me noticing.   Might have to have a trip down next year.   

Seem to have got Wishful Thinking wrong throughout his career, but winning that at 11 is pretty good going after seemingly losing his way.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2014, 06:05:39 PM
Wishfull Thinking's wind-op might be one of the best ever.

I reckon Dickie's had one too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 09, 2014, 09:41:50 AM
Going to have my minimum stake e/w (I know the race isn't great for this) on Native Explorer with Gavin Sheehan on board at 40-1 12.20 Uttox.
Being a Kayf Tara and likely to go on the ground, bit of a lottery but you never know.  Similar angle to Gilnockie yesterday, which I didn't get round to backing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 09, 2014, 10:26:06 AM
Going to have my minimum stake e/w (I know the race isn't great for this) on Native Explorer with Gavin Sheehan on board at 40-1 12.20 Uttox.
Being a Kayf Tara and likely to go on the ground, bit of a lottery but you never know.  Similar angle to Gilnockie yesterday, which I didn't get round to backing.
In same race, on same basis will keep an eye on the market for Broome Lane - maybe more of a chasing type? and Katarrhini - a little short for my taste at current 14-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 09, 2014, 01:06:28 PM
Going to have my minimum stake e/w (I know the race isn't great for this) on Native Explorer with Gavin Sheehan on board at 40-1 12.20 Uttox.
Being a Kayf Tara and likely to go on the ground, bit of a lottery but you never know.  Similar angle to Gilnockie yesterday, which I didn't get round to backing.

Beaten a long way as might be expected, but not far out of the frame in 4th


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 10, 2014, 01:16:09 PM
9.10 Dundalk I want to oppose what looks like a very short fav in Elusive Laurence. Admittedly she's gone close last couple of times over 10f, but on all known sire form shouln't improve for step up to 12f. Will take Headlong @ 8-1 with BetVictor 1pt e/w

Sparkling Ice Lingfield 13:30 1pt e/w 16-1 various, try and get best odds g'teed

The Hector Crouch Fan Club is in action today. he's  on  Meddling Lingfield 15:30 sadly the 6-1 available last night has disappeared. currently 9/2 and don't see much value at that price.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 10, 2014, 01:29:31 PM
nd get best odds g'teed

The Hector Crouch Fan Club is in action today. he's  on  Meddling Lingfield 15:30 sadly the 6-1 available last night has disappeared. currently 9/2 and don't see much value at that price.

Oh, just seen it's been put up by Hugh Taylor, that's whay the price went


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 10, 2014, 11:29:41 PM
9.10 Dundalk I want to oppose what looks like a very short fav in Elusive Laurence. Admittedly she's gone close last couple of times over 10f, but on all known sire form shouln't improve for step up to 12f. Will take Headlong @ 8-1 with BetVictor 1pt e/w

Sparkling Ice Lingfield 13:30 1pt e/w 16-1 various, try and get best odds g'teed

The Hector Crouch Fan Club is in action today. he's  on  Meddling Lingfield 15:30 sadly the 6-1 available last night has disappeared. currently 9/2 and don't see much value at that price.

I felt strongly enough about Elusive Laurence to lay it, which I rarely do. Frustrating that it got home by a neck in a race run nearly 8 secs over standard, being allowed to dictate the pace.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 11, 2014, 12:11:37 AM
Points update:

Profit     Amt Bet         ROI
2.6pts      106pts        2.45%


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on December 11, 2014, 12:49:34 AM
The novice chaser I've been most impressed with so far this season runs at Newcastle tomorrow.

Three Kingdoms jumped the big fences like he'd been doing it all his life LTO.

This is a weaker race and anything above 1/2 will be fair IMO.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 11, 2014, 12:50:20 PM
2.20 Newcastle Grey Area 1pt e/w 16/1   Has won over further on this course on heavy ground, seems a decent price if we assume stamina will be key in these conditions.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on December 11, 2014, 01:26:46 PM
The novice chaser I've been most impressed with so far this season runs at Newcastle tomorrow.

Three Kingdoms jumped the big fences like he'd been doing it all his life LTO.

This is a weaker race and anything above 1/2 will be fair IMO.

Meh. Bit disappointed really.

Didn't jump nearly as well as he did at Leicester and the pre race drift was alarming.

Looked like winning half the track on the home bend but ended up scrambling home.

Thought he might be a live one for the Festival, not so sure now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on December 11, 2014, 01:37:37 PM
Maybe I underestimated the opposition.

Ifandbywhynot was decent over hurdles, just his two previous attempts over fences weren't very good.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on December 11, 2014, 01:46:39 PM
The novice chaser I've been most impressed with so far this season runs at Newcastle tomorrow.

Three Kingdoms jumped the big fences like he'd been doing it all his life LTO.

This is a weaker race and anything above 1/2 will be fair IMO.

Thanks for posting


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 11, 2014, 01:54:34 PM
The novice chaser I've been most impressed with so far this season runs at Newcastle tomorrow.

Three Kingdoms jumped the big fences like he'd been doing it all his life LTO.

This is a weaker race and anything above 1/2 will be fair IMO.

Meh. Bit disappointed really.

Didn't jump nearly as well as he did at Leicester and the pre race drift was alarming.

Looked like winning half the track on the home bend but ended up scrambling home.

Thought he might be a live one for the Festival, not so sure now.

Thanks very much Keith, couldn't watch the race but was on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on December 11, 2014, 04:29:45 PM
The novice chaser I've been most impressed with so far this season runs at Newcastle tomorrow.

Three Kingdoms jumped the big fences like he'd been doing it all his life LTO.

This is a weaker race and anything above 1/2 will be fair IMO.

Good call bud.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 11, 2014, 08:16:54 PM
Maybe I underestimated the opposition.

Ifandbywhynot was decent over hurdles, just his two previous attempts over fences weren't very good.


Ifandbut did us a favour on here last year, and I was keen to see him go right handed on a flat track. Sadly I was on a plane so missed the chance to spunk some cash!

That Kingdoms beat him giving him a good chunk would mean his is a decent prospect.

Mr Fergy seems to be getting the placement of his decent animals a little better this year, and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him run well off a nice weight in the GA


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 11, 2014, 11:18:11 PM
Was impressed by isabella liberty on debut, disappointing following up but hopeful that was just the ground. If it hold GTS or better (be lucky its rank out) then think shes a very interesting. Getting a stone as a three year old/ novice. Strange entry but thought this one looked worth following. 9/1 few places atm

Good tip earlier camel, wouldnt be downbeat on it as 4 runner race over fences  usually count for nothing. Decent experience and better it gets a race, especially in fergusons yard where they rarely have the ground to run this time of year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 12, 2014, 01:09:48 PM
I can understand why uncle junior is a dog against the field in the 2.40 as its giving weight all round but the price difference with big shu makes no sense. Big shu on the betting is a better horse then balthazar king (based on last running over CD), which it clearly isnt.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on December 12, 2014, 01:51:03 PM
went to a charity boxing night last night a lot of faces about including this legend  https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10360612_10154917060180384_5381771138152479780_n.jpg?oh=e0fa6b21e3ec3b62cf734256e7ec8427&oe=54F8F81D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 12, 2014, 02:16:44 PM
Was impressed by isabella liberty on debut, disappointing following up but hopeful that was just the ground. If it hold GTS or better (be lucky its rank out) then think shes a very interesting. Getting a stone as a three year old/ novice. Strange entry but thought this one looked worth following. 9/1 few places atm



Jumped awful

Starluck lol gtfo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 12, 2014, 02:19:56 PM
went to a charity boxing night last night a lot of faces about including this legend  https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10360612_10154917060180384_5381771138152479780_n.jpg?oh=e0fa6b21e3ec3b62cf734256e7ec8427&oe=54F8F81D


Who is that big hitter with his smaller punting chum Harry?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 12, 2014, 03:32:49 PM
Sybarite in the 3-15, dont think it enjoyed brush and it seemed to hit a flat spot but made decent progress late on. Looked decent before that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 12, 2014, 03:40:55 PM
Sybarite in the 3-15, dont think it enjoyed brush and it seemed to hit a flat spot but made decent progress late on. Looked decent before that.

I backed it LTO, too, and backed it last night.

GL us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 12, 2014, 03:57:35 PM
Sybarite in the 3-15, dont think it enjoyed brush and it seemed to hit a flat spot but made decent progress late on. Looked decent before that.

I backed it LTO, too, and backed it last night.

GL us!

do they do races over 3m 2f for hurdles races lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on December 12, 2014, 03:58:31 PM
Deckie Johnson though! Gets worse and worse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 12, 2014, 03:59:33 PM
Deckie Johnson though! Gets worse and worse.

benbane heads owners love him


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 12, 2014, 04:00:28 PM
Sybarite in the 3-15, dont think it enjoyed brush and it seemed to hit a flat spot but made decent progress late on. Looked decent before that.

I backed it LTO, too, and backed it last night.

GL us!

do they do races over 3m 2f for hurdles races lol

Weird, weird run.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 12, 2014, 04:01:15 PM
Wayne Hutchinson is mustard, though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 12, 2014, 04:05:03 PM
Good to have the maestro Wayneo back! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 12, 2014, 04:35:19 PM
Deckie Johnson though! Gets worse and worse.


Normally not a fan, but think he has been riding superbly this year.

Just cant outride the second best jockey in UK.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 12, 2014, 05:12:02 PM
Deckie Johnson though! Gets worse and worse.


Normally not a fan, but think he has been riding superbly this year.

Just cant outride the second best jockey in UK.

behind thornton?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 12, 2014, 05:13:33 PM
Deckie Johnson though! Gets worse and worse.


Normally not a fan, but think he has been riding superbly this year.

Just cant outride the second best jockey in UK.

behind thornton?


LOL.

Choc or Andrew?!!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 12, 2014, 05:28:12 PM
Deckie Johnson though! Gets worse and worse.


Normally not a fan, but think he has been riding superbly this year.

Just cant outride the second best jockey in UK.

behind thornton?


LOL.

Choc or Andrew?!!!!

does it matter lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 13, 2014, 09:30:38 AM
A big day ahead for the Adz ante post book, with Hargam and Champagne West both making appearances and Im looking for both to enhance Festival prospects.

A couple of us here have Barrakilla at 20-1 in the big one, but not sure if ground gone against us.

ROR looks a price back over a more suitable distance and I hope this is another step on the way to a World Hurdle tilt.

Would suggest a couple of very speculative quid on Classical Diva on the sand. Recently taken over by Mr Apples, it ran a promising first time out race and then flopped earlier this week, but its turned out again quickly with Hayley on, and I can see this being a bit of a gamble, based on Apples m/o. I may be a race too early but at 11s/10s, worth pointing him out.

Enjoy. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 13, 2014, 09:48:36 AM
A big day ahead for the Adz ante post book, with Hargam and Champagne West both making appearances and Im looking for both to enhance Festival prospects.

A couple of us here have Barrakilla at 20-1 in the big one, but not sure if ground gone against us.

ROR looks a price back over a more suitable distance and I hope this is another step on the way to a World Hurdle tilt.

Would suggest a couple of very speculative quid on Classical Diva on the sand. Recently taken over by Mr Apples, it ran a promising first time out race and then flopped earlier this week, but its turned out again quickly with Hayley on, and I can see this being a bit of a gamble, based on Apples m/o. I may be a race too early but at 11s/10s, worth pointing him out.

Enjoy. GL

gl

you not rate stars over the sea?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 13, 2014, 10:21:36 AM
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbWADdGenRo Calum Madell likes Albert Dolivate in the first at Lingfield - being backed this morning currently 5/2

Also likes ROR, No Buts and Splash Of Ginge ( gone for Ericht and Attaglance myself ) and Bertimont as a possible e/w angle in 3.10 Chelt - suggest worth checking place price on Betfair to see what value is available


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 13, 2014, 10:24:17 AM
A big day ahead for the Adz ante post book, with Hargam and Champagne West both making appearances and Im looking for both to enhance Festival prospects.

A couple of us here have Barrakilla at 20-1 in the big one, but not sure if ground gone against us.

ROR looks a price back over a more suitable distance and I hope this is another step on the way to a World Hurdle tilt.

Would suggest a couple of very speculative quid on Classical Diva on the sand. Recently taken over by Mr Apples, it ran a promising first time out race and then flopped earlier this week, but its turned out again quickly with Hayley on, and I can see this being a bit of a gamble, based on Apples m/o. I may be a race too early but at 11s/10s, worth pointing him out.

Enjoy. GL

gl

you not rate stars over the sea?


Yes. But after years of following Brooky stuff blind due to massive over hype and overwhelming over confidence, I am finally trying to be more objective and was very taken with Hargem debut.
Champagne West is both a Brooky fancy and I concur!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 13, 2014, 10:43:40 AM
A big day ahead for the Adz ante post book, with Hargam and Champagne West both making appearances and Im looking for both to enhance Festival prospects.

A couple of us here have Barrakilla at 20-1 in the big one, but not sure if ground gone against us.

ROR looks a price back over a more suitable distance and I hope this is another step on the way to a World Hurdle tilt.

Would suggest a couple of very speculative quid on Classical Diva on the sand. Recently taken over by Mr Apples, it ran a promising first time out race and then flopped earlier this week, but its turned out again quickly with Hayley on, and I can see this being a bit of a gamble, based on Apples m/o. I may be a race too early but at 11s/10s, worth pointing him out.

Enjoy. GL

gl

you not rate stars over the sea?


Yes. But after years of following Brooky stuff blind due to massive over hype and overwhelming over confidence, I am finally trying to be more objective and was very taken with Hargem debut.
Champagne West is both a Brooky fancy and I concur!

Now you tell me after I laid CW @ evs last night.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 13, 2014, 12:05:49 PM
I've had a small win bet on Harouet 12.20 Ling Has gone well fresh in past and Sean Bowen's claim should assist - thought 10-1 was reasonable


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 13, 2014, 01:03:49 PM
A big day ahead for the Adz ante post book, with Hargam and Champagne West both making appearances and Im looking for both to enhance Festival prospects.

A couple of us here have Barrakilla at 20-1 in the big one, but not sure if ground gone against us.

ROR looks a price back over a more suitable distance and I hope this is another step on the way to a World Hurdle tilt.

Would suggest a couple of very speculative quid on Classical Diva on the sand. Recently taken over by Mr Apples, it ran a promising first time out race and then flopped earlier this week, but its turned out again quickly with Hayley on, and I can see this being a bit of a gamble, based on Apples m/o. I may be a race too early but at 11s/10s, worth pointing him out.

Enjoy. GL

gl

you not rate stars over the sea?


Yes. But after years of following Brooky stuff blind due to massive over hype and overwhelming over confidence, I am finally trying to be more objective and was very taken with Hargem debut.
Champagne West is both a Brooky fancy and I concur!


Quite pleased with that.

I think Hargam will do better in a bigger field, with something to tow him along and sit quietly in amongst horses.

Pleased I managed to ignore Brooky hype too!  ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 13, 2014, 01:18:26 PM
A big day ahead for the Adz ante post book, with Hargam and Champagne West both making appearances and Im looking for both to enhance Festival prospects.

A couple of us here have Barrakilla at 20-1 in the big one, but not sure if ground gone against us.

ROR looks a price back over a more suitable distance and I hope this is another step on the way to a World Hurdle tilt.

Would suggest a couple of very speculative quid on Classical Diva on the sand. Recently taken over by Mr Apples, it ran a promising first time out race and then flopped earlier this week, but its turned out again quickly with Hayley on, and I can see this being a bit of a gamble, based on Apples m/o. I may be a race too early but at 11s/10s, worth pointing him out.

Enjoy. GL

gl

you not rate stars over the sea?


Yes. But after years of following Brooky stuff blind due to massive over hype and overwhelming over confidence, I am finally trying to be more objective and was very taken with Hargem debut.
Champagne West is both a Brooky fancy and I concur!


Quite pleased with that.

I think Hargam will do better in a bigger field, with something to tow him along and sit quietly in amongst horses.

Pleased I managed to ignore Brooky hype too!  ;)

Thought he was lucky the other one floored the last and gave him weight. Dont think he improved on first outing. L'aigle royals run may shed a bit more light.

4/1 for a derby trial horse whos won his first two races for mr brooks is like 25/1 for anyone else lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 13, 2014, 01:29:25 PM
12-50 at cheltenham, forgettable, hopefully for sam aswell


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 13, 2014, 01:41:21 PM
All about opinions Mr Test. Mine have served me pretty well over the years, and I shall stick by em. But thanks.  ;D

Thought he pulled too hard to start with and fluffed first two. Making up the 5/6 length gap under his own steam, worried me after pulling hard, but he did it well. Jumped beautifully last 4/5. A defo improvement in my eyes. Hendo said ground was lot stickier than it looks, and he will be better on quicker.


CW, also satisfactory. Showed speed but pretty sure RSA will be the target, as Roger hosts his big day on the Weds each year, and loves to have runners then(even if its the wrong race...).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on December 13, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
Attaglance, please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 13, 2014, 02:38:37 PM
A big day ahead for the Adz ante post book, with Hargam and Champagne West both making appearances and Im looking for both to enhance Festival prospects.

A couple of us here have Barrakilla at 20-1 in the big one, but not sure if ground gone against us.


ROR looks a price back over a more suitable distance and I hope this is another step on the way to a World Hurdle tilt.

Would suggest a couple of very speculative quid on Classical Diva on the sand. Recently taken over by Mr Apples, it ran a promising first time out race and then flopped earlier this week, but its turned out again quickly with Hayley on, and I can see this being a bit of a gamble, based on Apples m/o. I may be a race too early but at 11s/10s, worth pointing him out.

Enjoy. GL


So much right, but no match for winner. Painful but decent placed effort helps


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 13, 2014, 03:50:36 PM
Unlucky mate, been a shit day so far...

The only chuckle has been via Mad Moose :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on December 13, 2014, 04:17:03 PM
Must imagine bookmakers are cheering Rock On Ruby to get beat here.

Every man and his dog will have done a Lucky 31:

Hargam, Champagne West, Blaklion, The New One and ROR.

Not quite Dettori day, but still will take the months profits


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on December 13, 2014, 04:21:51 PM
A big day ahead for the Adz ante post book, with Hargam and Champagne West both making appearances and Im looking for both to enhance Festival prospects.

A couple of us here have Barrakilla at 20-1 in the big one, but not sure if ground gone against us.

ROR looks a price back over a more suitable distance and I hope this is another step on the way to a World Hurdle tilt.

Would suggest a couple of very speculative quid on Classical Diva on the sand. Recently taken over by Mr Apples, it ran a promising first time out race and then flopped earlier this week, but its turned out again quickly with Hayley on, and I can see this being a bit of a gamble, based on Apples m/o. I may be a race too early but at 11s/10s, worth pointing him out.

Enjoy. GL

The only way Rock On Ruby stays 3 miles is in a horsebox.

They should dodge the festival and be fresh for Aintree.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 13, 2014, 04:26:05 PM
A big day ahead for the Adz ante post book, with Hargam and Champagne West both making appearances and Im looking for both to enhance Festival prospects.

A couple of us here have Barrakilla at 20-1 in the big one, but not sure if ground gone against us.

ROR looks a price back over a more suitable distance and I hope this is another step on the way to a World Hurdle tilt.

Would suggest a couple of very speculative quid on Classical Diva on the sand. Recently taken over by Mr Apples, it ran a promising first time out race and then flopped earlier this week, but its turned out again quickly with Hayley on, and I can see this being a bit of a gamble, based on Apples m/o. I may be a race too early but at 11s/10s, worth pointing him out.

Enjoy. GL

The only way Rock On Ruby stays 3 miles is in a horsebox.

They should dodge the festival and be fresh for Aintree.


LOL. I refer my learned colleague to my previous answer. On ground he didn't like and in front on his own for a long time, looked to be dossing to me. Get 3m no probs.

Are people really stupid enough to waste money doing Lucky 31s on predominately sub 2-1 shots??!! Never understood that. Trebles and upwards, should be the min starting point for that bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on December 13, 2014, 06:07:27 PM
A big day ahead for the Adz ante post book, with Hargam and Champagne West both making appearances and Im looking for both to enhance Festival prospects.

A couple of us here have Barrakilla at 20-1 in the big one, but not sure if ground gone against us.

ROR looks a price back over a more suitable distance and I hope this is another step on the way to a World Hurdle tilt.

Would suggest a couple of very speculative quid on Classical Diva on the sand. Recently taken over by Mr Apples, it ran a promising first time out race and then flopped earlier this week, but its turned out again quickly with Hayley on, and I can see this being a bit of a gamble, based on Apples m/o. I may be a race too early but at 11s/10s, worth pointing him out.

Enjoy. GL

The only way Rock On Ruby stays 3 miles is in a horsebox.

They should dodge the festival and be fresh for Aintree.


LOL. I refer my learned colleague to my previous answer. On ground he didn't like and in front on his own for a long time, looked to be dossing to me. Get 3m no probs.

Are people really stupid enough to waste money doing Lucky 31s on predominately sub 2-1 shots??!! Never understood that. Trebles and upwards, should be the min starting point for that bet.

Not completely stupid, favourites have a better record than any tipster. And Lucky 15s/31s have decent bonuses.

I reckon those 5 winning will take 7 figures out of the bookmakers satchels.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mickyp on December 13, 2014, 11:10:01 PM
Think there's worse 25/1 shots than rock on ruby for the world hurdle , doubts about the fav, Annie power likely to go for the mares race. Loves Cheltenham, lots in his favour imo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 14, 2014, 10:12:17 AM
A big day ahead for the Adz ante post book, with Hargam and Champagne West both making appearances and Im looking for both to enhance Festival prospects.

A couple of us here have Barrakilla at 20-1 in the big one, but not sure if ground gone against us.

ROR looks a price back over a more suitable distance and I hope this is another step on the way to a World Hurdle tilt.

Would suggest a couple of very speculative quid on Classical Diva on the sand. Recently taken over by Mr Apples, it ran a promising first time out race and then flopped earlier this week, but its turned out again quickly with Hayley on, and I can see this being a bit of a gamble, based on Apples m/o. I may be a race too early but at 11s/10s, worth pointing him out.

Enjoy. GL

The only way Rock On Ruby stays 3 miles is in a horsebox.

They should dodge the festival and be fresh for Aintree.


LOL. I refer my learned colleague to my previous answer. On ground he didn't like and in front on his own for a long time, looked to be dossing to me. Get 3m no probs.

Are people really stupid enough to waste money doing Lucky 31s on predominately sub 2-1 shots??!! Never understood that. Trebles and upwards, should be the min starting point for that bet.

Not completely stupid, favourites have a better record than any tipster. And Lucky 15s/31s have decent bonuses.

I reckon those 5 winning will take 7 figures out of the bookmakers satchels.

Fair point.

Would be interested to see how, for instance a £1 Lucky 15 Total bet spread evenly as Trebles/Fours and Acca weighed up for total payout purposes. ie £31 on each. Include bonuses etc.

One for Doobs, methinks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 14, 2014, 10:34:50 AM
A big day ahead for the Adz ante post book, with Hargam and Champagne West both making appearances and Im looking for both to enhance Festival prospects.

A couple of us here have Barrakilla at 20-1 in the big one, but not sure if ground gone against us.

ROR looks a price back over a more suitable distance and I hope this is another step on the way to a World Hurdle tilt.

Would suggest a couple of very speculative quid on Classical Diva on the sand. Recently taken over by Mr Apples, it ran a promising first time out race and then flopped earlier this week, but its turned out again quickly with Hayley on, and I can see this being a bit of a gamble, based on Apples m/o. I may be a race too early but at 11s/10s, worth pointing him out.

Enjoy. GL

The only way Rock On Ruby stays 3 miles is in a horsebox.

They should dodge the festival and be fresh for Aintree.


LOL. I refer my learned colleague to my previous answer. On ground he didn't like and in front on his own for a long time, looked to be dossing to me. Get 3m no probs.

Are people really stupid enough to waste money doing Lucky 31s on predominately sub 2-1 shots??!! Never understood that. Trebles and upwards, should be the min starting point for that bet.

Not completely stupid, favourites have a better record than any tipster. And Lucky 15s/31s have decent bonuses.

I reckon those 5 winning will take 7 figures out of the bookmakers satchels.

Fair point.

Would be interested to see how, for instance a £1 Lucky 15 Total bet spread evenly as Trebles/Fours and Acca weighed up for total payout purposes. ie £31 on each. Include bonuses etc.

One for Doobs, methinks.

Slightly off-topic, but the bookies took a pasting on horse racing yesterday afternoon, with 72% of races won by 1st or 2nd Fav, & 42% won by the Fav. And then got it all back in the evening, when results went the other way, just one winning favourite. The great mass of punters, "Joe Public", loves betting shorties.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on December 14, 2014, 11:09:19 AM
The Joes I know love a shorty but they love a 'worthwhile' payout even more so 'have' to put them in accas. Football ones, I almost never hear them talking horses, and where the layers bet to 2% but by the time they've had their eightfold they're betting to 256%. [Doobs please check, ed.]


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 14, 2014, 12:09:26 PM
Going to have 1pt win on Billy Cuckoo @ 6-1 looks a tricky customer but shown improved if modest form latest and appears will be better suited going left handed. (Definitely not one to go mad on)  Better available on exch if you can, and PP money back faller on this race


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 14, 2014, 12:48:52 PM
very well done if you found King Rofl   form figures 5247-FR

Other bets today:
Call The Detective Southwell 13:45   1pt ew 11/2
Debt To Society Southwell 12:35 1 pt win 5/2
Ravished Navan 15:05 1pt e/w 13/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 14, 2014, 12:51:28 PM
Like master of the hall in the 2.25 carlisle, won out of the handicap LTO so penalty is less


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 14, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
Spencer changed his mind over retiring, attention whore


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on December 14, 2014, 08:21:08 PM
very well done if you found King Rofl   form figures 5247-FR

Other bets today:
Call The Detective Southwell 13:45   1pt ew 11/2
Debt To Society Southwell 12:35 1 pt win 5/2
Ravished Navan 15:05 1pt e/w 13/2

I've got a share in King Rolfe.

Been a nightmare recently, he was a point to point winner in Ireland beating Times Remembered who has a decent record.

Long story, but after winning nicely at Stratford last season he fell apart with all sorts of problems and had a breathing operation to correct a soft palate problem which was thought to be causing him to run out of steam three quarters into races.

This season has been horrendous until today. He fell at the first fence two races ago, didn't start last time (just unlucky) and the horse box broke down on way to Bangor for his last proposed run so he was withdrawn.

He's got potential, by kings theatre and wasn't cheap so fingers crossed he's turned a corner.

Had a decent bet on him today so nice to see a return after the problems.

I should add that Tim Vaughan trains him and to put it bluntly I'm not a fan and would move the horse if it were just my choice but fair dos today, he produced for once.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 14, 2014, 08:38:06 PM
Nice one Rick.
 


Next time a nudge, after you got on wouldn't go amiss though, please Sir!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on December 14, 2014, 09:02:29 PM
Nice one Rick.
 


Next time a nudge, after you got on wouldn't go amiss though, please Sir!!

Thanks Adz.

Will do :-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 14, 2014, 10:05:17 PM
That puts a different perspective on it Rick, thank you. Very much hope he has put his troubles behind him, will follow with interest.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 14, 2014, 10:08:55 PM
Was 10s a week ago, but expect Briar Hill to go off a lot shorter than the 15/2 with PP on Saturday in the Long Walk.

Interestingly, some crap covering bets at SP have seen my allowed bet level go up with them. Never seen it before and not for much, but did get whole £5.22 on.

Its gonna be shorter, so someone here might as well get some if they can.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 14, 2014, 10:51:25 PM
Spencer changed his mind over retiring, attention whore


A sad day indeed! ::) :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on December 14, 2014, 11:12:16 PM
very well done if you found King Rofl   form figures 5247-FR

Other bets today:
Call The Detective Southwell 13:45   1pt ew 11/2
Debt To Society Southwell 12:35 1 pt win 5/2
Ravished Navan 15:05 1pt e/w 13/2

I've got a share in King Rolfe.

Been a nightmare recently, he was a point to point winner in Ireland beating Times Remembered who has a decent record.

Long story, but after winning nicely at Stratford last season he fell apart with all sorts of problems and had a breathing operation to correct a soft palate problem which was thought to be causing him to run out of steam three quarters into races.

This season has been horrendous until today. He fell at the first fence two races ago, didn't start last time (just unlucky) and the horse box broke down on way to Bangor for his last proposed run so he was withdrawn.

He's got potential, by kings theatre and wasn't cheap so fingers crossed he's turned a corner.

Had a decent bet on him today so nice to see a return after the problems.

I should add that Tim Vaughan trains him and to put it bluntly I'm not a fan and would move the horse if it were just my choice but fair dos today, he produced for once.

good stuff Rick.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 15, 2014, 04:34:00 PM
Was 10s a week ago, but expect Briar Hill to go off a lot shorter than the 15/2 with PP on Saturday in the Long Walk.

Interestingly, some crap covering bets at SP have seen my allowed bet level go up with them. Never seen it before and not for much, but did get whole £5.22 on.

Its gonna be shorter, so someone here might as well get some if they can.

now not in market? Uninspiring field again


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 15, 2014, 04:35:51 PM
Was 10s a week ago, but expect Briar Hill to go off a lot shorter than the 15/2 with PP on Saturday in the Long Walk.

Interestingly, some crap covering bets at SP have seen my allowed bet level go up with them. Never seen it before and not for much, but did get whole £5.22 on.

Its gonna be shorter, so someone here might as well get some if they can.

now not in market? Uninspiring field again




Lol. Marv.

Thank fook it was Paddy!!!

Comes in handy being restricted to peanuts at times!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 15, 2014, 04:40:36 PM
Was 10s a week ago, but expect Briar Hill to go off a lot shorter than the 15/2 with PP on Saturday in the Long Walk.

Interestingly, some crap covering bets at SP have seen my allowed bet level go up with them. Never seen it before and not for much, but did get whole £5.22 on.

Its gonna be shorter, so someone here might as well get some if they can.

now not in market? Uninspiring field again




Lol. Marv.

Thank fook it was Paddy!!!

Comes in handy being restricted to peanuts at times!!!

Rounds off the weekend nicely... First time I've managed to get more than a score on with Paddys in months :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 15, 2014, 04:45:26 PM
looks terribly dodgy that like, only ones with market up and a ridiculous price for a horse that surely goes off close to fav, and PP suddenly decide to take a bet lol.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 15, 2014, 04:48:10 PM
looks terribly dodgy that like, only ones with market up and a ridiculous price for a horse that surely goes off close to fav, and PP suddenly decide to take a bet lol.

Was reading about Paddy, and Mullins horses the other day. Theory was, they have some sort of in to the yard, as they're often best price in some antepost markets, but really dodge them in others.

Not sure I buy that much into it, and most likely just guesswork on what they think they're being targeted at. Would think that only Mullins and Walsh know where they're going, until the last minute.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 15, 2014, 05:04:03 PM
looks terribly dodgy that like, only ones with market up and a ridiculous price for a horse that surely goes off close to fav, and PP suddenly decide to take a bet lol.

Was reading about Paddy, and Mullins horses the other day. Theory was, they have some sort of in to the yard, as they're often best price in some antepost markets, but really dodge them in others.

Not sure I buy that much into it, and most likely just guesswork on what they think they're being targeted at. Would think that only Mullins and Walsh know where they're going, until the last minute.

Dont really do much AP stuff so dont really look into the making of a book but a few things dont sit well there. Having said that I dont really see much of a business in robbing customers who dont even get a run for their money.

Its christmas, odds on a refund?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 15, 2014, 05:08:52 PM
looks terribly dodgy that like, only ones with market up and a ridiculous price for a horse that surely goes off close to fav, and PP suddenly decide to take a bet lol.

Was reading about Paddy, and Mullins horses the other day. Theory was, they have some sort of in to the yard, as they're often best price in some antepost markets, but really dodge them in others.

Not sure I buy that much into it, and most likely just guesswork on what they think they're being targeted at. Would think that only Mullins and Walsh know where they're going, until the last minute.

Dont really do much AP stuff so dont really look into the making of a book but a few things dont sit well there. Having said that I dont really see much of a business in robbing customers who dont even get a run for their money.

Its christmas, odds on a refund?

I don't bet big, so do a fair bit, and was going to lay it off for a freeroll, so probably fair punishment...

As for a refund, I'd say they're bigger than the 15/2 that Briar Hill was ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 15, 2014, 05:13:22 PM
Annoying and apols Marky.

I had heard that Beat That was never going to run, and from there it looked a bit of a dual with Zarkander/Medinas.

He was sure not going to be 15/2.

Anyway. Thems the rubs with the Ante Post market.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 15, 2014, 05:35:23 PM
Annoying and apols Marky.

I had heard that Beat That was never going to run, and from there it looked a bit of a dual with Zarkander/Medinas.

He was sure not going to be 15/2.

Anyway. Thems the rubs with the Ante Post market.

No need to apologise mate, you know I love getting on early doors,  and I'm a long way from behind backing your AP stuff.

Him or RoR will get me it back in the World Hurdle, anyway!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 16, 2014, 10:02:06 AM
I don't like Mondays !  What a bloodbath yesterday was ! Very happy I didn't post anything here, everything fell, pulled up or tailed off last.  Pretty sure I'ld be well ahead if I never had a bet on a Monday ever again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 16, 2014, 10:10:35 AM
Let's hope for better luck today, will have 1pt e/w Secret Millionaire 3.20 Kempton  12-1 Boyles/Sportingbet  Thought this was worth a small bet on a well drawn C&D winner who produced a decent speed figure lto, albeit 3 months ago so have to take wellbeing on trust.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 16, 2014, 10:23:26 AM
I don't like Mondays !  What a bloodbath yesterday was ! Very happy I didn't post anything here, everything fell, pulled up or tailed off last.  Pretty sure I'ld be well ahead if I never had a bet on a Monday ever again.


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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2014, 12:38:03 AM
Value At Risk looks a very interesting runner at Newbury

Joined Dan Skelton from the pharmicist after 5 very promising bumper runs, culminating in a close up 3rd at Punchestown to Shaneshill and Silver Concorde.

No idea if it's fit or can jump a hurdle, but if it can, 5/4 is an absolute gift.

Laying 4/1 Jack Frost might be even better. If that can give 7lbs to VAR and beat it, might as well give up looking at the form book.

Punchestown, Fairyhouse and Cheltenham form v Fakenham and Ludlow form. Hmmmm.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 17, 2014, 12:38:56 PM
A bit late, and the price has gone... ;ashamed;, but Neck or Nothing has had a breathing op over the summer(pretty sure this info not in public domain). First time out could be the time to catch him, but he is very well thought of. I hope it worked!

First race at Ludlow


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 17, 2014, 12:55:57 PM
Looks like another bundle of cash down the drain!

Was certainly a race full of headcases.

If that winner learns how to start, he could be useful.

Apols if you followed me in!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 17, 2014, 02:00:30 PM
Looks like another bundle of cash down the drain!

Was certainly a race full of headcases.

If that winner learns how to start, he could be useful.

Apols if you followed me in!


Speaking of headcases was looking forward to seeing oyster shell to get a line on just how good Vivaccio is for the weekend, did a black beauty impression at the start.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 17, 2014, 02:20:26 PM
Looks like another bundle of cash down the drain!

Was certainly a race full of headcases.

If that winner learns how to start, he could be useful.

Apols if you followed me in!


Speaking of headcases was looking forward to seeing oyster shell to get a line on just how good Vivaccio is for the weekend, did a black beauty impression at the start.


Looked to me like the guy at the start with the bullwhip was actually hitting the Oyster. Not good scenes.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 17, 2014, 02:38:57 PM
Looks like another bundle of cash down the drain!

Was certainly a race full of headcases.

If that winner learns how to start, he could be useful.

Apols if you followed me in!


Speaking of headcases was looking forward to seeing oyster shell to get a line on just how good Vivaccio is for the weekend, did a black beauty impression at the start.


Looked to me like the guy at the start with the bullwhip was actually hitting the Oyster. Not good scenes.

I think its in the interests of racing not to have that guy there. If a horse needs to be threatened to run then it doesnt want too. Stuff like that and overly aggressive attempts to get horses into the stalls sheds the game in a bad light and shows HR as the opposite to what it is, horses enjoy running, they are naturally competitive. Many are amazingly gutsy and intelligent. My favourite thing about HR is watching an animal give absolutely everything, the ones that dont want to race should be banned faster.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 17, 2014, 02:52:12 PM
Any thoughts on this next race at Linfield.  Is there a chance to play a dirty e/w here with there being an odds on fav and 8 runners? 

I thought there was quite a lot to like about Moovoy. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 17, 2014, 02:57:32 PM
Value At Risk looks a very interesting runner at Newbury

Joined Dan Skelton from the pharmicist after 5 very promising bumper runs, culminating in a close up 3rd at Punchestown to Shaneshill and Silver Concorde.

No idea if it's fit or can jump a hurdle, but if it can, 5/4 is an absolute gift.

Laying 4/1 Jack Frost might be even better. If that can give 7lbs to VAR and beat it, might as well give up looking at the form book.

Punchestown, Fairyhouse and Cheltenham form v Fakenham and Ludlow form. Hmmmm.


The seemingly generous 2.6 on betty has tempted me on board.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 17, 2014, 03:02:38 PM
Any thoughts on this next race at Linfield.  Is there a chance to play a dirty e/w here with there being an odds on fav and 8 runners?  

I thought there was quite a lot to like about Moovoy.  

took echo brava


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 17, 2014, 03:07:52 PM
Any thoughts on this next race at Linfield.  Is there a chance to play a dirty e/w here with there being an odds on fav and 8 runners?  

I thought there was quite a lot to like about Moovoy.  

n1



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 17, 2014, 03:20:08 PM
Any thoughts on this next race at Linfield.  Is there a chance to play a dirty e/w here with there being an odds on fav and 8 runners?  

I thought there was quite a lot to like about Moovoy.  

n1



I'll give it another opportunity as well, wouldn't mind seeing it in blinkers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 17, 2014, 03:21:21 PM
Nice one Keith.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 17, 2014, 03:21:31 PM
Just scraped home :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 17, 2014, 03:21:42 PM
Value At Risk looks a very interesting runner at Newbury

Joined Dan Skelton from the pharmicist after 5 very promising bumper runs, culminating in a close up 3rd at Punchestown to Shaneshill and Silver Concorde.

No idea if it's fit or can jump a hurdle, but if it can, 5/4 is an absolute gift.

Laying 4/1 Jack Frost might be even better. If that can give 7lbs to VAR and beat it, might as well give up looking at the form book.

Punchestown, Fairyhouse and Cheltenham form v Fakenham and Ludlow form. Hmmmm.


lovely prospect, gc


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 17, 2014, 03:22:11 PM
Perfect read Mr H. WP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on December 17, 2014, 03:24:58 PM
The only danger was Harry Skelton getting neck ache from looking around so much!

His action suggests he'll be even more useful on better ground.

An outsider for the Festival maybe?



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on December 17, 2014, 03:25:40 PM
Thank you Camel.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 17, 2014, 03:26:04 PM
The only danger was Harry Skelton getting neck ache from looking around so much!

His action suggests he'll be even more useful on better ground.

An outsider for the Festival maybe?



Only bad run was on good ground at chelts

Commentary seem to think its pretty heavy there today so maybe more true GTS ground would suit.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 17, 2014, 03:28:48 PM
Good stuff, well done all that were on!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on December 17, 2014, 03:44:11 PM
22L! Cheers Keith. (Wasn't able to watch but 41 seconds slower than standard suggests dismal ground).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on December 17, 2014, 03:45:24 PM
Thanks very Much Camel, 2 in a row from you. Fantastic stuff!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on December 17, 2014, 04:13:35 PM
Great read Keith, hope you got the lot.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 17, 2014, 04:15:20 PM
how the hell does celestial bay go off 8/1 in the last at lingfield, when planetoid franked the form all over early on the card.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 17, 2014, 11:05:23 PM
There was a feature on RUK - Timeform Horses To Follow In Dubai which caught my interest because Calum Madell, who I've mentioned previously, helped to compile it (working for Timeform now).

Anyway the horses were: Teletext, Darwin, The Taj, Hakeem, High On Life, Asmar, Sloane Avenue, Le Benardin, Sir Fever and Tannaaf in case anyone wants to put them in their tracker.
The bolded run tomorrow at Meydan.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 17, 2014, 11:57:30 PM
Will be having 2pt win Trickaway 2.50 Exteter 7/2 B365


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 03:17:59 PM
Does Derek Thompson watch the same race as the rest of us?  Is there a worse commentator in Racing. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 03:26:22 PM
Will be having 2pt win Trickaway 2.50 Exteter 7/2 B365

Cheers Simon.  Had a small bet, would have bet more if Dicky wasn't on.  I have him in my not to be trusted list.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 18, 2014, 03:36:38 PM
Does Derek Thompson watch the same race as the rest of us?  Is there a worse commentator in Racing. 


No!

A voice made for the days when you rang phone lines for commentary.

Even when a horse is six clear and going further away he manages to build in the tones of a tight finish.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 18, 2014, 04:17:28 PM
6.15 Kemp Showtime Blues 0.5pt e/w 11-1  BV Lads WHill  pretty dirty e/w shape to race and sire has 21% strike rate on all weather sprints. Trainer has 1 win and 3 places from last 11 a/w runs.  worth a tiny speculative punt?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 05:09:23 PM
Any thoughts on one of this threads heroes Hector Crouch in the next race at Kempton. 

Tissue price was 10/1, best price I seen earlier was 7/2 when I looked at the race but now around 2/1 mark and shorter in places. 

Strange move imo. 

I was planning on betting Barwah smallish e/w just think the tongue tie might bring about some improvement in  a pretty weak race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 05:13:23 PM
And now drifting like a barge thing! 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 18, 2014, 05:15:14 PM
had missed this, seems plenty short to me


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on December 18, 2014, 05:35:08 PM
Will be having 2pt win Trickaway 2.50 Exteter 7/2 B365

well done bud


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nuros on December 18, 2014, 06:55:19 PM
Thanks and vwp Simon, Trickaway and showtime blues boom!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 18, 2014, 06:59:17 PM
Missed the first one but had a tickle on the Showtime.

Magic stuff Simon.

Keep it up Sir! ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 18, 2014, 07:23:41 PM
Sick.  Was on the phone to Sky and missed the last one.  Well played buddy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 18, 2014, 07:49:48 PM
Does Derek Thompson watch the same race as the rest of us?  Is there a worse commentator in Racing.  

Its clear what hes backed in the race, I backed one earlier and he was congratulating the piece of c*** for its run it second when its been held 20lb below its mark. I think he commentates based on what hes bet.

Varsovian at 11/2 in the last it kempton seems decent, 1/4 maybe better incase theres an improved/3lb is enough to get it beat.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: icles test on December 18, 2014, 07:55:29 PM
6.15 Kemp Showtime Blues 0.5pt e/w 11-1  BV Lads WHill  pretty dirty e/w shape to race and sire has 21% strike rate on all weather sprints. Trainer has 1 win and 3 places from last 11 a/w runs.  worth a tiny speculative punt?

bet more points bro, n1

decent tip earlier aswell


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 19, 2014, 05:20:21 PM
I was looking at the Wolverhampton card earlier today and thought the 4:50 had the shape of a dirty e/w look about it, conditions obviously not ideal but although we have 11 runners realistically I thought 4 had absolutely no chance of getting close.  I thought the fav was going to be a little short.  I'd have backed it @ 11/8 but when I got round to looking at the race in any depth it was 4/7.  Trading just over Evns on machine.   I thought the 2nd fav might have difficulty getting a position early from the 10 box.   JO's normally improve for the run and was friendless on the machine for a spell. 

I ended up with 2:  Souk al Thab and Sir Keltic Blue - hardly original picks in this sort of race, but opted for the latter, as my main e/w bet as I like Ellison as a trainer and I like the jockey also.  Negatives are I'm not keen on the draw, I think this trip might be a bit sharp but its drifted a bit from when I backed it.   On the otherhand I had a smaller bet on Souk al Thab but my main negative with this one was it might just plod along as it will get a handicap mark after tonight. 

I can lay off my win part of the bet on the Machine and the fav is now a backable price what should be my best way of doing this should I lay off the win?  Just back the fav win only or let the bets ride.  Obvs a bit late for this race now but for future what you guys reckon?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 19, 2014, 05:24:20 PM
Sure read that race well.  That wasn't one of the 4 I thought had no chance but would have been my 5th pick. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 20, 2014, 11:21:26 AM
Just posting as a public service (hopefully) Calum Madell tweeted he likes Kilcooley in 2.40 Haydock and Pine Creek in the Ladbroke (PC also the pick of Adzy and Linfoot)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 20, 2014, 12:13:50 PM
12.45 Ascot   1pt e/w   Absolute Bygones  16-1  Wizards Bridge and Rascal - both 8-1 a little more reasoning on TFT


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 21, 2014, 11:12:10 AM
Just posting as a public service (hopefully) Calum Madell tweeted he likes Kilcooley in 2.40 Haydock and Pine Creek in the Ladbroke (PC also the pick of Adzy and Linfoot)

Kilcooley won 11/2
Pine Creek 2nd  10/1  - Great call by Adz, advised on TFT @ 16-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 24, 2014, 12:02:41 PM
I quite like the idea of Wishfull Thinking running a big race in the King George.

It's really not that far away on official ratings, only 7lbs below top-rated Silviniaco Conti, and is in the form of it's life this season since it had a wind operation in the summer. I know it's eleven years old but so was Edredon Bleu who had a similar profile.

I think 25/1 with 1/4 odds 1-2-3 is tempting enough.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 24, 2014, 12:11:59 PM
I quite like the idea of Wishfull Thinking running a big race in the King George.

It's really not that far away on official ratings, only 7lbs below top-rated Silviniaco Conti, and is in the form of it's life this season since it had a wind operation in the summer. I know it's eleven years old but so was Edredon Bleu who had a similar profile.

I think 25/1 with 1/4 odds 1-2-3 is tempting enough.


Honestly couldn't have him Ralph.

The one time he tried 3m at Aintree(an easy 3m) he got put in his place by Unioniste, who wouldnt see which way this lot went. The ratings may be similar, but I couldnt mention him in the same breath as Edradon Bleu....Sacre Bleu!

Whilst he has improved for the wind op, he has his highest rating at 11. If he places in this, we have a very poor bunch of 3m chasers at the top table.

Watch him scoot up and do the Gold Cup double! GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on December 24, 2014, 09:06:27 PM
I quite like the idea of Wishfull Thinking running a big race in the King George.

It's really not that far away on official ratings, only 7lbs below top-rated Silviniaco Conti, and is in the form of it's life this season since it had a wind operation in the summer. I know it's eleven years old but so was Edredon Bleu who had a similar profile.

I think 25/1 with 1/4 odds 1-2-3 is tempting enough.


Honestly couldn't have him Ralph.

The one time he tried 3m at Aintree(an easy 3m) he got put in his place by Unioniste, who wouldnt see which way this lot went. The ratings may be similar, but I couldnt mention him in the same breath as Edradon Bleu....Sacre Bleu!

Whilst he has improved for the wind op, he has his highest rating at 11. If he places in this, we have a very poor bunch of 3m chasers at the top table.

Watch him scoot up and do the Gold Cup double! GL

It had a pretty strong novice season, so can see the logic.  Never had any time for Edredon Bleu, thought he was a bad winner.  I was always a Best Mate knocker too.

It is kind of dirty, but Irving 11/2 each way with Hills for the Christmas hurdle is interesting.  I know Faugheen is a beast, but this track suits Irving better than him and until Cheltenham last year, Irving was very much thought of as top rank.

Also got Cue Card each way for the king george, which shouldn't be a surprise. 

Will probably save on Wishful thinking and got the other two mentioned TfT in gold cup doubles.  Got half the field now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 24, 2014, 09:48:09 PM
Roll on Friday!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on December 24, 2014, 10:09:49 PM
Just realised Neil had put up tips for the King George.  5 vs the field then.  Way biggest on Cue Card tho.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 24, 2014, 11:00:22 PM
I backed Dynaste and Captain Chris, a while back, and have done the punty doubles.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 24, 2014, 11:13:31 PM
Going on what we've all backed, it looks like Champagne Fever to win on the bridle :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on December 26, 2014, 11:01:57 AM
Everyone now trying to be Tom Segal and find double figure value even among exposed horses: some firms 7/2 Silviniaco which is a great price, surely?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2014, 03:13:19 PM
Well, that was impressive...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 26, 2014, 03:14:27 PM
Well, that was impressive...


Roll on March

Several were 3s today and March.!

Keep filling up mate!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2014, 03:22:24 PM
Well, that was impressive...


Roll on March

Several were 3s today and March.!

Keep filling up mate!

Got it in a few multiples, but bit short for my shallow pockets to be punting in singles :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on December 27, 2014, 01:38:57 PM
Tough task for Three Kingdoms coming up at Kempton.

But if he's as good as I hope I think he'll be competitive.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 27, 2014, 01:50:06 PM
Tough task for Three Kingdoms coming up at Kempton.

But if he's as good as I hope I think he'll be competitive.


Grand Annual winner there somewhere?!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on December 27, 2014, 01:51:58 PM
Sighs.

Easy to be an armchair jockey, but when you are trying to beat a dodger, why not delay your effort as long as possible to give Vibrato Valtat every chance to idle?

As soon as we went by VV, the grey picked up again.

Touched 1.14 in running :-(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on December 27, 2014, 01:54:25 PM
Tough task for Three Kingdoms coming up at Kempton.

But if he's as good as I hope I think he'll be competitive.


Grand Annual winner there somewhere?!

They must think he's an Arkle horse.

He will have fucked his handicap mark with today's effort.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 27, 2014, 01:56:35 PM
Sighs.

Easy to be an armchair jockey, but when you are trying to beat a dodger, why not delay your effort as long as possible to give Vibrato Valtat every chance to idle?

As soon as we went by VV, the grey picked up again.

Touched 1.14 in running :-(


Difference in Jockeys.

Touchy is mixing it at the top every day. Hughes gets about 3 chances a year so can't be as calm as he would probably like.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 27, 2014, 02:44:23 PM
I'm surprised they let Rishi loose on the public, he's so awkward when talking to owners, and trainers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 27, 2014, 02:53:38 PM
I'm surprised they let Rishi loose on the public, he's so awkward when talking to owners, and trainers.


All boxes must be ticked..regardless...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 27, 2014, 03:06:35 PM
I'm surprised they let Rishi loose on the public, he's so awkward when talking to owners, and trainers.


All boxes must be ticked..regardless...

You'd think they would keep the presenter with the worst interpersonal skills tucked away in the studio, and that way you can exercise some damage limitation.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 27, 2014, 03:37:58 PM
Des Scahill in comms got two horses with similar colours mixed up in the big handicap at Leopardstown, and thought that the ironically named Wrong Turn had won. It was layed for bundles at 1.10 and less.

I bet the betfair forum is about to spontaneously combust.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 27, 2014, 03:44:03 PM
Des Scahill in comms got two horses with similar colours mixed up in the big handicap at Leopardstown, and thought that the ironically named Wrong Turn had won. It was layed for bundles at 1.10 and less.

I bet the betfair forum is about to spontaneously combust.

Should make for some amusing reading later on :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 27, 2014, 04:38:06 PM
Des Scahill in comms got two horses with similar colours mixed up in the big handicap at Leopardstown, and thought that the ironically named Wrong Turn had won. It was layed for bundles at 1.10 and less.

I bet the betfair forum is about to spontaneously combust.


He makes Tommo look like a top drawer commentator. So many mistakes like that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on December 27, 2014, 05:55:29 PM
however taking faugheen was yesterday anyone taking anything near 5/4 for the champion hurdle needs their head checking. Can anyone really see it going off shorter? still think its jumping wont hold up at championship pace.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 28, 2014, 11:02:57 AM
however taking faugheen was yesterday anyone taking anything near 5/4 for the champion hurdle needs their head checking. Can anyone really see it going off shorter? still think its jumping wont hold up at championship pace.


No need to take 5/4 mate.

Am full up at 5/2, 3s.

Hope you having a good Xmas.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 28, 2014, 11:28:21 AM
Zaidpour adores heavy ground and has always seemed a stone better in seriously testing conditions. It's currently 11/2, yum-yum.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on December 28, 2014, 01:16:47 PM
however taking faugheen was yesterday anyone taking anything near 5/4 for the champion hurdle needs their head checking. Can anyone really see it going off shorter? still think its jumping wont hold up at championship pace.


No need to take 5/4 mate.

Am full up at 5/2, 3s.

Hope you having a good Xmas.

 ;bigadz;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 28, 2014, 01:54:27 PM
Zaidpour is a huge drifter on betty ???


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 28, 2014, 02:11:15 PM
however taking faugheen was yesterday anyone taking anything near 5/4 for the champion hurdle needs their head checking. Can anyone really see it going off shorter? still think its jumping wont hold up at championship pace.


No need to take 5/4 mate.

Am full up at 5/2, 3s.

Hope you having a good Xmas.

 ;bigadz;



Waiting til he drifts to 3s so i can lay it back..... ;whistle;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 28, 2014, 02:29:59 PM
Surely a stewards in Ireland?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 28, 2014, 02:40:44 PM
Surely a stewards in Ireland?

Not sure how it's not, the winner's jockey didn't even change his whip hand.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 28, 2014, 02:57:04 PM
Surely a stewards in Ireland?

Not sure how it's not, the winner's jockey didn't even change his whip hand.


Bizarre. Not even speaking from my pocket either.

At Fishers clearly has a problem that isn't sorted. You don't see experienced horses hurdle like that unless they have an issue.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2014, 03:49:02 PM
RTR looked good again there, and it's a shame Padraig would only lay me £7.50 at 33s...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 28, 2014, 03:51:23 PM
I am hoping that we see the next Gold Cup winner today up at Carlisle :D, but I must confess I was very very taken by Road to Riches performance at Down Royal.

Ok, it was early season fare, but he ran them stupid at the end, and the further he goes the better he looks, with his jumping getting better than ever at the end.

He also lost a few lengths at many fences when jumping left. Not a problem at Cheltenham.

By close of play we shall have seen most of the protaganists and I have invested a bit ew on R2R at 25s. GL


Hopefully, with our portfolio of R2R, Many Clouds and Silv Conti, we pretty much have the GC covered! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 28, 2014, 04:15:17 PM
I found that race more confusing than enlightening tbh, rather like the cameraman who didn't know which of about five horses to zoom in on after the last.

Still slightly envious of that 33/1 voucher on RTR tho'..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on December 28, 2014, 06:20:21 PM
migth give you an even money match bet on the day adz if im feeling brave


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 28, 2014, 09:27:46 PM
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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mickyp on December 29, 2014, 10:57:07 AM
Highland lodge to recoup our loses today adz ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 29, 2014, 11:28:42 AM
Highland lodge to recoup our loses today adz ?


I have backed Ziga Boy last couple and hope that now its finally won, it can step forward again.

I was told that Highland L needed plenty of time between its races, so it makes no sense to see it out again so soon.

I have opposed it, but with so much money for it, I have no doubt I will have egg on mush later!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mickyp on December 29, 2014, 02:05:57 PM
Hats off to the fly there, thought McManus had hatched a plan with 3 in the field, but great battling qualities fron the hurricane.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 29, 2014, 02:13:57 PM
Highland lodge to recoup our loses today adz ?


I have backed Ziga Boy last couple and hope that now its finally won, it can step forward again.

I was told that Highland L needed plenty of time between its races, so it makes no sense to see it out again so soon.

I have opposed it, but with so much money for it, I have no doubt I will have egg on mush later!!


Trading at 1.3 when fell.

Should have played golf!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on December 29, 2014, 02:23:24 PM
Lavelle has become a bit of a disappointment as a trainer hasn't she?

Seems to have a lot of promising types that just lose form very quickly



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2014, 03:30:10 PM
Thay always used to call open ditches "regulations" in Ireland for some reason that nobody could ever explain to me but suddenly a couple of years ago the term appears to have ceased to exist.

Anyone care to enlighten me?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 02:32:14 PM
Bit of a touch landed there by Tony Carroll/Adam Kirby in that last race at Lingers. 

I had a look at it earlier this morning and it seemed a tough race to sort out could easily have had 4 or 5 darts in it. 

I backed the first winner of the day at 14's.  But gave a chunk back on the Swan raider. 

Had a tickle on Billbrook Blaze e/w in the 2:00 Taunton.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 30, 2014, 02:39:08 PM
I was quite keen on Alberobello in the 2.30 on his first go over fences, but with half the fences likely to be dolled off, who knows.

I did notice Valid Point moved from Jim Old to Twister and could be chucked in if he sees the sort of improvement one might expect.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on December 30, 2014, 02:44:33 PM
I was quite keen on Alberobello in the 2.30 on his first go over fences, but with half the fences likely to be dolled off, who knows.

I did notice Valid Point moved from Jim Old to Twister and could be chucked in if he sees the sort of improvement one might expect.

Hugh Taylors step-in has stuck up that Alberobello earlier the day. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 30, 2014, 03:14:02 PM
I was quite keen on Alberobello in the 2.30 on his first go over fences, but with half the fences likely to be dolled off, who knows.

I did notice Valid Point moved from Jim Old to Twister and could be chucked in if he sees the sort of improvement one might expect.


Wrong!

Valid could be worth following, but think we best move along...nothing to see!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: redsimon on December 30, 2014, 03:59:22 PM
Thay always used to call open ditches "regulations" in Ireland for some reason that nobody could ever explain to me but suddenly a couple of years ago the term appears to have ceased to exist.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Because under the regulations for steeplechases there had to be an open ditch fence?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on December 30, 2014, 04:03:00 PM
Thay always used to call open ditches "regulations" in Ireland for some reason that nobody could ever explain to me but suddenly a couple of years ago the term appears to have ceased to exist.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Because under the regulations for steeplechases there had to be an open ditch fence?

I assume this is right.

http://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/26680153/leopardstown-regulation-fence#flvWelcomeHeader (http://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/26680153/leopardstown-regulation-fence#flvWelcomeHeader)

Yes, the Irish call them "Regulation". Meaning at least two have to be taken in a race. But a lot of regulations are filled in with a inviting filling of spruce, but by jaysis if you get dem wrong loike....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on December 30, 2014, 04:44:44 PM
Taunton was farcical today, is there any other big money sport that is run in such a joke amateurish way?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on December 30, 2014, 05:11:54 PM
Taunton was farcical today, is there any other big money sport that is run in such a joke amateurish way?

It is a big money sport for bookmakers, but for gaffs like Taunton, they are little more than Point to Point tracks.

The staff are prob paid peanuts and thats why you have idiots making decisions.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 30, 2014, 09:51:13 PM
The first two races I could live with. Jockeys not happy, jockeys happy etc.

But when they miss 4 hurdles down the back for sun when it is past sun down is worthy of job losses.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 01, 2015, 01:31:38 AM
Many Happy Returns to all of the horses in training.  ;charmaine;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on January 01, 2015, 11:46:17 AM
Happy New Year to all posters, lurkers and misclicking Fredites

My first bets of the New Year will be:

Pigeon Island    Cheltenham 12:45  1pt e/w 20/1
Diocles             Cheltenham 13:55  2pt e/w 12/1
Sybarite           Cheltenham 14:30  1pt e/w 13/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 01, 2015, 12:15:44 PM
Happy New Year to all posters, lurkers and misclicking Fredites
My first bets of the New Year will be:

Pigeon Island    Cheltenham 12:45  1pt e/w 20/1
Diocles             Cheltenham 13:55  2pt e/w 12/1
Sybarite           Cheltenham 14:30  1pt e/w 13/2

I'm one of those.

Love this thread, many thanks to all who contribute to it. I'm just a "taker" here, but love the thread.

To celebrate NYD, I'm going to back those three, then watch the last 2 on Ch 4 Racing.

Might even add a "Patent". Oohhh.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 01, 2015, 03:08:59 PM
Happy New Year to all posters, lurkers and misclicking Fredites

My first bets of the New Year will be:

Pigeon Island    Cheltenham 12:45  1pt e/w 20/1
Diocles             Cheltenham 13:55  2pt e/w 12/1
Sybarite           Cheltenham 14:30  1pt e/w 13/2

Extraordinary finish by Sybarite there, way off the pace 2 out, and so nearly made the frame.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2015, 03:16:56 PM
Happy New Year to all posters, lurkers and misclicking Fredites

My first bets of the New Year will be:

Pigeon Island    Cheltenham 12:45  1pt e/w 20/1
Diocles             Cheltenham 13:55  2pt e/w 12/1
Sybarite           Cheltenham 14:30  1pt e/w 13/2

Extraordinary finish by Sybarite there, way off the pace 2 out, and so nearly made the frame.

Frustrating horse, as it seems to only like running the last few furlongs...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on January 01, 2015, 03:34:42 PM
Yep, if it's frustrating from a betting angle, the trainer must be pulling his hair out.

Was quite pleased with Pigeon Island's run, maybe we'll get to recoup some losses when he gets the decent ground I think he needs.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 01, 2015, 03:47:58 PM
ROR another oscar whisky all over again if they go for world hurdle


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 01, 2015, 04:40:13 PM
ROR another oscar whisky all over again if they go for world hurdle


Happy with my 25s. Beat em silly today. :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mickyp on January 01, 2015, 05:45:05 PM
ROR another oscar whisky all over again if they go for world hurdle


Happy with my 25s. Beat em silly today. :D
That's a very nice voucher to have adz, was at Musselburgh today and watched the ror race in tote hall. Think every one was on the Henderson horse apart from me and my mate, at the top of the hill my mate says ror knows his way home from here, I said get the beers up .


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2015, 06:44:30 PM
Be some story if he could do it!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 02, 2015, 09:25:49 PM
Rather keen on Saturday Girl, Venitia getting at least a double tomorrow.

Arthurs Oak 2.05 Winc  9/2

Relax 3.35 Sand. 13/2


Think the first one may well be heavily backed too.GL


Edit. Just seen Linfoot put it up(Relax), but as per last week, our bobby1 can confirm this was suggested to him long before our Ben put it up.

In fact, maybe he is waiting to see what i recommend! ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 03, 2015, 09:38:51 AM
Relax about to to be the Laddies enhanced jobbie at 7-1 for 15min


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on January 03, 2015, 01:50:58 PM
They hung it out at 7 for quite a time last night while Tony Calv1n was ramping Unioniste on Twitter and before Segal tipped the same.
Here's hoping V can do her "Cripes, lumme, [I've plotted one up in a handicap again]" act again come quarter to four. :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on January 03, 2015, 04:02:51 PM
They hung it out at 7 for quite a time last night while Tony Calv1n was ramping Unioniste on Twitter and before Segal tipped the same.
Here's hoping V can do her "Cripes, lumme, [I've plotted one up in a handicap again]" act again come quarter to four. :)

it's going off 5-2 by the looks of it

every man and its dog amongst newspaper people tipped it last night/this morning



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on January 03, 2015, 04:19:05 PM
LADS KNEW! ;)
Bit strange if this horse's target is really the National. Or is that not a handicap any more?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 03, 2015, 04:24:58 PM
LADS KNEW! ;)
Bit strange if this horse's target is really the National. Or is that not a handicap any more?


Relax, never gonna beat that, even without tired mistakes at end.

Was chatting with a mate yesterday. Nicholls campaigns his horses all year long and works on them improving. Too many trainers just target Chelts and hope it all clicks for one week in March.

I think I know who probably knows best.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on January 03, 2015, 04:33:53 PM
God, yes. Stands out a mile in his profession. The best young trainers his protégés too. It's massively to his credit that Unioniste is not mucking about over hurdles.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2015, 04:37:55 PM
Plenty of silver linings about, anyway!


Triolo worth backing at the festival on the back of that run, on ground it isn't supposed to like?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 03, 2015, 06:39:25 PM
What price was Lami Serge for The Supreme before today's run?

Amazing that it had eight runs in France over hurdles without winning for no lesser trainer than Guillaume Macaire.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 03, 2015, 06:50:53 PM
12.20 at lingfield today looked like stevie donohoe has gone crooked to me after his ride on singular quest. anyone else see it?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2015, 06:53:04 PM
What price was Lami Serge for The Supreme before today's run?

Amazing that it had eight runs in France over hurdles without winning for no lesser trainer than Guillaume Macaire.

Think it was 14s earlier this week, and 12s before the race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 03, 2015, 07:09:42 PM
What price was Lami Serge for The Supreme before today's run?

Amazing that it had eight runs in France over hurdles without winning for no lesser trainer than Guillaume Macaire.

Think it was 14s earlier this week, and 12s before the race.

It reminded me of Sprinter Sacre with that performance today, really impressive.

I do have a nagging doubt about whether it will handle good ground though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2015, 07:17:18 PM
12.20 at lingfield today looked like stevie donohoe has gone crooked to me after his ride on singular quest. anyone else see it?

Not experienced enough to know what's what... Still, didn't look like he was doing much graft on the horse, until there was about a furlong left.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2015, 07:18:35 PM
What price was Lami Serge for The Supreme before today's run?

Amazing that it had eight runs in France over hurdles without winning for no lesser trainer than Guillaume Macaire.

Think it was 14s earlier this week, and 12s before the race.

It reminded me of Sprinter Sacre with that performance today, really impressive.

I do have a nagging doubt about whether it will handle good ground though.

Geraghty thinks it'll be fine, but he's hardly going to say any different, is he?

Henderson said he was surprised it was that good over hurdles.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 03, 2015, 08:34:16 PM
12.20 at lingfield today looked like stevie donohoe has gone crooked to me after his ride on singular quest. anyone else see it?

Not experienced enough to know what's what... Still, didn't look like he was doing much graft on the horse, until there was about a furlong left.

it was the way he lost a good possy early and ended up back in the pack that made me dubious, plus the huge drift pre


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 01:38:23 PM
You have to wonder about the ride Ruby gave Blood Cotil there.

Out the back, never put in the race. Ruby is about the best judge of pace out there.

Looks to me like he will be handicapping at the festivals off a nice weight now.........


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 04, 2015, 01:49:07 PM
12.20 at lingfield today looked like stevie donohoe has gone crooked to me after his ride on singular quest. anyone else see it?

Look at the trainers he mainly rides for

Can get the job done when he needs to whether that is winning or not. Not that Beckett would be that type of trainer


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2015, 08:30:35 PM
Maybe worth a small ew bet on Paddy The Stout at Lingers tomorrow. 2.40

Looked to be running back into form last time, and the drop in distance should be spot on.

10s looks ok. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 05, 2015, 03:16:06 PM
I strongly dislike Paddy Brennan. ;grr;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 05, 2015, 03:43:43 PM
I strongly dislike Paddy Brennan. ;grr;

Backed it last night, and forgot about it until I saw this.

Painful last fence :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on January 05, 2015, 04:45:20 PM
Maybe worth a small ew bet on Paddy The Stout at Lingers tomorrow. 2.40

Looked to be running back into form last time, and the drop in distance should be spot on.

10s looks ok. GL

Very Ul that bud, had it all wrong at the last didn't he.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 05, 2015, 07:05:44 PM
Very decent run, pretty unlucky not to make the frame.

Keep 'em coming Adzy.

I could be on my own here(again) but I like the 12/1 Zarkandar for the WH.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 05, 2015, 10:57:13 PM
One of Horsey's old faves is out tomorrow - Tufto likes finding one to beat him, but ran pretty well again LTO, and is running in the last at Southwell (9/2 with everyday/BFSB).

I've chucked him in a double with the Seahawks for the Superbowl!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 05, 2015, 11:00:53 PM
The old boy loves Southwell more than me

Wrong thread marky but I see from.twitter a few firms paid out in Harris after all. Might be worth an email



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 05, 2015, 11:07:50 PM
The old boy loves Southwell more than me

Wrong thread marky but I see from.twitter a few firms paid out in Harris after all. Might be worth an email



Have you got a link to the tweets, Horsey?

I did it with 365, who on past dealings are one of the more reasonable firms, so I'll definitely mail them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 05, 2015, 11:08:58 PM
Very decent run, pretty unlucky not to make the frame.

Keep 'em coming Adzy.

I could be on my own here(again) but I like the 12/1 Zarkandar for the WH.

Have heard a fair few people talking him up for the WH, as what they think is a solid E/W shout.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 05, 2015, 11:18:12 PM
The old boy loves Southwell more than me

Wrong thread marky but I see from.twitter a few firms paid out in Harris after all. Might be worth an email



Have you got a link to the tweets, Horsey?

I did it with 365, who on past dealings are one of the more reasonable firms, so I'll definitely mail them.

Just did a search for him yesterday and.now can't find them

Seem.to.remember others on there saying sky and hills paid out presumably on both


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 05, 2015, 11:24:18 PM
The old boy loves Southwell more than me

Wrong thread marky but I see from.twitter a few firms paid out in Harris after all. Might be worth an email



Have you got a link to the tweets, Horsey?

I did it with 365, who on past dealings are one of the more reasonable firms, so I'll definitely mail them.

Just did a search for him yesterday and.now can't find them

Seem.to.remember others on there saying sky and hills paid out presumably on both

Just found a tweet from Skybet saying they had paid out on both.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 06, 2015, 01:04:10 AM
Very decent run, pretty unlucky not to make the frame.

Keep 'em coming Adzy.

I could be on my own here(again) but I like the 12/1 Zarkandar for the WH.

Have heard a fair few people talking him up for the WH, as what they think is a solid E/W shout.

I was really tempted to have a decent bet on the 12/1 EW, but betting ante-post EW is double-jeopardy and you feel such a wally if they don't turn up so just went for a medium-sized win bet which I could well regret.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on January 06, 2015, 01:11:56 AM
The old boy loves Southwell more than me

Wrong thread marky but I see from.twitter a few firms paid out in Harris after all. Might be worth an email



Have you got a link to the tweets, Horsey?

I did it with 365, who on past dealings are one of the more reasonable firms, so I'll definitely mail them.

Just did a search for him yesterday and.now can't find them

Seem.to.remember others on there saying sky and hills paid out presumably on both

Just found a tweet from Skybet saying they had paid out on both.

What was this about?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 06, 2015, 01:19:58 AM
The old boy loves Southwell more than me

Wrong thread marky but I see from.twitter a few firms paid out in Harris after all. Might be worth an email



Have you got a link to the tweets, Horsey?

I did it with 365, who on past dealings are one of the more reasonable firms, so I'll definitely mail them.

Just did a search for him yesterday and.now can't find them

Seem.to.remember others on there saying sky and hills paid out presumably on both

Just found a tweet from Skybet saying they had paid out on both.

What was this about?

Horsey put up Kadeem Harris fgs in the Cardiff v Colchester match last week.

He scored 2nd, but sky paid out on him, as the first was actually an OG.

I've just mailed 365, so hopefully they'll cough.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 06, 2015, 01:22:44 AM
Very decent run, pretty unlucky not to make the frame.

Keep 'em coming Adzy.

I could be on my own here(again) but I like the 12/1 Zarkandar for the WH.

Have heard a fair few people talking him up for the WH, as what they think is a solid E/W shout.

I was really tempted to have a decent bet on the 12/1 EW, but betting ante-post EW is double-jeopardy and you feel such a wally if they don't turn up so just went for a medium-sized win bet which I could well regret.


Unless I get carried away with something, I only bet in tenners and twenties, so I generally only bet win only anyway.

Pretty sure Nicholls has said that's where he is going, so that's one less thing to worry about :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 06, 2015, 04:14:32 AM
even though i thought that zarkander did stay and just idled last time out i highly doubt he will stay 3m at cheltenham at world hurdle pace


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 06, 2015, 04:26:30 PM
The general


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 06, 2015, 04:32:07 PM
The general

Needed every yard there, and the jockey has definitely earned his money!

Counters 365 saying that based on the FA giving the goal to Ralls, it's a loser.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on January 06, 2015, 04:58:21 PM
Thanks for the heads up Marky  ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 06, 2015, 06:05:32 PM
Thanks for the heads up Marky  ;applause;

Nice to get lucky, especially when Tufto has hit more crossbars than Soccer AM guests over the last year!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 06, 2015, 10:55:16 PM
Is the story about Jeremy Kyle in the running to present the Grand National on c4 racing a wind up?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on January 06, 2015, 11:01:50 PM
Is the story about Jeremy Kyle in the running to present the Grand National on c4 racing a wind up?

Looks like the Daily Mail broke the story. So yes, a wind up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 07, 2015, 12:12:58 AM
His show is shit, and he comes across as a twat there, but isn't he fairly enthusiastic about the game, and puts a bit of his own dough into it?

Whenever I've seen him speaking on any of the racing programmes, he has come across pretty well. Adz/Horsey would probably be more knowledgeable on exactly how involved he is in racing.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 07, 2015, 09:47:24 AM
He has horses with Gifford or did and I think has part shares with Simon parasite Claire of corcoral

His show is quite ironic really as he used to regularly have masses on the shortest price horses of the day in betting shops near and around Kent and was very aggressive when he did the lot



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 07, 2015, 10:43:12 PM
Herdsman 2.40 Catterick

Been looking forward to some pieces being applied as he is a lazy bugger.

Two runs for Ellison, and a 1/1 course record. Hughes up, who I regard as a decent long distance jock.

Would be very confident, if it wasn't for the fact I rarely get Ellison correct. May need the ground a little softer, but has form on the going.

Had a decent ew bet at 12s. If Ellison fancies it, it could off off half the price.GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on January 08, 2015, 02:06:19 PM
Timeform's Calum Madell  likes Busker and Caspian Prince in the 2nd & 3rd races at Meydan  this afternoon. Think I'll throw in True Story and Music Theory that he also fancies to make a Lucky 15 for an interest.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 08, 2015, 02:22:34 PM
He has horses with Gifford or did and I think has part shares with Simon parasite Claire of corcoral

His show is quite ironic really as he used to regularly have masses on the shortest price horses of the day in betting shops near and around Kent and was very aggressive when he did the lot



:D

Not like he can't afford to knock a few quid in...



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 08, 2015, 02:24:18 PM
Looks like a Saturday, with horses going all over the gaff...

14:20 - Frankthetank
17:15 - Miniskirt
17:45 - Poppy Bond

3 from my tracker in a trixie :)

Good luck everyone that is punting on this fine afternoon!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 08, 2015, 03:22:24 PM
Ooooooooh :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on January 08, 2015, 03:34:28 PM
UL Adz, thanks though, had it e/w.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 08, 2015, 06:49:44 PM
If you need an example of a horse proving it runs for the whip, that was it.

Just a pity he didnt start a yard or two sooner.

Being beaten a neck after 3.6miles, hurt.

Another crossbar, but more profits. ;madasahatstand;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 09, 2015, 01:14:16 PM
Probably worth taking the last of the 12-1 on Global Power in the Warwick Chase tomorrow!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 11, 2015, 10:17:59 AM
First day of Chelmsford(Great Leighs)

It was a lovely place with a superb track when it was last open. Im not a great lover of AW racing, but see the benefits etc. I hope it is successful this time round.

Best test the water though.

Doctor Parkes, can hopefully land that bet I went for in 2014, before he was pulled out. Ran a nice race at Kempton last time, making up lots of late ground. Handicapped to win on old form, but up slightly in class..

Hopeful! 2.20 @ Chelmsford Dr Parkes ew General 11/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 13, 2015, 02:25:42 PM
THE GENERAL

Snapshot of my twitter after that

Sam Turner ‏@STurnerTipster  2m2 minutes ago
Weights and measures judges gone a bit quiet #generaltufto


 David Johnson ‏@davidjohnsonTF  3m3 minutes ago
The most likeable squiggle horse ever! #TheGeneral


 Tom Morley ‏@twmorley  3m3 minutes ago
General Tufto is what racing is all about!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on January 15, 2015, 12:42:10 AM
Hurricane Fly just has to be ew value in the Champion Hurdle at 14/1 hasn't he?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 15, 2015, 02:38:41 PM
Hurricane Fly just has to be ew value in the Champion Hurdle at 14/1 hasn't he?

I'd probably prefer the 12/1 NRNB, because it's no guarantee he even turns up.

Would love to see the horse win it again, though!



Possible that we might be seeing Big Bucks II at Cheltenham, too...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 15, 2015, 02:45:00 PM
Hurricane Fly just has to be ew value in the Champion Hurdle at 14/1 hasn't he?

If you could guarantee soft ground I'd be all over 14/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 15, 2015, 02:50:53 PM
Soft ground is the key, isn't it.

In Ireland, its almost looked like a script, with Jeski saying "carry on mate, I'll run you close, but we both know I'm after the big one"

He was beaten fair and square by New One, who got hampered last year.

Faugheen just looks like second coming.

Behind them there is not much bar The Fly, but on soft ground all change.

Even at 10 he still went off 11/4 f.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 15, 2015, 02:59:54 PM
Won't Claisse have his watering cans out, to make sure it's no better than 'good to soft' on opening day?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on January 15, 2015, 03:52:54 PM
Big mention for Vivant Poeme in the 16;10 at Wincanton this afternoon.

No the greatest of prices at 7/2, but a colleague has a share in one in the yard, and word is they expect a lot better from this one today. Back to 2 miles and a positive ride and they are expected to be at the bookies satchel by 415 collecting. Good luck if you have a nibble.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on January 15, 2015, 03:54:43 PM
Big mention for Vivant Poeme in the 16;10 at Wincanton this afternoon.

No the greatest of prices at 7/2, but a colleague has a share in one in the yard, and word is they expect a lot better from this one today. Back to 2 miles and a positive ride and they are expected to be at the bookies satchel by 415 collecting. Good luck if you have a nibble.

3/1 PP money back if backed through PP messenger app and it finishs 2nd to the fav. Its not the best offer but its an offer in a race with 3 shorter priced horses.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on January 15, 2015, 04:17:09 PM
Up to what stake on the PP offer? Bit confused about the 3 shorter price runners, Only the 5/4 fav ahead of it in the book.??


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on January 15, 2015, 04:24:04 PM
Up to what stake on the PP offer? Bit confused about the 3 shorter price runners, Only the 5/4 fav ahead of it in the book.??

£50.

This race is set up so you have one Fav 5/4 then two shorted priced runners including your horse. Then its 15/1 Bar.

This means that (just using figures and ignoring the specific horses). If your horse finishs 2nd it is likely the fav will win. (I think this will happen about 60% of the time.)

I dont have time to do the full maths but it is an OK race for this bet.

If you had say an 8 horse race with one 10/11 shot and one 2/1 shot and the rest were say 100/1 shots this would be a good race for the offer (but they probably would offer it).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on January 15, 2015, 04:29:35 PM
Thanks for the explanation, got ya. Had a chunk on at 7/2, hopefully that will oblige for me :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on January 15, 2015, 04:57:11 PM
Apologies, that was tripe. 3rd and well beat~!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 17, 2015, 05:11:24 AM
2.40 carrig mor is a different class to these, i dont often put 6/4 shots up but this should be closer to 4/6 that 6/4 and i think its a great bet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 17, 2015, 09:09:34 AM
Folks, I'm en route to Ascot to meet up with some bloke called Clarence House. Aside from the big one, does anyone have any thoughts on the day's card?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 17, 2015, 09:11:32 AM
Folks, I'm en route to Ascot to meet up with some bloke called Clarence House. Aside from the big one, does anyone have any thoughts on the day's card?

Yes, take a warm coat - it's bloody freezing down here.

Very hard frost overnight, & it's still -2c.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 17, 2015, 09:14:03 AM
Folks, I'm en route to Ascot to meet up with some bloke called Clarence House. Aside from the big one, does anyone have any thoughts on the day's card?

Yes, take a warm coat - it's bloody freezing down here.

Very hard frost overnight, & it's still -2c.

Thanks. I have a full length number for the journey from the station to the VIP Enclosure.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 17, 2015, 09:15:01 AM
Have a good day, Tal!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 17, 2015, 09:17:06 AM
Folks, I'm en route to Ascot to meet up with some bloke called Clarence House. Aside from the big one, does anyone have any thoughts on the day's card?

Yes, take a warm coat - it's bloody freezing down here.

Very hard frost overnight, & it's still -2c.

Thanks. I have a full length number for the journey from the station to the VIP Enclosure.


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/14/1394800846920_lc_galleryImage_Cheltenham_Festival_day_4.JPG)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 17, 2015, 09:24:02 AM
You there already, teeks?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 17, 2015, 09:50:31 AM
Folks, I'm en route to Ascot to meet up with some bloke called Clarence House. Aside from the big one, does anyone have any thoughts on the day's card?

Yes, take a warm coat - it's bloody freezing down here.

Very hard frost overnight, & it's still -2c.

Thanks. I have a full length number for the journey from the station to the VIP Enclosure.


Are there no standards anywhere, anymore?

Have a great day.

I know Golden Doyen was supposed to get the lads their Xmas money at Chepstow, but bombed. If nothing else, it shows they hold him in high regard.

Pipe tends to do well with these French imports first time  out, and with a tongue tie on fto, he looks to be getting the treatment, in a difficult race. Could be anything or nothing!

If I was ahead by SS time, he gets the lot. If he has gone, he's gone, it won't cost me ever again, but if I let evens go, I would feel sick.

Finally, Mr Nichols, despite being in Barbados, still has to have a Saturday winner, and hopefully, it will be Royal Rebellion, in a race where I could have picked 6.

Tough day, but hopefully you will witness something special.

Racing needs its heroes, cliche.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 17, 2015, 09:55:32 AM
Nice one, Adz. Yeah, some tough cards today. The each way spider has been left in a matchbox at home.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 17, 2015, 11:29:59 AM
what price does sprinter have to be before we get the wheelbarrows out?  its either fit or not fit enough to do the job. if its 70% fit it wins should surely be 4/6 even even with the absence. its the most precious 2m chaser in racing no way on earth henderson runs it if its not showing all the right signs at home


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 17, 2015, 11:34:00 AM
what price does sprinter have to be before we get the wheelbarrows out?  its either fit or not fit enough to do the job. if its 70% fit it wins should surely be 4/6 even even with the absence. its the most precious 2m chaser in racing no way on earth henderson runs it if its not showing all the right signs at home

7/4 for Chelts NRNB


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 17, 2015, 11:35:32 AM
what price does sprinter have to be before we get the wheelbarrows out?  its either fit or not fit enough to do the job. if its 70% fit it wins should surely be 4/6 even even with the absence. its the most precious 2m chaser in racing no way on earth henderson runs it if its not showing all the right signs at home


11/10 is mahoooosive isn't it?!


As I said earlier. If he can't beat these after the prep etc, he has surely gone, and we don't go in again.

Its deep breath time and do it!

There is always the pub later if it fails, and if we scoop its the best bet ever.....cough!

Go the Black Aeroplane!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 17, 2015, 11:36:32 AM
id rather take the even money today. If SS doesnt win today it doesnt mean it wont show up with doubts about it in the QM. sure if it wins it goes 4/5 but if it wins were weighed in at tips against at the moment, would have to say the best indicator will probably be the exchanges 5 mins before the off


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 17, 2015, 11:59:32 AM
I'm just going on the basis that he won't go to Chelts, if he runs like a bag of shit, or is pulled up today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 17, 2015, 02:43:30 PM
The New One made that look like hard work, didn't he?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 17, 2015, 02:45:28 PM
Good for us Faugheen backers.

That jumping right business, was the most worrying aspect.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 17, 2015, 02:52:34 PM
Good for us Faugheen backers.

That jumping right business, was the most worrying aspect.

Where has that come from? How does a horse start doing it? Didn't look like a CH winner to me although I know the ground didn't suit.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 17, 2015, 03:59:06 PM
At least the CC should be good this year!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 17, 2015, 04:07:55 PM
At least the CC should be good this year!


What do you make of that mate?

Who would you want to be on next time?

Queen Mum is a complete puzzle to me. Who you fancy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 17, 2015, 04:12:08 PM
At least the CC should be good this year!


What do you make of that mate?

Who would you want to be on next time?

Queen Mum is a complete puzzle to me. Who you fancy?

Well, it's hard to tell how much Sprinter will come on for that run, but he looked like he was all over them rounding the final bend.

Dodging Bullets is obviously only dodge by name, and another Nicholl's special.

SdG and DB joint faves?

Champagne Fever probably coming back to 2miles now?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 17, 2015, 04:16:12 PM
Folks, I'm en route to Ascot to meet up with some bloke called Clarence House. Aside from the big one, does anyone have any thoughts on the day's card?

Yes, take a warm coat - it's bloody freezing down here.

Very hard frost overnight, & it's still -2c.

Thanks. I have a full length number for the journey from the station to the VIP Enclosure.


Are there no standards anywhere, anymore?

Have a great day.

I know Golden Doyen was supposed to get the lads their Xmas money at Chepstow, but bombed. If nothing else, it shows they hold him in high regard.

Pipe tends to do well with these French imports first time  out, and with a tongue tie on fto, he looks to be getting the treatment, in a difficult race. Could be anything or nothing!

If I was ahead by SS time, he gets the lot. If he has gone, he's gone, it won't cost me ever again, but if I let evens go, I would feel sick.

Finally, Mr Nichols, despite being in Barbados, still has to have a Saturday winner, and hopefully, it will be Royal Rebellion, in a race where I could have picked 6.

Tough day, but hopefully you will witness something special.

Racing needs its heroes, cliche.

Oioioioiiiiii!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 17, 2015, 04:17:54 PM
Too good, Adz, too good  ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 17, 2015, 04:18:47 PM
Lovely.

Why I bother with bloody favs when clearly difficult handicaps are far easier to solve, I never know!

Enjoy the rest mate. ;sark;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on January 17, 2015, 04:20:19 PM
Chapeau, in an impossible race, Adz. :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 17, 2015, 04:21:58 PM
At least the CC should be good this year!


What do you make of that mate?

Who would you want to be on next time?

Queen Mum is a complete puzzle to me. Who you fancy?

Well, it's hard to tell how much Sprinter will come on for that run, but he looked like he was all over them rounding the final bend.

Dodging Bullets is obviously only dodge by name, and another Nicholl's special.

SdG and DB joint faves?

Champagne Fever probably coming back to 2miles now?


Dodging clearly on the improve, and I gather the time was good too.

Should really be fav on that now.

Hendo looked a bit upset immed after, so not sure if hehasa lot left to work on.

Interesting stuff bud.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 19, 2015, 01:22:00 PM
A horse I have been looking forward to jumping fences makes his debut over the big stuff today.

Waldorf Salad 2.0 Exeter is trained by Venetia Williams and so shouldn't lack from adequate schooling. Its a big old unit that has looked a chaser since i first saw it. It is also quite nicely in on ratings if it can convert hurdle form to chasing.

Im hoping it will be significantly better.

Its currently 16-1, which is actually my only concern, as normally there is money for her horses when fancied.

Lets have a little ew bet just in case. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 19, 2015, 03:05:43 PM
3rd. Backed into 9-1

Jumped beautifully and pretty sure if we had the fully compliment of jumps we would have been lots closer.

Hopefully a few got some ew cash.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: booder on January 19, 2015, 03:14:18 PM
3rd.

Jumped beautifully and pretty sure if we had the fully compliment of jumps we would have been lots closer.

Hopefully a few got some ew cash.

Only had pennies on but thank you.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on January 19, 2015, 05:00:59 PM
3rd. Backed into 9-1

Jumped beautifully and pretty sure if we had the fully compliment of jumps we would have been lots closer.

Hopefully a few got some ew cash.

Thanks Adz, another profit.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 19, 2015, 05:04:48 PM
3rd. Backed into 9-1

Jumped beautifully and pretty sure if we had the fully compliment of jumps we would have been lots closer.

Hopefully a few got some ew cash.

Unlucky, and cheers again.

Freerolling a couple more shots at it anyway!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 22, 2015, 06:12:00 PM
Final Furlong boys are back...

https://soundcloud.com/emmet-kennedy/sprinter-sacre-hurricane-fly-vs-jezki-the-whip-debate-and-listeners-tweets


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on January 23, 2015, 08:54:09 PM
Does anyone know what Present View's preference is for tomorrow?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2015, 08:56:58 PM
Does anyone know what Present View's preference is for tomorrow?


Chelts


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2015, 08:58:05 PM
Anyone else going to Chelts tomorrow?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on January 23, 2015, 08:58:41 PM
Does anyone know what Present View's preference is for tomorrow?


Chelts

Thanks.

Big day for Value At Risk.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2015, 09:09:42 PM
Yes. Would be good for Skelton to have a genuine contender for the Festival.

No doubt Brooky will think both his will win, but I'm interested to see why Tizard seems to be running his best 3 novices in the same race.

I was very taken with both Robinsfirth and Thistlecrack in their races this year. I guess its a race off for the space on the Festival truck.

Im hoping Thistlecrack gives me at least an ew run for my money.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 23, 2015, 10:11:03 PM
off to donny tomorrow with my mates company, kinda like harvery hope in the wide open first at 25s


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2015, 10:45:01 PM
off to donny tomorrow with my mates company, kinda like harvery hope in the wide open first at 25s


Booooom!

On my list too! GL Mr T


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 24, 2015, 02:43:54 PM
Adz a but slow this arvo.   Gl in March.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on January 24, 2015, 02:44:52 PM
Yep, lovely run from Many Clouds.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 24, 2015, 02:52:04 PM
MC was a huge price today touching 9/2 on betty before the race.

Might not be that big in March.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 24, 2015, 02:55:23 PM
Adz a but slow this arvo.   Gl in March.

He's down there, and I got a text just after he crossed the line :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on January 24, 2015, 03:00:20 PM
MC was a huge price today touching 9/2 on betty before the race.

Might not be that big in March.

MC now generally 8/1 NRNB for Gold Cup but still 12/1 NRNB on betfair sportsbook I think.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 24, 2015, 03:06:23 PM
MC was a huge price today touching 9/2 on betty before the race.

Might not be that big in March.

MC now generally 8/1 NRNB for Gold Cup but still 12/1 NRNB on betfair sportsbook I think.

Pretty sure that MC would prefer soft ground nevertheless 8/1 NRNB seems fair.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 24, 2015, 03:42:01 PM
http://coralchampionsclub.co.uk/news/the-yard/own-template-at-taunton

Does anyone know anything about the club above. I was invited to join FOC by email and have won tickets to watch Template run at Taunton on Tuesday, if it wins I get 10% of the winnings. Just seems that it all happened too easily, I'm sceptical that it is some sort of scam but Google does not show anything.

Anyone got any experience of these?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 24, 2015, 04:00:43 PM
http://coralchampionsclub.co.uk/news/the-yard/own-template-at-taunton

Does anyone know anything about the club above. I was invited to join FOC by email and have won tickets to watch Template run at Taunton on Tuesday, if it wins I get 10% of the winnings. Just seems that it all happened too easily, I'm sceptical that it is some sort of scam but Google does not show anything.

Anyone got any experience of these?

Looks like it's part of Coral, so wouldn't have thought there is anything underhand.

Maybe drop their support an email asking the coup.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 24, 2015, 05:07:27 PM
http://coralchampionsclub.co.uk/news/the-yard/own-template-at-taunton

Does anyone know anything about the club above. I was invited to join FOC by email and have won tickets to watch Template run at Taunton on Tuesday, if it wins I get 10% of the winnings. Just seems that it all happened too easily, I'm sceptical that it is some sort of scam but Google does not show anything.

Anyone got any experience of these?

Looks like it's part of Coral, so wouldn't have thought there is anything underhand.

Maybe drop their support an email asking the coup.

Seems it could be legit, I've asked a few people who have heard about it. Yeah I'll send them an email just to double check. Just when something goes that simple nowadays it seems to good to be true. Maybe sometimes that are as genuine as the seem.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 24, 2015, 06:06:48 PM
Perfectly legit Scott.

Ive been in it for ages. Have advised people on here to join in the past. You get the odd offer, enhanced odds etc.

Think the horse you mentioned is fairly well thought of and is with Fry. Best go and hopefully win a couple of hundo if it wins! GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 24, 2015, 06:22:36 PM
Oh..... did I mention.


Go on THE CLOUDS.....OiOiOiOi.

Roll on the 13th!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on January 24, 2015, 06:41:22 PM
is 5/2 Peace and Love for the triumph a steam in job?

5/4 in places, but it is the triumph...big field, much can happen?

thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 24, 2015, 06:46:13 PM
Weird race today, but at least the horse handles Cheltenham...

I chucked it in a couple multiples straight after the last race, but haven't done anything else off the back of that.

I'd guess you're probably better hanging about, and you'll likely get a bigger price on the day.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 24, 2015, 06:47:22 PM
Oh..... did I mention.


Go on THE CLOUDS.....OiOiOiOi.

Roll on the 13th!!

:D

Might have to extend that khazi!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 24, 2015, 07:04:53 PM
Perfectly legit Scott.

Ive been in it for ages. Have advised people on here to join in the past. You get the odd offer, enhanced odds etc.

Think the horse you mentioned is fairly well thought of and is with Fry. Best go and hopefully win a couple of hundo if it wins! GL

Thanks Adam, well done n your faith with Many Clouds, owes none of us anything but would certainly be the icing on the cake if he wins the big one. Bet it feels top of the world when u get them right like this?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 24, 2015, 07:07:53 PM
is 5/2 Peace and Love for the triumph a steam in job?

5/4 in places, but it is the triumph...big field, much can happen?

thanks


Done absolutely nothing wrong. They went very slow today which meant he pulled v hard but still did the job nicely. A big positive.

Both wins have been on the soft, and I would be happy to take him on at that price. Gonna be plenty of ew options that pay the same for a place. If he isn't scheduled to run again, I can't see his price contract any further.


FWIW, I like Hargam, on what I hope will be better ground, at the prices.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 24, 2015, 07:14:01 PM
Perfectly legit Scott.

Ive been in it for ages. Have advised people on here to join in the past. You get the odd offer, enhanced odds etc.

Think the horse you mentioned is fairly well thought of and is with Fry. Best go and hopefully win a couple of hundo if it wins! GL

Thanks Adam, well done n your faith with Many Clouds, owes none of us anything but would certainly be the icing on the cake if he wins the big one. Bet it feels top of the world when u get them right like this?

Its nice when you spot them early, and your faith is rewarded. I almost didn't back him today thinking more about the GC. Then it was a sod this, you gotta back him every time, moment.
4-1 also helped!!

Got some nice vouchers in the tin, and Bet everyday kindly offering 33s for today and 13th was maxed too(not much but all helps). Gonna be quite a thing if he gets there in one piece.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 25, 2015, 02:42:59 AM
if u can imagine the perfect day for a january NH meeting it was at donny today. CLear blue sky, chill in the air decentish ground and in the box we had some sun reflection. awesome



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 25, 2015, 02:43:56 AM
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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 25, 2015, 03:05:36 AM
Good stuff, but what's the early finish all about?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 25, 2015, 03:24:29 AM
had m fill by about midday, went from champers to beer then gin and tonic, some dodgepot bar in donny then back to hometown and got chucked out of my local for celebrating a pool victory, was back by 1am, sad showing i agree


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 25, 2015, 03:33:43 AM
had m fill by about midday, went from champers to beer then gin and tonic, some dodgepot bar in donny then back to hometown and got chucked out of my local for celebrating a pool victory, was back by 1am, sad showing i agree

Haha, in fairness, it's not bad for a boys day out this side of the atlantic :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 25, 2015, 12:00:34 PM
I am hoping that we see the next Gold Cup winner today up at Carlisle :D, but I must confess I was very very taken by Road to Riches performance at Down Royal.

Ok, it was early season fare, but he ran them stupid at the end, and the further he goes the better he looks, with his jumping getting better than ever at the end.

He also lost a few lengths at many fences when jumping left. Not a problem at Cheltenham.

By close of play we shall have seen most of the protaganists and I have invested a bit ew on R2R at 25s. GL


Hopefully, with our portfolio of R2R, Many Clouds and Silv Conti, we pretty much have the GC covered! ;)


So with only really the Irish Henessey to go as a real Gold Cup trial, our portfolio looks to be in as good a position as it can be, with the first three favourites and some amazing value.


Silviniaco Conti, advised as a double @20-1, now best priced 3-1

Road to Riches, advised at 25-1, now 8-1

Many Clouds, some of us have vouchers at 90s down, now best priced 10-1


Not bad for a free service!



Today is a massive day in Ireland.

I said to bobby1 last night, I was amazed at the price of Clarcam in the Irish Arkle. As the victor over Vautour, I suspected he would be clear second fav. I am not yet convinced by Un de Sceaux and 9/2 looks v big.

I fancy today could be the day could be the day, Jezki overturns The Fly in Ireland, with his progression towards the Festival being stepped up and the drying ground, it seems sacrilege to oppose The Fly, but there we go.

I am also hoping to see Windsor Park progress in the Novices, to hopefully step up to the Neptune.

Over at Sedge, I like Rose over the Moon, who ran a cracker in the Roland Meyrick on the back of some poor efforts. 12s look nice.


All from me for a few weeks as Sunny Florida beckons.

Be lucky chaps.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 25, 2015, 12:36:08 PM
I'd worry about your state of mind, because I thought much the same, and backed Clarcam last night...


Have a good holiday, and I'll collect my prezzie in Birmingham ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 25, 2015, 02:17:26 PM
Holy Horseshit.

Now I'm convinced!


Clarcam didn't touch a twig and didn't get near him!

11/8 betfair.

Done.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 25, 2015, 02:18:04 PM
Now that is a serious piece of kit!

Champion Chase winner 2016 then...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 25, 2015, 03:22:40 PM
Oppose Hurricane Fly at you peril at Leopardstown.

What a fighter.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 25, 2015, 03:23:55 PM
Oppose Hurricane Fly at you peril at Leopardstown.

What a fighter.

 ;bigadz;



Just a superstar. Amzaing performance


Not Ralph, obv.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 25, 2015, 03:25:08 PM
Oppose Hurricane Fly at you peril at Leopardstown.

What a fighter.

Looked bang under it 4 from home, and pulls out stacks!

Shame that McCoy messed up the last for the 2nd time today...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 25, 2015, 03:26:33 PM
Oppose Hurricane Fly at you peril at Leopardstown.

What a fighter.

Looked bang under it 4 from home, and pulls out stacks!

Shame that McCoy messed up the last for the 2nd time today...

I don't think Jezki had any chance even if he'd pinged the last today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 25, 2015, 03:31:40 PM
Oppose Hurricane Fly at you peril at Leopardstown.

What a fighter.

Looked bang under it 4 from home, and pulls out stacks!

Shame that McCoy messed up the last for the 2nd time today...

I don't think Jezki had any chance even if he'd pinged the last today.

That's why it's a shame that he did :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on January 25, 2015, 03:34:57 PM
7/1 Looks big?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8NDWFpCAAEEvtM.png)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 25, 2015, 03:35:22 PM
He looked beat, but when McCoy gets going, I wouldn't write anything off. Made that mistake enough times.


I hope Ruby doesn't get emotional and desert Faugheen.

12ish for the 3 Mullins favs to win first 3 on the Tuesday. Tempting


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 25, 2015, 03:42:20 PM
7/1 Looks big?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8NDWFpCAAEEvtM.png)

Can't imagine it will shorten anymore between now and Cheltenham, so probably best waiting, and hoping that it buckets down just before the Tuesday.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 25, 2015, 03:44:34 PM
7/1 Looks big?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8NDWFpCAAEEvtM.png)

HF definitely needs soft going to have a decent chance to win at Chelts imo.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on January 25, 2015, 03:48:10 PM
7/1 Looks big?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8NDWFpCAAEEvtM.png)

Can't imagine it will shorten anymore between now and Cheltenham, so probably best waiting, and hoping that it buckets down just before the Tuesday.

Disagree with this.

If Ruby chooses Hurricane he'll be far shorter.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 25, 2015, 03:50:16 PM
7/1 Looks big?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8NDWFpCAAEEvtM.png)

Can't imagine it will shorten anymore between now and Cheltenham, so probably best waiting, and hoping that it buckets down just before the Tuesday.

Disagree with this.

If Ruby chooses Hurricane he'll be far shorter.

He won't choose until the very last minute.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 25, 2015, 03:50:37 PM
What odds he chooses The Fly though you think, Marky/Keith?


Can't see anything other than Faugheen, unless its injured or totally bottomless.

The wait is out of respect, I reckon.

Townend must be licking his lips!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 25, 2015, 03:51:40 PM
What odds he chooses The Fly though you think, either/both of you?

Is it 48 hours before the race they make final decs?

I'd guess that he takes Faugheen, unless it's heavy, and not looking like improving.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 25, 2015, 03:57:53 PM
What odds he chooses The Fly though you think, either/both of you?

I would be surprised if he deserts The Fly as he'll only run on minimum G/S.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on January 25, 2015, 04:00:57 PM
What odds he chooses The Fly though you think, either/both of you?

I think Faugheen is the probably the easier ride, so maybe Mullins will lean on Ruby to ride the Fly as he gets on so well for him.

Although Ruby might be more tempted to ride the jolly as the owner has such a galaxy of stars.

Tough to say maybe 60:40 he rides Faugheen.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on January 25, 2015, 04:04:38 PM
I knew of Rich Ricci when he was at Barclays capital.

Made gazillions, obsceenely so even by the standards of the pre-credit crunch days and then his star fell dramatically when he was pushed out, a bit of a poster boy for the corporate excesses of the time

i gather a lot of the Mullins horses are his

where would Mullins be without him? a decent trainer, or a star trainer?

they all need the firepower right?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 25, 2015, 04:08:30 PM
What odds he chooses The Fly though you think, either/both of you?

I think Faugheen is the probably the easier ride, so maybe Mullins will lean on Ruby to ride the Fly as he gets on so well for him.

Although Ruby might be more tempted to ride the jolly as the owner has such a galaxy of stars.

Tough to say maybe 60:40 he rides Faugheen.


Interesting.

Townend has ridden The Fly 7 times before and won on him 6 times, so I would actually say the argument is the opposite.

The last time Townend rode a Ricci superstar, he lost Vautours unbeaten record.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 25, 2015, 04:22:36 PM
I knew of Rich Ricci when he was at Barclays capital.

Made gazillions, obsceenely so even by the standards of the pre-credit crunch days and then his star fell dramatically when he was pushed out, a bit of a poster boy for the corporate excesses of the time

i gather a lot of the Mullins horses are his

where would Mullins be without him? a decent trainer, or a star trainer?

they all need the firepower right?

He was Ireland's star NH trainer before Ricci started taking horses to him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 25, 2015, 04:23:46 PM
What odds he chooses The Fly though you think, either/both of you?

Is it 48 hours before the race they make final decs?

I'd guess that he takes Faugheen, unless it's heavy, and not looking like improving.

Walsh said that he would decide 3 days before the race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 25, 2015, 04:27:51 PM
What odds he chooses The Fly though you think, either/both of you?

I think Faugheen is the probably the easier ride, so maybe Mullins will lean on Ruby to ride the Fly as he gets on so well for him.

Although Ruby might be more tempted to ride the jolly as the owner has such a galaxy of stars.

Tough to say maybe 60:40 he rides Faugheen.

Can get 5/1 on him riding the Fly, with PP.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 25, 2015, 04:37:03 PM
What odds he chooses The Fly though you think, either/both of you?

I think Faugheen is the probably the easier ride, so maybe Mullins will lean on Ruby to ride the Fly as he gets on so well for him.

Although Ruby might be more tempted to ride the jolly as the owner has such a galaxy of stars.

Tough to say maybe 60:40 he rides Faugheen.

Can get 5/1 on him riding the Fly, with PP.


That's about how I would price it. Sentiment won't make up for watching Faugheen trotting past him down the chute with the Blue riband round his neck! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 25, 2015, 05:00:21 PM
What odds he chooses The Fly though you think, either/both of you?

I think Faugheen is the probably the easier ride, so maybe Mullins will lean on Ruby to ride the Fly as he gets on so well for him.

Although Ruby might be more tempted to ride the jolly as the owner has such a galaxy of stars.

Tough to say maybe 60:40 he rides Faugheen.

Can get 5/1 on him riding the Fly, with PP.


That's about how I would price it. Sentiment won't make up for watching Faugheen trotting past him down the chute with the Blue riband round his neck! ;)

I just hope Mullins wins the Arkle/JLT/Champ/Mares :)

Had to bin my 40/1 double on Vautour/Faugheen though...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on January 25, 2015, 05:14:22 PM
What odds he chooses The Fly though you think, either/both of you?

I think Faugheen is the probably the easier ride, so maybe Mullins will lean on Ruby to ride the Fly as he gets on so well for him.

Although Ruby might be more tempted to ride the jolly as the owner has such a galaxy of stars.

Tough to say maybe 60:40 he rides Faugheen.


Interesting.

Townend has ridden The Fly 7 times before and won on him 6 times, so I would actually say the argument is the opposite.

The last time Townend rode a Ricci superstar, he lost Vautours unbeaten record.

That is a surprising stat.

I had no idea Townend had ridden him so often.

Still, 5/1 looks massive Ruby rides him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on January 26, 2015, 06:32:06 PM
Any of the Racing GURU's want to come and mix it with the Dogs guys?!?

SPAM!

Reminder just 24 hours till Sky Dogs and a predicted £500,000 Jackpot.

I am estimating £500+ in our syndicate on Blonde so please get your name in if you want to be involved.

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=64760.30


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on January 29, 2015, 10:06:57 AM
Points update:
Profit       Amt Bet         ROI
-4.2pts   133pts   -3.16%

Hector Crouch looks to have a decent chance on Poppy Bond in 4.30 Apprentice H'cap at Southwell today will have 1pt win @ 9/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on February 01, 2015, 03:30:05 PM
Will have 1 pt e/w Sir Abbot @ 10-1 3.10 Punch. His second to Bentelimar looks even stronger after the latter won well in the 2.40 Punch today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2015, 02:17:08 PM
Ridic calling off tomorrow's jump meetings first thing this morning. It's all thawed within hours in the fens. CotC's buying in too heavily to the polar vortex shiz obv.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 03, 2015, 02:51:48 PM
Ridic calling off tomorrow's jump meetings first thing this morning. It's all thawed within hours in the fens. CotC's buying in too heavily to the polar vortex shiz obv.

Can't be too careful :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 04, 2015, 12:57:23 PM
 Dynaste has been ruled out for the season

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8_9pkdIUAENRu_.png)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 04, 2015, 01:18:06 PM
98 entries revealed for the Crabbie's Grand National on April 11 - full list available here http://bit.ly/1I03Phb 

any very early fancies or wait for the weights?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 04, 2015, 06:46:29 PM
Surely Sire de Grugy is a penalty kick in The Game Spirit on Saturday.

The evs with bsb looks like a gift to me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: KitKeeper on February 04, 2015, 07:09:39 PM
98 entries revealed for the Crabbie's Grand National on April 11 - full list available here http://bit.ly/1I03Phb 

any very early fancies or wait for the weights?

Very interested to see the weight given to Night in Milan...

Wanted to back it last year but never made it off the reserve list.

If it runs and the ground is good, 50s could look decent enough.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 04, 2015, 11:27:08 PM
Surely Sire de Grugy is a penalty kick in The Game Spirit on Saturday.

The evs with bsb looks like a gift to me.


My favourite horse, but first time out after an injury, I'm happy enough to watch him hose up unbacked...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on February 06, 2015, 05:45:17 PM
Schweppes tomorrow. Usual puzzle but the front two of Nicholls and Fry look too short and with five places available I've had an EW bet on Aso. Won its last two and off the same mark as Calipto ans Activial with the penalty but it's Aso's third to Caracci Apache back in December that interested me more. Beaten four lengths conceding six pounds looks pretty good after Caracci's win over Blaklion over a longer trip the other day.
I can't have this a 25-1 shot, more 14s, 16s.
Comments welcome. GL.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 07, 2015, 01:17:45 AM
"The Schweppes" brings back memories of Ryan Price and Josh Gifford.

Hill House was one that trotted up for them amid a major furore.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on February 07, 2015, 11:19:56 AM
I am off to Uttox races today with friends.  If anyone has anything can they pm me or post on here.  Cheers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 07, 2015, 06:38:56 PM
After a pretty awful day I thought that Arzal had got me out of it on the racing when it was called 5th on the ch4 commentary, but lo and behold after my afternoon siesta it has actually come 6th.

Even Richard bloody Hoiles has got it in for me today :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on February 08, 2015, 10:35:09 AM

Surprised to see no mention of McCoy's retirement.

His record suggests we'll not see the like of him again in our lifetime.

He has ridden over 4,000 winners, & been Champion Jockey for 19 years on the bounce, beating the previous record of 7.

He is as pre-eminent in NH as Phil Taylor in Darts, a freak of statistics.

I don't follow racing closely these days, but from what I know, he has kept his nose clean most of his career, & if he was on your horse, you knew he'd give it as good a chance as anyone could.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_McCoy


I recall in Piggott's latter years, regretting I never watched the great man more than I did, same applies to McCoy.



 
(http://exclusivesportsmedia.tv/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Tony-McCoy.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on February 08, 2015, 10:41:18 AM


He made his decision known immediately after - once again - riding 200 winners in a season - he'd obviously made that decision a while ago, & held back the news until # 200 was under his belt.

Seemed reasonable enough to me, & from my distant armchair, he seems a decent enough bloke.

Was quite surprised to see Mr Camel Tweet this....


Never thought AP would go for this ego massaging farewell tour. Expected he'd jump off a winner one day and say "that's it, I'm finished"

Seems a bit harsh to me - if ever a sportsman deserved a decent farewell, surely it's McCoy. He has contractual committments to Owners & Trainers, & carrying on until April does not seem unreasonable to me.

Is there a side to McCoy I'm blind to?

Not having a pop at His Camel-Ness, but McCoy never struck me as someone who needs his ego massaged. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 08, 2015, 12:48:38 PM
I've only gotten into racing over the last 4/5 years, but nothing that I'm aware of.

I could understand if it was Taylor, who had done the same in darts...

Likewise, he doesn't strike me as someone who needs his ego massaged.

Twitter might have been quiet yesterday afternoon, and Keith wanted to liven things up :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on February 08, 2015, 12:58:37 PM
I've only gotten into racing over the last 4/5 years, but nothing that I'm aware of.

I could understand if it was Taylor, who had done the same in darts...

Likewise, he doesn't strike me as someone who needs his ego massaged.

Twitter might have been quiet yesterday afternoon, and Keith wanted to liven things up :D


I just find blonde hard to fathom sometimes. Not dissing anyone, but more trying to understand the psychology of it.

This is a Racing Thread, lots of folks read it. The greatest NH jockey of our time, arguably even ever, especially as to longevity & success, retires, & not a soul says a word.

I know it's a punting thread, yes, but I don't want punt on horses without having a feel for the characters in the game. Same in golf, darts, whatever, the punting is secondary, it's getting to "know" the characters that interests me.

Guess I'm an oddbod.

I honestly expected the thread to be full of tributes to The Great Man. He's helped many of us win a few bob, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 08, 2015, 01:26:57 PM
I've only gotten into racing over the last 4/5 years, but nothing that I'm aware of.

I could understand if it was Taylor, who had done the same in darts...

Likewise, he doesn't strike me as someone who needs his ego massaged.

Twitter might have been quiet yesterday afternoon, and Keith wanted to liven things up :D


I just find blonde hard to fathom sometimes. Not dissing anyone, but more trying to understand the psychology of it.

This is a Racing Thread, lots of folks read it. The greatest NH jockey of our time, arguably even ever, especially as to longevity & success, retires, & not a soul says a word.

I know it's a punting thread, yes, but I don't want punt on horses without having a feel for the characters in the game. Same in golf, darts, whatever, the punting is secondary, it's getting to "know" the characters that interests me.

Guess I'm an oddbod.

I honestly expected the thread to be full of tributes to The Great Man. He's helped many of us win a few bob, too.

I was busy knocking it in getting the lot, obv ;)

I actually posted about the jockey title next year, and about Dickie Johnson being chuffed.

I don't think it's Blonde, as such, more fora, and I definitely wouldn't think that it says anything about Blonde itself.

If it makes you feel better, I did tweet 'GG McCoy, you had the greatest run', or something similar ;D


Contrary to the made us a few bob. You'll likely have done your bollocks if you've followed him, because his horses are invariably too short.

There is also Jonjo's handbrake to contend with, too  ;scarymoment;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: edgascoigne on February 08, 2015, 01:31:55 PM
Man is an absolute institution. Living proof of the importance of hard work and dedication in achieving success. Also the absolute single-mindedness that sits between obsession/'motivation' that is necessary to become a true and enduring great at anything.

Unbelievable work ethic, and a feat that won't ever be even close to repeated.

On a side note, I fancy Festive Affair is a plot for this year's festival...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 08, 2015, 01:32:08 PM
i remember some of these

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/feb/07/dont-push-it-grand-national-tony-mcoy-10-greatest-rides

it is said no one else could have won on this

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flJ7XOWWFrM


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 08, 2015, 01:36:50 PM
Great work ethic great determination e.t.c

What has probably soured it for some has been the partnership with JP, there have been various stopping jobs the past few seasons in particular and that grates me when every single time in racing media he is referred to "always strong" "always trying" and various other bits of hyperbole.

He is no different to most other jockeys in that regards but they often don't get the praise and sometimes even get criticism for their "lesser efforts" were as AP never would.

The fact his owner single handedly keeps a number of jumps yards profitable and you could even argue lesser jumps racing in action afloat is a big factor in this.

Summary

Good jockey, great work ethic and a great determination to win but not every ride of every day and such rubbish i have read this morning.





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 08, 2015, 02:39:37 PM
I've only gotten into racing over the last 4/5 years, but nothing that I'm aware of.

I could understand if it was Taylor, who had done the same in darts...

Likewise, he doesn't strike me as someone who needs his ego massaged.

Twitter might have been quiet yesterday afternoon, and Keith wanted to liven things up :D


I just find blonde hard to fathom sometimes. Not dissing anyone, but more trying to understand the psychology of it.

This is a Racing Thread, lots of folks read it. The greatest NH jockey of our time, arguably even ever, especially as to longevity & success, retires, & not a soul says a word.

I know it's a punting thread, yes, but I don't want punt on horses without having a feel for the characters in the game. Same in golf, darts, whatever, the punting is secondary, it's getting to "know" the characters that interests me.

Guess I'm an oddbod.

I honestly expected the thread to be full of tributes to The Great Man. He's helped many of us win a few bob, too.

You don't really think that a level stake on all of his rides would show a profit do you Tony?


Great jockey undoubtedly but not exactly a lovable character as compared to someone like John Francome who was/is both.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 08, 2015, 02:49:20 PM
i was interested to see he has only 3 years where backing everything to levels takes would have shown you a profit, and thats with him winning on 22-30% of his rides most years

http://www.racingpost.com/horses/jockey_home.sd?jockey_id=9482#topJockTabs=jockey_stats_summary&bottomJockTabs=jockey_form



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 08, 2015, 04:37:00 PM
Wins his first Hennessy, on his last ride, you couldn't make it up!

Great ride, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on February 08, 2015, 04:58:04 PM
Highly professional, dedicated , obsessive &c but not the subject of anecdotes like Lester even/especially by those who disliked him. So the less attractive aspects of the JP and the Martin Pipe relationships aren't even redeemed by eccentricity or whatever.
A dessicated winning machine like AP is the last person you'd have predicted orchestrating a Hollywood finale. There's a film crew following him around for a documentary, Tikay.
The psychology of it? I guess profitable horse betters like The Camel and Horseplayer are, by definition, unsentimental.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on February 08, 2015, 06:11:16 PM
He hasn't chucked many with 4000 winners.  Guess if you look hard enough you can find something to have a swipe at, but life is too short to be spending time looking.

Think he's earned his standing ovation.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: swinebag22 on February 08, 2015, 09:00:11 PM
"The McCoy Factor" probably means his rides are rarely overpriced so its no surprise he runs at a loss at level stakes


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 08, 2015, 09:31:36 PM
Just have to laugh at anyone that says McCoy is just a "good" jockey.

He has spent many of the last 20+ seasons riding many horses of moderate ability and isn't blessed being being given handpicked stables of premium purchases like Walsh/Geraghty/Twiston-Davies.

He has been grafting in sellers in June whilst Ruby et al sit on the beach in the Caribbean, and as Doobs says, you don't ride 4000 winners by being a serial "stopper". Ridic statement.

If McCoy has a chance, he will take it, and whilst I would agree that if he can't win, I have seen him pull up a horse easier/quicker, than say, a Dickie Johnson would, but that is part of the JP/Jonjo methodology. I have never seen him stop a horse that could have won that day. Yes, there may not be much value in backing McCoy and for the first ten years of his winning title, I would often pass over his mounts, much to my cost. Value smalue. Better a shorter price winner than another loser!

Over the last few years we have all seen and noted winning rides that only McCoy could have pulled off, his strength in the saddle is incredible. When he is on the horses of quality, he looks equally stylish to the Walshs of this world.

In his early days he was always intense and almost rude. Having met him on many occasions when he has ridden for Brooky, you realise he is actually a very shy bloke, and has worked hard to adapt to the person he is now.

I am sure Camel is just up to his usual and understands that by announcing his retirement McCoy and his team have probably a two fold strategy.

He has stated many times, he doesn't want to train, so he needs to plan for the future. Announcing his intentions early mean he can have all the offers of TV work etc ready and in place for when he does stop. I suspect if he got to the end and had nothing on the table, that's when the temptation is to carry on.
Secondly, as a proud man of principle, by going on a farewell tour, he is almost obliged to retire.

My abiding memory of him will be of a day a couple of years ago when I was on duty for Roger at Chepstow, when they had a hottie running at Kempton. McCoy was riding Dream Esteem for us and I was in a lot of pain from the dialysis treatment I was having and was due to have my transplant a week or so later. When hearing this MCCoy said he best try extra hard so I had the winners photo to cheer me up over the next few weeks. He rode a pearler and that photo still cheers me up to this day.

A true gent and a proper sporting great.



Apols to those who have sent me PM's last couple of weeks, I'm still Stateside, and not bothered logging on until now. GL all.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Skippy on February 08, 2015, 10:43:48 PM
To be fair to the Camel, he later tweeted that he wasn't having a dig at McCoy, just thought he'd be more the kind of bloke to say I'm off on the last day rather than do a farewell tour.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on February 08, 2015, 10:58:50 PM
I've lost more that I have won backing AP but you can't help but admire the guy for hs achievements. 

He'll be a real loss to the game. 

I'm sure whatever he turns his hand to next he'll be just as successful. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on February 08, 2015, 11:22:11 PM
Man is an absolute institution. Living proof of the importance of hard work and dedication in achieving success. Also the absolute single-mindedness that sits between obsession/'motivation' that is necessary to become a true and enduring great at anything.

Unbelievable work ethic, and a feat that won't ever be even close to repeated.

On a side note, I fancy Festive Affair is a plot for this year's festival...

+1.  What an era we have had in sport in the last 10/15 years.  Tiger/Fed/AP/Taylor/Ronnie/Messi/Ronaldo.  The list just is huge of all time greats in their sports doing thing that will never be seen again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: rfgqqabc on February 09, 2015, 01:21:23 AM
Man is an absolute institution. Living proof of the importance of hard work and dedication in achieving success. Also the absolute single-mindedness that sits between obsession/'motivation' that is necessary to become a true and enduring great at anything.

Unbelievable work ethic, and a feat that won't ever be even close to repeated.

On a side note, I fancy Festive Affair is a plot for this year's festival...

+1.  What an era we have had in sport in the last 10/15 years.  Tiger/Fed/AP/Taylor/Ronnie/Messi/Ronaldo.  The list just is huge of all time greats in their sports doing thing that will never be seen again.

Humans just keep getting faster, fitter, stronger. We've not peaked yet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on February 09, 2015, 01:39:14 AM
He hasn't chucked many with 4000 winners.  Guess if you look hard enough you can find something to have a swipe at, but life is too short to be spending time looking.

Think he's earned his standing ovation.
7

Very much this for me, I rarely bet anything just coz he is on it but I've enjoyed watching him work for so many years it will be a sad day when he finishes. I just hope he gets to the end fit and well.

Wichita Lineman and Mountain Tunes my two fav rides.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on February 09, 2015, 01:40:13 AM
Just have to laugh at anyone that says McCoy is just a "good" jockey.

He has spent many of the last 20+ seasons riding many horses of moderate ability and isn't blessed being being given handpicked stables of premium purchases like Walsh/Geraghty/Twiston-Davies.

He has been grafting in sellers in June whilst Ruby et al sit on the beach in the Caribbean, and as Doobs says, you don't ride 4000 winners by being a serial "stopper". Ridic statement.

If McCoy has a chance, he will take it, and whilst I would agree that if he can't win, I have seen him pull up a horse easier/quicker, than say, a Dickie Johnson would, but that is part of the JP/Jonjo methodology. I have never seen him stop a horse that could have won that day. Yes, there may not be much value in backing McCoy and for the first ten years of his winning title, I would often pass over his mounts, much to my cost. Value smalue. Better a shorter price winner than another loser!

Over the last few years we have all seen and noted winning rides that only McCoy could have pulled off, his strength in the saddle is incredible. When he is on the horses of quality, he looks equally stylish to the Walshs of this world.

In his early days he was always intense and almost rude. Having met him on many occasions when he has ridden for Brooky, you realise he is actually a very shy bloke, and has worked hard to adapt to the person he is now.

I am sure Camel is just up to his usual and understands that by announcing his retirement McCoy and his team have probably a two fold strategy.

He has stated many times, he doesn't want to train, so he needs to plan for the future. Announcing his intentions early mean he can have all the offers of TV work etc ready and in place for when he does stop. I suspect if he got to the end and had nothing on the table, that's when the temptation is to carry on.
Secondly, as a proud man of principle, by going on a farewell tour, he is almost obliged to retire.

My abiding memory of him will be of a day a couple of years ago when I was on duty for Roger at Chepstow, when they had a hottie running at Kempton. McCoy was riding Dream Esteem for us and I was in a lot of pain from the dialysis treatment I was having and was due to have my transplant a week or so later. When hearing this MCCoy said he best try extra hard so I had the winners photo to cheer me up over the next few weeks. He rode a pearler and that photo still cheers me up to this day.

A true gent and a proper sporting great.



Apols to those who have sent me PM's last couple of weeks, I'm still Stateside, and not bothered logging on until now. GL all.

Great story that bud


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on February 09, 2015, 04:46:46 AM
Serious question
If McCoy so good, why didn't he have his pick of the rides


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on February 09, 2015, 08:47:55 AM
To be fair to the Camel, he later tweeted that he wasn't having a dig at McCoy, just thought he'd be more the kind of bloke to say I'm off on the last day rather than do a farewell tour.

I never saw Camel's subsequent Tweet, but "ego-massaging" was the part that caught my eye. What little I know of McCoy suggests that's the last thing he needs, & not why he announced as & when he did.

My whole point, really, is that it is rare that we see such dedication, talent & longevity on a sportsman, especially in such a fearfully dangerous sport as NH racing. Such a man deserves total respect, imo.

We don't see many people who are so pre-eminent in their sport. I guess, at my age, I've seen a few (Ali, Terry Payne, Woods, Phil Taylor, Joey Dunlop, Piggott, McCoy etc) & I alwys wish I'd bothered to watch them more when they were active. Once they are done, thats it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on February 09, 2015, 08:52:01 AM
Serious question
If McCoy so good, why didn't he have his pick of the rides

He had extremely lucrative Contractual committments, so he was not always free to "pick his rides".

I would have thought any Owner or Trainer would prefer McCoy over almost anyone else given the choice & chance. But many Yards contract a regular "first Jockey", so its not as straightforward as you suggest.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on February 09, 2015, 09:07:06 AM


Most of the newspapers have printed tributes to McCoy yesteday or today, which, by their nature, are a bit sugar coated, but you'll have seen them.

For a left-field view, I spotted this on "Digital Spy".



2So, a grown up who sits on big animals and makes them run round a field faster than others, with the help of hitting it regularly, has decided it's time to stop.
Big f u c king deal."


Not sure what a man has to do to earn respect these days.

Anyone who has stood by a fence during a NH Chase knows how incredibly brave NH jockeys are. Can't be that many sports more dangerous, & where legs, arms & head are less protected from crashing falls & flying hooves.

Big f u c king deal


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on February 09, 2015, 11:01:03 AM
Man is an absolute institution. Living proof of the importance of hard work and dedication in achieving success. Also the absolute single-mindedness that sits between obsession/'motivation' that is necessary to become a true and enduring great at anything.

Unbelievable work ethic, and a feat that won't ever be even close to repeated.

On a side note, I fancy Festive Affair is a plot for this year's festival...

+1.  What an era we have had in sport in the last 10/15 years.  Tiger/Fed/AP/Taylor/Ronnie/Messi/Ronaldo.  The list just is huge of all time greats in their sports doing thing that will never be seen again.

Humans just keep getting faster, fitter, stronger. We've not peaked yet.

I would strongly suggest that no one in our lifetime will do what the above guys have done.  Just because humans are getting stronger and faster doesn't mean the skills sets and drive of the players above will appear again any time soon.  Guys who make their sport looks effortlessly simple at the very top level week in week out for years.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 09, 2015, 12:55:19 PM


Most of the newspapers have printed tributes to McCoy yesteday or today, which, by their nature, are a bit sugar coated, but you'll have seen them.

For a left-field view, I spotted this on "Digital Spy".



2So, a grown up who sits on big animals and makes them run round a field faster than others, with the help of hitting it regularly, has decided it's time to stop.
Big f u c king deal."


Not sure what a man has to do to earn respect these days.

Anyone who has stood by a fence during a NH Chase knows how incredibly brave NH jockeys are. Can't be that many sports more dangerous, & where legs, arms & head are less protected from crashing falls & flying hooves.

Big f u c king deal

It's Digital Spy, so they'd love him if he had won the X-Factor!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 09, 2015, 01:25:14 PM
Digital spy commenting on a sporting icon is much like me commenting on anorexia.

Interesting to note this features in Tikay reading material though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 09, 2015, 01:37:32 PM
Digital spy commenting on a sporting icon is much like me commenting on anorexia.

Interesting to note this features in Tikay reading material though.

;D


Come on, get tapping, we want some more racecourse jolly tales!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: NigDawG on February 09, 2015, 10:34:10 PM
my dad took me to my first festival back in the year 2000. we'd travelled up 7am on the train and we'd had a bet on edredon bleu in the queen mother chase...

http://youtu.be/eJHDivrhtRE

i don't know how he did it, but he did. i re-watch this race about this time of year, every year, and it still gives me goosebumps. the sport will miss mccoy in the saddle and so will i.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 09, 2015, 11:02:32 PM
my dad took me to my first festival back in the year 2000. we'd travelled up 7am on the train and we'd had a bet on edredon bleu in the queen mother chase...

http://youtu.be/eJHDivrhtRE

i don't know how he did it, but he did. i re-watch this race about this time of year, every year, and it still gives me goosebumps. the sport will miss mccoy in the saddle and so will i.

Never seen that before, what a race!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on February 09, 2015, 11:24:05 PM
my dad took me to my first festival back in the year 2000. we'd travelled up 7am on the train and we'd had a bet on edredon bleu in the queen mother chase...

http://youtu.be/eJHDivrhtRE

i don't know how he did it, but he did. i re-watch this race about this time of year, every year, and it still gives me goosebumps. the sport will miss mccoy in the saddle and so will i.

Never seen that before, what a race!

Witcha lineman the best for me at chelt 2009 I think. Huge gamble on the day went off incredibly short and ended up laying it myself to some mates I was at chelt with.  Just typical McCoy powered it home from an impossible position and sent the punters home happy.

Johnson has been put in 10/11 for next years jockeys title.  He must be the unluckiest sportsman alive to have run into ap for his whole career.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on February 10, 2015, 02:03:08 AM
my dad took me to my first festival back in the year 2000. we'd travelled up 7am on the train and we'd had a bet on edredon bleu in the queen mother chase...

http://youtu.be/eJHDivrhtRE

i don't know how he did it, but he did. i re-watch this race about this time of year, every year, and it still gives me goosebumps. the sport will miss mccoy in the saddle and so will i.

I had forgotten that ride, it's just superb.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on February 10, 2015, 08:12:44 AM
my dad took me to my first festival back in the year 2000. we'd travelled up 7am on the train and we'd had a bet on edredon bleu in the queen mother chase...

http://youtu.be/eJHDivrhtRE

i don't know how he did it, but he did. i re-watch this race about this time of year, every year, and it still gives me goosebumps. the sport will miss mccoy in the saddle and so will i.

Just watched that - even knowing the result, hard to believe he was going to win as they ran up the hill after the last & he was headed 100 yards from the line.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 10, 2015, 12:20:42 PM
Had seen the Wichita Lineman, which was amazing, too.

my dad took me to my first festival back in the year 2000. we'd travelled up 7am on the train and we'd had a bet on edredon bleu in the queen mother chase...

http://youtu.be/eJHDivrhtRE

i don't know how he did it, but he did. i re-watch this race about this time of year, every year, and it still gives me goosebumps. the sport will miss mccoy in the saddle and so will i.

Just watched that - even knowing the result, hard to believe he was going to win as they ran up the hill after the last & he was headed 100 yards from the line.



Had to watch it again to make sure they hadn't gotten it wrong ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 10, 2015, 12:48:51 PM
Had seen the Wichita Lineman, which was amazing, too.

my dad took me to my first festival back in the year 2000. we'd travelled up 7am on the train and we'd had a bet on edredon bleu in the queen mother chase...

http://youtu.be/eJHDivrhtRE

i don't know how he did it, but he did. i re-watch this race about this time of year, every year, and it still gives me goosebumps. the sport will miss mccoy in the saddle and so will i.

Just watched that - even knowing the result, hard to believe he was going to win as they ran up the hill after the last & he was headed 100 yards from the line.



Had to watch it again to make sure they hadn't gotten it wrong ;D

I reckon the 1.01 thieves would have taken a right pasting that day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 10, 2015, 04:48:50 PM
Had seen the Wichita Lineman, which was amazing, too.

my dad took me to my first festival back in the year 2000. we'd travelled up 7am on the train and we'd had a bet on edredon bleu in the queen mother chase...

http://youtu.be/eJHDivrhtRE

i don't know how he did it, but he did. i re-watch this race about this time of year, every year, and it still gives me goosebumps. the sport will miss mccoy in the saddle and so will i.

Just watched that - even knowing the result, hard to believe he was going to win as they ran up the hill after the last & he was headed 100 yards from the line.



Had to watch it again to make sure they hadn't gotten it wrong ;D

I reckon the 1.01 thieves would have taken a right pasting that day.

Can't beat a bit of 1.01 carnage  :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: treefella on February 11, 2015, 11:18:33 AM
No Jockey has come close to him imo for determination and the will to win. Many a time he has got up to win when looking to be well beaten a few furlongs from the winning line whereby most jockeys just throw the towel in or save the horse for another day.
Some would say that he's not the horseman like Ruby Walsh or the great Jonn Francome. I certainly remember in his early riding years  the negative comments McCoy would get from the media for giving horses a hard time in a finish.
Paul Nicholls was devastated when he lost McCoy as stable jockey to Martin Pipe , clearly the correct decision for his riding career and an opportunity he just could not pass up, but i know Nicholls still harbours a grudge to Pipe senior to this day.
 
I for one will be sad to see him hang his boots up as he is still at the top of his game, but i wish him well in the future and thank you Mr McCoy for Eredon Bleu !


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on February 11, 2015, 03:19:06 PM
Not a horse as such, but had a little word that QPR's new full time manager will be Paul Clement come the end of the season. Fernandes Tweets set the speculation off yesterday, and a friend of mine, a former Journo at the BBC and a lifelong QPR season ticketholder, who now has his own sports publication and is normally very astute, is under the impression that Rangers are very close to agreeing for life long QPR fan Clement to be given his first post in British Football once a deal has been arranged with Real Madrid. The 10/1 was snapped up earlier, But 6/1 still widely available. Well worth a dabble in my opinion, but you all know how these managerial merry go rounds work.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 11, 2015, 06:51:56 PM
Not a horse as such, but had a little word that QPR's new full time manager will be Paul Clement come the end of the season. Fernandes Tweets set the speculation off yesterday, and a friend of mine, a former Journo at the BBC and a lifelong QPR season ticketholder, who now has his own sports publication and is normally very astute, is under the impression that Rangers are very close to agreeing for life long QPR fan Clement to be given his first post in British Football once a deal has been arranged with Real Madrid. The 10/1 was snapped up earlier, But 6/1 still widely available. Well worth a dabble in my opinion, but you all know how these managerial merry go rounds work.

Dodgy to get involved, in case it is 'end of the season'...

Anyway, I think you wanted this thread, Freddie.

 http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=61505.0

;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 11, 2015, 06:55:43 PM
World Hurdle even more open than it was, with MoT out.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on February 11, 2015, 09:20:04 PM
Why won't Annie power go for world hurdle again?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 11, 2015, 09:23:37 PM
Why won't Annie power go for world hurdle again?

On the way back from an injury, but should win the mares without being 100% racefit.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 11, 2015, 09:39:08 PM
I'd imagine they're tempted, because Mullins has several other good mares.

Just not sure they'd want to throw the horse in at the deep end after such a long absence.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 12, 2015, 04:53:26 PM
Not a horse as such, but had a little word that QPR's new full time manager will be Paul Clement come the end of the season. Fernandes Tweets set the speculation off yesterday, and a friend of mine, a former Journo at the BBC and a lifelong QPR season ticketholder, who now has his own sports publication and is normally very astute, is under the impression that Rangers are very close to agreeing for life long QPR fan Clement to be given his first post in British Football once a deal has been arranged with Real Madrid. The 10/1 was snapped up earlier, But 6/1 still widely available. Well worth a dabble in my opinion, but you all know how these managerial merry go rounds work.

Hope you didn't do too much, mate :/

Well, unless you are on with Boyles, who won't settle on Ramsey.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on February 14, 2015, 07:11:54 AM
I don't know anything about horses, I like horse racing, I like Bobs worth.
Bobs worth crushes at Cheltenham, Conti has never won at Cheltenham.
Why the big difference in prices?
They both fucked around at the end of the race last year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on February 14, 2015, 08:52:23 AM
I don't know anything about horses, I like horse racing, I like Bobs worth.
Bobs worth crushes at Cheltenham, Conti has never won at Cheltenham.
Why the big difference in prices?
They both fucked around at the end of the race last year.

Was reading this last night and should make interesting reading if you're contemplating backing: http://www.oddschecker.com/cheltenham-festival/tips/2015/old-boys-club
Obv stats speak against for win purposes and seems plausible that "Old favourites" get overbet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 16, 2015, 09:32:36 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEvz41C2aME

:D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 18, 2015, 04:38:41 PM
RIP Burton Port :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 18, 2015, 04:46:35 PM
RIP Burton Port :(



Sad indeed mate. Always promised so much. RIP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on February 18, 2015, 09:21:50 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEvz41C2aME

:D

That´s the best since he had his bankroll confiscated by Full Tilt. Hilarious!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on February 18, 2015, 09:53:39 PM
RIP Burton Port :(



Sad indeed mate. Always promised so much. RIP

terrible news. RIP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on February 20, 2015, 12:01:58 PM
.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 20, 2015, 12:51:06 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEvz41C2aME

:D

That´s the best since he had his bankroll confiscated by Full Tilt. Hilarious!

Made me laugh anyway ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 20, 2015, 12:52:34 PM
Butter me up must have gotten stung badly last year, because only Boyles are NRNB on anything outside of the Championship races.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 24, 2015, 10:42:53 AM
When you look at a horse's form in the RP and the prizemoney it has won, it lists Hurdles, 'Chases, NHF, Flat etc.

It also lists "Rules Races" often for quite considerable amounts.

What exactly are these Rules Races?

Here's an example:

www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_home.sd?race_id=598076&r_date=2015-03-12&horse_id=723488#topHorseTabs=horse_


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 24, 2015, 11:52:20 AM
When you look at a horse's form in the RP and the prizemoney it has won, it lists Hurdles, 'Chases, NHF, Flat etc.

It also lists "Rules Races" often for quite considerable amounts.

What exactly are these Rules Races?

Here's an example:

www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_home.sd?race_id=598076&r_date=2015-03-12&horse_id=723488#topHorseTabs=horse_


Looks like the two totals added together mate...... ;djinn;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 24, 2015, 12:30:12 PM
When you look at a horse's form in the RP and the prizemoney it has won, it lists Hurdles, 'Chases, NHF, Flat etc.

It also lists "Rules Races" often for quite considerable amounts.

What exactly are these Rules Races?

Here's an example:

www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_home.sd?race_id=598076&r_date=2015-03-12&horse_id=723488#topHorseTabs=horse_


Looks like the two totals added together mate...... ;djinn;

LDO  ;marks;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 12, 2015, 01:16:00 AM
I am hoping that we see the next Gold Cup winner today up at Carlisle :D, but I must confess I was very very taken by Road to Riches performance at Down Royal.

Ok, it was early season fare, but he ran them stupid at the end, and the further he goes the better he looks, with his jumping getting better than ever at the end.

He also lost a few lengths at many fences when jumping left. Not a problem at Cheltenham.

By close of play we shall have seen most of the protaganists and I have invested a bit ew on R2R at 25s. GL


Hopefully, with our portfolio of R2R, Many Clouds and Silv Conti, we pretty much have the GC covered! ;)


So with only really the Irish Henessey to go as a real Gold Cup trial, our portfolio looks to be in as good a position as it can be, with the first three favourites and some amazing value.


Silviniaco Conti, advised as a double @20-1, now best priced 3-1

Road to Riches, advised at 25-1, now 8-1

Many Clouds, some of us have vouchers at 90s down, now best priced 10-1


I am also hoping to see Windsor Park progress in the Novices, to hopefully step up to the Neptune.


Be lucky chaps.






I love it when a plan comes together!!! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 12, 2015, 09:32:38 AM
Good stuff!

I was hoping he would step up in trip for the Albert  :P


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on March 16, 2015, 02:03:50 PM
LEADING trainer Mark Johnston has hit out at the changes to the Flat jockeys' title, warning top riders will head overseas earlier than usual and potentially ride in Britain for only six months of the year.

Instead of running from March to November, the championship - and the one for owners - will now start on Guineas weekend at Newmarket in May and finish on Qipco British Champions Day at Ascot in October.

The new look was formally announced on Monday and the news fixtures such as the Betway Lincoln meeting at Doncaster and Newmarket's Craven meeting at the start of the Flat turf season, and the Racing Post Trophy and Betfred November Handicap at Doncaster will not be part of the new campaign has not gone down well with horsemen.

Jockey Luke Morris, known for his hard work and the number of rides he takes, said the period when the Flat season starts in March until Guineas weekend in May would be irrelevant and Lambourn trainer Jamie Osborne suggested it would complicate an already complicated system. His counterpart Brendan Powell described it as "madness".

Johnston is seemingly not a fan either and wrote on his website on Sunday about fixture clashes resulting in top jockeys missing important meetings.

He added on Monday morning: "So you can now brace yourself for the departure of our top jockeys, to sunnier, more lucrative, climes in early October. They may, or may not, return for the Craven meeting but you can take it that the majority will only ride in Britain for six months of the year. Another great idea from the folks at Racing For No Change."

Great British Racing, the promotional body that took over duties from Racing For Change, has been looking to make changes for some time and the Professional Jockeys Association supports the plans, which will include a prize for most wins in a calendar year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on March 16, 2015, 02:04:21 PM
^ utterly rtdd. Where do they get these ideas from?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on March 16, 2015, 04:40:36 PM
Perfect opportunity for guerrilla marketing here from a tabloid or one of the 'edgy' books. Tot up the score from the Lincoln to the November Handicap and award a 'Real', 'People's', whatever, jockeys' championship.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on March 16, 2015, 04:44:00 PM
Perfect opportunity for guerrilla marketing here from a tabloid or one of the 'edgy' books. Tot up the score from the Lincoln to the November Handicap and award a 'Real', 'People's', whatever, jockeys' championship.

Does anyone really give two shits about the jockeys title? (apart from R Hughes)

Racing is about individual events, not a load of little events leading up to winning an overall champion.

Ask any jockey whether they'd rather win the Derby or jockeys championship.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on March 16, 2015, 07:40:10 PM
Can be good for betting on, which is all that bothers me.

Shorter course won't make it any more competitive, though. Be less competitive if anything.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on March 17, 2015, 01:35:53 AM
Glens melody been retired
Does Mullins have another mare other than Annie to win that


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on March 17, 2015, 10:00:15 PM
When you look at a horse's form in the RP and the prizemoney it has won, it lists Hurdles, 'Chases, NHF, Flat etc.

It also lists "Rules Races" often for quite considerable amounts.

What exactly are these Rules Races?

Here's an example:

www.racingpost.com/horses/horse_home.sd?race_id=598076&r_date=2015-03-12&horse_id=723488#topHorseTabs=horse_

Total races competed in under rules excludes point to points


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on March 19, 2015, 04:53:21 PM
Short Notice chaps, and missed the value, but word is about for Rock Charm in the 610pm race at Chelmsford this evening. 5/2 still about but has been punted heavy all afternoon since word got out from 5/1. Its come from a shrewd racing Club, that have had 5 out of last 6 winners I  have been given over the last few months from them and subscribed myself recently. Good luck if you back it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 19, 2015, 04:59:47 PM
Short Notice chaps, and missed the value, but word is about for Rock Charm in the 610pm race at Chelmsford this evening. 5/2 still about but has been punted heavy all afternoon since word got out from 5/1. Its come from a shrewd racing Club, that have had 5 out of last 6 winners I  have been given over the last few months from them and subscribed myself recently. Good luck if you back it.

You sure you have the right horse, Freddie?

According to Oddschecker the horse has never been bigger than 5/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on March 19, 2015, 05:02:10 PM
Hey Marky

I got the message yesterday, but didn't even have a chance to look at it till today,(St Paddys Day hangover that I never ever want to see repeated in my life) and I got was 11/4. Maybe the boys meant it got out last night and the early was all taken before this morning. Been snowed under all day and dint even have a chance to look again or post till now.

Hopefully shoo in and pay for the damage Tuesday night did to my bank account!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 19, 2015, 05:43:53 PM
Ha, good luck!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on March 19, 2015, 07:01:05 PM
Watch out incase Larry pops by after that tip


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on March 20, 2015, 09:50:01 AM
Yes, it was complete tosh. Fingers well burnt, good job Cheltenham was very profitable for me personally. Apologies folks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on March 20, 2015, 10:30:08 AM
Yes, it was complete tosh. Fingers well burnt, good job Cheltenham was very profitable for me personally. Apologies folks.

Don't apologise mate, not saying racing is bent or anything but it's probably worth keeping an eye on it, strongly fancied by everyone, on paper seemed to have a decent chance, supported in the betting and happened to watch the race and it ran a bit of a stinker, probably hose up at 3/1 next time!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 20, 2015, 11:00:20 AM
Champagne Express runs today in the opener at Newbury. I think I posted about this horse on TfT, but I'm not massively advocating a bet at 5/4, so I'll stick it here.

A dear friend of mine has an eyelash of this horse as part of The Owners Group. Good bit of fun for what is basically a round of drinks. Ran very well last time out and looks like it could be the best of the Owners Group stable, as it were.

Henderson has entered CE for a number of races since its last win but has pulled out of each, having mentioned for a while that this race at Newbury should suit best.

Here's hoping!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 20, 2015, 02:39:44 PM
Yes, it was complete tosh. Fingers well burnt, good job Cheltenham was very profitable for me personally. Apologies folks.

Don't apologise mate, not saying racing is bent or anything but it's probably worth keeping an eye on it, strongly fancied by everyone, on paper seemed to have a decent chance, supported in the betting and happened to watch the race and it ran a bit of a stinker, probably hose up at 3/1 next time!!!

Horse racing bent? I hope not  ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 21, 2015, 12:08:53 PM
Had a small win bet on Benzanno 2.25 Bangor 7-1 with 888, think potentially well handicapped have been waiting for better ground. Course may suit front running tactics, apparently decent claimer can't hurt.
 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 21, 2015, 12:25:01 PM
I will add Storm Force Ten to this list.  Not a huge price but 2 selections away from a Lucky 15.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 23, 2015, 11:38:45 AM
Take it they're trying to get kids involved this year?

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEmKIT0s3xg


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 23, 2015, 02:27:03 PM
Here for your delectation/amusement are the horses I've backed today:

Hickster Wolverhampton 16:40
Tizlove Regardless Wolverhampton 16:10
Sleet Wolverhampton 14:05
Vodka n Tonic Taunton 16:20
Hickster Wolverhampton 16:40
The Outlaw Taunton 15:50
Yair Hill Wolverhampton 15:10

Bearing in mind it's a Monday and always seem to run terribly, stakes have been kept to a minimum.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 23, 2015, 02:42:36 PM
Sleet 9/4 fav, it never wins.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 23, 2015, 02:43:57 PM
Almost won, it did get there but never wants to put his nose in front.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 23, 2015, 02:46:12 PM
A little annoying, backed it last night. Usually back Hugh Taylor's horses, he put winner up at 22-1 - expensive hangover this morning meant i missed the price - had a saver at 12-1 though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 23, 2015, 02:50:28 PM
ATR guy just mentioned this guy, wasn't sure who you were referring to.  Quite a few horses backed down overnight. Mick Dundee was 20/1 into 10/3.  Not sure who was confident of taking 1.01 in-running on Sleet, yes it got a nose ahead just, but that was all.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 23, 2015, 03:33:36 PM
How much does anyone agree that a horse can have confidence issues? Hear it mentioned a lot by trainers/in commentary  eg won dropped down in class and restored his confidence.  Obv can understand confidence could be affected by a fall but not so sure otherwise?

Well, the theme of todays jumps horses was the sire Presenting on good ground, but felt She's Da One wasn't much value. Hopefully the others fare as well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 23, 2015, 03:49:07 PM
Not sure I can agree with the first part, dropped down in class and restored his confidence.  What about, the jockey/trainer decided to let the horse try and win today, restoring confidence  ;)  Do horses not go out and just want to run, some just won't put a head in front. (Sleet)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 23, 2015, 03:55:00 PM
Careful Simon, almost 2 clear aftertimes in 2 posts!! :D


I think the confidence thing is a combination of being back in the right grade, because the handicapper has dropped them, therefore allowing the horse the chance to win, not that the horse would know before hand!

I suspect, from stuff I have seen, horses know something different has happened when they win, to put it basically, everyone wants to pat them afterwards, give them carrots at stables etc, generally made more of a fuss of after winning. If they just coast in, from my experience, the owners chats to the jockey for 2 mins and bugger off, with not a thought, or moment spent with the horse. Must make a bit of difference to the horses general wellbeing, IMHO


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 23, 2015, 04:03:36 PM
The horse isn't aware of what grade he/she is in, If a horse does have confidence issues and this is healed from winning races what relevance does dropping grades have?  Horse in handicaps win at all sorts of different grade levels.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 23, 2015, 04:26:58 PM
The horse isn't aware of what grade he/she is in, If a horse does have confidence issues and this is healed from winning races what relevance does dropping grades have?  Horse in handicaps win at all sorts of different grade levels.


Not sure I have said the horse IS aware of being dropped in grade, have I????

I said as a result of being in the right grade, the horse has a chance to win, and then when it does, benefits from the perks of winning.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 23, 2015, 05:22:48 PM
I wonder if a horse knows it has just won a race? Do you not think you get these horses who just don't hit the front when they get there.  Trying to think of a horse from years ago, it's record was 22232223222, just refused to win.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on March 23, 2015, 07:11:14 PM
I wonder if a horse knows it has just won a race?

Don't see how they can,  unless they understand what the winning post means and where it is.

What I don't understand is why they don't get the serial losing horses to make the running if there is an opportunity?  Wouldn't that overcome the fear of being out on its own, if that is the problem?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 23, 2015, 07:58:18 PM
Agree,they don't know what the winning post is,once the winning horse passes the post it is then past by a bunch of horses before it comes to a halt. 

@Simon,your list of bets today.  I notice hickster was put down twice,was that a hint you were ultra confident(nap of the day),very clever.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on March 23, 2015, 10:49:55 PM
Here for your delectation/amusement are the horses I've backed today:

Hickster Wolverhampton 16:40
Tizlove Regardless Wolverhampton 16:10
Sleet Wolverhampton 14:05
Vodka n Tonic Taunton 16:20
Hickster Wolverhampton 16:40
The Outlaw Taunton 15:50
Yair Hill Wolverhampton 15:10

Bearing in mind it's a Monday and always seem to run terribly, stakes have been kept to a minimum.

Tizlove Regardless ran a stormer.

Drop it back a little more in trip annd it could run up a sequence.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 24, 2015, 10:06:45 AM
Here for your delectation/amusement are the horses I've backed today:

Hickster Wolverhampton 16:40
Tizlove Regardless Wolverhampton 16:10
Sleet Wolverhampton 14:05
Vodka n Tonic Taunton 16:20
Hickster Wolverhampton 16:40
The Outlaw Taunton 15:50
Yair Hill Wolverhampton 15:10

Bearing in mind it's a Monday and always seem to run terribly, stakes have been kept to a minimum.

Tizlove Regardless ran a stormer.

Drop it back a little more in trip annd it could run up a sequence.

Credit goes to Shrewd, who I pm'd a few people about for yesterday's winner and 2 near misses at Wolves. I can take all the credit for 2 second places at Taunton  :'( and got pulled up by the aftertiming police for my troubles  :)

Here's what Shrewd posted about Tizlove Regardless: "Fancy Joe Fanning to resort to his trademark front running tactics tomorrow here on this as he's always done when on board. I actually think Mark Johnston has been a little bit cute with this horse and I think tomorrow is the day that this will run a big race, the reason I think he's been cute is the fact that he continued to run him over 12f when he obviously wasn't seeing the trip out, his first run over 12f was back in April off a mark of 77 and he's now as low as 67 now, he even sent him to Southwell last time out where the fibresand didn't suit him either which resulted in him been nudged down 3lbs from 70 to 67. Now that he's back on tapeta, back over a trip that will suit a lot more and running off this very workable looking mark, I can really envision this having a big say and should Joe get this out in front, he could be hard to peg back!"


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 24, 2015, 10:26:12 AM
No worries Simon I will be back tonite with the winner of the 2.20. ;)


Might be worth a bet on Rhapando to bounce back in the 3.10. Could get well backed.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 25, 2015, 11:57:54 AM
Horses backed today:

Process Kempton 19:15  12/1 e/w
Blackadder Kempton 18:15  12/1  e/w
The Dandy Yank Lingfield 16:30  11/2 win
Proud Times Southwell 16:50  14/1 e/w
Noble Citizen Southwell 15:20  9/1 win
Dark Wonder Southwell 16:20  28/1 win  Betdaq
Angel Delight Lingfield 15:30  16/1 e/w
Honourable Action Kempton 19:15  11/4 win
Sharp Sword Kempton 20:15  12/1  e/w
My Son Max Kempton 19:45  10/1  e/w
Ifwecan Southwell 15:20  7/1  e/w

Lots of selections, no very strong fancies - what could possibly go wrong???


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 25, 2015, 01:32:20 PM
Had to try and find an e/w dart to throw at the first at Newton Abbott. Went for Arantes at 28-1, Has had a few half decent hurdle runs and feel the track will be fine as he's run a decent race round Chester.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 25, 2015, 01:38:52 PM
Just one bet today,I have ifwecan, expected to improve on it's last run.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 25, 2015, 02:54:37 PM
Had to try and find an e/w dart to throw at the first at Newton Abbott. Went for Arantes at 28-1, Has had a few half decent hurdle runs and feel the track will be fine as he's run a decent race round Chester.

Ran very respectably, sadly only managed 4th . fav turned over.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 25, 2015, 10:33:13 PM
Horses backed today:

Process Kempton 19:15  12/1 e/w
Blackadder Kempton 18:15  12/1  e/w
The Dandy Yank Lingfield 16:30  11/2 win
Proud Times Southwell 16:50  14/1 e/w
Noble Citizen Southwell 15:20  9/1 win
Dark Wonder Southwell 16:20  28/1 win  Betdaq
Angel Delight Lingfield 15:30  16/1 e/w
Honourable Action Kempton 19:15  11/4 win
Sharp Sword Kempton 20:15  12/1  e/w
My Son Max Kempton 19:45  10/1  e/w
Ifwecan Southwell 15:20  7/1  e/w

Lots of selections, no very strong fancies - what could possibly go wrong???


Process did a win to prevent a total bloodbath today, still lost approx 4 points including the Arantes bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 25, 2015, 11:20:04 PM
@Simon,do you place all your daily selections way before the races start? Is this just a case of time restrictions. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 26, 2015, 12:12:03 AM
usually night before or during the morning


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 27, 2015, 06:34:26 PM
Probably worth a few quid ew on Trip to Paris in the 2.50 at Kempton tomorrow, even if its just to lay it off later. 12-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 27, 2015, 06:36:00 PM
Going to chance Safari Journey in the 4.30 Uttoxeter tomorrow 1 pt @ 7/2 with Choral. Won last time out and the third that day, Have You Had Yours beaten 6 3/4l went on to win at Newcastle today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 27, 2015, 06:40:37 PM
Probably worth a few quid ew on Trip to Paris in the 2.50 at Kempton tomorrow, even if its just to lay it off later. 12-1

Have you been given the nod this is getting backed?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 27, 2015, 06:44:00 PM
Probably worth a few quid ew on Trip to Paris in the 2.50 at Kempton tomorrow, even if its just to lay it off later. 12-1

Have you been given the nod this is getting backed?


No, I have been told it will drift like a barge, and I like tucking people up.......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on March 27, 2015, 06:46:28 PM
looooooooooooooooooooool


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 27, 2015, 06:46:46 PM
So this is free money then,100% to be backed in,great stuff,thanks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 27, 2015, 06:55:16 PM
Simple question really, you made it sound as if you knew a gamble was happening and we can all just lay off for a free bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 27, 2015, 06:55:51 PM
Ryan Moore about to announced as No.1 jockey in Ballydoyle. Relocating to Ireland


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 27, 2015, 07:06:51 PM
Simple question really, you made it sound as if you knew a gamble was happening and we can all just lay off for a free bet.



A gamble may or may not take place, but I am pretty sure at some point, if you take 12s you will get a chance to lay it off, if that's your bag.

I may not post here much any more, but if you read the past 200 odd pages, I do try my best to help out.

The onus is probably on you to do some reading rather than me justify myself to you. ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 27, 2015, 07:07:46 PM
Simple question really, you made it sound as if you knew a gamble was happening and we can all just lay off for a free bet.

It was just a standard thing that many do here regularly when they see an opening price that seems patently wrong.

In this case, almost a double header - the horse has a squeak & is value @ 12/1, & it will, almost certainly, shorten considerably.

When Adzy, Chompy, horsey, Simon & a few others stick these horse racing things up the night before, I'd say they shorten before the race 90% of the time.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 27, 2015, 07:13:48 PM
 :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 27, 2015, 07:54:24 PM
Here's an example of a system bet from Flatstats. If you'd been brave enough to back Danny's rides blind today you'd have found a 66-1 winner in Maybelater!
would also have found a 20-1 winner back in Feb.  (I didn't back either by the way  :()

(http://)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 27, 2015, 08:01:46 PM
In a similar vein I have backed Al's Memory and Tanawar 7.45 Ling for small stakes. Brother Tiger won earlier by the skin of it's teeth.

(http://)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 27, 2015, 08:10:06 PM
I only had £50 straight win on the first winner at Wolves tonight  ;). Some big priced winners about today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 27, 2015, 08:19:13 PM
Here's an example of a system bet from Flatstats. If you'd been brave enough to back Danny's rides blind today you'd have found a 66-1 winner in Maybelater!
would also have found a 20-1 winner back in Feb.  (I didn't back either by the way  :()

(http://)

Vejovis nearly nicked it aswell


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on March 27, 2015, 09:06:06 PM
The turf flat is back!

(well back for a couple of days)

I did my usual lol samplesize stats on the big mile races at Donny tomorrow. 

15/15 winners having their first start of the year

winners of their last race place 30% of the time and win 13%

up in class win 10% and place 24%

putting all that together I've gone for

3.10 Donny Rover and Mujazif

3.45 Gabrial and Lincoln

EW singles and cross doubles





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 27, 2015, 09:10:00 PM
If anyone has anything for Doncaster on Sunday, I'd be delighted to hear.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 27, 2015, 09:34:19 PM
If anyone has anything for Doncaster on Sunday, I'd be delighted to hear.

If you can get double figures on Rock a Doodle Do in the last could be worth an interest.

Finally won a race over sticks recently and so fit. WIth Simon Walker on board, that is worth a few lengths as well as a fitness edge.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 27, 2015, 10:05:22 PM
If anyone has anything for Doncaster on Sunday, I'd be delighted to hear.

If you can get double figures on Rock a Doodle Do in the last could be worth an interest.

Finally won a race over sticks recently and so fit. WIth Simon Walker on board, that is worth a few lengths as well as a fitness edge.

Good man. Cheers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: OverTheBorder on March 28, 2015, 07:53:59 AM
If anyone has anything for Doncaster on Sunday, I'd be delighted to hear.

Same question for today. I seem to be in Doncaster!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 28, 2015, 09:38:05 AM
If anyone has anything for Doncaster on Sunday, I'd be delighted to hear.

Same question for today. I seem to be in Doncaster!

A big pin!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: OverTheBorder on March 28, 2015, 10:11:21 AM
If anyone has anything for Doncaster on Sunday, I'd be delighted to hear.

Same question for today. I seem to be in Doncaster!

A big pin!

The Mrs was told the horses with big bums jump better. Not sure how she will feel when she sees no hurdles and she is left with a fat sprinter lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 28, 2015, 01:04:06 PM
I'll be more watching than betting, but I thought betting the horses that had been campaigned out in Dubai was a decent angle for the Lincoln (Ocean Tempest, Robert The Painter and Belgian Bill - prob BB if I had to bet only one)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 28, 2015, 01:05:48 PM
If anyone has anything for Doncaster on Sunday, I'd be delighted to hear.

Same question for today. I seem to be in Doncaster!

A big pin!

The Mrs was told the horses with big bums jump better. Not sure how she will feel when she sees no hurdles and she is left with a fat sprinter lol

Haha, have a good one mate!

Hopefully both our pins work :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 28, 2015, 01:44:43 PM
Never ceases to amaze me how Nevo keeps the gig on RUK.

Timeform bloke and Willow both in suits, Nevo in an old sweat like he is popping down the corner shop for a pint o milk.


Been all over Mange All for weeks now, but as ever, cometh the day and confidence ebbs away, so have saved on old pal Gabriel.
 
Over where the proper racing takes place, Master Dan looks a mighty fine price at 40-1 in the 3.35 at Stratford. Just hope they aren't out for a Saturday 3rd run stroll to get him handicapped.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on March 28, 2015, 02:00:58 PM
Through a dart at Ravenhoe earlier today at 7/1 e/w.  Early in the season I like to stick with tried and trusted partnerships and they don't come much better than MJ/SDS.   

For once I'm on the right side of one shortening up, normally I have a nack for backing horses that drift.  If only I had a 10th of Big Adz racng betting skillz. 



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 28, 2015, 02:10:32 PM
Through a dart at Ravenhoe earlier today at 7/1 e/w.  Early in the season I like to stick with tried and trusted partnerships and they don't come much better than MJ/SDS.    

For once I'm on the right side of one shortening up, normally I have a nack for backing horses that drift.  If only I had a 10th of Big Adz racng betting skillz.  



You've developed 11/10ths of his aftertiming skills this week :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 28, 2015, 02:25:13 PM
Through a dart at Ravenhoe earlier today at 7/1 e/w.  Early in the season I like to stick with tried and trusted partnerships and they don't come much better than MJ/SDS.   

For once I'm on the right side of one shortening up, normally I have a nack for backing horses that drift.  If only I had a 10th of Big Adz racng betting skillz. 




Not sure the reason for the dig KMac, cos it sure don't sound like a genuine compliment?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on March 28, 2015, 02:32:57 PM
I imagine it's a compliment IF the horse you put up yesterday has dropped in price?
I haven't checked. If it's drifted, insult!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 28, 2015, 02:40:08 PM
I imagine it's a compliment IF the horse you put up yesterday has dropped in price?
I haven't checked. If it's drifted, insult!


Blimey. That fickle huh?!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 28, 2015, 02:46:56 PM
Don't think it was a dig, or anything to do with the one you put up yesterday, Adz.

Think he was just saying he normally knocks it in, and he got one right...



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on March 28, 2015, 02:51:37 PM
Through a dart at Ravenhoe earlier today at 7/1 e/w.  Early in the season I like to stick with tried and trusted partnerships and they don't come much better than MJ/SDS.   



Apparently the stable has brought in a lot of 2yos this year so their routine might change, but as a general rule backing MJ 2yos early in the season not to be tried or trusted.

But nice winner anyway  ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on March 28, 2015, 03:13:14 PM
Through a dart at Ravenhoe earlier today at 7/1 e/w.  Early in the season I like to stick with tried and trusted partnerships and they don't come much better than MJ/SDS.   

For once I'm on the right side of one shortening up, normally I have a nack for backing horses that drift.  If only I had a 10th of Big Adz racng betting skillz. 




Not sure the reason for the dig KMac, cos it sure don't sound like a genuine compliment?

Not a dig mate. 

@Marky Forum timing is out it was p just before the off. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 28, 2015, 03:19:00 PM
Money not materialised as expected at Kempton, but you can get out comfortably, and freeroll a couple of points.


Edit, almost halved in price to 6s.

Something for everyone.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 28, 2015, 03:32:30 PM
Run at a crawl which didn't suit, and finished quickest for 4th. Typical.

One for the notebook and hopefully most got a freeroll.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 28, 2015, 03:54:53 PM
Tanya, no one is daft enough to bet on the scoop 6 today, surely?!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 28, 2015, 04:31:57 PM
Never ceases to amaze me how Nevo keeps the gig on RUK.

Timeform bloke and Willow both in suits, Nevo in an old sweat like he is popping down the corner shop for a pint o milk.


Been all over Mange All for weeks now, but as ever, cometh the day and confidence ebbs away, so have saved on old pal Gabriel.
 
Over where the proper racing takes place, Master Dan looks a mighty fine price at 40-1 in the 3.35 at Stratford. Just hope they aren't out for a Saturday 3rd run stroll to get him handicapped.


Dan defo one to note for handicaps.

Gabriel saves the day. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on March 28, 2015, 04:32:25 PM
Well done me and Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 28, 2015, 04:39:39 PM
Well done lads!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 28, 2015, 05:33:29 PM
V late but DWC is a good e/w race

African Story and Hokko taurame for me


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 28, 2015, 05:39:22 PM
V late but DWC is a good e/w race

African Story and Hokko taurame for me

Both went too fast there?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 28, 2015, 05:46:49 PM
Somewhat unimpressed by the ride given to California Chrome there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 28, 2015, 05:49:57 PM
Somewhat unimpressed by the ride given to California Chrome there.


Our boys certainly stronger in the saddle than the fellas that ply their trade in the states.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on March 28, 2015, 06:15:27 PM
Let's hope Prince Bishop - UK all-weather horse of the year 2014 -  remains the winner after he's undergone the wholly independent drug test. :P

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBM0k8fXIAAjahc.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 28, 2015, 07:31:32 PM
Let's hope Prince Bishop - UK all-weather horse of the year 2014 -  remains the winner after he's undergone the wholly independent drug test. :P

(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBM0k8fXIAAjahc.jpg)

Ha, got that book this week.  Should have read it :(

I don't know why the race would be suspicious.  The ones at the front all looked to go too quick and 125 seems good enough to win it if that happens.  I know I was pretty worried that my bet was already dead after they had done 2 furlongs.

And presumably California Chrome only did as well as he did through his class getting him to the end?  I'd have wanted him pushed less hard rather than harder in the circumstances.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on March 28, 2015, 08:14:33 PM
Chrome clearly had a terrible ride, going off too fast and too wide. Were there four horses vying for the lead early? But PB went even wider.
(http://i.imgur.com/oRuRqKc.png)
Just feel that if a September Stakes winner is good enough to burn past them like that after being lengths off the back and covered in kickback then the race is either bent or complete shit. ;) (Didn't have a bet in the race - given my opinion of Dubai, probably for the best).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 28, 2015, 08:30:35 PM
Going to chance Safari Journey in the 4.30 Uttoxeter tomorrow 1 pt @ 7/2 with Choral. Won last time out and the third that day, Have You Had Yours beaten 6 3/4l went on to win at Newcastle today.

Apologies in the unlikely event anyone followed me in, obv the market soon told you all you needed to know.

Was a pretty poor day for me personally with old fav's Brown Panther and Sole Power unaccountably going unbacked and  Flintshire, The Grey Gatsby and Astaire finishing 2nd - at least they were backed with WH money back 2nd.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 29, 2015, 12:27:37 AM
Chrome clearly had a terrible ride, going off too fast and too wide. Were there four horses vying for the lead early? But PB went even wider.
(http://i.imgur.com/oRuRqKc.png)
Just feel that if a September Stakes winner is good enough to burn past them like that after being lengths off the back and covered in kickback then the race is either bent or complete shit. ;) (Didn't have a bet in the race - given my opinion of Dubai, probably for the best).

If you were going to fix a race, there can't be many worse ones to attempt it.  Prize money huge, travel distances huge, and hard to get a bet on.  Would be a hell of a bribe to make you throw that race. 

I don't think it was a shit race either, just a combination of early in the season, jockeys losing their heads when millions at stake and a bad surface creating a weird result.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on March 29, 2015, 10:23:02 AM
I didn't mean the others were fixed just that PB seemed to have made a very large improvement and no UAE horses has ever failed a drug test at home. Your description of the race is more than fair - certainly fairer than mine. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 29, 2015, 11:40:00 AM
Drugs was an issue but the issue was americans werent allowed it. CC hasnt been itself since losing the triple crown attempt anyway. The pace was obviously all wrong, shown by african story's run compared to prince bishop. sub 50s for 800m on a course running slow was stupid. Thought the whole meeting was rather spoiled by pace issues, froggies were gifted races. Amazing place though, especially the quality of the turf course.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2015, 01:48:18 PM
ROFL at the richest race is fixed.

Why? so Sheik Mo can have it off with Sadblokes and Boylesports?!

I suspect Chrome's jock just got his fractions wrong in chasing too strong a pace. Not sure how often he has ridden the track and new surface etc, but horse looked in great nick and travelled best but taken wide and folowing a v strong pace was never gonna end well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 29, 2015, 02:53:10 PM
ROFL at the richest race is fixed.

Why? so Sheik Mo can have it off with Sadblokes and Boylesports?!

I suspect Chrome's jock just got his fractions wrong in chasing too strong a pace. Not sure how often he has ridden the track and new surface etc, but horse looked in great nick and travelled best but taken wide and folowing a v strong pace was never gonna end well.

Never like to second guess a wild conspiracy theory but isn´t he saying the horse found an unlikely amount of improvement and asking the drugs question?

FWIW if Sheik Mo does decide to devote his resource to landing a Barney Curley style touch on the British bookmaking industry, I really hope he goes after Baldfred ;-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on March 29, 2015, 03:51:34 PM
Oddly enough, I wasn't suggesting they had Sheikh Whatever in Meydan's only phone box making a long last call to his camel.
Take Prince Bishop out of the race and the others more or less finished where the form suggested they would. UAE horses have certainly.failed drug tests outside the middle east. How many times have they failed them at home?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on March 29, 2015, 04:05:32 PM

Think they would juice something with wedding tackle if they were going down that route.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 29, 2015, 04:55:54 PM
Creevytennant only wins when Freddie doesn't put it up :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2015, 05:05:39 PM
Creevytennant only wins when Freddie doesn't put it up :D


Oh, I'm sure he will pop up and tell us he was! ;) ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 29, 2015, 05:51:07 PM
18 runner handicap. Most bookies 1/5 odds.

Does my nut in.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2015, 05:54:03 PM
18 runner handicap. Most bookies 1/5 odds.

Does my nut in.


LOL. Such a pro.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 29, 2015, 05:57:34 PM
18 runner handicap. Most bookies 1/5 odds.

Does my nut in.


LOL. Such a pro.

I'm very good...right up to the point I pick a horse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on March 29, 2015, 06:46:57 PM
Oddly enough, I wasn't suggesting they had Sheikh Whatever in Meydan's only phone box making a long last call to his camel.
Take Prince Bishop out of the race and the others more or less finished where the form suggested they would. UAE horses have certainly.failed drug tests outside the middle east. How many times have they failed them at home?

It was utterly amazing how all the UAE horse got amazing draws once again this year....

Pure co incidence i am sure


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 30, 2015, 08:26:41 PM
Oddly enough, I wasn't suggesting they had Sheikh Whatever in Meydan's only phone box making a long last call to his camel.
Take Prince Bishop out of the race and the others more or less finished where the form suggested they would. UAE horses have certainly.failed drug tests outside the middle east. How many times have they failed them at home?

It was utterly amazing how all the UAE horse got amazing draws once again this year....

Pure co incidence i am sure

It was very subtle but think Noseda agrees with you. Tamarkuz's draws in its last 4 races there are comical.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on March 31, 2015, 01:22:05 AM
Oddly enough, I wasn't suggesting they had Sheikh Whatever in Meydan's only phone box making a long last call to his camel.
Take Prince Bishop out of the race and the others more or less finished where the form suggested they would. UAE horses have certainly.failed drug tests outside the middle east. How many times have they failed them at home?

It was utterly amazing how all the UAE horse got amazing draws once again this year....

Pure co incidence i am sure

It was very subtle but think Noseda agrees with you. Tamarkuz's draws in its last 4 races there are comical.

In the old days at Amsterdam you used to draw your seating assignment from a champagne bucket.

I was drinking at the bar with Devilfish when they called out the draw had started.

Devilfish asked me to offer him odds that  a very famous named player drew table 26 (which would become the final table at the end of the tournament) seat 1.

I declined the opportunity to give him a price but sure enough there he was. T 26 s 1

According to the Fish that was 11 straight tournaments in Amsterdam he'd somehow secured that draw!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on March 31, 2015, 10:43:27 AM
Creevytennant only wins when Freddie doesn't put it up :D


Oh, I'm sure he will pop up and tell us he was! ;) ;D

Sadly, I wasn't on either and didn't even see the forum over the weekend! Knew it was running on Saturday, was at a local music carnival and died slowly on sunday, and never had a look at the racing or footie. I have put it up twice as a winner, but more times of course as a loser unfortunately! Was still a kick in the balls when I got a text telling me it had won!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 31, 2015, 11:53:45 AM
I see Pricewise is sticking up his Guineas hopes tomorrow, and thought I would get in an early stab before any of the trials start. Feel free to join in.


1000G

Together Forever 16-1. Looked to be getting the hang of what racing was all about at back end and tucked a tough G1 under her belt to finish the season.

2000G

Highland Reel 12-1. Impressive at Goodwood and clearly thought more to come this year


Liking the fact that both look O'Brien second string, so you may get Ryan on both if Junior happens to get his weight in tune before May.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 31, 2015, 02:11:25 PM
It ran/jumped very well, Freddie.

I didn't back it either, but on the upside, I wasn't already suffering :D





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on March 31, 2015, 02:44:18 PM
no idea how they gonna get this jolly beat in the first at southwell doubled it with caged lightning in the 4.00, rare foray into the all weather for me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on March 31, 2015, 02:50:18 PM
no idea how they gonna get this jolly beat in the first at southwell doubled it with caged lightning in the 4.00, rare foray into the all weather for me.

Money for Felix not a concern?  I was going to back Fav last night as thought it was a good'un but now not so sure. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on March 31, 2015, 02:53:20 PM
its is now, hughie morrison as shrewd as they come, prob drawing dead now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on March 31, 2015, 02:58:40 PM
back to poker :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on March 31, 2015, 04:08:26 PM
http://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30469133/southwell-info#flvWelcomeHeader


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 31, 2015, 04:19:57 PM
Holy fook -  had to do the last 2 in e/w dbl after seeing this - so doomed now!

Had to dbl check calendar - it's still not April 1st


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 31, 2015, 04:25:43 PM
Surely someone is gonna pipe up and say they did the Yank?!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 31, 2015, 04:33:55 PM
Lol!

Only a couple hours too late, Ex :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on March 31, 2015, 04:37:36 PM
I think it was designed as an April fool and the poster has got the dates wrong.  Comical if the 3rd one goes in.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on March 31, 2015, 04:39:02 PM
Kirby knew.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on March 31, 2015, 05:40:29 PM
I think a few people like Basingstoke in the last


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 31, 2015, 05:52:24 PM
I think a few people like Basingstoke in the last


No one likes Basingstoke.

Not even people from Basingstoke.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on March 31, 2015, 07:32:03 PM
no idea how they gonna get this jolly beat in the first at southwell doubled it with caged lightning in the 4.00, rare foray into the all weather for me.

Redeemed, run good as I missed the first and got the second. Well done.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on April 01, 2015, 08:52:49 AM
http://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/30469133/southwell-info#flvWelcomeHeader

Ha ha, Bannahan has the last laugh in that thread


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 01, 2015, 01:04:07 PM
Going to try 1 pt e/w Somerset Lias @ 25-1 2.20 Winc with Stan James. Some of his better efforts have come on this track and hoping to nick a place on this ground. Reasonable e/w shape to race.

Another one that looks ground dependent is Redwood Boy in 3.20 Win @ 5/1 e/w (can do place slightly better on betfair)

(not intended as April Fool's - we'll see later)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on April 01, 2015, 01:17:12 PM
lord windemere confirmed runner in grand national for those who are still following him


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 01, 2015, 01:41:40 PM
lord windemere confirmed runner in grand national for those who are still following him

Yeah, heard that last night, and Robbie Mc riding.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on April 01, 2015, 01:56:28 PM
lord windemere confirmed runner in grand national for those who are still following him

Yeah, heard that last night, and Robbie Mc riding.

aye, cullotty blamed davy r for cheltenham gc didnt he. when you're tailed off that early on i'm not sure what he was supposed to do, but still ...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 01, 2015, 02:12:40 PM
lord windemere confirmed runner in grand national for those who are still following him

Yeah, heard that last night, and Robbie Mc riding.

aye, cullotty blamed davy r for cheltenham gc didnt he. when you're tailed off that early on i'm not sure what he was supposed to do, but still ...

Think hes injured anyway, but yes, absolute joke, horse and trainer are rogues.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on April 01, 2015, 06:27:12 PM
brave jockey

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cELYu5bpgRk


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 01, 2015, 10:36:20 PM
Yup. That was the worst looking fall I have ever seen and made me feel sick as I saw it.

He just got up and was fine.

Amazing and brilliant.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on April 01, 2015, 10:48:55 PM
Yup. That was the worst looking fall I have ever seen and made me feel sick as I saw it.

He just got up and was fine.

Amazing and brilliant.

Think he was very lucky. If he'd landed on his head or neck it would have been curtains.

Still doesn't compare to the fall Hayley Turner took from Seal of Approval at Donny a couple of years ago for me though.

Thought that was the end of her for sure. Stomach turning.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUVsQznV-Qo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 01, 2015, 10:51:33 PM
Amazing that he was up by the time the race finished.

Good news, after what looked like it would be a very serious fall.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 01, 2015, 11:08:08 PM
I see Pricewise is sticking up his Guineas hopes tomorrow, and thought I would get in an early stab before any of the trials start. Feel free to join in.


1000G

Together Forever 16-1. Looked to be getting the hang of what racing was all about at back end and tucked a tough G1 under her belt to finish the season.

2000G

Highland Reel 12-1. Impressive at Goodwood and clearly thought more to come this year


Liking the fact that both look O'Brien second string, so you may get Ryan on both if Junior happens to get his weight in tune before May.



Only just had a look now.

One out of two ain't bad :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 02, 2015, 07:35:47 AM
I suspect Tom didn't have time to read here until yesterday mate. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 02, 2015, 03:17:16 PM
See Hugh Taylor put up Tizlove Regardless in the 3.40 Wolv , so the 4-1 available last night is long gone.

Don't know what the stats are for jumps runs on consecutive days but Jimmy The Jetplane won yesterday and apparently goes again today in 5.30 Ludlow. Percentage play seems to me to oppose with Murrayana @ 5/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 02, 2015, 03:22:35 PM
Marquand deffo one to keep your eye on , nearly nicks it with 40-1 shot Miss Minuty at Wolvs


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 02, 2015, 03:50:29 PM
See Hugh Taylor put up Tizlove Regardless in the 3.40 Wolv , so the 4-1 available last night is long gone.

Don't know what the stats are for jumps runs on consecutive days but Jimmy The Jetplane won yesterday and apparently goes again today in 5.30 Ludlow. Percentage play seems to me to oppose with Murrayana @ 5/2

Looking more at this race don't think you can completely discount Royal Moll, will have a small saver @ 12-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Nakor on April 02, 2015, 04:17:34 PM
Did anyone hear the McCoy special on Radio 5 last night? - 10 best horses he has ridden.

List in the link below and I am sure the show can be found on IPlayer.  Was a fascinating show, from the death of Synchronised to injury's allowing him to ride some of Ruby's horses and his thoughts about that.

Was amazed at the words he had for Gloria Victus - the death of the horse was incredibly hard to take for him, but he obviously felt that particular horse would have gone on to produce so much more.  He was audibly more enthused talking about that horse then any other in his list.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/horse-racing/31737340 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/horse-racing/31737340)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 02, 2015, 05:09:16 PM
Did anyone hear the McCoy special on Radio 5 last night? - 10 best horses he has ridden.

List in the link below and I am sure the show can be found on IPlayer.  Was a fascinating show, from the death of Synchronised to injury's allowing him to ride some of Ruby's horses and his thoughts about that.

Was amazed at the words he had for Gloria Victus - the death of the horse was incredibly hard to take for him, but he obviously felt that particular horse would have gone on to produce so much more.  He was audibly more enthused talking about that horse then any other in his list.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/horse-racing/31737340 (http://blondepoker.com/sport/0/horse-racing/31737340)

Was basically the coneygree of his year. Funny all the nobheads who felt the need to hammer mccoy and pipe for running him in the gold cup havent been back out to say coneygree shows that they were totally wrong.

Incidently I think valaramix is the best horse hes ever been on and its injury was one of the saddest things Ive ever seen on a racecourse


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on April 03, 2015, 12:35:27 PM
you wont see many better each way bets than grendisiar in the 3.45 today at 5/1. beaten 3/4 of a length by 4/7 jolly last time, better drawn this time, cant have it out of the 3 and not much to make up to beat the jolly. Hope all 8 go to post


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 03, 2015, 12:38:51 PM
you wont see many better each way bets than grendisiar in the 3.45 today at 5/1. beaten 3/4 of a length by 4/7 jolly last time, better drawn this time, cant have it out of the 3 and not much to make up to beat the jolly. Hope all 8 go to post

A similar Post appeared on Fred, though we went for the other one.


OK, I´ve spent hours looking at the 15:45 at Lingfield. I just can´t have Complicit or Grendisar out of the first 3. They are two of the best e/w bets you´ll see. I prefer Complicit to come on more from the winter Derby and at 6/1 1/4 odds first 3 it´s a gift. This really is a good bet, my biggest bet on a horse since Moscow Flyer was winning Champion Chases :-)


Hope one or the other wins.

You in Dublin for the Irish Open? If so, good luck. I heard you binked a nice one on 888 last week. Just the job.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on April 03, 2015, 12:59:14 PM
unfortunately not, been in hossy for a week and its just come too soon, newcaslte gps then dtd for ukipt


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 03, 2015, 03:54:24 PM
Difference between a top jock and a journeyman jock in full evidence as Ryan outrides Adrian Nicholls. >:( :'( :'( :'( ::)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2015, 10:25:06 AM
After a sickening day of seconditis yesterday I am hoping to see some old favourites come good with some positive aspects, hopefully, in their favour.

Ifbutanwhynot 1.25. Finally in a 2mile flat track handicap and with McCoy up

Ziga Boy 2.00 over 3.4m and won't be a blog this time. Wayneo up.

Upswing 2.35 visored first time. McCoy up.

Baby Shine 3.10 3m round a track she likes.

Yankee me up buttercup.

Gl all.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 04, 2015, 10:44:35 AM
Can't not flick a tenner at that!!

Good luck us :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2015, 11:19:25 AM
Chris Gordon, excellent guest on ML.

"Chris, do you study the form, when placing your horses?"

" No, I just prepare the horse and then go and play World of Tanks, and later at night watch a bit of Red Tube."


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 04, 2015, 11:22:39 AM
Chris Gordon, excellent guest on ML.

"Chris, do you study the form, when placing your horses?"

" No, I just prepare the horse and then go and play World of Tanks, and later at night watch a bit of Red Tube."

Haha, I was going through the races at the same time and must have missed that.

Did notice that Banks seems to have developed a stammer.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 04, 2015, 11:22:58 AM
Chris Gordon, excellent guest on ML.

"Chris, do you study the form, when placing your horses?"

" No, I just prepare the horse and then go and play World of Tanks, and later at night watch a bit of Red Tube."

Is that one of those sites where you get hot tips?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 04, 2015, 11:25:16 AM
Chris Gordon, excellent guest on ML.

"Chris, do you study the form, when placing your horses?"

" No, I just prepare the horse and then go and play World of Tanks, and later at night watch a bit of Red Tube."

Is that one of those sites where you get hot tips?

Just raw ones...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 04, 2015, 11:29:44 AM
Chris Gordon, excellent guest on ML.

"Chris, do you study the form, when placing your horses?"

" No, I just prepare the horse and then go and play World of Tanks, and later at night watch a bit of Red Tube."

Is that one of those sites where you get hot tips?

Just raw ones...

Gotcha, bit like NFL Red Zone then.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on April 04, 2015, 11:40:52 AM
leggo adz

13:25 Hayd 4th Apr
Ifandbutwhynot Win 4/1
14:00 Hayd 4th Apr
Ziga Boy Win 6/1
14:35 Hayd 4th Apr
Upswing Win 13/2
15:10 Hayd 4th Apr
Baby Shine Win 12/1
Yankee (£5.00 x 11)
Bet Ref: O/0040522/0001008

£28,392.10


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 04, 2015, 12:21:33 PM
On Adz, let's get rich. Good luck.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 04, 2015, 12:23:50 PM
Chris Gordon, excellent guest on ML.

"Chris, do you study the form, when placing your horses?"

" No, I just prepare the horse and then go and play World of Tanks, and later at night watch a bit of Red Tube."

Is that one of those sites where you get hot tips?

Just raw ones...

Gotcha, bit like NFL Red Zone then.

If it floats your boat :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2015, 12:35:25 PM
After a day of seconds yesterday, I must confess I went ew.  ;ashamed;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on April 04, 2015, 01:04:55 PM
Lego. Fancied a punt today so this seems like the perfect way!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 04, 2015, 01:13:50 PM
Backing this Hollow Blue Sky like it's Vautour!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2015, 02:46:00 PM
Well Ziga clearly doesn't stay IMO. Wins a street 4 out, hoping for a place 3 out.

V diss.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 04, 2015, 02:47:28 PM
Well Ziga clearly doesn't stay IMO. Wins a street 4 out, hoping for a place 3 out.

V diss.

Ground?

(Was also on BTW!)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 04, 2015, 02:50:09 PM
Well Ziga clearly doesn't stay IMO. Wins a street 4 out, hoping for a place 3 out.

V diss.

Was an lovely run till the, jumping sorted out and traveled well (until he got tired and aired one).

Deffo candidate for breathing op, summer ground, return to 3m.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2015, 02:51:19 PM
Don't think so mate. Looks perfect NH ground to me, and you would expect it to be beaten much further if he didn't like the ground.

Time will tell.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 04, 2015, 03:05:14 PM
Don't think so mate. Looks perfect NH ground to me, and you would expect it to be beaten much further if he didn't like the ground.

Time will tell.

Fair enough.

Have included Upswing in my ice cream forecast and tricast bet in the next. Net Work Rouge and Hinton Road the others.

"Pleasure to pay you out, sir" is what I'm hoping to hear.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 04, 2015, 03:10:47 PM
just cameron, william money, southfield vic or top cat henry? lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2015, 03:17:51 PM
Time to turn things off. It back to lay time with these cruisers three out only to find F All.

Apols all.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 04, 2015, 03:19:19 PM
Starting to think I'm bokking you, Adz!

Ugh.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 04, 2015, 03:21:36 PM
just cameron, william money, southfield vic or top cat henry? lol

weeee allin sydney paget


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 04, 2015, 04:41:39 PM
Backing this Hollow Blue Sky like it's Vautour!


I do hope you followed the money mate, not just mentioned it?!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 04, 2015, 05:36:31 PM
Backing this Hollow Blue Sky like it's Vautour!


I do hope you followed the money mate, not just mentioned it?!!


5 minutes before the off, in true mug fashion, I backed it to pay for mother's birthday meal tomorrow... Unfortunately it's a local gaff, and not Gordon Ramsay's :D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on April 05, 2015, 11:58:40 AM
In the last at Sedge. Number threeeeeeeee

Final horse post.

Gl all.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2015, 12:12:10 PM
Why do you keep posting it will be your last post in various places?

Do you have a terminal disease?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on April 05, 2015, 12:15:15 PM
Why do you keep posting it will be your last post in various places?

Do you have a terminal disease?

#dramaqueen


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on April 05, 2015, 12:18:34 PM
Well until you asked me a question it is. Last day on here so thought I would give the racing thread a winner.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2015, 12:42:17 PM
Well until you asked me a question it is. Last day on here so thought I would give the racing thread a winner.



So....I shall ask the question you obv want me to ask again. Why is today your last post on here, and if its a self induced exile, why go to the trouble of telling us and not just leave(not that I am in the ridic camp wanting you to leave)?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on April 05, 2015, 12:46:52 PM
I don't want you to ask me any question. We all know Monday is ban day,so no,I don't want you to ask me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2015, 12:48:52 PM
I don't want you to ask me any question. We all know Monday is ban day,so no,I don't want you to ask me.



No. We don't all Monday is ban day. I certainly didn't know.

Why is that?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 05, 2015, 01:12:18 PM
As they say in the western films, 'This place ain't big enough for the both of us'. If you are pulling my leg then so be it but otherwise you didn't see the feature length plea from Mr popular for me to be banned.  I go or he leaves for good.

Just leaving with a winner hopefully at Sedgefield.

I think people are only making the point that your behaviour has been bizarre and erratic since your first post. Nobody will mind much if you keep posting and if you stop posting some people may notice that their lives are an almost imperceptibly small amount better.. Either way, it's an incredibly small deal. I think your presumption that people care is what's annoying people.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 05, 2015, 01:16:29 PM


Larry,

Give it a rest - NOW.

This thread, Fred, the same ridic attention seeking comments, begging for someone to ask "why"?

We are not daft.

Give it a rest please. Now.

We will not be discussing this further.

TIA.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2015, 01:21:05 PM
I wouldn't let an arbboy rant put you off, whoever you are. Been there, done that. I was told no one wanted me here too, maybe true, but hasn't stopped me. Last I heard, he doesn't represent everyone.

As long as you have worthwhile contributions as Kush said, you will be more than welcome.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on April 05, 2015, 01:28:33 PM
Fair comment Adz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on April 05, 2015, 01:56:46 PM
If this horse wins
Long live larry


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 05, 2015, 02:23:39 PM

Short notice but I like Hatton Springs in the 14:00 at Sedgefield, it just doesn't seem to have that much to find based on what we know of the four above it in the betting. There's some 25's around for anyone who's interested. Perhaps the biggest concern is if they're protecting her handicap mark. Good luck all!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 05, 2015, 02:40:09 PM
If this horse wins
Long live larry

Most unusually, uniquely perhaps in a horse racing thread, the tip was given by race card number, not name.





The name of the horse is Banny's Lad.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 05, 2015, 02:59:38 PM

Short notice but I like Hatton Springs in the 14:00 at Sedgefield, it just doesn't seem to have that much to find based on what we know of the four above it in the betting. There's some 25's around for anyone who's interested. Perhaps the biggest concern is if they're protecting her handicap mark. Good luck all!

Just been out for dinner, so missed this.

Good shout.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2015, 03:23:38 PM
Nice one K.

Interested to see Alex my boy running at St Cloud in the 3.45.

Thought it could turn in to a stayer to follow this year. This should be a good guide.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 05, 2015, 03:35:01 PM
Young Joseph not used to coming off them...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 05, 2015, 03:35:59 PM
Moon Racer form franked yet again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on April 05, 2015, 04:18:23 PM
If this horse wins
Long live larry

Most unusually, uniquely perhaps in a horse racing thread, the tip was given by race card number, not name.




The name of the horse is Banny's Lad.

Number 3 better win or Ban?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on April 05, 2015, 04:24:05 PM
If this horse wins
Long live larry

Most unusually, uniquely perhaps in a horse racing thread, the tip was given by race card number, not name.




The name of the horse is Banny's Lad.

Number 3 better win or Ban?

good grief

grow up, perhaps?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2015, 04:50:19 PM
Nice one K.

Interested to see Alex my boy running at St Cloud in the 3.45.

Thought it could turn in to a stayer to follow this year. This should be a good guide.


Second.....shock. Beaten a head, but augurs well for the season.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on April 05, 2015, 06:05:27 PM
Useless larry


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 05, 2015, 06:38:30 PM
Useless larry

There was an element of comedy though, the way they left the camera on the finish line much longer than usual until after a good while Banny's eventually rolled up, actually walking. Reminded me of the Simpson's episode with Furious D.

Hopefully the horse is OK, definitely got very trired.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on April 05, 2015, 06:58:23 PM
Yes they don't often do that with the camera,rubbed it in a little more. Supported just before the off and had to be pushed along half way round. I thought it just needed settling but perhaps the horse wasn't right, will find out tomorrow.  Stupid mule ruined a lucky 31 also.   Terrible pick.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on April 05, 2015, 07:00:12 PM
Useless larry

We can make the loss back from Kane player of the year but not from Costa top scorer  ;)

I can see a good night for Sergio tomorrow.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 05, 2015, 07:12:03 PM
Yes they don't often do that with the camera,rubbed it in a little more. Supported just before the off and had to be pushed along half way round. I thought it just needed settling but perhaps the horse wasn't right, will find out tomorrow.  Stupid mule ruined a lucky 31 also.   Terrible pick.

I presume the rest of the Lucky 31 hosed up?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on April 05, 2015, 07:14:56 PM
E/W 5fold and lucky 31. This sod ruined it,only bonus was it was the last leg so no damage done. 3 winners,2placed.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on April 05, 2015, 07:16:34 PM
4 out of 5 would have been way better obviously.  Ran a shocker so no complaints.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 05, 2015, 07:19:04 PM
LOL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on April 05, 2015, 07:23:58 PM
I will 2nd that LOL.  More annoyed it destroyed the 5fold.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on April 05, 2015, 07:24:38 PM
Lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 05, 2015, 08:00:45 PM
E/W 5fold and lucky 31. This sod ruined it,only bonus was it was the last leg so no damage done. 3 winners,2placed.

I'm confused "3 winners, 2 placed." Where does Banny's Lad come in to this?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on April 05, 2015, 08:36:08 PM
Lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on April 05, 2015, 08:37:53 PM
Typo, 3 winners and 2 placed if banny had taken a place


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 05, 2015, 08:40:45 PM
Typo, 3 winners and 2 placed if banny had taken a place

Your credibility took a big hit today Larry. It's a shame because you clearly have some knowledge.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2015, 08:41:35 PM
Typo, 3 winners and 2 placed if banny had taken a place

Your credibility took a big hit today Larry. It's a shame because you clearly have some knowledge.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on April 05, 2015, 08:43:29 PM
Thinking about it a lucky 63 was the best option, Diego Costa I was told couldn't possibly lose the golden boot,especially as he plays up front on his own   ;).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on April 05, 2015, 08:44:28 PM
How is that? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on April 05, 2015, 08:46:59 PM
Thanks for making me put a saver on Costa. Useless.
Come on kaneee


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on April 05, 2015, 08:48:26 PM
Ha, I tries putting you off him,5/4 was a shocking price.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on April 05, 2015, 08:49:30 PM
Definitely all your fault I put Costa on :D
Aguero won't score tomorrow though ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Larry David on April 05, 2015, 08:50:29 PM
How many is sergio behind?  He will net at least two at palace.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on April 05, 2015, 09:00:52 PM
2 behind
No chance of two tomorrow
Lucky if he gets one


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 10, 2015, 09:22:14 AM
Quite like Roi Des Francs @ 7-1 e/w 4.40 Aintree as although has done most of his winning to date on softer, is bred to appreciate today's ground unlike many of his rivals.
Alpha Des Obeaux also looks worth a small e/w @ 12-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 10, 2015, 09:42:08 AM
Have seen Olofi travelling very well til two out in a few top class races this year, wondering what his aim is. He patently isn't top class, but I'm hoping today is the target.

Was blown away that he opened 33-1 yesterday, and suspect it may be a case of me seeing something no one else did. However you have to trust your gut.

If Saphir jumps, surely he wins.

Can see Nichols and Sam have a massive day.

Finally I was at Newbury when Minella Rocco won. He dotted up and when we went to see him in the winners enclosure, he wasn't blowing at all. Looks a monster. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 10, 2015, 10:00:20 AM
Saint James/Minella Rock double to get me out from yesterday.

Nice and disciplined, obviously ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 10, 2015, 10:03:19 AM
Most importantly lads post em up here rather than the other place if you want a squeak at winning  ;)  Good Luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 10, 2015, 11:25:51 AM
My eye keeps getting drawn to Balder Succes back on a flat track although it's not a horse that I ever seem to get right.

It's looked pretty impressive a couple of times this season though and I just wonder if it might have another of those days today.

Had a nibble @ 8/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 10, 2015, 11:44:29 AM
I backed Balder as well, like the horse and course form. Also had to back Al Ferof with stable going so well and his record fresh.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on April 10, 2015, 02:05:33 PM
like commissioned and carraig mor at prices today, gl all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 10, 2015, 02:27:04 PM
By the sound of the commentary, I'm glad I didn't see that race...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: stumpythefish on April 10, 2015, 02:48:11 PM
By the sound of the commentary, I'm glad I didn't see that race...

yup fav got a rough passage a bit ul :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 10, 2015, 02:58:47 PM
cyrus darius looked awesome. Jumped hurdles with so little effort.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 10, 2015, 03:00:39 PM
Looked very good.

By the sound of the commentary, I'm glad I didn't see that race...

yup fav got a rough passage a bit ul :(

Biggest bet I've had over the first 2 days :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on April 10, 2015, 03:12:53 PM
racing caption competition

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03262/ladies_day_Derek_T_3262755k.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 10, 2015, 03:36:14 PM
That looks like another beast to chuck into the GC mix for next year. He seemed to be pulling at Sam even going to the last.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on April 10, 2015, 03:42:15 PM
That looks like another beast to chuck into the GC mix for next year. He seemed to be pulling at Sam even going to the last.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCPGBhIUIAAasvL.png)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 10, 2015, 03:45:37 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJb0Izry818

Annoying commentator, but this is com...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 10, 2015, 03:46:54 PM
That looks like another beast to chuck into the GC mix for next year. He seemed to be pulling at Sam even going to the last.

Good steer from you Adz, your view didn't go unheeded. Thanks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 10, 2015, 04:13:08 PM
Marvellous.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 10, 2015, 04:14:53 PM
Some performance from the winner there...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 10, 2015, 04:23:22 PM
My eye keeps getting drawn to Balder Succes back on a flat track although it's not a horse that I ever seem to get right.

It's looked pretty impressive a couple of times this season though and I just wonder if it might have another of those days today.

Had a nibble @ 8/1.


Maybe you should try and outfox these horses and golfers and suggest that you Won't be backing them....... ;) ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 10, 2015, 04:55:56 PM
Hope tomorrow involves a bit less chaos than that did.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 10, 2015, 10:24:49 PM
Really liking Vino Grigio in the 3.25 tomorrow.

Ran well in it last year, and looks to have been laid out for it this year. Normally runs at all the big meets but runs here after a slow build up, and a series of poor looking efforts when actually he has been running out of his class.

Reopposes Duke of Lucca, who won this last year, on almost a stone better terms, and now ten pounds lower than his last winning mark.


Also keen to give Un Temp Pour Tout another chance at the prices in the Stayers. 10s looks a nice ew price for him.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 10, 2015, 11:34:02 PM
Looking through today's results I noticed that the sire Saint Des Saints produced a close up 2nd over 2m4f - The Saint James and a 3rd over 3m - Irish Saint at Aintree.

This pointed me in the direction of Days Of Heaven who is by the same sire and tomorrow steps up to 2m4f for the first time in the 1.30 Aintree. As a smart improving type, with a decent expectation the trip and ground will suit, Henderson's horses going well and a decent run at the course earlier in his career to boot - all seems to add up to a  win bet at 6-1 with PP or Victor. Let's hope he behaves at the start tomorrow.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: jakally on April 11, 2015, 02:31:58 AM
Looking through today's results I noticed that the sire Saint Des Saints produced a close up 2nd over 2m4f - The Saint James and a 3rd over 3m - Irish Saint at Aintree.

This pointed me in the direction of Days Of Heaven who is by the same sire and tomorrow steps up to 2m4f for the first time in the 1.30 Aintree. As a smart improving type, with a decent expectation the trip and ground will suit, Henderson's horses going well and a decent run at the course earlier in his career to boot - all seems to add up to a  win bet at 6-1 with PP or Victor. Let's hope he behaves at the start tomorrow.

Really Like Days Of Heaven at 6/1. Underrated if it doesn't act up.

Like Vino Griego too. GL us.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 11, 2015, 11:36:34 AM
I'm pretty sure that Adz'll be lumping the farm on Mertesacker in the first.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 11, 2015, 11:51:38 AM
I'm pretty sure that Adz'll be lumping the farm on Mertesacker in the first.


Will look about as slow and useless as his namesake I expect. 8)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 11, 2015, 11:52:54 AM
I'm pretty sure that Adz'll be lumping the farm on Mertesacker in the first.


Will look about as slow and useless as his namesake I expect. 8)


:D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 11, 2015, 12:18:19 PM
I'm pretty sure that Adz'll be lumping the farm on Mertesacker in the first.


Will look about as slow and useless as his namesake I expect. 8)

It's a non-runner. (the horse).

Go on, you can volley that one in.  


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 11, 2015, 12:24:38 PM
I'm pretty sure that Adz'll be lumping the farm on Mertesacker in the first.


Will look about as slow and useless as his namesake I expect. 8)

It's a non-runner. (the horse).

Go on, you can volley that one in.  



Boooooom!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 11, 2015, 01:51:10 PM
I'm pretty sure that Adz'll be lumping the farm on Mertesacker in the first.


Will look about as slow and useless as his namesake I expect. 8)

It's a non-runner. (the horse).

Go on, you can volley that one in.  



Boooooom!!

Now confirmed Mertesacker is officially lame.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 11, 2015, 02:08:25 PM
You're getting the hang of this!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 11, 2015, 02:13:26 PM
You're getting the hang of this!

Adzy on a hat trick, I get both assists so far.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 11, 2015, 02:25:12 PM
Gok Kwan doing McCoy's nut...



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 11, 2015, 04:16:13 PM
Seeing as today is turning out to be a repeat of last year iv stuck a tenner on the doctors PDR as defending champ in the national. Bf 40.0. (to go with the other 15 horses the family have done!!) good luck all.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on April 12, 2015, 02:10:07 AM
Great work Adz, well done bud.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 12, 2015, 11:31:56 AM
Great work Adz, well done bud.


Cheers mate. Nice to see you posting again. 8)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 15, 2015, 02:46:21 PM
Jungle cat 10 e/w looks a bit long (3.30 newmarkett), represents much of the top class form last season, obviously hates soft, least his forms in the book, 2 places of 5s looks a punt

Bonds girl 28/1 e/w looks a bet aswell with faheys horses going well and it being decent first time up last time (4.05 newmarket). Has a bit to find on ratings but its performances vs mattmu  suggest that rating is a fair bit off anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on April 16, 2015, 11:59:05 AM
I've been to the Craven meeting at Newmarket a few times over the years

Always liked it, usually in grim weather though...its when you get to see how the winter ante-post flat stuff has trained on, or not

anyone know why it is not on channel 4 this week?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 16, 2015, 12:04:24 PM
I've been to the Craven meeting at Newmarket a few times over the years

Always liked it, usually in grim weather though...its when you get to see how the winter ante-post flat stuff has trained on, or not

anyone know why it is not on channel 4 this week?

It has not been on Channel 4 for some 10 years now.

RUK hold the TV rights, and by not sharing those rights with other broadcasters, it helps drive subscription to RUK.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 16, 2015, 12:42:20 PM
I've been to the Craven meeting at Newmarket a few times over the years

Always liked it, usually in grim weather though...its when you get to see how the winter ante-post flat stuff has trained on, or not

anyone know why it is not on channel 4 this week?

It has not been on Channel 4 for some 10 years now.

RUK hold the TV rights, and by not sharing those rights with other broadcasters, it helps drive subscription to RUK.

Shame we can't chuck Alice Plunkett over to RUK, and get Lydia in return!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on April 16, 2015, 12:46:52 PM
I've been to the Craven meeting at Newmarket a few times over the years

Always liked it, usually in grim weather though...its when you get to see how the winter ante-post flat stuff has trained on, or not

anyone know why it is not on channel 4 this week?

It has not been on Channel 4 for some 10 years now.

RUK hold the TV rights, and by not sharing those rights with other broadcasters, it helps drive subscription to RUK.

I was thinking that was never 10 years ago, and it turns out it was exactly 10 years ago that the decision was made by channel 4 to axe it. I used to love watching it on TV.

For those without racing UK, you can just put a small bet on and watch the races.  Or do a back and lay on Betfair if a tightwad.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on April 16, 2015, 12:49:24 PM
Thanks, i will watch it on a bookie's site

10 years? blimey,


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on April 16, 2015, 12:56:31 PM
Thanks, i will watch it on a bookie's site

10 years? blimey,

Of course if you are a shy bet customer, you'll be able to watch the races later on the sporting life website.  They even let you do this long after refusing to lay any reasomable bet to you on racing!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on April 16, 2015, 01:26:01 PM
The wood ditton race at 220pm today at Newmarket, is a race for unraced 3 year olds. Used to always be the last race on Craven today, but today its earlier. Quite a strong word about for Winter House at a general 5/1. Top stable of course, but one that was noted in a few spotters notebooks on the gallops in recent weeks. They expect it to go on to listed level at the least. Couple of points win at a general 5/1. Good Luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: peejaytwo on April 16, 2015, 02:19:59 PM
The wood ditton race at 220pm today at Newmarket, is a race for unraced 3 year olds. Used to always be the last race on Craven today, but today its earlier. Quite a strong word about for Winter House at a general 5/1. Top stable of course, but one that was noted in a few spotters notebooks on the gallops in recent weeks. They expect it to go on to listed level at the least. Couple of points win at a general 5/1. Good Luck

should you want to bet ew paddy is paying 4 places,only 9/2 on the earlys tho.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 16, 2015, 03:02:22 PM
Nice work freddie

Thank Shiek Mo for me when you're next at his! ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 16, 2015, 04:22:20 PM
Thanks for posting Acton. So happy, I treated myself to a cheese and salad cream sandwich. win win.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on April 16, 2015, 05:07:31 PM
Hopefully it made up for a few rubbish ones of late!

Id actually make a note of the horses that finished behind, the Wood Ditton has always been a race in the past that carries its form well when won by a promising 3 year old. I will personally make a note in my tracker of the first 5 home, and 2nd-5th will be well worth backing in maidens next time out unless they are too short or up against a big stable hot pot.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on April 16, 2015, 05:08:25 PM
Nice work freddie

Thank Shiek Mo for me when you're next at his! ;D

I would love to Adz, but we both know you're much more likely to get the invite to the mansions than me :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 16, 2015, 05:31:21 PM
I think Godolphin could have a wonderful year based on the horses I am seeing so far, and especially now they have some top drawer hungry straight jockeys doing their biding.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 18, 2015, 03:31:21 AM
Two I like in Scots National are Catching On and Milborough

Also backed:

Cogry and Sego Success rec'd on Timeform website
Al Co   Betting Emporium Neil
Trustan Times   Adz

So surely can't fail, must have the first 5 places locked up here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 18, 2015, 09:01:07 AM
Two I like in Scots National are Catching On and Milborough

Also backed:

Cogry and Sego Success rec'd on Timeform website
Al Co   Betting Emporium Neil
Trustan Times   Adz

So surely can't fail, must have the first 5 places locked up here.

Combination tricast? :-) I can´t have Broadway Buffalo out of the frame if he gets round though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kpnuts on April 18, 2015, 01:04:38 PM
Backed Grand National winner, thanks to KingAdz on B365 ... #ThinBrag ... so have free bet on 1.45 @ Newbury today from C4/1 offer. What's my play?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 18, 2015, 01:37:18 PM
Too kind. ;D


The maths boys will tell you that the free bets should be used on stuff over 7-1.

Looks a poor race for that with the race looking to be between the first three in the market. Romsdal is fit and top rated and Diamond Johnny G is in blinding form. Arab Spring was progressive last year and Windshear has already won this term too. Mrs Adz has backed Arab on her Sky account to benefit from the free bet if fav wins concession.

If you play outside 7-1 , I would try Red Gallileo, who has no chance of the form with Romsdal, but looked big for his reappearance and Dunlops have been needing a run, despite being well backed. He was just tightened up when playing for places at Kempton, over a distance too short and should improve, but probably not enough.

Confused? I am!!

GL whichever way you play it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on April 18, 2015, 01:39:15 PM
Too kind. ;D


The maths boys will tell you that the free bets should be used on stuff over 7-1.

Looks a poor race for that with the race looking to be between the first three in the market. Romsdal is fit and top rated and Diamond Johnny G is in blinding form. Arab Spring was progressive last year and Windshear has already won this term too. Mrs Adz has backed Arab on her Sky account to benefit from the free bet if fav wins concession.

If you play outside 7-1 , I would try Red Gallileo, who has no chance of the form with Romsdal, but looked big for his reappearance and Dunlops have been needing a run, despite being well backed. He was just tightened up when playing for places at Kempton, over a distance too short and should improve, but probably not enough.

Confused? I am!!

GL whichever way you play it.

convinced romsdaal needs some cut to win over a mile and a half and stoutes usually need a run, think windshear is a cracking ew bet on ground he will love


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on April 18, 2015, 02:00:32 PM
Too kind. ;D


The maths boys will tell you that the free bets should be used on stuff over 7-1.

Looks a poor race for that with the race looking to be between the first three in the market. Romsdal is fit and top rated and Diamond Johnny G is in blinding form. Arab Spring was progressive last year and Windshear has already won this term too. Mrs Adz has backed Arab on her Sky account to benefit from the free bet if fav wins concession.

If you play outside 7-1 , I would try Red Gallileo, who has no chance of the form with Romsdal, but looked big for his reappearance and Dunlops have been needing a run, despite being well backed. He was just tightened up when playing for places at Kempton, over a distance too short and should improve, but probably not enough.

Confused? I am!!

GL whichever way you play it.

convinced romsdaal needs some cut to win over a mile and a half and stoutes usually need a run, think windshear is a cracking ew bet on ground he will love

If he uses a freebet EW, Camel and Doobs will picket his house until he enrols in night classes.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on April 18, 2015, 02:04:18 PM
If it has to be the 1.45 Pethers Moon or Scotland are fine if you can get 12-1

nb not on form just on the odds vs betfair odds


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 18, 2015, 02:12:08 PM
ANOTHER great training performance from Olly Sherwood there as Puffin Billy who looked dead when he fell four runs ago, jumped moderately again but still shows great guts to knuckle down and win at Ayr.

Boy that man can train! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 18, 2015, 02:29:48 PM
Nice one Mrs Adz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 18, 2015, 03:39:41 PM
I see Pricewise is sticking up his Guineas hopes tomorrow, and thought I would get in an early stab before any of the trials start. Feel free to join in.


1000G

Together Forever 16-1. Looked to be getting the hang of what racing was all about at back end and tucked a tough G1 under her belt to finish the season.

2000G

Highland Reel 12-1. Impressive at Goodwood and clearly thought more to come this year


Liking the fact that both look O'Brien second string, so you may get Ryan on both if Junior happens to get his weight in tune before May.





Prices on these two have dropped(10s and 6s) without leaving their stables, after some moderate efforts so far in the trials.

Like the way Estikhaar stuck his head down and rallied in the Greenham, so had a little ew at 16s for the 2000G


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 18, 2015, 04:57:50 PM
Ivawood looked like the big lump at school, who comes back after the summer holidays one year, and finds that all the other kids have had a spurt.

Estidkhaar makes good use of a freebet I had to get rid of anyway :)

GL!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kpnuts on April 19, 2015, 12:57:53 AM
Went with Mrs Adz selection :)
Cheers all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on April 22, 2015, 12:14:26 PM
I had 2 texts this morning from knowledgeable folk in the racing game. Both fancies both worth a squeak.

Lungarno Palace in the 245 at Epsom around 7/2. 4 pts win recommended bet.

Just Paul in the Catterick 1620pm around 9/1. Not sure how to play this one as outsider of a 7 runner race, I have had 2 pts win and cheeky 1pt win double.

Good Luck all if playing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 22, 2015, 03:22:53 PM
Double me up, buttercup!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on April 22, 2015, 05:39:15 PM
Christophermarlowe scores impressively in the Investec Derby Trial at Epsom

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDNPwjqWIAASa0-.jpg)

i know its early, but what would you be looking at ante-post?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDM_JpPWYAAtx8z.png:large)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on April 22, 2015, 08:24:26 PM
Highland reel for me, heard nothing but good reports from its winter keep, and high hopes for this one this year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on April 29, 2015, 12:15:49 PM
Hopefully it made up for a few rubbish ones of late!

Id actually make a note of the horses that finished behind, the Wood Ditton has always been a race in the past that carries its form well when won by a promising 3 year old. I will personally make a note in my tracker of the first 5 home, and 2nd-5th will be well worth backing in maidens next time out unless they are too short or up against a big stable hot pot.

Further to the reply above I note that the horses that finished 3rd and 6th in the Wood Ditton, are both running today and the layers have taken no chances on that form being anything but very hot! Fallen for a Star at 4/6 in the Ponte 235pm and Exosphere, at 8/13 in the Lingfield 515pm. Approx 7/4 the double, but based on the form and my usual betting patterns when I like a race and the form it offers from juveniles, its a 10 point double for me on both. Maybe with possible soft ground some of you might want to take both on and lay at odds on, but looking at what little either is up against, its a win double at close to 7/4 for me for larger stakes than normal.

Good Luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on April 29, 2015, 03:15:47 PM
Hopefully it made up for a few rubbish ones of late!

Id actually make a note of the horses that finished behind, the Wood Ditton has always been a race in the past that carries its form well when won by a promising 3 year old. I will personally make a note in my tracker of the first 5 home, and 2nd-5th will be well worth backing in maidens next time out unless they are too short or up against a big stable hot pot.

Further to the reply above I note that the horses that finished 3rd and 6th in the Wood Ditton, are both running today and the layers have taken no chances on that form being anything but very hot! Fallen for a Star at 4/6 in the Ponte 235pm and Exosphere, at 8/13 in the Lingfield 515pm. Approx 7/4 the double, but based on the form and my usual betting patterns when I like a race and the form it offers from juveniles, its a 10 point double for me on both. Maybe with possible soft ground some of you might want to take both on and lay at odds on, but looking at what little either is up against, its a win double at close to 7/4 for me for larger stakes than normal.

Good Luck

 ;izimbra;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on April 29, 2015, 03:33:54 PM
Apologies all.

Beaten by a 25/1 newcomer, typical. I usually note these as stated in the quote if too short as a hotpot, avoid, but alas not today.

Fireship, in the 1635 at Ascot today is one I been following. Around the 20/1 mark I will be trying to recoup some losses, does love a little cut in the ground, and its been raining at Ascot on and off all day. 2pts each way.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on April 29, 2015, 03:56:53 PM
Apologies all.

Beaten by a 25/1 newcomer, typical. I usually note these as stated in the quote if too short as a hotpot, avoid, but alas not today.

Fireship, in the 1635 at Ascot today is one I been following. Around the 20/1 mark I will be trying to recoup some losses, does love a little cut in the ground, and its been raining at Ascot on and off all day. 2pts each way.

Don't think you can be blamed here, looked like he was happy to be blocked in!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 02, 2015, 01:15:08 AM
Throwing a few bullets at the 2000 Guineas as 4 places is available. 

Estidhkaar is Timeform top rated has run very well this season (both well clear of 3rd), is timeform top rated 15/2 4 places
Ride Like The Wind is French, which is always a positive as they tend to be neglected and won the Djebel.  The downside is that his last season's form is nothing like you'd expect to see in a Guineas winner.  Got 33/1 4 places
Kool Kompany.  It seems like I was the only one impressed with the Craven.  Always liked the horse. Went a bit off at the end of last season.  Again, not the usual 2 year old season for a classic winner.  Camel wasn't very complimentary.  I think it may lead with Ivawood and Estidkhaar drawn so close and all trained by Hannon.  Will see if they can get past him this time.  I have a 33/1 ticket with 3 places.

Not sure any of them are worthy of thread, as you tend to lose some in the price or lose a place. 

Anybody got any more?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on May 02, 2015, 01:27:06 AM
Throwing a few bullets at the 2000 Guineas as 4 places is available. 

Estidhkaar is Timeform top rated has run very well this season (both well clear of 3rd), is timeform top rated 15/2 4 places
Ride Like The Wind is French, which is always a positive as they tend to be neglected and won the Djebel.  The downside is that his last season's form is nothing like you'd expect to see in a Guineas winner.  Got 33/1 4 places
Kool Kompany.  It seems like I was the only one impressed with the Craven.  Always liked the horse. Went a bit off at the end of last season.  Again, not the usual 2 year old season for a classic winner.  Camel wasn't very complimentary.  I think it may lead with Ivawood and Estidkhaar drawn so close and all trained by Hannon.  Will see if they can get past him this time.  I have a 33/1 ticket with 3 places.

Not sure any of them are worthy of thread, as you tend to lose some in the price or lose a place. 

Anybody got any more?

I´ve backed backing Estidkhaar (small) but it doesn´t excite me as a good betting heat. If they stand the 4 places and bet to a sensible overround something might come up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 02, 2015, 01:31:33 AM
On Estidkhaar as well, after Adz gave us the nod a couple weeks back.

Good luck us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Aspen on May 02, 2015, 01:42:24 AM
Ivawood won't be out of the places. Hannon yard has never been more excited about a horse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on May 02, 2015, 01:42:53 AM
On Estidkhaar as well, after Adz gave us the nod a couple weeks back.

Good luck us!

I was offering 100/1 Many Clouds to friends on the morning of the National (on account of the ground), no one took it :-). I was still really angry about looking so silly, lol. I´m against Blonde´s no.1 horse man again on Sunday. I´m all over Lucida in the 1000 Guineas. I think she´s a still bet at 5´s. I know we landed a few NFL coup´s a few years back. Time to desert Adzy and get with Lucida :-)

Long explanation on Lucida available if anyone would like.

For the avoidance of doubt, I´m a big Adzy fan, really great tips and insight. Not so sure on his politics ;-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 02, 2015, 02:00:21 AM
On Estidkhaar as well, after Adz gave us the nod a couple weeks back.

Good luck us!

I was offering 100/1 Many Clouds to friends on the morning of the National (on account of the ground), no one took it :-). I was still really angry about looking so silly, lol. I´m against Blonde´s no.1 horse man again on Sunday. I´m all over Lucida in the 1000 Guineas. I think she´s a still bet at 5´s. I know we landed a few NFL coup´s a few years back. Time to desert Adzy and get with Lucida :-)

Long explanation on Lucida available if anyone would like.

For the avoidance of doubt, I´m a big Adzy fan, really great tips and insight. Not so sure on his politics ;-)

Haha, lucky you!

Not a jollies man, but always like reading insight, so whack it up :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on May 02, 2015, 02:14:28 AM

OK, I´m busy now, until (roughly) this time tomorrow, case for Lucida to follow Sunday am. Have a great Saturday chaps!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 02, 2015, 02:20:14 AM

OK, I´m busy now, until (roughly) this time tomorrow, case for Lucida to follow Sunday am. Have a great Saturday chaps!

Good man.

Best of luck tomorrow!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 02, 2015, 03:05:24 AM
On Estidkhaar as well, after Adz gave us the nod a couple weeks back.

Good luck us!

I was offering 100/1 Many Clouds to friends on the morning of the National (on account of the ground), no one took it :-). I was still really angry about looking so silly, lol. I´m against Blonde´s no.1 horse man again on Sunday. I´m all over Lucida in the 1000 Guineas. I think she´s a still bet at 5´s. I know we landed a few NFL coup´s a few years back. Time to desert Adzy and get with Lucida :-)

Long explanation on Lucida available if anyone would like.

For the avoidance of doubt, I´m a big Adzy fan, really great tips and insight. Not so sure on his politics ;-)


I am really quite Labouresque in my tipping.

I Chuck the minions the odd piece of info that would suggest I am sharing the wealth, but in reality secretly stashing away far more myself on the QT.

All the juicy prices have gone now but hoping we see a new superstar in American Pharoah in the Kentucky Derby tomorrow. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 02, 2015, 11:14:56 AM
B365 and fred are 4/1 Gleneagles right now in the 2000.  No idea why but clear arb on betfair


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: DropTheHammer on May 02, 2015, 01:27:37 PM
Anyone who's got SatanJames can back Kool Kompany at 34 which will get matched on the machine at 30


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 02, 2015, 01:30:37 PM
Anyone who's got SatanJames can back Kool Kompany at 34 which will get matched on the machine at 30

Like the 28/1 4 places and just took some more.

Pether's Moon at 3/1 looks a good bet too for Telescope's first race of the season.  If he isn't quite ready, Pether's moon must win more than 25%?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 02, 2015, 03:10:26 PM
Nice to see Rob Cowell has improved thread fav Goldream a little more again this year. ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 02, 2015, 03:46:10 PM
Anyone who's got SatanJames can back Kool Kompany at 34 which will get matched on the machine at 30

Like the 28/1 4 places and just took some more.

Pether's Moon at 3/1 looks a good bet too for Telescope's first race of the season.  If he isn't quite ready, Pether's moon must win more than 25%?

Half right?  Pether's Moon well beat tho


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 02, 2015, 03:55:03 PM
Ride Like a The Wind can be had at 33/1 with b365.  Beats bf and get 4 places

Edit getting massively overloaded these two rags obv.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 02, 2015, 03:58:25 PM
Townend just gave the fav in the long distance race at Punch a magnificent ride.

JP could do far worse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 02, 2015, 04:04:45 PM
Walsh me up, buttercup!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on May 02, 2015, 05:29:29 PM
On Estidkhaar as well, after Adz gave us the nod a couple weeks back.

Good luck us!

I was offering 100/1 Many Clouds to friends on the morning of the National (on account of the ground), no one took it :-). I was still really angry about looking so silly, lol. I´m against Blonde´s no.1 horse man again on Sunday. I´m all over Lucida in the 1000 Guineas. I think she´s a still bet at 5´s. I know we landed a few NFL coup´s a few years back. Time to desert Adzy and get with Lucida :-)

Long explanation on Lucida available if anyone would like.

For the avoidance of doubt, I´m a big Adzy fan, really great tips and insight. Not so sure on his politics ;-)

for the very few that can, PP are top price at 5/1 with an extra place so top 4 at 1/4. Managed to find someone accommodating enough to help, but now i'm on, looking forward to the explaination.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Aspen on May 02, 2015, 07:52:48 PM
Crazy Diamond 7.30 Hexham should win this standing on it's head if it doesn't fall.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 02, 2015, 08:18:04 PM
Crazy Diamond 7.30 Hexham should win this standing on it's head if it doesn't fall.

Chucked it in a double with Jellicle Ball tomorrow...

Good luck us :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Aspen on May 02, 2015, 08:28:24 PM
Sorry Mark.  Something has gone seriously wrong. Opened up at an alarming 11/4 but when backed into 2/1 I was pleased.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 02, 2015, 08:32:40 PM


No need to apologise mate...

It looked like they swapped the jockey on the run in, and replaced him with my heavier brother :)

Travelled very well, but didn't seem to fancy it when asked.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Aspen on May 02, 2015, 08:45:54 PM
Missed the break,but as you say it travelled great. I think it ran the last half mile on it's head.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on May 02, 2015, 09:18:41 PM
Nice to see Rob Cowell has improved thread fav Goldream a little more again this year. ;hattip;

I see bloody Gallant oscar won today today, not a penny on him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 03, 2015, 01:06:28 AM
Yup, sorry Omm.

Won nicely today, very much like my Chelt banker, Blood Cotil won at 14s on Friday. Some nice touches, last few days, but tbh whilst the election is going on there are days I just cant be bothered to feed the Labour boys.

Rich getting richer see. ;)


Still chucked you the Kentucky Derby winner tho. xx


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on May 03, 2015, 11:13:38 AM
On Estidkhaar as well, after Adz gave us the nod a couple weeks back.

Good luck us!

I was offering 100/1 Many Clouds to friends on the morning of the National (on account of the ground), no one took it :-). I was still really angry about looking so silly, lol. I´m against Blonde´s no.1 horse man again on Sunday. I´m all over Lucida in the 1000 Guineas. I think she´s a still bet at 5´s. I know we landed a few NFL coup´s a few years back. Time to desert Adzy and get with Lucida :-)

Long explanation on Lucida available if anyone would like.

For the avoidance of doubt, I´m a big Adzy fan, really great tips and insight. Not so sure on his politics ;-)

for the very few that can, PP are top price at 5/1 with an extra place so top 4 at 1/4. Managed to find someone accommodating enough to help, but now i'm on, looking forward to the explaination.

Good morning,

There´s no big revelation on Lucida. She has the exceptional pieces of form, including at the track (The Rockfel) and including some seriously impressive fractions in the Debutante and Rockfel. The ground is a very credible reason for the Fillies Mile disappointment, she was running all over them that day for quite a while and then didn´t pick up in the ground. All her runs bar that suggest there should be improvement over a mile, that isn´t true of some the other main protagonists. It appears she will have her conditions and Jim Bolger who seems to have his horses in good order is confident. I´ve watched all of her races very closely after Nick Morden highlighted that his timings had her down as absolutely exceptional (after the Debutante Stakes) and I´m just surprised she isn´t about 3/1.

To Adzy, Surely our shared aim of relieving the layers of a few quid should transcend politics? The two things are separate. Good luck today everyone :-).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 03, 2015, 11:39:30 AM
Naturally mate.

As I stated elsewhere, touch wood, I have always had good times during Lab Governments, because they are like Viv Nicholson(RIP), and I am sure the colour tie worn by the PM won't stop my ability to pick winners. Alls good Kush.

After Listen decided to pull both my ante post suggestions, I have become somewhat meh about the two Guineas, and bar a small interest on Estid in the 2000, I have left the 1000 alone. I liked your write up for Lucida, until I saw the dreaded words Nick Mordin.

Another of those great writers, whose systems and knowledge seem way beyond comprehension, but when it comes to actually picking winners in the paper, seems to find sparingly few.

Still, lets try and ignore that, and cheer Mr Bolgers beauty home.


Hopefully you played on Kentucky Derby winner, and can reinvest a tiny tiny amount, with a speculative wager on Lulani(what a  Lu double that would be !), who is fresh from the tracker.  I was hoping for a nice little handicap first time up, but Mr Dunlop is shooting at stars with the Pretty Polly. It may not be her day, but I would hate to see her pop up and not have shared.

At 33-1, you never know. Another horse Namhroodah, is also in the tracker, and rated slightly lower, but is less than a third of the price, also runs. With a winter on their backs, who knows for sure, but keep on the right side of this pair over the next few months. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 03, 2015, 02:00:28 PM
Some decent racing at Longchamp today and two old favs Al Kazeem and CDA run in the Prix Ganay. The ground there is bottomless, and both may cope, but I am sure bigger targets are ahead and neither camp will want to leave their season behind in the mud here.

I am having a couple of small win bets on Prince Of Gibraltar and Fate at 9s and 14s.

In the stayers race after, a horse I want to keep on the right side of this year Alex My Boy runs. He has been moved to top German trainer Andreas Wohler, who tends to do especially well with staying types.

At 6-1, on ground he looks like will be ok for him, I like the ew punt here. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on May 03, 2015, 02:39:27 PM
backed watersmeet, dont feel like playing anymore, utter ridic


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 03, 2015, 02:57:08 PM
Hopefully you played on Kentucky Derby winner, and can reinvest a tiny tiny amount, with a speculative wager on Lulani(what a  Lu double that would be !), who is fresh from the tracker.  I was hoping for a nice little handicap first time up, but Mr Dunlop is shooting at stars with the Pretty Polly. It may not be her day, but I would hate to see her pop up and not have shared.

At 33-1, you never know. Another horse Namhroodah, is also in the tracker, and rated slightly lower, but is less than a third of the price, also runs. With a winter on their backs, who knows for sure, but keep on the right side of this pair over the next few months. GL

Was a bit short for me, so I chucked a tenner on Firing Line, and put the Pharoah in a double with kush's Lucida :)

They've smacked into Namhroodah it seems.

Cheers mate, and gl us!




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on May 03, 2015, 04:36:44 PM
Some decent racing at Longchamp today and two old favs Al Kazeem and CDA run in the Prix Ganay. The ground there is bottomless, and both may cope, but I am sure bigger targets are ahead and neither camp will want to leave their season behind in the mud here.

I am having a couple of small win bets on Prince Of Gibraltar and Fate at 9s and 14s.

In the stayers race after, a horse I want to keep on the right side of this year Alex My Boy runs. He has been moved to top German trainer Andreas Wohler, who tends to do especially well with staying types.

At 6-1, on ground he looks like will be ok for him, I like the ew punt here. GL

Cheers Adz! Much needed after a bad weekend, don't know how i missed Cotil too after lumping on at chelts after your preview.  Should probably not be lazy and get a tracker going for ones you put up.

Very unlucky with Lucida Kuku, so close to a big scoop.  Still no damage done, keep them coming lads :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 03, 2015, 04:37:41 PM
Some decent racing at Longchamp today and two old favs Al Kazeem and CDA run in the Prix Ganay. The ground there is bottomless, and both may cope, but I am sure bigger targets are ahead and neither camp will want to leave their season behind in the mud here.

I am having a couple of small win bets on Prince Of Gibraltar and Fate at 9s and 14s.

In the stayers race after, a horse I want to keep on the right side of this year Alex My Boy runs. He has been moved to top German trainer Andreas Wohler, who tends to do especially well with staying types.

At 6-1, on ground he looks like will be ok for him, I like the ew punt here. GL

Ok so I read the Ganay wrong, but I still can't believe you give horses like CDA and Al K 5 length starts. Hey Ho.

Never mind, you lucky people were quickly rewarded with a 13/2 winner as Alex dots up!!

OiOiOi


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 03, 2015, 04:42:19 PM
Some decent racing at Longchamp today and two old favs Al Kazeem and CDA run in the Prix Ganay. The ground there is bottomless, and both may cope, but I am sure bigger targets are ahead and neither camp will want to leave their season behind in the mud here.

I am having a couple of small win bets on Prince Of Gibraltar and Fate at 9s and 14s.

In the stayers race after, a horse I want to keep on the right side of this year Alex My Boy runs. He has been moved to top German trainer Andreas Wohler, who tends to do especially well with staying types.

At 6-1, on ground he looks like will be ok for him, I like the ew punt here. GL

Cheers Adz! Much needed after a bad weekend, don't know how i missed Cotil too after lumping on at chelts after your preview.  Should probably not be lazy and get a tracker going for ones you put up.

Very unlucky with Lucida Kuku, so close to a big scoop.  Still no damage done, keep them coming lads :)


Trackers are essential Ali.

I use several, but Nagme.com remains my favourite.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Aspen on May 04, 2015, 03:51:07 PM
3.55 Bev,if you are around Marky147,Racing Knight! 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 05, 2015, 05:50:49 PM
For those that can(I wish), the 12-1 with Pat Powerless looks v nice ew on Ballesteros in the 3.45 at Chester tomorrow.

Fahey in great form and has booked Franny Norton, the King of Chester.

His rating has dropped 12lb from his last win here off 99.

Negatives. he hasn't shown much for a while/poor first time out record,poor draw, but Fahey makes some pleasing noises on his blog in SL, and if anywhere near his best, he eats these.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on May 06, 2015, 03:12:55 PM
I was having a look at the stats for the Chester Cup and couldn't resist the "gabrial" mugs forecast/tricast combos  ;djinn;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 06, 2015, 03:32:32 PM
I was having a look at the stats for the Chester Cup and couldn't resist the "gabrial" mugs forecast/tricast combos  ;djinn;

Going to smile if this comes in.

Team Maths are on Quick Jack and Gabrials King e/w.  You could probably back a lot here e/w and get value


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2015, 03:40:56 PM
Nice to see Nevison actually wear a suit.

Must be under orders.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on May 06, 2015, 03:43:03 PM
I was having a look at the stats for the Chester Cup and couldn't resist the "gabrial" mugs forecast/tricast combos  ;djinn;

Lets go


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2015, 03:55:17 PM
King of Chester, Franny rode an absolute stinker there...... ;grr; ;grr; ;grr;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on May 08, 2015, 04:26:49 PM
Hopefully it made up for a few rubbish ones of late!

Id actually make a note of the horses that finished behind, the Wood Ditton has always been a race in the past that carries its form well when won by a promising 3 year old. I will personally make a note in my tracker of the first 5 home, and 2nd-5th will be well worth backing in maidens next time out unless they are too short or up against a big stable hot pot.


The horse that finished 4th in the Wood Ditton, the form has been well franked since, is running in the 1815pm at Nottingham tonight, in quite a hot little maiden. Barreesh, with Frankie on board is around the 7/2 mark. Could be a good thing if none of the newcomers are above average and if it wins will continue to point out the first 6 in that race in future races.

4pts win recommended. Good Luck



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on May 09, 2015, 11:54:56 AM

Did my lol sample stats for the Victoria Cup:

Colts 5yos and mid weights (8.8 - 9.3) do well.  Apprentices horses up in class do badly.

So that gives:

Baraweez

Big Baz

Lincoln

Russian Realm

gl me!

 



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: stumpythefish on May 09, 2015, 02:20:01 PM

Did my lol sample stats for the Victoria Cup:

Colts 5yos and mid weights (8.8 - 9.3) do well.  Apprentices horses up in class do badly.

So that gives:

Baraweez

Big Baz




Lincoln

Russian Realm

gl me!

 



I like the look of baraweez lightly raced 5yo improver ran a decent debut at Donny 8f ran a bit free then came there looking like taking hand  in the finish but tired last furlong back down to 7f gl


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 10, 2015, 10:57:32 AM
Can't be too arsed to spend too much time on here at the moment ::), but for those that are interested have a few bob on Sunofagun at Ludlow, ew.

Still a bit of 12s left.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on May 10, 2015, 11:45:21 AM
on, cheers adz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 10, 2015, 03:24:15 PM
Chuck my thruppence on, too.

Cheers, soppy bollocks ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on May 10, 2015, 04:06:04 PM
On



Sorry Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on May 10, 2015, 04:25:50 PM
success days shows what it did to JFK was no fluke. Surely gets supplement for derby here or ireland


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on May 12, 2015, 05:58:57 PM
ridic race just there at sedgefield


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on May 13, 2015, 12:10:52 PM
3 running today I am intersted in, all at York on what really is a lovely and testing Card.

Muthmir York 315pm, Generally 5/1, won some hot handicaps last year, and looked a group horse sprinter in the making. Likes fast ground and only concern is it could be a little faster although two good days and the ground is now good, good to firm in places i hear. Won first time out last year and expected to run a huge race. 4pts win

Mount Tahan 420pm York, 10/1 about,Won first time out, in a smart maiden, and now sent handicapping by a shrewd Kevin Ryan Drawn well in stall one and a distance winner who appears to like making all on this kind of ground. At this price its a cracking little each way bet in a nice handicap to start with. Could be a handicapper to follow this season. 2pts e/w

Osaruveetil, York 520pm, 9/2 General, One run, one win last year, and one of my ten to follow this year the minute it won from off the pace in a maiden at Kempton last year first time out over 1Mile 3f. Mile and a half today will pose no problem and might stay even further. Hot little handicap this, and Ryan Moore up on top. Potential to be a group horse or better is the word. 5pts win

Also will be doing some each way doubles and a treble to small stakes.

Good luck all.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 13, 2015, 12:34:37 PM
Muthmir looked pretty special when it won that race last year, even after being stopped.

Trixie on, gl!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on May 14, 2015, 02:51:00 PM
3 poorly chosen nags yesterday at York, but having another go today. 2 from the tracker and one on the mention list from before.

315 John F Kennedy 5/1 has to win this if to live up to the derby hype surrounding this all winter. Given another chance on drier ground and with a run behind its belt.

345 Loving Spirit 12/1 6f Handicapper been knocking at the door in hot handicaps. trip and Ground to suit and today could be his day

450 Seastrom 5/1 Debut was a little rusty and betting reflected, strong yard and fancy this today

Couple of 3pt singles and some permed doubles and a cheeky each way treble for me.

Good Luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: youthnkzR on May 14, 2015, 03:20:53 PM
GL!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 14, 2015, 03:32:51 PM
3 poorly chosen nags yesterday at York, but having another go today. 2 from the tracker and one on the mention list from before.

315 John F Kennedy 5/1 has to win this if to live up to the derby hype surrounding this all winter. Given another chance on drier ground and with a run behind its belt.

345 Loving Spirit 12/1 6f Handicapper been knocking at the door in hot handicaps. trip and Ground to suit and today could be his day

450 Seastrom 5/1 Debut was a little rusty and betting reflected, strong yard and fancy this today

Couple of 3pt singles and some permed doubles and a cheeky each way treble for me.

Good Luck

Who gave you 5/1 John F Kennedy?



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on May 14, 2015, 03:44:15 PM
Went 5/1 with Laddies earlier, 4/1 9/2 then 5/1 very briefly...unless it was an enhanced pushed out price.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on May 14, 2015, 03:46:47 PM
bf sportsbook still offering 1/4 123 on the dante if you are quick.  £25 freebet offer as well if you get offers if you back 3/1 winner or bigger.   No brainer to back 2nd 3rd and 4th favs ew.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 14, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
3 poorly chosen nags yesterday at York, but having another go today. 2 from the tracker and one on the mention list from before.

315 John F Kennedy 5/1 has to win this if to live up to the derby hype surrounding this all winter. Given another chance on drier ground and with a run behind its belt.

345 Loving Spirit 12/1 6f Handicapper been knocking at the door in hot handicaps. trip and Ground to suit and today could be his day

450 Seastrom 5/1 Debut was a little rusty and betting reflected, strong yard and fancy this today

Couple of 3pt singles and some permed doubles and a cheeky each way treble for me.

Good Luck

Who gave you 5/1 John F Kennedy?




Not sure I would call Loving Spirit a 6f handicapper, and if he is, I wouldn't say a 1m race is his ideal conditions! ;)

That said, i quite like his chances, although Fahey on his SL blog, says he wants it softer. Ha! Fahey/Smahey!!! What does he know. lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 14, 2015, 04:09:59 PM
From Derby favourites, to Tescos Value BBQ packs...

Be interesting to hear what AOB has to say about that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on May 15, 2015, 12:10:32 PM
After a poor Wednesday, Thursday was a slight profit day with one 5/1 winner(3/1 SP).

3 for today:

240 York Top Tug 9/2- Inadequate trip first time out, expected to stay 1m4f, and could be a very good handicapper. Stoute amongst the winners of late, Ryan on board, and up against a few exposed but consistent handicappers. All over this nag.

1620 York Seve- 14/1 one run one win last year, Kingscote/Dascombe combo. Had an injury after it won well first time out and put away for the season. If ready to do itself justice first time out(stable often are) then 14/1 could be a great price on this sprinter. Trainer mentioned this as a 3 year old to follow earlier this season.

1650 Fab Lolly-25/1- Well handicapped on its all weather form and if translates that to turf this year, could be one to keep an eye on. Well weighted and got no run of the race over a trip too short last time out. Very open race and keen to back this each way.

Good luck to anyone playing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 15, 2015, 12:57:30 PM
Mistiroc runs in 7.25 Hamilton tonight. Went in my tracker as it's one of Calum Madell's flat horses to follow. He highlights stamina in pedigree and suspects might go well over further than today's mile and a half. Appears ground will suit and has been supported from 10's into 7-1 this morning.
A bit doubtful value at current price and concern over yard form, but I will most likely have a very small win bet - even if I probabaly should just be watching.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 18, 2015, 01:43:23 PM
Two 2pt favs for me today:
Tazffin               Windsor 19:35   11/8
Sir Lancelott         Redcar 16:20    2/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on May 18, 2015, 02:01:40 PM
Two 2pt favs for me today:
Tazffin               Windsor 19:35   11/8
Sir Lancelott         Redcar 16:20    2/1

Good Luck!! Where have you been!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on May 18, 2015, 03:00:08 PM
Any winners for tomorrows meeting at Newcastle will be much appreciated!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 19, 2015, 12:48:48 PM
Any winners for tomorrows meeting at Newcastle will be much appreciated!

Don't know if you follow this guy who has been in very good form lately http://www.betdaqtips.com/2015/05/18/daqman-mon-royal-hope-for-ascot/

"4.20 Newcastle With thunderstorms forecast (here we go again!), Rayadour (15.5 on BETDAQ as I write) might be an interesting outsider today.Trainer Micky Hammond is in fine form (including two winners from his last four starters) and Graham Lee, who won this race last year on Jan Smuts, switches to Rayadour."

He recommends 1pt e/w (unusually low stakes - so presume not much confidence behind this). I'm watching ATR at  the moment and there'e just been a hailstorm, so any softening of the ground would likely strengthen the bet as all decent form has been on soft.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on May 19, 2015, 01:34:52 PM
Fancy Hello Beautiful in the Newcastle 3;00pm race today. At the 16/1 mark represents great value in my opinion. Come down in the weights last year, moved stables since and in off a lightweight today with a good jock on board. Tried with cheekpieces again today for a stable with a good record up there. Couple of points win or each way dependent on how you like your each way value in 9 runner races :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 19, 2015, 02:17:57 PM
I see Pricewise has been reading here again and put up Alex My Boy for the Ascot Gold Cup.

Oi Tom....F Off and find your own horses!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on May 21, 2015, 03:39:25 PM
Couple of bets for me today. Back to my Brian Meehan yard i always have followed, barring an awful season last year has always done well with his horses in spells in my opinion. Adz might disagree, but he has had a cracking start to the season, and has had horses winning first time out when usually they always need a run. Lets hope last year is behind him and he will have a great season ahead.

Critical Risk Sandown 1825- 8pts WIN! Won last time out in a nice handicap at Doncaster, small penalty today and stable fully expect this horse to go in again today. 3/1 in places still.

Maraakib 350pm Goodwood- 1pt Each Way-Seasonal Debut behind him, and expected to perform a lot better now stepped up in trip. Dane on board and a lot worse speculative punts than this horse about today at 33/1.

Good Luck me, and anyone else considering a nibble.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 21, 2015, 03:47:19 PM
Can't disagree with facts mate. He has had a good start to the season.

I would suggest he has had more than just one bad season though. Went to see how many over the past few years but stumbled across his website. Nice to see a trainer give a daily appraisal of their horses chances.

http://www.brianmeehan.co.uk/latestnews

A question though, I notice a few of the contributors here use points, but what is the bank you(and anyone else) are using and the points spread?

ie, is it a max of ten points/20 points/5 points etc, so we know what the strength is. 8pts is a strong bet if the max is 10, but not so much if its a 20pt max.

Ta


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on May 21, 2015, 03:54:24 PM
Hi Adz

Yeah, he has had that website for the last 5 years, and it is very informative and refreshingly honest in my opinion. The website has had some work done on it in the last 18 months and looks very professional compared to the old absic HTM site they had.

 Have a mate who has a couple of horses in the yard, and he really rates Meehan. He has some good owners and held his hands up to a horrible 18 months at the end of last summer. But always been a good horseman and has some high hopes for a few two year olds this year and some of his older horses. A few group winners in the piping they feeL. I try and post what i hear but as you know too well, the best secrets dont always get out to the likes of us.

Everyone is different i guess on the Stake part, some use a fiver a point, some use more, dependent on their roll and how they punt. I guess if your average punt is a tenner win or each way, then a point win would be £10 win. I generally use a score a point for anything i put up, then again i am a degenerate :)

Based on a ten point Max bet for me!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on May 21, 2015, 11:12:10 PM
Couple of bets for me today. Back to my Brian Meehan yard i always have followed, barring an awful season last year has always done well with his horses in spells in my opinion. Adz might disagree, but he has had a cracking start to the season, and has had horses winning first time out when usually they always need a run. Lets hope last year is behind him and he will have a great season ahead.

Critical Risk Sandown 1825- 8pts WIN! Won last time out in a nice handicap at Doncaster, small penalty today and stable fully expect this horse to go in again today. 3/1 in places still.

Maraakib 350pm Goodwood- 1pt Each Way-Seasonal Debut behind him, and expected to perform a lot better now stepped up in trip. Dane on board and a lot worse speculative punts than this horse about today at 33/1.

Good Luck me, and anyone else considering a nibble.

n1 still unsure how he doesnt swamp sugar boy. Looks good for loads more. Awful ride and stops like a rock when he gets there


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 21, 2015, 11:52:36 PM
Couple of bets for me today. Back to my Brian Meehan yard i always have followed, barring an awful season last year has always done well with his horses in spells in my opinion. Adz might disagree, but he has had a cracking start to the season, and has had horses winning first time out when usually they always need a run. Lets hope last year is behind him and he will have a great season ahead.

Critical Risk Sandown 1825- 8pts WIN! Won last time out in a nice handicap at Doncaster, small penalty today and stable fully expect this horse to go in again today. 3/1 in places still.

Maraakib 350pm Goodwood- 1pt Each Way-Seasonal Debut behind him, and expected to perform a lot better now stepped up in trip. Dane on board and a lot worse speculative punts than this horse about today at 33/1.

Good Luck me, and anyone else considering a nibble.

n1 still unsure how he doesnt swamp sugar boy. Looks good for loads more. Awful ride and stops like a rock when he gets there

Hughes took the scenic route, looked like he was going to win going away, and was eventually lucky the line came.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on May 22, 2015, 10:14:27 AM
Yeah, was a little bit dissapointing he didnt win going away as he flew home in the last furlong and his turn of foot left the field in his wake.

Sticking with the Meehan factor, he was sending 2 to Goodwood today, inculding Great fun in the 2nd race, but that is now a non runner. This was also a non runner at the back end of last week, thought to be the ground, but this one went straight into my notebook earlier this season when winning well first time out. Keep an eye out for its next run, could be a good thing.

His other runner today is Able Spirit, in the 545 race at Goodwood. Sticking to the old rule of following a trainer and his better horses when the stable is super hot, im going to be all over the early 8/1 available on this, as i reckon it could go off around the 9/2-4/1 mark. The only concern i have is its first time out, but Meehan has had 4 winners out of 6 winning first time out as a returning 3 year old on the grass. Gelded over the winter, looked like it had a few good races in him from reports last year, and ran about a bit and ran too freely once too often. Could be a steal at 8s. 5pts win for me.

Also Scalzo, Haydock 1505, 3pt win at 7/2. Fella i know from up north texted me this at 7am, and fancied strongly in the meade yard apparently.

Good Luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on May 22, 2015, 04:29:57 PM
Nice Seven length Easy 7/2 winner for the first selection. Lets hope the other one is just as easy.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on May 22, 2015, 04:42:16 PM
Absolutely hosed up.  Cheers Freddie :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 22, 2015, 05:25:21 PM
Nice one, thanks for posting.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on May 22, 2015, 06:13:00 PM
Backed into 6/1 now drifted to tens. Be rude not too have another dabble I think 😉


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2015, 10:36:56 AM
Couple of nice picks recently Freddie.

Was v impressed with Scalzo. Could go a long way.


For those that can utilise the Skybet Money back jobbie in the 1.45, Im like Educate(9-1, but 11s elsewhere). With doubts around the round couple, Educate seems to be running into form. Remote could be anything, but with a couple of the shorter priced ones first time out, Educate will be fit as a flea, and at the price, looks ok to me.

I think the Temple Stakes could be a rerun of last year with Hot Streak and Pearl Secret, with slight pref for the latter.

Best bet of the day for me will be while most of Fred are watching Latvia belting one out. Brittleton in the 8.15 at Salis was a horse I wanted to follow this year and following a promising pipe opener on the dirt, a race where the form looks v tidy, I think he should continue to progress and 9-2 is nice. Even though its not a maths ew race, at 9-2 I cant see him being out of the frame. GL



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on May 23, 2015, 03:20:06 PM
hanagan having a competition today for worst ride, against himself.

So lucky hes got such an amazing book/ loyalest owner in racing because hes absolute terrible imo.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 23, 2015, 03:29:41 PM
Not sure. Crowley deciding to give everyone twenty lengths on Felix Mendelssohn was up there. That was until Richard Hughes gave up a day's racing over here to ride Sole Power seven furlongs in a six furlong race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on May 23, 2015, 03:36:59 PM
Not sure. Crowley deciding to give everyone twenty lengths on Felix Mendelssohn was up there. That was until Richard Hughes gave up a day's racing over here to ride Sole Power seven furlongs in a six furlong race.

Was never going to win, needs it fast and 5f, it just ran because it needs a run imo. Dont think its ever done anything over 6f.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 23, 2015, 03:47:52 PM
Hughes said as much yesterday on RUK.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 23, 2015, 03:52:30 PM
Not sure. Crowley deciding to give everyone twenty lengths on Felix Mendelssohn was up there. That was until Richard Hughes gave up a day's racing over here to ride Sole Power seven furlongs in a six furlong race.

Was never going to win, needs it fast and 5f, it just ran because it needs a run imo. Dont think its ever done anything over 6f.

Maybe not, but I would rather the jockey gave the horse a chance of winning.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on May 23, 2015, 04:08:55 PM
Never been a fan of Jamie Spencer, he has just given Gathering Power a shit ride there.

Awful :-(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2015, 04:13:24 PM
Not sure. Crowley deciding to give everyone twenty lengths on Felix Mendelssohn was up there. That was until Richard Hughes gave up a day's racing over here to ride Sole Power seven furlongs in a six furlong race.

Was never going to win, needs it fast and 5f, it just ran because it needs a run imo. Dont think its ever done anything over 6f.

Maybe not, but I would rather the jockey gave the horse a chance of winning.


As the boys said Tal,lay of the day. Target will be RA, but needed a warm up.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2015, 04:16:38 PM
I need to moan one in.

Way too many seconds today.

Educate

Maarek

Endless Drama

Opal Tiara

Dr Redeye.

Come on Pearl!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 23, 2015, 04:19:56 PM
Streak me up, buttercup...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 23, 2015, 04:25:22 PM
Go on then, Adz. Pearl and Take Cover, please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on May 23, 2015, 04:29:04 PM
had chunks on jack dexter. Give me a break.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 23, 2015, 04:29:37 PM
Well done mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2015, 04:30:08 PM
had chunks on jack dexter. Give me a break.


I can only put them up, I cant press the button for you. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 23, 2015, 04:32:24 PM
Delighted to celebrate your success, Adz. Lovely stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2015, 05:12:20 PM
Liking the booking of Probert here on Secret Witness.

Poor strike rate after 101 runs, but tumbling down weights and quietly getting there again.

Small ew interest.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 23, 2015, 05:17:30 PM
Liking the booking of Probert here on Secret Witness.

Poor strike rate after 101 runs, but tumbling down weights and quietly getting there again.

Small ew interest.

Got my tenner.

#winordie


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 23, 2015, 05:32:01 PM
Liking the booking of Probert here on Secret Witness.

Poor strike rate after 101 runs, but tumbling down weights and quietly getting there again.

Small ew interest.

Got my tenner.

#winordie


#jonah

 ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on May 24, 2015, 01:58:20 PM
Last minute decision to go to Uttox today if anyone likes anything let me know plz!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on May 25, 2015, 01:35:15 PM
Bit annoyed with myself as I went to post Maccus in the first race at 14/1 at Windsor. Stuck in traffic on the way to play cricket and my phone battery died whilst trying to post. Of course it wins at 14/1 for Brian Meehan and Fortune and I didn't even get on lol.

I do like the look of Solo Hunter in the 255 at Windsor. 9/2 and up in the weights after recent win, extra furlong no problem and ground be fine. Still only a 4 year old and improving since a failed
Attempt at hurdling. Like the look of this one strongly and 4pt win bet for me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 27, 2015, 01:22:12 PM
Was looking at laying one today, first time out, flagged as poor value based on sire and jockey stats at Kempton, drawn badly, stable 1/25 this season

7.10 Kempton  Floriss

Backed from 25/1 this morning into 9/1 best, generally 7/1  wtf! Will be interested to see what price it goes off.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on May 27, 2015, 04:57:58 PM
Was looking at laying one today, first time out, flagged as poor value based on sire and jockey stats at Kempton, drawn badly, stable 1/25 this season

7.10 Kempton  Floriss

Backed from 25/1 this morning into 9/1 best, generally 7/1  wtf! Will be interested to see what price it goes off.


I'm no expert but shouldn't you be pretty wary laying horses that are backed in like that no?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on May 27, 2015, 05:54:58 PM
Great fun, one of meehans is now running tonight at 1940 at kempton. Seen 4/1 about maybe better. Been waiting for this to run again since debut win. Stable confidence at an all time high. 4pts win.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 27, 2015, 06:09:43 PM
Hopefully we're all having fun at 19:45!

Was looking at laying one today, first time out, flagged as poor value based on sire and jockey stats at Kempton, drawn badly, stable 1/25 this season

7.10 Kempton   Floriss

Backed from 25/1 this morning into 9/1 best, generally 7/1  wtf! Will be interested to see what price it goes off.


I'm no expert but shouldn't you be pretty wary laying horses that are backed in like that no?

Much like yourself, no expert.

Think that sometimes people jump on the bandwagon, and in turn these horses go way shorter than they should be.

It's a numbers game, so you just want to be on the right side of the price.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on May 27, 2015, 06:26:51 PM
Also just noticed a nagme alert. Mark stein in the 710 at kempton, one
Of the horses placed In the tracker behind the wood dutton winner. 1pt each way at a general 12/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 27, 2015, 06:37:20 PM
Was looking at laying one today, first time out, flagged as poor value based on sire and jockey stats at Kempton, drawn badly, stable 1/25 this season

7.10 Kempton  Floriss

Backed from 25/1 this morning into 9/1 best, generally 7/1  wtf! Will be interested to see what price it goes off.


I'm no expert but shouldn't you be pretty wary laying horses that are backed in like that no?

Mmmm, that was kind of the implicit question...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 27, 2015, 06:41:21 PM
Also just noticed a nagme alert. Mark stein in the 710 at kempton, one
Of the horses placed In the tracker behind the wood dutton winner. 1pt each way at a general 12/1.

Decided to keep my powder dry till nearer the off, but will be rooting for yours I expect lol.

btw Daqman put one up in this race :

"7.10 Kempton William Haggas landed a hat-trick yesterday, and is five from eight, but has just one runner in the next three days’ racing.

Only Alasaal in this maiden represents the stable before raids at Newcastle, Haydock and Catterick on Saturday.

And Alasaal is by the prolific sire of two-year-olds (61% winners to runners), War Front, whose get include Declaration of War (won first time out) and War Command (won first time out).

No wonder the Hamdan-owned Alasaal made 550,000 dollars as a yearling. I grabbed the early 5.0 offers on BETDAQ, after good gallops reports. Could be a standout on a day of low-class racing."


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on May 27, 2015, 07:47:31 PM
Was looking at laying one today, first time out, flagged as poor value based on sire and jockey stats at Kempton, drawn badly, stable 1/25 this season

7.10 Kempton  Floriss

Backed from 25/1 this morning into 9/1 best, generally 7/1  wtf! Will be interested to see what price it goes off.


I'm no expert but shouldn't you be pretty wary laying horses that are backed in like that no?

Mmmm, that was kind of the implicit question...

laid a little at an average of about 11.5 GL all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 01, 2015, 03:01:33 PM
Couldn't resist a little ew bet on Seeking Magic for the Epsom Dash on Saturday.

Second in the race last year, looks to me like it has been the aim since then.

It has a very strange profile.

Run 30 times but over 5f on turf only 5 times winning twice, second twice and third once.(couple of runs on AW and 5.5f not included). You would expect them to have given 5f more of a regular try based on these results.

Last year it was given a gentle pipe opener in a 6f race at Newmarket before its second, and this year, again, it was given a very gentle intro to the season in the same race, where Adam Kirby flapped his arms about a bit, but was never trying too hard.

We don't know the draw, or the ground yet, but with good ground at the moment and decent temperatures forecast for Wednesday onwards, it shouldn't be soft. So he should have his ground.

As he went off 7-1 last year after the same prep, with him being 4lbs lower, I can't see him going off any worse than the current 12-1 but can see him shortening considerably. GL if you get involved.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 01, 2015, 03:34:15 PM
Busy this week, so saves me getting my pin out looking through the race.

Cheers mate :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on June 01, 2015, 10:29:30 PM
pleased to see success days supplemented for the derby, looked awesome last time in ireland. Tough to try that at epsom, but think hes one of the few who could be a ptential star.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 02, 2015, 05:49:21 PM
pleased to see success days supplemented for the derby, looked awesome last time in ireland. Tough to try that at epsom, but think hes one of the few who could be a ptential star.

I had a freebet with Padraig, so chucked it on him a few weeks back at 14/1 NRNB, and then see WH go 20/1 NRNB yesterday :D

Pretty shocked to see Giovanni Canaletto's price collapse over the course of a few hours, given it's hardly looked like a superstar thus far.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 02, 2015, 05:58:53 PM
pleased to see success days supplemented for the derby, looked awesome last time in ireland. Tough to try that at epsom, but think hes one of the few who could be a ptential star.

I had a freebet with Padraig, so chucked it on him a few weeks back at 14/1 NRNB, and then see WH go 20/1 NRNB yesterday :D

Pretty shocked to see Giovanni Canaletto's price collapse over the course of a few hours, given it's hardly looked like a superstar thus far.


All about the Classics, my friend.

Look how much Highland Reel improved for the outing in the French on Sunday.

Was one of the most impressive 2 yr olds last yr. He can come second to Hobbs, by all means!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 02, 2015, 06:22:38 PM
Won a maiden, and beaten in a G3, yet the same price as a G1 winner.

Good luck with Hobbs [  ] :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 05, 2015, 11:29:20 AM
Couldn't resist a little ew bet on Seeking Magic for the Epsom Dash on Saturday.

Second in the race last year, looks to me like it has been the aim since then.

It has a very strange profile.

Run 30 times but over 5f on turf only 5 times winning twice, second twice and third once.(couple of runs on AW and 5.5f not included). You would expect them to have given 5f more of a regular try based on these results.

Last year it was given a gentle pipe opener in a 6f race at Newmarket before its second, and this year, again, it was given a very gentle intro to the season in the same race, where Adam Kirby flapped his arms about a bit, but was never trying too hard.

We don't know the draw, or the ground yet, but with good ground at the moment and decent temperatures forecast for Wednesday onwards, it shouldn't be soft. So he should have his ground.

As he went off 7-1 last year after the same prep, with him being 4lbs lower, I can't see him going off any worse than the current 12-1 but can see him shortening considerably. GL if you get involved.


Hugh Taylor just put up Seeking Magic.....I really should start charging. Seems to be some half decent money being charged for far worse results(anyone care to set me up a website? far too lazy).........anyway, now best price 8-1. GL us. ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on June 05, 2015, 11:56:29 AM
Hey Adz, i think thats cracking bet for the dash, and Glad i listened last week and got on at double figures.

I fancy a few myself today.

Kyllachy Spirit Goodwood 1810 10/1 Had two years off and had come right down in the weights, and has started showing some of his 2012 form again. Still about a stone off his highest rating, and his recent runs have been promising. Shrewd trainer and a good amateur up. Today is the day and 3pts win for me.

Seagull Star Epsom 235 15/2 went into the notebook last year, got injured after Ascot and been off since. Haggas big handicap hopes and possible group race plans im told, and could be an excellent horse to follow this year. Trip looks ideal, and i would kick myself if not on today at this price. Only concerns are first time out and the undulations of Epsom, but its a 5pt win bet for me!

In the Oaks i have backed Star of Seville at 25 and 28/1, and i'm not going to desert her now even if Frankie has and the form book says it needs to improve. Extra distance not a problem in my humble opinion, Gosden wouldnt be taking a chance here if he didnt belive it stays. 2.5pts each way at 16/1.

Good Luck all!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on June 06, 2015, 12:57:37 AM
Was just looking through the entries for Ascot.

If all the main players show up, will be the most interesting meeting ever.

And the new race looks mouthwatering.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 06, 2015, 01:58:33 AM
Usually just flick a few bets on, and then rail it when I get home from Vegas.

Actually going to be here for it all this year, so hoping that it is good ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on June 06, 2015, 09:58:07 AM
Art Collection is overpriced for me in the 2-35 at 16/1. Was very green last time out but once it got itself balanced it made up ground very quickly.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on June 06, 2015, 12:16:38 PM
Art Collection is overpriced for me in the 2-35 at 16/1. Was very green last time out but once it got itself balanced it made up ground very quickly.

surely just beat trees down at brighton though.

have massive position for jack hobbs and against golden horn but also had 4 win doubles on these, gl all  2.00 shaakis/dutch uncle
2.35 aleko/buratino


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on June 06, 2015, 02:46:20 PM
2.00 very nice franking for jack hobbs form


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on June 06, 2015, 03:59:26 PM
brilliant from dobbs to land that monkey there on the line. Who are they trying to kid with that sp. No rule 4, suck it up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 06, 2015, 05:29:09 PM
Proper horses, those two.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on June 06, 2015, 05:45:13 PM
Proper horses, those two.



yeah, much better race then the oaks, proper paces and no hard luck stories


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 07, 2015, 10:15:03 PM
Great to see American Pharoah complete the Triple Crown. :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 08, 2015, 09:58:57 AM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyDcXtVb8_U

Impressive again!

Ought to bring it over here for the Leger, and see if it can manage that...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 08, 2015, 11:52:45 AM
Tuesday   

Coventry Stakes      (Group 2 6f)
Queen Anne Stake   (Group 1 1m)
Ascot Stakes H'cap   (H'cap 2m4f)   
King's Stand Stakes   (Group 1 5f)
Windsor Castle Stakes   (Listed    5f)
St James'Palace Stakes   (Group 1 1m)


Wednesday

Sandringham Handicap   (H'cap    1m)   
Royal Hunt Cup       (H'cap    1m)   
Queen Mary Stakes   (Group 2 5f)   
Prince of Wales' Stakes   (Group 1 1m2f)
Jersey Stakes      (Group 3 7f)
Duke of Camb' Stakes    (Group 2 1m)


Thursday

Ribblesdale Stakes   (Group 2 1m4f)
Britannia Stakes   (H'cap    1m)   
Ascot Gold Cup      (Group 1 2m4f)   
Norfolk Stakes (GB)   (Group 2 5f)
King George V Stakes   (H'cap    1m4f)
Tercentenary Stakes   (Group 3 1m2f)   


Friday

Coronation Stakes   (Group 1 1m)
Queen's Vase      (Group 3 2m)
Buckingham Pal Stakes   (H'cap    7f)
Albany Stakes (GB)   (Group 3 6f)
King Edward VII Stakes   (Group 2 1m4f)
Wolferton Handicap   (H'cap    1m2f)
Diamond Jubilee Stakes   (Group 1 6f)


Saturday

Chesham Stakes      (Listed    7f)
Queen Alexandra Stakes   (Listed    2m5f)
Wokingham Stakes   (H'cap    6f)
Hardwicke Stakes   (Group 2 1m4f)
Duke of E'burgh Stakes   (H'cap    1m4f)



Might be cheaper to go to Vegas  :o


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on June 08, 2015, 01:27:31 PM
Tuesday   

Coventry Stakes      (Group 2 6f)
Queen Anne Stake   (Group 1 1m)
Ascot Stakes H'cap   (H'cap 2m4f)   
King's Stand Stakes   (Group 1 5f)
Windsor Castle Stakes   (Listed    5f)
St James'Palace Stakes   (Group 1 1m)


Wednesday

Sandringham Handicap   (H'cap    1m)   
Royal Hunt Cup       (H'cap    1m)   
Queen Mary Stakes   (Group 2 5f)   
Prince of Wales' Stakes   (Group 1 1m2f)
Jersey Stakes      (Group 3 7f)
Duke of Camb' Stakes    (Group 2 1m)


Thursday

Ribblesdale Stakes   (Group 2 1m4f)
Britannia Stakes   (H'cap    1m)   
Ascot Gold Cup      (Group 1 2m4f)   
Norfolk Stakes (GB)   (Group 2 5f)
King George V Stakes   (H'cap    1m4f)
Tercentenary Stakes   (Group 3 1m2f)   


Friday

Coronation Stakes   (Group 1 1m)
Queen's Vase      (Group 3 2m)
Buckingham Pal Stakes   (H'cap    7f)
Albany Stakes (GB)   (Group 3 6f)
King Edward VII Stakes   (Group 2 1m4f)
Wolferton Handicap   (H'cap    1m2f)
Diamond Jubilee Stakes   (Group 1 6f)


Saturday

Chesham Stakes      (Listed    7f)
Queen Alexandra Stakes   (Listed    2m5f)
Wokingham Stakes   (H'cap    6f)
Hardwicke Stakes   (Group 2 1m4f)
Duke of E'burgh Stakes   (H'cap    1m4f)



Might be cheaper to go to Vegas  :o

Disgraceful to schedule the 3k plo8 whilst Ascot is on.  Always love the first day.  Bit like Chrltenham, where the first day has the strongest card.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on June 08, 2015, 01:32:12 PM
Tuesday   

Coventry Stakes      (Group 2 6f)
Queen Anne Stake   (Group 1 1m)
Ascot Stakes H'cap   (H'cap 2m4f)   
King's Stand Stakes   (Group 1 5f)
Windsor Castle Stakes   (Listed    5f)
St James'Palace Stakes   (Group 1 1m)


Wednesday

Sandringham Handicap   (H'cap    1m)   
Royal Hunt Cup       (H'cap    1m)   
Queen Mary Stakes   (Group 2 5f)   
Prince of Wales' Stakes   (Group 1 1m2f)
Jersey Stakes      (Group 3 7f)
Duke of Camb' Stakes    (Group 2 1m)


Thursday

Ribblesdale Stakes   (Group 2 1m4f)
Britannia Stakes   (H'cap    1m)   
Ascot Gold Cup      (Group 1 2m4f)   
Norfolk Stakes (GB)   (Group 2 5f)
King George V Stakes   (H'cap    1m4f)
Tercentenary Stakes   (Group 3 1m2f)   


Friday

Coronation Stakes   (Group 1 1m)
Queen's Vase      (Group 3 2m)
Buckingham Pal Stakes   (H'cap    7f)
Albany Stakes (GB)   (Group 3 6f)
King Edward VII Stakes   (Group 2 1m4f)
Wolferton Handicap   (H'cap    1m2f)
Diamond Jubilee Stakes   (Group 1 6f)


Saturday

Chesham Stakes      (Listed    7f)
Queen Alexandra Stakes   (Listed    2m5f)
Wokingham Stakes   (H'cap    6f)
Hardwicke Stakes   (Group 2 1m4f)
Duke of E'burgh Stakes   (H'cap    1m4f)



Might be cheaper to go to Vegas  :o

You've missed out the new race, which I'm particularly excited about.

Bugger only knows which day its on though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on June 08, 2015, 01:37:20 PM
Friday instead of the Buckingham Palace Stakes it seems


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on June 08, 2015, 01:40:10 PM
Do we need a five day festival?

Why not have two days elsewhere in the calendar (either separately or as an end of season weekend) and have a more concentrated Royal Meeting?

We had that farce the other week with five meetings in the North because all racing that's any good has to be on a Saturday and now we go from one extreme to another with a five day flat festival. I don't think five days is anything new, but why not have a proper weekend of racing with that daft Shergar Cup?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 08, 2015, 01:57:39 PM
I might need the 5th day to try and get out of it :)

Friday instead of the Buckingham Palace Stakes it seems

What is the new race, Keith?

I just grabbed them from Wiki, so it's obv not been updated yet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on June 08, 2015, 01:59:36 PM
Do we need a five day festival?

Why not have two days elsewhere in the calendar (either separately or as an end of season weekend) and have a more concentrated Royal Meeting?

We had that farce the other week with five meetings in the North because all racing that's any good has to be on a Saturday and now we go from one extreme to another with a five day flat festival. I don't think five days is anything new, but why not have a proper weekend of racing with that daft Shergar Cup?

The group races cannot be moved as they are an essential part of the pattern.

Many of the handicaps are traditional aims for this part of the year (Hunt Cup, Wokingham mostly, but the Ascot stakes, King George and the Bessborough too). I suppose you could trim a few off and go back to 4 days, but the Saturday has become the second most popular day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on June 08, 2015, 02:01:37 PM
I might need the 5th day to try and get out of it :)

Friday instead of the Buckingham Palace Stakes it seems

What is the new race, Keith?

I just grabbed them from Wiki, so it's obv not been updated yet.

The Commonwealth Cup.

6f Group 1 for 3 year olds only. There has never been a a Group 1 in the UK for 3 year olds run over less than a mile.

Tiggy Wiggy v Limato v Hootenanny.

Should be a great race.

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/commonwealth-cup/winner



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 08, 2015, 02:03:59 PM
Cheers.

Don't forget Adaay (I hope)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: KitKeeper on June 08, 2015, 07:06:43 PM
I might need the 5th day to try and get out of it :)

Friday instead of the Buckingham Palace Stakes it seems

What is the new race, Keith?

I just grabbed them from Wiki, so it's obv not been updated yet.

The Commonwealth Cup.

6f Group 1 for 3 year olds only. There has never been a a Group 1 in the UK for 3 year olds run over less than a mile.

Tiggy Wiggy v Limato v Hootenanny.

Should be a great race.

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/commonwealth-cup/winner



Bit of a fanboy but I'm really keen on Anthem Alexander for this.

Really nice comeback run and I think she'll improve massively as a 3yo.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 12, 2015, 10:52:24 AM
Going to have 0.5pt e/w Parkes and Ride 3.05 York @ 9/1 . Maybe not the best e/w race but Karl Burke's 2nd time out win 20% for an ROI of 59%. All Pivotal's progeny on Gd to fm, 2nd time out in sprints win 15% and place 40%
 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on June 12, 2015, 04:04:33 PM
Going to have 0.5pt e/w Parkes and Ride 3.05 York @ 9/1 . Maybe not the best e/w race but Karl Burke's 2nd time out win 20% for an ROI of 59%. All Pivotal's progeny on Gd to fm, 2nd time out in sprints win 15% and place 40%
 

profit wp.

been a nice day for a price.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on June 13, 2015, 02:44:00 PM
That amatuer womens race was cringe


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 13, 2015, 02:49:02 PM
Pearl Castle or Ralphy Lad backer?


Looked like exactly what it said on the tin, to me...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on June 13, 2015, 04:58:13 PM
Pearl Castle or Ralphy Lad backer?


Looked like exactly what it said on the tin, to me...

keep guessing sherlock.

If I wanted to see women swaying side to side and getting nowhere Ill go to the bigg market.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 13, 2015, 05:01:00 PM
Wil do, Watson...



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on June 15, 2015, 07:17:49 PM
Remember Mere is running a competition for the racing at Ascot this week!

Go and get involved.

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=65571.0


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on June 18, 2015, 12:43:03 PM
One i been looking forward to all week at Ascot is Brian Meehans Mutarakez in the Brittania at 5pm. Plenty of 10/1 available, and maybe still some 11s. Won both races this season in good handicaps and stable have started the season brilliantly, this has been the plan for some time and Meehan has been hot on its chances all week. I had a good chunk on this morning and well worth a nibble at 10/1 win or each way IMO.

Good Luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 01, 2015, 12:53:43 AM
Thought this was a nice tribute to Kauto Star, written by Alistair Down.



OUT OF a cloudless blue sky on a searing summer's day news breaks that injects a touch of winter chill to the heart. The incomparable Kauto Star is dead - gone is the paragon.

In the scheme of a wider world riven by tragedies and vile confrontation, a fatal injury to a 15-year-old gelding in a field is of little consequence - the stuff of footnotes.

But in our village, bound together by a love of the racehorse and intoxication with the wonders they can weave, the pang of sadness is inescapable.

Kauto Star lived well and it will be at Ditcheat where there will be genuine desolation. Paul Nicholls, Clifford Baker and the team had great chunks of their life defined by the fact that every morning when they walked into the yard they were in the presence of greatness.

For eight seasons that white face peered out from his box, not just lord of all he surveyed but ruler of the jumping world. And next door was everyone's favourite nightclub bouncer, the fabulous Denman, who regularly battled for mastery with his neighbour and whose Gold Cup record reads 1222.

Stable boxes are not usually places of reverence, but the few square  yards that were home to Kauto Star and Denman were the lair of legends.

Kauto Star is deservedly described as the "finest chaser since Arkle", but that title fails to grasp how important he was to a whole generation of racegoers to whom Arkle was a misty figure from a black-and-white world."



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on July 01, 2015, 09:59:22 AM
Thought this was a nice tribute to Kauto Star, written by Alistair Down.



OUT OF a cloudless blue sky on a searing summer's day news breaks that injects a touch of winter chill to the heart. The incomparable Kauto Star is dead - gone is the paragon.

In the scheme of a wider world riven by tragedies and vile confrontation, a fatal injury to a 15-year-old gelding in a field is of little consequence - the stuff of footnotes.

But in our village, bound together by a love of the racehorse and intoxication with the wonders they can weave, the pang of sadness is inescapable.

Kauto Star lived well and it will be at Ditcheat where there will be genuine desolation. Paul Nicholls, Clifford Baker and the team had great chunks of their life defined by the fact that every morning when they walked into the yard they were in the presence of greatness.

For eight seasons that white face peered out from his box, not just lord of all he surveyed but ruler of the jumping world. And next door was everyone's favourite nightclub bouncer, the fabulous Denman, who regularly battled for mastery with his neighbour and whose Gold Cup record reads 1222.

Stable boxes are not usually places of reverence, but the few square  yards that were home to Kauto Star and Denman were the lair of legends.

Kauto Star is deservedly described as the "finest chaser since Arkle", but that title fails to grasp how important he was to a whole generation of racegoers to whom Arkle was a misty figure from a black-and-white world."



Great and fitting tribute. I actually feel really sad that he has died, Always love Kauto Star, strange how ive never really given the horse a second thought when he was not running a race but when i found out the news of his passing it mad me feel slightly lost. Do we know what happens to him now, Buried or more likely cremated?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Kmac84 on July 01, 2015, 01:50:35 PM
Horse people, I liked the look of Vallarta in the 4:30 at Thirsk, competitive little handicap but seems a bit of a dirty e/w race.  I like the stable/jockey combo and they seem to be in a little bit of form, and the horse beat a Mark Johnstone horse last time out that seemed to be decent enough.   

Any thoughts? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on July 01, 2015, 02:05:04 PM
Thought this was a nice tribute to Kauto Star, written by Alistair Down.



OUT OF a cloudless blue sky on a searing summer's day news breaks that injects a touch of winter chill to the heart. The incomparable Kauto Star is dead - gone is the paragon.

In the scheme of a wider world riven by tragedies and vile confrontation, a fatal injury to a 15-year-old gelding in a field is of little consequence - the stuff of footnotes.

But in our village, bound together by a love of the racehorse and intoxication with the wonders they can weave, the pang of sadness is inescapable.

Kauto Star lived well and it will be at Ditcheat where there will be genuine desolation. Paul Nicholls, Clifford Baker and the team had great chunks of their life defined by the fact that every morning when they walked into the yard they were in the presence of greatness.

For eight seasons that white face peered out from his box, not just lord of all he surveyed but ruler of the jumping world. And next door was everyone's favourite nightclub bouncer, the fabulous Denman, who regularly battled for mastery with his neighbour and whose Gold Cup record reads 1222.

Stable boxes are not usually places of reverence, but the few square  yards that were home to Kauto Star and Denman were the lair of legends.

Kauto Star is deservedly described as the "finest chaser since Arkle", but that title fails to grasp how important he was to a whole generation of racegoers to whom Arkle was a misty figure from a black-and-white world."



Down is a great writer and a huge miss for me on C4 racing now they have gone all young and image driven rather than substance.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 01, 2015, 04:13:14 PM
+1 to Down

Great and fitting tribute. I actually feel really sad that he has died, Always love Kauto Star, strange how ive never really given the horse a second thought when he was not running a race but when i found out the news of his passing it mad me feel slightly lost. Do we know what happens to him now, Buried or more likely cremated?

Likewise, I was surprised that I felt so upset when I saw the news.

First proper bet I had was on him in the 2011 Betfair Chase. I had never watched racing before, but was at home for the weekend having just gotten out of hospital, and I think Trigg had put it up here.

No idea what'll happen now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 02, 2015, 11:19:28 AM
Think In Pursuit is too big at 14-1 for 7.55 Epsom. Suggest whatever your standard minimum win bet is or a larger bet hopefully to lay some off shorter later in the day.

Sire has a remarkable record over 12f  5/5 wins albeit well fancied runners. Was initially looking at Syrdarya for this, may also be a smidge of value at 8/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 02, 2015, 08:50:03 PM
In Pursuit was NR,   Syrdarya 2nd beaten a nose.  Having one of those spells of backing lots of runners up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on July 03, 2015, 07:13:46 PM
6.30 at haydock 5f, no stalls, favourite does a spin at the start, utter comedy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on July 03, 2015, 11:23:03 PM
kingsgate native (2-00 Sandown) looks a bet tomorrow at 9/1 ew 1/4 odds with corals. Hes got decent sandown form and seems as good as ever. Smaller field size usually suits him, so he doesnt meet traffic and 11 will be fine. ew terms is pretty essential as hes prone to finding a way to lose. A couple shouldnt be in there as theyd be getting chunks one way or another in a handicap from others.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 04, 2015, 02:46:54 PM
Wow. Waady, Both first two would have pulled well clear with smoother passages

V Impressive.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 04, 2015, 02:48:28 PM
Like the money for Dark Crusader in the Lancs Oaks.

Mr Martin been plottng this up perhaps?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 04, 2015, 04:09:58 PM
Wow. Waady, Both first two would have pulled well clear with smoother passages

V Impressive.

Memories of Muthmir in the Portland.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 04, 2015, 04:43:20 PM
I'm sure others will see if differently, but couldn't help feeling that another jockey could have done better on Gatsby.

Frank looked weak next to Frankie in a battle, and held up a little longer could have seen things end in a different result.


I remain truly amazed at how many people trust their top horses with him. Yes, he had had great results, but given the chances he has had, I suspect so would many.


PS, No fiscal involvement in the race! #unbiased


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on July 04, 2015, 05:45:16 PM
I'm sure others will see if differently, but couldn't help feeling that another jockey could have done better on Gatsby.

Frank looked weak next to Frankie in a battle, and held up a little longer could have seen things end in a different result.


I remain truly amazed at how many people trust their top horses with him. Yes, he had had great results, but given the chances he has had, I suspect so would many.


PS, No fiscal involvement in the race! #unbiased

Didn't seem too happy being interviewed by the ex before the race either  :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 04, 2015, 05:46:51 PM
I'm sure others will see if differently, but couldn't help feeling that another jockey could have done better on Gatsby.

Frank looked weak next to Frankie in a battle, and held up a little longer could have seen things end in a different result.


I remain truly amazed at how many people trust their top horses with him. Yes, he had had great results, but given the chances he has had, I suspect so would many.


PS, No fiscal involvement in the race! #unbiased

Didn't seem too happy being interviewed by the ex before the race either  :)


Missed that. Always enjoy watching the pair of them squirm when forced into that situation.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on July 04, 2015, 05:59:56 PM
I'm sure others will see if differently, but couldn't help feeling that another jockey could have done better on Gatsby.

Frank looked weak next to Frankie in a battle, and held up a little longer could have seen things end in a different result.


I remain truly amazed at how many people trust their top horses with him. Yes, he had had great results, but given the chances he has had, I suspect so would many.


PS, No fiscal involvement in the race! #unbiased

Still cant believe hanaggan has the job he does. Every season they have great horse that take the heat off of how bad he is.

Spencer is pretty awful, he should have retired.

I didnt really understand why the great gatsby run in that race giving such a weight pull. Should have withdrawn until later in the season when the weights were different. How is 3/4 11lb, pointless, ruined the race and tbh took all credit for golden horns win over older horses.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 04, 2015, 06:07:04 PM
I'm sure others will see if differently, but couldn't help feeling that another jockey could have done better on Gatsby.

Frank looked weak next to Frankie in a battle, and held up a little longer could have seen things end in a different result.


I remain truly amazed at how many people trust their top horses with him. Yes, he had had great results, but given the chances he has had, I suspect so would many.


PS, No fiscal involvement in the race! #unbiased

Still cant believe hanaggan has the job he does. Every season they have great horse that take the heat off of how bad he is.

Spencer is pretty awful, he should have retired.

I didnt really understand why the great gatsby run in that race giving such a weight pull. Should have withdrawn until later in the season when the weights were different. How is 3/4 11lb, pointless, ruined the race and tbh took all credit for golden horns win over older horses.


TBF mate, the horses need to run during the season, and an awful lot of cash, even for turning up. £100k for coming second, not bad. Sad that Frank gets a chunk of that for what I thought was a poor ride.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on July 04, 2015, 06:18:13 PM
I'm sure others will see if differently, but couldn't help feeling that another jockey could have done better on Gatsby.

Frank looked weak next to Frankie in a battle, and held up a little longer could have seen things end in a different result.


I remain truly amazed at how many people trust their top horses with him. Yes, he had had great results, but given the chances he has had, I suspect so would many.


PS, No fiscal involvement in the race! #unbiased

Still cant believe hanaggan has the job he does. Every season they have great horse that take the heat off of how bad he is.

Spencer is pretty awful, he should have retired.

I didnt really understand why the great gatsby run in that race giving such a weight pull. Should have withdrawn until later in the season when the weights were different. How is 3/4 11lb, pointless, ruined the race and tbh took all credit for golden horns win over older horses.


TBF mate, the horses need to run during the season, and an awful lot of cash, even for turning up. £100k for coming second, not bad. Sad that Frank gets a chunk of that for what I thought was a poor ride.

Think they had plenty of reroutes, GH plan was known and they are flogging the horse a bit now. Doesnt the fact that he never stood a chance help keep a bad jockey in the saddle aswell?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 04, 2015, 06:26:10 PM
I'm sure others will see if differently, but couldn't help feeling that another jockey could have done better on Gatsby.

Frank looked weak next to Frankie in a battle, and held up a little longer could have seen things end in a different result.


I remain truly amazed at how many people trust their top horses with him. Yes, he had had great results, but given the chances he has had, I suspect so would many.


PS, No fiscal involvement in the race! #unbiased

Still cant believe hanaggan has the job he does. Every season they have great horse that take the heat off of how bad he is.

Spencer is pretty awful, he should have retired.

I didnt really understand why the great gatsby run in that race giving such a weight pull. Should have withdrawn until later in the season when the weights were different. How is 3/4 11lb, pointless, ruined the race and tbh took all credit for golden horns win over older horses.


TBF mate, the horses need to run during the season, and an awful lot of cash, even for turning up. £100k for coming second, not bad. Sad that Frank gets a chunk of that for what I thought was a poor ride.

Think they had plenty of reroutes, GH plan was known and they are flogging the horse a bit now. Doesnt the fact that he never stood a chance help keep a bad jockey in the saddle aswell?


Oh yes, for sure. Others will se it as a good ride from Frank and help to perpetuate the myth. Even Dettori said he rode a great race, which I had to laugh at, as he kicked Spencers butt!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on July 09, 2015, 09:24:54 PM
Anyone got anything to recommend for York races tomorrow?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 09, 2015, 09:39:49 PM
I'm sure others will see if differently, but couldn't help feeling that another jockey could have done better on Gatsby.

Frank looked weak next to Frankie in a battle, and held up a little longer could have seen things end in a different result.


I remain truly amazed at how many people trust their top horses with him. Yes, he had had great results, but given the chances he has had, I suspect so would many.


PS, No fiscal involvement in the race! #unbiased

Still cant believe hanaggan has the job he does. Every season they have great horse that take the heat off of how bad he is.

Spencer is pretty awful, he should have retired.

I didnt really understand why the great gatsby run in that race giving such a weight pull. Should have withdrawn until later in the season when the weights were different. How is 3/4 11lb, pointless, ruined the race and tbh took all credit for golden horns win over older horses.

Yuh, Hamdan must be fumming that Richard Hills decided to retire...tbf Hamdan has a lot of mince these days and I wouldn't blame Hanagan for anything.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on July 09, 2015, 09:44:11 PM
I'm sure others will see if differently, but couldn't help feeling that another jockey could have done better on Gatsby.

Frank looked weak next to Frankie in a battle, and held up a little longer could have seen things end in a different result.


I remain truly amazed at how many people trust their top horses with him. Yes, he had had great results, but given the chances he has had, I suspect so would many.


PS, No fiscal involvement in the race! #unbiased

Still cant believe hanaggan has the job he does. Every season they have great horse that take the heat off of how bad he is.

Spencer is pretty awful, he should have retired.

I didnt really understand why the great gatsby run in that race giving such a weight pull. Should have withdrawn until later in the season when the weights were different. How is 3/4 11lb, pointless, ruined the race and tbh took all credit for golden horns win over older horses.

Yuh, Hamdan must be fumming that Richard Hills decided to retire...tbf Hamdan has a lot of mince these days and I wouldn't blame Hanagan for anything.

His loyalty to hills was similar. They would be better off just letting the stable decide. Only seems any real point in retaining someone likely to be better than who the stable would use anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on July 10, 2015, 04:33:05 PM
did that guy really just say he became a man after gelding lolol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 11, 2015, 03:56:16 PM
Fahey's Sporting Life column...

Birchwood goes to Newmarket for the Superlative Stakes and he was a flop last time in Ireland at Naas. If he had not have run there then I would have really been fancying him as I think the seven-furlong trip looks like it will suit. He needs to bounce back as once again it his a hot race.

Dusky Queen and Gabrial are in the Listed event at Chester - we are just trying to get some black type with the former and she has a good draw in stall one. If she finishes in the first three I would be delighted.

The form of Rene Mathis at this track is second to none and just seems to be a better horse here than anywhere else as he loves the place. We are going to take a chance with him in a very competitive race.

Seriously, what is the point?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 11, 2015, 03:57:52 PM
Fahey's Sporting Life column...

Birchwood goes to Newmarket for the Superlative Stakes and he was a flop last time in Ireland at Naas. If he had not have run there then I would have really been fancying him as I think the seven-furlong trip looks like it will suit. He needs to bounce back as once again it his a hot race.

Dusky Queen and Gabrial are in the Listed event at Chester - we are just trying to get some black type with the former and she has a good draw in stall one. If she finishes in the first three I would be delighted.

The form of Rene Mathis at this track is second to none and just seems to be a better horse here than anywhere else as he loves the place. We are going to take a chance with him in a very competitive race.

Seriously, what is the point?


LOL. I did a quick flick to remind myself what he had said.

Pretty much left him alone after all the neg stuff.

What a ****


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 11, 2015, 04:00:11 PM
Wonder if this is what he tells Marwan when he's at Chester and fancies a bet?

Probably gets paid a bucketload for it as well. Should be ashamed taking the cash.

When I was with Raceform On Saturday they spent a huge chunk getting an interview from a top local trainer/former jump jockey. The paper next really had a chance anyway but that didn't help.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 11, 2015, 04:06:54 PM
Yep. In the few years he has been doing it I don't think I have ever read that they really, really fancy it and readers should invest.

Winning interviews on TV often differ a great deal "yes, we fancied that etc", and you think he might give the dog a bone every now and then.

Like you say, I'm surprised SL keep forking out.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on July 11, 2015, 04:08:06 PM

on course prices at York embarrassing


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: treefella on July 14, 2015, 10:27:51 AM
Hi everyone

rarely put horses up as it always seems to give them the kiss of death but today i thought i would send some love to this much in need of a decent winner thread.

820 Lingfield - Misstemper - currently trading around 14s

Some history - Ive been following this one since day 1 as i know the owner whom has been a family friend for decades. The horse is temperamental being a filly that likes things her own way but she definitely has the ability to win off this mark today. We finally have a decent in form strong jockey booked. She needs strong handling as soon as the gates open. She will respond to pressure and hates being passed and will try to find more if pressured enough. Her best run imo was at this track trip when not far behind a listed class horse rated some 36 pounds higher.

Poor runs -  Its been a learning curve and there have been several factors for some terrible runs to be frank. One time on a trip to kempton the horse box broke down and she was sat on the motorway for 3 hours and got extremely fractious in her box. Some weak apprentice jockey bookings have not been the best ideas either. She hates turf especially soft going conditions. Most importantly of all she recently had a breathing operation some 2 months ago which has definitely made a huge impact on her. The two terrible runs in April were put down to her needing the op.
 I feel todays the day , the draw could of been kinder but its not terrible. Shes almost certainly on a winning mark on a track/ surface that will suit so much better. There are a few in the race that look on fair enough marks but i feel our mark is way below where it should be. Im convinced she will go close today but i am pot committed now so to speak.

Fwiw im on win only as ive done enough money backing this one ew before and its not the best idea if we want more on especially so as i think she will win :)   

GL  !


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 14, 2015, 10:41:31 AM
Nice write up Tree. BOL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 14, 2015, 06:48:59 PM
Cheers for the heads up, treefella.

Blame me if it loses, I've chucked my score into the mix, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on July 17, 2015, 08:25:59 PM
breaking news

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKIxthFWUAAB2Ci.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on July 18, 2015, 02:15:20 PM
must be some value in jockey champs, de sousa is riding way above expectation (noone wins a jockey champs on level stake profit). Tough to find a jockey behind him that will stay in the country though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 18, 2015, 02:56:42 PM
Did John Ferguson's mrs have an affair with Aidan O' Brien a fair while back?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on July 18, 2015, 03:06:00 PM
Did John Ferguson's mrs have an affair with Aidan O' Brien a fair while back?

lol we were just laughing at that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 18, 2015, 03:49:34 PM
Did John Ferguson's mrs have an affair with Aidan O' Brien a fair while back?

lol we were just laughing at that.

As if one isn't enough :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on July 18, 2015, 03:51:34 PM
Did John Ferguson's mrs have an affair with Aidan O' Brien a fair while back?

lol we were just laughing at that.

As if one isn't enough :D

He was definetly going for listens record. Its a pretty inappropriate word to repeat when someones interviewing you lol.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 18, 2015, 05:03:50 PM
Did John Ferguson's mrs have an affair with Aidan O' Brien a fair while back?

lol we were just laughing at that.

As if one isn't enough :D

He was definetly going for listens record. Its a pretty inappropriate word to repeat when someones interviewing you lol.

From a well to do English family, and talking like he has spent half his life at Coolmore ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 22, 2015, 06:44:41 PM
Was looking at the 7.10 and in looking back at some of the few races run by this lot so far, I thought Powered would come on a lot from its first run.

It seemed to stumble over the road and then was a touch hampered. Nothing major, but it ran on again at the end and with a bit of experience under its belt, I thought it may do much better this time.

In a race full of inexperienced horses, hopefully it can build on its first effort.

Its 100-1(yes I know its not an optimal ew race ;nanana;) but worth a quid ew on a deathly quiet Weds evening, just in case.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 22, 2015, 07:09:59 PM
Do me for a Lady, gl mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 22, 2015, 08:03:11 PM
Ran okish. Nothing more.

Next.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on July 24, 2015, 11:22:53 AM
Need winners for Newcastle tomorrow please!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: youthnkzR on July 24, 2015, 12:16:23 PM
Hey guys am off to York races tomorrow... does anyone have any fancies rather than me punting random names :P


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on July 24, 2015, 02:04:07 PM
Had a text from a mate this morning stating Rose Red should win the 210 at Uttoxeter today. Ran some good races but not borken his maiden tag as yet, but stable dropped it in grade and the owner works with him. They are on this today apparently. Around the 5/1 mark. Cant see Weather Babe in the 315 at the same meeting being beaten if its takes to the fences, should be a walk in the park on ratings. Evens generally available.

Good Luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on July 25, 2015, 12:00:20 AM
Need winners for Newcastle tomorrow please!

Bump


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: youthnkzR on July 25, 2015, 09:48:27 AM
Need winners for Newcastle tomorrow please!

Make that today ^^


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on July 25, 2015, 11:03:06 AM
Yes, today now!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 25, 2015, 12:05:29 PM
Only ones I like are Honeysuckle Lil, who I have followed since the start.

Rach keeps getting beaten on it, looking like it needs a stronger ride, so v happy to see Andrew Mullen on.

Exclusive Contract was v impressive last time out and looks worth following.


Not v big, but only bets I will have there today. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on July 25, 2015, 12:09:23 PM
Cheers
Go us


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: stumpythefish on July 25, 2015, 01:55:28 PM
Need winners for Newcastle tomorrow please!

Hi honeysuckle woe lass says your her sweet pea good luck x


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on July 25, 2015, 11:03:50 PM
Going to uttox tomorrow to spin up the ladies day winnings from Friday.  Any selections/info more than welcome, ty in advance.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on July 26, 2015, 12:22:25 PM
Going to uttox tomorrow to spin up the ladies day winnings from Friday.  Any selections/info more than welcome, ty in advance.

Thinking of last minute trip there too depending on my good lady's yay or nay.

Does it get busy?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on July 26, 2015, 12:26:50 PM
Going to uttox tomorrow to spin up the ladies day winnings from Friday.  Any selections/info more than welcome, ty in advance.

Thinking of last minute trip there too depending on my good lady's yay or nay.

Does it get busy?

Won't be busy today at all.  It is currently hammering down with rain at mine (12 miles from the track) and rain is forecast all afternoon.  Going is described as good as it was sunny and dry all day yesterday but pretty sure it will be at least good/soft maybe soft by the time of the first race.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2635043


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on July 26, 2015, 12:40:44 PM
One advantage of it pissing down is the wides at BElle Vue morning dogs are hosing up early doors.  Every trap 1 so far totally tailed off last or 2nd last.  Should cover the exs at Uttox this afternoon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on July 26, 2015, 01:16:23 PM
Raining in south notts too - options today were uttoxeter, cider festival and bbq at local or bit of painting.

Painting looks like its a winner with pub later.

AH well uttoxeter another day.

Good luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on July 28, 2015, 10:54:30 PM

I'm very keen on Belardo in the Sussex tomorrow. Seemed that Varian's horses were under a cloud early in the year, running much better now. With the weight allowance it only needs to run up to form to be right there and I reckon there's tons of potential improvement. Ground will be ideal, top class jockey on and we have a great E/W shape. Anyone got any thoughts on the race?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on July 28, 2015, 11:15:07 PM

I'm very keen on Belardo in the Sussex tomorrow. Seemed that Varian's horses were under a cloud early in the year, running much better now. With the weight allowance it only needs to run up to form to be right there and I reckon there's tons of potential improvement. Ground will be ideal, top class jockey on and we have a great E/W shape. Anyone got any thoughts on the race?

In that race youd love to get belardo and arod matched best price and 1/4 3 which is why the 1/4 ones are dodging those two. Thought the ground was going to come up great this week for belardo but it seems to be pretty good.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on July 28, 2015, 11:25:32 PM

I'm very keen on Belardo in the Sussex tomorrow. Seemed that Varian's horses were under a cloud early in the year, running much better now. With the weight allowance it only needs to run up to form to be right there and I reckon there's tons of potential improvement. Ground will be ideal, top class jockey on and we have a great E/W shape. Anyone got any thoughts on the race?

In that race youd love to get belardo and arod matched best price and 1/4 3 which is why the 1/4 ones are dodging those two. Thought the ground was going to come up great this week for belardo but it seems to be pretty good.

OK, I'll look a bit more extensively in to the ground, I took the reported good to soft at face value. I wouldn't be in a hurry to back Arod albeit the EW terms are obviously good.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on July 28, 2015, 11:45:34 PM

I'm very keen on Belardo in the Sussex tomorrow. Seemed that Varian's horses were under a cloud early in the year, running much better now. With the weight allowance it only needs to run up to form to be right there and I reckon there's tons of potential improvement. Ground will be ideal, top class jockey on and we have a great E/W shape. Anyone got any thoughts on the race?

In that race youd love to get belardo and arod matched best price and 1/4 3 which is why the 1/4 ones are dodging those two. Thought the ground was going to come up great this week for belardo but it seems to be pretty good.

OK, I'll look a bit more extensively in to the ground, I took the reported good to soft at face value. I wouldn't be in a hurry to back Arod albeit the EW terms are obviously good.

Think Arod could get an easy lead. His form really isn't that far behind the top rated. I'm playing ew.

Not sure how many times Maxime Guyon has ridden Goodwood but it must be the hardest course in England to ride.

How often have we seen Johnny Foreigner stitched up by the local jocks in big races there in the past?

Couldn't back Solow at 4/6 with stolen money.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on July 29, 2015, 12:15:16 AM

I'm very keen on Belardo in the Sussex tomorrow. Seemed that Varian's horses were under a cloud early in the year, running much better now. With the weight allowance it only needs to run up to form to be right there and I reckon there's tons of potential improvement. Ground will be ideal, top class jockey on and we have a great E/W shape. Anyone got any thoughts on the race?

In that race youd love to get belardo and arod matched best price and 1/4 3 which is why the 1/4 ones are dodging those two. Thought the ground was going to come up great this week for belardo but it seems to be pretty good.

OK, I'll look a bit more extensively in to the ground, I took the reported good to soft at face value. I wouldn't be in a hurry to back Arod albeit the EW terms are obviously good.

Think Arod could get an easy lead. His form really isn't that far behind the top rated. I'm playing ew.

Not sure how many times Maxime Guyon has ridden Goodwood but it must be the hardest course in England to ride.

How often have we seen Johnny Foreigner stitched up by the local jocks in big races there in the past?

Couldn't back Solow at 4/6 with stolen money.

i love an over priced short one but i have to agree here.  Foreigner rocking up to goodwood and its quirks.  Certainly wouldn't be a 4000/6000 for me here.  Much rather be a layer.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on July 29, 2015, 08:48:47 AM
Hi, Goodwood 2.00 is tough long distance race , interesting runner 4 me is SANDS OF FORTUNE still unexposed at 6years old !  raced once for Stoute at 3 years, obs had probs and off for 3 years. decent comeback runs in non handicaps, bit of a guess but twister not a mug, 16s with skybet for a punt?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 29, 2015, 02:44:22 PM
Quite like Big Storm Coming 7-1 4.05 Redcar.  Ran decently lto, short of room at finish, stable going well lately, has won on gd to soft and sire stats suggest soft will suit. On a workable mark.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on July 29, 2015, 02:49:07 PM
Hi, Goodwood 2.00 is tough long distance race , interesting runner 4 me is SANDS OF FORTUNE still unexposed at 6years old !  raced once for Stoute at 3 years, obs had probs and off for 3 years. decent comeback runs in non handicaps, bit of a guess but twister not a mug, 16s with skybet for a punt?

Hats off.

Congrats.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on July 29, 2015, 02:50:35 PM
Hi, Goodwood 2.00 is tough long distance race , interesting runner 4 me is SANDS OF FORTUNE still unexposed at 6years old !  raced once for Stoute at 3 years, obs had probs and off for 3 years. decent comeback runs in non handicaps, bit of a guess but twister not a mug, 16s with skybet for a punt?

Hats off.

Congrats.

yes wd - beat my into second grrrr



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: peejaytwo on July 29, 2015, 07:08:28 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/horse-racing/33709124

sad day


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: WotRTheChances on July 31, 2015, 04:23:40 PM
Any tips for this evening at Newmarket?
I'm heading there this evening and might have a few punts 😜


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on July 31, 2015, 06:39:22 PM
...and when you're done with HQ, any thoughts on the card at t'Doncaster tomorrow much appreciated.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on July 31, 2015, 07:37:59 PM
...and when you're done with HQ, any thoughts on the card at t'Doncaster tomorrow much appreciated.

I usually go for horses carrying 8st 6lbs in the handicaps there.

If there are two or more I would suggest the one in red silks.

Hope you win plenty.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 01, 2015, 05:49:21 PM
Great jockey Richard Hughes. Him and Ryan Moore way clear of the others the last few years imo.

Sure he'll crush as a trainer too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 01, 2015, 05:55:32 PM
Went down to the Tatts a couple of races ago. Seven runner race.

How can one bookie be pricing a horse at 15/2 that everyone else is 12/1? Must be the one without a laptop, who had missed the 14.5 on betfair!! Ink. Red.

Anyway, enough frivolity. Last race magic called for. Grumpy Angel, if you please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 01, 2015, 06:01:10 PM
That went well...

Stick to Strictly Come Dancing and neffle...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 03, 2015, 12:33:47 PM
4.45 Ripon In Pursuit 11/2 Boyles 5/1 general.  Thought this was worth a look, mainly due to some very strong sire stats coupled with a yard in form. Lol sample size and all that, but sire's offspring stats as 2/3yo are 4 wins from 4 runs when stepped up to 12f. Should be fine on ground again based on sire stats.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 03, 2015, 01:23:05 PM
4.45 Ripon In Pursuit 11/2 Boyles 5/1 general.  Thought this was worth a look, mainly due to some very strong sire stats coupled with a yard in form. Lol sample size and all that, but sire's offspring stats as 2/3yo are 4 wins from 4 runs when stepped up to 12f. Should be fine on ground again based on sire stats.

Where are you getting your stats from?  I thought it was interesting and just clicked down the list of Mafki's progency on teh sportinglife website to see if the other offspring's form went 84 or 11 before stepping up.

First one I found that had raced over 12 furlongs was this one

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/profiles/horse/845804/quest-for-wonder (http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/profiles/horse/845804/quest-for-wonder)

This filly has won 3/7, but lost both times (2/3 and 3/4) it has gone 12f and above.  Obv lol sample size too, but if you are relying on the stat for this bet, it seems it isn't as stong as you thought.  It may well still be strong stat though. 

Obviously the race isn't that great and In Pursuit was staying on last time, so could easily win.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 03, 2015, 03:41:42 PM
These are the stats I took from Flatstats for runs on turf, Quest For Wonder was one of the winners at Brighton.

2015-05-03   Salisbury   Mdn       S   3yo   E(5)   12.0f   GdFm   8   Fabricate           M L W Bell   P Cosgrave   1   2.5L   15-8f   2   74.4
2015-05-11   Doncaster           H   3yo   E(5)   12.0f   GdSft   11   Magic Circle(IRE)   R M Beckett   R Kingscote   1   1.5L   3-1f   9   62.5
2015-05-23   Haydock           H   3yo   C(3)   12.0f   GdSft   7   Fabricate           M L W Bell   A Kirby   1   1.8L   100-30   6   63.6
2015-05-29   Brighton           H   3yo   E(5)   12.0f   Soft   4   Quest For WonderJ Tate   Jim Crowley   1   11.0L   15-8   2   74.0




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 03, 2015, 03:58:21 PM

Quest for wonder did run over 12f on AW before its turf run, but the other 3 did win on first run over 12f.  Flatstats is pretty accurate if you ask the correct questions, I was impressed that they had taken non runners into account with their draw stats, so draw 8 actually means 8 from the inside.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on August 05, 2015, 08:50:20 AM
Does anyone know what time the firms will price up the maidens for Thursday


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on August 05, 2015, 04:36:06 PM
Had a rule 4 deduction on a race with PP but I have bet on the same race at the same time with Betfair, Bet365 and Betvictor and not had one.

Why would this be?

Is this ok or should I complain?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 05, 2015, 07:09:44 PM
Had a rule 4 deduction on a race with PP but I have bet on the same race at the same time with Betfair, Bet365 and Betvictor and not had one.

Why would this be?

Is this ok or should I complain?

what price was the horse?  Some firms won't deduct if it's a 5p rule 4


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on August 05, 2015, 07:29:42 PM
Had a rule 4 deduction on a race with PP but I have bet on the same race at the same time with Betfair, Bet365 and Betvictor and not had one.

Why would this be?

Is this ok or should I complain?

what price was the horse?  Some firms won't deduct if it's a 5p rule 4

I dont know what that means sorry.

I bet at

18/1 with Bet365
18/1 BetVictor
16/1 PP
16/1 Betfair Sportsbook.

All within 30 minutes of each other at around 10pm last night.

Two horses withdrew at 8am this morning. (I think they were both 10/1 ish)

and only PP have deducted rule 4 and it says 15%.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on August 05, 2015, 07:53:40 PM
where was this tip bubble :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on August 06, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
Ha sorry I did put it ish on TFT at 8/1 but the tip came from a punter source.

As someone who said in TFT if I backed everyone of his tips I would be broke BUT he was confident on this one.

I only had a small bet myself but got on for him.

Think I've been crying for 24 hours now!

It will get worse as all his money hits my bank accounts!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 07, 2015, 01:25:18 PM
Muss 4.30 looks interesting.
On a par hasnt shown much in his few runs, but looks like been crying out for further, got it today.
Looks like there has been plenty of money for it and they are a shrewd stable, BUT still gotta prove it !
2/1 on a par could turn out to be bet of the year, but overall think these can be opposed.
Quite few of the runners not in any form, and spokesperson gone up in weights a little, (cheekpieces seem to improve)
VITTACHI was beaten nk by spokesperson last time (was vittachis best run for a while) , fergal lynch back on board today and 5 of his 6 wins have been off a higher mark than today, won on this card 2 years ago and if the last run is an indication hes back to form VITTACHI could be a worth a few quid E/W at 8/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 07, 2015, 06:38:06 PM
well we beat the fav home, and turned it around with spokesperson, but were bit unlucky to run into what looks to be a very well handicapped winner.
The winner has a very strange record, looked useless for george moore on flat and over hurdles, 2 bad runs over hurdles for new trainer, then won at 80/1 on return to flat !!
(beat morning fav home, winner was joint fav)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Eso Kral on August 12, 2015, 09:42:56 AM
Any love for

DARK SHOT in the 2.20 Salisbury still some 7/1 available in a few places http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/salisbury/14:20/winner

Led a fair way in a class 2 maiden first time out and JC Smith the owner lives in the Salisbury area with the stats below showing he quite likes a winner at his local track, personally I couldn't see this out of the top 3 but I have been wrong before :(

http://www.racingpost.com/horses/result_home.sd?race_id=630389&r_date=2015-07-24&popup=yes#results_top_tabs=re_&results_bottom_tabs=ANALYSIS

http://www.racingpost.com/horses/owner_home.sd?owner_id=16523#topOwnerTabs=owner_stats_summary&bottomOwnerTabs=owner_stats


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 12, 2015, 01:20:07 PM
Hi Rich,
            Im not a great lover of these races tbh, sooo little form to go on, unless you are heavily into breeding stats/and or have 'good reliable ' info on work at home/ if its a trier blah blah i think the risk/reward ratio when they are only 5-6/1 is not too good, looks like any 3 of 5 could easily fill a spot, and its good to firm today, compared with good to soft, dont let me put you off tho, just my twopenneth worth, good luck  :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Eso Kral on August 12, 2015, 01:25:04 PM
Hi Rich,
            Im not a great lover of these races tbh, sooo little form to go on, unless you are heavily into breeding stats/and or have 'good reliable ' info on work at home/ if its a trier blah blah i think the risk/reward ratio when they are only 5-6/1 is not too good, looks like any 3 of 5 could easily fill a spot, and its good to firm today, compared with good to soft, dont let me put you off tho, just my twopenneth worth, good luck  :)
Hey

No worries obv I was just posting up my thoughts speshly as the 8/1 seemed like it was going and has now well gone so it's not worth getting involved at half the price.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 12, 2015, 01:28:51 PM
No probs, seems like someone fancys it then, trouble unless u know- know its all double guesswork innit?
We might have to wait for some nice novice hurdles for real sneaky e/w races  :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 13, 2015, 03:56:14 PM
Dark shot ran good race Rich.
I like Moohaasib e/w @ 6/1 salis 4.25, penultimate run was a good run, last time out was just a step too much too quickly perhaps.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on August 15, 2015, 02:52:40 PM
even channon using the listens


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 15, 2015, 03:12:07 PM
Enjoyed Fitz describing a horse as "the one next to him, the grey"

They're all greys, Mick.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on August 16, 2015, 01:26:10 PM
Last minute decision to go to ladies day at Southwell with good lady and daughter in law. Any fancies most welcome ta.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on August 16, 2015, 01:51:55 PM
Last minute decision to go to ladies day at Southwell with good lady and daughter in law. Any fancies most welcome ta.

montoyas son improved out of sight last season, would prefer to see it at newcastle but he goes well fresh and seems to find his best for the claimer on board today. Tough weight in a tough race (actually quite a nice race for offseason), but he only just does enough so may not have found the limit of him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 16, 2015, 02:16:52 PM
2.45 Pont   Top Of The Glas.  8-1. Would be more enthusiastic if I could find much fault with the fav who on breeding would be expected to stay this trip, but thought TOTG's close up third to Kinema back in June was quite an eye catching piece of form and was further encouraged by De Sousa's good record at Pontefract.
Smaller win bets on Moonrise Landing 22-1 and Intense Tango 10-1 in the hope that one or more of these will be staying on strongly up the hill.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 16, 2015, 03:38:17 PM
Guess I picked the wrong one to oppose the fav with, Bit of a hard luck story for Intense Tango.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on August 16, 2015, 09:10:57 PM
Last minute decision to go to ladies day at Southwell with good lady and daughter in law. Any fancies most welcome ta.

montoyas son improved out of sight last season, would prefer to see it at newcastle but he goes well fresh and seems to find his best for the claimer on board today. Tough weight in a tough race (actually quite a nice race for offseason), but he only just does enough so may not have found the limit of him.

Just back lovely day out and girls picked 3 winners me none. Thanks for advice.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 17, 2015, 09:37:21 AM
Muss 4.30 looks interesting.
On a par hasnt shown much in his few runs, but looks like been crying out for further, got it today.
Looks like there has been plenty of money for it and they are a shrewd stable, BUT still gotta prove it !
2/1 on a par could turn out to be bet of the year, but overall think these can be opposed.
Quite few of the runners not in any form, and spokesperson gone up in weights a little, (cheekpieces seem to improve)
VITTACHI was beaten nk by spokesperson last time (was vittachis best run for a while) , fergal lynch back on board today and 5 of his 6 wins have been off a higher mark than today, won on this card 2 years ago and if the last run is an indication hes back to form VITTACHI could be a worth a few quid E/W at 8/1.

On A Par goes again in 3.40 at Thirsk today in what would be an excellent e/w race if no further non-runners


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 17, 2015, 01:58:46 PM
Looks like any of the 16 could win it tho !!
Odds of another non runner?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 17, 2015, 02:12:05 PM
Yes, I expect you're right. I did back On A Par and Spokesperson - a horse that looked too big having beaten your fancy Vittachi on it's penultimate start.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 17, 2015, 02:19:42 PM
Good luck with them, spokesperson maybe just bit high in weights? and maybe the novelty of cheekpieces worn off a bit?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 17, 2015, 02:22:38 PM
What you make of the Kempton 3.55?
Few unknows to battle with , first time in handicaps and all, i quite liked Queensbury Oddyssey 15/2 e/w.
His first run in handicap wasnt too bad, the 2nd has won again and he has 1st time blinkers, had a small interset.
Good luck.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 18, 2015, 12:17:05 AM
Fav won well, couldn't of had either of the place horses.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: HutchGF on August 18, 2015, 02:04:29 PM
Naive horse punter here looking for a helping hand!

Having an afternoon in the boozer with my Grandad tomorrow, an avid horse racing fan and I know he's going to want a few punts on the races at York.

Any suggestions?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 18, 2015, 02:14:44 PM
The racing at York tomorrow looks VERY difficult !   The handicaps are all million runner races, the 3.05 has only 7 runners, and the juddmonte fav is odds on. that leaves the 2 year old race with not much form to go on. Go careful, if you want a bit of fun interest do a multiple ew bet in the handicaps at some decent prices, dont expect to get too much out of it tho lol . Good luck.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 18, 2015, 04:17:26 PM
The racing at York tomorrow looks VERY difficult !   The handicaps are all million runner races, the 3.05 has only 7 runners, and the juddmonte fav is odds on. that leaves the 2 year old race with not much form to go on. Go careful, if you want a bit of fun interest do a multiple ew bet in the handicaps at some decent prices, dont expect to get too much out of it tho lol . Good luck.

Looks as good a day's races for betting you could hope for.  Bookies going 1/4 first 4 or 5 in 3 races.  1/4 first 3 in another and if the International stays at 8 runners a blind man could have a good bet. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 18, 2015, 04:28:20 PM
Ah should be easy then doobs  :) !!   what bookies are going first 5?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 18, 2015, 04:39:23 PM
Ah should be easy then doobs  :) !!   what bookies are going first 5?

Think Shy were up in the first.  Could be a couple more later/tomorrow. 

I didn't say it would be easy, just it is as good as if gets.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 18, 2015, 04:45:05 PM
Ah, could be wrong but thought only betfair were, which is obv bit different.
Good luck anyway, adventourous would be one for me, but 5/1 its gotta win to show a profit ew.
Fancy anything particular?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: HutchGF on August 18, 2015, 05:44:30 PM
The racing at York tomorrow looks VERY difficult !   The handicaps are all million runner races, the 3.05 has only 7 runners, and the juddmonte fav is odds on. that leaves the 2 year old race with not much form to go on. Go careful, if you want a bit of fun interest do a multiple ew bet in the handicaps at some decent prices, dont expect to get too much out of it tho lol . Good luck.

Looks as good a day's races for betting you could hope for.  Bookies going 1/4 first 4 or 5 in 3 races.  1/4 first 3 in another and if the International stays at 8 runners a blind man could have a good bet. 

This is good news, as I am effectively a blind man when it comes to horse racing. I'll just punt small ew on a few of the big field races and see if I get lucky. Cheers for the advice guys.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 19, 2015, 11:15:36 AM
Corals were 15/2 Adventurous, think sporting bet ? are still, that will do for me e/w.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 19, 2015, 12:59:22 PM

I've gone for Robot Boy and Bogart with WH 5 places in the 1.55 and Roaring Forties 5 places with BFSB in the 4.55


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 19, 2015, 03:53:38 PM
im out of form, couldnt pick me nose !
That last race was a cracking run from storm the stars, seeing as hes had  a busy season already, very good win.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 21, 2015, 03:05:48 PM
Bet Spencer would love to have slapped Rishi straight in the chops then :D

What was Rishi expecting him to say?

'I was made up with the result'


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 21, 2015, 04:09:21 PM
Acapulco beat easton angel easily, which is now rated 105,  taking that literally she is about a stone and half  well in!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 21, 2015, 04:11:33 PM
also like pearl secret e/w at 18/1 - first 4 places


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on August 22, 2015, 04:22:11 PM
obviously listen


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on September 17, 2015, 01:05:49 PM
why would this have happened to luca cumani?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPGdjJBXAAAZVeF.png)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on September 18, 2015, 02:01:10 AM
why would this have happened to luca cumani?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPGdjJBXAAAZVeF.png)

Sheikhs are always taking their ball home but considering the absolute muck he owns and cumani won him the king george and a decent race in france at the weekend, culminating in a live arc contender the timing seems very strange. Why change postponed stable three weeks before the arc?

TBH have wondered a few times when obaid has been on tv if he  had poor english or was unhinged as his decisions seem to be based on flimsy biases at best.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on September 19, 2015, 10:09:23 AM
Anyone got any Saturday tips or picks?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 19, 2015, 11:49:29 AM
Anyone got any Saturday tips or picks?

I was quite keen on my old friend Rivellino in The Ayr Gold Cup today but unfortunately Mr Seagull has put it up in pricewise and the price has shrunk.

It might still be just about okay EW @16/1 12345.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on September 19, 2015, 12:07:25 PM
Anyone got any Saturday tips or picks?

I was quite keen on my old friend Rivellino in The Ayr Gold Cup today but unfortunately Mr Seagull has put it up in pricewise and the price has shrunk.

It might still be just about okay EW @16/1 12345.

That will do for me!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on September 20, 2015, 08:58:09 AM
Anyone got any Saturday tips or picks?

I was quite keen on my old friend Rivellino in The Ayr Gold Cup today but unfortunately Mr Seagull has put it up in pricewise and the price has shrunk.

It might still be just about okay EW @16/1 12345.

That will do for me!

RALPH!!  :dontask:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on September 20, 2015, 09:38:00 AM
Anything for uttox today would be appreciated


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 20, 2015, 11:07:08 AM
Anyone got any Saturday tips or picks?

I was quite keen on my old friend Rivellino in The Ayr Gold Cup today but unfortunately Mr Seagull has put it up in pricewise and the price has shrunk.

It might still be just about okay EW @16/1 12345.

That will do for me!

RALPH!!  :dontask:

It was just behind the leaders going into the final furlong but instead of going whoooosh it did something else.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 25, 2015, 10:00:58 AM

Choc Thornton retires from the saddle due to injuries.             

The courage these NH jockeys have is extraordinary, & it's sad that so many get badly injured along the way.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPalAntWEAARB6S.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on September 25, 2015, 12:30:43 PM
Jezki will miss this season, trainer Jessica Harrington has revealed

Jezki had been general favourite for the Ladbrokes World Hurdle


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: scotty2hatty on September 25, 2015, 03:38:02 PM
Ryan Moore is a charasmatic sort!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on September 25, 2015, 03:39:21 PM
In the interview just shown between Emma and Ryan Moore why has he refused to say what happened to his neck?

Talking with Nick afterwards it certainly seems that Emma had to work hard to get him to answer even a few questions.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 25, 2015, 04:20:48 PM
In the interview just shown between Emma and Ryan Moore why has he refused to say what happened to his neck?

Talking with Nick afterwards it certainly seems that Emma had to work hard to get him to answer even a few questions.

They had one earlier, and he wasn't all that bad.

He's notoriously cagey with the media, though.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on September 25, 2015, 04:40:18 PM

Choc Thornton retires from the saddle due to injuries.             

The courage these NH jockeys have is extraordinary, & it's sad that so many get badly injured along the way.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPalAntWEAARB6S.jpg)

Somewhere, right now, BigAdz is opening a bottle of bubbly and smoking a rather large Havana cigar.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on September 25, 2015, 05:55:13 PM
Off to Newmarket tomorrow - never been so really looking forward to the day.

Any tips or fancies eagerly sought.

Cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on September 26, 2015, 06:25:59 PM
nasty incident in last at newmarket


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on October 16, 2015, 03:01:12 PM
Have been waiting for Hairdryer (420pm Haydock today) to go into a nursery handicap. Well weighted, ideal distance and the ground drying out and not too soft. Good apprentice on board and Hannon sent it up to Haydock to strike. Recommend 5pts win today. 7/2 general, some 4/1 still about.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on October 17, 2015, 05:59:25 PM
naughty from easterby at catterick.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 17, 2015, 06:12:35 PM
Having it right off this afternoon.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on October 20, 2015, 08:55:23 PM
for those who showed an interest in my last post - attheraces- she will be running at the same course as last time - 1st week in november - if the grounds soft or its raining we should go better than last time


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on October 20, 2015, 10:51:08 PM
Will keep a look out , good luck.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on October 22, 2015, 10:24:42 PM
Need tips for tomorrow Doncaster race meet.

Need to impress my staff at work!! Help


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on October 22, 2015, 10:53:02 PM
Need tips for tomorrow Doncaster race meet.

Need to impress my staff at work!! Help

Impress them by having the discretion to not have a bet tomorrow, whilst sipping white Russians and mimosa's in the bar. Then bet the absolute farm on Deauville E/W in The Racing Post Trophy the following day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on October 25, 2015, 04:24:56 PM
Looks like we lost rahjani express at aintree there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 25, 2015, 07:03:54 PM
Looks like we lost rahjani express at aintree there.

Yeah, terrible shame.

Only 8 years old, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 25, 2015, 07:46:45 PM
Looks like we lost rahjani express at aintree there.

Yeah, terrible shame.

Only 8 years old, too.

Missed that although I watched the race allbeit on a very stacatto stream.

Lovely brown horse and usually a very good jumper too. Sad.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 27, 2015, 09:19:13 PM
Came across this https://steeplechasing.wordpress.com/2015/10/25/farewell-rajdhani-express/ and thought it was worth sharing.


I don’t blog often these days, but couldn’t let the passing of my old favourite, Rajdhani Express go unmarked. He suffered a fatal injury today after jumping the eleventh fence in the Old Roan Chase at Aintree, the scene of his greatest victory just over 6 months ago, when he won the Topham over the Grand National fences.

The bonny looking brown gelding first caught my eye when he won the novices’ handicap chase at the festival in 2013. I’ve followed him since through thick and (mostly) thin. I was convinced for some time he had a Ryanair in him, and backed him at fat prices for the 2014 running, where he finished 3rd, beaten just under 5 lengths by Dynaste. I backed him again ante-post (and tipped him numerous times here and on Twitter) for the 2015 running, but he had an unusual season, and it became apparent halfway through that connections would go down the handicap route.

Every time he ran he carried my cash, and I was as frustrated for the horse as I was for myself that his luck never seemed in. He unseated in the Old Roan on his seasonal debut, then raced so keenly at Ascot he exhausted himself by two out. He was keen again next time in the Peterborough Chase, and finished lame. He showed much more of his talent next time at Kempton in his first attempt at three miles, when a first-time hood helped him settle much better. But the ground was awful that day, and he faded badly in the closing stages. Still, he seemed to be coming right for Cheltenham, and I backed  him ante-post for The Festival Plate.

But he was luckless again there, meeting some trouble in running at a vital point and finding himself shuffled back through the pack to a very difficult pitch. Sam Waley-Cohen wisely accepted things as soon as it happened and let him come home in his own time. He finished full of running in 8th, beaten under 8 lengths. I’d said here before this race that Cheltenham was his last chance saloon, but I remained convinced that all he needed was a change of luck.

So out came the wallet and back in I went at 14s for The Topham. He’d started the season on a mark of 158 and raced at Aintree off 152. His claiming rider, Sam Waley-Cohen, son of the owner, Robert, has one of the best records over the big fences of any jockey, pro or amateur, and I think he could easily hold his own as a professional. He’s the only amateur ever to win a King George VI Chase (twice on Long Run). And he’s the only amateur in the past 30 years to win a Cheltenham Gold Cup (Long Run).

Watching him ride that Topham showed just why he’s so successful over the National fences. Rather than holding a line on the inside or outside, his aim always was to stay safe, and he’d weave around to wherever he felt in least danger of being brought down (he avoided a five-horse melee at the Canal Turn). It was plain a long way out that the fine-jumping gelding wouldn’t be beaten, and, aside from winning back everything times ten I’d bet on him, I was  delighted that it had all finally come together for the horse and his connections.

At 14s he was also the first leg of a £10 double for me, which I’d placed on both my biggest Festival disappointments, ‘just in case’ (regular punters will know the philosophy well). The second leg, at 28/1, was Many Clouds for the National. Forgive the after-timing, but it helps demonstrate just why I was so fond of this horse.

Rajdhani Express raced 27 times (including today). His first official rating was 135. He started today off 160, his highest ever rating. You’ll know by now that I believe he should have won more than 6 times (2 hurdles. 4 Chases). Still just 8, he’d have carried my cash again for the Festival and Aintree this season, because all I ever thought he needed was a bit of good luck. Today he had the worst. I’ll miss him.

Joe


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on October 27, 2015, 09:25:58 PM
That just seems like a longwinded bragpost?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 27, 2015, 09:28:42 PM
That just seems like a longwinded bragpost?

Not how I took it, but w/e floats your boat.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on October 28, 2015, 02:06:08 PM
It would appear Legend lady is good enough to 'just' have to jump round to win the fake 1.40, is 5/6 enough price good without knowing how well she jumps at home? the trainer / jockey combo do well here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on October 30, 2015, 12:28:56 PM
off to uttox today if anyone likes anything.  I really like Suit yourself in the 2nd.  Geraghty and Jonjo dont team up mid week at uttox very often.  Looks his main ride out of 2 and Jonjo's main chance out of his 3 runners.  Should get a price as well as there has been money for the hobbs horse.

McCain's only raider has been gambled which is interesting in teh 225pm

Midight Sapphire is interesting in the 335pm.  Long distance traveller.  Trainer got a good strike rate in these races at uttox and jockey takes off 10 lbs.  Hasn't ridden the beast previously which is interesting.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 30, 2015, 01:14:34 PM
off to uttox today if anyone likes anything.  I really like Suit yourself in the 2nd.  Geraghty and Jonjo dont team up mid week at uttox very often.  Looks his main ride out of 2 and Jonjo's main chance out of his 3 runners.  Should get a price as well as there has been money for the hobbs horse.

McCain's only raider has been gambled which is interesting in teh 225pm

Midight Sapphire is interesting in the 335pm.  Long distance traveller.  Trainer got a good strike rate in these races at uttox and jockey takes off 10 lbs.  Hasn't ridden the beast previously which is interesting.

Not even looked at a racecard today, but will chuck a trixie on yours ;D

Have a good one, and gl!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on October 30, 2015, 01:21:30 PM
off to uttox today if anyone likes anything.  I really like Suit yourself in the 2nd.  Geraghty and Jonjo dont team up mid week at uttox very often.  Looks his main ride out of 2 and Jonjo's main chance out of his 3 runners.  Should get a price as well as there has been money for the hobbs horse.

McCain's only raider has been gambled which is interesting in teh 225pm

Midight Sapphire is interesting in the 335pm.  Long distance traveller.  Trainer got a good strike rate in these races at uttox and jockey takes off 10 lbs.  Hasn't ridden the beast previously which is interesting.

was surprised at price of cd winner royal sea was double figures in the second race.

More of a watching brief at uttox for me, 3pm the two shorties are very interesting chasers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: NoCardDSC on October 30, 2015, 01:37:28 PM
6:40 Wolves - The Wallace line
7/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on October 31, 2015, 03:20:25 PM
Ascot 2.50 Unanimite is interesting. Never got into race at chelt, didnt do much after but they have kept with it and could go well here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on October 31, 2015, 03:43:45 PM
Inexperience showed a bit, but decent run


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on October 31, 2015, 03:43:50 PM
Ascot 2.50 Unanimite is interesting. Never got into race at chelt, didnt do much after but they have kept with it and could go well here.

unl, winner cant jump but hacking round vs a listed winner over 1m4 on flat wasnt the brightest from others.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on October 31, 2015, 03:50:53 PM
Im with ballynagour for reasons as stated on tipsfortikay thread,should be a cracker of race even with depleted field


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on November 03, 2015, 07:00:04 PM
Meant to have had the princess running this week - she would have had a real shot at improving on her 3rd last time out.

Unfortunately - both the princess and the boy have come down with a cold - hopefully they will both be okay in a couple of weeks.

Will post when they return to health.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 13, 2015, 11:58:32 AM
A couple of interesting novices' races at Cheltenham today especially the 'chase at 1.40pm which looks to be a pretty competitive event with the long-awaited return of More Of That which benefitted from Annie Powers' blunder at the last to win the 2014 World Hurdle.

I'm taking a chance at a decent price on Ballyalton not "bouncing" after an encouraging comeback run last time out.

Proper racing is back.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on November 13, 2015, 12:25:42 PM
Lovely card for a miserable Friday.

Two nice fancies for today, Josie's orders in the 1450 at Cheltenham. Around the 7/2mark, the trainer is a cross country specialist, this one has had a prep race and has shown huge potential to be one of the big players in these types of races for the coming year. What i have read from the stable and the post over the last few months, is that this horse is going to be in for a good year with a little luck and good placements. 5 points win at 7/2 recommended.

Cheltenham 4pm race: Super Duty at 8/1 General- Only a nine year old, but has contested some hot handicaps in the last few years. Always highly thought of, had a year off, and had a nice easy season last year culminating in a runout in the national. Good jockey on board for these types of races and is expected to have a good season ahead if staying injury free. 2points win.

Good luck if playing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on November 13, 2015, 12:27:03 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/hexham/13:50/winner

I have been told to back timeforfirth in this race by a guy who rarely gives me horse selections. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 13, 2015, 01:12:40 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/hexham/13:50/winner

I have been told to back timeforfirth in this race by a guy who rarely gives me horse selections. 

HiArb,
          Looks a dire race, timeforfirths form hasn't amounted to much, but the fav has disapointed a couple of times.
         Presenting rose does look like it could have some improvement , good luck if you go with it, if we knew the fav was no good would be able to go 2nd and 3rd in against it, if its just his opinion diff matter, good luck.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on November 13, 2015, 01:55:44 PM
A couple of interesting novices' races at Cheltenham today especially the 'chase at 1.40pm which looks to be a pretty competitive event with the long-awaited return of More Of That which benefitted from Annie Powers' blunder at the last to win the 2014 World Hurdle.

think you are confusing races, between the world hurdle and the mares race at the festival.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 13, 2015, 02:20:52 PM
A couple of interesting novices' races at Cheltenham today especially the 'chase at 1.40pm which looks to be a pretty competitive event with the long-awaited return of More Of That which benefitted from Annie Powers' blunder at the last to win the 2014 World Hurdle.

think you are confusing races, between the world hurdle and the mares race at the festival.

Correct. It must be anno domini catching up with me.

The blunder was in the mares but the placings remain unaltered in the WH.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 13, 2015, 02:37:34 PM
Poor run from Ballyalton, might well have bounced although the trainer was keen on his chances today.

 ;marks;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on November 13, 2015, 02:50:22 PM
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/hexham/13:50/winner

I have been told to back timeforfirth in this race by a guy who rarely gives me horse selections. 

Lot of early money for it but friendless on the off.  Amazing race the fav drifted from 1/2 to 2/1 pre race.  two rags come first and second.  Next case.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 13, 2015, 03:12:43 PM
could of been a 'get up' race......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on November 13, 2015, 03:12:49 PM
Shantou village hugely impressive.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 13, 2015, 03:14:07 PM
Neil Mullholland has done really as a trainer, esp since getting his own yard.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 13, 2015, 03:15:09 PM
Got one over on his old 'landlord' too ...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on November 13, 2015, 03:21:37 PM
Couldnt really understand why ferguson ran PP over 2m5f, just assumed he knew best. He said he could simply switch back to 2m but cant help but thinking hes chose a strange horse to gamble with, considering how PP went to bits on the flat. Hopefully he hasnt ruined him to avoid running two of his better ones against him as having these nice types in hurdles make its more interesting.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on November 13, 2015, 03:50:44 PM
nice bet actonbeech


edited- gave wrong person credit lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Actonbeech3 on November 13, 2015, 04:07:24 PM
Thanks-great ride from Nina, and how lucky was it to stay on its fee when a)it hammered the fence b)the horse in front came down in front of it and it hurdled the jockey, then c)the horse slipped on the bend and nearly took it down. Was destined to win that. Lots more to come, now need Super Duty for doubles and Trebles with that and more of that. :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: baldock92 on November 14, 2015, 09:44:59 AM
Off to Uttoxeter races today if anyone has any horses they fancy? Thought I'd ask you lot before I spunk it all away on a 66/1 outsider.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 14, 2015, 01:00:08 PM
In the 2.15 MENACE could be much better than he has shown, doesnt look like it has ever been put in the race yet, has shown some promise in his runs, and gets in with low weight, BUT
1) dont mean today is the day
2) might not be any good anyway
3) ladbrokes are miles bigger than anyone else, not norm a good sign.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on November 15, 2015, 05:14:04 PM
run better nico de boinville


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on November 15, 2015, 05:16:57 PM
In the 2.15 MENACE could be much better than he has shown, doesnt look like it has ever been put in the race yet, has shown some promise in his runs, and gets in with low weight, BUT
1) dont mean today is the day
2) might not be any good anyway
3) ladbrokes are miles bigger than anyone else, not norm a good sign.


It isn't 1985 anymore.  This is usually an amazing sign 2012 onwards for a winning punter providing you can get on across most sports.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 15, 2015, 09:38:43 PM
Laddies knew ! :)

Harry Cobden the young lad that rode Nicholls winner will deff be a jockey for the future, watched him quite a few time last point to point season have many winners, very cool and calm.
Likes to hold em up a bit tho.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobAlike on November 17, 2015, 06:57:21 PM
Any good online bookie promotions on at the moment for new accounts?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 17, 2015, 07:06:40 PM
Any good online bookie promotions on at the moment for new accounts?

Bet 365 do a 100% match up to £200

There is an old thread somewhere, which was started by Evilpie.

He chronicled from start to account closure, which was about half a dozen bets IIRC :D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on November 17, 2015, 07:08:54 PM
Any good online bookie promotions on at the moment for new accounts?

Bet 365 do a 100% match up to £200

There is an old thread somewhere, which was started by Evilpie.

He chronicled from start to account closure, which was about half a dozen bets IIRC :D



Needs a 4 times roll over i think to cash it out if it is like it used to be.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobAlike on November 17, 2015, 10:32:23 PM
Any good online bookie promotions on at the moment for new accounts?

Bet 365 do a 100% match up to £200

There is an old thread somewhere, which was started by Evilpie.

He chronicled from start to account closure, which was about half a dozen bets IIRC :D



Thanks, I used 365 for my last scoop (thin) So need a new one.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on November 19, 2015, 11:00:24 AM
sheena west racing gambles today

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUKqT-OUcAEsB8T.png)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 19, 2015, 11:02:20 AM
sheena west racing gambles today

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUKqT-OUcAEsB8T.png)

Lol at Hills having them all at evens

It is unlikely any of these have ever seen Sheenas yard tbh owned by husband of ex trainer MRS D STEELE. Landed a few touches over the years



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on November 19, 2015, 11:21:08 AM
sheena west racing gambles today

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUKqT-OUcAEsB8T.png)

Lol at Hills having them all at evens

It is unlikely any of these have ever seen Sheenas yard tbh owned by husband of ex trainer MRS D STEELE. Landed a few touches over the years



Well Painted is 5.3/5.4 on the exchange, but near evens with most bookies.  Tee it up Tommo 7/2 there too.  Not checked the other too.  Remarkable scenes. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 26, 2015, 08:47:25 AM
Taunton 1.45 Fountains blossom is very interesting, not been sighted in novice races, first handicap got in low and stepped up almost a mile in trip.
Trainer and jockey in good form, but the bookies have it about 7/2 fav, would be a nice one to know about.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on November 26, 2015, 09:07:37 AM
sheena west racing gambles today

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUKqT-OUcAEsB8T.png)

Lol at Hills having them all at evens

It is unlikely any of these have ever seen Sheenas yard tbh owned by husband of ex trainer MRS D STEELE. Landed a few touches over the years



Well Painted is 5.3/5.4 on the exchange, but near evens with most bookies.  Tee it up Tommo 7/2 there too.  Not checked the other too.  Remarkable scenes. 

I had forgotten about this.  Last, 2nd last, last, pulled up. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 26, 2015, 10:06:45 AM
Taunton 1.45 Fountains blossom is very interesting, not been sighted in novice races, first handicap got in low and stepped up almost a mile in trip.
Trainer and jockey in good form, but the bookies have it about 7/2 fav, would be a nice one to know about.


Into 2/1 now !


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 26, 2015, 07:05:59 PM
Fountains ran very well, looked winner for a lot of the way, mistake at last didnt help,and then started to hang a bit, but the winner (captainofindustry) looks a decent enough prospect, prob be better when chasing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 30, 2015, 01:37:37 PM
Had a great weekends racing, went to Newbury for the Hennessy on Saturday, then to the point to point to watch Victoria Pendleton have her first ride in that code. She is actually tiny, even for jockey standards, nice tho  :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 02, 2015, 01:25:57 AM
5.15 start for The National?

Can't recall what position the sun is in at that time normally, but is there not a chance of racing's old enemy, Mr Low Sun, being a possible spectator?

I'm sure they have thought of this..........haven't they?!

What a farce if they end up bypassing half of the fences. Lol.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on December 02, 2015, 01:36:08 AM
5.15 start for The National?

Can't recall what position the sun is in at that time normally, but is there not a chance of racing's old enemy, Mr Low Sun, being a possible spectator?

I'm sure they have thought of this..........haven't they?!

What a farce if they end up bypassing half of the fences. Lol.

Clocks go forward on the last weekend of March. Low sun won't be a problem in early April at 5.15.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on December 02, 2015, 01:47:02 AM
Racing finally waking up to its spot in the natural pecking order of modern day sports.  515pm fits in perfectly between 3pm kick offs and 530pm late sky sports game.  Suits all parties/stakeholders financially i would imagine.  Can't remotely see what difference it makes having it at 415pm or 515pm to 99% of punters.  If more punters bet on it at 515pm then 515pm it is.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on December 02, 2015, 01:50:06 AM
5.15 start for The National?

Can't recall what position the sun is in at that time normally, but is there not a chance of racing's old enemy, Mr Low Sun, being a possible spectator?

I'm sure they have thought of this..........haven't they?!

What a farce if they end up bypassing half of the fences. Lol.

Clocks go forward on the last weekend of March. Low sun won't be a problem in early April at 5.15.

Sunset on April 1st was 7.42pm.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 02, 2015, 06:58:30 AM
Excellent. Ty.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on December 02, 2015, 07:06:21 AM
I was in a prawn sandwich box at Spurs v Villa last year. The football was so bad, we all turned around and watched the National on the TV instead of the football...




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on December 02, 2015, 08:37:57 AM
What difference will it make?

About 3 extra pints..


Would not want to be the old bill at 6pm. Usually a lot of the potential troublemakers leave after the national. With it now being 515 can see a lot more trouble sadly


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 04, 2015, 03:48:52 PM
I quite like the look of Special Tiara in tomorrow's depleted Tingle Creek.

De Bromhead's string are running really well.

It's a terrific jumper, has had a pipe-opener and it's a C+D winner.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on December 04, 2015, 08:19:18 PM
5.15 start for The National?

Can't recall what position the sun is in at that time normally, but is there not a chance of racing's old enemy, Mr Low Sun, being a possible spectator?

I'm sure they have thought of this..........haven't they?!

What a farce if they end up bypassing half of the fences. Lol.

Cant see it being an issue as cheltenham festival has races at this time on the chase course a month before. Low sun tends to be worse issue earlier in the season. TBH would be more concerned that the rest of the card isnt going to get watched by anyone, meaning it is unnecessary to produce as high a quality support card.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 05, 2015, 02:42:59 PM
Afternoon

While the Girlies are getting all excited about X Factor/Strictly and IACGMOOH, time to slip in the back door and make my last recommend of the year here.

On my travels I was told the stable were very keen on the chances of Highland Lodge for the Beecher Chase on Saturday.

It has always seemed to me a horse that promises a lot and threatens to have a big one in him, but has almost regressed over the last couple of seasons. However, he ran well LTO when not fully wound up for a race at Chepstow(hmm, I think I may have tipped the 16-1 winner of that. ;)). It was also his first time with the visor on which they feel helped him maintain concentration.

On Saturday, I am hoping the fences will play into his strengths as a generally good jumper. He should have very little weight, and he is rated a few pounds lower than his last win. At 8 he can still have improvement left in him, and he appears to go on any ground. Hopefully the visor will continue to help.

Whilst Aspell is riding these big races superbly atm, I would prefer to see Aiden on him, as he seems to have a better rapport with the horse. I don't see what else he would ride, based on recent performances, but Venitia may have something to say about that. We shall see nearer the time.

With several of the prominent names on the betting list likely to miss the race after recent exertions, I am liking the 20-1 on offer e/w, and have had as much as I dare on at this stage. Have a good week and GL.

Ads, cheers once again.

I have some at 20s if you need more? Also can i offer £20 E/W to TFT?



Bit of a kick in the teeth. Only a year too early.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on December 05, 2015, 03:09:12 PM
He jumped them really well, other connections must be devastated after seeing correct front running tactics used this year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 05, 2015, 03:38:56 PM
He jumped them really well, other connections must be devastated after seeing correct front running tactics used this year.


All the way round I was hovering over betfair, and just couldnt pull the trigger.

oh well.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on December 05, 2015, 03:54:34 PM
He jumped them really well, other connections must be devastated after seeing correct front running tactics used this year.


All the way round I was hovering over betfair, and just couldnt pull the trigger.

oh well.



It's firmly in the first world problems category but it was so annoying to watch, I can't believe we weren't on it.

Lots to like about the Many Clouds performance, rock solid for another tilt at the National.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 05, 2015, 03:55:14 PM
Surely ST wins that if not impeded at the last.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on December 05, 2015, 04:02:24 PM
Surely ST wins that if not impeded at the last.
t
I didn't think so, he lost more ground than he lost by, so arguably they should reverse it but I thought SDG had a decent bit up his sleeve.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on December 05, 2015, 04:03:22 PM
Surely ST wins that if not impeded at the last.

He still had the chance to pass and he couldnt imo, maybe you could say his loss of momentum but think SDG would have held him (not bothered financial either way).

Dont really see races taken for stuff that happens at fences, interesting.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: jakally on December 05, 2015, 04:31:18 PM
Surely ST wins that if not impeded at the last.
t
I didn't think so, he lost more ground than he lost by, so arguably they should reverse it but I thought SDG had a decent bit up his sleeve.

Don't think they ever reverse it Ralph, but I thought he would probably have got there without the interference. Very unlucky.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 05, 2015, 04:45:15 PM
Surely ST wins that if not impeded at the last.
t
I didn't think so, he lost more ground than he lost by, so arguably they should reverse it but I thought SDG had a decent bit up his sleeve.

This. Went away again at the end. Prob idling when wandered at fence.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 05, 2015, 04:46:10 PM
Surely ST wins that if not impeded at the last.
t
I didn't think so, he lost more ground than he lost by, so arguably they should reverse it but I thought SDG had a decent bit up his sleeve.

Don't think they ever reverse it Ralph, but I thought he would probably have got there without the interference. Very unlucky.

Agreed. I didn't really expect them to reverse the placings.

I did think it was just building up a decent enough head of steam to prevail up that hill though. A shrewder jockey might also have been aware of SDG's tendency to jump left and challenged on the other side.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 07, 2015, 11:04:13 AM
I've got to have some money on Tap Night up at Musselburgh today.

Down to a Class 3 for first time in almost 3 years, this JP Mac horse has had more failed gambles than I can recall. It must keep showing something at home. Hopefully the easier tempo and quality of opposition at this level will help see a change in his fortunes.

Tom Scu has clearly gone up there for the ride(probably picked up his other to pad the day out, as he has no stable rides).

He may just be gone, but for a horse that has gone off at lower prices than he is today, in top class races, the 9-1 dotted about now, looks tempting, especially for those of us that haven't been burnt before!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Weetabix on December 07, 2015, 03:16:06 PM
 :)up. Thanks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on December 07, 2015, 03:16:28 PM
I've got to have some money on Tap Night up at Musselburgh today.

Down to a Class 3 for first time in almost 3 years, this JP Mac horse has had more failed gambles than I can recall. It must keep showing something at home. Hopefully the easier tempo and quality of opposition at this level will help see a change in his fortunes.

Tom Scu has clearly gone up there for the ride(probably picked up his other to pad the day out, as he has no stable rides).

He may just be gone, but for a horse that has gone off at lower prices than he is today, in top class races, the 9-1 dotted about now, looks tempting, especially for those of us that haven't been burnt before!

Well done Adz and thanks.

Great ride.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 07, 2015, 03:17:49 PM
That was rather nice wasn't it. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on December 07, 2015, 03:30:11 PM
:)up. Thanks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 07, 2015, 04:53:06 PM
Nice one, Adz!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on December 07, 2015, 05:58:30 PM
ty


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 10, 2015, 08:29:15 PM
Evening.

I know its a real horses for courses event, but I can't help feeling On His Own looks vastly overpriced in the X Country event tomorrow.

Its a flatish weights event and he has over a stone in hand on official ratings, albeit over regulation obstacles.

On his debut over the X country course at Punchestown, he went off a short favourite against the likes of Quantativeasing(fav for the March Cheltenham event) and Love Rory,who runs today.

On the face of it he didnt perform terribly well, but having watched it a couple more times, he jumped well in the main, but had problems at all the banks fences. I suspect when trainers try out these types of fences they put horses over one at a time, and so first time over the banks they aren't used to other horses around them. I am prepared to give him as chance, as I am sure Mullins will have worked on it.

He may flop, but at 12-1 he looks worth an ew chance.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on December 13, 2015, 03:41:44 PM
pin de reu breaks he national curse, over hurdles in unsurprisingly heavy ground at carlisle. Very strange betting pattern in 240 at carlisle.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 17, 2015, 10:03:14 PM
Have backed Kaki De Le Pree for the Welsh National.

Gonna have a feather weight and seems to run his race every time.

Looked tailor made for this for some while. Has a Cheppy win under his belt and looks to be the sort of grinder that will love the step up from 3miles.

14s only left wth Lads. EW naturally.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on December 20, 2015, 03:04:31 PM
Hi Adz, i thought Emperors Choice could go well again at 14s in welsh national, doesnt have much racing now seems they have kept him for this again.
Gin and tonic looks hard to beat fake 2.20 now it has cut up not much of a price tho.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: NigDawG on December 21, 2015, 05:04:58 PM
Have backed Kaki De Le Pree for the Welsh National.

Gonna have a feather weight and seems to run his race every time.

Looked tailor made for this for some while. Has a Cheppy win under his belt and looks to be the sort of grinder that will love the step up from 3miles.

14s only left wth Lads. EW naturally.

pulled from the race today, not right at home apparently.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 22, 2015, 01:39:58 AM
Cheers for this Chris.

Apols if you got involved anyone.

Hate not even getting a chance to be proved wrong.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 22, 2015, 08:44:18 AM
Cheers for this Chris.

Apols if you got involved anyone.

Hate not even getting a chance to be proved wrong.

****

;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on December 22, 2015, 08:48:36 AM
Cheers for this Chris.

Apols if you got involved anyone.

Hate not even getting a chance to be proved wrong.

Your tips are excellent and gratefully received, no need for apologies.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 22, 2015, 09:33:17 AM
shotgun paddy only runs as a warm up for the welsh national

Adz text me on Tuesday, to say that he had been down at Emma Lavelle's with Rog Brookhouse that afternoon.

He said that they were very keen on SP for the WN, and then Segal put it up in the Racing Post on Thursday.




Do I smell a repeat of the Highland Lodge saga, where I got there a year too early?!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 22, 2015, 09:40:06 AM
Thanks kukush.

Hi atdc. You are certainly in the box seat with EC now. The pedant in me won't me going to the party having missed the wedding, but the form is all there, and looked as good as ever in his reappearance at Haydock.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 22, 2015, 10:19:29 AM
shotgun paddy only runs as a warm up for the welsh national

Adz text me on Tuesday, to say that he had been down at Emma Lavelle's with Rog Brookhouse that afternoon.

He said that they were very keen on SP for the WN, and then Segal put it up in the Racing Post on Thursday.




Do I smell a repeat of the Highland Lodge saga, where I got there a year too early?!!

I hope not, but might have to throw a few pennies on to pay for a few curries, just in case.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 22, 2015, 01:13:39 PM
Interesting couple of stories emerged in last 24, to me at least.

Very pleased to see Dazzler Holland coming back to ride for Charlie Hills. Proper jock.

John Ferguson giving up training at the end of the year. A real shame. Most of his are vastly over punted, and I for one, shall miss him for that reason alone!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on December 22, 2015, 01:18:28 PM
Interesting couple of stories emerged in last 24, to me at least.

Very pleased to see Dazzler Holland coming back to ride for Charlie Hills. Proper jock.

John Ferguson giving up training at the end of the year. A real shame. Most of his are vastly over punted, and I for one, shall miss him for that reason alone!

Plenty of short priced ones that become even shorter bridle horses in running :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2015, 12:50:17 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing Rashaan again tomorrow at Leopardstown.

Impressed me hugely lto and reminded me so much of Katchit the way it attacks the hurdles. I fancy it to defy the penalty and go clear jolly for the Triumph.

Think it's a decent bet @ 5/2 tomorrow but reluctant to go in ante-post @ 16/1 as that race is such a minefield this far away.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2015, 10:39:35 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing Rashaan again tomorrow at Leopardstown.

Impressed me hugely lto and reminded me so much of Katchit the way it attacks the hurdles. I fancy it to defy the penalty and go clear jolly for the Triumph.

Think it's a decent bet @ 5/2 tomorrow but reluctant to go in ante-post @ 16/1 as that race is such a minefield this far away.

Ice Cream here chucked a £20 freebet on it a couple weeks back :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2015, 11:16:26 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing Rashaan again tomorrow at Leopardstown.

Impressed me hugely lto and reminded me so much of Katchit the way it attacks the hurdles. I fancy it to defy the penalty and go clear jolly for the Triumph.

Think it's a decent bet @ 5/2 tomorrow but reluctant to go in ante-post @ 16/1 as that race is such a minefield this far away.

Ice Cream here chucked a £20 freebet on it a couple weeks back :D

I just missed getting some 33/1 directly after it won last time and couldn't bring myself to take 16/1 although that could look massive by 2pm today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on December 26, 2015, 11:42:53 AM
this morning the morning line had 3 jockeys on its sofa

ATR 2 jockeys in its studio

all 5 are non-bettors, under the regulations, while active and therefore inexperienced on betting issues when they retire

do you think this is what the viewing audience for these programmes want?

would you rather have form experts, betting experts etc?





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2015, 11:55:58 AM
this morning the morning line had 3 jockeys on its sofa

ATR 2 jockeys in its studio

all 5 are non-bettors, under the regulations, while active and therefore inexperienced on betting issues when they retire

do you think this is what the viewing audience for these programmes want?

would you rather have form experts, betting experts etc?


Think the general C4 audience are coffee & toast wielding monkeys like myself, so it wouldn't matter too much.

They did have Tom Segal in the studio, who is god to those that just punt tips, and occasionally have Kealy, too.

I think the best journo they have on is Rob Wright, but unfortunately he hasn't been sighted for a good while.

I think McCoy is actually going to be alright in time, but would like to swap Fitz for Mellish.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2015, 11:57:53 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing Rashaan again tomorrow at Leopardstown.

Impressed me hugely lto and reminded me so much of Katchit the way it attacks the hurdles. I fancy it to defy the penalty and go clear jolly for the Triumph.

Think it's a decent bet @ 5/2 tomorrow but reluctant to go in ante-post @ 16/1 as that race is such a minefield this far away.

Ice Cream here chucked a £20 freebet on it a couple weeks back :D

I just missed getting some 33/1 directly after it won last time and couldn't bring myself to take 16/1 although that could look massive by 2pm today.

Hopefully so, but generally it's never a good idea to be betting on the Triumph this side of the new year, and you'll probably have saved money come March.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: treefella on December 26, 2015, 12:11:06 PM
Hey everyone happy christmas !

Scoop 6 today a must bet ! Its only five legs as Wetherby abandoned.
The pool has reached well over a million. It will be won today for sure and looking at the legs on offer its probably the easiest scoop 6 for a very long time .

Gl !


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on December 26, 2015, 12:26:06 PM
Had a word for Gunner Fifteen in the last at Kempton, currently 5/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2015, 12:51:45 PM
Cheers treefella, had a go myself

13:25 - Antony
13:40 - Alcala
15:10 - Don Cossack/Cue Card
15:25 - Quite By Chance
15:45 - Gunner Fifteen


Had a word for Gunner Fifteen in the last at Kempton, currently 5/1

Good luck Brent, chucked in the last leg of my scoop6 ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2015, 02:16:00 PM
Rashaan ran a stinker surely not quite right.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2015, 02:28:18 PM
Rashaan ran a stinker surely not quite right.

Hopefully that's the case.

On the upside, you'll probably be able to get 33/1 again now :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: rfgqqabc on December 26, 2015, 06:01:51 PM
4 from 5 in the scoop 6. Last got to me. Maybe should have continued the dart method. Not really sure how much of a bad beat it is. Placepot paid for the spin anyway


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 27, 2015, 01:03:35 AM
A couple of small interests tomorrow at Kempton I shall be having, that I thought Mr Nirvana may be interested in if he gets desperate tomorrow!

Sensibly I should go for Ned Stark and Two Taffs in the races I'm looking at but in my quest for some trimmings, there are a couple I fancy could outrun their odds.

In the 2.35, I have felt that No Buts had a decent 3m chase in him this year. He won a nice race at Newbury handsomely last year, but never really built on it, but still ran ok.

The key to him seems to be Tom Scu, who is back on board after a poor seasonal intro. That said, some of his best races have come in the race after his comeback runs after a break( if that makes sense?!). At 7 turning 8, he should be just about be in his prime, and at 25s, i would be sick if I missed this years wedding.

The other I wanted to follow in the last race is Ryeollian. This ran a real improved race over at Wincanton last time out and looks to be on the improve. Gary Moore loves to have winners at the local tracks, and as a 4/5 year old he could still be on the upgrade. I gather he works very well at home and its taken a while to get the horse to do the same on the track. At 14s, I shall have a small dabble. GL!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on December 27, 2015, 09:52:19 AM
A couple of small interests tomorrow at Kempton I shall be having, that I thought Mr Nirvana may be interested in if he gets desperate tomorrow!

Sensibly I should go for Ned Stark and Two Taffs in the races I'm looking at but in my quest for some trimmings, there are a couple I fancy could outrun their odds.

In the 2.35, I have felt that No Buts had a decent 3m chase in him this year. He won a nice race at Newbury handsomely last year, but never really built on it, but still ran ok.

The key to him seems to be Tom Scu, who is back on board after a poor seasonal intro. That said, some of his best races have come in the race after his comeback runs after a break( if that makes sense?!). At 7 turning 8, he should be just about be in his prime, and at 25s, i would be sick if I missed this years wedding.

The other I wanted to follow in the last race is Ryeollian. This ran a real improved race over at Wincanton last time out and looks to be on the improve. Gary Moore loves to have winners at the local tracks, and as a 4/5 year old he could still be on the upgrade. I gather he works very well at home and its taken a while to get the horse to do the same on the track. At 14s, I shall have a small dabble. GL!!

Cheers adz. Prices on the rail will probably crash when I get stuck in

Looking forward to seeing sprinter sacre in the flesh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 27, 2015, 09:54:48 AM
Haha. No doubt sir.

Have fun and be gentle later if they both get pulled up!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on December 27, 2015, 11:23:38 AM
Morning Bigadz.   Its a shame the 2.35 is 15 runners for betting. No Buts is available at 28/1 with few firms.
The one i was interested in in same race was Harrys Farewell. Lightly raced and has ran some very sound races (early in career real decent grade in hurdle races) would prob need to improve again a little bit from last win but that looks possible. Good luck .


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 27, 2015, 12:32:33 PM
Morning Bigadz.   Its a shame the 2.35 is 15 runners for betting. No Buts is available at 28/1 with few firms.
The one i was interested in in same race was Harrys Farewell. Lightly raced and has ran some very sound races (early in career real decent grade in hurdle races) would prob need to improve again a little bit from last win but that looks possible. Good luck .


Yes he won well last time. I seem to recall his tail went round a few times on the run in when he got hit and seemed to resent it. I suspect this will be a tougher task, and will be interesting to see if his temperament holds up if he gets into this. GL.


Over to Ireland for another dart.

So far this year I have had 3/4 WOW moments, where horses surprise me with performances.

Clan des Obaux in a juvvy race at Newbs
Tea for Two on chase debut at Exeter
Buvoir D'ail at Newbs and
Rossvoss in a handicap hurdle at Punchestown.

Rossvoss is in the big league today in the Paddy Power Chase at Leo. The way he stayed on last time I have to have an interest, despite the massive leap in grade and it being a different everything!!
You have to follow your WOW horses!!

GL today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on December 27, 2015, 02:17:13 PM
un de sceaux falls in ireland, may see an overreaction is SS is impressive later and get some value (if hes ok).

Incred race at kempton ar mad is an incredible watch


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 27, 2015, 03:33:32 PM
Morning Bigadz.   Its a shame the 2.35 is 15 runners for betting. No Buts is available at 28/1 with few firms.
The one i was interested in in same race was Harrys Farewell. Lightly raced and has ran some very sound races (early in career real decent grade in hurdle races) would prob need to improve again a little bit from last win but that looks possible. Good luck .


Shame yours decided to try and kill both our chances at the first, but despite this and a mega mistake about 5 out the way No Butts ran on at the end, I'm sure we can recoup at some point in the near future. Ho hum.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on December 27, 2015, 10:36:31 PM
A good days racing - good picks I think Adz - get em next time.

Cannon Fodder at 8s and a jolly from Leapordstown got me out for the day, certainly a few beers and a curry's worth anyway which is all I ever want :-)

Thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 27, 2015, 10:45:45 PM
A good days racing - good picks I think Adz - get em next time.

Cannon Fodder at 8s and a jolly from Leapordstown got me out for the day, certainly a few beers and a curry's worth anyway which is all I ever want :-)

Thanks


Good man. Hopefully get it back on both soon.


Bet the atmosphere was cracking during the Sacre/SDG.

Couldn't work out who to root for down the stretch, just wanted that sort of finish.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on December 28, 2015, 12:51:15 AM
A good days racing - good picks I think Adz - get em next time.

Cannon Fodder at 8s and a jolly from Leapordstown got me out for the day, certainly a few beers and a curry's worth anyway which is all I ever want :-)

Thanks


Good man. Hopefully get it back on both soon.


Bet the atmosphere was cracking during the Sacre/SDG.

Couldn't work out who to root for down the stretch, just wanted that sort of finish.

You're right, I don't know much about racing (understatement) but 3 big names I recognised in that race and definitely good to watch


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on December 29, 2015, 11:17:09 AM
BIGADZ,
           Hi i see you tipped Wild Bill on Tikays thread, i liked the look of it also, the money for Ziga Boy is a concern, well handicapped on best form, and jockey 3lb claim.






Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 30, 2015, 02:22:13 PM
Ziga been threatening to do that for a while.

In fact I had backed him last few times and gave up this time, as he had looked dodgy. It looks like Bellamy has the key to him as he has won twice on him now. Is the mighty Wayneo losing his touch??!! :D

Whilst we got the price on Wild Bill, it pays for f all, but shows we are looking in the right places as he ran an ok third.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on December 30, 2015, 04:23:12 PM
I had a little r/fc the two, didnt think he gave wild bill a very good ride , but desperate ground can make it look worse, he never put it in the race tho basically.
Talking of rides, if you can watch the doncaster 2.20 and the ride James Reveley gave run ructions run, sat moitionless and horse appeared to finish full of running, seems amazing to not try in a 17k race with only 6 runners.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 01, 2016, 01:04:44 PM
Hi adz fancy anything today. i liked top gamble in the chelt 1.55 @10/1, race will obv revolve around village vic who has gone shooting up handicap by winning races so easily.
Top gamble will love the conditions and after pulling up on comeback run ran well last time.
With afew of em being out of form, and couple not too well handicapped will take a e/w chance , good luck.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 02, 2016, 01:45:57 PM
Well Village Vic certainly improved again, Top Gamble ran a decent race tho.
Hoping Arthurs Oak can improve again like the Vic did in the sandown 1.50.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 19, 2016, 12:31:18 AM
Ayr 12.55 Cinder Rua getting 7lb from the others with jockey claim @ 7/2 looks very interesting.
She hasnt won after a lot of runs but they have mostly been decent races compared to this .
price is obvs been held up with the potential of the fav.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on January 19, 2016, 01:53:47 PM
Ayr 12.55 Cinder Rua getting 7lb from the others with jockey claim @ 7/2 looks very interesting.
She hasnt won after a lot of runs but they have mostly been decent races compared to this .
price is obvs been held up with the potential of the fav.

Thanks for that one!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on January 19, 2016, 02:26:52 PM
Ayr 12.55 Cinder Rua getting 7lb from the others with jockey claim @ 7/2 looks very interesting.
She hasnt won after a lot of runs but they have mostly been decent races compared to this .
price is obvs been held up with the potential of the fav.

Thanks for that one!!

Cheers for this! Covered the fav losing for me!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 19, 2016, 08:14:21 PM
Good shout, atdc.

I need to remember to check blonde before I get working :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 19, 2016, 11:28:04 PM
At Newbury tomorrow the bumper looks like it could have some potential good horses in it.
There are some nice looking ex-Irish horses in the race.
Im gonna take a chance that a couple wont be having too hard a race.
Stowaway Majic was bought for £100K so obvs think alot of it, won a 4 runner race when Neumond joined it and fell. (now also with Henderson)
Ballycash will prob be also good in time but already looks like it wants 3m+
Reilys Minor prob would of won his point but fell at last, horse that did win 3rd at muss since.Greatrex does have a few bumper winners tho.
Shrewd tactics won a point but fav had fallen at 2nd, form of others not worked out that well.
Druids lodge has only ran on goodish ground, up there and faded.
Red Infantry and mixelle days both 100/1 on single runs.
MR FENTON has had one run at chepstow, out the back and ran on at end, wasnt a big price and they must be hopeful for it to come on for that run, trainer does have good few bumper winners and got D.Jacob riding for her.
At 10/1 im going to risk that MR FENTON will be doing his best, and can hopefully give the imports a good race of it  :)




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 20, 2016, 09:30:45 AM
Nice work yesterday sir. Wp.

After years of having the worst of it in Jan and early Feb I am finally keeping to my no betting policy. Not quite true, but since start of year only bet 12% of last year volume for the same period, and half of that is ante post.

I shall have a dabble on today's advice, as I did yesterday, Ty.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on January 20, 2016, 09:33:33 AM
I cannot Find this race can you give me some direction


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 20, 2016, 09:38:05 AM
Good shout, atdc.

I need to remember to check blonde before I get working :D

You WORK?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on January 20, 2016, 09:39:27 AM
I cannot Find this race can you give me some direction

Called off I think due to a frozen track


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 20, 2016, 09:39:33 AM
I cannot Find this race can you give me some direction

Think it was at Newbury, which has fallen foul to Jack Frost I believe.





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 20, 2016, 10:10:13 AM
I cannot Find this race can you give me some direction

Hi, it was the last race at Newbury ( N.H Flat race) but as been said meeting off due to frost.
Shame had the makings of a very good race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on January 20, 2016, 10:14:54 AM
Frost, wimps.

I am going skiing next week dont see me calling that off because the snow is bad. I hear the beer is still cold.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on January 20, 2016, 11:01:38 AM
I cannot Find this race can you give me some direction

Newbury has been abandoned


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 20, 2016, 12:22:16 PM
Good shout, atdc.

I need to remember to check blonde before I get working :D

You WORK?

Ha!

For minimum wage, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 21, 2016, 01:26:37 PM
Looking at the wincanton 3.55 a Novices handicap chase -gulp. originally thought DAVERON would have good chance E/W at 10/1
Ran good first chase race at chepstow over prob too short a trip, up 4F today.
Also thought 3 of the first 4 in betting had a few question marks,
Merchant of milan won low grade race,
Marden seems to make hard work of it
Sidbury hill p/u and fell, esp as they are half the price of Daveron.
But there appears to be a couple of flys in ointment  .
Netherby has decent form but must of had some problems to of had so few races in such a long time, but did have some very decent form.
Too scoops sems to have attracted some support, certainly not on the recent form tho,
And lewisis last run apparently not as bad as it seems.
think will have a small ew bet for bit of interest, good luck.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on January 21, 2016, 02:51:18 PM
So, are you sticking with DAVERON, or have your subsequent second thoughts led you to back an alternative EW? Looks like a trappy race to me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Weetabix on January 21, 2016, 03:35:59 PM
You are a brave man tacking this race.  Novice chase handicap in heavy ground is as tough as you get.  The one that jumps off the page is Netheby if the market speaks close to the off, Gary moore is a crafty sod.

The 2.20 winner was nibbled at late on, returned 66/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 21, 2016, 04:11:42 PM
So, are you sticking with DAVERON, or have your subsequent second thoughts led you to back an alternative EW? Looks like a trappy race to me.

Yes had small e/w Daveron.
Hi weetabix yes nov handicap chases are not normally the best betting contests, hence the - gulp  :)

I wouldnt be surprised at any outcome but imo Daveron has as much chance as the 4 shorter than him in the betting.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on January 21, 2016, 04:51:52 PM
hero

atdc knew


one to watch aswell as his jumping was very poor until the last few, lost a fair bit of ground, if he jumps better hes more than value for a bit more,


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Dewi_cool on January 21, 2016, 04:52:09 PM
 :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on January 21, 2016, 04:52:20 PM
Thanks for tip


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Weetabix on January 21, 2016, 04:53:33 PM
Nice work, I thought your horse had blown it late on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on January 21, 2016, 04:54:26 PM
So, are you sticking with DAVERON, or have your subsequent second thoughts led you to back an alternative EW? Looks like a trappy race to me.

Yes had small e/w Daveron.
Hi weetabix yes nov handicap chases are not normally the best betting contests, hence the - gulp  :)

I wouldnt be surprised at any outcome but imo Daveron has as much chance as the 4 shorter than him in the betting.

Very nice spot sir. Tnx for the tip!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 21, 2016, 04:58:59 PM
Ha cheers all.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 21, 2016, 09:55:27 PM
Nice work atd.

Totally missed, as I was travelling but top work.WP.


a snippet for those who have been waiting for Moon Racer, the Champion Bumper winner, to resurface. Apparently the "slight setback" Pipe mentioned in November was actually a broken pelvis!

Probably not going to be seen this season, if again at all.

Not all well at the Pipes, I gather!! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 21, 2016, 10:25:55 PM
Nice one, again, atdc!


Nice work atd.

Totally missed, as I was travelling but top work.WP.


a snippet for those who have been waiting for Moon Racer, the Champion Bumper winner, to resurface. Apparently the "slight setback" Pipe mentioned in November was actually a broken pelvis!

Probably not going to be seen this season, if again at all.

Not all well at the Pipes, I gather!! ;)

What was it Blakey says 'Couldn't lie straight in bed', lol.

Shame to hear that, looked to have huge potential.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2016, 10:42:31 AM
Great to see Hereford is reopening.

Scene of my first ever bet of £500 many moons ago watching a horse called Rowlandsons Jewels clip almost every fence and then have to be driven out to win a small field race at Evens.

A horrible seven or so minutes at the time, but the place retains a fondness for me as a result.

Nice to see some good news for a change.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 23, 2016, 01:35:43 AM
At first glance the Taunton 2.45 would look like a race to avoid, but i dont think all is as is seems.
the fav Johns Luck was 2nd last time but only 4 finished and trainer not in best of form.
Whats Lark also finished 2nd but was 66/1 and the 2 joint favs didnt finish and looked a flukey result.
Eaton rock 'won' a 4 runner race as the winner was disq then ran tame race after.
Rebel benifit won couple small Irish points but not shown much here.
Brendon hill lad won a few low grade hurdle races and a chase off 95 but wasnt much of race and well beat since.
Mount prospex hadnt shown anything until last run , which wasnt too bad, hurdle race tho. p/u only chase start.
Garde Fou bolted up in first hurdle win, but went up in weights and down in finishing, first chase and got 11-12.
Badger wood is interesting , and had 2 decent hurdle runs at track.not sure about the distance for him tho.
tikkapack,some finish ,trehan cross and residence and spa i just couldnt have.
This leaves us SOMERSET LIAS, local trainer , not many horses but they have been running ok.
ran in some ok hurdle races without winning, seems to be a better chaser and had a couple of decent runs.
will deff like the trip, and has first time cheekpieces.
Off of this mark in this race which isnt that strong looks worth a little go at 13/2
I have done it E/W , but its prob not a great e/w value race.would be disapointed if its not in the farme, good luck.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Weetabix on January 23, 2016, 02:40:33 AM
Best of luck with this one, I will follow you in, e/w double with spellmaker(last race lingfield) and a couple of singles. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TommyPlus on January 23, 2016, 10:35:42 AM
At first glance the Taunton 2.45 would look like a race to avoid, but i dont think all is as is seems.
the fav Johns Luck was 2nd last time but only 4 finished and trainer not in best of form.
Whats Lark also finished 2nd but was 66/1 and the 2 joint favs didnt finish and looked a flukey result.
Eaton rock 'won' a 4 runner race as the winner was disq then ran tame race after.
Rebel benifit won couple small Irish points but not shown much here.
Brendon hill lad won a few low grade hurdle races and a chase off 95 but wasnt much of race and well beat since.
Mount prospex hadnt shown anything until last run , which wasnt too bad, hurdle race tho. p/u only chase start.
Garde Fou bolted up in first hurdle win, but went up in weights and down in finishing, first chase and got 11-12.
Badger wood is interesting , and had 2 decent hurdle runs at track.not sure about the distance for him tho.
tikkapack,some finish ,trehan cross and residence and spa i just couldnt have.
This leaves us SOMERSET LIAS, local trainer , not many horses but they have been running ok.
ran in some ok hurdle races without winning, seems to be a better chaser and had a couple of decent runs.
will deff like the trip, and has first time cheekpieces.
Off of this mark in this race which isnt that strong looks worth a little go at 13/2
I have done it E/W , but its prob not a great e/w value race.would be disapointed if its not in the farme, good luck.

Had a go at this on your recommendation. Shortening already is a good sign. Good luck pal.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 23, 2016, 05:35:18 PM
Badger Wood showed his liking again for taunton.
Ours had every chance turning in but didnt have any gears, won a bit for the place tho, on we go. :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on January 24, 2016, 01:31:24 PM
Coral already looking at £2m pay-out on opening-day Mullins four-fold, according to rep on ATR

seems high for this stage, even allowing for PR spin, doesnt it?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 24, 2016, 02:08:35 PM
Coral already looking at £2m pay-out on opening-day Mullins four-fold, according to rep on ATR

seems high for this stage, even allowing for PR spin, doesnt it?

Probably a few on at much bigger prices than they are now, but they love to lay it on thick, so I'd say you're most likely right.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 24, 2016, 03:05:07 PM
I know he didn't beat much but what a spectacular round of jumping from Douvan.

As good as I can remember from a novice 'chaser.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 24, 2016, 03:11:58 PM
I know he didn't beat much but what a spectacular round of jumping from Douvan.

As good as I can remember from a novice 'chaser.

Think Ricci Rich said yesterday that Douvan is the best horse he has ever owned.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 24, 2016, 03:51:28 PM
Be happy to topup on Nichols yet again if beat here

Especially if Faugheen gets it easy infront

Come on the Canyon


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 24, 2016, 04:02:50 PM
that went well..

Career best from Faugheen bar the demolition job of the last

Not giving up on Nichols yet hopefully some silly prices about tonight


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 24, 2016, 04:33:14 PM
14/1 with Spoyles, straight after the race.

Scary thing is, he's likely to improve for the run, too.

That day 1 acca is now best priced 10/1!

Hope I'm not feeling as sick as I did last year :/



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on January 24, 2016, 04:52:16 PM
14/1 with Spoyles, straight after the race.

Scary thing is, he's likely to improve for the run, too.

That day 1 acca is now best priced 10/1!

Hope I'm not feeling as sick as I did last year :/



Fred were 8/1 last night that Mullins wins surpreme, arkle, ch and mares, get added insurance of 2nd string on your side


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 24, 2016, 05:01:19 PM
14/1 with Spoyles, straight after the race.

Scary thing is, he's likely to improve for the run, too.

That day 1 acca is now best priced 10/1!

Hope I'm not feeling as sick as I did last year :/



Fred were 8/1 last night that Mullins wins surpreme, arkle, ch and mares, get added insurance of 2nd string on your side

I've only got a tenner on it from way back, but my mate has a ton on, so will probably want to hedge some ;D

Cheers for the heads up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 24, 2016, 05:05:06 PM
worried how quickly nichols went out not like him at all after travelling well into smashing the second out

Saying that Paul was nice on him after that 14s nrnb would be fine


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 24, 2016, 05:14:04 PM
Machine awesome. As per.

Can only see Arctic as the only danger on better ground.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on January 24, 2016, 05:27:37 PM
14/1 with Spoyles, straight after the race.

Scary thing is, he's likely to improve for the run, too.

That day 1 acca is now best priced 10/1!

Hope I'm not feeling as sick as I did last year :/



Fred were 8/1 last night that Mullins wins surpreme, arkle, ch and mares, get added insurance of 2nd string on your side

I've only got a tenner on it from way back, but my mate has a ton on, so will probably want to hedge some ;D

Cheers for the heads up.

Stuck 20 on last night in the hope douvan and faughy were untouchable today. Like the idea of having the 2nd string on side once I realised it would have copped last year with glens melody haha. Was only 5's with sky, not sure if today's result have changed anything dramatically odds wise. Saw it as a cheap way to get through day 1 without trying to oppose to hot shots and do me money on ew picks that come nowhere.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 24, 2016, 05:29:12 PM
His most impressive performance yet, imo.

Think Arctic Fire will want more than better ground to get close this time around.

That looked to be a quicker pace than they went in the CH last year, which was supposed to be how they'd get him beat :D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 24, 2016, 05:31:17 PM
Stuck 20 on last night in the hope douvan and faughy were untouchable today. Like the idea of having the 2nd string on side once I realised it would have copped last year with glens melody haha. Was only 5's with sky, not sure if today's result have changed anything dramatically odds wise. Saw it as a cheap way to get through day 1 without trying to oppose to hot shots and do me money on ew picks that come nowhere.

I was on the horse that got chinned, which made it double sour!

I wanted AP for a couple grand, and PP for about £500, which would have softened the blow.

Can't see them anywhere now, so will just have to hope the 4 penalty kicks all get there, and win!

I'll be very sickened if AP turns up in the World Hurdle, given she's not been out yet this season.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 24, 2016, 07:56:48 PM
His most impressive performance yet, imo.

Think Arctic Fire will want more than better ground to get close this time around.

That looked to be a quicker pace than they went in the CH last year, which was supposed to be how they'd get him beat :D




I expect nothing other than the Machine winning, bar several hurdles hit, a fall, or me being drafted in as replacement jock.

Think the bet on day one is the 5-1 you may get on the SF.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 24, 2016, 08:05:27 PM
His most impressive performance yet, imo.

Think Arctic Fire will want more than better ground to get close this time around.

That looked to be a quicker pace than they went in the CH last year, which was supposed to be how they'd get him beat :D



I expect nothing other than the Machine winning, bar several hurdles hit, a fall, or me being drafted in as replacement jock.

Think the bet on day one is the 5-1 you may get on the SF.


Sounds like a plan.

Roll on March!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: youthnkzR on January 29, 2016, 03:44:17 PM
Afternoon guys. Im off to Doncaster Races tomorrow (Sat 30th), does anybody have any tips / fancies for this which you'd mind sharing?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on January 29, 2016, 05:50:12 PM
Afternoon guys. Im off to Doncaster Races tomorrow (Sat 30th), does anybody have any tips / fancies for this which you'd mind sharing?

Just Cameron runs in the 1-30. Was all guts last season and ended the season getting to within 3 lengths of un de sceaux, the only time ive seen UDS off the bridal other than last week (apart from running round without his jockey). He was meant to campaign in 2m G1s this season but must have had a few set backs. His return earlier this month was uninspiring but it was terrible ground to reappear in. Hes giving alot of weight to a few that might be well in but if he comes good again he could carry most of these. Only two were priced up when I checked, 9/1. Taking a chance that hes the same horse/doesnt need another run. Still think hes a decent ew bet for the champion chase.

Seem really nice horses there tomorrow, more for chelts info than anything else


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: youthnkzR on January 29, 2016, 11:01:04 PM
Afternoon guys. Im off to Doncaster Races tomorrow (Sat 30th), does anybody have any tips / fancies for this which you'd mind sharing?

Just Cameron runs in the 1-30. Was all guts last season and ended the season getting to within 3 lengths of un de sceaux, the only time ive seen UDS off the bridal other than last week (apart from running round without his jockey). He was meant to campaign in 2m G1s this season but must have had a few set backs. His return earlier this month was uninspiring but it was terrible ground to reappear in. Hes giving alot of weight to a few that might be well in but if he comes good again he could carry most of these. Only two were priced up when I checked, 9/1. Taking a chance that hes the same horse/doesnt need another run. Still think hes a decent ew bet for the champion chase.

Seem really nice horses there tomorrow, more for chelts info than anything else

Thanks very much mate, Im sure it'll be much better than the rest of the darts I throw, regardless if it rediscovers its best form or not.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on January 29, 2016, 11:08:07 PM
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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on January 29, 2016, 11:40:45 PM
Afternoon guys. Im off to Doncaster Races tomorrow (Sat 30th), does anybody have any tips / fancies for this which you'd mind sharing?

Just Cameron runs in the 1-30. Was all guts last season and ended the season getting to within 3 lengths of un de sceaux, the only time ive seen UDS off the bridal other than last week (apart from running round without his jockey). He was meant to campaign in 2m G1s this season but must have had a few set backs. His return earlier this month was uninspiring but it was terrible ground to reappear in. Hes giving alot of weight to a few that might be well in but if he comes good again he could carry most of these. Only two were priced up when I checked, 9/1. Taking a chance that hes the same horse/doesnt need another run. Still think hes a decent ew bet for the champion chase.

Seem really nice horses there tomorrow, more for chelts info than anything else

I'm heading down for Donny races also so will have a little go on this. Any more tips will be gratefully received


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TommyPlus on January 30, 2016, 06:02:46 AM
Quick heads up!
Hills 3/1 for Djakadam and Thistlecrack for a tenner at 8:30am.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 30, 2016, 11:42:54 AM
Amazing how far Thistlecrack has come on, camping ground beat him last year giving him over a stone .


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 30, 2016, 11:48:57 AM
chelt 2.55 Champagne West has shown liking for cheltenham and can prob improve again here, 5/2 looks fair enough.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 30, 2016, 12:21:03 PM
chelt 2.55 Champagne West has shown liking for cheltenham and can prob improve again here, 5/2 looks fair enough.

Must admit I quite fancy Irish Cavalier. Drifting all morning, mind!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on January 30, 2016, 01:07:13 PM
Amazing how far Thistlecrack has come on, camping ground beat him last year giving him over a stone .

In fairness that was over 2m, he stepped up a mile and only stop-and-go has beat it since. (and that race reads like a whos who this season)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: jakally on January 30, 2016, 01:17:30 PM
chelt 2.55 Champagne West has shown liking for cheltenham and can prob improve again here, 5/2 looks fair enough.

Must admit I quite fancy Irish Cavalier. Drifting all morning, mind!

Think Salubrious is ok each way in that one.
Also like No Planning each way in the 3.15 Doncaster with 4 places.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 30, 2016, 02:14:18 PM
another filthy ride from Tom Scu on Un Temp por Tout. No bet so not even talking through pocket.

Won the French stayers in a bog from the front. Spent half his time in this waving his arms when should have bounced out vs this lot.

Keep him in mind for Chelts wherever he turns up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on January 30, 2016, 02:27:03 PM
Cant ask for more from just cameron, just giving that one lumps. Didnt seem to travel, but so game.                       


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 30, 2016, 02:49:53 PM
Grrrr.

100-1 on Smad for Ryanair up in smoke.


Makes you wonder what Alan King sees in the morning to think he was not a Gold Cup horse?! Most trainers think their geese are swans, cant recall a trainer being so under estimative(?) of his own star.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on January 30, 2016, 03:18:22 PM
Grrrr.

100-1 on Smad for Ryanair up in smoke.


Makes you wonder what Alan King sees in the morning to think he was not a Gold Cup horse?! Most trainers think their geese are swans, cant recall a trainer being so under estimative(?) of his own star.

Seen the morning line and realised theres a chance vautour doesnt take the dropkick option?

Cant see why he ran that race if he doesnt think hes a GC horse. Problem may be smad is the MC of last season, and he didnt do so well in the GC.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 30, 2016, 03:24:03 PM
Johnson didnt put that horse into any fence with a chance, see why he never won a title whilst Mccoy was riding.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 30, 2016, 04:18:52 PM
Johnson didnt put that horse into any fence with a chance, see why he never won a title whilst Mccoy was riding.


If u r on about CW, he came back and said to the Brookies it was all his fault. He said he was going so well he couldn't not go for the gap and fxxxed up the stride pattern.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on January 30, 2016, 04:34:03 PM
yanworth and thistlecrack the real deal


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 30, 2016, 04:35:12 PM
Fantastic run from Thistlecrack, fair play to tizzard, he has had this horse in top form all season in top grade races, takes some doing, hope he keeps him sound for another couple months.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 30, 2016, 05:12:28 PM
yanworth and thistlecrack the real deal

That was unreal from Yanworth, and they think he'll be better on spring ground.

My Wylie antepost bets not looking quite as good after today :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on February 02, 2016, 12:14:13 PM

2.45 Taunton looks like the filthiest each way race in history.   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on February 02, 2016, 01:38:13 PM

2.45 Taunton looks like the filthiest each way race in history.   

Best way to attack this?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on February 02, 2016, 02:49:45 PM

2.45 Taunton looks like the filthiest each way race in history.   

Best way to attack this?

A lot of husbands.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on February 02, 2016, 03:10:19 PM
Trouble with 2.45 a lot of them will prob be just getting runs for handicap marks.
Present times at 33/1 looks like it could improve again from last run, of course neither of the front to are bound to win....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 02, 2016, 10:48:27 PM
Quite like a couple of chase debutants tomorrow.

Carningli was a decent bumper, even ran in the Champ event. He is a big old unit and has been biding his time hurdling, but makes chase debut tomorrow. Hopefully he is fit enough to pop in off a nice initial mark. 9s available. 2.45

Gunner Fifteen moved to Harry Fry and went off 13/8 fav in his first race this year in a race won by Rock the Kasbah. He also makes his chase debut again a Hendo hotpot, but again looks a nice initial mark, and with the stable doing better the 8-1 is worth a small flutter.

Whatever either do tomorrow, I suspect they are worth following over the bigger stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 03, 2016, 03:59:46 PM
Somewhat frustrating

Carningli, backed into 6-1. Jumped ok and was still in touch when completed fxcked up the 4th last and came to an almost standstill. Jockey understandably gave up and then ran on strongly at the end from nowhere. One to follow.

Gunner 15 was backed into 3-1, and for 3/4 of the race didn't touch a twig. Seemed to empty very quickly and then ditched his jockey at the next fence. Jury is out on this one.

So, as horsey would say, loads of value pie, but again it don't fill the belly.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 03, 2016, 04:21:29 PM
Marky's and my old friend Rashaan is reappearing in the Spring Juvenile Hurdle at Leopardstown on Saturday where it opposes amongst others the firm favourite for The Triumph, Ivanovitch Gorbatov.

The going is set to be much better than last time(currently soft) as opposed to the bottomless bog it failed to act on LTO and I'm prepared to ignore that run and give him another chance @20/1 EW.

Good money after bad? A fool and his money?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on February 05, 2016, 12:42:10 PM
It's been far too long since I've spent a day at the races, so it's off to Sandown I go tomorrow with Mrs Suited.

Looks like a really good card, with the smaller fields making win bet selections the general order of the day, I reckon.

I'm inclined to give Bristol de Mai the nod in the 2:25 Grade 1 - only beaten once in its last four outings, and that was by Ar Mad at this track in December.

I'd be very interested in the views/suggestions from any or all of the shrewdies on here for this or any other race on the card.

Cheers & good luck with your money!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 05, 2016, 02:39:38 PM
Somewhat frustrating

Carningli, backed into 6-1. Jumped ok and was still in touch when completed fxcked up the 4th last and came to an almost standstill. Jockey understandably gave up and then ran on strongly at the end from nowhere. One to follow.

Gunner 15 was backed into 3-1, and for 3/4 of the race didn't touch a twig. Seemed to empty very quickly and then ditched his jockey at the next fence. Jury is out on this one.

So, as horsey would say, loads of value pie, but again it don't fill the belly.

I backed them both, but was so snowed under I forgot to watch.

Unlucky, and Carningli is trackered up ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 05, 2016, 02:40:43 PM
Marky's and my old friend Rashaan is reappearing in the Spring Juvenile Hurdle at Leopardstown on Saturday where it opposes amongst others the firm favourite for The Triumph, Ivanovitch Gorbatov.

The going is set to be much better than last time(currently soft) as opposed to the bottomless bog it failed to act on LTO and I'm prepared to ignore that run and give him another chance @20/1 EW.

Good money after bad? A fool and his money?

I was happy to take a watching brief, but you might have tempted me in for 50p e/w :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 05, 2016, 02:43:39 PM
It's been far too long since I've spent a day at the races, so it's off to Sandown I go tomorrow with Mrs Suited.

Looks like a really good card, with the smaller fields making win bet selections the general order of the day, I reckon.

I'm inclined to give Bristol de Mai the nod in the 2:25 Grade 1 - only beaten once in its last four outings, and that was by Ar Mad at this track in December.

I'd be very interested in the views/suggestions from any or all of the shrewdies on here for this or any other race on the card.

Cheers & good luck with your money!

Had a couple quid on that for the RSA at big prices, but not expecting a run.

Lotto punting, in case Hendo goes up with L'Ami Serge :)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 05, 2016, 03:05:47 PM
Marky's and my old friend Rashaan is reappearing in the Spring Juvenile Hurdle at Leopardstown on Saturday where it opposes amongst others the firm favourite for The Triumph, Ivanovitch Gorbatov.

The going is set to be much better than last time(currently soft) as opposed to the bottomless bog it failed to act on LTO and I'm prepared to ignore that run and give him another chance @20/1 EW.

Good money after bad? A fool and his money?

I was happy to take a watching brief, but you might have tempted me in for 50p e/w :D

The trainer says he thinks it's back to something like it's best after a very good piece of work at The Curragh the other day.

I've obviously gone in again @33/1  ;snoopy'sguns;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 05, 2016, 04:30:24 PM
Tombstone v Bellshill at Leopardstown tomorrow. Got excited when I saw the RP tissue, 1-2 Bellshill, 9-2 Tombstone, but it's not going to be anything like that. Maybe 6-4 Bellshill, 7-4 Tombstone.

Bellshill won't want a tactical race over 2m2f, so I'm guessing one of Mullins' other pair will be sacrificed to make it a proper test.

Guess we'll find out if Tombstone is as good as I think he might be.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on February 05, 2016, 06:04:00 PM
Tombstone v Bellshill at Leopardstown tomorrow. Got excited when I saw the RP tissue, 1-2 Bellshill, 9-2 Tombstone, but it's not going to be anything like that. Maybe 6-4 Bellshill, 7-4 Tombstone.

Bellshill won't want a tactical race over 2m2f, so I'm guessing one of Mullins' other pair will be sacrificed to make it a proper test.

Guess we'll find out if Tombstone is as good as I think he might be.

Looks like the 2/1 with Boylesports isn't going to last, not that I can use it.  Victor 15/8 for those that can too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 06, 2016, 01:52:42 PM
Mullins 123 in triumph trial in ireland.

Ivanovich gorbatov didnt pick up. Rashaan isnt up to the grade.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 06, 2016, 02:01:54 PM
Mullins 123 in triumph trial in ireland.

Ivanovich gorbatov didnt pick up. Rashaan isnt up to the grade.

Can't really argue with that although the bad stumble on the far side didn't help.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 06, 2016, 02:19:24 PM
Mullins 123 in triumph trial in ireland.

Ivanovich gorbatov didnt pick up. Rashaan isnt up to the grade.

Can't really argue with that although the bad stumble on the far side didn't help.

Yeah think he was struggling for pace a bit before that then started staying on round the top turn. Should improve for good ground and probably for further but prob not at this grade. I read the race all wrong. Though obrien had put the other one is as a pacemaker. IG made a howler but if he was that much ahead of 4yos he should still win that.

Speaking of ground ffos las off due to ground lol, seen them race in a bog, must be desperate there.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 06, 2016, 02:44:14 PM
Tombstone now 7/2+ on betty


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 06, 2016, 02:51:22 PM
Bubbles bursting all over the place.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 06, 2016, 02:52:23 PM
again the mullins rag wins. Going to be some very different markets for chelts


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 06, 2016, 02:54:41 PM
Incred scenes. Top novice race that one.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 06, 2016, 03:01:07 PM
Incred scenes. Top novice race that one.


Not sure what to make of Tombstone there Chompy. Seemed to come back on bit for a few strides as he went past Bellshill. I suspect the ground found him out in the end.

Elliots had said he thought the step up would suit, I would think the Neptune more his race now?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 06, 2016, 03:13:22 PM
Be a different horse on better ground. Still really like him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 06, 2016, 04:25:21 PM
Be a different horse on better ground. Still really like him.


Defo a good horse, just interested to see which way you think they will and should go?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on February 06, 2016, 04:40:06 PM
How the heck has he won that?!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on February 06, 2016, 04:42:22 PM
How the heck has he won that?!

Came from wayyyyyuu back and won by 10 or more lengths.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 06, 2016, 04:55:35 PM
Ruby

Last Fence Cock Up?

Never seen that before......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 06, 2016, 05:14:00 PM
Ruby

Last Fence Cock Up?

Never seen that before......

Think he gets beat anyway, car lough looked like it had just joined in after the last.

Awful day for ruby, dont often say that when mullins dominates.



On the fringe minus nina= 0. Comedy day in ireland




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 06, 2016, 06:51:34 PM
Ruby

Last Fence Cock Up?

Never seen that before......

Think he gets beat anyway, car lough looked like it had just joined in after the last.

Awful day for ruby, dont often say that when mullins dominates.



On the fringe minus nina= 0. Comedy day in ireland





That Hunter chase is normally a joke like that every year. Seem to recall Salisfy running a similar race in it a couple of time, iirc. If people were serious about weeding out non triers it's the perfect place to start.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 07, 2016, 12:12:44 AM
Has to be someting wrong with Bellshill there*

Hopefully On The Fringe shows up at Cheltenham, because that alone will pay for my flight, and I can't even hedge some of my stake now :D

Whatever happens, good shout from Adz, and hopefully we'll get weighed in.

Think JC is right, and our Rashaan vouchers are done, Ralph.

After what O' Leary had said previously, and having watched the race a few times. I can't see Tombstone going anywhere but the Supreme. unfortunately.








*He says with fingers crossed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on February 08, 2016, 06:02:14 PM


More pond life stealing from honest punters while the gambling commission does nothing.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd?event_id=14745024&category=0


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Simon Galloway on February 08, 2016, 06:39:46 PM
I needed the money badly.  Great defence.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 08, 2016, 06:40:35 PM
Another good egg no doubt

Expect him to show up within racing media within the decade


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bookiebasher on February 09, 2016, 11:34:34 AM


More pond life stealing from honest punters while the gambling commission does nothing.

http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd?event_id=14745024&category=0


It's the tip of the iceberg. Only the stupid ones get caught.

How the government and GC allow Joe Public to bet on horses to lose is a joke.

If you want to make money from horse racing it's far easier to lay a horse when you know it's not going to win rather
than trying to prepare a horse for a coup.

All the GC rules and regulations for Licensed bookmakers are ridiculous when essentially anyone laying a horse on Betfair
is doing the same as a bookmaker but without any real checks if you do it clever enough.

Nothing will change , the GC will continue to be a pathetic quango with pen pushers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on February 09, 2016, 02:24:12 PM
Marlet rasen 2.0
I thought Kasakh Noir would be a bit shorter than Wolfcatcher on what they have done and how the races have panned out.
( limited form i know ) do think Noirs second race he ran into a couple of real gooduns.
Maybe its because im not usually keen on those Ferguson/Bloomfield horses, they are often underpriced bridle horses.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on February 09, 2016, 02:50:58 PM
They have made wolfcatcher fav now !!
Doesnt seem right, maybe THEY know


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on February 09, 2016, 02:56:01 PM
did the forecast on what you said
did i win?!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on February 09, 2016, 02:57:21 PM
not even close


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on February 09, 2016, 03:01:01 PM
Yes You got the forecast, nice one.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on February 09, 2016, 03:09:10 PM
Sorry to hark on about this again, but here is the full info on the horse cheating case

http://www.britishhorseracing.com/disciplinary_notices/disciplinary-panel-reasons-regarding-darren-egan-and-philip-langford/

The time span of the alleged conspiracy stretched from 17 June 2013 to 16 July 2013. Prior to that, Mr Langford, a businessman, had been a substantial gambler placing over 50,000 bets through his Betfair account (and a second account in the name of one of his employees) between 2004 and June 2013. Over that lengthy period, his betting showed no concentration upon laying or backing particular horses, jockeys, trainers or owners. But this changed suddenly in mid-June 2013. He began to lay horses ridden by the apprentice Darren Egan, who had held a licence since January 2012. Mr Langford also began to use a Betdaq account for racing bets from 27 June 2013.

6. By 17 July, the top 11 lay liabilities ever risked on his own Betfair account were for Egan rides; 14 of the top 20 lay liabilities on the Betfair account in his employee’s name were for Egan rides; and 14 of the 18 bets placed through Betdaq were for Egan rides. Additionally, two further heavy lay betting risks were taken against Miss Pike’s rides.

7. On 17 July 2013, Betfair suspended Mr Langford’s accounts. By this date, he had risked £838,870 on Egan rides, making an overall profit of £53,560 on the Betfair and Betdaq accounts. Analysis of the Betfair accounts shows that Mr Langford was taking extraordinary percentages of both the win and place markets for the larger Egan liabilities he risked. He took a quarter to a third of the whole market for his win lays, and frequently took 70-80% of the place market.


If any of you were on a jury, would you have any reasonable doubt at all that that these guys "interfered with the process of gambling"?



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bookiebasher on February 09, 2016, 05:42:11 PM
Sorry to hark on about this again, but here is the full info on the horse cheating case

http://www.britishhorseracing.com/disciplinary_notices/disciplinary-panel-reasons-regarding-darren-egan-and-philip-langford/

The time span of the alleged conspiracy stretched from 17 June 2013 to 16 July 2013. Prior to that, Mr Langford, a businessman, had been a substantial gambler placing over 50,000 bets through his Betfair account (and a second account in the name of one of his employees) between 2004 and June 2013. Over that lengthy period, his betting showed no concentration upon laying or backing particular horses, jockeys, trainers or owners. But this changed suddenly in mid-June 2013. He began to lay horses ridden by the apprentice Darren Egan, who had held a licence since January 2012. Mr Langford also began to use a Betdaq account for racing bets from 27 June 2013.

6. By 17 July, the top 11 lay liabilities ever risked on his own Betfair account were for Egan rides; 14 of the top 20 lay liabilities on the Betfair account in his employee’s name were for Egan rides; and 14 of the 18 bets placed through Betdaq were for Egan rides. Additionally, two further heavy lay betting risks were taken against Miss Pike’s rides.

7. On 17 July 2013, Betfair suspended Mr Langford’s accounts. By this date, he had risked £838,870 on Egan rides, making an overall profit of £53,560 on the Betfair and Betdaq accounts. Analysis of the Betfair accounts shows that Mr Langford was taking extraordinary percentages of both the win and place markets for the larger Egan liabilities he risked. He took a quarter to a third of the whole market for his win lays, and frequently took 70-80% of the place market.


If any of you were on a jury, would you have any reasonable doubt at all that that these guys "interfered with the process of gambling"?



Surprised in the Racing Post article no mention of a criminal prosecution. Surely there is a case to be found for fraud.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 10, 2016, 11:13:31 AM
another large gameble on

1790-1 on first shows, now a tenth of the price for the four timer

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca2ICH_W8AA0XSK.png)

seven summits has been off for a year, formely trained by barney curley, ran on the flat off 95 running today off 50

we'll see how they get on!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on February 10, 2016, 01:35:04 PM
shane kelly on all of them- job jockey. some say couldnt lie straight in bed  :o


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on February 10, 2016, 01:41:27 PM
Love these gambling coups, hope they pull it off.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on February 10, 2016, 01:43:04 PM
Dont fancy much with the races we have today, but bit like yesterday the carlisle 4.05 is only 3 runner race thought the fav ( Subtle Grey )should be bit shorter than it is (10/11) to beat these 2 given his form, giving bit of weight away but shoud be ok.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on February 10, 2016, 05:29:29 PM
Again like yesterday it won but made hard work of it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on February 10, 2016, 09:18:12 PM
Donc 1.15 tomorrow.
Like the look of St Johns Point if he will stay the 3m.in the grade in chase
Form of last couple races worked out well and he has 1st time blinkers.
Its napped in Racing Post the 9/2 with Hills has gone but still with 365, could go off shorter .


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 10, 2016, 10:03:43 PM
Killutagh Vic out for the season. L'aime serge is very doubtful to go JLT now though with bristol de mai being under the same ownership and fav.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 10, 2016, 10:53:46 PM
Killutagh Vic out for the season. L'aime serge is very doubtful to go JLT now though with bristol de mai being under the same ownership and fav.

Yeah, shame that.

Just suggested Fred gets on Garde Le Victoire @ 16/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 11, 2016, 11:28:24 AM
Failed coup on Shane Kelly mounts makes layers look again at ‘cash out’

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/feb/10/failed-coup-shane-kelly-cash-out?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Tweet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on February 11, 2016, 12:04:32 PM
Interesting to note that the bookmaker (Bet365 in this interview) was not prepared to admit manipulation of the cashout facility.
Something to do with the fact that lots of punters will have followed the gambles & lost their money (other than the money back on the NR) perhaps? I suspect that this 'gamble' was a nice little earner for Bet365.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on February 11, 2016, 07:14:57 PM
St Johns Point was backed into 5/2  thru the morn. until not long before the off, then drifted out to 5/1 .


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 12, 2016, 06:13:09 PM
Killutagh Vic out for the season. L'aime serge is very doubtful to go JLT now though with bristol de mai being under the same ownership and fav.

Yeah, shame that.

Just suggested Fred gets on Garde Le Victoire @ 16/1.

On board looks decent if we get a run.

Really liked the way josses hill run today, when asked he absolutely pinged the last (hes far to careful when hes allowed to think about them and airs them.) He didnt beat much on the day (obv 2nds a nice animal but blew up they say unfit, id say outstayed as he was right in it if it was 2m race hes used too) but always felt he jumps too slow to be top draw at 2m and would be better when hes stepped up. He probably should have done it after last year (only got beat in race last year airing the last- you cant do that at kempton). For a horse considered a big let down his form at the festival is excellent. Second to vautour over hurdles and third in last years arkle.

Hes never going to be a sure jumper but hes never a 25/1 shot (assuming as everyone is vautour will go GC). Loads ahead of him in the market wont run in the ryanair (henderson says hes basically a deffo if fit) so think hes a decent ew shot.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 12, 2016, 06:21:12 PM
Killutagh Vic out for the season. L'aime serge is very doubtful to go JLT now though with bristol de mai being under the same ownership and fav.

Yeah, shame that.

Just suggested Fred gets on Garde Le Victoire @ 16/1.

On board looks decent if we get a run.

Really liked the way josses hill run today, when asked he absolutely pinged the last (hes far to careful when hes allowed to think about them and airs them.) He didnt beat much on the day (obv 2nds a nice animal but blew up they say unfit, id say outstayed as he was right in it if it was 2m race hes used too) but always felt he jumps too slow to be top draw at 2m and would be better when hes stepped up. He probably should have done it after last year (only got beat in race last year airing the last- you cant do that at kempton). For a horse considered a big let down his form at the festival is excellent. Second to vautour over hurdles and third in last years arkle.

Hes never going to be a sure jumper but hes never a 25/1 shot (assuming as everyone is vautour will go GC). Loads ahead of him in the market wont run in the ryanair (henderson says hes basically a deffo if fit) so think hes a decent ew shot.

They've been looking for an excuse to avoid Douvan all year, and Killultagh Vic pulling out, along with Shaneshill being under par is just the excuse.

They've also beaten BDM giving weight, albeit over 2m, so would be hopeful that he shows up in that race now.

Yeah, jumps very high, which loses ground, but better than ploughing through them :D

Was watching it, and thinking the Ryanair is a much better fit, as it'll give him time that he's never going to get chasing UDS & co around over 2m.

I'm loathe to back e/w antepost, but you've convinced me to chuck some on, and hope to get a trade out for a decent freeroll.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 12, 2016, 07:19:15 PM
Always been a josses fan and was great to see him jump round today and looked very strong at the end.

That 25s alluded me even seconds after the finish and chased around, in the end best I got was 16s.

As you said has a great festival record for an under achiever and in what looks a weak Ryanair looks a solid play.


It will have to take something stellar for me to be backing anything that runs after this weekend. The record of horses running within a month of the festival is dreadful. So beware.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on February 12, 2016, 07:29:31 PM
If anyone fancies anything at Warwick tomorrow, I'd be happy to hear from you.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 12, 2016, 07:35:07 PM
If anyone fancies anything at Warwick tomorrow, I'd be happy to hear from you.



Watching brief for me.

Will probably just have it on in the background, while I do more Avery related mooching online.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: NigDawG on February 13, 2016, 02:53:48 AM
disgraceful field sizes all over the country tomorrow. lots of prize money up for grabs too. simply too many races in the calendar imo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 13, 2016, 03:09:22 AM
disgraceful field sizes all over the country tomorrow. lots of prize money up for grabs too. simply too many races in the calendar imo

Saw an article earlier this week about having to reopen entries, because they had 39 horses entered over a 6 race card.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on February 13, 2016, 10:12:49 AM
disgraceful field sizes all over the country tomorrow. lots of prize money up for grabs too. simply too many races in the calendar imo

Saw an article earlier this week about having to reopen entries, because they had 39 horses entered over a 6 race card.



Probably just a reflection of its proximity to Cheltenham.  Owners want to run at Cheltenham if at all possible.  Glory >> prize money?  Seems stupid to me, as that Newbury meeting, in particular, has a ton of prize money.  Or maybe a lot of this is because Mullins has all the top horses, so there isn't enough top horses in England to fill all these quality races in England?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on February 13, 2016, 10:24:16 AM
disgraceful field sizes all over the country tomorrow. lots of prize money up for grabs too. simply too many races in the calendar imo

Saw an article earlier this week about having to reopen entries, because they had 39 horses entered over a 6 race card.



Probably just a reflection of its proximity to Cheltenham.  Owners want to run at Cheltenham if at all possible.  Glory >> prize money?  Seems stupid to me, as that Newbury meeting, in particular, has a ton of prize money.  Or maybe a lot of this is because Mullins has all the top horses, so there isn't enough top horses in England to fill all these quality races in England?

It's all of the above, isn't it?

Warwick is soft, heavy in places. There was a lot of standing water on Monday. Total runners are:

4
3
6
3
8
7
11

Not much fun for the punters, that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 13, 2016, 11:21:57 AM
Gives us more money to spew next month ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 13, 2016, 03:35:57 PM
Another ante post ticket goes in the bin!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 13, 2016, 03:46:02 PM
Shocking display


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 13, 2016, 03:51:59 PM
Has to be something amiss, as that was surely too bad to be true.

Still, looks to be GG for Cheltenham, lol.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 14, 2016, 04:58:37 PM
Ruby falls AGAIN at the last on Black Hercules in high profile race.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 14, 2016, 05:16:51 PM
Ruby falls AGAIN at the last on Black Hercules in high profile race.



He won one earlier because one fell.

Exeter vets race was comical aswell.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 14, 2016, 05:40:00 PM
What do you think he's doing?

Lapse of concentration, because he knows he has so much horse under him?

Hopefully the horse is ok for Patrick in the 4miler.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 14, 2016, 05:49:35 PM
What do you think he's doing?

Lapse of concentration, because he knows he has so much horse under him?

Hopefully the horse is ok for Patrick in the 4miler.

Hes doing nothing, which may be the problem, may help if he helps them see a stride. Also may not help hes keeping them on a tight rein. Its prob decent lesson for horses as chelts fences take no prisoners the same as irish, you cant just blunder through them. All the falls I remember seem to be when hes tanking and doesnt make a decision. Aniie power fell at chelts where he almost eased her as she was winning so easy. Horses are better off ridden, they are tired even if its not showing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 14, 2016, 05:51:07 PM
What do you think he's doing?

Lapse of concentration, because he knows he has so much horse under him?

Hopefully the horse is ok for Patrick in the 4miler.

 
Not sure mate. I suspect he is trying to get them to just pop the last, and in doing so take them out of the stride pattern that has served them well in the race. Certainly it is happening enough to be worthy of noting if you can put ur 1.01 lay in!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 14, 2016, 05:56:58 PM
Kinda what I guessed, but wasn't sure how to convey it, lol.

Oh Annie, the pain :D

That last few might do him a favour, as well as the horses then.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 15, 2016, 12:43:33 PM
Interesting left-handed dress rehearsal for Ar Mad in the Plumpton 2.30 today.

This almost certainly determines whether or not he goes for The Arkle.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 15, 2016, 08:45:31 PM
Just watching ATR, and Hayley Moore has sent Matt Chapman a text saying that Ar Mad was lame after the race, and waiting to be assessed by a vet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 15, 2016, 08:47:26 PM
Racing Post ‏@RacingPost  1m1 minute ago
Gary Moore reports Ar Mad lame after today's race, adding: "Loads of horses come back lame and are then fine." Further checks in morning.

I may be wrong but think he was lame after a run over hurdles


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 15, 2016, 09:02:40 PM
Even if he is ok, he jumped right enough, even at that pace, to make me think it will be far worse at Championship pace.

If I'm wrong good luck to him, but couldn't be having him on my mind.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 15, 2016, 09:31:20 PM
Elliott said that Clarcam has had a wind op, and goes to Aintree/Punchestown, no Cheltenham.

Diamond King going to Coral Cup.

Cossack might have head gear if it comes up heavy, but that is less likely, the better the ground is.

Tombstone most likely Supreme.

Tycoon Prince wind op, and if ready will go Neptune, but not sure that he will be.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 15, 2016, 11:18:59 PM
min, faugheen, douvan 11/2 with sky, anywhere better?

add AP if you dare lads 10/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 15, 2016, 11:20:38 PM
min, faugheen, douvan 11/2 with sky, anywhere better?

add AP if you dare lads 10/1

I've got a tenner on that fourfold from before chrimbo, and lad I'm going away with for festival has a ton on it.

Suffice to say, he's not too pleased with the market movements over the last few days :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 15, 2016, 11:39:03 PM
Would rather Chuck Limini in with those three.

Almost hope AP doesn't run this week so she sticks too mares.

Not sure if still there but Min was 2-1 today with Sky for small beer. All helps though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 15, 2016, 11:43:31 PM
Would rather Chuck Limini in with those three.

Almost hope AP doesn't run this week so she sticks too mares.

Not sure if still there but Min was 2-1 today with Sky for small beer. All helps though.

I think she'll still go mares, even if she runs.

Had a few on Bellshill @ 40s for the Supreme.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 16, 2016, 12:26:49 PM
Ar Mad is out for the season, trainer Gary Moore has revealed


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 16, 2016, 12:43:34 PM
123 entered

86 in the handicap

only 4 horses from outside the handicap have run in the last decade

weights are

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbVVf83UsAEarSe.jpg)

long distance punts might be?

bit.ly/GNationalodds 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on February 16, 2016, 01:48:30 PM
Will vroum vroum mag run in the mares with annie power?
http://www.oddschecker.com/cheltenham-festival/mares-hurdle/w-o-annie-power
that 11/4 with paddy good?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 16, 2016, 02:05:58 PM
123 entered

86 in the handicap

only 4 horses from outside the handicap have run in the last decade

weights are

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbVVf83UsAEarSe.jpg)

long distance punts might be?

bit.ly/GNationalodds 


Gary Nutting put up Kruzhlinin today, and I suggest you take the 33-1 if any is left.

Clearly it is only running for place money behind Many Clouds though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 16, 2016, 02:08:30 PM
I had a chuckaway tenner on Holywell a while back, and Jonjo looks to have him down to a decent racing weight.

Can't do any harm for fred to have atenner on the nose @ 33/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 16, 2016, 02:10:06 PM
can you put these on tft then please?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 16, 2016, 02:10:41 PM
Will vroum vroum mag run in the mares with annie power?
http://www.oddschecker.com/cheltenham-festival/mares-hurdle/w-o-annie-power
that 11/4 with paddy good?

I wouldn't back it, because I don't think she'll run.

I'd probably prefer to back Polly e/w.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 16, 2016, 02:12:16 PM
Ar Mad is out for the season, trainer Gary Moore has revealed


That is horrible, especially after Violet Dancer was ruled out yesterday too. What a 24 hours!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 16, 2016, 02:13:37 PM
Ar Mad is out for the season, trainer Gary Moore has revealed


That is horrible, especially after Violet Dancer was ruled out yesterday too. What a 24 hours!

Traffic Fluide not long back, too.

Horrendous luck for them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 16, 2016, 02:16:50 PM
Will vroum vroum mag run in the mares with annie power?
http://www.oddschecker.com/cheltenham-festival/mares-hurdle/w-o-annie-power
that 11/4 with paddy good?

I wouldn't back it, because I don't think she'll run.

I'd probably prefer to back Polly e/w.


Why don't you think she will run mate.

I got the impression that if AP ran before the festival she would go to the World H, which surely means VVM goes for the Mares?

I have got AP in ante post Mullins roll ups, and feel like she is somehow going to ruin another festival by probably either swerving the engagement I have her down for with decent odds against prices for the big guns, or she will go WH and do Thistlecrack on the run in. ;grr;

I just smells it, I does.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 16, 2016, 03:48:33 PM
I just get the feeling that they'll take the easy route, as Ricci loves the horse, and wants her to have a Cheltenham win on her CV.

The if she gets a run, was before Tizzard's horse annilhilated the field again, and I think they might take the G1 for Annie this year, knowing that Thistlecrack won't be there next year.

Given what Wylie said last night, and what Ruby said about wanting to ride NC in the World, it wouldn't surprise me to see that rock up there, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 16, 2016, 04:18:56 PM
Brilliant watching Cunningham absolutely freezing his nads off at Ayr on RUK.

You cant hear it in his voice, but every so often you can hear him shivering off mike. lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 16, 2016, 04:37:44 PM
Brilliant watching Cunningham absolutely freezing his nads off at Ayr on RUK.

You cant hear it in his voice, but every so often you can hear him shivering off mike. lol

:D

Who is he up there with?

Can't stand that little midget Naughton?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 16, 2016, 05:22:16 PM
Brooonie, who is all wrapped up, if a little windswept.

Cunningham sounding snotty and miserable now. Think he might be off for a while!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 16, 2016, 05:32:37 PM
Brooonie, who is all wrapped up, if a little windswept.

Cunningham sounding snotty and miserable now. Think he might be off for a while!!

Com :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 16, 2016, 07:26:03 PM
Will vroum vroum mag run in the mares with annie power?
http://www.oddschecker.com/cheltenham-festival/mares-hurdle/w-o-annie-power
that 11/4 with paddy good?

I wouldn't back it, because I don't think she'll run.

I'd probably prefer to back Polly e/w.


Why don't you think she will run mate.

I got the impression that if AP ran before the festival she would go to the World H, which surely means VVM goes for the Mares?

I have got AP in ante post Mullins roll ups, and feel like she is somehow going to ruin another festival by probably either swerving the engagement I have her down for with decent odds against prices for the big guns, or she will go WH and do Thistlecrack on the run in. ;grr;

I just smells it, I does.

Thought it was the other way round, VVM would run in the WH.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 16, 2016, 11:53:18 PM
Mate getting his badbeat post in early doors on Facebook :D


(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12734154_10153957394115798_1016207344235650080_n.jpg?oh=f94cc9c587fe7e652bea6c9cab9da386&oe=576A27B7)

Be glad when it's here, so he can stop asking me about Annie Power every day!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on February 17, 2016, 02:24:39 PM
Wow faugheen


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Simon Galloway on February 17, 2016, 02:32:58 PM
ouch


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 17, 2016, 02:33:14 PM
Going to shake things up more than a bit.

Gone from being a 6-8 runner probable field to 12+ everyone will fancy their chances now and rightly so.

Should be good news for Nichols backers could get an easyish time infront depending on what comes in


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 17, 2016, 02:35:11 PM
It's not bad news for Identity Thief backers @16/1 either ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 17, 2016, 02:37:46 PM
At least we're not worrying about where Annie is going anymore, lol.


Beginning to think ex's account has a Twitter like character limit, as he never seems to expand on the initial few words in his posts :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 17, 2016, 02:46:27 PM
At least we're not worrying about where Annie is going anymore, lol.


Beginning to think ex's account has a Twitter like character limit, as he never seems to expand on the initial few words in his posts :D

I got distracted and missed Annie Power's race, where is she going next?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 17, 2016, 02:52:19 PM
At least we're not worrying about where Annie is going anymore, lol.


Beginning to think ex's account has a Twitter like character limit, as he never seems to expand on the initial few words in his posts :D

I got distracted and missed Annie Power's race, where is she going next?

Gary talking to Willie now, said she could be supplemented for the Champion, and will talk to Ricci Rich.

Said to Gary that he'd feel more for someone like Gary Moore, as at least he has plenty of back up when things like this happen.

Still has the first three in the betting, if you include Annie.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 17, 2016, 03:39:37 PM
Going to shake things up more than a bit.

Gone from being a 6-8 runner probable field to 12+ everyone will fancy their chances now and rightly so.

Should be good news for Nichols backers could get an easyish time infront depending on what comes in


Wouldnt be surprised if this is Rubys lever to get NC into stayers.

AP in CHamp
VVM Mares
NC stayers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 17, 2016, 04:04:56 PM
Going to shake things up more than a bit.

Gone from being a 6-8 runner probable field to 12+ everyone will fancy their chances now and rightly so.

Should be good news for Nichols backers could get an easyish time infront depending on what comes in


Wouldnt be surprised if this is Rubys lever to get NC into stayers.

AP in CHamp
VVM Mares
NC stayers

From what I've seen AP would seem to be better suited to the WH than NC.

Thistlecrack looks pretty damn solid though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: jakally on February 17, 2016, 04:10:13 PM
Going to shake things up more than a bit.

Gone from being a 6-8 runner probable field to 12+ everyone will fancy their chances now and rightly so.

Should be good news for Nichols backers could get an easyish time infront depending on what comes in


Wouldnt be surprised if this is Rubys lever to get NC into stayers.

AP in CHamp
VVM Mares
NC stayers

Nichols Canyon different owners to AP/VVM? Wouldn't they be more inclined to stick at the Champion Hurdle now it's more winable?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 17, 2016, 04:13:59 PM
Going to shake things up more than a bit.

Gone from being a 6-8 runner probable field to 12+ everyone will fancy their chances now and rightly so.

Should be good news for Nichols backers could get an easyish time infront depending on what comes in


Wouldnt be surprised if this is Rubys lever to get NC into stayers.

AP in CHamp
VVM Mares
NC stayers

Nichols Canyon different owners to AP/VVM? Wouldn't they be more inclined to stick at the Champion Hurdle now it's more winable?

Hadn't thought of that seems a good option tbh

Works like a drain at home as Ruby has stated a few times so even if he does run in Champion doubt Ruby will choose him? even if Annie doesnt come in


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 17, 2016, 04:20:54 PM
Last year Mullins was very bullish that Artic Fire would win a CH one day.

Although now fav, he almost feels the forgotten horse.

Annie blazed off in the race today and was miles clear at 2miles. If she were mine I would try it. Sempre Medici wins nothing for Ricci, so why not?

When you see My Tent at 8s after a year off, and New One also sub tens, its doesn't feel a strong field. I know the mares is the easier option, but if Ruby says NC is hard work at home, he will pus for AP to run here, i bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 17, 2016, 04:29:18 PM
Ricci Rich to suck it up for a year, and Annie still to run in Mares.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 17, 2016, 04:30:15 PM
Although, they can take a shot at CH this year, and win the mares next year if she gets beat :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 17, 2016, 04:32:56 PM
Last year Mullins was very bullish that Artic Fire would win a CH one day.

Although now fav, he almost feels the forgotten horse.

Annie blazed off in the race today and was miles clear at 2miles. If she were mine I would try it. Sempre Medici wins nothing for Ricci, so why not?

When you see My Tent at 8s after a year off, and New One also sub tens, its doesn't feel a strong field. I know the mares is the easier option, but if Ruby says NC is hard work at home, he will pus for AP to run here, i bet.

Yep even though there may be more runners it still wont be a strong in depth field.

How it changes the running of the race is the key for me, if NC runs here he will lead if he doesn't that paves the way for AP to make all.

I think from memory NC just doesnt sparkle at home was the same when at Gosdens on the flat. My main concern with NC is the way he went out after smashing the second last, for a horse with such a good strike rate and very few if any below par runs (bar the unseat for Mullins early).

Should be able to forgive a horse like that but something niggles.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 17, 2016, 04:35:52 PM
Nothing to do with Cheltenham but a good read

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/david-milch-made-100m-gambled-866184


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 18, 2016, 11:01:06 AM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkNy6oiE92Q


These are sometimes a bit dull now but found that funny re Faugheen

Min drifting like a barge this morning for the supreme as well


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on February 18, 2016, 11:15:46 AM
Took some 14's on Tombstone, anticipating Min being a n/r ...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 18, 2016, 11:37:16 AM
Took some 14's on Tombstone, anticipating Min being a n/r ...

Looks like a snowballer to me. If Min was about to be announced as a nonner, there wouldn't be deece chunks at three point something there to lay.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 18, 2016, 11:45:20 AM
Bookies just won the lottery, with no possibility of the day 1 roll up now.

Would that not be a reason for them to ease the prices for the others?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on February 18, 2016, 11:49:47 AM
Bookies just won the lottery, with no possibility of the day 1 roll up now.

Would that not be a reason for them to ease the prices for the others?

I still have my "Mullins to win the Supreme, Arkle, Champion hurdle and OLBG mares hurdle" bet ... I'm not quite so confident now it could be Yorkill, Douvan, Arctic Fire and Vroum Vroum running for me haha  rotflmfao


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 18, 2016, 11:55:20 AM
Bookies just won the lottery, with no possibility of the day 1 roll up now.

Would that not be a reason for them to ease the prices for the others?

More likely that Min was just too short?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 18, 2016, 12:01:49 PM
Bookies just won the lottery, with no possibility of the day 1 roll up now.

Would that not be a reason for them to ease the prices for the others?

More likely that Min was just too short?

Definitely too short.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on February 18, 2016, 12:05:01 PM
Hard to believe but the Daily mail tweeted this earlier

https://t.co/r78hzJarpX

This got retweeted by some decent racing accounts on twitter and just spun from there it seems


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 19, 2016, 10:50:17 AM
Amazing scenes.

Hit 8-1 on the machine yesterday according to Clod Duval.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 21, 2016, 12:00:43 PM
Really keen on Copper Birch in the 3.45 at Ffos today.

Ran a cracker against the "S" list of UK Stayers last time out at Haydock in the heavy, only running out of puff in the last half mile finishing a gallant 5th.

Back to 3m at FL off bottom weight and a rating lower than his C&D win. He has had a decent break since that last effort, and this looks like it has been a target race for him.

The Welsh don't like us English winning at FL and 8-1 looks a cracking ew bet today to keep the trophy from going too far West.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 28, 2016, 03:38:09 PM
Sad news violet dancer dies after complications in surgery. Gary Moores done a great job particularly with 2 mile chasers and his bad luck continues. Hoping he has a bit of luck at chelts.


Robbie Power is riding so well in ireland. Hope theres a few horses he can show his talent off at the festival on. Well worth a punt on a tricky or complicated ride (even better if its a nice price).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on March 02, 2016, 09:38:38 AM
Morning all,
                 Wincanton 3.20 Hunter Chase race is interesting, and D-Day for Victoria Pendleton.
It looks like it should be between Pacha and big fella thanks. You can get 13/8 each of 2.
I think if say, Will Biddick was riding Pacha it would be 1/2, but if he was riding Big fella it wouldnt be that short, so in theory Pacha is a decent price IF Victoria can stay on board  :)   The jockey on Big fella is also very inexperienced, only had 3/4 rides last year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: jakally on March 02, 2016, 10:26:21 AM
Morning all,
                 Wincanton 3.20 Hunter Chase race is interesting, and D-Day for Victoria Pendleton.
It looks like it should be between Pacha and big fella thanks. You can get 13/8 each of 2.
I think if say, Will Biddick was riding Pacha it would be 1/2, but if he was riding Big fella it wouldnt be that short, so in theory Pacha is a decent price IF Victoria can stay on board  :)   The jockey on Big fella is also very inexperienced, only had 3/4 rides last year.

Ugh. Looked at her UR last time out, and it's pretty bad. Not sure I want my money with her just yet.
Big Fella is ridden by Noel George, Tom George's son. Only 16 or 17, but won at least a couple of point to points, and highly likely been developing horse sense most of his life.
Think I will be a watcher, rather than a player. Be great if VP wins though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on March 02, 2016, 11:27:11 AM
Hi Jakally,
              Yes although the horse in front unseated and bumped her a bit , it was a very soft unseat.
         Ah i didnt realise he was the son of Tom George , he must of won a point or 2 this year  then, big fella is getting on a bit now tho, hope she does well too, she put a lot of effort in.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on March 02, 2016, 01:34:13 PM
Pendleton has worked very hard to make the progress she has, and it's been a good story to add to the widespread coverage of horse racing, but couldn't back her with counterfeit. From all the PTP reports I've read on her rides, she has struggled to gauge the pace of the race correctly and has set off too quick or left herself too much to do. With experience she'll find a happy medium but it must be tough for her at the moment without that instinctive knowledge. As I can't see her winning there has to be some value elsewhere, so I'l take BFT


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on March 02, 2016, 01:51:31 PM
Hi Nellberg,
                i have watched her at a couple of the points she has ridden in, and yes i would say she does stuggle with judging pace. It makes it a very interesting betting medium, as i think Pacha is far the better horse than Big Fella.
Also makes it harder for her in the hunter chases than the points as she was riding in ladies race. Believe me some of those riders in points that have been riding years are still useless.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 02, 2016, 02:31:16 PM
Jonathon Neesom on RUK has just given her a vote of confidence, stating her fall was at a course he has seen far better jockeys come a cropper.

He seems to think she is very competent and I consider him as good a judge as any tbh.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on March 02, 2016, 02:38:25 PM
She looked very nervous the last day which i think resulted in the mistake. Various people who have seen her in points suggest she is better than that.

The tactics will be the key today, i think the reason Nicholls has asked for the horse to be dropped in so far is because the Cheltenham plan will not be to make all (probably wise) I think if she pops it out front today she wins



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on March 02, 2016, 03:03:03 PM
She was very nervous, prob putting too much pressure on herself, its a small time scale she is working with.
She didnt look any worse than most other riders at the point thats for sure. think she got used to a bike doing exactley as she asked, horses are not as cooperative a lot of the time, come on Victoria you can do it :)
Timing race at wincanton is important, shortish run in an fences come quick in home straight, the cross fence before turning for home particularlly tricky, comes just as you need to be getting a move on / in poss


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 02, 2016, 03:22:40 PM
With the ground being heavy down there the one thing we do know is that she wont lack for fitness.

I hope she wins. Its a good story and hopefully does something positive for racings profile.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 02, 2016, 03:37:12 PM
https://soundcloud.com/emmet-kennedy/neil-channing-sean-boyce-discuss-the-cheltenham-handicaps

Latest FF Pod is a good listen.


Betfair streaming a Cheltenham preview tonight, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on March 02, 2016, 04:17:44 PM
made all lovely stuff


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 02, 2016, 04:18:00 PM
Boooom

Nice one Vicky!


Did it well. At this level you do well to thrash BFT if he is on his game.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 02, 2016, 04:25:07 PM
No horseman, but she looked very comfortable there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on March 02, 2016, 04:28:09 PM
She looked just as good as any of the others infact you would not have been able to tell her apart which is a big testamont.

The drop in trip helped as she could send him on early and she just looked more confident than last week, the second last most impressive as only "bad" jump but sat very very tight


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on March 02, 2016, 04:39:26 PM
BOOM indeed, great stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 02, 2016, 04:40:15 PM
I know she has practice, but she interviews as well as anyone in racing at the moment, and it can only be good for the sport.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 02, 2016, 04:48:24 PM
Yeah, very polished with the media.

PDP-OTF  r/forecast it is ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on March 02, 2016, 05:02:35 PM
Coral go 6/4 she finishes the race

This seems at least fair to me, i think today was about getting a win where as Cheltenham will be about getting round especially as trip not ideal.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on March 03, 2016, 11:54:39 AM
http://www.britishhorseracing.com/press_releases/british-racing-welcomes-governments-announcement-to-deliver-a-new-funding-model-from-april-2017/

A good move to replace the very outdated levy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 05, 2016, 10:28:05 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb6dW3rW4AEE1zs.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 11, 2016, 04:39:57 PM
Sandown 2-40 will make a decent job for question of sport, so grim. Disappointing they let the rogue run in the first race, know its a bit of fun but it was clear that it had no intentions of running the first time they lined up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 13, 2016, 05:18:54 PM
Many Clouds very good there, and hopefully it will leave him sweet for next month.

Would like to see him and Holywell fighting it out as they hit the elbow.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 13, 2016, 05:36:13 PM
Many Clouds very good there, and hopefully it will leave him sweet for next month.

Would like to see him and Holywell fighting it out as they hit the elbow.


Imperious.

Seems to be getting better with age.

I was watching(and taking) the Betfair exchange price during the race, and it was funny that it crashed as they hit the line, not 4/5 furlongs out where he had already showed his well being


Fwiw. A friend of mine, celebrating a win today( ;angel;), asked Neil Mulholand about The Young Master. His remarked that he was worried about the jockey(Sam Wally Cohen). However, he did say he was very keen on Caroles Destrier in the same race, who has come out of a wind operation very well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 13, 2016, 07:06:46 PM
Saw he had SWC booked, and that Carole's had been backed a fair bit, too.

Oh well, better have a saver on that just in case :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 14, 2016, 01:51:10 AM
Le prezien won a g2 today, which is a positive in the yanworth form but also the only other horse to beat him- its'afreebee. 33/1 for the neptune looks a bit of value if he improves for the distance (as he looked like he would when outstaying le prezien.) The line through wouldnt put him in front of yanworth, yanworth won easier, but he at least had to be shaken up to beat le prezien which was more than other g2 horses managed at cheltenham. Rather be on 33/1 ew than evens tho.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 16, 2016, 02:31:44 PM
Le prezien won a g2 today, which is a positive in the yanworth form but also the only other horse to beat him- its'afreebee. 33/1 for the neptune looks a bit of value if he improves for the distance (as he looked like he would when outstaying le prezien.) The line through wouldnt put him in front of yanworth, yanworth won easier, but he at least had to be shaken up to beat le prezien which was more than other g2 horses managed at cheltenham. Rather be on 33/1 ew than evens tho.



50/1 this morning, sneaks a place.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 16, 2016, 02:33:36 PM
Head up my arse today, so missed it.

Great shout, JC.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 16, 2016, 08:12:26 PM
Head up my arse today, so missed it.

Great shout, JC.

Your garde le victoire is a great piece of antepost, forgot all about it until I seen him at the head for the market. Hopefully eat the value pie tomoro


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on March 16, 2016, 09:34:13 PM
yes thx for garde, hopefully wins now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 16, 2016, 10:15:44 PM
Yeah, been pretty golden that everything has gone right weatherwise etc.

Hopefully we manage to get weighed in, and not just left choking on the value :D

GL us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 17, 2016, 02:31:31 PM
Dunno who had a bigger mare, me or the starter


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 17, 2016, 02:44:41 PM
I'm probably somewhere in the mix...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on March 19, 2016, 09:13:08 AM
Being dragged to the amazing Newcastle races today
Can someone give me some winners please!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 19, 2016, 09:27:54 AM
Seldom Inn, has a perfect course record and been running well all season.

Looked to be going places over fences but shifted back to hurdles last time and ran well in a hot pertemps trial that he finished close to Tagliatelle, iirc.

If that is the form I'm thinking of, he should be solid ewe material

Back off to bed. GL mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on March 19, 2016, 09:43:26 AM
Cheers!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 19, 2016, 12:18:11 PM
Seldom Inn, has a perfect course record and been running well all season.

Looked to be going places over fences but shifted back to hurdles last time and ran well in a hot pertemps trial that he finished close to Tagliatelle, iirc.

If that is the form I'm thinking of, he should be solid ewe material

Back off to bed. GL mate

Dan Emmetts qualifier run looks pretty decent after chelts aswell lol.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 19, 2016, 04:10:05 PM
When I think of the terrible trading bets Ive seen on Betty over the years, I couldnt believe that Lady of Lamanver never went below 4(3-1) on the machine when in a ding dong battle over the last 2 at Fontwell there. Beaten a SH, I think too!

Incred.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 19, 2016, 05:33:39 PM
Poor Tizzard... Bet he'll be hitting the hard stuff tonight.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 21, 2016, 08:42:54 PM
A couple of maybes for tomorrow.

Ms Lavelles horses are starting to run better and Mrs Robin at 14s 365(4.40 Ex) looks like it will be considerably shorter tomorrow. Should even be able to lay it back if it goes too short!!! ;D


Howlongisafoot was well touted by Nicholls at the start of the year and has so far struggled on soft ground. Hoping for better, on better (4.10 Ex 13/2)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 22, 2016, 07:08:21 PM
Skybet money back if second in a 4 horse race, 2.00 at southwell tomorrow


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Girgy85 on March 23, 2016, 01:07:25 AM
3:05 Southwell Birrafun massively fancied tomorrow, straight from the trainer...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 23, 2016, 01:42:07 PM
this is good

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf-cHNC6hRU


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 23, 2016, 02:57:48 PM
this is good

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf-cHNC6hRU

Class


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Simon Galloway on March 23, 2016, 03:56:26 PM
3:05 Southwell Birrafun massively fancied tomorrow, straight from the trainer...

(http://incidentnews.noaa.gov/thumb/13085/DSC00670_thumb200.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Simon Galloway on March 23, 2016, 03:59:54 PM
and wins, obv :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Dewi_cool on March 23, 2016, 04:00:07 PM
3:05 Southwell Birrafun massively fancied tomorrow, straight from the trainer...

 :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: thesilkworm on March 23, 2016, 04:00:28 PM
Thanks for that Girgy - got on at 9.2 (worse than BSP but can't complain) :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Ledders on March 23, 2016, 04:01:30 PM
thanks Girgy!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: engy on March 23, 2016, 04:06:14 PM
cheers girgy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 23, 2016, 06:45:40 PM
cheers girgy, clearly has more despite margin aswell.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 23, 2016, 07:37:45 PM
Magnificent. Ty G.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on March 24, 2016, 01:54:33 AM
cheers girgy!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: booder on March 24, 2016, 11:40:39 AM
cheers girgy!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 24, 2016, 11:46:19 AM
Forgot about this.

Nice one, Girgs!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on March 24, 2016, 02:26:07 PM
I have a £50 free bet to be used on something that has to be > 1/1 but < 10/1 Any suggestions appreciated.  I was going to back Wishsong in the 4:05 today as it appeared in an alert I must have set up.    Having looked at the race in more detail, I am not feeling that one so much. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on March 24, 2016, 03:23:54 PM
I have a £50 free bet to be used on something that has to be > 1/1 but < 10/1 Any suggestions appreciated.  I was going to back Wishsong in the 4:05 today as it appeared in an alert I must have set up.    Having looked at the race in more detail, I am not feeling that one so much. 

Florrie Boy in the 2.40


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on March 24, 2016, 03:43:25 PM
I have a £50 free bet to be used on something that has to be > 1/1 but < 10/1 Any suggestions appreciated.  I was going to back Wishsong in the 4:05 today as it appeared in an alert I must have set up.    Having looked at the race in more detail, I am not feeling that one so much. 

Florrie Boy in the 2.40

Just popped out for a sarny and missed this one, hopefully it won if you backed it.  Result not came up on my PC yet.   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on March 24, 2016, 03:52:20 PM
Typical, well done mate.   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 24, 2016, 04:58:58 PM
I have a £50 free bet to be used on something that has to be > 1/1 but < 10/1 Any suggestions appreciated.  I was going to back Wishsong in the 4:05 today as it appeared in an alert I must have set up.    Having looked at the race in more detail, I am not feeling that one so much. 

Florrie Boy in the 2.40

nice, was a real sweat lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 24, 2016, 07:08:52 PM
waley-cohen tweeting hes free to ride in the national. Only 39 to look sort through then....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Girgy85 on March 25, 2016, 07:23:06 AM
Red Baron 4.00 wolves
4/1 fancied to go in.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 25, 2016, 11:59:45 AM
waley-cohen tweeting hes free to ride in the national. Only 39 to look sort through then....

He's actually got a tremendous record over the big fences at Aintree.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 25, 2016, 12:02:39 PM
waley-cohen tweeting hes free to ride in the national. Only 39 to look sort through then....

He's actually got a tremendous record over the big fences at Aintree.

I know it was a joke. His record is a bit of a misrepresentation though, as daddy has bought plenty of horses so he can ride them, that have utter hacked round as they probably shouldnt have been in the race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 25, 2016, 12:07:17 PM
Sample size makes it meaningless but I wouldn't put a line through what he rides over the big fences.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 25, 2016, 12:13:35 PM
Sample size makes it meaningless but I wouldn't put a line through what he rides over the big fences.

No in seriousness, especially when daddy will probably buy into a good'un so he can ride it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 25, 2016, 12:27:37 PM
We should be against Grendisar today but can't work out how best to approach it. It's the same race we lost to one of the fastest ever furlongs last year from Tryster. All thoughts are welcome.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on March 25, 2016, 12:29:02 PM
Fastest over 1m + that I can find.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on March 25, 2016, 12:34:36 PM
Lingfield 2:10 - Realize

I've been waiting for this one to run again. Yes, this is a tougher ask, but last time out it finished with a tonne in hand, but not far behind, having been boxed in when ready to make his move.

Better jockey on top aswell, so I think it's a decent EW bet, currently 8/1 with Bet365.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on March 25, 2016, 12:35:44 PM
Lol - that's Realize in Lingfield's 2:10

Sorry folks, I'm very much a novice when it comes to using the posting functions here.

I'm sure all will be forgiven if this one comes in a winner, though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on March 25, 2016, 03:22:16 PM
Unlucky not to get the place there, looked like he was blocked off at 2 crucial moments.   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on March 25, 2016, 04:57:01 PM
Was watching odds on girgy horse on betfair on phone
Went evens I think :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: engy on March 26, 2016, 02:03:11 AM
off to haydock races tomorrow any fancies would be appreciated :) 1st race is money back if 2nd or 3rd if anyone likes anything
 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Weetabix on March 26, 2016, 06:04:50 AM
Heading there myself, super competitive races today.  Alzamaar and King Massini.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 26, 2016, 09:52:00 AM
Was watching odds on girgy horse on betfair on phone
Went evens I think :(

Always looked like it was going to get beat to me. Seemed a solid tip, beat on all the ones it was fairly weighted against.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 26, 2016, 10:46:50 AM
off to haydock races tomorrow any fancies would be appreciated :) 1st race is money back if 2nd or 3rd if anyone likes anything
 

Feeling luckless with suggestions made recently, but here goes.

2.00 Ballybolley. Jumped brilliantly last time, and quick return and shorter trip look the key.

2.35 Alzamaar. Crying out for longer trip and Wazza kicking in the winners again.

3.10 Jac The Legend. Has looked likely to pick up a nice prize for a while, but looks a solid conveyance.

3.45 Aperix looks progressive and hopefully continue a good day for Ellison and Sheehan

Ok. 4 for you to avoid! Good Luck Boys.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 26, 2016, 10:48:28 AM
That's my day sorted.

Cheers Adz :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: jakally on March 26, 2016, 10:53:19 AM
off to haydock races tomorrow any fancies would be appreciated :) 1st race is money back if 2nd or 3rd if anyone likes anything
 

I like Hannah's Princess in the first. Won easily last time and goes on the ground.
Hope you have a good day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 26, 2016, 11:01:53 AM
off to haydock races tomorrow any fancies would be appreciated :) 1st race is money back if 2nd or 3rd if anyone likes anything
 

Feeling luckless with suggestions made recently, but here goes.

2.00 Ballybolley. Jumped brilliantly last time, and quick return and shorter trip look the key.

2.35 Alzamaar. Crying out for longer trip and Wazza kicking in the winners again.

3.10 Jac The Legend. Has looked likely to pick up a nice prize for a while, but looks a solid conveyance.

3.45 Aperix looks progressive and hopefully continue a good day for Ellison and Sheehan

Ok. 4 for you to avoid! Good Luck Boys.

The rag gave apterix (who I like) a stone in real terms in a close race at sedgefield last year (he should have won but ran all over the shop as per). Would be taking a lot on trust with Venue but if he retains ability hes chucked in. Musselburgh was totally unsuitable ground and they made no attempt to run the race the way he likes (from the front). Hes got some canny haydock form aswell lol.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on March 26, 2016, 11:05:45 AM
That's my day sorted.

Cheers Adz :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 26, 2016, 01:22:01 PM
Having just seen Watson win the first at Meydan gaining a 1,2,3 total blitz up, I feel a bit braver about suggesting a small ew on Basateen later in the 3.45

It was really highly touted when with Hannon, but never quite got there, but in his first race for Watson he was a different horse. yes, it was a handicap, but that extra year, change of scenery, sun on back etc etc etc could have been the key.

At 33s looks like worth a small ew investissement!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on March 26, 2016, 02:58:17 PM
Absolutely pissed it

Cheers Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RobbieP on March 26, 2016, 03:00:07 PM
Darts cheers Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on March 26, 2016, 03:00:49 PM
Cheers Adz!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 26, 2016, 03:11:46 PM
Cheers. Hopefully a few of you got the 7 on 365 this morning.

One or two more would be just dandy though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 26, 2016, 04:47:20 PM
Frustrating ten mins

a wiiner and two places for the Haddock boys, and Apertix getting chopped at crucial moment after having t hurdle a horse, and then Basateen getting trapped behind the nut worst horse against the rail and still ran on well.

Ho Hum. Live to fight another day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 26, 2016, 04:56:00 PM
Unlucky mate, but knocking on the door, and a winner more than covers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: engy on March 27, 2016, 11:19:20 AM
Cheers Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 27, 2016, 10:06:34 PM
I dont like putting these up normally but probably worth a few bob on Neck or Nothing in the 2.25 at MR.

Hoping to see him back to the kind of form he produced as a bumper. If he is back to his best, he could be quite well handicapped.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 28, 2016, 02:30:27 PM
I dont like putting these up normally but probably worth a few bob on Neck or Nothing in the 2.25 at MR.

Hoping to see him back to the kind of form he produced as a bumper. If he is back to his best, he could be quite well handicapped.

Small word of caution, ground felt bit stickier than hoped for after the rain and also strong word on course for Lucky Jim, but team still happy that Neck will run ok


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 28, 2016, 03:12:50 PM
I dont like putting these up normally but probably worth a few bob on Neck or Nothing in the 2.25 at MR.

Hoping to see him back to the kind of form he produced as a bumper. If he is back to his best, he could be quite well handicapped.

Small word of caution, ground felt bit stickier than hoped for after the rain and also strong word on course for Lucky Jim, but team still happy that Neck will run ok

Had a score for interest.

GL us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 28, 2016, 04:03:12 PM
Sorry mate, I weighed the poor bugger down, lol.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 28, 2016, 05:12:00 PM
Sorry mate, I weighed the poor bugger down, lol.

Haha. Hardly.

Touchy said he just didnt like the ground. Lost an iron briefly and then clobbered one and he decided was best not to punish him after a long break.

When you think it was a couple of lengths off Thistlecrack as a Bumper, you would still hope there are better days ahead.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 28, 2016, 09:58:53 PM
Sorry mate, I weighed the poor bugger down, lol.

Haha. Hardly.

Touchy said he just didnt like the ground. Lost an iron briefly and then clobbered one and he decided was best not to punish him after a long break.

When you think it was a couple of lengths off Thistlecrack as a Bumper, you would still hope there are better days ahead.

Thought before he hit the fence he was out of gas but before that he travelled nice and jumped well enough. Just needed it maybe.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 28, 2016, 10:17:52 PM
Sorry mate, I weighed the poor bugger down, lol.

Haha. Hardly.

Touchy said he just didnt like the ground. Lost an iron briefly and then clobbered one and he decided was best not to punish him after a long break.

When you think it was a couple of lengths off Thistlecrack as a Bumper, you would still hope there are better days ahead.

Thought before he hit the fence he was out of gas but before that he travelled nice and jumped well enough. Just needed it maybe.


I thought similar, was just reporting back what I was told.

A  "friend" has bought a share in Imperial Racing Club, and one of the horses Imperial Eloquance makes its debut in the bumper at Hexham tomorrow. Fergal has taken it up there as he hoped and expected it to be a weak affair, and the horse has been working well. Not quite as weak as you would hope for a Tuesday at Hexham but fingers crossed.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Cavey007 on March 29, 2016, 05:48:07 PM
Winner at 6s!  Good work guys


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: DonkBets on March 29, 2016, 05:48:52 PM
Cheers Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on March 29, 2016, 05:49:57 PM
Nice one Adz. Thanks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2016, 05:51:45 PM
Decent enough intro, and all went to plan.

Makes a pleasant change!! ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 29, 2016, 06:07:25 PM
You know why :D


Nice one Adz!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: a.sparrow on March 29, 2016, 06:12:58 PM
Cheers adz!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 29, 2016, 06:44:05 PM
Decent enough intro, and all went to plan.

Makes a pleasant change!! ;D

Never doubted bud. Looks nice, think he pressed the button too early and we can expect more next time. Second looks quite nice aswell, was caught on the rail when ours made the move and basically won it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 29, 2016, 06:45:51 PM
You know why :D


Nice one Adz!

Yeah I missed it too, which made it a mortgage job.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 29, 2016, 06:47:35 PM
Lovely stuff, Adz. Nice to see someone tipping winners in proper sports.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Micko on March 29, 2016, 08:03:49 PM
Sorry mate, I weighed the poor bugger down, lol.

Haha. Hardly.

Touchy said he just didnt like the ground. Lost an iron briefly and then clobbered one and he decided was best not to punish him after a long break.

When you think it was a couple of lengths off Thistlecrack as a Bumper, you would still hope there are better days ahead.

Thought before he hit the fence he was out of gas but before that he travelled nice and jumped well enough. Just needed it maybe.


I thought similar, was just reporting back what I was told.

A  "friend" has bought a share in Imperial Racing Club, and one of the horses Imperial Eloquance makes its debut in the bumper at Hexham tomorrow. Fergal has taken it up there as he hoped and expected it to be a weak affair, and the horse has been working well. Not quite as weak as you would hope for a Tuesday at Hexham but fingers crossed.

Luvelly jubelly Adz!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on March 29, 2016, 08:27:16 PM
Well done Adz

Quite like one at Southwell tomorrow but risks attached being a second-lifetime run and drawn 12 over 6 furlongs which is never good here.

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/2016-03-30-southwell/14:20/winner

Chez Vegas was nibbled on debut last time in the morning before drifting all the way till the race last time and any price on the machine. Looked clueless for much of the race and Curtis let it come home on the dead rail, unusually he made up some late ground there which caught my eye anyway.

This is not a good maiden even for the track, the fav at present Spice Mill beat us easily enough last time but i didn't especially like the way it hung late on should run well but beatable. Avalanche Express the next in is trained by Muir which is never a bonus and just ran ok on all starts last year some of the breeding is a plus for here and good draw but very beatable.

David Barron and MJ always need to be respected around here but Barrons have needed the run first time around here last few years and MJS just showed pace last year no idea what trip it needs it.

A few others with bits and bobs of promise but wrong trip for St Andrews (got ability needs this for a mark for Ian Williams) Iconic Figure gone from O Meara to Gollings not going to improve it and Silver Bid who ran ok on debut at Wolves but second time would not be a usual Alan Bailey project.

Chez Vegas is drawn next to the fav, Ordinal and Iconic Figure all of whom show pace so I am hoping a bad draw turns into a decent one after a furlong. 

Not backed it yet but will do so tomorrow only a small bet due to the nature of the race, Scott Dixon has had a good March as well which is another positive.





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 29, 2016, 10:15:37 PM
Cheers all.


Hate to overdo it, but quite like Lucy The Painter at Kempton tomorrow. 6.25.

Was with Peter Makin up to his retirement at the end of last year. Good trainer as he was, the last few years were poor and I suspect there may well be something left to work on. I always thought she was worth another try over 7f and she gets a chance.

Ed de Giles is the new trainer and normally gets them straight first run up, so wouldn't be surprised to see the current 4-1 go. If not tomorrow, probably one to follow.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Cavey007 on March 30, 2016, 08:22:40 AM
Well done Adz

Quite like one at Southwell tomorrow but risks attached being a second-lifetime run and drawn 12 over 6 furlongs which is never good here.

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/2016-03-30-southwell/14:20/winner

Chez Vegas was nibbled on debut last time in the morning before drifting all the way till the race last time and any price on the machine. Looked clueless for much of the race and Curtis let it come home on the dead rail, unusually he made up some late ground there which caught my eye anyway.

This is not a good maiden even for the track, the fav at present Spice Mill beat us easily enough last time but i didn't especially like the way it hung late on should run well but beatable. Avalanche Express the next in is trained by Muir which is never a bonus and just ran ok on all starts last year some of the breeding is a plus for here and good draw but very beatable.

David Barron and MJ always need to be respected around here but Barrons have needed the run first time around here last few years and MJS just showed pace last year no idea what trip it needs it.

A few others with bits and bobs of promise but wrong trip for St Andrews (got ability needs this for a mark for Ian Williams) Iconic Figure gone from O Meara to Gollings not going to improve it and Silver Bid who ran ok on debut at Wolves but second time would not be a usual Alan Bailey project.

Chez Vegas is drawn next to the fav, Ordinal and Iconic Figure all of whom show pace so I am hoping a bad draw turns into a decent one after a furlong. 

Not backed it yet but will do so tomorrow only a small bet due to the nature of the race, Scott Dixon has had a good March as well which is another positive.





I bloody hate Southwell on the fibresand. But would rude not to have a little nibble at 16/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on March 30, 2016, 02:40:19 PM
All the money for the Bailey animal looks like going of fav now.

Chez not really moved in the market, will have a top up on the machine near the off if bigger than 25s available


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on March 30, 2016, 03:17:35 PM
Lost position around bend after a slight knock outpaced and did a little late work.

Wont be in the notebook again

apols nice performance from the barron newcomer looked to know its job


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Cavey007 on March 30, 2016, 03:18:51 PM
Not great.

Never looked happy, ridden along quite early and didnt seem to respond until it straightened up. Even then didn't do much

Had a little on Ordinal after they said it was the only Johnston runner today. That was pretty poor too!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: judge on March 30, 2016, 06:12:23 PM
I've just heard that a few lumpy bets have been placed on an apprentice handicap at kempton on insolenceofoffice in the 5.55 some big cash bets on and a few refused by PP essex area . hard to fancy horses that keep coming last but  money talks...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Cavey007 on March 30, 2016, 06:51:42 PM
Someone knew something!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on March 30, 2016, 06:52:04 PM
Ty Judge!

Ridden as if his life depended on it, returned at 12's, so very nice indeed.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 30, 2016, 06:53:29 PM
I've just heard that a few lumpy bets have been placed on an apprentice handicap at kempton on insolenceofoffice in the 5.55 some big cash bets on and a few refused by PP essex area . hard to fancy horses that keep coming last but  money talks...


Oh man.

Logged on about a minute too late.

Boss!!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 30, 2016, 07:13:13 PM
Cheers all.


Hate to overdo it, but quite like Lucy The Painter at Kempton tomorrow. 6.25.

Was with Peter Makin up to his retirement at the end of last year. Good trainer as he was, the last few years were poor and I suspect there may well be something left to work on. I always thought she was worth another try over 7f and she gets a chance.

Ed de Giles is the new trainer and normally gets them straight first run up, so wouldn't be surprised to see the current 4-1 go. If not tomorrow, probably one to follow.


4-1 looks good now. Lets hope she can do the biz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on March 30, 2016, 07:21:19 PM
Luvly jubbly BigAdz!

Very nice turn of foot off the bend to win impressively going away.

That's a Boom Boom, then.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on March 30, 2016, 07:43:38 PM
Smashed it Adz, well done.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 30, 2016, 08:40:40 PM
BOOOOOOOM

Lovely. Dotted up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on March 30, 2016, 08:57:14 PM
Nice one adz and the Richard ford massive!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Simon Galloway on March 30, 2016, 10:56:01 PM
I should check this thread more often :) 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rod Paradise on March 30, 2016, 11:57:47 PM
Thanks Adz - just in to a nice bink :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on March 31, 2016, 10:06:38 AM
Top work Adz!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: stribling on March 31, 2016, 07:44:18 PM
Bit late. But thanks Adz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 01, 2016, 05:53:00 PM
Its that time of year when the tracker starts pinging with three year olds that caught the eye last year.

Wanted to see if my eye was in before I posted any, but as its such a big price, its worth a post.

My favourite small yard trainer, Ismail Mohamed, has Possible Future out in the 8.15. It looked a big weak two year old last term, but ran some eyecatching races, and hopefully has matured over the winter. It has also been gelded. I would like to have seen a run, but I thought it had a workable initial mark, and at 22s with Billy, may be worth a couple of sneaky ew pounds, just in case he has been primed.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 01, 2016, 07:52:05 PM
Good luck Adz

The yard did well in Dubai this winter especially at jebel certainly in respect of their sp's.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 01, 2016, 08:41:51 PM
Ismail wins the maiden with a 30 betfair sp animal


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 01, 2016, 08:44:21 PM
Typically his other one tonight has just won at 16s. No doubt I have put up the wrong one! ;noflopshomer;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 01, 2016, 09:12:12 PM
Like all the best ew bets, close 4th, but defo one for next time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 01, 2016, 09:16:52 PM
Ismail wins the maiden with a 30 betfair sp animal

Interesting runners from the trainer.

Ban shoof up in distance and sire is shirocco (annie power, brown panthers, staying profiles basically)
Possible future by compton place, barely anything by him ever runs beyond 6f (altho halfbrother on dam side improved for step up to 1m plus)

Possible futures race was a bit nasty for the class.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 02, 2016, 03:36:19 PM
No financial interest, but I can see why Dennis O Regan gets fewer and fewer rides, looked so weak final few fences.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 02, 2016, 08:06:52 PM
Ismail got one out I want to be with tomorrow.

Amazour won a couple last year but looked to have had enough at the end of the year.

Having won after a mid season break, and with the stable in good form, he looks a nice prospect to progress again this year and 12-1 looks ok for the 3.30 against a field full of older horses that normally need a run. Dangers may be Tiger Jim and Ballymore Castle.

Take the 12s.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 05, 2016, 10:27:43 AM

Does anyone know the backstory on this?


http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/dishonest-jim-best-given-four-year-ban-in-non-triers-case/2058248/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews


It looks like the Trainer tried to palm the whole thing off on the Jockey, if I read it correctly?

The Jockey may be a wrong 'un, I've no idea, but if his Trainer told him to give them an easy ride out the back, it's not an easy spot for a young man.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on April 05, 2016, 10:31:43 AM
Jim Best is most known for withdrawing his horses on the day. Can't believe anyone in history has done it more. Not sure what's in it for him though.

The Geraghty non-trier ban at the weekend is the most ridic thing ever. All jockeys bar the winner got the race wrong. You can't single out Geraghty just coz his rattled home for second. Winning jockey rode them to sleep.

Same thing happened at Ffos Las a couple of weeks ago, but you can't give every jockey bar the winner a ban for being a non-trier.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 05, 2016, 10:43:44 AM

Does anyone know the backstory on this?


http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/dishonest-jim-best-given-four-year-ban-in-non-triers-case/2058248/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews


It looks like the Trainer tried to palm the whole thing off on the Jockey, if I read it correctly?

The Jockey may be a wrong 'un, I've no idea, but if his Trainer told him to give them an easy ride out the back, it's not an easy spot for a young man.

Jim best is an "interesting" man

Interestingly he claimed two flat horses last week expect a Mrs best to be training soon


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2016, 10:58:44 AM
Jim Best is most known for withdrawing his horses on the day. Can't believe anyone in history has done it more. Not sure what's in it for him though.

The Geraghty non-trier ban at the weekend is the most ridic thing ever. All jockeys bar the winner got the race wrong. You can't single out Geraghty just coz his rattled home for second. Winning jockey rode them to sleep.

Same thing happened at Ffos Las a couple of weeks ago, but you can't give every jockey bar the winner a ban for being a non-trier.


I suspect the knives are out for him for his general way of going to market.

How many times have I gone to bed after looking at the markets at seen 3-1 the field run of the mill race and woken to find a Jim Best horse has been backed from leftfield into odds on, after several quiet runs(ergo a ride from an instructed jockey to go easy on it), or as John says, a purchase from France or Outer Mongolia, that know one has ever heard of.

You know it will win, but just can't get involved because there is no value in it at all, it would be blind faith in knowing he has been "playing the game".

This will probably be why no one trusts or cares for Mr Best.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on April 05, 2016, 11:32:25 AM
Is the young jockey likely to be outcast if he gets his license back? 

I remember a flat jockey from a few years back receiving pretty reprehensible treatment when he outed some issues, I think his name was Newman?  Scottish fella, I read it in one of our daily's. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 05, 2016, 11:33:49 AM
I think best picked the wrong apprentice this time. Paul John is obviously a bit full of himself (hence 4 trainers in a year) but he has his own mind and decided to tell the truth when so many job jockeys would not.

Brave at best of times but especially so when you are dealing with jim

http://m.theargus.co.uk/news/4301166.Gun_scare_as_Lewes_horse_racing_rivals_fall_out/


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 05, 2016, 11:36:08 AM
Is the young jockey likely to be outcast if he gets his license back? 

I remember a flat jockey from a few years back receiving pretty reprehensible treatment when he outed some issues, I think his name was Newman?  Scottish fella, I read it in one of our daily's. 

Justin Newman.  Think he had weight issues as well tbf.

He probably will be but more because he has already done the houses a bit. As the panel said he can certainly ride when allowed to so suspect he gets another chance if he wants it.

Problem is he will be at the bottom of the rung again,not very fashionable and likely riding 100s shots . Usually they comeback for a few months realise they are not going to get the rides anyone needs and give up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on April 05, 2016, 03:35:45 PM
Just been reading back, see Adz has been on form. Well done mate, let's hope Many Clouds regains the title.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2016, 04:09:19 PM
Just been reading back, see Adz has been on form. Well done mate, let's hope Many Clouds regains the title.


Cheers mate, and to your point on the other thread, it would be rude not to now you have mentioned it!! :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 05, 2016, 08:41:54 PM
Jim Best is most known for withdrawing his horses on the day. Can't believe anyone in history has done it more. Not sure what's in it for him though.

The Geraghty non-trier ban at the weekend is the most ridic thing ever. All jockeys bar the winner got the race wrong. You can't single out Geraghty just coz his rattled home for second. Winning jockey rode them to sleep.

Same thing happened at Ffos Las a couple of weeks ago, but you can't give every jockey bar the winner a ban for being a non-trier.

Think they must have backed yanworth, it was pointless, especially in ireland where people try to nick it in so many races. He follows the third favourite into the straight whos tanked, he needs the front one to stop but why wouldnt he when everything else is struggling. People nick races, if it didnt happen people wouldnt try.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 06, 2016, 05:17:00 PM
Frosty berry is a listed winner..... true Southwell legend


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 07, 2016, 12:19:08 AM
Frosty berry is a listed winner..... true Southwell legend

I still dont see how, it just cant.


Rock the World is interesting in the first race at aintree esp ew if the 8 hold. Hes never far away and there was chunks for him at chelts where he did well enough giving weight to two in front and 4ths won since in a decent race at kelso. This is tougher but stable are prety picky and would have thought they fancy him if hes not being saved for ireland.

Think on the fringe might be a bit vulnerable at this distance these days (wasnt travelling at chelts so may have needed the half mile to get home). No idea what to bet tho, old major malarkey seems in good spirits and has run well here and dineur seems interesting at a big price


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on April 07, 2016, 12:39:20 AM
Back the winner PdP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 07, 2016, 02:38:56 AM
Back the winner PdP


My old memory had it that OTF pissed up but watching the replay back today, it was PDP that lead them a merry one until the last when OTF came back on the bit and in the end only won a few lengths.

Even an OTF fan like me would rather do PDP  ew.

Hoping to see a major upset if an old friend can continue to build on leaving Ms Lavelle. Mountain to climb for Daymar Bay but always felt he was destined for big things years ago. I shall Chuck some shrapnel at him to for old times sake.


Hoping to see Saphir ruffle the feathers of the big three and reckon 16s  looks big ew against them. For a horse Nichols always felt was a future Gold Cup winner, he seems to have been written off rather quickly.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on April 07, 2016, 04:05:22 AM
I was looking foward to Aintree this week, but some of the prices for the races are just lol.

The whole reaction to the Gold Cup is just lol. I don't believe for a single minute that Don Cossack was ever going to get beat, but yet they think "cue card was coming to win the race before falling", I do not think so. I potentially think it would have struggled for second with Djakadam. 11/10 for Cue Card, no thank you.

Ivanovic- G is just lol at 11/10 also. Really? Apple Jade I shall be on.

They aren't giving anything away on Thursday that is for sure.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 07, 2016, 04:57:36 AM
I was looking foward to Aintree this week, but some of the prices for the races are just lol.

The whole reaction to the Gold Cup is just lol. I don't believe for a single minute that Don Cossack was ever going to get beat, but yet they think "cue card was coming to win the race before falling", I do not think so. I potentially think it would have struggled for second with Djakadam. 11/10 for Cue Card, no thank you.

Ivanovic- G is just lol at 11/10 also. Really? Apple Jade I shall be on.

They aren't giving anything away on Thursday that is for sure.


If the horses you don't like are too short, surely that's good?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on April 07, 2016, 05:14:16 AM
I was looking foward to Aintree this week, but some of the prices for the races are just lol.

The whole reaction to the Gold Cup is just lol. I don't believe for a single minute that Don Cossack was ever going to get beat, but yet they think "cue card was coming to win the race before falling", I do not think so. I potentially think it would have struggled for second with Djakadam. 11/10 for Cue Card, no thank you.

Ivanovic- G is just lol at 11/10 also. Really? Apple Jade I shall be on.

They aren't giving anything away on Thursday that is for sure.


If the horses you don't like are too short, surely that's good?

Cue Card is 11/8 on Betfair.  It won the king george and the Betfair and was in a two horse race for the Gold Cup.  Dom Poli is a bit of a plodder who likely needs further and likely just stays on for a place and the rest aren't really classy enough.  11/8 is surely what you'd expect?   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on April 07, 2016, 08:23:15 AM
I was looking foward to Aintree this week, but some of the prices for the races are just lol.

The whole reaction to the Gold Cup is just lol. I don't believe for a single minute that Don Cossack was ever going to get beat, but yet they think "cue card was coming to win the race before falling", I do not think so. I potentially think it would have struggled for second with Djakadam. 11/10 for Cue Card, no thank you.

Ivanovic- G is just lol at 11/10 also. Really? Apple Jade I shall be on.

They aren't giving anything away on Thursday that is for sure.


If the horses you don't like are too short, surely that's good?

Cue Card is 11/8 on Betfair.  It won the king george and the Betfair and was in a two horse race for the Gold Cup.  Dom Poli is a bit of a plodder who likely needs further and likely just stays on for a place and the rest aren't really classy enough.  11/8 is surely what you'd expect?   

I don't think the GC was a two horse race at any point. Djakadam was on the bridle all way round, but just found nothing, Don Poli stayed on and CC fell. I don't really believe that CC was getting much closer to Don Cossack than Djakadam did.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 07, 2016, 09:24:23 AM
I have never backed CC and have no allegiance whatsoever,but when he jumped ahead looked to be going best to me.

Happy to take him on today regardless. He has been on the go all season and must have been trained to the minute for that million pound bonus.

After a fall and a long season, I would be taking him on as a sort of punting obligation really.

He may well win, but that is the sort of recipe you look for when trying to get the favs beat.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 07, 2016, 10:35:42 PM


Think on the fringe might be a bit vulnerable at this distance these days (wasnt travelling at chelts so may have needed the half mile to get home). No idea what to bet tho, old major malarkey seems in good spirits and has run well here and dineur seems interesting at a big price

lol analyisis but the 50/1 second eases the pain


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 07, 2016, 11:24:41 PM


Think on the fringe might be a bit vulnerable at this distance these days (wasnt travelling at chelts so may have needed the half mile to get home). No idea what to bet tho, old major malarkey seems in good spirits and has run well here and dineur seems interesting at a big price

lol analyisis but the 50/1 second eases the pain

Nice pick JC. When I saw him up there, I knew someone had mentioned it somewhere!


Lovely card tomorrow, looking to Killer Crow to run well after running out of stamina in the Irish National. Wouldnt be surprised to see Corrin Wood run well at a massive price (66s)after showing up for a long way at Chelts. Should love these fences.

One to try and get on now, as I hope to see a bold show from Le Prezien up against Yanworth and Yorkhill on Saturday, can get 20s with Tote now, and expect no more than 10s on the day, to hopefully challenge the big two, if not scoop the place money at a nice return.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 07, 2016, 11:34:21 PM
I love corrin wood even backed him for the national at any old price.

I thought he had gone but last time like you say adz he ran a lot better than finishing position suggest.

I will have a small bet but the more rain that falls the better he has not had the true soft ground for a long time.

Gdlk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: stribling on April 08, 2016, 12:55:08 AM
Is there anywhere i can view highlights of today's aintree races online?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 08, 2016, 01:11:59 AM
Is there anywhere i can view highlights of today's aintree races online?

I usually use sporting life, go to yesterdays full results and you can watch each race by clicking on the video symbol on the right hand side providing you have a skybet account.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 08, 2016, 02:01:04 PM


Think on the fringe might be a bit vulnerable at this distance these days (wasnt travelling at chelts so may have needed the half mile to get home). No idea what to bet tho, old major malarkey seems in good spirits and has run well here and dineur seems interesting at a big price

lol analyisis but the 50/1 second eases the pain

Nice pick JC. When I saw him up there, I knew someone had mentioned it somewhere!


Lovely card tomorrow, looking to Killer Crow to run well after running out of stamina in the Irish National. Wouldnt be surprised to see Corrin Wood run well at a massive price (66s)after showing up for a long way at Chelts. Should love these fences.

One to try and get on now, as I hope to see a bold show from Le Prezien up against Yanworth and Yorkhill on Saturday, can get 20s with Tote now, and expect no more than 10s on the day, to hopefully challenge the big two, if not scoop the place money at a nice return.


Hopefully a few of you took the 20s on Le Prezien. The final decs are out and there are 7 declared. No Yanworth. I quite like the chance of at least a Top 3 finish now! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 09, 2016, 03:26:59 PM
Great shout mate, and unlucky not to scoop.

Yorkhill must be an absolute monster to still win there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 09, 2016, 03:42:56 PM
wp adz, thought we were on for a sec but yorkhill prob had plenty even though he treated townend like a supply teacher.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 09, 2016, 05:27:13 PM
Cheers Guys

Thought our RP correspondent might have been on congratulating me on finding such a spot and getting paid out....... ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 09, 2016, 07:45:10 PM
Robbie Dunne surfing the horse to stay on and be in contention in the national was awesome.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 09, 2016, 08:00:47 PM
Yeah, some sit that was.

Nowhere near as bad, but the winner looked to almost go over the top, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on April 09, 2016, 09:14:00 PM
Apologies for the aftertimiming is that's what you call it in racing but I backed Gilgamboa at 80/1 I near wet my pants 2 from home. 

I ended up with the 2nd, 4th and 6th. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on April 15, 2016, 08:52:26 PM
This thread is way too far down the page...

Scotch Nash tomorrow and all decent firms are going five places (see you Sportingbet and Hills).
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/2016-04-16-ayr/16:10/winner (http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/2016-04-16-ayr/16:10/winner)

Willie's sent over the fav to piss on Paul Nicholls's trainers' championship chips. Second fav is the horse JP should have won the Grand National with who now has to run off his true - 12lb higher - mark. The third in is the obvious jobber from the up-to-now a bit quiet Tony Martin yard.

Away from the front, I've burdened Spookydooky (20-1) who is 2lbs lower than his Midlands National fourth, Dicky up, Jonjo's decided to start winning, cheekpieces first time, and (gulp) Shotgun Paddy (33-1) who's had a hard season and hits fences but who finished second in the Eider and third in the Welsh National off a lower weight than he carries in this and who also has the sheepskin sideburns on for the first time.

I would love to hear other thoughts. Good luck if you play.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 16, 2016, 04:07:40 PM
Backed Highland Lodge after it missed out in the National.

Has a fair bit going for it, so fingers crossed it can get it done, and if not, hope yours do :)




Think Cloudy Dream is worth backing NTO, after seeing it get in a fair bit of bother, and fly home for 2nd.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on April 16, 2016, 06:38:25 PM
Cheers Marky, I got that one well wrong with the third horse being second top weight and the winner fourth. Was looking from the bottom up. 

As wrong as most of the Irish riders did and Paul Nicholls's chips remain delicious. 10/11 each of two going to Sandown.
http://twitter.com/Channel4Racing/status/721361112982097920 (http://twitter.com/Channel4Racing/status/721361112982097920)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 16, 2016, 06:42:46 PM
Backed Highland Lodge after it missed out in the National.

Has a fair bit going for it, so fingers crossed it can get it done, and if not, hope yours do :)




Think Cloudy Dream is worth backing NTO, after seeing it get in a fair bit of bother, and fly home for 2nd.

I think Cloudy Dream may have gone into one or two trackers/notebooks.

Talk about sprouting wings..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 16, 2016, 07:29:08 PM
Backed Highland Lodge after it missed out in the National.

Has a fair bit going for it, so fingers crossed it can get it done, and if not, hope yours do :)




Think Cloudy Dream is worth backing NTO, after seeing it get in a fair bit of bother, and fly home for 2nd.

I think Cloudy Dream may have gone into one or two trackers/notebooks.

Talk about sprouting wings..

Second replaces the first as the best handicapped horse in training. Let's hope it goes unnoticed ;-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on April 22, 2016, 09:16:30 PM
Haydock 1:40 Gunnery

It's not a great price (7/4) as it seems the info is out there about this one. Has a Dante entry, and has been training on extremely well. Spencer rides for Chapple-Hyam. Gosden's newcomers have been performing very well, however, and he has 2 in this race. Lord Napier has a Derby entry, and at 9/2 seems good value but Gosden's first string jockeys are at Leicester... Perhaps the only other danger is Haggas' inmate Daphne, but current prices suggest a lot of money is already down on Gunnery.

I'm on with a small win bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 27, 2016, 11:38:43 PM
An interesting horse having its first outing for Ed Dunlop tomorrow at Chelmsford in the 7.30.

Shingwedzi was running in some of the better class races in SA before coming here, and while I get the quality of racing isn't as good, it's opening Mark could be quite workable if it has improved at all for the move.

9-1 might be worth a little interest.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 28, 2016, 01:02:04 AM
Sticking with the ex olly Stephens angle today

800 Chelmsford shackled and drawn. Won here for Stevens mark similar hedger should improve it. Saved my bacon is very good around here so just a small bet at 5s.

320 English hero. Gone to William knight who has had a few run well this is a typical 3 year old handicap where anything could and probably will improve. At 12s a small bet again

Gd lk all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 28, 2016, 01:07:37 PM
Shackled and drawn now 9/4

English hero 25s! Had a bit more on at that price


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 28, 2016, 01:48:40 PM
Half asleep, as per.

Good luck with them chaps.

Missed the price on first one, but had a bit on Adz's, and your other one.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 28, 2016, 09:03:32 PM
English hero never put into the race don't get me wrong wouldn't have beaten fav stays in tracker for now.

Shackled and drawn ran a corker just beaten by the course specialist.  Take him out now probably won't be a price again for a while


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 28, 2016, 09:58:09 PM
Some day for Chris dwyer superb effort sds is different gear never ever have the slightest doubt whether he is giving 100%


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 28, 2016, 10:01:45 PM
An interesting horse having its first outing for Ed Dunlop tomorrow at Chelmsford in the 7.30.

Shingwedzi was running in some of the better class races in SA before coming here, and while I get the quality of racing isn't as good, it's opening Mark could be quite workable if it has improved at all for the move.

9-1 might be worth a little interest.


Poor. APols


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2016, 03:42:02 PM
If you can take a bit of the 50-1 BFSB on Whitmore for the Kentucky Derby

Also Majesto same race 40-1 Laddies.

Both ew naturally.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on April 29, 2016, 04:16:16 PM
Great article: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/apr/29/ryan-moore-air-force-blue-2000-guineas?CMP=share_btn_tw


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 30, 2016, 01:16:19 AM
Great article: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/apr/29/ryan-moore-air-force-blue-2000-guineas?CMP=share_btn_tw

Cheers for posting that, Brent.

Moore is certainly an interesting character.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on April 30, 2016, 01:22:13 AM
Great article: http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/apr/29/ryan-moore-air-force-blue-2000-guineas?CMP=share_btn_tw

Cheers for posting that, Brent.

Moore is certainly an interesting character.

Great read is all, hadn't meant to post God damn blackberry.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 03, 2016, 11:40:11 PM
A few things have come together and I really like one tomorrow.

Antioco is one I put in the notebook last year that I thought would improve this year stepped up to 12fplus, as he is a Motivator colt. During the winter he appears to have been gelded and moved stables from Botti to Fahey.

So, with tomorrows race being over 12f, and him being now owned by The Good Doctor, who basically wants to win every race at Chester(despite Fahey saying tomorrow is all about learning about the horse) tomorrow looks like he may well be primed to run for his life, and 10-1 looks worth an investment.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 04, 2016, 01:05:50 AM
Cheers mate, and gl us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 04, 2016, 11:46:42 AM
A few things have come together and I really like one tomorrow.

Antioco is one I put in the notebook last year that I thought would improve this year stepped up to 12fplus, as he is a Motivator colt. During the winter he appears to have been gelded and moved stables from Botti to Fahey.

So, with tomorrows race being over 12f, and him being now owned by The Good Doctor, who basically wants to win every race at Chester(despite Fahey saying tomorrow is all about learning about the horse) tomorrow looks like he may well be primed to run for his life, and 10-1 looks worth an investment.

I saw this post last night, & though I almost never bet outside of Fred stuff these days, was strangely tempted to have a small interest, by the tone of your post.

I was working when I saw it, so I sent myself a reminder note - "Adzy's horse, have a bet in the morning".

I just got round to it, & the 10/1 now appears to be 13/2 best.


 http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/chester/17:25/winner






Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 04, 2016, 06:27:54 PM
Keep smashing the value out of it, but they just don't win when I post.

Can only apologise if you followed me in.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on May 04, 2016, 06:50:40 PM
No apology needed!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 04, 2016, 07:17:09 PM
No apology needed! Useless ****


FYP ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on May 04, 2016, 07:19:48 PM
No apology needed!

Absolutely this, your posts are appreciated. I thought it didn't like the track, looked almost immediately unhappy constantly on the turn.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on May 04, 2016, 07:29:09 PM
No apology needed! Useless ****


FYP ;)

We can keep both in if you like!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 04, 2016, 07:31:28 PM
No apology needed! Useless ****


FYP ;)

We can keep both in if you like!

:D

Adz knows better than to apologise, the superstitious fishcake!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 04, 2016, 09:25:52 PM
Always disappointing when they run so bad, and it makes me feel better to apologise. Just a personal thing.

Anyway, it turns out it sustained quite a serious injury, during the race, and if it is seen again, it wont be for a long time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 04, 2016, 09:58:38 PM
Just messing, I know you do :)

Shame about the injury, and hopefully the horse makes a recovery.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Nakor on May 05, 2016, 05:00:43 PM
Frankel - When will we start seeing the fruit of his loins as it were?

Is there particular excitement about anything he has sired so far?

Assume he will continue to Stud until he is no longer capable - what age is that for a horse in general?

Any idea how much it would it cost to "stand" a horse with Frankel?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 05, 2016, 07:56:54 PM
Frankel - When will we start seeing the fruit of his loins as it were?

Is there particular excitement about anything he has sired so far?

Assume he will continue to Stud until he is no longer capable - what age is that for a horse in general?

Any idea how much it would it cost to "stand" a horse with Frankel?

£125k is Frankel's stud fee.

Wonderhorse, to expensive brass :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on May 06, 2016, 11:27:19 AM
Sky Sports MNF host Ed Chamberlin favourite to become racing presenter on ITV http://dailym.ai/1q37NxU


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 06, 2016, 01:19:28 PM
Not unhappy about that, at all.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Cavey007 on May 06, 2016, 03:23:43 PM
Frankel - When will we start seeing the fruit of his loins as it were?

Is there particular excitement about anything he has sired so far?

Assume he will continue to Stud until he is no longer capable - what age is that for a horse in general?

Any idea how much it would it cost to "stand" a horse with Frankel?

£125k is Frankel's stud fee.

Wonderhorse, to expensive brass :D
I
One of his is running today at Chantilly iirc

Finished 8th on debut - Proconsul

Nevermind. I'm talking crap. It was his brother :|


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 08, 2016, 09:06:33 AM
I'm here today:

(http://www.ludlowracecourse.co.uk/index_htm_files/5855.jpg)

There's been racing at Ludlow since 1725. About time I made the trip, really.

150 entries the other day but only 55 running, which is a shame. If anyone fancies anything, I'd be delighted to hear from you.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: MereNovice on May 08, 2016, 09:16:54 AM
I went to school in Ludlow.
My main recollection of the races was that the bus home was diverted when the races were on and we would be late getting home.
Should be banned imo.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 08, 2016, 11:09:20 AM
I'm here today:

(http://www.ludlowracecourse.co.uk/index_htm_files/5855.jpg)

There's been racing at Ludlow since 1725. About time I made the trip, really.

150 entries the other day but only 55 running, which is a shame. If anyone fancies anything, I'd be delighted to hear from you.


Morning mate.

A reliable Irish contact I have told me that Gaelic Myth will win the 3.05 last night when it was 25-1. I missed the big price, and don't really fancy it myself, but fwiw.

I think if Brennan can hold onto Nocha de Reyes longer than he did last time, he probably has enough to win again in the 4.15.

Finally, Cottersrock looks solid in the 4.45, but not much of a price.

Good Luck old chap.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 08, 2016, 11:32:10 AM
I'm here today:

(http://www.ludlowracecourse.co.uk/index_htm_files/5855.jpg)

There's been racing at Ludlow since 1725. About time I made the trip, really.

150 entries the other day but only 55 running, which is a shame. If anyone fancies anything, I'd be delighted to hear from you.


Morning mate.

A reliable Irish contact I have told me that Gaelic Myth will win the 3.05 last night when it was 25-1. I missed the big price, and don't really fancy it myself, but fwiw.

I think if Brennan can hold onto Nocha de Reyes longer than he did last time, he probably has enough to win again in the 4.15.

Finally, Cottersrock looks solid in the 4.45, but not much of a price.

Good Luck old chap.

Fabulous. Thanks. Good luck us.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 08, 2016, 04:08:00 PM
I'm here today:

(http://www.ludlowracecourse.co.uk/index_htm_files/5855.jpg)

There's been racing at Ludlow since 1725. About time I made the trip, really.

150 entries the other day but only 55 running, which is a shame. If anyone fancies anything, I'd be delighted to hear from you.


Morning mate.

A reliable Irish contact I have told me that Gaelic Myth will win the 3.05 last night when it was 25-1. I missed the big price, and don't really fancy it myself, but fwiw.

I think if Brennan can hold onto Nocha de Reyes longer than he did last time, he probably has enough to win again in the 4.15.

Finally, Cottersrock looks solid in the 4.45, but not much of a price.

Good Luck old chap.

Gamble landed. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on May 08, 2016, 04:10:52 PM
I'm here today:

(http://www.ludlowracecourse.co.uk/index_htm_files/5855.jpg)

There's been racing at Ludlow since 1725. About time I made the trip, really.

150 entries the other day but only 55 running, which is a shame. If anyone fancies anything, I'd be delighted to hear from you.

I very nearly went myself today as well Tal for the very first time but the 1/10 poke in the first race put me off alongside how long it takes to get there from mine on the back roads even though it is only 50 miles away.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 08, 2016, 09:57:31 PM
I'm here today:

(http://www.ludlowracecourse.co.uk/index_htm_files/5855.jpg)

There's been racing at Ludlow since 1725. About time I made the trip, really.

150 entries the other day but only 55 running, which is a shame. If anyone fancies anything, I'd be delighted to hear from you.


Morning mate.

A reliable Irish contact I have told me that Gaelic Myth will win the 3.05 last night when it was 25-1. I missed the big price, and don't really fancy it myself, but fwiw.

I think if Brennan can hold onto Nocha de Reyes longer than he did last time, he probably has enough to win again in the 4.15.

Finally, Cottersrock looks solid in the 4.45, but not much of a price.

Good Luck old chap.

Gamble landed. ;)

Lovely day, made all the better by an 11/2 winner. Thank you, muchly.

Arb, you missed a belter: glorious sunshine and bookies with empty satchels.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on May 09, 2016, 09:48:51 AM
Frankel - When will we start seeing the fruit of his loins as it were?

Is there particular excitement about anything he has sired so far?

Assume he will continue to Stud until he is no longer capable - what age is that for a horse in general?

Any idea how much it would it cost to "stand" a horse with Frankel?

£125k is Frankel's stud fee.



Wonderhorse, to expensive brass :D

Queally gets two of the stud fees £250k every January 1st


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Cavey007 on May 10, 2016, 04:53:36 PM
So I was a week early. First Frankel foal runs at Newbury on Friday with a certain Mr. Dettori on board. Cunco. One to look for! It'll probably be harder to avoid hearing how it's done


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 11, 2016, 01:51:16 PM
Liked the way Global Thrill ran at Chelts last time, and think he looks reasonable value in the last at Worcester.

The earlier 12-1 has gone now it looks like staying dry, but plenty of 10s around for those that want to get involved. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on May 11, 2016, 07:36:26 PM
I'm here today:

(http://www.ludlowracecourse.co.uk/index_htm_files/5855.jpg)

There's been racing at Ludlow since 1725. About time I made the trip, really.

150 entries the other day but only 55 running, which is a shame. If anyone fancies anything, I'd be delighted to hear from you.

I very nearly went myself today as well Tal for the very first time but the 1/10 poke in the first race put me off alongside how long it takes to get there from mine on the back roads even though it is only 50 miles away.

I once played golf on the course which intertwines with the racecourse in a pro-am with one of the assistants from my club in Nottingham, quite an interesting golf course to be fair.

On the map it looked like it was just the other side of Brum but I couldn't believe how long it took to get there, especially the bit from Brum to Ludlow which must have been another hour.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on May 11, 2016, 07:41:07 PM
I'm here today:

(http://www.ludlowracecourse.co.uk/index_htm_files/5855.jpg)

There's been racing at Ludlow since 1725. About time I made the trip, really.

150 entries the other day but only 55 running, which is a shame. If anyone fancies anything, I'd be delighted to hear from you.

I very nearly went myself today as well Tal for the very first time but the 1/10 poke in the first race put me off alongside how long it takes to get there from mine on the back roads even though it is only 50 miles away.

I once played golf on the course which intertwines with the racecourse in a pro-am with one of the assistants from my club in Nottingham, quite an interesting golf course to be fair.

On the map it looked like it was just the other side of Brum but I couldn't believe how long it took to get there, especially the bit from Brum to Ludlow which must have been another hour.

And the rest. It's all A-Roads, up hill and down dale.

Lovely journey, mind. Also a terrific course. The top of the stands is a magnificent place to be just before racing starts. You get quite a view.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rod Paradise on May 13, 2016, 09:50:38 AM
Hamilton Races tonight. Anybody got any recommendations? Or do I stick to normal tactics (bung on a placepot & stay in the bar).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on May 13, 2016, 10:25:45 AM
Hamilton Races tonight. Anybody got any recommendations? Or do I stick to normal tactics (bung on a placepot & stay in the bar).

Have PM'ed you mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rod Paradise on May 13, 2016, 10:46:46 AM
 :)up ;thankyou;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on May 13, 2016, 03:11:37 PM
frankel's first runner wins

this was the commentary on one racing service

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiVsjYrWsAA600v.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 13, 2016, 03:26:25 PM
Highly strung like Frankel, wears a crossed noseband like Frankel, lot of talent like Frankel.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on May 13, 2016, 03:29:55 PM
Simon Clare ‏@SiClare now18 seconds ago

Cunco 33/1 for next year's 2000 Guineas with @Coral and 10/1 for the Chesham at Royal @Ascot 2016. That looks a big price to me!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 13, 2016, 03:47:38 PM
Did Johnny Gee mention the Chesham afterwards? If so, take the 10-1 for TfT. Never be that price if he turns up. Gl getting on tho.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BorntoBubble on May 13, 2016, 11:30:19 PM
At Doncaster tomorrow, any pointers!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on May 13, 2016, 11:39:54 PM
At Thirsk tomorrow, help please  :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on May 16, 2016, 11:25:50 PM
Off to Newcastle's first aw meeting tomorrow, I'm a guesser when it comes to horses normally anyway so tomorrow will be especially tough. Help please!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on May 17, 2016, 01:27:38 AM
Off to Newcastle's first aw meeting tomorrow, I'm a guesser when it comes to horses normally anyway so tomorrow will be especially tough. Help please!

4:10 Wall of Fire. Formerly with Hannon, but now with Hugo Palmer, whose string is in good form at the moment, and this unexposed entry is making its handicap debut on its first run for its new stable. There's already been some market support, so now only 9/2 on B365. Last run was in a Listed race, so perhaps a more realistic target today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 17, 2016, 10:35:11 AM
Off to Newcastle's first aw meeting tomorrow, I'm a guesser when it comes to horses normally anyway so tomorrow will be especially tough. Help please!

Don't be surprised to see a pace bias as it's the first meeting on a newly laid surface. If the front-runner wins the first for example, flick it in on front-runners the rest of the way. Especially at the this time of year. Even Lingfield favours fronties when it's warm.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on May 17, 2016, 10:43:59 AM
Off to Newcastle's first aw meeting tomorrow, I'm a guesser when it comes to horses normally anyway so tomorrow will be especially tough. Help please!

4:10 Wall of Fire. Formerly with Hannon, but now with Hugo Palmer, whose string is in good form at the moment, and this unexposed entry is making its handicap debut on its first run for its new stable. There's already been some market support, so now only 9/2 on B365. Last run was in a Listed race, so perhaps a more realistic target today.


cheers, will give it a go


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on May 17, 2016, 10:46:14 AM
Off to Newcastle's first aw meeting tomorrow, I'm a guesser when it comes to horses normally anyway so tomorrow will be especially tough. Help please!

Don't be surprised to see a pace bias as it's the first meeting on a newly laid surface. If the front-runner wins the first for example, flick it in on front-runners the rest of the way. Especially at the this time of year. Even Lingfield favours fronties when it's warm.

warm, at gosforth park ...  rotflmfao

sweet, I'll look out for that as a possible angle as the card develops, cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on May 17, 2016, 10:53:28 AM
Hamilton Races tonight. Anybody got any recommendations? Or do I stick to normal tactics (bung on a placepot & stay in the bar).

Lookfor genuine fast ground horses.   With the recent bout of sun we have had in these parts Hamilton dry's out very quickly.  That is what I have been told before by those that profess to know horse racing. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 17, 2016, 02:58:28 PM
Only one race in but Newcastle looks a nice track. Big galloping look to it and seems fair based on first race. I suspect they will need to stay every yard of the trip there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on May 21, 2016, 01:38:41 PM
Been told 3:05 hay Garcia
Thoughts


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: stumpythefish on May 21, 2016, 02:46:42 PM
Been told 3:05 hay Garcia
Thoughts

Plz move to golf section😄


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on May 21, 2016, 03:13:46 PM
Only one race in but Newcastle looks a nice track. Big galloping look to it and seems fair based on first race. I suspect they will need to stay every yard of the trip there.

Not if they dont remeasure the course...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on May 21, 2016, 04:01:59 PM
Been told 3:05 hay Garcia
Thoughts

Plz move to golf section😄

Easy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on May 21, 2016, 04:03:44 PM

Thanks!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: stumpythefish on May 21, 2016, 04:05:50 PM

A tap in Wp big boy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rod Paradise on May 23, 2016, 10:38:02 AM
Tip on a football forum, can't vouch for the poster so DYOR

Quote
GWORN 4.45 ayr

From the trainer, says they have targeted this race & after 2 moderate runs this season, its back down to a winning handicap mark & the softish ground will suit.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on May 23, 2016, 11:49:33 AM
Been told 3:05 hay Garcia
Thoughts

Plz move to golf section😄

won the golf as well  rotflmfao


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: stumpythefish on May 23, 2016, 12:22:13 PM
Been told 3:05 hay Garcia
Thoughts

Plz move to golf section😄

won the golf as well  rotflmfao

nice double shame I wasn't on ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rod Paradise on May 23, 2016, 07:28:26 PM
Tip on a football forum, can't vouch for the poster so DYOR

Quote
GWORN 4.45 ayr

From the trainer, says they have targeted this race & after 2 moderate runs this season, its back down to a winning handicap mark & the softish ground will suit.

Hope no-one backed that donkey that came last  ;marks;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: treefella on May 26, 2016, 01:06:39 PM
Rarely post in this thread as it usually gives them the kiss of death ! However today i feel so strongly about this one its a must share post : 0
Off to Sandown tonight to watch this one hack up hopefully.
Last race henry candys - Postbag currently around 10- 12/1

Ok so we are taking fitness on trust but this trainer usually can get the nicer types ready first time up. Our maiden win was after a break and reads very well indeed. Journey went on to run well in several group & listed races and is now rated some 30 pounds higher than our mark today. Surely we are well handicapped and relatively unexposed compared to most of the field tonight. Ok the last run on most likely unsuitable going toward the back end of last season wasnt so great but the horse wasnt given a hard time and i can forgive one bad run on bad ground with a big weight.
Trainers only runner today along with the jockeys only mount too and he drives down from riding at haydock this afternoon. 

Good luck to those that have the faith and lump on  !   :)

a http://www.racingpost.com/horses/result_home.sd?race_id=621238&r_date=2015-04-10&popup=yes#results_top_tabs=re_&results_bottom_tabs=ANALYSIS


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 03, 2016, 09:48:28 PM
Just cant believe the 6-1 on sky for US Army Ranger, 5 places.

Has been talked of as their Derby horse for so long. Prob wasnt totally prepped for the trial at Chester, but still won. Its unbeaten, Ryan has chosen it. Bred for the trip etc etc.

I am still ringing round getting money on, with who I can.

Could be rather worse off tomorrow but feels like you just have to.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 06, 2016, 09:31:34 AM
As work begins on trying to find some early Ascot value, I quite like the price on Balty Boys in the Hunt Cup.

4th in the race last year, well clear of the rest on the wrong side, he is now 3lbs lower. He spends a lot of time at Ascot and I suspect this will have been the plan for quite some time. He is a tidy 12lbs better of with GM Hopkins(last years winner) for a couple of lengths.

There is some 33-1 in two spots with Koral and 8ate8 which wont be around on the day. Looks enough to start the portfolio off with.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 06, 2016, 03:06:29 PM
Wiiiiiiii, ATR got some new graphics.

Unfortunately, the pictures are still about an hour behind live, so the channel remains useless.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 06, 2016, 10:47:55 PM
As work begins on trying to find some early Ascot value, I quite like the price on Balty Boys in the Hunt Cup.

4th in the race last year, well clear of the rest on the wrong side, he is now 3lbs lower. He spends a lot of time at Ascot and I suspect this will have been the plan for quite some time. He is a tidy 12lbs better of with GM Hopkins(last years winner) for a couple of lengths.

There is some 33-1 in two spots with Koral and 8ate8 which wont be around on the day. Looks enough to start the portfolio off with.


Price crash as Ben Linfoot reads the Racing Thread each morning... ;whistle;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 07, 2016, 03:46:42 PM
As work begins on trying to find some early Ascot value, I quite like the price on Balty Boys in the Hunt Cup.

4th in the race last year, well clear of the rest on the wrong side, he is now 3lbs lower. He spends a lot of time at Ascot and I suspect this will have been the plan for quite some time. He is a tidy 12lbs better of with GM Hopkins(last years winner) for a couple of lengths.

There is some 33-1 in two spots with Koral and 8ate8 which wont be around on the day. Looks enough to start the portfolio off with.


Price crash as Ben Linfoot reads the Racing Thread each morning... ;whistle;

Haha, did he put this up somewhere?

See Any Currency might get disqualified from the cross country.

Will Josies Orders backers get weighed in, or just ul?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on June 07, 2016, 08:31:54 PM
As work begins on trying to find some early Ascot value, I quite like the price on Balty Boys in the Hunt Cup.

4th in the race last year, well clear of the rest on the wrong side, he is now 3lbs lower. He spends a lot of time at Ascot and I suspect this will have been the plan for quite some time. He is a tidy 12lbs better of with GM Hopkins(last years winner) for a couple of lengths.

There is some 33-1 in two spots with Koral and 8ate8 which wont be around on the day. Looks enough to start the portfolio off with.


Price crash as Ben Linfoot reads the Racing Thread each morning... ;whistle;

Haha, did he put this up somewhere?

See Any Currency might get disqualified from the cross country.

Will Josies Orders backers get weighed in, or just ul?

Think most bookies will ignore, too late.

Why are they doing drugs test and posting headlines 3 months later, criminal for punters if its reversed now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 07, 2016, 08:37:44 PM
As work begins on trying to find some early Ascot value, I quite like the price on Balty Boys in the Hunt Cup.

4th in the race last year, well clear of the rest on the wrong side, he is now 3lbs lower. He spends a lot of time at Ascot and I suspect this will have been the plan for quite some time. He is a tidy 12lbs better of with GM Hopkins(last years winner) for a couple of lengths.

There is some 33-1 in two spots with Koral and 8ate8 which wont be around on the day. Looks enough to start the portfolio off with.


Price crash as Ben Linfoot reads the Racing Thread each morning... ;whistle;

Haha, did he put this up somewhere?

See Any Currency might get disqualified from the cross country.

Will Josies Orders backers get weighed in, or just ul?

Think most bookies will ignore, too late.

Why are they doing drugs test and posting headlines 3 months later, criminal for punters if its reversed now.

Yeah, it surely doesn't take 3 months to get test results.

Very strange.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on June 07, 2016, 08:48:02 PM
As work begins on trying to find some early Ascot value, I quite like the price on Balty Boys in the Hunt Cup.

4th in the race last year, well clear of the rest on the wrong side, he is now 3lbs lower. He spends a lot of time at Ascot and I suspect this will have been the plan for quite some time. He is a tidy 12lbs better of with GM Hopkins(last years winner) for a couple of lengths.

There is some 33-1 in two spots with Koral and 8ate8 which wont be around on the day. Looks enough to start the portfolio off with.


Price crash as Ben Linfoot reads the Racing Thread each morning... ;whistle;

Haha, did he put this up somewhere?

See Any Currency might get disqualified from the cross country.

Will Josies Orders backers get weighed in, or just ul?

Think most bookies will ignore, too late.

Why are they doing drugs test and posting headlines 3 months later, criminal for punters if its reversed now.

Yeah, it surely doesn't take 3 months to get test results.

Very strange.

Id rather they not bother if they are going to bring it too late to enforce a rule punters can benefit from.


Think Varsoian is back on a winning mark in the 20-30 at kempton tomorrow, and think rosalee is back to her level at 9-00, would rather it was 5f  but they must have thought a bit of her last season and she looks like she has better in her. 16s both but bigger prices tomorrow


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 07, 2016, 08:57:05 PM
Just deal with it UTR, and move on.

I'm in post jumps depression, but will have a bit on those, cheers.

That said, Ascot should help move next week along quickly, anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on June 07, 2016, 09:09:40 PM
David O'Meara had his July Goodwood winner So Beloved disqualified in December http://www.britishhorseracing.com/disciplinary_notices/results-of-enquiries-easydoesit-m-botti-d-omeara-r-m-smith-g-mahon-and-an-appeal-t-scudamore-heard-by-the-disciplinary-panel-on-thursday-17-december/ (http://www.britishhorseracing.com/disciplinary_notices/results-of-enquiries-easydoesit-m-botti-d-omeara-r-m-smith-g-mahon-and-an-appeal-t-scudamore-heard-by-the-disciplinary-panel-on-thursday-17-december/)

Hugo Palmer had his July Curragh winner Home of the Brave disqualified in January http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/home-of-the-brave-stripped-of-curragh-group-3-success/2013740/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/home-of-the-brave-stripped-of-curragh-group-3-success/2013740/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews)

Both of these were for the presence of banned substances. I guess it takes time to prepare a case that will stand up to legal scrutiny/appeals. And even then... cf. Jim Best.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on June 07, 2016, 11:12:17 PM
David O'Meara had his July Goodwood winner So Beloved disqualified in December http://www.britishhorseracing.com/disciplinary_notices/results-of-enquiries-easydoesit-m-botti-d-omeara-r-m-smith-g-mahon-and-an-appeal-t-scudamore-heard-by-the-disciplinary-panel-on-thursday-17-december/ (http://www.britishhorseracing.com/disciplinary_notices/results-of-enquiries-easydoesit-m-botti-d-omeara-r-m-smith-g-mahon-and-an-appeal-t-scudamore-heard-by-the-disciplinary-panel-on-thursday-17-december/)

Hugo Palmer had his July Curragh winner Home of the Brave disqualified in January http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/home-of-the-brave-stripped-of-curragh-group-3-success/2013740/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews (http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/home-of-the-brave-stripped-of-curragh-group-3-success/2013740/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews)

Both of these were for the presence of banned substances. I guess it takes time to prepare a case that will stand up to legal scrutiny/appeals. And even then... cf. Jim Best.

Or they like to break the story when noone cares anymore so theres less scandal.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: MANTIS01 on June 10, 2016, 03:32:36 PM
Anything for Sandown tomorrow boys...?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 11, 2016, 11:04:08 AM
Cant claim it to be a strong fancy, but I think Brorocco should run better than its 28-1 price in the 2.10. GL and have fun.

At York I love the Fav of Guestys in the 3.35. Rain has come and looks like it will improve again over 6f. However, as its short and the favs have a poor record, I looked further down the list and thought at the weights, the irish raider Taexali had a squeak at 33-1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 11, 2016, 03:08:37 PM
Cant claim it to be a strong fancy, but I think Brorocco should run better than its 28-1 price in the 2.10. GL and have fun.

At York I love the Fav of Guestys in the 3.35. Rain has come and looks like it will improve again over 6f. However, as its short and the favs have a poor record, I looked further down the list and thought at the weights, the irish raider Taexali had a squeak at 33-1.


As usual these days on here. Brorocco 4th after looking dangerous a furlong out....... ;sleep;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 11, 2016, 05:15:53 PM
Cant claim it to be a strong fancy, but I think Brorocco should run better than its 28-1 price in the 2.10. GL and have fun.

At York I love the Fav of Guestys in the 3.35. Rain has come and looks like it will improve again over 6f. However, as its short and the favs have a poor record, I looked further down the list and thought at the weights, the irish raider Taexali had a squeak at 33-1.


As usual these days on here. Brorocco 4th after looking dangerous a furlong out....... ;sleep;

Unlucky mate, keep them coming!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2016, 07:33:27 PM
If you can take the 6-1 with Paddy on Exotic Guest 3.00 Car.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 12, 2016, 08:25:52 PM
If you can take the 6-1 with Paddy on Exotic Guest 3.00 Car.

They let me have £9.18 of it, lol.

Cheers :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: alanc on June 12, 2016, 09:49:19 PM
If you can take the 6-1 with Paddy on Exotic Guest 3.00 Car.

Now 4/1 on Paddy's.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on June 12, 2016, 11:50:02 PM
Off to Carlisle tomorrow. Anyone good any fancies before I sharpen my pin?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 13, 2016, 04:00:47 PM
If you can take the 6-1 with Paddy on Exotic Guest 3.00 Car.

Now 4/1 on Paddy's.




Cursed at the moment. 2nd, went off at 10/3. Not quite sure why when you are drawn out wide you then tack all the way across, just to then tack all the way back, but who am I to judge?

Ho Hum. Lets save the run good for RA.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 15, 2016, 02:15:16 AM
As work begins on trying to find some early Ascot value, I quite like the price on Balty Boys in the Hunt Cup.

4th in the race last year, well clear of the rest on the wrong side, he is now 3lbs lower. He spends a lot of time at Ascot and I suspect this will have been the plan for quite some time. He is a tidy 12lbs better of with GM Hopkins(last years winner) for a couple of lengths.

There is some 33-1 in two spots with Koral and 8ate8 which wont be around on the day. Looks enough to start the portfolio off with.


Certainly got there before everyone else and now into 14s generally. Once again, massively on the right side of things.

Need a change of luck, or could be my last bokked suggestion here for a while.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 15, 2016, 02:59:03 AM
As work begins on trying to find some early Ascot value, I quite like the price on Balty Boys in the Hunt Cup.

4th in the race last year, well clear of the rest on the wrong side, he is now 3lbs lower. He spends a lot of time at Ascot and I suspect this will have been the plan for quite some time. He is a tidy 12lbs better of with GM Hopkins(last years winner) for a couple of lengths.

There is some 33-1 in two spots with Koral and 8ate8 which wont be around on the day. Looks enough to start the portfolio off with.


Certainly got there before everyone else and now into 14s generally. Once again, massively on the right side of things.

Need a change of luck, or could be my last bokked suggestion here for a while.

Don't forget to polish your tinfoil hat up real nice before racing tomorrow ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on June 15, 2016, 07:32:33 PM
Britannia Handicap 17:00 tomorrow.

Impossible obviously but the Irish firm are going 1/4 first six for those who can (or who like betting £4.77 ew). 1/4 first five generally.

Fighting Temeraire is 14/1 with PP, 16/1 with Stoke and bfsb for five places. This for a horse that ran the 10s jolly Out and About to a length second last time out giving it a pound and with a hampered run. Dean Ivory in form (Labrisa Breeze just touched off today). Consistent horse and unexposed - only six runs, never out the frame. Third in a Newbury maiden on soft ground. Only negatives: drawn 24 and first time over a mile. Hold-up horse so will need to get a run but 16/1 is just plain wrong.

IMO.

I love these races so would love to hear the case for some others.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on June 16, 2016, 01:51:23 PM
Ascot 2.30 Global Applause has rock solid form, and this big horse could well improve again, the ground is an unknown but apparently 'family' have done ok on it. Not a fan of Frankie but he loves Ascot and is riding well. 5/2 Looks to be very fair, any views?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on June 16, 2016, 07:25:01 PM
Britannia Handicap 17:00 tomorrow.

Impossible obviously but the Irish firm are going 1/4 first six for those who can (or who like betting £4.77 ew). 1/4 first five generally.

Fighting Temeraire is 14/1 with PP, 16/1 with Stoke and bfsb for five places. This for a horse that ran the 10s jolly Out and About to a length second last time out giving it a pound and with a hampered run. Dean Ivory in form (Labrisa Breeze just touched off today). Consistent horse and unexposed - only six runs, never out the frame. Third in a Newbury maiden on soft ground. Only negatives: drawn 24 and first time over a mile. Hold-up horse so will need to get a run but 16/1 is just plain wrong.

IMO.

I love these races so would love to hear the case for some others.
Didn't shorten. Bit free early then nothing off the bridle. Back to 7f next time, I suspect. Disappointing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on June 26, 2016, 02:18:17 PM
Had to throw a few darts e/w at the Summer Cup at Uttoxeter today:
Shuil Royale @  9/1
Solstice Son @  16/1
Al Co @  17/2
Ballykan @ 20/1
On The Bridge @ 50/1



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: HutchGF on July 01, 2016, 06:39:39 PM
Going to Haydock tomorrow. I am a complete mug punter with the horses so would greatly appreciate any and all advice.

I'll probably ignore it and knock it in after a few beers but I live in hope of not completely ironing myself out for once at the races!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on July 01, 2016, 11:08:38 PM
Going to Haydock tomorrow. I am a complete mug punter with the horses so would greatly appreciate any and all advice.

I'll probably ignore it and knock it in after a few beers but I live in hope of not completely ironing myself out for once at the races!

2:15 Furia Cruzada 5/1
John Gosdens charge ran a good 2nd last time out, and should find the extra distance no problem. At 5/1 or higher I'd back it each way to avoid being ironed out. If you're in an all or nothing mood, it's a win only of course!

If any of Karl Burke or Mick Easterby's are being backed, have a speculative punt on them - both stables like a gamble.

Good Luck!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: HutchGF on July 01, 2016, 11:44:35 PM
Going to Haydock tomorrow. I am a complete mug punter with the horses so would greatly appreciate any and all advice.

I'll probably ignore it and knock it in after a few beers but I live in hope of not completely ironing myself out for once at the races!

2:15 Furia Cruzada 5/1
John Gosdens charge ran a good 2nd last time out, and should find the extra distance no problem. At 5/1 or higher I'd back it each way to avoid being ironed out. If you're in an all or nothing mood, it's a win only of course!

If any of Karl Burke or Mick Easterby's are being backed, have a speculative punt on them - both stables like a gamble.

Good Luck!

Thanks mate, much appreciated. I'll certainly have a little punt on it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 03, 2016, 12:00:51 PM
Thought in form Ger Lyons runners today might be worth a second look..

14:30 3rd Jul 16   Naas   6f      Rock In Peace (IRE)   G F Carroll    16/1
14:30 3rd Jul 16   Naas   6f      Doctor Geoff (IRE)   C T Keane    15/2
16:40 3rd Jul 16   Naas   1m      Tony The Gent (IRE)   C T Keane    7/2
17:45 3rd Jul 16   Naas   1m 4f      Scealtana (IRE)   C T Keane    9/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 03, 2016, 08:43:41 PM
Thought in form Ger Lyons runners today might be worth a second look..

14:30 3rd Jul 16   Naas   6f      Rock In Peace (IRE)   G F Carroll    16/1
14:30 3rd Jul 16   Naas   6f      Doctor Geoff (IRE)   C T Keane    15/2
16:40 3rd Jul 16   Naas   1m      Tony The Gent (IRE)   C T Keane    7/2
17:45 3rd Jul 16   Naas   1m 4f      Scealtana (IRE)   C T Keane    9/2

Continuing to run well and well backed, but 2 seconds including by a short head was as good as it got.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on July 12, 2016, 12:05:23 PM
really?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnHFW4YW8AAnlOL.jpg)


Title: York evening meeting and Kaiser Chiefs tomorrow
Post by: RedFox on July 21, 2016, 04:43:57 PM
Me and my good lady were planning a weekend away and York are having an evening meeting followed by the Kaiser Chiefs tomorrow.

Im sure it will be a busy night and just wondering if any blondes have been to one of these and apart from the racing any views on what kind of set up they have for bands.

Any tips and fancies also appreciated.

Cheers


Title: Re: York evening meeting and Kaiser Chiefs tomorrow
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 21, 2016, 05:28:14 PM
Me and my good lady were planning a weekend away and York are having an evening meeting followed by the Kaiser Chiefs tomorrow.

Im sure it will be a busy night and just wondering if any blondes have been to one of these and apart from the racing any views on what kind of set up they have for bands.

Any tips and fancies also appreciated.

Cheers

Need to be in County, Grandstand or Paddock for best view of the stage, view and sound will be ok but a little limited from the cheap side. It's usually a very busy weekend but Friday will be heaving with the Kaiser Chiefs being a relatively local band and quite a draw for the casual music fan.

If you're wanting transport back to the city centre afterwards you're gonna be much better off booking it well in advance as the queue for taxis will take forever (unless you leave a little early). Think KC are due to play until 10.30....enjoy! And just yell if you want any other York based pointers.

I'll be on the cheap side, and also interested in any tips anyone might have :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on July 21, 2016, 08:32:03 PM
Stay in the Grand hotel round the corner from the station (nap).  Pricey but worth every penny.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 21, 2016, 08:56:36 PM
Stay in the Grand hotel round the corner from the station (nap).  Pricey but worth every penny.

Pricey?! It's expensive enough on a normal night so can't begin to imagine how much they'll charge for the weekend of York races!

It is a very nice gaff though if you don't have any affinity with money, very well located too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on July 21, 2016, 10:27:39 PM
Thanks guys but looking likely to go for just Friday and drive home after the gig as the accommodation is pretty booked up and whats left is extortionate.

The idea only arose cos Im driving down from Edinburgh tomorrow and my good lady was going to train up and meet.

York's just too busy to try and arrange last minute accommodation without paying a very hefty premium.

Cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on July 21, 2016, 10:32:41 PM
Thanks guys but looking likely to go for just Friday and drive home after the gig as the accommodation is pretty booked up and whats left is extortionate.

The idea only arose cos Im driving down from Edinburgh tomorrow and my good lady was going to train up and meet.

York's just too busy to try and arrange last minute accommodation without paying a very hefty premium.

Cheers

Enjoy best race course in the North by a mile.  Best value champagne at a race course as well served in proper glasses as well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 21, 2016, 10:38:47 PM
Thanks guys but looking likely to go for just Friday and drive home after the gig as the accommodation is pretty booked up and whats left is extortionate.

The idea only arose cos Im driving down from Edinburgh tomorrow and my good lady was going to train up and meet.

York's just too busy to try and arrange last minute accommodation without paying a very hefty premium.

Cheers

Yeah had a mate looking at a late decision to travel up and stay Friday night, but wasn't much left, and what was left was very expensive for what it is IE Travelodge for £200 for a single night etc.

We can't get champagne on the cheap side Arb ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on July 21, 2016, 10:41:55 PM
Thanks guys but looking likely to go for just Friday and drive home after the gig as the accommodation is pretty booked up and whats left is extortionate.

The idea only arose cos Im driving down from Edinburgh tomorrow and my good lady was going to train up and meet.

York's just too busy to try and arrange last minute accommodation without paying a very hefty premium.

Cheers

Yeah had a mate looking at a late decision to travel up and stay Friday night, but wasn't much left, and what was left was very expensive for what it is IE Travelodge for £200 for a single night etc.

We can't get champagne on the cheap side Arb ;)

Penthouse at Grand still available on Friday for £500.  Much better value than a travelodge for a bottle!  Master suite available on Saturday for £463.  Decent value for the weekend! :D

http://ag.avvio.com/convert/site/The%20Grand%20Hotel%20and%20Spa/en/results.php?checkin=2016-07-22&nights=2&currency=GBP&_ga=1.230071260.1950833967.1469133799


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 21, 2016, 10:47:28 PM
Thanks guys but looking likely to go for just Friday and drive home after the gig as the accommodation is pretty booked up and whats left is extortionate.

The idea only arose cos Im driving down from Edinburgh tomorrow and my good lady was going to train up and meet.

York's just too busy to try and arrange last minute accommodation without paying a very hefty premium.

Cheers

Yeah had a mate looking at a late decision to travel up and stay Friday night, but wasn't much left, and what was left was very expensive for what it is IE Travelodge for £200 for a single night etc.

We can't get champagne on the cheap side Arb ;)

Penthouse at Grand still available on Friday for £500.  Much better value than a travelodge for a bottle!  Master suite available on Saturday for £463.  Decent value for the weekend! :D

http://ag.avvio.com/convert/site/The%20Grand%20Hotel%20and%20Spa/en/results.php?checkin=2016-07-22&nights=2&currency=GBP&_ga=1.230071260.1950833967.1469133799

Giving it away ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RedFox on July 21, 2016, 11:05:57 PM
Not a room to be had for less than £200 a night and no sign of the Grand penthouse in my searches Arbs.

Looking like its a swerve now and Ill just plan ahead for the Juddmonte and book now :-)

Have a good night there H.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 21, 2016, 11:35:11 PM
Whozthecat 25-1 in the 6.30. Hardly in form but against some similar old dodgepots. However well in on some old form.

Hit the heights 8.00 pissed up in this last year and judging by its prep so far this season and the fact the 14s from earlier long gone would suggest he will be trying again tomorrow.

Good luck.

Nb. I couldn't tip a chair on here this year, so buyer beware.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on July 22, 2016, 12:46:14 PM
The amazing ladies day hits Newcastle again tomorrow
Need winning horses please! Thanks!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on July 22, 2016, 01:39:26 PM
York 7:00 Used to Be @ 6/1 (366)

I follow Karl Burke's string, and here he's placed one against a very short-priced unraced Fav from Hugo Palmer. The selection showed considerable improvement on its debut when finishing strongly for 2nd at Donny. Dougie Costello is the usual stable jock, and this one should be backed esp if it shortens in price. Atm it's an E/W price, but I'd be happy to back it win only.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 22, 2016, 01:39:43 PM
Whozthecat 25-1 in the 6.30. Hardly in form but against some similar old dodgepots. However well in on some old form.

Hit the heights 8.00 pissed up in this last year and judging by its prep so far this season and the fact the 14s from earlier long gone would suggest he will be trying again tomorrow.

Good luck.

Nb. I couldn't tip a chair on here this year, so buyer beware.

Hit the Heights is in the 18:30 as well, Adz.

Good luck us ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 22, 2016, 01:42:47 PM
Whozthecat 25-1 in the 6.30. Hardly in form but against some similar old dodgepots. However well in on some old form.

Hit the heights 8.00 pissed up in this last year and judging by its prep so far this season and the fact the 14s from earlier long gone would suggest he will be trying again tomorrow.

Good luck.

Nb. I couldn't tip a chair on here this year, so buyer beware.

Hit the Heights is in the 18:30 as well, Adz.

Good luck us ;)


Sorry bud, I meant, Hes no Saint in the 8.00. but its a noner anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 23, 2016, 12:12:31 PM
Thanks gents. Good night. Didn't win a bean but its all gravy.

Sad to be missing The Corrs today ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on July 23, 2016, 12:16:04 PM
What do you think these bands get for these nights?  Someone told me an incredible figure The Human League were reported to get for their gig at Uttox the other week after racing.  I imagine the bands at much bigger tracks like York are getting even more.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 23, 2016, 12:54:42 PM
What do you think these bands get for these nights?  Someone told me an incredible figure The Human League were reported to get for their gig at Uttox the other week after racing.  I imagine the bands at much bigger tracks like York are getting even more.

We were discussing this last night. Hard to put a figure on I think. Will they get X up front plus a cut of ticket sales? If you saw Kaiser Chiefs on tour you're looking at £30 a ticket....

I think we settled on £50k but this could be way too much or far too little, really don't know!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on July 23, 2016, 12:56:49 PM
What do you think these bands get for these nights?  Someone told me an incredible figure The Human League were reported to get for their gig at Uttox the other week after racing.  I imagine the bands at much bigger tracks like York are getting even more.

We were discussing this last night. Hard to put a figure on I think. Will they get X up front plus a cut of ticket sales? If you saw Kaiser Chiefs on tour you're looking at £30 a ticket....

I think we settled on £50k but this could be way too much or far too little, really don't know!

Would go quite a bit higher.  Maybe £200,000.  They are putting 10k people on the gate? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 23, 2016, 01:09:59 PM
Wonder what the difference in £££ is between the Friday night act and Saturday afternoon one?

Kaiser Chiefs much bigger draw than The Corrs IMO, obv still relevant in music terms and got a new album on the way. A good act for casual music fans as they have a decent back catalogue that most people will know of at least a few hits.

No idea when the Corrs last released anything new? Surprised to read they have shifted 30m albums though!

Arb, what was the figure you were quoted for Human League?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on July 23, 2016, 05:41:49 PM
A client of mine has a share in one running tomorrow night at Saratoga in the 10:40.  The horse is called Sympathy, he gave me a lot of background on it it before, I think it was considered quite a classy filly and big things were expected but she got injured or something and was then sent to America.  Chad Brown has apparently done very well with her getting her back to peak fitness. 

The same fella has given me this horse before and 3 other winner from 4 selections so I can't see it being a bad bet. 



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on July 23, 2016, 08:39:27 PM
Uttox sold out at 10,000 tickets at £35 i think it was.  For a Saturday evening summer meeting they would probably do 4-5k tickets at £25 normally i would imagine just to give it some context to the size of York.  Kaisers are in a diff league pulling power wise in 2016 to the Human League and that is reflected in the size of the course they attend.  I think Doobs is right around the mark. I would have said £200-250k for them last night.  I was told big five figures for THL at Uttox.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: hhyftrftdr on July 24, 2016, 11:40:11 AM
Uttox sold out at 10,000 tickets at £35 i think it was.  For a Saturday evening summer meeting they would probably do 4-5k tickets at £25 normally i would imagine just to give it some context to the size of York.  Kaisers are in a diff league pulling power wise in 2016 to the Human League and that is reflected in the size of the course they attend.  I think Doobs is right around the mark. I would have said £200-250k for them last night.  I was told big five figures for THL at Uttox.

I think you might be right, judging how pissed Ricky Wilson was yesterday when he joined Shed Seven on stage for their cover of I Predict A Riot.

I'd have been nailing the champers all day if my band had just been paid a quarter milly ball to play to some races drunks for 90 mins the previous night :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 24, 2016, 11:48:16 AM
Fair Eva a special filly, more like Frankel than Frankel ever was. 5-1 for the Guineas looks decent to me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 24, 2016, 12:26:35 PM
Fair Eva a special filly, more like Frankel than Frankel ever was. 5-1 for the Guineas looks decent to me.

Yeah, that was a breathtaking performance.

Listen will have a few up his sleeve, no doubt. They'll need to be special, if she stays well, and trains on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 24, 2016, 12:35:24 PM
'Training on' is a phrase that's rather gone out of fashion. Used to hear it all the time. High Estate was a classic example back in the day. It just doesn't seem to be a thing any more. Air Force One would be an obvious case this season.

Frankel seems to be passing on all his traits to his offspring. Keen-going, all at least good, and Fair Eva a potential superstar. Charlton just needs to keep a lid on her and find someone who's not going to ride her in the Guineas like Queally rode her old man. That lolride would have ruined some horses.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 24, 2016, 05:33:15 PM
I'm too new in the game to know any better, regarding them 'training on', but AFB was the first one that sprang to mind, obv.

I had a pony freebet that I used at 9/1 right after the race, which will hopefully give me a sweat.

They said she almost broke the course 2yo course record, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on July 24, 2016, 05:42:42 PM
Arazi, Celtic Swing absolute monsters at 2.  Sure they both won at 3, but never reached the heights.  Think Celtic Swing might even have won the French Derby, but it was a bit meh then.  Memory fail again, but on the phone and can't be starting again after fact checking.

Sure O'Brien has had another fairly recently that never trained on after becoming highest rated at 2, and what was that horse they just retired when it was 2.  Ridiculous.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on July 24, 2016, 05:52:57 PM
Arazi, Celtic Swing absolute monsters at 2.  Sure they both won at 3, but never reached the heights.  Think Celtic Swing might even have won the French Derby, but it was a bit meh then.  Memory fail again, but on the phone and can't be starting again after fact checking.

Sure O'Brien has had another fairly recently that never trained on after becoming highest rated at 2, and what was that horse they just retired when it was 2.  Ridiculous.

Holy Roman Emporer was the one that retired at 2.  Sure I was thinking of One Cool Cat as the next big thing in its time.  Won some crappy sprint at 3 and retired. 



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 24, 2016, 07:09:06 PM
Celtic Swing did indeed win the French Derby and Peter 'Jimmy' Saville got a lot of stick for it. That's where 'Sad, Mad, Bad' came from. Was the Racing Post headline after they decided to duck Epsom and head to Chantilly.

'Jimmy' later called one of his horses Sad Mad Bad. He also had Jimmy The Skunk named after him but that's another story.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on July 24, 2016, 09:48:48 PM
Arazi, Celtic Swing absolute monsters at 2.  Sure they both won at 3, but never reached the heights.  Think Celtic Swing might even have won the French Derby, but it was a bit meh then.  Memory fail again, but on the phone and can't be starting again after fact checking.

Sure O'Brien has had another fairly recently that never trained on after becoming highest rated at 2, and what was that horse they just retired when it was 2.  Ridiculous.

arazi had an op that probably ruined it, didnt need to train on?

Think theres a fair few lately been ruined by attempts to make them stay a mile when they are all pace, tiggy wiggy, AFB, buratino. They appear to blunt their pace for me as they dont even need to get much better if theyd just stuck to sprinting, then cant win sprints thereafter.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on July 24, 2016, 10:08:07 PM
'Training on' is a phrase that's rather gone out of fashion. Used to hear it all the time. High Estate was a classic example back in the day. It just doesn't seem to be a thing any more. Air Force One would be an obvious case this season.

Frankel seems to be passing on all his traits to his offspring. Keen-going, all at least good, and Fair Eva a potential superstar. Charlton just needs to keep a lid on her and find someone who's not going to ride her in the Guineas like Queally rode her old man. That lolride would have ruined some horses.

Dilum is the one which stays in my mind.

As a two year old he looked twice the size of his opponents.

Check out the youtube video of his Coventry Stakes win, beating Dr Devious who went on to win the follow years Derby.

They caught up with him physically and he was a shadow of the horse he looked.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on July 24, 2016, 11:41:07 PM
Arazi, Celtic Swing absolute monsters at 2.  Sure they both won at 3, but never reached the heights.  Think Celtic Swing might even have won the French Derby, but it was a bit meh then.  Memory fail again, but on the phone and can't be starting again after fact checking.

Sure O'Brien has had another fairly recently that never trained on after becoming highest rated at 2, and what was that horse they just retired when it was 2.  Ridiculous.
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If I recal correctlyl, Holy Roman Emperor was retired when George Washington was found to be firing blanks, as a replacement for breeders who'd planned to use GW


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 25, 2016, 10:39:20 AM
Fair Eva a special filly, more like Frankel than Frankel ever was. 5-1 for the Guineas looks decent to me.

4Ksuited recently offered Fred a £25 Free Bet, after he came 2nd in the Wimbledon Tennis Celebration Comp.

There's not been much interest other than, iirc, lolzzStoke to win the EPL at a zillion to one.

He has now suggested we might consider sticking it on Fair Eva for next year's Guineas. 

The only snag is the 5/1 has all gone, 4/1 most Firms, though there is a bit of 9/2 left with the beleaguered Wm Hill.

Any views?


http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/1000-guineas/winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 25, 2016, 11:26:00 AM
Dave Nevison made a good point yesterday about ante-post racing.

Most years they used to go into the winter 5-1+ the field, but it never happens now. If Listen has the top-rated 2yo you know it'll be shorter than that.

If Fair Eva wins the Lowther, and she will if she runs, she could easily go below 2-1. In that case 4-1 would look decent, but on the flip side we'll be backing a filly who's run twice, and is yet to go in a Group 1, for a Classic that's ten months away.

How about a nice Luton-based flick? Jack Marriott to be top L2 scorer, 16-1 in a couple of spots.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on July 25, 2016, 05:20:30 PM
Dave Nevison made a good point yesterday about ante-post racing.

Most years they used to go into the winter 5-1+ the field, but it never happens now. If Listen has the top-rated 2yo you know it'll be shorter than that.

If Fair Eva wins the Lowther, and she will if she runs, she could easily go below 2-1. In that case 4-1 would look decent, but on the flip side we'll be backing a filly who's run twice, and is yet to go in a Group 1, for a Classic that's ten months away.

How about a nice Luton-based flick? Jack Marriott to be top L2 scorer, 16-1 in a couple of spots.

Looks like a decent 'local special' sweat, and also has the merit of standing a chance to land. Other thoughts welcome - form an orderly queue please!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on July 25, 2016, 05:54:16 PM
Fair Eva doesn't train on, gets injured; Jack Marriott gets sold/injured &c &c and there's not much of a sweat. I'd suggest something like a season bet and as this is the racing thread how about Willie Mullins 2016/17 NH Trainers' Championship?
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/racing-specials/long-term/2016-17-national-hunt-trainers-championship/winning-trainer (http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/racing-specials/long-term/2016-17-national-hunt-trainers-championship/winning-trainer)

A 94% book of the front two across Satan and Joe. Harold Kirk's been buying in SW France as usual. And there's a chance that hitting the crossbar last year has given WPM a taste for it and he'll attack low-key Saturdays at Warwick or wherever from earlier in the year this time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on July 25, 2016, 05:55:03 PM
shows how hard racing is , 2 results at newton abbot
spring steel ...since joining alex dunn 7/9 beaten 141 lenghts and pulled up 5 times ....bolted up
phantom price last 5 runs pu, 6/6 beaten 78 lenghts 8/8 beaten 48 lenghts, 12/13 beaten 56 lenghts 16/19 beaten 50 lengths, also wins readilly lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 25, 2016, 06:04:35 PM
Fair Eva doesn't train on, gets injured; Jack Marriott gets sold/injured &c &c and there's not much of a sweat. I'd suggest something like a season bet and as this is the racing thread how about Willie Mullins 2016/17 NH Trainers' Championship?
http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/racing-specials/long-term/2016-17-national-hunt-trainers-championship/winning-trainer (http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/racing-specials/long-term/2016-17-national-hunt-trainers-championship/winning-trainer)

A 94% book of the front two across Satan and Joe. Harold Kirk's been buying in SW France as usual. And there's a chance that hitting the crossbar last year has given WPM a taste for it and he'll attack low-key Saturdays at Warwick or wherever from earlier in the year this time.

No good for a free bet, but should definitely be a good sweat.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 25, 2016, 06:05:43 PM
shows how hard racing is , 2 results at newton abbot
spring steel ...since joining alex dunn 7/9 beaten 141 lenghts and pulled up 5 times ....bolted up
phantom price last 5 runs pu, 6/6 beaten 78 lenghts 8/8 beaten 48 lenghts, 12/13 beaten 56 lenghts 16/19 beaten 50 lengths, also wins readilly lol

Funny old game, lol.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on July 25, 2016, 07:26:39 PM
Dandy Flame wins at Wolverhampton at an SP of 200-1 - only one horse, Equinoctial, has ever won at a bigger price in Britain


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on July 25, 2016, 07:32:04 PM
Dandy Flame wins at Wolverhampton at an SP of 200-1 - only one horse, Equinoctial, has ever won at a bigger price in Britain

National rag day obviously today.  Lot of huge priced winners on the bags this afternoon as well.  Was it 1000/1 pre race on bf?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: treefella on July 25, 2016, 09:11:47 PM
 Lol one of my oldest friends owns the winner.
 he only had a tenner on
 sick result


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on July 25, 2016, 10:14:16 PM
If anyone has anything for Galway for Thursday-Saturday, a good friend is going and I'd like to ensure he comes back with a euro or two, now that they're increasing in value by the day.

Much appreciated, folks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on July 26, 2016, 12:47:40 AM
http://www.attheraces.com/blogs/kevin-blake

This is a really good hard hitting article about the reality of closing bundles of accounts which long term any firm should be able to beat once the going gets tough and the tilt session arrives.  Great piece.  I have been saying the same for years.  Add on the fact even if they win long term sports betting loads of winning sports bettors have huge leaks casino wise and will donk off pissed up once a year.  I know some incredible cases of this over the years.  If they don't have the money in their account because you won't lay them a bet then they will never play your casino.

I personally smashed up the Uttox betting ring on Sunday in cash and if my behaviour/results on the day in question were on an online betting site the account would have been closed before the last race.  I gave one bookie all of my action all day long.  Old school (old enough to be Tikay's dad and probably been standing on course for as long as Tikay has been alive) and happy to lay a bet win lose or draw for real money no questions asked and i felt it was a 100/1 shot i ever got knocked back on any bet. At times he was happy to take the machine on for whatever reason.  Twice he laid me a substantial bet over the betfair price and didn't even move the price after the bet was laid.  Paid out with a smile on his face every time.  Every bet i had went off shorter than sp and bf sp, some way shorter.  Punters really should go racing nowadays.  In my experience you get bets on that you would have no chance of getting on in a shop or online for decent money.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on July 26, 2016, 12:57:58 AM
Goodwood 4.20
Sprints are obv very tricky but 1/4 odds 1234 @ 14/1 with billys HARRY HURRICANE looks worth a bet e/w
was ul last year at meeting and is on an ok mark
won same grade race off only 2 lb lower at York
ground should be ok too, and james Doyle takes over.
Shorter on betfair


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on July 26, 2016, 01:02:36 AM
http://www.attheraces.com/blogs/kevin-blake

This is a really good hard hitting article about the reality of closing bundles of accounts which long term any firm should be able to beat once the going gets tough and the tilt session arrives.  Great piece.  I have been saying the same for years.  Add on the fact even if they win long term sports betting loads of winning sports bettors have huge leaks casino wise and will donk off pissed up once a year.  I know some incredible cases of this over the years.  If they don't have the money in their account because you won't lay them a bet then they will never play your casino.

Cheers, that is a very good piece


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 26, 2016, 01:33:47 AM
Goodwood 4.20
Sprints are obv very tricky but 1/4 odds 1234 @ 14/1 with billys HARRY HURRICANE looks worth a bet e/w
was ul last year at meeting and is on an ok mark
won same grade race off only 2 lb lower at York
ground should be ok too, and james Doyle takes over.
Shorter on betfair

James Doyle seems to have a decent book of rides on the opening day. And throughout the week. Just sayin.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on July 26, 2016, 01:38:21 AM
How is SDS still 2/5 for the jockeys title?  He hasn't rode a winner for weeks and had a 2 week ban on top.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 26, 2016, 10:12:02 AM
How is SDS still 2/5 for the jockeys title?  He hasn't rode a winner for weeks and had a 2 week ban on top.

Beats me. James Doyle is also too big in this market @ 14-1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 26, 2016, 10:15:58 AM
Actulally I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Doyle top of the pile come Saturday evening.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Weetabix on July 26, 2016, 11:53:11 AM
Dandy Flame was just over 760/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: fatcatstu on July 26, 2016, 12:44:22 PM
Actulally I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Doyle top of the pile come Saturday evening.

Wonderful, backed a few of his horses each way today!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on July 26, 2016, 11:28:19 PM
Goodwood 4.20
Sprints are obv very tricky but 1/4 odds 1234 @ 14/1 with billys HARRY HURRICANE looks worth a bet e/w
was ul last year at meeting and is on an ok mark
won same grade race off only 2 lb lower at York
ground should be ok too, and james Doyle takes over.
Shorter on betfair

Sigh so annoying get the price, misses the break and finishs 5th


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 27, 2016, 10:19:25 AM

RIP




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 27, 2016, 12:34:00 PM
Tragic, isn't it.

RIP


Thought this was very nice, especially from Ruby.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnwyGo0LMnc


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: fatcatstu on July 27, 2016, 06:39:26 PM
Lovely result on Shady McCoy at 16/1 there to more than rescue the day!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on July 27, 2016, 07:18:58 PM
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqkaa0cc7Z1r25534o1_500.gif)

If anyone has anything for Galway for Thursday-Saturday, a good friend is going and I'd like to ensure he comes back with a euro or two, now that they're increasing in value by the day.

Much appreciated, folks.

(http://m1.her.ie/YToyOntzOjQ6ImRhdGEiO3M6MTgzOiJhOjM6e3M6MzoidXJsIjtzOjEyMToiaHR0cDovL21lZGlhLWhlci5tYXhpbXVtbWVkaWEuaWUuczMuYW1hem9uYXdzLmNvbS93cC1jb250ZW50L3VwbG9hZHMvMjAxMi8wNy82YTczNDExZGM4ZjFkNWRlZTU3NWQxNDRiNWQwYmI0NWI3YmIwZDBkLmpwZyI7czo1OiJ3aWR0aCI7aTo2NDc7czo2OiJoZWlnaHQiO2k6MzQwO30iO3M6NDoiaGFzaCI7czo0MDoiMTVhMmM0ZWE0ZjkxNTczNjE1NTE3ZDkyZjI0NDJiYTQ1ZTBmNzkzMCI7fQ==/6a73411dc8f1d5dee575d144b5d0bb45b7bb0d0d.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on July 28, 2016, 12:21:04 PM
shows how hard racing is , 2 results at newton abbot
spring steel ...since joining alex dunn 7/9 beaten 141 lenghts and pulled up 5 times ....bolted up
phantom price last 5 runs pu, 6/6 beaten 78 lenghts 8/8 beaten 48 lenghts, 12/13 beaten 56 lenghts 16/19 beaten 50 lengths, also wins readilly lol

Spring Steel is running again today 2.45 Stratford, baring accidents no reason why it shouldnt win again, and prob again, she does this with a few of her horses, potentially very well handicapped, 6/4 to jump around anyone ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on July 28, 2016, 01:48:05 PM
2/1 now .... seems it is being opposed by 2nd and 3rd favs, he does get nice bit of weight from those 2 tho.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: fatcatstu on July 28, 2016, 03:53:07 PM
shows how hard racing is , 2 results at newton abbot
spring steel ...since joining alex dunn 7/9 beaten 141 lenghts and pulled up 5 times ....bolted up
phantom price last 5 runs pu, 6/6 beaten 78 lenghts 8/8 beaten 48 lenghts, 12/13 beaten 56 lenghts 16/19 beaten 50 lengths, also wins readilly lol

Spring Steel is running again today 2.45 Stratford, baring accidents no reason why it shouldnt win again, and prob again, she does this with a few of her horses, potentially very well handicapped, 6/4 to jump around anyone ?

Thanks for that!! Good work :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on July 28, 2016, 03:59:20 PM
Bolted up again, think its entered up for hurdle race in 3 days ,  :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 28, 2016, 04:42:17 PM
Was out, but just watched race back now, and head in chest again :D

Well done lads.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 30, 2016, 10:58:01 AM
Good Morning Line today :D

Think they need a different host if they want Braveheart and Cunningham on together again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on July 30, 2016, 12:19:09 PM
Good Morning Line today :D

Think they need a different host if they want Braveheart and Cunningham on together again.

I enjoyed that enormously. In fact, I enjoyed it this much:

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=67073.0


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 04, 2016, 04:25:18 PM
Turf Club to investigate Byrnes gamble further
 
BY DAVID JENNINGS 8:00PM 3 AUG 2016
 
IRELAND'S racing regulator is to dig deeper into the betting coup successfully executed by Charles Byrnes at Roscommon on Tuesday night.

Turf Club chief executive Denis Egan indicated the book had not been closed on the matter, although he underlined raceday officials were happy with measures taken on the day.

The stewards at Roscommon held inquiries into the apparent improvement in form of two of the three winners that enabled Byrnes to execute a gamble a betting industry insider estimated stretched "well into seven figures".

No action was taken by stewards, but the explanations of the trainer were noted in the two inquiries on a night when any punter on at the very early prices would have netted a combined treble of 4,334-1 on War Anthem, Mr Smith and Top Of The Town.

The Roscommon trio: profiles

WAR ANTHEM
Unsuccessful in ten starts for John Murphy but did start 11-10 favourite for a 7f maiden at Laytown last September on his final start for Murphy, where he was beaten over four lengths into third. He was sold for 8,000gns at Tattersalls last October but showed precious little on his first two outings for Byrnes, beaten an aggregate 139 lengths in two maiden hurdles at Listowel and Limerick. With the 97-rated Henry Howard among the leading fancies for the Roscommon race, it was without doubt a moderate maiden hurdle and War Anthem took full advantage.

MR SMITH
A Galileo gelding who cost a tasty 280,000gns as a yearling and is a brother to St Leger third Michelangelo, as well as classy stayer No Heretic who sadly lost his life at Goodwood last week. Bought by Byrnes in October 2014 for 25,000gns, when a 63-rated maiden on the Flat for John Gosden. In his previous 11 starts before Roscommon, Mr Smith has been beaten a total of 496 and a half lengths. His hurdle mark had dropped only from 88 to 83 in all that time. It was his first try at two and a half miles, and it was only the second time he had worn blinkers.

TOP OF THE TOWN
Started life with Patrick Neville but showed precious little in three starts for him in 2013. First glimpse of ability arrived at Kilbeggan in June last year when upped to three miles for the first time and finishing a close-up third to Dunroe Boy in a handicap off a mark of 93. He was placed in a handicap at Limerick next time before opening his account in 2m7f maiden hurdle at Downpatrick in July, having been supported into 11-8. Form tailed off after that and was beaten 51 lengths in his first two outings of 2016. His mark dropped 3lb to 100 as a result, and he wore a hood at Roscommon, the same piece of headgear he had on when delivering at Downpatrick but which was left off on his first two runs this year.

Egan said: "We will look into it further, but the stewards on the night did conduct two improvement-in-form inquiries and examined videos of those horses' previous runs and were happy with the action they took."

All three Byrnes runners had shown poor form in the lead-up to Tuesday's races, but War Anthem and Top Of The Town were backed from 16-1 in the morning to starting prices of 6-1 and 5-4, while Mr Smith's early price of 14-1 shrank to an SP of 7-4. All three were ridden by Davy Russell.

Stewards spoke with Byrnes after the victories of War Anthem and Mr Smith, but there was no stewards' note following the race won by Top Of The Town.

Read all the fall-out from the successful gamble on the Racing Post ipad now, or in Thursday's Racing Post

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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on August 06, 2016, 05:28:33 PM
Rules query - If you take a match bet selection and one of the horses is withdrawn under orders should you forefeit the bet or should you be on a winner/loser?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 09, 2016, 01:40:59 PM
Thirsk 3.00
Dark wonder is fav but won a worse race off lower mark than here, although there seems to be expected improvement on second run for new trainer.
Im drawn to MIDLIGHT tho, has come back to form and on a very nice mark, if reproducing old form , and with the tounge tie on again at 15/2 in this grade looks worth a little bet, almost same price as bettfair. Although a maiden looke d full of promise early on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on August 09, 2016, 03:10:02 PM
Rules query - If you take a match bet selection and one of the horses is withdrawn under orders should you forefeit the bet or should you be on a winner/loser?

"withdrawn under orders" is a bit of an archaic term.  I'm not sure it is valid any more.  I think a horse is either a runner or not.

edit the betfair rules are

If both horses achieve the same position this market will be settled as a dead heat. If either horse fails to come under starters orders all bets will be void. Any other non runners will not affect this market. At least one horse must finish the race for bets to stand.

So if a horse didn't take part after coming under starters orders the bet stands, I just can't recall a horse being "withdrawn" under orders for years decades.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 09, 2016, 04:06:26 PM
Midlight ran ok, got 3rd if anyone did it e/w, the winner was beten 66 lenghts last time in same grade lol lot of joke results recently, prob the better ground helped  ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 10, 2016, 02:17:35 PM
Sat here watching the Handicapping programme on 415, and even if you hate Matt Chapman(for whatever bizarre reason), he is the only person that makes me laugh and smile on a regular basis during a racing programme. If he doesn't, you dont have a sense of humour. End of.

Hannon has one running tonight called Sunset Dream in the 7.40. Ran an interesting race LTO at Kempton, showing a burst of speed at the cutaway, and then staying on again nicely as he learnt what was expected. a nice ew price tonight at 12-1, to improve again. Cant go mad as it is one more run for a mark, but worth a mention.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 10, 2016, 02:52:27 PM
Hi adz, will have a look at that one ina bit. I have a good sense of humour, but Chapman does my fkin head in ...he goes on and on and on and on.....
Akhlaaq should be a thievey ew bet in 2.20 trouble is they dont usually get knocked about first time out, oh and Hanagan  :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 10, 2016, 04:19:51 PM
Akhlaaq ran bit green but done it ok in end, entered in some decent races too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 10, 2016, 09:34:04 PM
Well done guys, great value spot Adz - unlucky not to scoop there

seems like we should get this thread revved up again...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 11, 2016, 09:22:28 AM
In a rush but had some bets today:

 Queen in Waiting 1.50 Bev at current 4-1
DUBKA @ 13/8   3.40 Sal
MISS BATES @ 10/1  2.20 Bev
MUIRSHEEN DURKIN @ 6/1 2.20 Bev


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 11, 2016, 11:10:50 AM
They are all up against it in the 4.10 at Salisbury against 2000 Guineas second Massaat, but I thought maybe Tony Curtis still has enough potential to look a decent ew poke.

A course and distance winner last season in August, he made his comeback in the Craven and basically went off too fast, but travelled well in good company. He was next seen after quite a break at Goodwood, where he was held up out the back and travelled as well as anything for most of the race, and finished well to be just behind the leaders.

As he is fresher than most here, I am hoping he still has a bit to give and despite my old fav Sovereign Debt lurking, TC may just be the improver at a decent price around 12-1 ew.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 11, 2016, 01:25:20 PM
Hi adz , im with Masaat here, good luck with your ew.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on August 12, 2016, 08:23:46 AM
Off to Nottingham races this afternoon, dont think its the classiest selection of races this afternoon but if anyone fancies anything please let me know!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 12, 2016, 08:57:30 AM
Off to Nottingham races this afternoon, dont think its the classiest selection of races this afternoon but if anyone fancies anything please let me know!


Will be having bets on Honeysuckle Lil and Who Dares wins.

Gl.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 12, 2016, 02:42:56 PM
Had a tiny win bet on go go green in 4.10 Newcastle 14-1 feels just barely good enough in case first time hood and surface inspire renewed enthusiasm.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 12, 2016, 03:02:30 PM
Will have a look Simon, nice couple winners yesterday wd.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 12, 2016, 03:35:25 PM
Had a tiny win bet on go go green in 4.10 Newcastle 14-1 feels just barely good enough in case first time hood and surface inspire renewed enthusiasm.

He is on a career low mark so if finding any of old form with the hood would have a nice chance, but 10 year olds trying new things maybe just showing they are desperate for one last win out of the old fella, gl.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 12, 2016, 05:26:57 PM
Think I should provide a back to lay service.

They all get smashed up price wise, but run like dogs, sadly. :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 12, 2016, 07:21:29 PM
If anyone has anything for Doncaster tomorrow, some friends of mine are heading up (racing for the men, Simply Red for the ladies - bet Braveheart is loving it).

Tips, fancies and speculative punts welcome.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on August 13, 2016, 12:41:02 AM
That's the Daily Express editorial being rewritten for the morning then...

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/olympics/2016/08/12/105581632_KJT_high_jump-SPORT-medium_trans++bNWtAZp4M83CNbYcU41Ja-EvAKWngyVwkqmAwtE89C4.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on August 24, 2016, 01:18:22 PM
New bookie appeared on the end of Oddschecker. https://www.blacktype.bet/why-black-type/

No account closure. No BOG, no offers. UKGC reg'd. Min bet guarantees (500/1000). Sounds all too good to be true. This is the platform provider https://secure.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/gccustomweb/PublicRegister/PRAccountDetails.aspx?accountNo=22201  (https://secure.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/gccustomweb/PublicRegister/PRAccountDetails.aspx?accountNo=22201). No mention of Black Type on the licence. Companies House entry here. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09948483
 (https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09948483)
Does anyone know anything more about them?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 24, 2016, 01:45:37 PM
New bookie appeared on the end of Oddschecker. https://www.blacktype.bet/why-black-type/

No account closure. No BOG, no offers. UKGC reg'd. Min bet guarantees (500/1000). Sounds all too good to be true. This is the platform provider https://secure.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/gccustomweb/PublicRegister/PRAccountDetails.aspx?accountNo=22201  (https://secure.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/gccustomweb/PublicRegister/PRAccountDetails.aspx?accountNo=22201). No mention of Black Type on the licence. Companies House entry here. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09948483
 (https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09948483)
Does anyone know anything more about them?

Heard about them a few days ago. Here we go I guess. Be incred if it all works out, but that'd be odds against.

No restrictions, no accounts closures. Lol until proven otherwise.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on August 24, 2016, 01:54:33 PM
Cheers. 'Taking all the sharp money that no-one else wants' as a business model? Keep deposits small, I guess?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Skippy on August 24, 2016, 02:12:58 PM
Pinnacle are doing this, so maybe it is possible?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 24, 2016, 02:27:45 PM
Cheers. 'Taking all the sharp money that no-one else wants' as a business model? Keep deposits small, I guess?

If they're appearing on Oddschecker, you'd hope they won't prove to be Luvbet Mk II.

It can be done and fair play to them if they manage it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually stopped EW on filthy races.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 24, 2016, 08:27:29 PM
R.I.P Tom O Ryan.

Seemed a top bloke.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 24, 2016, 09:40:31 PM
Yeah, seemed very well liked.

RIP

Nice piece by Will Hayler on SL website.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 24, 2016, 09:41:00 PM
Good podcast here, with Dr Channing and the TFF crew

https://soundcloud.com/emmet-kennedy/the-betting-podcast


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 25, 2016, 01:32:34 AM
R.I.P Tom O Ryan.

Seemed a top bloke.

Raceform racereader during my days there. Well respected. It was O'R, AA and WG op north.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 26, 2016, 08:11:24 AM
Found a few bets at Thirsk today..

5.50 BONHOMIE @ 5/1 form of win at Wolv has worked out well
4.40 MESHARDAL @ 8/1
4.05 Intense Style @ 14/1 e/w


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Dewi_cool on August 30, 2016, 10:43:49 AM
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/fitzgerald-latest-to-land-prize-role-on-itv-racing-team/2147110/top/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Girgy85 on September 02, 2016, 07:44:00 PM
Sennockian Star 8pm Kempton been told 'Mortgage'


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on September 02, 2016, 07:46:15 PM
Sennockian Star 8pm Kempton been told 'Mortgage'

Sennockian Star is never a horse to have the mortgage on.

GL with it though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on September 02, 2016, 07:55:41 PM
Am taking an umbrella to Stratford tomorrow.

Tips welcome.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on September 02, 2016, 08:52:32 PM
Am taking an umbrella to Stratford tomorrow.

Tips welcome.

3.35 Set List
Daryl Jacob goes for just this one ride on an improving 2xC&D winner. The Fav (Gowanauthat) is getting into the grips of the Handicapper now, 6lbs higher for its last win. At the prices, I think Set List is a good bet at 4/1

GL & have a great day


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on September 02, 2016, 09:06:26 PM
Sennockian Star 8pm Kempton been told 'Mortgage'

Unlucky Girgs, super close


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on September 02, 2016, 09:17:54 PM
Am taking an umbrella to Stratford tomorrow.

Tips welcome.

3.35 Set List
Daryl Jacob goes for just this one ride on an improving 2xC&D winner. The Fav (Gowanauthat) is getting into the grips of the Handicapper now, 6lbs higher for its last win. At the prices, I think Set List is a good bet at 4/1

GL & have a great day

Much obliged


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on September 09, 2016, 07:27:13 PM
Thommo, Thommo, Thommo...

the most awkward "mum" joke you'll ever hear

https://t.co/5ZeABJbLSV

(http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article8800588.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Screen-Shot-2016-09-09-at-145433.png)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 09, 2016, 09:51:51 PM
Tommo is such a buffoon. Had a gig at Newmarket this summer pouncing on anyone and everyone in the winner's enclosure and giving cringey interviews.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 15, 2016, 09:16:08 PM
thought Blushes looked a nice price at 6-1 in the 8.50 Chelmsford with Crowley on board  and since I looked up the sire stats on the track I'll throw in a fun e/w double with Lisala in the 8.20


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Cavey007 on September 15, 2016, 09:53:12 PM
Thank you very much!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Killerkilsby on September 15, 2016, 10:01:03 PM
Thank you very much!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on September 16, 2016, 02:58:15 PM
Matt Chapman confirmed as ITV betting reporter and presenter


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on September 16, 2016, 06:30:22 PM
Matt Chapman confirmed as ITV betting reporter and presenter

A modern day McCrirrick or the perfect way to bring the racing people in while the rest focus on the recs?

I love the appointment, by the way


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on September 18, 2016, 11:33:03 AM
The Rooney switcher angle has mostly run its course now that other trainers have had a season to run horses that The Don handicapped so well for them but there's a chance for one last hurrah in the 1500 at Plumpton.

MR BURGESS. First run for Pipe. 6/4 with Hills. Short now Shady Glen has come out and Pipe doesn't have great stats bringing them back off a break but the horse has been as high as 129, off 115 today. Such a weak race I had to have a bet for old angles' sake.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on September 18, 2016, 04:52:59 PM
Pffft. Here's hoping it's so quiet round here today that nobody followed me in. (BSP 2.64).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on September 18, 2016, 08:50:50 PM
Pffft. Here's hoping it's so quiet round here today that nobody followed me in. (BSP 2.64).

Not that lucky!

 ;whistle;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on September 18, 2016, 09:08:40 PM
Matt Chapman confirmed as ITV betting reporter and presenter

Groan


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on September 18, 2016, 09:25:44 PM
Stuart. Mate. :-(

€863,638 in the Irish Pick Six going on to the Curragh next Sunday. Anyone getting involved?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 18, 2016, 09:58:08 PM
Matt Chapman confirmed as ITV betting reporter and presenter
Yeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaa

FYP ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 20, 2016, 08:12:02 AM
Matt Chapman confirmed as ITV betting reporter and presenter

A modern day McCrirrick or the perfect way to bring the racing people in while the rest focus on the recs?

I love the appointment, by the way

This.

Not sure if he keeps his ATR gig but won't help them if he goes.

Great news for racing's profile.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 20, 2016, 09:32:22 AM

He keeps ATR post and Sun column


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 20, 2016, 10:57:41 AM

He keeps ATR post and Sun column

Excellent.

Whatever any of us think most trainer's seem happy to chat to him and have a laugh, which is great. It doesn't need to be all straight laced and formal to get what you need from these people.

Good luck to him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 20, 2016, 01:04:54 PM

He keeps ATR post and Sun column

Excellent.

Whatever any of us think most trainer's seem happy to chat to him and have a laugh, which is great. It doesn't need to be all straight laced and formal to get what you need from these people.

Good luck to him.

i have watched the "morning line" once since they threw the "fat thing" off

With Chappers about i may give it another go, he isn't afraid to ask what we want to know

He will bring fresh enjoyment instead of the stuffy shite of the present C4 team

Also the lads got more knowledge than the current doubters give him credit for


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 24, 2016, 10:42:09 AM
Lots of goings on at Tom Georges this summer, with Adrian Heskin coming in for the job over poor old Paddy, who I think keeps Gods Law and Saint Are rides.

Cernunos has threatened to win several times and looks a nice price if JP decides to pull the trigger today at 12/14s in the 3.10 MR


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 24, 2016, 04:37:03 PM
Lots of goings on at Tom Georges this summer, with Adrian Heskin coming in for the job over poor old Paddy, who I think keeps Gods Law and Saint Are rides.

Cernunos has threatened to win several times and looks a nice price if JP decides to pull the trigger today at 12/14s in the 3.10 MR


Money came, and went off at 8-1.

Never looked happy and never sighted with a chance.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on September 28, 2016, 12:31:52 PM
Gigginstown remove 60 horses from Mullins due to fees disagreement http://bit.ly/2dr4Odz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 28, 2016, 12:40:45 PM
Gigginstown remove 60 horses from Mullins due to fees disagreement http://bit.ly/2dr4Odz

When O'Leary & Mullins sit down to negotiate, that's some tough gig, neither likes to be pushed around.

Entirely possible it is brinkmanship by The Great Man, who did exactly the same with with Boeing when he was negotiating to purchase options on a fleet of 737-800's & ended up getting his way.

Notable that both parties were gracious to each other in their statements. "Gracious" does not come easy to either, except when it suits their own ends.     


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on September 28, 2016, 12:46:39 PM
Perhaps Mullins should have negotiated very low fees but extra payments for making race entries online or extra nosebags for his horses


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 28, 2016, 12:50:49 PM
Perhaps Mullins should have negotiated very low fees but extra payments for making race entries online or extra nosebags for his horses

Now now, no need for that, let's shows the respect due to The Great Man & the world's most profitable airline, you may well need his services to follow Leicester City around Europe. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on September 28, 2016, 01:43:48 PM
Richard Hoiles poised to become the voice of ITV racing; but Simon Holt not part of ITV's plans> http://bit.ly/2dr4uvy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on September 28, 2016, 05:24:49 PM
Perhaps Mullins should have negotiated very low fees but extra payments for making race entries online or extra nosebags for his horses

Michael O'Leary walks in to a bar in Dublin and orders a pint of Guinness. "That'll be 2 Euro's" says the barman. "That seems very reasonable" says Michael. "Now" says the barman..........."Will you be wanting a glass with that?"


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 28, 2016, 07:07:54 PM
I don't think it's unreasonable for Willie to increase his fees for the first time in ten years, although he didn't state how much they had increased.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on September 28, 2016, 07:24:25 PM
wonder how many times in 10 years the highwaymen of the sky have put their prices up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 28, 2016, 08:45:22 PM
All valid comments.

Can't believe the increase can be that much if no one else has complained.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on September 28, 2016, 08:59:11 PM
5 euros a day

As usually the case probably more to this we will never know


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on October 06, 2016, 12:02:07 AM

Was at Kelso racecourse at the weekend.  Fab little course and I would recommend a visit.  Go to the members enclosure and you can climb to the top of the stand for a fantastic view of the surrounding countryside.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 08, 2016, 12:07:35 AM
Very much looking forward to seeing Clan des Obeaux go chasing tomorrow. Lovely weight allowance.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 08, 2016, 12:11:06 AM
Very much looking forward to seeing Clan des Obeaux go chasing tomorrow. Lovely weight allowance.

I'm just looking forward to seeing lots of chasing, and hurdling.

After Pipe has won the Cesarewitch, obv.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 17, 2016, 10:10:24 AM
The full line up for the new Racing Programme on ITV.

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/2/10620732/itv-racing-line-up-frankie-dettori-and-victoria-pendleton-to-join-ed-chamberlin


Great to see Chapman replace Tanya as betting person.

Oli Bell fronting the morning line type show is a solid choice and Harvey and Weaver are always fun(I know, some here won't like that :dontask:)

Hoilles replacing Holt is the best bit of business.

Not so good to see Alice Plunkett, Fitz and Rishi still lurking.*


*Just my opinion


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on October 17, 2016, 10:14:16 AM
Sad to see no place for Jim McGrath.  Hope he chose to go.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on October 17, 2016, 01:34:16 PM
Luke Harvey and Weaver a good pair.
See Luke at the point to points with his horses, always having fun,.......and a pint or two  :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 17, 2016, 03:56:02 PM
Victoria Pendleton? WTF!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 17, 2016, 04:13:51 PM
Victoria Pendleton? WTF!

Sooner listen to her, than Mick Fitzgerald.

Massive name, that will bring in the casuals, for at least a while.

Seems quite logical to me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 17, 2016, 04:56:28 PM
Just surprising tbh. Not a good jockey and always struck me as hating being in front of the camera.

Anything's better than Thick Fitzgerald though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 17, 2016, 05:05:16 PM
Just surprising tbh. Not a good jockey and always struck me as hating being in front of the camera.

Anything's better than Thick Fitzgerald though.

Agree that it's surprising, but can see why they've done it.

Most of the times she's been on camera  were probably after taking a flyer, so understandable :D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 17, 2016, 05:30:00 PM
Pendo fine by me

Turner jesus wept looks to hate every minute of being on atr


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on October 19, 2016, 03:21:28 PM
Hi all,
       In the kempton 7.50 MORACHE MUSIC is running off 81 , thats before jock claims 5lb, until last 2 runs horse been massively out of form ,but last win, albeit 2 years ago ! was with top weight in a 0-105 rated 104. this is a 0-85
last two runs deff shown a bit of promise and would be absolutely thrown in if could just improve a bit, its a big if but lads are 9/1 standout and could be worth a little bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 28, 2016, 11:27:05 AM
Top Notch makes his debut over fences today at Uttoxeter and I've been looking forward to this as he was a super jumper of hurdles.

It looks to be a pretty hot contest for a beginners' 'chase but 7/4 TN has tempted me in as he was miles better than these on ratings.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Simon Galloway on October 28, 2016, 04:13:34 PM
Ty Ralph, followed you in.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 28, 2016, 04:49:06 PM
Every chance and looked like the winner two out traded @1.42 IR.

:(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on October 28, 2016, 04:49:47 PM
FU Ralph, followed you in.

 ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on October 28, 2016, 04:53:39 PM
Popping into Wetherby on my way home from work (work at Thorp Arch about 2 miles away) for the sole purpose of backing Star Trouper in the 5.00 race.

Decent form in bumpers and since Sophie Leech has done her usual trick of running it over trips which are probably too sharp in Novice Hurdles (see Dothraki Raider's win the other day). Stepping up 5 furlongs on handicap debut today with the usual 7lb claimer, worth a punt.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on October 28, 2016, 06:05:06 PM
Beaten traded 1.01. £100ew @ 9/1. Kill me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 28, 2016, 06:05:18 PM
Popping into Wetherby on my way home from work (work at Thorp Arch about 2 miles away) for the sole purpose of backing Star Trouper in the 5.00 race.

Decent form in bumpers and since Sophie Leech has done her usual trick of running it over trips which are probably too sharp in Novice Hurdles (see Dothraki Raider's win the other day). Stepping up 5 furlongs on handicap debut today with the usual 7lb claimer, worth a punt.

Should have done some overtime instead


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on October 28, 2016, 06:21:17 PM
Threw my rolled up racing post at the horse on the way out. come get me rspca


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 28, 2016, 06:56:02 PM
LOL. Good spot there and unlucky.

British NH racing: where connections plot one up with a stopper.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on October 28, 2016, 08:51:45 PM
Going to the big day tomorrow at Wetherby (all day this time).

Really disappointed Coneygree isn't running as hes on of my fav horses in training and I'm not a huge Cue Card fan having never backed him.

Anyway, I'd advise hoovering up the 4/1 on Zipple Back Each Way in the bad e/w race at 3.55. The stable like him and I reckon he'll go off 5/2 tops, so obv we'll be getting 4/5 on the place when itll probs be 1.39 on betfair on the off.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 28, 2016, 09:00:36 PM
You'll never find a better EW race than that. Reckon it'll be about 1.15, 1.3 and 1.3 a place the top three. Almost impossible to lose.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on October 29, 2016, 05:22:35 PM
Second for the good guys. :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on October 31, 2016, 06:38:56 PM
Jim Crowley & Freddie Tylicki airlifted to hospital after horrific fall at Kempton. Four horses & jockeys went down (looked like clipped heels); all the horses up but only two jockeys.

Thoughts with them and their loved ones.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on October 31, 2016, 06:49:22 PM
brave lads. horrible one

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwHT9KaXEAAp8e9.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on October 31, 2016, 08:34:53 PM
I watched the race real time and looks serious. Watched it slow mo & FT looks like he's potentially in serious trouble, he somersaults in the air landing on his back at super speed. Reports say JC took by road and FT by air


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on October 31, 2016, 11:51:35 PM
Jim Crowley discharged. FT in intensive care. According toTwitter/SS


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 04, 2016, 03:28:10 PM
Rashaan got flagged up in my tracker yesterday for it's 4th run in a month.

Obviously ignored/forgot about it...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 04, 2016, 03:35:55 PM
Rashaan got flagged up in my tracker yesterday for it's 4th run in a month.

Obviously ignored/forgot about it...

Just clicked onto the RP website, and knew you'd have posted :D

I'd written my money off before the Triumph, and had taken it out anyway.

Maybe a good time to back Apples Jade if you fancy her for the CH, as she can't have been fit there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on November 05, 2016, 12:10:21 AM

Bugger

Frederik Tylicki has been told by doctors he has a T7 paralysis - meaning he has movement in the upper half of his body but not lower

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/10645073/freddy-tylicki-suffers-t7-paralysis-following-kempton-fall (http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/10645073/freddy-tylicki-suffers-t7-paralysis-following-kempton-fall)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 06, 2016, 12:47:54 AM
Got Om, Wavell Ave, and now Tepin all mullered this evening.

Marvellous..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 06, 2016, 06:29:49 PM

Bugger

Frederik Tylicki has been told by doctors he has a T7 paralysis - meaning he has movement in the upper half of his body but not lower

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/10645073/freddy-tylicki-suffers-t7-paralysis-following-kempton-fall (http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/10645073/freddy-tylicki-suffers-t7-paralysis-following-kempton-fall)



Terrible thing at any age, nevermind when he was just getting himself up to the top level.

See they've managed to raise over 100k already for him, and hopefully there'll be a lot more in time.


On the other side of things, I see Vautour has had to be put down after breaking a leg :(

We'll never get to know...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on November 06, 2016, 06:38:28 PM
Have noticed for ages that the lighting round that home turn is awful. Whether that played a part or not.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 06, 2016, 06:46:10 PM
All those races and Vautour breaks a leg grazing in the paddock at home that he visits every day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on November 06, 2016, 06:55:03 PM

Bugger

Frederik Tylicki has been told by doctors he has a T7 paralysis - meaning he has movement in the upper half of his body but not lower

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/10645073/freddy-tylicki-suffers-t7-paralysis-following-kempton-fall (http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/10645073/freddy-tylicki-suffers-t7-paralysis-following-kempton-fall)



Matt Chapman has set up a collection page on www.gofundme.com/freddie-tylicki for Freddie. He's a total stranger to me, of course, but it was the easiest decision to donate that I've ever made.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 11, 2016, 11:20:36 PM
Anyone got any ideas who will replace p.hannagan ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on November 11, 2016, 11:43:28 PM
Anyone got any ideas who will replace p.hannagan ?

For maktoum? Doyle.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 12, 2016, 12:03:33 AM
he rides for the boys in blue tho ....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 12, 2016, 12:12:26 AM
he rides for the boys in blue tho ....

Doyle was first name that sprang to mind, as I thought he was no longer first choice for them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on November 12, 2016, 12:14:03 AM
he rides for the boys in blue tho ....

Doyle was first name that sprang to mind, as I thought he was no longer first choice for them.

Dropped by bin sunroor


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 12, 2016, 12:16:42 AM
Thoughts for tomorrow's Cheltenham meeting welcome, folks.

Other than take a scarf and something waterproof.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 12, 2016, 12:23:50 AM
Hi Tal,
I put up little write up on big race in TFT, basically i like tarquin du seuil and stilletto


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on November 12, 2016, 12:36:03 AM
Thoughts for tomorrow's Cheltenham meeting welcome, folks.

Other than take a scarf and something waterproof.

Favourite looks a nice animal in the second


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on November 12, 2016, 12:41:36 AM
Thoughts for tomorrow's Cheltenham meeting welcome, folks.

Other than take a scarf and something waterproof.

Favourite looks a nice animal in the second

Nah. Can't back orange ones. Jockey looks like Charlie Brown.

(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/peanuts/images/9/90/543939_10151967754250682_567007707_n.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160307101522)

Plus the record says 11111. Must be due a loss. I learned that from Deal or No Deal.

Gotta have a system.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uCZhaZltbX8/hqdefault.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 12, 2016, 12:44:55 AM
Thoughts for tomorrow's Cheltenham meeting welcome, folks.

Other than take a scarf and something waterproof.

Favourite looks a nice animal in the second

Nah. Can't back orange ones. Jockey looks like Charlie Brown.

fucks me Tal, i think u have the game sussed  :)

(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/peanuts/images/9/90/543939_10151967754250682_567007707_n.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160307101522)

Plus the record says 11111. Must be due a loss. I learned that from Deal or No Deal.

Gotta have a system.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uCZhaZltbX8/hqdefault.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 13, 2016, 03:10:28 PM
The fantastic Sprinter Sacre retired, then Simonsig has to be put down after breaking a leg at Cheltenham.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on November 13, 2016, 06:48:22 PM
The fantastic Sprinter Sacre retired, then Simonsig has to be put down after breaking a leg at Cheltenham.

The two always seemed to be tied, very sad, especially when simonsigs owners have had to be so patient and then watched sprinter come and get back to his best, must have been dreaming of similar. Was quite pleased sprinter retired his ability was destined to start failing didnt want to see him get beat by age or worse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Simon Galloway on November 16, 2016, 10:01:22 AM
Popping into Wetherby on my way home from work (work at Thorp Arch about 2 miles away) for the sole purpose of backing Star Trouper in the 5.00 race.

Decent form in bumpers and since Sophie Leech has done her usual trick of running it over trips which are probably too sharp in Novice Hurdles (see Dothraki Raider's win the other day). Stepping up 5 furlongs on handicap debut today with the usual 7lb claimer, worth a punt.

Runs again today at chepstow. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 16, 2016, 01:14:45 PM
^^ good luck if you have a bet, but he looks to be a bit doggy or have probs, had couple nice runs to start with but hasnt looked the most straightforward since. Bit better race too today i would say.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Simon Galloway on November 16, 2016, 03:35:05 PM
Had a small dabble ew, travelled pretty well, but one or two were better.  No harm done.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 16, 2016, 05:00:40 PM
Yeah ran bit better didnt it today, maybe 2m6f be better again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 16, 2016, 06:25:06 PM
Top Notch won today by 15L at the splendid price of 1/8.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on November 16, 2016, 06:26:26 PM
'Enhanced' 11/4 for 15 lengths or more though!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 16, 2016, 07:41:01 PM
'Enhanced' 11/4 for 15 lengths or more though!

Never looked at that and doubt very much that I'd have played.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 22, 2016, 01:49:58 PM
was gonna have e/w bet Master Jake in sedg 1.10 but only 7 runners now ...grrrrrrrrrrr


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 24, 2016, 12:15:16 PM
Crowley picks up Hanagan's job.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on November 24, 2016, 12:18:32 PM
Anything for Newcastle Saturday please?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on November 24, 2016, 02:38:42 PM
Crowley picks up Hanagan's job.


Dear Tony, thanks for making me champ. Kbye then.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 24, 2016, 03:36:54 PM
Crowley picks up Hanagan's job.


Dear Tony, thanks for making me champ. Kbye then.

Nature of his game surely, and he's got be happy enough with his bit of scratch?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on November 24, 2016, 03:41:49 PM
Crowley picks up Hanagan's job.


Dear Tony, thanks for making me champ. Kbye then.

Nature of his game surely, and he's got be happy enough with his bit of scratch?

The Hamdan gig is money for old rope. Can understand any jockey taking it but he doesn't own that many good horses these days.

Sure Crowley will get a few doubles at Newbury in October, but thought he was more ambitious tbh.

Wonder if Hind will pick up someone else for next season's title chase. Kirby?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 24, 2016, 04:02:21 PM
Crowley picks up Hanagan's job.


Dear Tony, thanks for making me champ. Kbye then.

Nature of his game surely, and he's got be happy enough with his bit of scratch?

The Hamdan gig is money for old rope. Can understand any jockey taking it but he doesn't own that many good horses these days.

Sure Crowley will get a few doubles at Newbury in October, but thought he was more ambitious tbh.

Wonder if Hind will pick up someone else for next season's title chase. Kirby?

Yeah, I presume they get a lumpy retainer, and just pick up the odd ride at the weekends to fill the cards.

I guess he's done it for a year, and just thought fuck that, too much graft :D

Hind must be used to that by now, and given how hard SDS worked to retain it, would he maybe switch to him?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on November 24, 2016, 04:39:41 PM
I doubt hanagan has the drive to do it all again but if he does he should go close

Impossible to call at this stage not sure Kirby is that arsed about it tbh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on November 24, 2016, 11:03:49 PM
I wouldn't fancy pricing it up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 25, 2016, 06:56:51 PM
Couldn't resist a speculative dabble on Triolo D'Alene in the win market @50 on betty earlier.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on November 25, 2016, 10:01:47 PM
Anything for Newcastle Saturday please?

bump
fighting fifth
anything?!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 25, 2016, 10:09:40 PM
Anything for Newcastle Saturday please?

bump
fighting fifth
anything?!

I've had a couple quid on Apples Jade, and like Bristol De Mai, too.

Just sporting punts though, no particularly strong feelings.

Backed Native River straight after his hurdles run, so hoping he goes well, too.

Hope the weather is alright, and you all have a good one mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 25, 2016, 11:04:36 PM
I quite fancy Chavski in the 5.30pm..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on November 25, 2016, 11:33:04 PM
Anything for Newcastle Saturday please?

bump
fighting fifth
anything?!

I've had a couple quid on Apples Jade, and like Bristol De Mai, too.

Just sporting punts though, no particularly strong feelings.

Backed Native River straight after his hurdles run, so hoping he goes well, too.

Hope the weather is alright, and you all have a good one mate.

I've backed them 3, so you're doomed haha.

Apple's Jade was the one who intrigued me, very strong juvenile form last year and won by half the track in the soft at Aintree, so big pluses.  Downside being she was bad in her comeback run, and then they said she'd be kept to mares only races and upped in trip haha. Maybe they think this is so weak they may as well win it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 26, 2016, 02:11:14 PM
Anything for Newcastle Saturday please?

bump
fighting fifth
anything?!

I've had a couple quid on Apples Jade, and like Bristol De Mai, too.

Just sporting punts though, no particularly strong feelings.

Backed Native River straight after his hurdles run, so hoping he goes well, too.

Hope the weather is alright, and you all have a good one mate.

I've backed them 3, so you're doomed haha.

Apple's Jade was the one who intrigued me, very strong juvenile form last year and won by half the track in the soft at Aintree, so big pluses.  Downside being she was bad in her comeback run, and then they said she'd be kept to mares only races and upped in trip haha. Maybe they think this is so weak they may as well win it

Haha, good luck us :)

I actually chucked a few quid on for the CH @ 33/1, so will be hoping that she is back on track here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Lonohray2 on November 26, 2016, 02:23:25 PM
My only 2 bets at Newcastle today are Apple Jade and Bristol de Mai also :)

Fancy Wakanda in the 3.30 also just because 365 have a 3 and 1/4 boost, available at 10-1 now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 26, 2016, 02:27:20 PM
If Ralph is on as well, then the burden may be too much :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 26, 2016, 03:06:48 PM
If Ralph is on as well, then the burden may be too much :D

You're all in luck as I like Sceau Royal :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Lonohray2 on November 26, 2016, 04:03:30 PM
Well we was on the right one  :dontask:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 26, 2016, 04:33:07 PM
Well we was on the right one  :dontask:

Strange race, but I think I'll right my score for the CH off, anyway :D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 26, 2016, 04:33:28 PM
If Ralph is on as well, then the burden may be too much :D

You're all in luck as I like Sceau Royal :)

Looked like it had your cash on his back ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 26, 2016, 10:11:02 PM
If Ralph is on as well, then the burden may be too much :D

You're all in luck as I like Sceau Royal :)

Looked like it had your cash on his back ;D

It seemed to get exposed as a bridle horse as did the runner-up in the 5.30pm ko.:)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: booder on November 26, 2016, 11:11:14 PM
If Ralph is on as well, then the burden may be too much :D

You're all in luck as I like Sceau Royal :)

Looked like it had your cash on his back ;D

It seemed to get exposed as a bridle horse as did the runner-up in the 5.30pm ko.:)

 ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 28, 2016, 07:45:01 PM
I'd love to get 5/1 Douvan war in The Tingle Creek this Saturday; come to think of it I'd just love to see it run.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 28, 2016, 07:58:22 PM
I'd love to get 5/1 Douvan war in The Tingle Creek this Saturday; come to think of it I'd just love to see it run.

I'll have some 10/1 Don Cossack war while we're dreaming :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 29, 2016, 11:42:08 AM
Meanwhile Douvan in from 5/1 to 3/1 and looking like a runner if the market is to be believed.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 29, 2016, 12:47:46 PM
Odds-on now and I appear to have missed another boat.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on November 29, 2016, 01:42:50 PM
I see Ians horse, bingo is running today, has top weight tho, any news around ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2016, 11:28:20 AM
No Douvan in today's final decs.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: NigDawG on December 02, 2016, 08:34:24 AM
No Douvan in today's final decs.

been watching this market all week with a vested interest, find the whole douvan thing farcical and unsavoury. i think this article is a good summary http://www.racinguk.com/news/article/47490/bookmakers-in-the-firing-line-after-douvan-is-not-declared-for-tingle-creek

it doesn't reflect well on the sport at all, and although turning up on the day is obviously a major risk with ante post betting, why is it only after 48hr decs are made mullins can say "It was an easy enough decision to make, it was probably Un De Sceaux all the time...". i appreciate his job is to his owners and not punters but really what is the point in him (or ruby either) being paid for his racingpost blog at this point?

i did see that betfred are refunding all ante post bets on douvan so well done them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 02, 2016, 11:57:08 AM
I'm wondering if the race could get set up for something coming from off the pace if Ar Mad and Un De Sceaux get silly in front.

Don't laugh but I'm actually considering that old rogue Vibrato Valtat who can look very good on a going day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on December 13, 2016, 02:06:56 AM
Saddened to hear of the death of Walter Swinburn at 55. I remember the day he rode Shergar to victory in the Chester Vase by 12 lengths was the first time I had watched a horse race and thought 'wow that was something special'. Then they won the Derby by 10 lengths and I was hooked.

RIP The Choirboy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on December 19, 2016, 12:32:45 PM
Thistlecrack for King George, who knew?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 19, 2016, 12:55:04 PM
Thistlecrack for King George, who knew?

I'm a little worried the pace of the race will put too much pressure on his jumping and find him out.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 19, 2016, 12:59:39 PM
Thistlecrack for King George, who knew?

I'm a little worried the pace of the race will put too much pressure on his jumping and find him out.

I think that more pace might just help, rather than him dawdling along half asleep.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on December 19, 2016, 03:51:41 PM
Thistlecrack for King George, who knew?

I'm a little worried the pace of the race will put too much pressure on his jumping and find him out.

I hope it does.  Cue Card 6/4. Thistlecrack 13/8 seems madness to me.  Cue Card is absolutely top class over fences.  Thistlecrack might be.  Guess we'll all know for sure in a few days.   

Good to see the connections giving it a go.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 21, 2016, 11:16:35 AM
Here's a lovely piece on Arkle including video clips by Alastair Down:

https://beta.racingpost.com/news/in-depth/lest-we-forget-that-fateful-christmas-half-a-century-ago/269767


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on December 21, 2016, 04:05:02 PM
Would want to be all over cue card for the king George
In a match bet with thistlecrack.

Also think MTOY is a player in the Xmas hurdle.
Yanworth and VVM's best trip is 2 and a half these days
And we know how sharp of a track kempton is. The new one isn't pacy enough
To win this over 2miles but if the ground comes up good
Or not too soft then I can see mtoy running a mighty big race at 11/1
Any thoughts?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2016, 05:05:20 PM
with cue card and thistlecrack taking out 80% of the betting market, the 2/1 Reverse forecast looks ok doesn't it?

i am surprised to see the inexperienced thistlecrack favourite


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on December 21, 2016, 05:44:34 PM
with cue card and thistlecrack taking out 80% of the betting market, the 2/1 Reverse forecast looks ok doesn't it?

i am surprised to see the inexperienced thistlecrack favourite

Was this Betfraud? If so they're now Evens. And if they opened 2-1 heads should roll.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on December 21, 2016, 05:53:09 PM
with cue card and thistlecrack taking out 80% of the betting market, the 2/1 Reverse forecast looks ok doesn't it?

i am surprised to see the inexperienced thistlecrack favourite

Was this Betfraud? If so they're now Evens. And if they opened 2-1 heads should roll.

it did open 2/1 yes. i meant to get on, forgot, forgot again and now you tell me i've missed it :-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on December 21, 2016, 05:59:12 PM
2-1 would be about right for one to beat the other in the right order.

Gotta love these loltraders when they can't copy off the machine.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 21, 2016, 07:56:10 PM
Would want to be all over cue card for the king George
In a match bet with thistlecrack.

Also think MTOY is a player in the Xmas hurdle.
Yanworth and VVM's best trip is 2 and a half these days
And we know how sharp of a track kempton is. The new one isn't pacy enough
To win this over 2miles but if the ground comes up good
Or not too soft then I can see mtoy running a mighty big race at 11/1
Any thoughts?

Agree with you about Cue Card v Thistlecrack although the small field must help the novice somewhat.

I was looking at MTOY being value too but receiving 8lbs and getting well-beaten bt TNO last time has put me off. Tricky race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on December 21, 2016, 08:28:09 PM
Meh Cheltenham is TNO track and the hill and extra furlong helped
And the ground was against MTOY. Nicky has a knack of getting his ready for a big day.
Expecting MTOY to reverse that form


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on December 23, 2016, 02:29:02 PM
No VVM in Xmas hurdle


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 23, 2016, 04:11:22 PM
No VVM in Xmas hurdle

'Weather not good, so Willie decided to keep him home over xmas' - Patrick M


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 23, 2016, 07:48:22 PM
Meanwhile that 12/1 MTOY looks pretty healthy if you took some..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 24, 2016, 08:30:15 PM
I keep looking at Ch'Tibello although some of his best form could be questioned - would probably prefer a drop of rain but I think you could say that about all of them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 24, 2016, 08:43:08 PM
Trigg hungry for action, so I took TC for a bullseye against him, and have backed Identity Thief in the 14:20.

Will probably punt a multiple of some sort on the day, once I see what the weather has done.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on December 27, 2016, 11:10:06 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0oSpgxXAAY1WPe.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 27, 2016, 02:36:26 PM
Can't wait for Cheltenham  ;karabiner;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on December 27, 2016, 02:46:47 PM
Can't wait for Cheltenham  ;karabiner;

Just watched douvan, would have been the huge race if SS had still been in training.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 27, 2016, 03:05:00 PM
Can't wait for Cheltenham  ;karabiner;

Just watched douvan, would have been the huge race if SS had still been in training.

Yeah, I was thinking it's a shame Douvan didn't rock up a year earlier.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 01, 2017, 01:07:00 AM
Many Happy Returns to all of the horses in training.

 ;charmaine;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on January 09, 2017, 10:20:25 AM
Getting ready for Gold Cup day already.......

I've always like Cue Card but......

Based on comments on the other thread, by those much less punty than I, if we are saying that Cue Card didnt run his race on Boxing Day, and he could beat ThistleCrack if they were both on form.....

Is the 20/1 1/5 1,2,3 with Betfairlyfair Sportsalmanac for Cue Card as apposed to the 11/10 for Thistelcrack a max EW bet?

Appreciate reasons if my thinking is flawed. Thanks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 09, 2017, 11:05:30 AM
Getting ready for Gold Cup day already.......

I've always like Cue Card but......

Based on comments on the other thread, by those much less punty than I, if we are saying that Cue Card didnt run his race on Boxing Day, and he could beat ThistleCrack if they were both on form.....

Is the 20/1 1/5 1,2,3 with Betfairlyfair Sportsalmanac for Cue Card as apposed to the 11/10 for Thistelcrack a max EW bet?

Appreciate reasons if my thinking is flawed. Thanks.

Tizzard has said that Cue Card's most likely target is The Ryanair and that Thistlecrack and Native River will go for The Gold Cup.

He doesn't want all three of his big guns in the same race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 09, 2017, 02:05:37 PM
I think Cue Card could be on way out, very difficult in general to perform at top level after operations, and just hasnt looked old self last few runs.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: NigDawG on January 09, 2017, 02:50:07 PM
I think Cue Card could be on way out, very difficult in general to perform at top level after operations, and just hasnt looked old self last few runs.

penultimate run (haydock) been rated as joint career best so that's not strictly true. i don't think he's quite as good on faster ground which it clearly was on boxing day but yes he is now an 11yr old


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 09, 2017, 03:20:26 PM
His performances last season would indicate that he improved for his operations.

That said, he is now 11, as Chris says. Still, I think they should run him in the GC again, as I don't think he wants a drop back in trip on what will likely be decent ground.

On Stuart's question, I'm not sure I'd be max betting anything until they go NRNB :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 09, 2017, 04:03:40 PM


On Stuart's question, I'm not sure I'd be max betting anything until they go NRNB :)

Certainly not maxing it EW


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 09, 2017, 05:34:09 PM
Re Cue card , yes he prob improved straight away after op, but as they get older it can soon wear off, i could be totally wrong but was pretty tame effort v thistlecrack, finished in a heap with the rest of them.
The haydock race beat coneygree that had not raced for a year.....hard to access.
the ground didnt help last time, we will wait and see ......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on January 10, 2017, 02:01:48 PM
http://www.racingpost.com/news/live.sd?event_id=23076124&category=0

Incredible news this.  Thought it was just dog stadiums that were losing around London.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on January 10, 2017, 02:02:22 PM
Kempton Park being sold for Housing, jockey club announces

King George etc going to Sandown


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on January 10, 2017, 02:07:27 PM
All weather track at Newmarket makes a lot of sense though.  Can see why they are doing it.  Will reduce a lot of expenses for Newmarket trainers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 10, 2017, 02:15:14 PM
Chelmsford to get floodlit turf track and casino .


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on January 10, 2017, 02:18:55 PM
In other Baldfred news (he owns Chelmsford racecourse) over half his shops would become loss making and be closed he said if the FOBT's max stake is reduced to £2 a spin according to his 'open letter' to the racing post today on the front page.

Done: high street betting shops under threat
 
BY BILL BARBER 7:27AM 10 JAN 2017
 
BETFRED boss Fred Done has described the increasing pressure on gaming machines as "the biggest single threat to the future of the high street betting shop" he has known in 50 years, with disastrous repercussions for racing.

Done claimed draconian action to limit stakes on the machines, also known as fixed-odds betting terminals or FOBTs, would leave the racing industry irretrievably damaged.

Pressure from politicians and the media over the machines and their alleged link to problem gambling has been mounting and the government last year announced a review examining the subject.

Campaigners have called for the maximum stake on the machines, which is currently £100, to be slashed to as little as £2, a move the betting industry has claimed would lead to thousands of betting shops closing.

In an open letter, Done - who this year celebrates half a century as a bookmaker - said the sector was "under siege because of the moral panic surrounding fixed-odds betting terminals".

Done said social responsibility work done by the industry had struck the right balance between prevention of harm and freedom of choice and questioned whether some of those campaigning against the machines were doing so out of vested interests.

'Balanced and evidence-based'

He also said he hoped the government would not be swayed by the "myths" surrounding the machines.

"Given the huge significance of the issues that are at stake here, the debate concerning the future of FOBTs in high street betting shops should be both balanced and evidence-based," he said.

"And yet recent press coverage in the build up to the Triennial Review has regrettably been categorised by alarmist rhetoric and misleading sound bites."

Done said Betfred had carried out modelling on his then 1,360-strong betting shop estate before the purchase of 322 shops from Ladbrokes and Coral in the autumn.

He said a reduction in gaming machine stakes to £2 would make 660 of those shops loss-making overnight, "resulting in me having to make a decision to close them". Done said that would result in at least 3,300 employees being made redundant.

He added: "This is without doubt the biggest threat to the high street betting shop I have faced during my 50 years in business as a bookmaker."

In my experience recently i saw a punter lose £2400 in a FOBT in my local bald shop over a couple of hours and no staff at any stage approached him about him gambling responsibly.  The Bald one really is an odious individual talking about vested interests!  Why don't you go back to doing what you have a licence to do Bald and actually lay a punter a fair bet to make an honest living rather than living off FOBT's and running a loan shark business which you even offer to your own employees.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 10, 2017, 02:25:40 PM
Im sure the redundancies would be his main concern.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on January 10, 2017, 05:43:53 PM
https://beta.racingpost.com/news/news/done-it-s-a-sector-under-siege-because-of-the-moral-panic-surrounding-fobts/271358

Bald's full open letter.

This is my favourite line.  Why don't you lay a reasonable bet then bald in your shops to anyone who has a clue what they are doing?

Throughout my time as an independent bookmaker it has always been my intention to operate in a way that does not harm or exploit customers who choose to use our shops.

To be balanced he does make some reasonable arguments regarding the Daily Mail style hype stories about churn v losses etc.

The bottom line is you can't realistically play roulette to £2 limits so the FOBT's will effectively just return to being fruit machines if this measure goes through.  They will effectively be banning FOBT's if they reduce the stakes to £2 a spin.  I am surprised a reasonable limit of £25 a spin isn't being discussed.  The vast majority of punters will spin less than £25 a spin so won't be effected.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 10, 2017, 11:49:33 PM
Re Cue card , yes he prob improved straight away after op, but as they get older it can soon wear off, i could be totally wrong but was pretty tame effort v thistlecrack, finished in a heap with the rest of them.
The haydock race beat coneygree that had not raced for a year.....hard to access.
the ground didnt help last time, we will wait and see ......

Timeform gave their view on the King George a week or so ago.

https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/features/ratings-update/ratings-update-christmas-special-29122016 (https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/features/ratings-update/ratings-update-christmas-special-29122016)

Summary, he got a lower rating than Cue Card was on after the betfair (by a pound).  They have now lowered Cue Card by 2 pounds to put him (convenietntly) behind Thistlecrack by a pound.  Thistlecrack is still capable of better still.  They state that rating the King George isn't straightforward.  Cue Card ran below form.  To give Thistlecrack such a high rating, they had to assume Silvianico Conti was as good as his best from the season before and Tea for Two ran a career best.

I expect Cue Card will go for the Ryanair now, but it seems a shame that such a good horse isn't ever going to win a Gold Cup if that happens.  I'd go for it if he was mine, as it really is lkely to be his last chance before time catches up with him.

If I was offered 20/1 with a run vs evens/odds on Thistlecrack, I'd snap their hands off.  Those odds would mean Thistlecrack would win 10 times more often than Cue Card, on the back of one race.  That can't be right.

FWIW I'd love to see Douvan step up and take on Thistlecrack next year.  That could be a great rivalry.

Shame about Kempton, if it does close, but I always much preferred Sandown.  There is an issue in that Sandown and Cheltenham are similar tests albeit one left handed and the other right handed.  Aintree is still there for those that need a flat track.

   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 11, 2017, 01:35:13 PM
Taunton 3.40 is a fairly modest race, im interested in NO NO Cardinal, not even in handicap proper but only by 3lb out has ran ok from similar marks before, back to hurdling for first time in ages and a low mark compared to chase form rating. seems one that doesnt get home too well in races, but Taunton easy track  , could front run too . Still 16/1 with 365 for anyone wanna risk a few quid on a big price one, that could just have a squeak.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 11, 2017, 03:48:13 PM
Taunton 3.40 is a fairly modest race, im interested in NO NO Cardinal, not even in handicap proper but only by 3lb out has ran ok from similar marks before, back to hurdling for first time in ages and a low mark compared to chase form rating. seems one that doesnt get home too well in races, but Taunton easy track  , could front run too . Still 16/1 with 365 for anyone wanna risk a few quid on a big price one, that could just have a squeak.

I'll fire a few shekels on for a sweat.

Cheers, and gl!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 11, 2017, 03:48:43 PM
Also, best wishes to The Don, in retirement.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 11, 2017, 08:08:11 PM
well that was shite. started out the back and stayed there ...... :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 18, 2017, 07:21:54 PM
Getting ready for Gold Cup day already.......

I've always like Cue Card but......

Based on comments on the other thread, by those much less punty than I, if we are saying that Cue Card didnt run his race on Boxing Day, and he could beat ThistleCrack if they were both on form.....

Is the 20/1 1/5 1,2,3 with Betfairlyfair Sportsalmanac for Cue Card as apposed to the 11/10 for Thistelcrack a max EW bet?

Appreciate reasons if my thinking is flawed. Thanks.

It looks as though your monkey EW @20/1 is not in quite as bad shape as it appeared Stu.

https://cheltenham-festival.timeform.com/news-article/cue-card-going-for-gold-at-cheltenham-again-1812017


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 19, 2017, 01:41:48 PM
some e/w thievery races today if anyone still plays em,,,,thurles 12.40  ludlow 1.20 and 4.10, chelms 8.00


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 26, 2017, 08:34:35 PM
delighted to see my bff's Champagne Weston finally won a decent pot today with th Thyestees Chase over at Gowran.

Won in quite taking fashion as it relished the three mile trip and that little bit less pressure on his jumping at that stride slower pace.

Quite whether he is up to Gold Cup class, time will tell, but you can pretty much guarantee that Rogers bullish nature will ensure that is the target. :o


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on January 26, 2017, 09:40:21 PM
delighted to see my bff's Champagne Weston finally won a decent pot today with th Thyestees Chase over at Gowran.

Won in quite taking fashion as it relished the three mile trip and that little bit less pressure on his jumping at that stride slower pace.

Quite whether he is up to Gold Cup class, time will tell, but you can pretty much guarantee that Rogers bullish nature will ensure that is the target. :o

Was very easy, alhough he always looked capable if he stopped clattering fences. Making running seemed to suit him aswell/


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 26, 2017, 10:42:58 PM
Nice to get one over on Elliott, after what happened to Notion last time out.

HDB can definitely get them jumping.

Let us know which way Rog is leaning please, Adz :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 27, 2017, 09:01:40 PM
Really really really(MickFitz) looking forward to tomorrow's spectacular card at Cheltenham with added bonus races - so many fascinating match-ups.

I quite like Wholestone to run well despite it being somewhat surprisingly(to me) being dropped back in trip although the predicted rain won't hurt it's chances imo.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 27, 2017, 09:09:09 PM
Yeah, looking forward to some Cheltenham pointers.

Most looking forward to the Cotswold, and seeing Charli Parcs or DDS again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Simon Galloway on January 28, 2017, 01:34:01 AM
Interesting one in the last at Uttoxeter tomorrow.  Manwell.

Last time out was first time handicapping and appeared to have improved by 3 stone.  It was backed from 20/1 -----> 6/1 and was an armchair ride, watch the race to see just how much it was trotting up.

Anyway, obviously it went in my tracker and it runs again 4:30.  Opened 5/2 everywhere, just a little bit of 9/4 left as I write.  They've put it up 18 lbs, I don't think that's enough to stop it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2017, 10:59:10 AM
Burdened it with my tuppence now, so gl ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 28, 2017, 11:42:04 AM
Yeah, looking forward to some Cheltenham pointers.

Most looking forward to the Cotswold, and seeing Charli Parcs or DDS again.

Charlie Parcs made one hell of an impression LTO.

Strange betting market in that one with CP~evs and DDS 11/8+ - although DDS is clear jolly for the TH.

I wouldn't be surprised if only one of them runs today after reading page#8 in the RP.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2017, 12:23:24 PM
Yeah, looking forward to some Cheltenham pointers.

Most looking forward to the Cotswold, and seeing Charli Parcs or DDS again.

Charlie Parcs made one hell of an impression LTO.

Strange betting market in that one with CP~evs and DDS 11/8+ - although DDS is clear jolly for the TH.

I wouldn't be surprised if only one of them runs today after reading page#8 in the RP.

Think that CP might go supreme, but I backed it in the a/r market so as to get a run.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2017, 12:31:51 PM
Yeah, looking forward to some Cheltenham pointers.

Most looking forward to the Cotswold, and seeing Charli Parcs or DDS again.

Charlie Parcs made one hell of an impression LTO.

Strange betting market in that one with CP~evs and DDS 11/8+ - although DDS is clear jolly for the TH.

I wouldn't be surprised if only one of them runs today after reading page#8 in the RP.

What did the RP say, Ralph?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 28, 2017, 12:37:41 PM
Yeah, looking forward to some Cheltenham pointers.

Most looking forward to the Cotswold, and seeing Charli Parcs or DDS again.

Charlie Parcs made one hell of an impression LTO.

Strange betting market in that one with CP~evs and DDS 11/8+ - although DDS is clear jolly for the TH.

I wouldn't be surprised if only one of them runs today after reading page#8 in the RP.

What did the RP say, Ralph?

It said that CP was the definite runner of the two with DDS unlikely to run but CP would make way for DDS if the ground became heavy.

This was JP's racing manager who finished his statement with "nothing is set in stone though" :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2017, 12:38:40 PM
Yeah, looking forward to some Cheltenham pointers.

Most looking forward to the Cotswold, and seeing Charli Parcs or DDS again.

Charlie Parcs made one hell of an impression LTO.

Strange betting market in that one with CP~evs and DDS 11/8+ - although DDS is clear jolly for the TH.

I wouldn't be surprised if only one of them runs today after reading page#8 in the RP.

What did the RP say, Ralph?

It said that CP was the definite runner of the two with DDS unlikely to run but CP would make way for DDS if the ground became heavy.

This was JP's racing manager who finished his statement with "nothing is set in stone though" :)

Just as I clicked to open CP isn't running.

Guess the ground gotten softer than they'd have liked.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on January 28, 2017, 01:28:59 PM
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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: NigDawG on January 28, 2017, 04:28:48 PM
RIP Many Clouds :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 28, 2017, 04:35:06 PM
Kerrrchinggg

Blind squirrel strikes again :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2017, 04:50:36 PM
Kerrrchinggg

Blind squirrel strikes again :)

 :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2017, 05:16:02 PM
RIP Many Clouds :(

Beautiful animal.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAVok2bNDWs


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on January 28, 2017, 10:11:03 PM
RIP Many Clouds :(

Beautiful animal.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAVok2bNDWs

Love aspell shouting at him on run in, but head on view is brilliant, he just poured it on. Watched the race today a good few times, the way he takes the last summed the horse up, knew exactly what was being asked.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 28, 2017, 11:31:16 PM
Amazing animal, and thought Sherwood gave a great interview later in the afternoon.

Can't imagine how tough it must be for the lads/girls that are with the horses everyday.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 28, 2017, 11:50:54 PM
Amazing animal, and thought Sherwood gave a great interview later in the afternoon.

Can't imagine how tough it must be for the lads/girls that are with the horses everyday.

Undoubtedly toughest of all for the "lad" who's looked after him every day since he was a 4-y-o.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on January 29, 2017, 09:40:51 AM
None of us are jockeys, but does the jockey not realise there is a problem with the horse when riding it? Heartbreaking really.

Also, the race. I backed TC & slightly disappointed with the ride by Scudamore. I'm pretty sure when TC came side by side with MC 2F out he should have just gone on instead of trying to make it look great.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on January 29, 2017, 11:45:19 AM
None of us are jockeys, but does the jockey not realise there is a problem with the horse when riding it? Heartbreaking really.

Also, the race. I backed TC & slightly disappointed with the ride by Scudamore. I'm pretty sure when TC came side by side with MC 2F out he should have just gone on instead of trying to make it look great.

Jockeys get blamed for a lot of things but a horse having a heart attack is a new one on me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on January 29, 2017, 03:09:12 PM
None of us are jockeys, but does the jockey not realise there is a problem with the horse when riding it? Heartbreaking really.

Also, the race. I backed TC & slightly disappointed with the ride by Scudamore. I'm pretty sure when TC came side by side with MC 2F out he should have just gone on instead of trying to make it look great.

He might blame himself, question whether if he hadnt done this or that, but he would be wrong, he had a willing partner, the horse gets back up after being passed how is he supposed to know the horse is not right? If MC gets shortheaded because he decides hes a heartattack risk he would have been blasted.

They got it wrong on TC, whether it was scu or orders, hes still a novice and should have been given more room and not followed horses like conti who jump alot shorter than him. Scu doesnt try to make it look pretty imo, hes concerned the effort TC has put in to get on terms and that hes jumped horrible and that if he goes after him he puts him on the deck. Hes trying to give him a breather, the mistakes that cost him the race were made way earlier.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on January 29, 2017, 03:38:45 PM
delighted to see my bff's Champagne Weston finally won a decent pot today with th Thyestees Chase over at Gowran.

Won in quite taking fashion as it relished the three mile trip and that little bit less pressure on his jumping at that stride slower pace.

Quite whether he is up to Gold Cup class, time will tell, but you can pretty much guarantee that Rogers bullish nature will ensure that is the target. :o

Roger just won the Irish "last man standing" Arkle aswell, doing well with the bromhead connection atm. Race was comedy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on January 29, 2017, 08:51:32 PM
delighted to see my bff's Champagne Weston finally won a decent pot today with th Thyestees Chase over at Gowran.

Won in quite taking fashion as it relished the three mile trip and that little bit less pressure on his jumping at that stride slower pace.

Quite whether he is up to Gold Cup class, time will tell, but you can pretty much guarantee that Rogers bullish nature will ensure that is the target. :o

Roger just won the Irish "last man standing" Arkle aswell, doing well with the bromhead connection atm. Race was comedy.

De Bromhead added that Champagne West is firmly in the Gold Cup picture at Cheltenham, subject to ground conditions.

He said: "We are leaning towards the Gold Cup with Champagne West, but we would want a bit of ease in the ground for him. The handicapper has put him up 12lb to 166, so he is one of the top-rated staying chasers in Ireland now. I think he's entitled to go. He gallops and jumps, so why not?"


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 29, 2017, 09:35:37 PM
Don't worry, he will definitely be there, barring injury.

They smell blood and Roger lives for Cheltenham winners. He hasn't been well this last year, so won't miss this chance to have a legit GC runner.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 30, 2017, 03:10:56 PM
Posted this on TfT, but prob better served here

'bends were dolled out by 16 yds which meant the Cotswold Chase was staged 248 yds further than the advertised dist of 3m 1½f'



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 30, 2017, 05:01:47 PM
Posted this on TfT, but prob better served here

'bends were dolled out by 16 yds which meant the Cotswold Chase was staged 248 yds further than the advertised dist of 3m 1½f'




Not sure it made any difference. I suspect the best horse came second as Scu thought he was on Pegasus. Been a while since TC had a race, and will have done him some good.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 30, 2017, 06:03:34 PM
Posted this on TfT, but prob better served here

'bends were dolled out by 16 yds which meant the Cotswold Chase was staged 248 yds further than the advertised dist of 3m 1½f'




Not sure it made any difference. I suspect the best horse came second as Scu thought he was on Pegasus. Been a while since TC had a race, and will have done him some good.

I agree, best horse got outstayed on sticky ground, over what was probably the GC distance.

Chucked a fiver on Rog's at 100s right after he won the other day, so hopefully he'll be the one upsides TC at the last ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on January 30, 2017, 06:45:28 PM
TC must be value at 15/8 surely?  He has been backed all day long today from 9/4.  He has effectively run over 3miles 4+ given the heavy ground and hasn't jumped well at the last 2 fences mainly because of the going and lost a head to a grand national winner who jumps and stays longer than the mother in law.  Given he was odds on last week i am not really sure how he is now nearly 2/1?   What exactly has he done wrong given that it is a huge price the GC is run on going like last week and he has effectively run further?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 30, 2017, 06:52:02 PM
TC must be value at 15/8 surely?  He has been backed all day long today from 9/4.  He has effectively run over 3miles 4+ given the heavy ground and hasn't jumped well at the last 2 fences mainly because of the going and lost a head to a grand national winner who jumps and stays longer than the mother in law.  Given he was odds on last week i am not really sure how he is now nearly 2/1?   What exactly has he done wrong given that it is a huge price the GC is run on going like last week and he has effectively run further?

He also gave the deck a glasgow kiss at one earlier, too.

Can get 7/4 NRNB if that floats your boat.

As Adz says, it's the first time he's had to properly fight, and MC was probably the toughest horse around.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on January 30, 2017, 06:56:37 PM
and TC was placed in the race around horses that jump significantly less exuberantly than him, eg Silvanaco C. with his lack of experience i think he's a better front runner for now, rather than looking around and snatching at a few?

add that to not quite staying because of the link above and it looks like a decent drift to back to my muggle eyes


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on January 30, 2017, 07:09:37 PM
On good ground at the weekend even with bad jumping he wins going away.  On the flat he was different gear to MC.  The extended distance and going surely combined just got him?  If he won by a neck he would now be a 4/7 shot right?  He lost by the same yet is now 2/1 against a horse that won't be in the race in March.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on January 30, 2017, 11:47:15 PM
TC must be value at 15/8 surely?  He has been backed all day long today from 9/4.  He has effectively run over 3miles 4+ given the heavy ground and hasn't jumped well at the last 2 fences mainly because of the going and lost a head to a grand national winner who jumps and stays longer than the mother in law.  Given he was odds on last week i am not really sure how he is now nearly 2/1?   What exactly has he done wrong given that it is a huge price the GC is run on going like last week and he has effectively run further?

Because MC was beaten 25l when he ran in GC and he basically just run the GC and jumped terrible and got outstayed by a horse that would have been playing for places best case. That run was 15l down on what has been done in the last 2 GC. Theres zero risk in betting TC at 2/1 anyway surely? Hes a name and all the festival only punters will be backing him off the boards on the day. Performance was a gift for punters.

TC lost because of the ground he had to make up at the top turn imo, it gutted him on the surface, hopefully because of the ground and caused by a culmination of his bad jumping putting him there and scudamore panicking that he had gone flat. On good ground and more over a GC on good ground he would have had to make up more ground, against a coneygree or don cossack or even a djakadam on form, he wouldnt catch them like he did MC. The bet assumes he wont jump that shit, based on him getting some schooling, space, on being on ground that more suits his style.

Think you are spot on about the price being massively different if he had won though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on January 31, 2017, 10:05:25 AM
Happier to back Thistlecrack at 7/4 nrnb than I was at 9/4. The great danger was that the Cotswold had bottomed him, that he'd left his Gold Cup there. The money coming suggests he's come out of the race fine, eaten up &c.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on January 31, 2017, 10:25:21 AM
Not sure you see the mark that race may have left until he's pushed as hard in March.

Can't go wrong with 7-4 NRNB though. No way he starts bigger.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on January 31, 2017, 11:47:14 AM
Can't know if the race really has done him in but I certainly wouIdn't want to back him without the money coming first.

If it's the usual Good to Soft (Good in Places) going description, (Goodish ground), what does he start, 6/4 tops with the morning offers, Denise betting it to 98%? The second and third in are old-fashioned boats of the type that used to win pace collapse GCs before the drainage.

Does Tikay have a Paddy or Fred shop on his perambulations?



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 31, 2017, 11:54:13 AM
Can't know if the race really has done him in but I certainly wouIdn't want to back him without the money coming first.

If it's the usual Good to Soft (Good in Places) going description, (Goodish ground), what does he start, 6/4 tops with the morning offers, Denise betting it to 98%? The second and third in are old-fashioned boats of the type that used to win pace collapse GCs before the drainage.

Does Tikay have a Paddy or Fred shop on his perambulations?




No, not on my usual walk.

Tomorrow may be different, though, as I am going up to Manchester & have 4 different places to attend in & around the City Centre, so might see some then.  

PS - We have an active Bet Fred account though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Cavey007 on January 31, 2017, 07:18:59 PM
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/plans-to-bring-horseracing-to-londons-streets/2238185/top/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews

Bit of street racing?!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 06, 2017, 05:14:30 PM
Faugheen and Min miss the festival through injury


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 06, 2017, 06:34:17 PM
Painful for my Min/Douvan/Thistlecrack treble @ >80/1

Be interesting to see if they reroute Yorkhill now, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 06, 2017, 06:48:08 PM
Painful for my Min/Douvan/Thistlecrack treble @ >80/1

Be interesting to see if they reroute Yorkhill now, too.

I was only yesterday looking at betty's CH market and wondering whether to snaffle some 42 about Jezki for a few shekels.

It must be a realistic target now - well it would be if I were the owner.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 06, 2017, 06:53:59 PM
Painful for my Min/Douvan/Thistlecrack treble @ >80/1

Be interesting to see if they reroute Yorkhill now, too.

I was only yesterday looking at betty's CH market and wondering whether to snaffle some 42 about Jezki for a few shekels.

It must be a realistic target now - well it would be if I were the owner.

Harry looks very solid for the World, so if Jezki wins the Red Mills, I imagine there is a chance it will go CH with the other 2.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 07, 2017, 02:07:09 PM
Not taking any chances with Douvan

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3_y9ARWMAE09HO.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 07, 2017, 09:02:48 PM
I wouldnt reroute yorkhill if I owned nichols canyon who has a solid chance based on last years third. Un de sceaux would be a better reroute as hes in no mans land chasing.

Its interesting to see whether yanworth is crocked now as mcmanus allowed B D'air to go back hurdling. Although mcmanus will make it look like an irish handicap and not bat an eyelid. Jezki is a no brainer to run in the CH for connections, you dont mess with horses back from injury.


Backing some of the runners in the irish gold cup to win the gold cup seems a play, most will either run very well or not run in the GC.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 07, 2017, 10:23:49 PM
If Wylie thinks it could be a GC horse, then I can't see them going CH with it.

Hope they don't, because I backed it in a double with Altior as soon as Hendo announced he was going chasing.

Be about par for the course for all my multiples if he does switch it :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: T_Mar on February 07, 2017, 11:11:29 PM
Jezki a big price on bf for CH means unlikely .. 2 in each race for JP seems most likely no?

Harry / Jezki - Stayers
Buvear / Yanworth - CH


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: T_Mar on February 07, 2017, 11:18:59 PM
I also think they'll switch Yorkhill (sorry marky)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 07, 2017, 11:29:08 PM
No need to apologise.

Antepost punting is a risky business ;D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 08, 2017, 10:38:50 AM
according to this from oddschecker, The injury to Faugheen meant over 17% of Cheltenham accas are up in smoke.

http://www.oddschecker.com/tips/horse-racing/cheltenham-festival/20170207-ante-post-punters-left-with-burnt-fingers-after-injury-to-mullins-trio?dcmp=twt83


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 08, 2017, 01:39:26 PM
Will have crushed a lot, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on February 09, 2017, 11:15:11 PM
First time I've a decent few bets for Cheltenham next month. Really fancy Cantlow in the CC too. Anyone any suggestions to throw a couple of £10 double arrows at? Ideally the lesser races


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on February 10, 2017, 10:13:06 AM




Walter Swinburn died in a fall from his bathroom window in what was ruled to be an accident by a coroner’s court on Thursday. Dr Shirley Radcliffe ruled the 55-year-old former jockey, made famous by his association with Shergar, died as the result of head injuries and said there was no evidence he had intended to take his own life.

“She confirmed he had fallen from his bathroom window,” a coroner’s officer reported. “The drop was estimated at about 12 feet and it was into a courtyard. It was confirmed Mr Swinburn suffered from epilepsy but whether or not he had an epileptic fit, which caused him to fall, was not possible to determine.”

Swinburn’s accident occurred at his maisonette in Belgravia, central London, on 12 December. He was found by his father, Wally, a former champion jockey in Ireland, who reportedly had to force an entry into the home after arriving to check on his son’s wellbeing.

One theory, apparently suggested by Wally, is that Swinburn was trying to close the window and may have been rendered unsteady by a recent epileptic fit, causing him to lose his balance. Police and paramedics attended but Swinburn was pronounced dead at the scene.

Swinburn was regarded as perhaps the best big-race jockey of his generation, assisted by an exceptional coolness under pressure. He was 19 when he won the Derby on Shergar by a record 10 lengths and won the race twice more, on Shahrastani and Lammtarra. His other major successes included the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe on All Along and a Breeders’ Cup Turf on Pilsudski.


He was left in a coma for four days after a shocking fall at the start of a race in Hong Kong in 1996, which is thought to have been the cause of his epilepsy. He made three comebacks of various lengths and retired in 2000






Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 10, 2017, 08:34:28 PM
Saw that on SL website, and he must have landed on his head to die from a 12ft drop.





First time I've a decent few bets for Cheltenham next month. Really fancy Cantlow in the CC too. Anyone any suggestions to throw a couple of £10 double arrows at? Ideally the lesser races

I prob won't be backing much else, until the weights come out, so you've saved a few quid by not following anything I've backed already ;D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 11, 2017, 04:43:40 PM
Max bet Altior for the C/C @ 3/1

Get your dough back if Douvan doesn't get injured, and a nice freeroll if he does


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 11, 2017, 04:52:33 PM
Max bet Altior for the C/C @ 3/1

Get your dough back if Douvan doesn't get injured, and a nice freeroll if he does

Wish they would just roll the dice and go h2h but this seems smart. cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 11, 2017, 06:07:05 PM
Max bet Altior for the C/C @ 3/1

Get your dough back if Douvan doesn't get injured, and a nice freeroll if he does

Wish they would just roll the dice and go h2h but this seems smart. cheers

Have to think it goes off less than evens, in the unlikely event he runs.

No chance Hendo goes against Douvan, but you're just losing the interest on your cash for a month.

I'm half hoping Douvan doesn't handle the step up in trip next year, so that we get to see them against each other in the CC.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 11, 2017, 07:04:34 PM
Max bet Altior for the C/C @ 3/1

Get your dough back if Douvan doesn't get injured, and a nice freeroll if he does

Wish they would just roll the dice and go h2h but this seems smart. cheers

Have to think it goes off less than evens, in the unlikely event he runs.

No chance Hendo goes against Douvan, but you're just losing the interest on your cash for a month.

I'm half hoping Douvan doesn't handle the step up in trip next year, so that we get to see them against each other in the CC.

Agreed, and in before ailtor pisses the arkle and spends next season crocked.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 13, 2017, 10:52:42 AM
Max bet Altior for the C/C @ 3/1

Get your dough back if Douvan doesn't get injured, and a nice freeroll if he does


Great suggestion this mate. Should have put it up on TFT. Makes total sense.

BFSP were initially 10/3 now 5/2.

I got a lump on for the Arkle, but the heart would love to see them duel.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on February 13, 2017, 11:12:45 AM
Still no horseplayer on here for ages.

Anyone know how to get in contact? Hope he's ok.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on February 13, 2017, 11:15:06 AM
Still no horseplayer on here for ages.

Anyone know how to get in contact? Hope he's ok.

Not logged on for almost a month.

I have sent him PM's both before & after he last logged on, but no reply.

I asked around, too, folks who know him irl, but drew a blank.

Clearly, there's some sort of problem, as he never had any bad blood or rucks here that I'm aware of.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 13, 2017, 05:02:28 PM
Max bet Altior for the C/C @ 3/1

Get your dough back if Douvan doesn't get injured, and a nice freeroll if he does


Great suggestion this mate. Should have put it up on TFT. Makes total sense.

BFSP were initially 10/3 now 5/2.

I got a lump on for the Arkle, but the heart would love to see them duel.

I haven't got lump on him, but have a few quid from the night Henderson said they were going over fences.

Have als got him in a double with Yorkhill JLT  at #40s, so hopefully Ruby will want the easier race for Yorkhill :)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 13, 2017, 05:03:02 PM
Still no horseplayer on here for ages.

Anyone know how to get in contact? Hope he's ok.

Not logged on for almost a month.

I have sent him PM's both before & after he last logged on, but no reply.

I asked around, too, folks who know him irl, but drew a blank.

Clearly, there's some sort of problem, as he never had any bad blood or rucks here that I'm aware of.

Hopefully he's just super busy with physio, and taking some chill time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 14, 2017, 10:58:25 AM
Last weekend on Oddschecker

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4kiQ2CWcAAE76l.jpg:large)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 14, 2017, 08:18:35 PM
Jezki out until next NH campaign now.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a big priced winner of the CH this time.

Footpad anyone at a working-man's price?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 14, 2017, 08:40:36 PM
Jezki out until next NH campaign now.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a big priced winner of the CH this time.

Footpad anyone at a working-man's price?

Where's that from, Ralph?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 14, 2017, 08:42:53 PM
Jezki out until next NH campaign now.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a big priced winner of the CH this time.

Footpad anyone at a working-man's price?

Where's that from, Ralph?

Saw it on Twitter earlier - Jezki out for the season that is - Footpad winning the CH came to me in a vision :)

I can't seem to find it now - maybe I got whooshed by an old retweet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 14, 2017, 08:49:29 PM
Jezki out until next NH campaign now.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a big priced winner of the CH this time.

Footpad anyone at a working-man's price?

Where's that from, Ralph?

Saw it on Twitter earlier - Jezki out for the season that is - Footpad winning the CH came to me in a vision :)

I can't seem to find it now - maybe I got whooshed by an old retweet.

RP put an article up at 5pm with him in there.

I've got a massive 3 quid on him, so hoping that's not the case :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 14, 2017, 09:16:46 PM
Drifted out on Betty but nothing changed on the F odds boys.

If it keeps drying out i can see me chucking some desperadobucks at the Tent ;ashamed;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 15, 2017, 12:25:50 AM
Jezki out until next NH campaign now.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a big priced winner of the CH this time.

Footpad anyone at a working-man's price?

Where's that from, Ralph?

Saw it on Twitter earlier - Jezki out for the season that is - Footpad winning the CH came to me in a vision :)

I can't seem to find it now - maybe I got whooshed by an old retweet.

RP put an article up at 5pm with him in there.

I've got a massive 3 quid on him, so hoping that's not the case :D

The tweet definitely was there earlier and accredited to JessieH.

Speaking of loose £3 bets - I had one of those on Fabrizio Zanotti a couple of weeks ago @340 in Dubai where he missed the cut - obviously won last week in Kuala Lumpar  :'(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on February 15, 2017, 03:03:58 AM
Something away from Cheltenham, but this picture ban at Fred, Lads & Corals is getting a little tedious now. Ladbrokes often are unable to show races that aren't affected on their app & I have no idea why. I don't really understand how it's all gone on so long & it looks as if nothing will be happening anytime soon.

Hills & Co have paid it, it surely can't be that bad. But the response I've heard is that it's turning profit into loss on racing, what a joke. Needs sorting.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on February 15, 2017, 10:02:50 AM
Something away from Cheltenham, but this picture ban at Fred, Lads & Corals is getting a little tedious now. Ladbrokes often are unable to show races that aren't affected on their app & I have no idea why. I don't really understand how it's all gone on so long & it looks as if nothing will be happening anytime soon.

Hills & Co have paid it, it surely can't be that bad. But the response I've heard is that it's turning profit into loss on racing, what a joke. Needs sorting.

UK Racing is getting more and more expensive for BETTING SHOPS to show given how it is priced.  At the same time UK racing is becoming less and less important to a betting shops bottom line as they don't want to take bets on horse racing from the vast majority of their bigger staking customers.  These firms as businesses are, quite rightly, experimenting if it is worth paying the additional premium for these pictures by playing a game of cat and mouse and seeing if their bottom line in their shops actually falls if they don't have the pictures.  Given the majority of punters who go into a betting shop nowadays don't even bet on horses i think this could be very damaging to racing longer term valuing their product and pricing it out of the market.  UK racing just doesn't have the power it used to have 20 years ago over betting firms.  The game has changed.

What punter actually sits in a betting shop now of any size and struggles to get his bets on day after day constantly being phoned up BTL etc etc when you can sit at home watching all the racing on your TV, live stream via your laptop after placing a bet?  If you can get on for 3 figures in a betting shop you will be able to get on much easier on line long term in the comfort of the pub via your phone/laptop at home etc and get to see the pictures.  Why would you ever go into a shop as a casual decent staking punter and risk getting robbed with all the cash you are holding day in day out?  Makes no sense at all which is why horse racing in betting shops is a dying product and the firms don't want to pay a premium for a product they consider risky/loss leader to other 'risk free' products like fobt's/too much quantity not enough quality day in day out which increases corruption in the sport which, in turn, effects their bottom line.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nellberg on February 15, 2017, 10:18:20 AM
Something away from Cheltenham, but this picture ban at Fred, Lads & Corals is getting a little tedious now. Ladbrokes often are unable to show races that aren't affected on their app & I have no idea why. I don't really understand how it's all gone on so long & it looks as if nothing will be happening anytime soon.

Hills & Co have paid it, it surely can't be that bad. But the response I've heard is that it's turning profit into loss on racing, what a joke. Needs sorting.

As far as i'm aware, the company who have the rights to the 7 racecourses that they can't show at the minute will take over all the pictures as of next Jan 1st. Hard-ball now, get cheaper pictures then. Given the courses involved are pretty low-grade fair it could continue till the 1st decent meeting at Donny, possibly all the way through to the Leger.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 15, 2017, 11:12:10 AM
The Grand National weights are now available to view on Racing Post racecards > http://bit.ly/2lelFqU

any early thoughts?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tonibell on February 15, 2017, 11:52:19 AM
Only a reminder that now the weights are published some of these boats will show their hand in the Haydock trial on Saturday. Posssibly in the Eider on the 25th. And certainly in the Grimthorpe on the first Saturday in March (Last Samuri and Druid's Nephew one-two last year).

And the last five winners went off 25, 23, 33, 33, and 66-1. ;-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on February 15, 2017, 12:42:27 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4s76HyWAAACxoU.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Rosjim on February 15, 2017, 02:23:15 PM
The Grand National weights are now available to view on Racing Post racecards > http://bit.ly/2lelFqU

any early thoughts?

Might have a bit on the last samurai  early when it's non runner no bet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 15, 2017, 04:42:07 PM
3.40 Towcester.

1-10, 7-2, 8-1, 12-1, 20-1, 25-1, 25-1, 100-1.

144% for an eight-runner race. This is ok?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on February 15, 2017, 04:45:26 PM
3.40 Towcester.

1-10, 7-2, 8-1, 12-1, 20-1, 25-1, 25-1, 100-1.

144% for an eight-runner race. This is ok?

bfex sp of the 2nd in!  16.0.  3rd in 43.0!  bf ex place prices 1.31 and 1.83.  Can't really blame them. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 15, 2017, 04:51:40 PM
The Grand National weights are now available to view on Racing Post racecards > http://bit.ly/2lelFqU

any early thoughts?

I backed Don Slowly, when Elliott said that he would be targeted there, and directed a freebie to old favourite Highland Lodge.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 15, 2017, 04:53:14 PM
Pretty irrelevant, though, as you can't get EW bets on these races anywhere.

Online accounts killed if you dare try, shops tell you to gtfo. Literally. I tried it last week.

They wonder why nobody wants to bet on horses now? Perhaps when they walk in a shop and see 1-10 Fav beats 7-2 shot, 8 ran, it puts them off a bit?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on February 15, 2017, 04:57:44 PM
Pretty irrelevant, though, as you can't get EW bets on these races anywhere.

Online accounts killed if you dare try, shops tell you to gtfo. Literally. I tried it last week.

They wonder why nobody wants to bet on horses now? Perhaps when they walk in a shop and see 1-10 Fav beats 7-2 shot, 8 ran, it puts them off a bit?

I'm the last person to defend bookmakers usually, but what are they supposed to do in this spot?

Separate win and place books is the only solution. Works very well in Australia.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 15, 2017, 05:15:26 PM
The second-fav was available at 5-1+ all day.

Jebs was 20-1+ across the board.

Both were pretty close to the EW market on the machine.

Literally every horse shortened when the opening show came through and there's no way the on-course boys at Towcester would have been laying EW bets.

Obv the Fodds bridge can't give it away but they're not screwing high rollers here, just the average shop punter.

Things improved a while back after the RP did a feature on it, but they soon slipped back into their old ways.

It's unacceptable to have a 144% overround in an eight-runner race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on February 15, 2017, 05:23:16 PM
The second-fav was available at 5-1+ all day.

Jebs was 20-1+ across the board.

Both were pretty close to the EW market on the machine.

Literally every horse shortened when the opening show came through and there's no way the on-course boys at Towcester would have been laying EW bets.

Obv the Fodds bridge can't give it away but they're not screwing high rollers here, just the average shop punter.

Things improved a while back after the RP did a feature on it, but they soon slipped back into their old ways.

It's unacceptable to have a 144% overround in an eight-runner race.

144% win overround and  279% place book even with a 144% overround.  For the average ew punter he will do less money long term having an ew bet here over the two bets than he would in an 11 runner hcap with a win book sp of 122% (2% a runner).

It looks ugly when it actually isn't as bad as it looks as long as you are betting ew which every punter would be in this race.

Do what camel says and just win only on the race or just scrap any race like this from the schedule where the jolly is 1/10 and has a bad ew make up.  It isn't good for the punters or bookmakers and it isn't good for turnover/levy payments either for racing.  Lose lose situation PR wise.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on February 16, 2017, 12:14:48 AM
I meant to post this the other day, but forgot.

Anyway Native's River reminded me the Timeform had dropped Thistlecrack in the wake of his defeat by Many Clouds.  It isn't really that surprising, as if you take away Cue Card, the form doesn't amount to much.  I know it was said elsewhere that he had performed brilliantly, but hard to say that on bare form.

Anyway Timefom on Thistlecrack and his drop to 175p from 180p

https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/features/ratings-update/ratings-update-clouds-bows-out-with-career-best-3012017. (https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/features/ratings-update/ratings-update-clouds-bows-out-with-career-best-3012017.)

They also dropped Cue Card from 179 to 173+ some time since the King George, presumably on collateral form with Thistlecrack.  Under old Tiemform rules, they would still be both around 180, as the rating used to reflect the best the horse had achieved, until they had clearly declined.  Though you could argue Thistlecrack's rating is all over the place, Cue Card has several races where they have rated him higher.

Of more interest is that Native River is still only rated 167p.

https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/features/ratings-update/ratings-update-betfair-hero-ballyandy-the-big-mover-1322017 (https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/features/ratings-update/ratings-update-betfair-hero-ballyandy-the-big-mover-1322017)

I know he has the p, but that puts a whole load of horses higher than him and he is a stone behind the ratings they gave Cue Card after the Betfair Chase and Thistlecrack after the King George.  Not sure I'd have More of That as his equal for instance!

Blacklion 33/1 and Cause of Causes 40/1 for the National fwiw.  But early days.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 16, 2017, 01:12:06 AM
We'll find out in a month  ;cheerleader;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on February 16, 2017, 01:22:20 AM
Blacklion 33/1 and Cause of Causes 40/1 for the National fwiw.  But early days.

I became a bit of a fan of CoC when it won at Cheltenham(?) last year. But I have seen it run a few times after and it's off the bridle so early, seems to be always under pressure & ran a stinker in the national last year. I'd love to agree with you about CoC, but I can't understand it, a VERY frustrating horse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on February 16, 2017, 09:35:39 AM
Blacklion 33/1 and Cause of Causes 40/1 for the National fwiw.  But early days.

I became a bit of a fan of CoC when it won at Cheltenham(?) last year. But I have seen it run a few times after and it's off the bridle so early, seems to be always under pressure & ran a stinker in the national last year. I'd love to agree with you about CoC, but I can't understand it, a VERY frustrating horse.

Just long range darts.  Trying to find something well weighted on its best form.  Even more punty is O Faolain's Boy  (40/1) that hasn't even run this year (but goes Saturday vs Saphir Du Rhea over just short of 3m).

I blame Tighty, I wasn't going to bother looking.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 16, 2017, 11:44:16 AM
Blacklion 33/1 and Cause of Causes 40/1 for the National fwiw.  But early days.

I became a bit of a fan of CoC when it won at Cheltenham(?) last year. But I have seen it run a few times after and it's off the bridle so early, seems to be always under pressure & ran a stinker in the national last year. I'd love to agree with you about CoC, but I can't understand it, a VERY frustrating horse.

Just long range darts.  Trying to find something well weighted on its best form.  Even more punty is O Faolain's Boy  (40/1) that hasn't even run this year (but goes Saturday vs Saphir Du Rhea over just short of 3m).

I blame Tighty, I wasn't going to bother looking.


Saphir out today, so you wont be getting that match up.

I think Jonjo holds the key. Thought More of That looked right back to form on Sunday, despite his fall, and immediately grabbed some 50s for GC, but by implication I should back him for the National, if I think he can win a GC.

Carlingford Lock looks to be screaming out for as far as possible and Im astounded he is 33-1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 16, 2017, 11:54:18 AM
Ucello Conti seems to be well-treated and stays forever - 25/1 looks okay.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on February 16, 2017, 07:53:12 PM
Blacklion 33/1 and Cause of Causes 40/1 for the National fwiw.  But early days.

I became a bit of a fan of CoC when it won at Cheltenham(?) last year. But I have seen it run a few times after and it's off the bridle so early, seems to be always under pressure & ran a stinker in the national last year. I'd love to agree with you about CoC, but I can't understand it, a VERY frustrating horse.

Just long range darts.  Trying to find something well weighted on its best form.  Even more punty is O Faolain's Boy  (40/1) that hasn't even run this year (but goes Saturday vs Saphir Du Rhea over just short of 3m).

I blame Tighty, I wasn't going to bother looking.


Saphir out today, so you wont be getting that match up.

I think Jonjo holds the key. Thought More of That looked right back to form on Sunday, despite his fall, and immediately grabbed some 50s for GC, but by implication I should back him for the National, if I think he can win a GC.

Carlingford Lock looks to be screaming out for as far as possible and Im astounded he is 33-1.

To be fair, you have probably thought about this better than me.  Rather than worrying about whether Native River is underated, you should be backing the horse rated the same at ten times the price. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 18, 2017, 03:24:25 PM
Jezki out until next NH campaign now.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a big priced winner of the CH this time.

Footpad anyone at a working-man's price?


Where's that from, Ralph?

Saw it on Twitter earlier - Jezki out for the season that is - Footpad winning the CH came to me in a vision :)

I can't seem to find it now - maybe I got whooshed by an old retweet.

RP put an article up at 5pm with him in there.

I've got a massive 3 quid on him, so hoping that's not the case :D

The tweet definitely was there earlier and accredited to JessieH.

Speaking of loose £3 bets - I had one of those on Fabrizio Zanotti a couple of weeks ago @340 in Dubai where he missed the cut - obviously won last week in Kuala Lumpar  :'(

Jezki runs today. (2m hurdle aswell)

Had a bit of a punt on sceau royal for the CH (aswel as cyrius darius) thinking hes lighter campaigned and may run better for not having loads of runs on bad ground but then hes running today so seems all on today whether the bets any value. Had a bit ew on royal caviar whos 6th in the market in arkle, but looked like he had the 7th well held before falling previous and altiors prob scares off most of them off.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 18, 2017, 04:23:36 PM
3 miles for Jezki it is.

Yanworth seems like the kid that needs nagging by the teacher to do his work.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 18, 2017, 04:57:09 PM
Sceau Royal flatters to deceive again - jumps and travels so well and still ends up beaten - wouldn't surprise me to see him win a big 'un one day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 18, 2017, 05:33:13 PM
Should be a good spectacle, if not a great renewal.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 18, 2017, 07:58:44 PM
3 miles for Jezki it is.

Yanworth seems like the kid that needs nagging by the teacher to do his work.


Yanworth would be a knocking bet in the Stayers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 18, 2017, 09:26:50 PM
3 miles for Jezki it is.

Yanworth seems like the kid that needs nagging by the teacher to do his work.


Yanworth would be a knocking bet in the Stayers

Everyday 8/1 NRNB


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on February 19, 2017, 10:37:16 PM
There is an AP McCoy film on BBC2 starting at 10.  Going to likely miss the first half but it should be good.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on February 21, 2017, 04:18:31 AM
There is an AP McCoy film on BBC2 starting at 10.  Going to likely miss the first half but it should be good.

Enjoy it? I was disappointed by it if I'm honest. It just seemed to go round in a loop of AP talks retirement, gets injured, talks retirement for an hour and half.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on February 21, 2017, 09:50:49 AM
There is an AP McCoy film on BBC2 starting at 10.  Going to likely miss the first half but it should be good.

Enjoy it? I was disappointed by it if I'm honest. It just seemed to go round in a loop of AP talks retirement, gets injured, talks retirement for an hour and half.

Sorry, haven't seen any of it yet.  Missed my train connection.   I was going to catch up on iplayer.  Is it still worth watching or just skip to the end?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on February 21, 2017, 11:41:43 AM
There is an AP McCoy film on BBC2 starting at 10.  Going to likely miss the first half but it should be good.

Enjoy it? I was disappointed by it if I'm honest. It just seemed to go round in a loop of AP talks retirement, gets injured, talks retirement for an hour and half.

Sorry, haven't seen any of it yet.  Missed my train connection.   I was going to catch up on iplayer.  Is it still worth watching or just skip to the end?

I only caught the last half hour. Not worth skipping to IMO. Seemed a victory of "emotional context over substance" to me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 21, 2017, 04:02:36 PM
There is an AP McCoy film on BBC2 starting at 10.  Going to likely miss the first half but it should be good.

Enjoy it? I was disappointed by it if I'm honest. It just seemed to go round in a loop of AP talks retirement, gets injured, talks retirement for an hour and half.

Sorry, haven't seen any of it yet.  Missed my train connection.   I was going to catch up on iplayer.  Is it still worth watching or just skip to the end?

I watched it a while back, and thought it was interesting.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ForthThistle on February 21, 2017, 06:54:43 PM
Thistlecrack now out.

Im cancelling the weeks Holiday.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on February 23, 2017, 01:24:20 AM
I am not sure how people feel, but this years Cheltenham feels very underwhelming. The loss of TC this week just adds to the disappointment of losing other good horses. I can't see I am really looking foward to it like previous years & I can't imagine what the the festival would be like if Douvan gets injured.

In other racing news, not seen much mentioned about Apple Jade/Limini race today. Limini eased to a win, whilst Apple jade lost from what I believe to be another poor front running ride.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 23, 2017, 01:31:42 AM
While it's disappointing to lose some of the prominent horses, it should make for some very interesting renewals.

I'll be starting to pack for the airport in a fortnight, and can't wait to get plotted up for the week.

If Douvan gets injured, you'll have a much more competitive Champion Chase.

Might have won a bit too well for my liking, as I backed it for the mares a while back.

I know that they've always thought very, very highly of Limini.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on February 23, 2017, 05:29:06 PM
Walsh good ride rather than cooper bad for me, 2m4f in mud with a challenge for the lead probably did for her but she was beaten 2l and walsh tactics looked to avoid the fight, which is easier in ireland than cheltenham. OThers well beaten suggesting he didnt get it that wrong.

ailtor, harry and douvan can still be anything and so many nice novices in ireland. Quite looking forward to triumph and seeing what mcmanus does with all these prospects.

The stories are what make cheltenham where the little stables or owners beat the odds for the dreamers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on February 23, 2017, 05:42:02 PM
Do you get Rule 4 deductions on NRNB selections?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 23, 2017, 06:49:20 PM
Do you get Rule 4 deductions on NRNB selections?

Not that I've ever known.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on February 23, 2017, 07:57:08 PM
Do you get Rule 4 deductions on NRNB selections?

Not that I've ever known.

Think it depends on rules, particularly close to race.  Think some go to day of race market a day or two early and apply deductions.  Don't think anyone is for cheltenham yet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 23, 2017, 09:33:20 PM
Just had a tally up, and I'm down 40pts before the festival starts :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on February 26, 2017, 11:40:59 PM
Been wanting to click the button on Walsh being top jockey for days now & just my luck having left it too late now Gerraghty has got injured and is out of Cheltenham


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 27, 2017, 01:07:04 AM
Camping Ground was mighty impressive today and there's still bits of 33/1 for the Coral Cup which seems the obvious target.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 01, 2017, 08:34:02 PM
Camping Ground was mighty impressive today and there's still bits of 33/1 for the Coral Cup which seems the obvious target.

Don't think he's going to Cheltenham, from what Moore said.

https://livestream.com/accounts/37624/events/7031763

Gravy train preview starting in a minute.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 01, 2017, 08:39:58 PM
Camping Ground was mighty impressive today and there's still bits of 33/1 for the Coral Cup which seems the obvious target.

Don't think he's going to Cheltenham, from what Moore said.

https://livestream.com/accounts/37624/events/7031763

Gravy train preview starting in a minute.

I read the article where GM says he'd like to save him for Aintree but I also read another previously saying the owner is keen on the stayers' but GM thinks that's a little too far for him. I'm obviously hoping(me and my 33/1 voucher that is) that they reach a compromise and go for the Coral as CG does like Chelters as do we all. Only twelve sleeps to go now..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 02, 2017, 03:58:00 AM
Camping Ground was mighty impressive today and there's still bits of 33/1 for the Coral Cup which seems the obvious target.

Don't think he's going to Cheltenham, from what Moore said.

https://livestream.com/accounts/37624/events/7031763

Gravy train preview starting in a minute.

I read the article where GM says he'd like to save him for Aintree but I also read another previously saying the owner is keen on the stayers' but GM thinks that's a little too far for him. I'm obviously hoping(me and my 33/1 voucher that is) that they reach a compromise and go for the Coral as CG does like Chelters as do we all. Only twelve sleeps to go now..

I've had a pony on Peregrine Run @ 12/1 in that.

My adventure starts a couple days earlier, as I'm off to Gatwick on Sunday afternoon, and flying first thing Monday  ;yippee;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 02, 2017, 09:03:59 AM
Camping Ground was mighty impressive today and there's still bits of 33/1 for the Coral Cup which seems the obvious target.

Don't think he's going to Cheltenham, from what Moore said.

https://livestream.com/accounts/37624/events/7031763

Gravy train preview starting in a minute.

I read the article where GM says he'd like to save him for Aintree but I also read another previously saying the owner is keen on the stayers' but GM thinks that's a little too far for him. I'm obviously hoping(me and my 33/1 voucher that is) that they reach a compromise and go for the Coral as CG does like Chelters as do we all. Only twelve sleeps to go now..

I've had a pony on Peregrine Run @ 12/1 in that.

My adventure starts a couple days earlier, as I'm off to Gatwick on Sunday afternoon, and flying first thing Monday  ;yippee;


Raise.

Flying to Vegas Saturday for a Concrete Machinery Exhibition next week, and decided to stay over for a couple of weeks, and will watch Chelts there. Proper week of degeneracy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2017, 11:07:49 AM
Camping Ground was mighty impressive today and there's still bits of 33/1 for the Coral Cup which seems the obvious target.

Don't think he's going to Cheltenham, from what Moore said.

https://livestream.com/accounts/37624/events/7031763

Gravy train preview starting in a minute.

I read the article where GM says he'd like to save him for Aintree but I also read another previously saying the owner is keen on the stayers' but GM thinks that's a little too far for him. I'm obviously hoping(me and my 33/1 voucher that is) that they reach a compromise and go for the Coral as CG does like Chelters as do we all. Only twelve sleeps to go now..

I've had a pony on Peregrine Run @ 12/1 in that.

My adventure starts a couple days earlier, as I'm off to Gatwick on Sunday afternoon, and flying first thing Monday  ;yippee;


Raise.

Flying to Vegas Saturday for a Concrete Machinery Exhibition next week, and decided to stay over for a couple of weeks, and will watch Chelts there. Proper week of degeneracy.

Life don't get better than that, I'm insanely jealous.






Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 02, 2017, 11:08:31 AM
do the vegas sportsbooks show Cheltenham?

if not how do you watch it?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 02, 2017, 11:51:05 AM
do the vegas sportsbooks show Cheltenham?

if not how do you watch it?


ConExpo- For Tikay.


Doubt a Sportsbook would show, but RUK downloaded onto laptop/Modbro. 4G on phone allows access to betting sites over there, so bar the atmosphere, and getting up at 5.30am to watch it, all angles covered.

Will miss being there for sure, but a lot of my regular crowd have started bring their kids(yound adults) along for a couple of the days. Great socially, but for the the purist not so good, as you miss market moves etc.

Will be interesting.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 02, 2017, 11:55:37 AM
I am guessing you can watch at the wynn sportsbook.  I watched bits of Ascot there.  You need to get up early and there is no guarantee of a commentary, so you need to know your colours.   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 02, 2017, 12:28:37 PM
I am guessing you can watch at the wynn sportsbook.  I watched bits of Ascot there.  You need to get up early and there is no guarantee of a commentary, so you need to know your colours.   


Even better, as staying there.

Cheers Doobs.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: rinswun on March 02, 2017, 01:08:23 PM
For the second year in a row I'll be watching Cheltenham from the warm surrounds of Perth, Australia. 22:30 - 02:30 with a few bottles of VB and Little Creatures. Already got more than the trip cost me laid out in ante-post bets so hopefully it'll be another profitable festival and the trip will pay for itself. Cantlow and On The Fringe the big winners for me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on March 02, 2017, 01:18:39 PM
As a ladies man ill be at chelters on ladies day. No ante post bets, no idea but excited all the same


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 02, 2017, 01:54:49 PM
Camping Ground was mighty impressive today and there's still bits of 33/1 for the Coral Cup which seems the obvious target.

Don't think he's going to Cheltenham, from what Moore said.

https://livestream.com/accounts/37624/events/7031763

Gravy train preview starting in a minute.

I read the article where GM says he'd like to save him for Aintree but I also read another previously saying the owner is keen on the stayers' but GM thinks that's a little too far for him. I'm obviously hoping(me and my 33/1 voucher that is) that they reach a compromise and go for the Coral as CG does like Chelters as do we all. Only twelve sleeps to go now..

I've had a pony on Peregrine Run @ 12/1 in that.

My adventure starts a couple days earlier, as I'm off to Gatwick on Sunday afternoon, and flying first thing Monday  ;yippee;


Raise.

Flying to Vegas Saturday for a Concrete Machinery Exhibition next week, and decided to stay over for a couple of weeks, and will watch Chelts there. Proper week of degeneracy.

Very nice.

Enjoy, and I wish you a double dose of luck!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 02, 2017, 01:56:20 PM
I am guessing you can watch at the wynn sportsbook.  I watched bits of Ascot there.  You need to get up early and there is no guarantee of a commentary, so you need to know your colours.   


Even better, as staying there.

Cheers Doobs.

I couldn't find it in my room, but if you go down to the sportsbook there are a whole bunch of sports channels you can scroll through.  I guess you'd be able to plug some headphones in somewhere though i never tried.  From memory you also get to watch all the crappy uk racing too, so if you have anything going at Catterick, you'll get to see that too. 

When I was there, they had trotting on the big screen.  No idea if they will switch for you.  Guess it is possible, as there weren't many people there.  Though guess you'd have to bet at crap prices in return. 

Other upside is that the buffet queue isn't so bad at 8 if you have caught most of the decent races.  Not sure if the sportsbook has moved, but the cafe used to be next door if you want coffee, pastries etc.  Sure you can see market moves on your phone too, though I wouldn't be in a rush to try and bet on uk sites from there.  Guess most will stop you anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on March 02, 2017, 05:32:17 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/39138663

Interesting concept.  Not sure how its going to work.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Skippy on March 03, 2017, 10:08:16 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/39138663

Interesting concept.  Not sure how its going to work.

This struck me as being a bit like "Happy Wednesdays" in Hong Kong- they have a disco and a band that plays between the races and there is a lot of emphasis on selling you a hot dog, and less on the actual racing. It works great- I wonder what the horses make of it- they must hear the music in the stables, but then I wonder what the horses make of running around a field surrounded by skyscrapers.

The difference is that Happy Wednesday racing is basement stuff, not Royal Ascot.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 03, 2017, 10:19:40 PM
Off to LV tomorrow, but thought I would just pop a few fancies down for Chelts

Very pleased to hear Hendo confirm Consul Du Thaix for the Coral Cup.

Have got some nice prices on West Approach for Potato race, Auvergnat for Cross Country, and Champers on Ice for Ultima(Pipe not even talking about it though. Who knows with him)

A "friend" has a small syndicate share in Imperial Eloquance, who could surprise in the Bumper. ;)

Would love to see Traffic Fluide run in the Grand Annual.

Have a great Fest and GL.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 03, 2017, 10:24:19 PM
Have a good trip mate!

Good luck with any that I'm on, and hope you get place money on the others ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 03, 2017, 10:43:14 PM
Have a good trip mate!

Good luck with any that I'm on, and hope you get place money on the others ;)


Cheers Bud. You too.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 04, 2017, 02:47:02 PM
I've been meaning to mention this for a while now but I don't get all the love for Ed Chamberlin and his children's TV style of presenting.

Nick Luck is in a completely different league as far as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on March 04, 2017, 03:04:34 PM
Vetrans race 205 newbury, looks open but anyone else think if Katenko could regain bit of form, (not really been same since fall ages ago), could be well in here at the weights, ??  ......or just past it now/


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 04, 2017, 03:12:40 PM
I've been meaning to mention this for a while now but I don't get all the love for Ed Chamberlin and his children's TV style of presenting.

Nick Luck is in a completely different league as far as I'm concerned.

I think he's good, but preferred him on MNF, and agree that Nick Luck is diff gear.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on March 04, 2017, 03:16:42 PM
the old boys went off a bit fast, katenkos jumping let him down again, great run from just a par, only 2 seasons ago was watching harry cobden in points ......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 04, 2017, 03:19:06 PM
the old boys went off a bit fast, katenkos jumping let him down again, great run from just a par, only 2 seasons ago was watching harry cobden in points ......

Yeah, great run.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 04, 2017, 03:43:15 PM
the old boys went off a bit fast, katenkos jumping let him down again, great run from just a par, only 2 seasons ago was watching harry cobden in points ......

Yeah, great run.

Like the horse, had dismissed him as being best on good ground, always run his best race at sandown at the end of the season. Looks decent for the national as long it isnt a bog again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 05, 2017, 09:02:03 PM
Great field looked very impressive in ireland today bar the last couple where the jockey took over being impressive. This festival too early but looks one with a big future.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 05, 2017, 09:03:39 PM
Great field looked very impressive in ireland today bar the last couple where the jockey took over being impressive. This festival too early but looks one with a big future.

Yeah, did it very easily, and he did ridiculously well to stay on.

Back to the drawing board with IT, at least until next year, you'd think.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 05, 2017, 09:16:06 PM
Great field looked very impressive in ireland today bar the last couple where the jockey took over being impressive. This festival too early but looks one with a big future.

Yeah, did it very easily, and he did ridiculously well to stay on.

Back to the drawing board with IT, at least until next year, you'd think.

Looks like hes lost confidence and that makes 2m chases impossible. Back to hurdles for a couple would be the option.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 05, 2017, 09:24:26 PM
Great field looked very impressive in ireland today bar the last couple where the jockey took over being impressive. This festival too early but looks one with a big future.

Yeah, did it very easily, and he did ridiculously well to stay on.

Back to the drawing board with IT, at least until next year, you'd think.

Looks like hes lost confidence and that makes 2m chases impossible. Back to hurdles for a couple would be the option.


Yeah, would look the plan. Still, at least he's with a trainer that should be able to sort the horse out, given time.

I had a score on it for the Arkle NRNB before the race, purely as a freeroll if it hosed up. At least that's a few quid I can't lose until after the festival ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 06, 2017, 05:48:14 PM
Final Furlong boys doing a preview tonight. Think it's live on ATR website, or ATR Facebook page.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 06, 2017, 07:03:35 PM
Final Furlong boys doing a preview tonight. Think it's live on ATR website, or ATR Facebook page.


Final Furlong boys doing a preview tonight. Think it's live on ATR website, or ATR Facebook page.



facebook link here

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6QN_eXWcAExTmv.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 06, 2017, 07:23:08 PM
Cheers Tighty.

http://cheltenham.attheraces.com/

https://www.facebook.com/AtTheRaces/

That's hopefully it, for anyone that wants to watch.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Newportlad on March 06, 2017, 08:39:35 PM
I have 3 x £25 freebets which expire tonight to use on Horse Racing.

Any thoughts on what i should use them on?  Cheltenham seems the obvious answer, but any race before hand is also good.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 06, 2017, 08:56:04 PM
Holywell for the Ultima.

Champers on Ice for the NH Chase.

Peregrine Run for the Coral Cup.

Those are 3 you should probably avoid, as I've backed them all ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on March 06, 2017, 08:56:41 PM
Looking for thoights on the FoxHunter. OTF has been backed in heavily over the last few weeks & lots of podcasts and pundits I've heard have this as the NAP of the festival.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 06, 2017, 08:59:03 PM
Looking for thoights on the FoxHunter. OTF has been backed in heavily over the last few weeks & lots of podcasts and pundits I've heard have this as the NAP of the festival.

Much better prep run than last year, so I can see why it has been hammered in.

I backed it for the race straight after the festival in March, as it only has one target, and you haven't got to play multi race bingo.

You'll hear lots of naps, from lots of pundits. I'd sooner go on the hunt for horses that haven't been mentioned.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 07, 2017, 11:43:01 PM
Betbright preview was funny.

All absolutely walloped :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 08, 2017, 03:00:35 AM
Holywell for the Ultima.

Champers on Ice for the NH Chase.

Peregrine Run for the Coral Cup.

Those are 3 you should probably avoid, as I've backed them all ;D


Surely they don't waste such a good mark with Champers  by going for the NHC?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on March 08, 2017, 11:00:57 AM
the ATR preview is now on you tube

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi5AZGWDUlw


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 08, 2017, 12:16:09 PM
Holywell for the Ultima.

Champers on Ice for the NH Chase.

Peregrine Run for the Coral Cup.

Those are 3 you should probably avoid, as I've backed them all ;D


Surely they don't waste such a good mark with Champers  by going for the NHC?

I've backed it for both, but more money has been coming for the other race, it appeared.

We'll find out in a few days :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 08, 2017, 02:32:35 PM
Limini not supplemented. That's a bonus.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 08, 2017, 06:35:39 PM
Limini not supplemented. That's a bonus.

Well that's one of my bets that didn't lose - was quite happy with the 8/1 nrnb though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 08, 2017, 06:49:50 PM
Limini not supplemented. That's a bonus.

Well that's one of my bets that didn't lose - was quite happy with the 8/1 nrnb though.

I've got a score on her @ 14/1 for the Mares.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 08, 2017, 07:30:24 PM
Limini not supplemented. That's a bonus.

Well that's one of my bets that didn't lose - was quite happy with the 8/1 nrnb though.

I've got a score on her @ 14/1 for the Mares.

Happy to break even for the greater good ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 08, 2017, 07:53:47 PM
Limini not supplemented. That's a bonus.

Well that's one of my bets that didn't lose - was quite happy with the 8/1 nrnb though.

I've got a score on her @ 14/1 for the Mares.

Happy to break even for the greater good ;)

;D

Not sure what they'll do with VVM, as I can't see Ruby wanting them in the same race.


Title: Re: Racing Th
Post by: JohnCharver on March 08, 2017, 11:30:36 PM
Limini not supplemented. That's a bonus.

Well that's one of my bets that didn't lose - was quite happy with the 8/1 nrnb though.

I've got a score on her @ 14/1 for the Mares.

Happy to break even for the greater good ;)

;D

Not sure what they'll do with VVM, as I can't see Ruby wanting them in the same race.

Probably haven't decided themselves, she's in all the championship races hurdle and chase so just sub for anything. The way they've lined up suggests she will go champion hurdle as they have little else there but a top 3 elsewhere. Be ridic to waste two such horses against each other in such a poor race esp as apples jade is the best nonmullins horse for a very long time. Walsh has to ride Wicklow brave if she doesn't run? Unreal considering.


Title: Re: Racing Th
Post by: Marky147 on March 09, 2017, 12:14:40 AM
Limini not supplemented. That's a bonus.

Well that's one of my bets that didn't lose - was quite happy with the 8/1 nrnb though.

I've got a score on her @ 14/1 for the Mares.

Happy to break even for the greater good ;)

;D

Not sure what they'll do with VVM, as I can't see Ruby wanting them in the same race.

Probably haven't decided themselves, she's in all the championship races hurdle and chase so just sub for anything. The way they've lined up suggests she will go champion hurdle as they have little else there but a top 3 elsewhere. Be ridic to waste two such horses against each other in such a poor race esp as apples jade is the best nonmullins horse for a very long time. Walsh has to ride Wicklow brave if she doesn't run? Unreal considering.

Yeah, would seem to be most sensible option.

Unless it's a dry week and Jacob takes Sceau Royal?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on March 09, 2017, 10:31:19 AM
Bit late to the party this year.

Backed champers on ice for the ultima and Holywell

Really really like automated for the coral cup

Move with the times rock solid for supreme

Interested in squeoteur for the novices chase day 1.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 09, 2017, 04:08:01 PM
Want double or quits on GC, Rick?

You take CC, I'll take Djak or NR?

You pick which one, not I get both, obv ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on March 09, 2017, 05:56:49 PM
Beuver Dair taking a right walk in the CH market, have I missed something?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 09, 2017, 06:29:00 PM
Beuver Dair taking a right walk in the CH market, have I missed something?

Just the market correcting itself, I would think.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 09, 2017, 06:55:17 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQClFD5hr6I

:D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on March 10, 2017, 05:58:26 AM
Want double or quits on GC, Rick?

You take CC, I'll take Djak or NR?

You pick which one, not I get both, obv ;D

You're on I'll take djack


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 10, 2017, 01:22:21 PM
Want double or quits on GC, Rick?

You take CC, I'll take Djak or NR?

You pick which one, not I get both, obv ;D

You're on I'll take djack

 :)up

I'll take NR.

GL!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 10, 2017, 03:43:41 PM
Don poli out of the GC.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 10, 2017, 04:13:00 PM
Don poli out of the GC.

Elliott might get his own way with Empire of Dirt now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 10, 2017, 05:26:52 PM
Don poli out of the GC.

Elliott might get his own way with Empire of Dirt now.

They have outlander, dont really see elliots negativity, seen him say hes not good enough recently. You think maybe GE will have a chip on his shoulder about the horses he inherited from mullins compared to ones hes always trained?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 10, 2017, 05:39:21 PM
Don poli out of the GC.

Elliott might get his own way with Empire of Dirt now.

They have outlander, dont really see elliots negativity, seen him say hes not good enough recently. You think maybe GE will have a chip on his shoulder about the horses he inherited from mullins compared to ones hes always trained?

Think the GN tantrums may have pissed him off a bit, even if there is an issue to raise. Throwing the toys out over a couple lbs is a bit petty, as Elliott seemed to think the Polinator had a stonking chance.

I've read up the notes on a few previews, and he has constantly been banging on about how EOD would have the best chance of his in the GC.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 10, 2017, 06:07:26 PM
Don poli out of the GC.

Elliott might get his own way with Empire of Dirt now.

They have outlander, dont really see elliots negativity, seen him say hes not good enough recently. You think maybe GE will have a chip on his shoulder about the horses he inherited from mullins compared to ones hes always trained?

Think the GN tantrums may have pissed him off a bit, even if there is an issue to raise. Throwing the toys out over a couple lbs is a bit petty, as Elliott seemed to think the Polinator had a stonking chance.

I've read up the notes on a few previews, and he has constantly been banging on about how EOD would have the best chance of his in the GC.


The view was he got outstayed in IGC from oleary? Thought similar when id backed him but disagree more I watch it, his jumping got him beat and cheltenham will suit him better as theres more of a run in after the last. Suppose winning the ryanair is just a what if for everybody other than oleary lol. When you are totally reliant on oleary you dont bitch when he wants to win the ryanair lol.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 10, 2017, 06:22:00 PM
Don poli out of the GC.

Elliott might get his own way with Empire of Dirt now.

They have outlander, dont really see elliots negativity, seen him say hes not good enough recently. You think maybe GE will have a chip on his shoulder about the horses he inherited from mullins compared to ones hes always trained?

Think the GN tantrums may have pissed him off a bit, even if there is an issue to raise. Throwing the toys out over a couple lbs is a bit petty, as Elliott seemed to think the Polinator had a stonking chance.

I've read up the notes on a few previews, and he has constantly been banging on about how EOD would have the best chance of his in the GC.


The view was he got outstayed in IGC from oleary? Thought similar when id backed him but disagree more I watch it, his jumping got him beat and cheltenham will suit him better as theres more of a run in after the last. Suppose winning the ryanair is just a what if for everybody other than oleary lol. When you are totally reliant on oleary you dont bitch when he wants to win the ryanair lol.

That was another line I read somewhere. Elliott supposedly said 'As long as he is signing the cheques, I'll keep kissing his arse', or something to that effect :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 11, 2017, 12:13:27 AM
Jamie codd seems quite keen on Fayonagh, because of the nature of irish bumper races, amateur jockeys have a decent insight. Not really big on bumpers, desperate mans race but Codd is usually quite a decent judge.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on March 11, 2017, 08:54:23 AM
Interested in Harry in Stayers. I've already backed it, but people seem to be very keen on this out of the whole festival, is this really getting beat?

Interesting stuff on douvan related too

1/3 in QM, but altior price is forever shortening & Douvan also fav is RA. Surely not?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on March 11, 2017, 09:48:50 PM
Major plunge on the AW tonight, Music Major 12-1 into 7-2!

Price on the machine tumbled all the way from 14 to 11.

Shameful.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on March 14, 2017, 09:06:06 PM
What's this?

All eyes on Cheltenham, a three-runner race with the long odds-on shot trained by J.Butler and an antiquated Rule 4 system?

Couldn't happen could it?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: DMorgan on March 14, 2017, 09:41:58 PM
How would I find out the SPs from Cheltenham today? The page linked below has data from today but it doesn't include Cheltenham

https://promo.betfair.com/betfairsp/prices/index.php

Cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 14, 2017, 09:52:53 PM
How would I find out the SPs from Cheltenham today? The page linked below has data from today but it doesn't include Cheltenham

https://promo.betfair.com/betfairsp/prices/index.php

Cheers

Here you go mate:

https://beta.racingpost.com/results/


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Jamier-Host on March 14, 2017, 09:53:05 PM
Racing Post has full results including SP for all runners


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 15, 2017, 04:17:21 PM
Ed Chamberlin trying very hard to sound even more awestruck than Professor Cox.

Rapidly getting even more fed up with him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 15, 2017, 07:02:11 PM
Jamie codd seems quite keen on Fayonagh, because of the nature of irish bumper races, amateur jockeys have a decent insight. Not really big on bumpers, desperate mans race but Codd is usually quite a decent judge.

16/1 when he said this.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 15, 2017, 07:43:11 PM
Jamie codd seems quite keen on Fayonagh, because of the nature of irish bumper races, amateur jockeys have a decent insight. Not really big on bumpers, desperate mans race but Codd is usually quite a decent judge.

16/1 when he said this.

I read that when you posted it but promptly forgot about it - did have a lady godiva on at 11/1 today though to save the day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on March 15, 2017, 07:52:22 PM
Jamie codd seems quite keen on Fayonagh, because of the nature of irish bumper races, amateur jockeys have a decent insight. Not really big on bumpers, desperate mans race but Codd is usually quite a decent judge.

16/1 when he said this.

I read that when you posted it but promptly forgot about it - did have a lady godiva on at 11/1 today though to save the day.

Think its my first bumper winner since pizarro lol. One time in his life spencer got there too soon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 15, 2017, 08:32:57 PM
Jamie codd seems quite keen on Fayonagh, because of the nature of irish bumper races, amateur jockeys have a decent insight. Not really big on bumpers, desperate mans race but Codd is usually quite a decent judge.

16/1 when he said this.

I read that when you posted it but promptly forgot about it - did have a lady godiva on at 11/1 today though to save the day.

Think its my first bumper winner since pizarro lol. One time in his life spencer got there too soon.

My first one since Dunguib I think and equally if not even more impressive.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 15, 2017, 08:49:20 PM
Blacklion 33/1 and Cause of Causes 40/1 for the National fwiw.  But early days.

I became a bit of a fan of CoC when it won at Cheltenham(?) last year. But I have seen it run a few times after and it's off the bridle so early, seems to be always under pressure & ran a stinker in the national last year. I'd love to agree with you about CoC, but I can't understand it, a VERY frustrating horse.

Just long range darts.  Trying to find something well weighted on its best form.  Even more punty is O Faolain's Boy  (40/1) that hasn't even run this year (but goes Saturday vs Saphir Du Rhea over just short of 3m).

I blame Tighty, I wasn't going to bother looking.


Saphir out today, so you wont be getting that match up.

I think Jonjo holds the key. Thought More of That looked right back to form on Sunday, despite his fall, and immediately grabbed some 50s for GC, but by implication I should back him for the National, if I think he can win a GC.

Carlingford Lock looks to be screaming out for as far as possible and Im astounded he is 33-1.

Where is Adz?  Chelters passing him by, most unusual. 

V good tip on More of That. Blaklion and Cause of Causes not looking bad either.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 15, 2017, 08:55:49 PM
Blacklion 33/1 and Cause of Causes 40/1 for the National fwiw.  But early days.

I became a bit of a fan of CoC when it won at Cheltenham(?) last year. But I have seen it run a few times after and it's off the bridle so early, seems to be always under pressure & ran a stinker in the national last year. I'd love to agree with you about CoC, but I can't understand it, a VERY frustrating horse.

Just long range darts.  Trying to find something well weighted on its best form.  Even more punty is O Faolain's Boy  (40/1) that hasn't even run this year (but goes Saturday vs Saphir Du Rhea over just short of 3m).

I blame Tighty, I wasn't going to bother looking.


Saphir out today, so you wont be getting that match up.

I think Jonjo holds the key. Thought More of That looked right back to form on Sunday, despite his fall, and immediately grabbed some 50s for GC, but by implication I should back him for the National, if I think he can win a GC.

Carlingford Lock looks to be screaming out for as far as possible and Im astounded he is 33-1.

Where is Adz?  Chelters passing him by, most unusual. 

V good tip on More of That. Blaklion and Cause of Causes not looking bad either.

He's at a concrete convention(teeks' dream assignment) in Vegas and getting up at the crack of dawn to watch the racing I believe.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 15, 2017, 08:57:29 PM
Blacklion 33/1 and Cause of Causes 40/1 for the National fwiw.  But early days.

I became a bit of a fan of CoC when it won at Cheltenham(?) last year. But I have seen it run a few times after and it's off the bridle so early, seems to be always under pressure & ran a stinker in the national last year. I'd love to agree with you about CoC, but I can't understand it, a VERY frustrating horse.

Just long range darts.  Trying to find something well weighted on its best form.  Even more punty is O Faolain's Boy  (40/1) that hasn't even run this year (but goes Saturday vs Saphir Du Rhea over just short of 3m).

I blame Tighty, I wasn't going to bother looking.


Saphir out today, so you wont be getting that match up.

I think Jonjo holds the key. Thought More of That looked right back to form on Sunday, despite his fall, and immediately grabbed some 50s for GC, but by implication I should back him for the National, if I think he can win a GC.

Carlingford Lock looks to be screaming out for as far as possible and Im astounded he is 33-1.

Where is Adz?  Chelters passing him by, most unusual. 

V good tip on More of That. Blaklion and Cause of Causes not looking bad either.

He's at a concrete convention(teeks' dream assignment) in Vegas and getting up at the crack of dawn to watch the racing I believe.

Oh ffs.  Memory is gone. I even gave him tips on how to watch Cheltenham whilst there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: DMorgan on March 16, 2017, 09:53:13 AM
How would I find out the SPs from Cheltenham today? The page linked below has data from today but it doesn't include Cheltenham

https://promo.betfair.com/betfairsp/prices/index.php

Cheers

Here you go mate:

https://beta.racingpost.com/results/

Racing Post has full results including SP for all runners

Thanks guys, gl today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on March 29, 2017, 02:48:32 PM
Emma Spencer is now 888's version of Simon Clare. Just so comedy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 02, 2017, 02:25:04 AM
Surely Ems can't be as bad as that Gremlin, Chompy?

Aintree is almost here, and then it's back to flat for 6 months... Bit of luck I miss Ascot, and save myself a monkey :D


Want double or quits again on the national, Trigg?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 07, 2017, 01:23:28 PM
Three horses out today that are back in their proper grade and could be grossly overpriced.

West Approach should never have run in the Stayers(especially as I had him at 50s for the Potato race....), neither should Moon Racer have gone for the Champion.

Irish Cavalier has also drifted to 40s for the Topham.

Cant get too involved, but could look silly later.


One I do have a real fancy for is Bright New Dawn. Ran a cracker in the Grand Annual, and I have felt this would be the ideal race for it ever since Ms Williams brought him over. 40-1. Yum!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 07, 2017, 02:01:47 PM
Jenny Pitman on RUK.

Cant believe how well she looks, and how much sense she still speaks.

 ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on April 07, 2017, 03:26:59 PM
Jenny Pitman on RUK.

Cant believe how well she looks, and how much sense she still speaks.

 ;applause;

She was very successful and relatively young (53 I think) when she retired.

Why did she pack it in so soon?

Nicky Henderson is only 3 years younger and he's not doiing too badly.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 07, 2017, 03:38:31 PM
Jenny Pitman on RUK.

Cant believe how well she looks, and how much sense she still speaks.

 ;applause;

She was very successful and relatively young (53 I think) when she retired.

Why did she pack it in so soon?

Nicky Henderson is only 3 years younger and he's not doiing too badly.


Not sure why she quit, but I really thought it was due to old age, never realised she was only 53. Crikey!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 07, 2017, 03:54:49 PM
Looking forward to this race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 07, 2017, 04:05:32 PM
Might Bite is a lunatic :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 07, 2017, 04:41:20 PM
Three horses out today that are back in their proper grade and could be grossly overpriced.

West Approach should never have run in the Stayers(especially as I had him at 50s for the Potato race....), neither should Moon Racer have gone for the Champion.

Irish Cavalier has also drifted to 40s for the Topham.

Cant get too involved, but could look silly later.


One I do have a real fancy for is Bright New Dawn. Ran a cracker in the Grand Annual, and I have felt this would be the ideal race for it ever since Ms Williams brought him over. 40-1. Yum!

Hopefully it's a bright afternoon!

Good luck us :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on April 07, 2017, 05:37:40 PM
Jenny Pitman on RUK.

Cant believe how well she looks, and how much sense she still speaks.

 ;applause;

She was very successful and relatively young (53 I think) when she retired.

Why did she pack it in so soon?

Nicky Henderson is only 3 years younger and he's not doiing too badly.

To hand over to 'm'son Mark' I think. Wpwp.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tonytats on April 08, 2017, 10:28:42 AM
Jenny Pitman on RUK.

Cant believe how well she looks, and how much sense she still speaks.

 ;applause;

She was very successful and relatively young (53 I think) when she retired.



Probably all the fees she charged my cousin who had several horses with her in the 80 s
Terryash Midad welsh display are some I can remember
Why did she pack it in so soon?

Nicky Henderson is only 3 years younger and he's not doiing too badly.


Not sure why she quit, but I really thought it was due to old age, never realised she was only 53. Crikey!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on April 08, 2017, 12:21:19 PM
On Grand National day, how can the ITV racing opening show not be on the main channel?

i can't understand it. your main day to promote your show, the race and the sport and its on ITV4 where no casual viewers will spot it



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Teacake on April 08, 2017, 01:07:40 PM
On Grand National day, how can the ITV racing opening show not be on the main channel?

i can't understand it. your main day to promote your show, the race and the sport and its on ITV4 where no casual viewers will spot it



Was thinking the same thing, absolutely crazy, they should be wall to wall GN related coverage today, instead we're getting a Carry On film!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 08, 2017, 03:15:15 PM
On Grand National day, how can the ITV racing opening show not be on the main channel?

i can't understand it. your main day to promote your show, the race and the sport and its on ITV4 where no casual viewers will spot it



Was thinking the same thing, absolutely crazy, they should be wall to wall GN related coverage today, instead we're getting a Carry On film!


Start as you mean to finish......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 08, 2017, 04:22:19 PM
Bookies had it right off there, lucky twats!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 13, 2017, 01:06:42 PM
https://soundcloud.com/emmet-kennedy/hugh-taylor-special

Hugh Taylor on TFF this week, which will be worth listening to.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 21, 2017, 01:46:27 PM
Say it very quietly.....

Im backing a Frank Spencer horse tomorrow....shhh

In the Spring handicap Banksea has always promised more than he has delivered, but still has 2 firsts and 4 seconds in a progressive 10 race profile.

If he has trained on, as I hope, the booking of Frank is very interesting as he was on the current second fav(Donncha) in the Lincoln LTO, when finishing 3rd a good third.

Banksea seems to run well fresh, and Frank must have been tipped the wink, and at a stand out 12-1 with Joke Oral, I have got involved.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: biggle57 on April 22, 2017, 03:46:43 PM
Weeee a touch cosy as well, cheers Adz!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on April 22, 2017, 03:46:59 PM
Say it very quietly.....

Im backing a Frank Spencer horse tomorrow....shhh

In the Spring handicap Banksea has always promised more than he has delivered, but still has 2 firsts and 4 seconds in a progressive 10 race profile.

If he has trained on, as I hope, the booking of Frank is very interesting as he was on the current second fav(Donncha) in the Lincoln LTO, when finishing 3rd a good third.

Banksea seems to run well fresh, and Frank must have been tipped the wink, and at a stand out 12-1 with Joke Oral, I have got involved.

GL

Oi Oi

TYVM BigAdz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 22, 2017, 03:54:28 PM

Adzyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 22, 2017, 04:41:05 PM
 :)up :)up :)up


Good ole Frank!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 22, 2017, 04:42:39 PM
:)up :)up :)up


Good ole Frank!

We won't hear a word said against him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 22, 2017, 04:48:43 PM
:)up :)up :)up


Good ole Frank!

We won't hear a word said against him.


Know when to hold em, know when to fold em.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on April 22, 2017, 06:52:13 PM
Well done Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 26, 2017, 05:39:07 PM
What a race!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 26, 2017, 07:10:48 PM
Missed another one - no wonder it slooshed in.

Well done Adz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 27, 2017, 12:55:50 PM
Footpad @14/1 is an interesting runner in the Irish Stayers' Hurdle today, it looks to me as though it's been crying out for a longer trip.

Any thoughts feel free to PM and I might get an e-mail notification. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 27, 2017, 05:39:28 PM
Had to settle for place money but it ran a very nice race - possibly didn't quite get the trip.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 27, 2017, 05:41:26 PM
Had to settle for place money but it ran a very nice race - possibly didn't quite get the trip.

Looked to travel really well.

Another great race. Been some pearlers this week.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 27, 2017, 07:01:51 PM
I know you have to take NH form at this time of the year with a pinch of salt but Great Field just toyed with them there - every time the jockey gave him a squeeze he opened up another 5/6 lengths - only a 6-y-o and could be a bit of a monster.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on April 28, 2017, 10:23:00 AM
I know you have to take NH form at this time of the year with a pinch of salt but Great Field just toyed with them there - every time the jockey gave him a squeeze he opened up another 5/6 lengths - only a 6-y-o and could be a bit of a monster.

He was immense on last outing aswell (think it was discussed here, his jockey made a great sit after he hadnt seen a horse all race), his jumping is wild tho.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2017, 12:19:47 PM
I think I'm going mad with all the excellent fare on offer today, but I quite like a stab at a horse not seen out for over two years.

In the 4.10 at Sandown,  Beat That returns for the first time since the start of 2015, when he was pulled up at Cheltenham.

Prior to this he looked a potential world beater following wins at Aintree and Punchestown.

Now who knows how he will return after this sort of a break, but I like the fact Coleman has been booked. Hendo is chasing the title and unless he felt the horse was very well, its a strange time of year to bring him back out, for a pop round. I also feel Hendo would have entrusted that to one of his apprentices, or someone known to the horse. Maybe.

I also fancy most of his opposition have been targeted at plenty of other races prior to this and several could well be "over the top" for the season. For sure I doubt any other horse here has been primed for this...Maybe.

Anyway at 20-1 I feel its worth a few shekels for those that like to chance their arm on my musings. Don't be surprised if he is pulled up after 3 hurdles though, after this sort of break you just dont know........Good luck us.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 29, 2017, 12:38:44 PM
I think I'm going mad with all the excellent fare on offer today, but I quite like a stab at a horse not seen out for over two years.

In the 4.10 at Sandown,  Beat That returns for the first time since the start of 2015, when he was pulled up at Cheltenham.

Prior to this he looked a potential world beater following wins at Aintree and Punchestown.

Now who knows how he will return after this sort of a break, but I like the fact Coleman has been booked. Hendo is chasing the title and unless he felt the horse was very well, its a strange time of year to bring him back out, for a pop round. I also feel Hendo would have entrusted that to one of his apprentices, or someone known to the horse. Maybe.

I also fancy most of his opposition have been targeted at plenty of other races prior to this and several could well be "over the top" for the season. For sure I doubt any other horse here has been primed for this...Maybe.

Anyway at 20-1 I feel its worth a few shekels for those that like to chance their arm on my musings. Don't be surprised if he is pulled up after 3 hurdles though, after this sort of break you just dont know........Good luck us.



Had to have a dabble on that. If either this gets home, or Tighty's Road to Riches tip, that'll be very nice. If both win, it'll be oioi time.

Good luck us.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 29, 2017, 04:22:00 PM
I think I'm going mad with all the excellent fare on offer today, but I quite like a stab at a horse not seen out for over two years.

In the 4.10 at Sandown,  Beat That returns for the first time since the start of 2015, when he was pulled up at Cheltenham.

Prior to this he looked a potential world beater following wins at Aintree and Punchestown.

Now who knows how he will return after this sort of a break, but I like the fact Coleman has been booked. Hendo is chasing the title and unless he felt the horse was very well, its a strange time of year to bring him back out, for a pop round. I also feel Hendo would have entrusted that to one of his apprentices, or someone known to the horse. Maybe.

I also fancy most of his opposition have been targeted at plenty of other races prior to this and several could well be "over the top" for the season. For sure I doubt any other horse here has been primed for this...Maybe.

Anyway at 20-1 I feel its worth a few shekels for those that like to chance their arm on my musings. Don't be surprised if he is pulled up after 3 hurdles though, after this sort of break you just dont know........Good luck us.




Jumped well, and travelled well enough to trade at 2.7 in running. Personally I think he probably needed a stronger pace, but good to see old mate Lami Serge finally win a decent prize, regardless.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 29, 2017, 04:27:23 PM
I think I'm going mad with all the excellent fare on offer today, but I quite like a stab at a horse not seen out for over two years.

In the 4.10 at Sandown,  Beat That returns for the first time since the start of 2015, when he was pulled up at Cheltenham.

Prior to this he looked a potential world beater following wins at Aintree and Punchestown.

Now who knows how he will return after this sort of a break, but I like the fact Coleman has been booked. Hendo is chasing the title and unless he felt the horse was very well, its a strange time of year to bring him back out, for a pop round. I also feel Hendo would have entrusted that to one of his apprentices, or someone known to the horse. Maybe.

I also fancy most of his opposition have been targeted at plenty of other races prior to this and several could well be "over the top" for the season. For sure I doubt any other horse here has been primed for this...Maybe.

Anyway at 20-1 I feel its worth a few shekels for those that like to chance their arm on my musings. Don't be surprised if he is pulled up after 3 hurdles though, after this sort of break you just dont know........Good luck us.




Jumped well, and travelled well enough to trade at 2.7 in running. Personally I think he probably needed a stronger pace, but good to see old mate Lami Serge finally win a decent prize, regardless.

Turning for home I thought we were in with a shout, but he weakened quickly.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 29, 2017, 06:20:56 PM
Scottish Greyhound Derby semi-finals tonight at Shawfield and the prize for winning one of them? £300 plus a spot in the final of course but even so...

The sport is in terrible decline.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 05, 2017, 10:10:40 AM
It's that time of year already - Guineas weekend.


2000 (Saturday);


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/2000-guineas/winner


1000, Sunday;


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/1000-guineas/winner



Ed Chamberlain can tell us how great everything about the Guineas, Newmarket, & of course he'll blabber on non-stop about Frankel's progeny (Nap). Trust me, he will.

Frankel, Frankel, Frankel.......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 05, 2017, 10:13:23 AM
Surprised nobody else has taken on Tony Hind as their agent.

Crowley has left, obv, now he's landed the toasty Hamdan gig, so Hind only has Ryan, Mullen and Fortune. None of those will be chasing the championship.

The likes of Fran Berry and Oisin are missing a trick here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 05, 2017, 10:14:58 AM
Surprised nobody else has taken on Tony Hind as their agent.

Crowley has left, obv, now he's landed the toasty Hamdan gig, so Hind only has Ryan, Mullen and Fortune. None of those will be chasing the championship.

The likes of Fran Berry and Oisin are missing a trick here.

Morning Mr W. You made an appearance on my Diary this morning. You were looking great. Ish.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 05, 2017, 10:44:28 AM
It's that time of year already - Guineas weekend.


2000 (Saturday);


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/2000-guineas/winner


1000, Sunday;


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/1000-guineas/winner



Ed Chamberlain can tell us how great everything about the Guineas, Newmarket, & of course he'll blabber on non-stop about Frankel's progeny (Nap). Trust me, he will.

Frankel, Frankel, Frankel.......


Betfair sportsbook are 6/4 Churchill when only 2.34/2.36 on the exchange.  Please come and bet with us, so we can close your account?

Could do with a bit more quarter first 3 about tomorrow.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 05, 2017, 02:45:25 PM
It's that time of year already - Guineas weekend.


2000 (Saturday);


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/2000-guineas/winner


1000, Sunday;


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/1000-guineas/winner



Ed Chamberlain can tell us how great everything about the Guineas, Newmarket, & of course he'll blabber on non-stop about Frankel's progeny (Nap). Trust me, he will.

Frankel, Frankel, Frankel.......


Betfair sportsbook are 6/4 Churchill when only 2.34/2.36 on the exchange.  Please come and bet with us, so we can close your account?

Could do with a bit more quarter first 3 about tomorrow.

Al Wukair is 5/1 on stars and even at a fifth first 3, you should beat the place price with all the outsiders.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 05, 2017, 02:50:29 PM
It's that time of year already - Guineas weekend.


2000 (Saturday);


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/2000-guineas/winner


1000, Sunday;


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/1000-guineas/winner



Ed Chamberlain can tell us how great everything about the Guineas, Newmarket, & of course he'll blabber on non-stop about Frankel's progeny (Nap). Trust me, he will.

Frankel, Frankel, Frankel.......


And so he should ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 05, 2017, 07:39:34 PM
It's that time of year already - Guineas weekend.


2000 (Saturday);


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/2000-guineas/winner


1000, Sunday;


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/1000-guineas/winner



Ed Chamberlain can tell us how great everything about the Guineas, Newmarket, & of course he'll blabber on non-stop about Frankel's progeny (Nap). Trust me, he will.

Frankel, Frankel, Frankel.......


Betfair sportsbook are 6/4 Churchill when only 2.34/2.36 on the exchange.  Please come and bet with us, so we can close your account?

Could do with a bit more quarter first 3 about tomorrow.


For the life of me I dont know why an educated bloke like you would say this Doobs.

Why would a firm offer a slightly bigger price on one race to lure you in just to ban you? Just makes zero sense.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on May 05, 2017, 07:54:16 PM
It's that time of year already - Guineas weekend.


2000 (Saturday);


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/2000-guineas/winner


1000, Sunday;


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/1000-guineas/winner



Ed Chamberlain can tell us how great everything about the Guineas, Newmarket, & of course he'll blabber on non-stop about Frankel's progeny (Nap). Trust me, he will.

Frankel, Frankel, Frankel.......


Betfair sportsbook are 6/4 Churchill when only 2.34/2.36 on the exchange.  Please come and bet with us, so we can close your account?

Could do with a bit more quarter first 3 about tomorrow.


For the life of me I dont know why an educated bloke like you would say this Doobs.

Why would a firm offer a slightly bigger price on one race to lure you in just to ban you? Just makes zero sense.

No casual punter is ever going to back the jolly lumpy two days before the event.  By putting out an 'arbing' carrot' they can lure in the semi pros and pros (if they still have a betfair account) and if they lump enough on they know they are probably arbers and totally price sensitive.  Surely this is pretty easy to understand? .   This is how they operate nowadays.  Highly effective way of closing down price sensitive accounts.  The game is gone with the corporate firms.  They just don't have opinions that they will actually lay a bet to. Thats what happens when you only pay your under 25 guessing loltraders straight out of uni £30k a year to run your desk.

BFSB closed my account before they even started trading as a sportsbook.  They used betfair excahnge data to close accounts of winners before the sportsbook even opened.  Obviously they don't advertise this fact.  I have never had a bet on my 15 year old betfair exchange account on their sportsbook just for balance.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 05, 2017, 08:10:51 PM
It's that time of year already - Guineas weekend.


2000 (Saturday);


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/2000-guineas/winner


1000, Sunday;


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/1000-guineas/winner



Ed Chamberlain can tell us how great everything about the Guineas, Newmarket, & of course he'll blabber on non-stop about Frankel's progeny (Nap). Trust me, he will.

Frankel, Frankel, Frankel.......


Betfair sportsbook are 6/4 Churchill when only 2.34/2.36 on the exchange.  Please come and bet with us, so we can close your account?

Could do with a bit more quarter first 3 about tomorrow.


For the life of me I dont know why an educated bloke like you would say this Doobs.

Why would a firm offer a slightly bigger price on one race to lure you in just to ban you? Just makes zero sense.

No casual punter is ever going to back the jolly lumpy two days before the event.  By putting out an 'arbing' carrot' they can lure in the semi pros and pros (if they still have a betfair account) and if they lump enough on they know they are probably arbers and totally price sensitive.  Surely this is pretty easy to understand? .   This is how they operate nowadays.  Highly effective way of closing down price sensitive accounts.  The game is gone with the corporate firms.  They just don't have opinions that they will actually lay a bet to. Thats what happens when you only pay your under 25 guessing loltraders straight out of uni £30k a year to run your desk.

BFSB closed my account before they even started trading as a sportsbook.  I have never had a bet on my 15 year old betfair exchange account on their sportsbook just for balance.

In a pure world, of course I understand. However, your very observation would suggest, a proper pro would have been scouted out by BFSB long before now. A small margin on the Guineas is hardly breaking cover. By being longest on Oddschecker doesnt mean you get auto banned if you take it up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on May 05, 2017, 08:12:30 PM
It's that time of year already - Guineas weekend.


2000 (Saturday);


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/2000-guineas/winner


1000, Sunday;


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/ante-post-racing/flat/1000-guineas/winner



Ed Chamberlain can tell us how great everything about the Guineas, Newmarket, & of course he'll blabber on non-stop about Frankel's progeny (Nap). Trust me, he will.

Frankel, Frankel, Frankel.......


Betfair sportsbook are 6/4 Churchill when only 2.34/2.36 on the exchange.  Please come and bet with us, so we can close your account?

Could do with a bit more quarter first 3 about tomorrow.


For the life of me I dont know why an educated bloke like you would say this Doobs.

Why would a firm offer a slightly bigger price on one race to lure you in just to ban you? Just makes zero sense.

No casual punter is ever going to back the jolly lumpy two days before the event.  By putting out an 'arbing' carrot' they can lure in the semi pros and pros (if they still have a betfair account) and if they lump enough on they know they are probably arbers and totally price sensitive.  Surely this is pretty easy to understand? .   This is how they operate nowadays.  Highly effective way of closing down price sensitive accounts.  The game is gone with the corporate firms.  They just don't have opinions that they will actually lay a bet to. Thats what happens when you only pay your under 25 guessing loltraders straight out of uni £30k a year to run your desk.

BFSB closed my account before they even started trading as a sportsbook.  I have never had a bet on my 15 year old betfair exchange account on their sportsbook just for balance.

In a pure world, of course I understand. However, your very observation would suggest, a proper pro would have been scouted out by BFSB long before now. A small margin on the Guineas is hardly breaking cover. By being longest on Oddschecker doesnt mean you get auto banned if you take it up.

If you are lucky enough to have a full limit account on BFSB have a full limit bet and see what happens to your limits.   What is a full limit BFSB limit on this horse adz?  i assume your account will tell us? Please post the results after you have nicked your 1% on the exchange risk free after commission.

A proper pro as you state would have been closed down ages ago but they put out these carrots to close to their 'mates' accounts who they are getting on with.  Very easy way to do it and having an easy explanation to the 'board' when the fav hoses up to protect their jobs.  Jolly won the big race.  Course we lost.  What did you expect Mr Director?

Feel free to have a full limit bet on the sportsbook and lay it off on the exchange and then tell me about your SB limits on monday morning if you think i am wrong!  You can make money whilst you do it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2017, 08:42:11 AM
Strangely, as i have mentioned before, I dont go bulldozing in and press max bet on one account, on an account closing bet. That would set off alarm bells all over, just to make a few extra quid and lose a valuable account.

That would be a very stupid thing to do for anyone that is trying to make money from betting, wouldn't it?!!!





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on May 06, 2017, 08:45:20 AM
Strangely, as i have mentioned before, I dont go bulldozing in and press max bet on one account, on an account closing bet. That would set off alarm bells all over, just to make a few extra quid and lose a valuable account.

That would be a very stupid thing to do for anyone that is trying to make money from betting, wouldn't it?!!!





In my experince mucking around trying to nick a few quid on lots of bets is a waste of time. They will get you sooner rather than later.

Better to play for the max on every +ev spot and hope you last long enough to win before they shut you.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 06, 2017, 09:07:36 AM
If you go in for big singles ages before the event at stand out prices then you'll get shut down pretty snappy, if you don't then you have a chance at a run.

So really, it should be a massive print spot for you to do that because EV of having an account open is miles bigger than EV of a single bet, learning to turn the spots down is as important as learning how to spot them in the first place, IMO.

Also drop some EV to take some worse positions once in a while...won't kill you :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2017, 09:10:02 AM
I just don't know how you big boys actually survive then.

Say, 15 (abso max) decent quality bookies that will take a proper bet. You get shut after, say 5 decent punts. You then need a massive bank of helpful/trusting/trustworthy friends to survive long term surely?

Then all you are left with is the exchanges.

I know, I should just keep quiet, but I love being reminded what a tragically shit punter I am by Arb..... :D



Edit. Nice to see a respected member of the forum feels the same :)up....Cheers Dave


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 06, 2017, 09:19:07 AM
I just don't know how you big boys actually survive then.

Say, 15 (abso max) decent quality bookies that will take a proper bet. You get shut after, say 5 decent punts. You then need a massive bank of helpful/trusting/trustworthy friends to survive long term surely?

Then all you are left with is the exchanges.

I know, I should just keep quiet, but I love being reminded what a tragically shit punter I am by Arb..... :D

It's massively possible to stay open much longer than that, take a little extra variance, use a bit of common sense etc


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 06, 2017, 09:32:20 AM
I just don't know how you big boys actually survive then.

Say, 15 (abso max) decent quality bookies that will take a proper bet. You get shut after, say 5 decent punts. You then need a massive bank of helpful/trusting/trustworthy friends to survive long term surely?

Then all you are left with is the exchanges.

I know, I should just keep quiet, but I love being reminded what a tragically shit punter I am by Arb..... :D

It's massively possible to stay open much longer than that, take a little extra variance, use a bit of common sense etc


I thought it was just me that was going mad.....glad to know I'm not alone.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: SuuPRlim on May 06, 2017, 09:46:38 AM
I mean you could lose too, thats a decent way of staying open :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on May 07, 2017, 11:16:02 AM
who is The Racing Blogger, aka Stephen Power?

why does he get attention, notoriety etc?

i see him mentioned a lot but i have no idea who he is


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2017, 12:08:42 PM
who is The Racing Blogger, aka Stephen Power?

why does he get attention, notoriety etc?

i see him mentioned a lot but i have no idea who he is


Just some fella trying to get some profile, or probably a job, in racing by pushing his views on Twitter etc. Not my cup of tea, but fair play to him.

Think he either won or got through to final of the RUK TipStars comp too.

Has he upset you?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on May 07, 2017, 12:13:19 PM
who is The Racing Blogger, aka Stephen Power?

why does he get attention, notoriety etc?

i see him mentioned a lot but i have no idea who he is


Just some fella trying to get some profile, or probably a job, in racing by pushing his views on Twitter etc. Not my cup of tea, but fair play to him.

Think he either won or got through to final of the RUK TipStars comp too.

Has he upset you?

No not at all. As i say beyond seeing the name i have no idea who he is. If he is worth following or funny or interesting then i'd like to know.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 07, 2017, 12:19:47 PM
He has got the game, by the absolute bollocks :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2017, 12:22:10 PM
who is The Racing Blogger, aka Stephen Power?

why does he get attention, notoriety etc?

i see him mentioned a lot but i have no idea who he is


Just some fella trying to get some profile, or probably a job, in racing by pushing his views on Twitter etc. Not my cup of tea, but fair play to him.

Think he either won or got through to final of the RUK TipStars comp too.

Has he upset you?

No not at all. As i say beyond seeing the name i have no idea who he is. If he is worth following or funny or interesting then i'd like to know.


Marky is the the Facecloth, Twitter, Instagram lover, best ask him. :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 07, 2017, 12:23:21 PM
He has got the game, by the absolute bollocks :D

Tipping Rhododendrun at 5/2 when it is best 11/8? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 07, 2017, 12:25:07 PM
I saw one of his videos pop up after the Haye v Bellew fight, when he had done his bollocks lumping Haye.

Some of them are quite funny, but I was under the impression if was more a parody, than a serious thing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 07, 2017, 12:29:18 PM
He has got the game, by the absolute bollocks :D

Tipping Rhododendrun at 5/2 when it is best 11/8? 

No idea what he's tipping. That's just his little catchphrase, when people dig him out :D

He was in the Padraig video during cheltenham, where the jockeys were all reading 'mean tweets' out.

I'll find it when I get to my desk. Made me chuckle.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 07, 2017, 12:51:20 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq_Abg5q794

;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 07, 2017, 01:17:32 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq_Abg5q794

;D


Magic

Ruby, Just fall off at the first and have done with it.. Brilliant


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 07, 2017, 01:35:07 PM
Believe me, nobody who makes the game pay is either all over social media or on TV. Cough, cough, Nevison, cough.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 10, 2017, 03:26:58 PM
Blakeney point and The Cashel Man.   Glad we still have 17.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on May 11, 2017, 11:47:27 AM
The famous Hill at Epsom, home of the Derby, is to be renamed the 'Poundland Hill' in a new corporate partnership with the High Street store

slightly odd for an aspirational sport,no?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 11, 2017, 11:52:38 AM
The famous Hill at Epsom, home of the Derby, is to be renamed the 'Poundland Hill' in a new corporate partnership with the High Street store

slightly odd for an aspirational sport,no?

You have gotta be kidding me.

Am I being whooshed here?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on May 11, 2017, 11:57:17 AM
The famous Hill at Epsom, home of the Derby, is to be renamed the 'Poundland Hill' in a new corporate partnership with the High Street store

slightly odd for an aspirational sport,no?

You have gotta be kidding me.

Am I being whooshed here?

No. genuine announcement this morning

Investec Derby, up the Poundland hill.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on May 11, 2017, 12:49:46 PM
The famous Hill at Epsom, home of the Derby, is to be renamed the 'Poundland Hill' in a new corporate partnership with the High Street store

slightly odd for an aspirational sport,no?

You have gotta be kidding me.

Am I being whooshed here?

No. genuine announcement this morning

Investec Derby, up the Poundland hill.

Un-bloody-believable, lol.

Poundland? Surely another example of Fake News?

NB next time it'll be 99p hill, no doubt


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on May 11, 2017, 05:36:27 PM
I think it's only the hill where people have been watching the racing for free for centuries.

It's still rather tawdry.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on May 11, 2017, 08:10:07 PM
The famous Hill at Epsom, home of the Derby, is to be renamed the 'Poundland Hill' in a new corporate partnership with the High Street store

slightly odd for an aspirational sport,no?

You have gotta be kidding me.

Am I being whooshed here?

No. genuine announcement this morning

Investec Derby, up the Poundland hill.

Un-bloody-believable, lol.

Poundland? Surely another example of Fake News?

NB next time it'll be 99p hill, no doubt

You read it ten times ...and still can't bloody believe it  :o



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: exstream on May 16, 2017, 11:38:16 AM
Annie power retired
Won't forget that fall in the mares


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 16, 2017, 01:19:38 PM
Annie power retired
Won't forget that fall in the mares

Was nailed on when they never took her to Chelts.

Doubt many of us will. It cost me over 2 grand, and I only had a fiver on the four of them antepost  :pop:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: JohnCharver on May 27, 2017, 02:08:37 PM
Spencer please retire again....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on May 28, 2017, 06:10:29 AM
Spencer please retire again....

Beats me how anyone hires him..would be last on my list


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 28, 2017, 10:28:15 AM
Jamie gets a lot of stick but mistakes are inevitable when they ride like that, same as Cash Asmussen back in the day. But he's one of the best when he gets it right and his straight-course record at Ascot is as good as it is for a reason. The likes of Russell and Ruby do it all the time over jumps but have more time and less traffic to deal with.

Silvestre and Ryan are miles clear of the current crop imo, with SDS some way ahead of Moore. So, so good.

Had an afternoon of listening to the RUK pundits the other day. Rishi telling us all how polished Rossa Ryan is, which shows how much weight a good reputation carries. He was favourite to be champion apprentice pre-season but has a long way to go for me. Mistakes and a couple of ordinary rides, even on winners. Goes wide a lot too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on May 28, 2017, 01:11:07 PM
Jamie gets a lot of stick but mistakes are inevitable when they ride like that, same as Cash Asmussen back in the day. But he's one of the best when he gets it right and his straight-course record at Ascot is as good as it is for a reason. The likes of Russell and Ruby do it all the time over jumps but have more time and less traffic to deal with.

Silvestre and Ryan are miles clear of the current crop imo, with SDS some way ahead of Moore. So, so good.

Had an afternoon of listening to the RUK pundits the other day. Rishi telling us all how polished Rossa Ryan is, which shows how much weight a good reputation carries. He was favourite to be champion apprentice pre-season but has a long way to go for me. Mistakes and a couple of ordinary rides, even on winners. Goes wide a lot too.

Love the way SDS never gives up. Always feel I have had a ride for my money if he is on them.

I think you have to be selective with Spencer and accept a certain amount of failure. I am one of his biggest critics, but look for a almost an ew price to factor in the "boxed in , fast finish" effect.

I assume that classing Rishi as a pundit, was tongue in cheek.........? :dontask:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on May 30, 2017, 07:56:45 AM
I like the look of one in todays opener at Leicester and think it might be a decent e.w punt with a shorty in the race.

Rhosneigr runs for Charlie Hills who has a 25% strike rate with his 2 year olds this season with 5 runners and 6 places from 20 runners.  Over the last 14 days he has 40% win/place record so the stable seems to be in reasonable form. 

Will Buik seems o be riding well and with confidence just now and despite him being 0 - 4 on Hills horses he has had 2 places. 

The sale price for the horse rose consisederably from foal to yearling.  The pedigree altgough not great does seem more for speed than a stayer. 

I think all things considered 16/1 represents a sporting chance. 

Any thoughts on the race? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on May 30, 2017, 10:05:03 AM
Family improve a lot with age and half-brother Cool Judgement won over 1m1f as a 2yo, so you'd expect he'll want more of a test. Drifted to 40-1+ too, so obviously not expecvted.

Just glad Leicester have followed Ascot's lead and moved to the ONLY racing channel. Did I hear Stratford were shifting too?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 04, 2017, 06:08:32 PM
Liking Flyboy in the 5.25 at Leicester tomorrow. 13/2

First run up for Fahey from O'Meara was a real eyecatcher for me, and the extra furlong should help.

He doesn't look the most resolute, and needs kidding along, but if Fahey has learnt anything from the first run, at 4 pounds lower than his last win, he could capitalise on the recent move.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on June 04, 2017, 07:19:10 PM
Sad to hear of the passing of Dandy Nicholls yesterday. I had been unaware of the allegations he faced. All very sad.

I shall remember him as a fine trainer of sprinters.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/40150858


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 04, 2017, 07:41:17 PM
Sad to hear of the passing of Dandy Nicholls yesterday. I had been unaware of the allegations he faced. All very sad.

I shall remember him as a fine trainer of sprinters.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/40150858


Ditto this. Was only looking him up yesterday after Sovereign Debt won again, who was previously in Dandys' care.

A real loss to the ranks. RIP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 05, 2017, 10:05:57 AM
Liking Flyboy in the 5.25 at Leicester tomorrow. 13/2

First run up for Fahey from O'Meara was a real eyecatcher for me, and the extra furlong should help.

He doesn't look the most resolute, and needs kidding along, but if Fahey has learnt anything from the first run, at 4 pounds lower than his last win, he could capitalise on the recent move.


Into 3-1 generally. almost worth laying back and taking the profit.  :dontask:


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on June 05, 2017, 05:54:47 PM
Liking Flyboy in the 5.25 at Leicester tomorrow. 13/2

First run up for Fahey from O'Meara was a real eyecatcher for me, and the extra furlong should help.

He doesn't look the most resolute, and needs kidding along, but if Fahey has learnt anything from the first run, at 4 pounds lower than his last win, he could capitalise on the recent move.


Into 3-1 generally. almost worth laying back and taking the profit.  :dontask:

Great tip mate. I thought we were getting there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 05, 2017, 10:16:31 PM
While its quiet, lets have another stab for the thread.

I hate backing horses over 12 stone over jumps and 10 stone on the flat. I also hate backing at Chepstow. However in the  I do like the look of Munfallet in the 3.30.

It is a proven winner, over C&D, and comes fresh from a race at Thirsk that looks very solid indeed, with the winner Naggers running well again and My Name is Rio, coming second, who was behind Munfallet.

Not my usual price at 4-1, but looks easily the best horse in this race if it runs a similar race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 06, 2017, 03:47:20 PM
While its quiet, lets have another stab for the thread.

I hate backing horses over 12 stone over jumps and 10 stone on the flat. I also hate backing at Chepstow. However in the  I do like the look of Munfallet in the 3.30.

It is a proven winner, over C&D, and comes fresh from a race at Thirsk that looks very solid indeed, with the winner Naggers running well again and My Name is Rio, coming second, who was behind Munfallet.

Not my usual price at 4-1, but looks easily the best horse in this race if it runs a similar race.


Weight told, and of course, like all horses you lump on ew, it came 4th.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 06, 2017, 09:41:46 PM
Keep it bubbling along.

Tomorrow I shall be backing Gerry the Glover 4.10 Hamilton 5-1 ew Laddies. Keeps dropping in the weights, and a fast finishing 3rd LTO. Was a promising sort a while back, without stepping up after some promising runs on soft.

Looked to finally be getting back in the grove, and Ellisons horses looked a bit more perky the last week or so.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 08, 2017, 01:02:19 PM
Non runner yesterday,so try, try again.

Zamadance in the 2.10 Haydock, has caught my eye the last couple of times, pulling quite hard early, but still running on at the end.

I am hoping the drop in class and the soft ground, which his pedigree suggests he will handle, help him to settle better early doors.

Looks rather tasty at 20-1 for a speculative ew small flutter. If not today, keep your eye on him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 08, 2017, 02:17:58 PM
Favourite far too good for them, and as ever, on here, it seems, my good ew thing finishes 4th. ::)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on June 08, 2017, 03:13:40 PM
Dont know whats worse, 2nd when you bet win, or 4th when e/w >:(

What do you think of Rantan in 3.40, looks a weaker race than some of recent runs with not too much in form in race, Art collection up in weights since wins, main man on board soft ground.....5/2 tho....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 08, 2017, 03:26:06 PM
Happy to contribute today, been on a heater of late. 

In the 3:30 at Ripon, I am against the favourite.  It looked a promising type on debut but that form is hardly inspiring.  Still he routed them that day.  On reappearance he misbehaved and decided not to enter the stall that has to be a negative still and the lack of a recent run I would doubt he is fully tuned. 

With the above in mind I ended up with 2 horses I wanted to have on my side, and I've backed both e/w (just in case the fav is decent).

Gurkha Friend seems to love it around here, the drop down in trip shouldn't inconvenience him too much and he should be fine with the ground. 
Roller is with an operation who do well around here and the trainer and jockey combo is one I like.  Evans claim has been well looked after.  No issues with the ground.

Sadly they are 2nd and 3rd in the betting but happy with a win and a place, had a few quid on the reverse as well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 08, 2017, 03:30:17 PM
Dont know whats worse, 2nd when you bet win, or 4th when e/w >:(

What do you think of Rantan in 3.40, looks a weaker race than some of recent runs with not too much in form in race, Art collection up in weights since wins, main man on board soft ground.....5/2 tho....

Tough race.

Needless to say I follow Adams Ale, and first time for Marjorie could be the time. Signor been knocking on the door, and Rantan could well win, but as you say hes short.

With just 7 I have decided to leave it. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 08, 2017, 03:43:40 PM
Dont know whats worse, 2nd when you bet win, or 4th when e/w >:(

What do you think of Rantan in 3.40, looks a weaker race than some of recent runs with not too much in form in race, Art collection up in weights since wins, main man on board soft ground.....5/2 tho....

Tough race.

Needless to say I follow Adams Ale, and first time for Marjorie could be the time. Signor been knocking on the door, and Rantan could well win, but as you say hes short.

With just 7 I have decided to leave it. GL

Wow. How well did the Ale travel. She has sure done some good work with the old boy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on June 08, 2017, 03:46:36 PM
nice price too....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on June 08, 2017, 03:51:44 PM
Happy to contribute today, been on a heater of late. 

In the 3:30 at Ripon, I am against the favourite.  It looked a promising type on debut but that form is hardly inspiring.  Still he routed them that day.  On reappearance he misbehaved and decided not to enter the stall that has to be a negative still and the lack of a recent run I would doubt he is fully tuned. 

With the above in mind I ended up with 2 horses I wanted to have on my side, and I've backed both e/w (just in case the fav is decent).

Gurkha Friend seems to love it around here, the drop down in trip shouldn't inconvenience him too much and he should be fine with the ground. 
Roller is with an operation who do well around here and the trainer and jockey combo is one I like.  Evans claim has been well looked after.  No issues with the ground.

Sadly they are 2nd and 3rd in the betting but happy with a win and a place, had a few quid on the reverse as well.

VUL PB not to get the win there.  Just a friendly word of advice.  Never back ew in 11 runner hcaps at 1/5 1,2,3 place terms.  11 runner hcaps are literally the nut worse race to ever bet ew in.  You are literally always doing your bollocks win, lose or draw long term before the race starts.  If you want to back win and place go on the betfair exchange and the place price you get will be substantially bigger.  Roller was nearly 6/4 to place (before the rule 4 deduction) when he was 9/2 on the betting show and 9/10 to place effectively for example.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 08, 2017, 03:52:48 PM
Thanks Arb.  Noted. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 08, 2017, 03:59:50 PM
nice price too....


Stick him in your notebook for the Great St Wilfred at Ripon, I reckon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 08, 2017, 04:23:04 PM
4:30 Ripon - I can't get away from the Fav he had 2 future winners behind him on debut, I think he should be ok on the ground. 

The stout horse is dropping 2 furlong after leading for the majority of race last time out only to tire late on and drop to 12th.  Clearly the danger.  don't think too much of Bob Maxwell think that finishes behind Anif who is sure to improve for debut. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 08, 2017, 08:17:14 PM
Try and finish the working week with a winner.

Saw Exotic Guest run at Catterick last week, and had all the hallmarks of a typical Ruth Carr horse about to strike winning form.

It's a couple of pounds below its last winning mark, and as long as it gets a trouble free run should relish the uphill finish at Carlisle in the 2.40.

17-2 with Hills, and I just hope we keep the dead 8. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on June 09, 2017, 02:43:59 PM
Try and finish the working week with a winner.

Saw Exotic Guest run at Catterick last week, and had all the hallmarks of a typical Ruth Carr horse about to strike winning form.

It's a couple of pounds below its last winning mark, and as long as it gets a trouble free run should relish the uphill finish at Carlisle in the 2.40.

17-2 with Hills, and I just hope we keep the dead 8. GL

Nice one Adz

Shame I only had the change in my account on it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: engy on June 09, 2017, 03:12:42 PM
Missed this but nice 8/1 shot adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 09, 2017, 03:19:19 PM
Good stuff.

Knew we would get there in the end.....we always do ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 09, 2017, 04:45:04 PM
Well done mate.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on June 09, 2017, 04:59:21 PM
Nice one Adz & thanks: 7 runners didn't hurt, in the end  ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on June 09, 2017, 05:27:26 PM
Thank you Adz


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on June 09, 2017, 05:41:18 PM
Well done today Adz and well done on getting the thread going again. Backed all the others but missed out today, fml! We've had some great touches over the years, I'll start contributing again when I can.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2017, 08:53:47 AM
Morning.

I'm not travelling again this week, so lets try and keep thing rolling.

I love these 2m plus handicaps at Pontefract 7.10,where the form lines always tie in so well, as its the same old boys time and again.

Last time out Frederic comfortably beat Teak at Carlisle.

However, he has a massive turnaround at the weights with Teak, and Teak travelled very well in that race until Frederic kicked on. A sub standard run on the AW in between has thrown people of the Teak scent, but I am prepared to overlook it and think he rates a knocking ew bet at 11-1.

As Riptide is back at Ponte and this is worth a few extra pounds. Will be having a little ew on him too at 20-1.

Yes, arbboy will be on telling me what a dreadful, clueless punter I am for backing ew in a 13 runner race, but hey ho. ;whistle;

Finally I will chuck a few quid win only on Rock on Bollinski, who looks a right monkey at times, but if Ellison decides today is the day the 40-1 is crazy.

Rarely back more than two in races outside the big festivals, but at these prices(and it may well backfire), I couldnt resist. GL



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 12, 2017, 03:52:10 PM
Morning.

I'm not travelling again this week, so lets try and keep thing rolling.

I love these 2m plus handicaps at Pontefract 7.10,where the form lines always tie in so well, as its the same old boys time and again.

Last time out Frederic comfortably beat Teak at Carlisle.

However, he has a massive turnaround at the weights with Teak, and Teak travelled very well in that race until Frederic kicked on. A sub standard run on the AW in between has thrown people of the Teak scent, but I am prepared to overlook it and think he rates a knocking ew bet at 11-1.

As Riptide is back at Ponte and this is worth a few extra pounds. Will be having a little ew on him too at 20-1.

Yes, arbboy will be on telling me what a dreadful, clueless punter I am for backing ew in a 13 runner race, but hey ho. ;whistle;

Finally I will chuck a few quid win only on Rock on Bollinski, who looks a right monkey at times, but if Ellison decides today is the day the 40-1 is crazy.

Rarely back more than two in races outside the big festivals, but at these prices(and it may well backfire), I couldnt resist. GL



I'm in!

A client of mine is friends with the owner of Gworn he text me earlier to say it was worth a small e/w bet but they thought the 4lb increase might be a bit much.  It proved to be the case today, I missed the race but seen the result so not sure if it got nabbed close home.  I never managed a bet as I've been chasing my tail after a few days off.  Would have been irked had it won. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on June 12, 2017, 07:04:51 PM
dreaded 11 runners now adz!  Even worse.  Gl son.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 12, 2017, 07:20:51 PM
Teak backed into 11/2, and after getting trapped behind horses round the final bend stayed on well for.......4th.

Bollinski lost what he was beaten at the start, and Riptide was just plain poor.

All could have done with a stronger pace, and we done our money.

Next!! ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 13, 2017, 08:41:27 AM
Don't think I have ever put up a two year old or a horse at such a short price, but I was so impressed by Initiative debut at Newmarket, I promised to back it next time out.

In the 2.00 at Salisbury it is available at 6-4, which could look amazing value at 2.10.

In its debut it missed the break, pulled like a train for two furlongs, switched about 5 times and still flew up the hill to finish a close second in a well strung out field.

If it has learnt anything from that, and we dont have a superstar amongst the newcomers, this should win easily.......should! :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on June 13, 2017, 01:31:03 PM
James Bowen , ( son of Trainer Peter ) broke the record for most point to point wins in a season for a novice this year. He had a fantastic record of 30 wins in 55 rides  :) apparently next season he will be a conditional for Nicky Henderson, interesting to see how he gets on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on June 13, 2017, 02:02:45 PM
Don't think I have ever put up a two year old or a horse at such a short price, but I was so impressed by Initiative debut at Newmarket, I promised to back it next time out.

In the 2.00 at Salisbury it is available at 6-4, which could look amazing value at 2.10.

In its debut it missed the break, pulled like a train for two furlongs, switched about 5 times and still flew up the hill to finish a close second in a well strung out field.

If it has learnt anything from that, and we dont have a superstar amongst the newcomers, this should win easily.......should! :D

Good stuff Adz.  Cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on June 13, 2017, 02:03:43 PM
Another nice one! Thanks Adz.

Number 6 worth watching in the future seemed to be flying at the end but just timed it wrong?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 13, 2017, 02:05:42 PM
Don't think I have ever put up a two year old or a horse at such a short price, but I was so impressed by Initiative debut at Newmarket, I promised to back it next time out.

In the 2.00 at Salisbury it is available at 6-4, which could look amazing value at 2.10.

In its debut it missed the break, pulled like a train for two furlongs, switched about 5 times and still flew up the hill to finish a close second in a well strung out field.

If it has learnt anything from that, and we dont have a superstar amongst the newcomers, this should win easily.......should! :D


Still green as grass, as it looked clueless, but won easy enough despite this. Puts us back on track, landing a little touch at 6/5.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 13, 2017, 09:47:09 PM
Was looking at Twin Point in the last at Kempton, but on a dreadful pre Ascot type days racing, I am having a small ew bet on Honeysuckle Lil at Hamilton in the 7.25.

Lil has been crawling down the weights, because of her consistency, but I quite like the drop to 5 furlongs at Hamilton, with a few speedballs likely to create a nice pace up front, it could be left for Lil to pick up the pieces as her stamina kicks in.

Can't say I am over confident as her paper form over 5F isn't great, but her last few runs suggest to me it is worth trying again.

11-2 with Padraig, but generally 5-1 seems fair, and I would be surprised to see her drift.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 14, 2017, 03:00:32 PM
Was looking at Twin Point in the last at Kempton, but on a dreadful pre Ascot type days racing, I am having a small ew bet on Honeysuckle Lil at Hamilton in the 7.25.

Lil has been crawling down the weights, because of her consistency, but I quite like the drop to 5 furlongs at Hamilton, with a few speedballs likely to create a nice pace up front, it could be left for Lil to pick up the pieces as her stamina kicks in.

Can't say I am over confident as her paper form over 5F isn't great, but her last few runs suggest to me it is worth trying again.

11-2 with Padraig, but generally 5-1 seems fair, and I would be surprised to see her drift.

Pretty dry day up here yesterday both in Glasgow and Hamilton sun has been out most of today with a bit of cloud so the ground likely to be quick as there's been a breeze as well if this comes into your thinking.  I know there used to be a bias when it was wet but apparently that has been sorted out??


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 14, 2017, 07:13:18 PM
Wasnt too worried about the ground. I felt some of the middle pace she had been showing was worth a try at 5f.

Been backed into 3-1, so maybe someone else thinks so too!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 14, 2017, 07:30:10 PM
Was looking at Twin Point in the last at Kempton, but on a dreadful pre Ascot type days racing, I am having a small ew bet on Honeysuckle Lil at Hamilton in the 7.25.

Lil has been crawling down the weights, because of her consistency, but I quite like the drop to 5 furlongs at Hamilton, with a few speedballs likely to create a nice pace up front, it could be left for Lil to pick up the pieces as her stamina kicks in.

Can't say I am over confident as her paper form over 5F isn't great, but her last few runs suggest to me it is worth trying again.

11-2 with Padraig, but generally 5-1 seems fair, and I would be surprised to see her drift.


2nd, no damage done, and race run as hoped, bar the progressive winner.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 14, 2017, 09:26:47 PM
Twin Point also narrowly beaten into second. Frustrating.


Another tricky day tomorrow and I am looking to take on a shortie in the 4.50 at Newbury.

Brimham Rocks was very impressive last time out dotting up at Haydock. Now penalised, and on different ground,  I like the ew claims of Star Maker of Sly Kirk, who has been a little unlucky last couple of efforts. Newbury is a tough place to get unlucky at(famous last words), but at 10-1 I think we have a nice opportunity. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on June 15, 2017, 01:40:35 PM

War Whisper notts 3.20 seems ok @ 9-1 ew with Shy for those that can get on.  Good run over 6 at ascot two runs ago and back at that today.  Still a colt at 4, which seems to indicate that connections can see some promise that perhaps hasn't yet materialised on the course?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on June 15, 2017, 02:12:35 PM
Anyone like anything at Uttox tonight?  Doesn't look the easiest of cards.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on June 15, 2017, 03:08:31 PM
Uttoxeter card looks as nasty as you can get from a betting perspective.
NOT AT ALL for the untouchables in 6.55 prob wont be winning today but looks one to keep an eye on for the future,
beer tent would be my tip :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on June 15, 2017, 03:12:21 PM
Uttoxeter card looks as nasty as you can get from a betting perspective.
NOT AT ALL for the untouchables in 6.55 prob wont be winning today but looks one to keep an eye on for the future,
beer tent would be my tip :D

There will be a lot of birds out in the sun tonight with nothing on.  Sara Cox is DJ'ing after racing i think. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on June 15, 2017, 03:13:46 PM
Pipe horse in the first at a big price might find improvement in first handicap, but guesswork really.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on June 15, 2017, 03:22:44 PM
Paddy Brennan making the long drive from Fontwell after the 220pm race to get to Uttox for 2 rides including the first at 555pm. He rides for the Rooney's in the 625pm as well. That is a fair old drive to do around rush hour.  Google maps says its 203 miles and 4 hours!  Surely he isn't flying it in a chopper for a £2500 to the winner class 5 race at Uttox.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on June 15, 2017, 03:25:50 PM
Icanmotor is on a career high mark by a long way too. The other one not ran for 400 odd days, both short too.....tricky


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 15, 2017, 07:32:37 PM
Twin Point also narrowly beaten into second. Frustrating.


Another tricky day tomorrow and I am looking to take on a shortie in the 4.50 at Newbury.

Brimham Rocks was very impressive last time out dotting up at Haydock. Now penalised, and on different ground,  I like the ew claims of Star Maker of Sly Kirk, who has been a little unlucky last couple of efforts. Newbury is a tough place to get unlucky at(famous last words), but at 10-1 I think we have a nice opportunity. GL


Rubbish today.
 
Was rather annoying as was tanking into the straight and then lost the plot as the leader slowed it down.

Glad to see the thread has some legs again, and hopefully more will post again now. GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on June 15, 2017, 09:21:18 PM
Paddy Brennan making the long drive from Fontwell after the 220pm race to get to Uttox for 2 rides including the first at 555pm. He rides for the Rooney's in the 625pm as well. That is a fair old drive to do around rush hour.  Google maps says its 203 miles and 4 hours!  Surely he isn't flying it in a chopper for a £2500 to the winner class 5 race at Uttox.

Made the helicopter worthwhile Paddy did.  Absolutely shit up on the better ride of the two. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on June 16, 2017, 09:04:47 AM
At York today, in the relatively new parade ring restaurant.

Anything you guys fancy?

Need a few winners to cover the cost of tickets in there!!!  :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on June 16, 2017, 09:23:57 AM
At York today, in the relatively new parade ring restaurant.

Anything you guys fancy?

Need a few winners to cover the cost of tickets in there!!!  :D

Trip report once you've returned please Rick.

Was tempted to book this restaurant for later in the season.

Will PM you if I have any bets at York today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 16, 2017, 10:52:47 AM
At York today, in the relatively new parade ring restaurant.

Anything you guys fancy?

Need a few winners to cover the cost of tickets in there!!!  :D

I looked through the card during the night and I thought it was really tough.

Race 1 - I'm most likely going to be playing with the fav should mprove from 1st to 2nd run it wasn't given a tough time on debut, form from 1st race isn't too strong.  But on paper looks a decent type.  Any market support for Rumshak would be interesting for me as trainer and jockey combo been on a bit of a heater or at least feels like it over last couple of weeks.

Race 2 - Is this one of these don't back e/w races Arb talks about.  I'd be tempted to have 2 darts e/w as I don't trust the favourite.  But sure that is bad from a betting angle. Burguillos and Rainbow Rebel are the 2 I like. 

Race 3 - Meh, Just didn't like  it.  On paper Our Little Pony looked the bet but the form doesn't scream out as strong.

Race 4 - I really liked Sun Lover, unexposed has potential to improve and very good jockey/trainer combo.  I'm sure this is the sort of race Channing or Camel will have a long shot in that I have totally missed.

Race 5 - Southern Belle is one I have had in my tracker since debut mostly because I am too lazy to remove but it remains one with potential and the trainer excells in sprints.  I also liked Queen in Waiting but I'm not convinced it full gets 6f. 

Race 6 - My eye was drawn to the fact Mulrennan was on Belabour instead of Tranpennine Star.  Big price as well.

Race 7 - Apprentice races I tend to go with the jockey that impresses me and Adam McNammara gets the tick here on the fav. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 16, 2017, 12:39:44 PM
One day Ballymore Castle will get a clear passage, maybe today in the 3.30.

For similar reasons I like Peterhouse in the last with Clifford Lee on top.

And for a real bansai, there has been a lot of flappy arms on whip waving on Stipulate for a few runs now. There has been a bit of money for it in the 2.20, and the shrewd Mr Ellison could be letting him finally have a race!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 16, 2017, 04:18:35 PM
SDS on a tear up at Sandown.  Bookies running for cover with his mount in the next. 



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on June 16, 2017, 11:02:46 PM
Thanks to Camel, Pokerbroker and Adz for the replies about York.

Just crawled in. Cracking day, promise I'll post about it when I'm sober.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 17, 2017, 12:27:33 AM
I'd an ok day at York.  5/6 in the place pot obvs let down in 6th race had 2 picks as well.

Made a small profit, couple of near misses could have made it a very good day..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on June 17, 2017, 10:39:58 AM
Lovely day yesterday. I go to York 3-4 times a year and think it is probably the best track in the country, especially if you go with your other half.

The Parade Ring Restaurant is expensive but is a great way to enjoy a day at the races as a treat.

The staff there are excellent. Craig the manager gave us owners and trainers badges and arranged for us to have a look downstairs. The facilities at York are now really top notch, the jockey's are really well looked after. Had a good look around the jockey's area, four or five were in the sauna now built into the changing area. If you do go, try to get talking to Craig, nice guy and super helpful.

Malcolm that runs the facilities downstairs was really helpful, gave us a look around the pre parade ring and we saw the horses cooling down after the third race. The new facilities include cool down fans for the horses too. You can tell the staff there just love racing and horses. My wife loved seeing the horses close up.

The package gives you a three course lunch and afternoon tea. Good quality food and they will let you take your time. The balcony there gives you a great view of the course.

It wouldn't be something to do regularly but as I've said, as a treat its well worth it.

Had e/w returns from Classic Seniority and Burguillos. Winners with Tulip Fever, Eartha Kitt and Opposition. Two straight forecasts in too. So overall a profitable day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on June 17, 2017, 10:54:07 AM
Lovely day yesterday. I go to York 3-4 times a year and think it is probably the best track in the country, especially if you go with your other half.

The Parade Ring Restaurant is expensive but is a great way to enjoy a day at the races as a treat.

The staff there are excellent. Craig the manager gave us owners and trainers badges and arranged for us to have a look downstairs. The facilities at York are now really top notch, the jockey's are really well looked after. Had a good look around the jockey's area, four or five were in the sauna now built into the changing area. If you do go, try to get talking to Craig, nice guy and super helpful.

Malcolm that runs the facilities downstairs was really helpful, gave us a look around the pre parade ring and we saw the horses cooling down after the third race. The new facilities include cool down fans for the horses too. You can tell the staff there just love racing and horses. My wife loved seeing the horses close up.

The package gives you a three course lunch and afternoon tea. Good quality food and they will let you take your time. The balcony there gives you a great view of the course.

It wouldn't be something to do regularly but as I've said, as a treat its well worth it.

Had e/w returns from Classic Seniority and Burguillos. Winners with Tulip Fever, Eartha Kitt and Opposition. Two straight forecasts in too. So overall a profitable day.

That sounds like a perfect day. I'm taking my girlfriend to Ascot on Thursday, I'd settle for 30% of how golden it sounds like you were yesterday.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 17, 2017, 01:35:12 PM
Things look really competitive today at both York and Mussy.  I've threw a few darts at some though. 

I really liked Donny Belle in the opener at Mussy, I know Bryan Smart has recently got the all clear for Equine Herpies from a yard next door but just couldn't see Palmer winning this race. 

Donny Belle form was given a boost yesterday when Tulip Fever won the opener at York.  I took 3/1 which is dwarfed now by the 11/2 thankfully I still have BOG. 

My other bets are:

York 17:15 My Dad Syd      
York 15:30 Kodiline                  
York 14:20 Gurkha Friend            
Musselburgh 14:05 Paddy Power

E/w Lucky 15 and a very speculative e/w acca.

Musselburgh 14:35 Khamaary         
York 13:50 Charismatic Man                  
York 14:55 Thikriyaat

£25 patent

York 16:40   Arbalet                  
Bath 14:25   Subjective                  
Bath 15:00   Awesome

£100 treble.

(Also got the above with Donny Belle in a 4 fold/ Lucky 15



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 17, 2017, 02:44:07 PM
Great start.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 17, 2017, 02:58:29 PM
How the hell does this buffoon get to commentate at the day's feature meeting?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on June 17, 2017, 02:59:32 PM

ho ho HO!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 17, 2017, 03:07:57 PM
How the hell does this buffoon get to commentate at the day's feature meeting?

MCYeeHaa?

I like him, there is far too much pretentiousness about Racing and it's no wonder it's dying on its arse.  Needs more controversial figures like Chapman.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 17, 2017, 03:09:15 PM
Really liked Desert Law in the Sprint Cup but I think it's going to find it difficult to get involved from the 3 box. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 17, 2017, 04:02:53 PM
How the hell does this buffoon get to commentate at the day's feature meeting?

MCYeeHaa?

I like him, there is far too much pretentiousness about Racing and it's no wonder it's dying on its arse.  Needs more controversial figures like Chapman.

Tomm-ho-ho-ho, not Chapman.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 17, 2017, 04:49:44 PM
How the hell does this buffoon get to commentate at the day's feature meeting?

MCYeeHaa?

I like him, there is far too much pretentiousness about Racing and it's no wonder it's dying on its arse.  Needs more controversial figures like Chapman.

Tomm-ho-ho-ho, not Chapman.

Yeah, he's terrible.  I end up muting him.

Couple o f races back he came out with if you have backed the inner you have backed a winner.  And those 3 are well clear gives you the firs 2 and then says its tight for 3rd.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on June 18, 2017, 01:17:08 AM
Chapman as bad if not worse than hohoho


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on June 20, 2017, 02:17:42 PM
Stalls down the centre at Thirsk I understand, but have the jockeys been instructed to stay there?

Fast ground, so the stands' rail will always be quicker.

Looks like the powers that be have turned another draw course into a Newbury/Haydock.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 20, 2017, 02:37:34 PM
Stalls down the centre at Thirsk I understand, but have the jockeys been instructed to stay there?

Fast ground, so the stands' rail will always be quicker.

Looks like the powers that be have turned another draw course into a Newbury/Haydock.

Caught out by it as went with a high draw.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 25, 2017, 02:19:15 PM
Is there any significance of Ryan Moore turning up at Pontefract this afternoon for 3 rides following Royal Ascot? 

Looks like a full week at home for Ryan next week with engagements at Windsor on Monday, Salisbury/Kempton on Wedneday and then it's Newmarket on Thursday before Doncaster on the Friday. 

Looking at the races he has today, Stoute's normally improve for their first run, I don't recall him having too many 2 year olds this season.  IfI am honest their first time out 2 year olds unless there is significant market support I normally just run the red pen through.  So I'd be happy to oppose the favourite procedure, the easiest thing to do would be to bet the Johnston horse as its likely to improve from the first run but something I have been doing lately is siding with the apprentices with a 5 or 7 pound claim in sprint races and its been fairly successful so I'll have a small bit e/w on the Hollinshead/Lee combo Madame Jo Jo at 33/1.  Will also try and get a bit of the place action on Betfair if it's appealing.

Abingdon looks the most solid of his 3 rides today and is hard to oppose in the 3:30.  The Haggas horse could be anything though, Hagas is a trainer I like to follow when he has one that starts to run up a sequence.  He's moved this one up fairly quickly from an ordinary handicap at Newbury where the form doesn't stand up to much scrutiny into listed class, however having been given 64 days  after 3 races in 3 months I think this could be capable of improving a fair bit, probably backing Abingdon to win and might have a few bob on the forecast. 

At the weight Aristocratic (4:30) has a lot to do to win this won, I'm not massively keen on taking handicappers in flat races carring 10st.  In a 5 runner field this could easily turn into a tactical battle as well.  Pattie ran in listed company last time finishing 6th of 8 and the drop in trip could prove her undoing. 

I'm going to be fairly boring and say Abingdon is his best ride out the 3.  in the 4:30 I'm going to take on the fav with Rinaria. 



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on June 25, 2017, 02:39:51 PM
Lolz, I did start writing this ages ago and just for got to hit post.  Even although I posted 19 minutes after the first race I did bet the wrong horse although called the race right.  Almost.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on June 28, 2017, 11:22:57 AM
Going to have a trot down to Worcester today and tick another course off the list.  Anyone fancy anything?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on June 28, 2017, 01:40:02 PM
Going to have a trot down to Worcester today and tick another course off the list.  Anyone fancy anything?

Fields of 7 or less means focus on Win only, I think. Nichols doesn't send shed loads to WOR, but those he does send strike 1/3 of the time. I like both of his in the first two - 2:20 Black Corton Eves 2:50 Rebel Rebellion 6/1 (Miss Frost won yesterday for Nicholls in a tricky race, and this one has dropped down the weights and the drop in trip should also suit)

In the 4:20 I'd go for Gustave Mahler (the market has already spoken) since it seems the Skeltons have gone off the boil just recently

Good luck!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Weetabix on June 28, 2017, 02:28:02 PM
Tinkertime Astrum and cottersrock


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on July 04, 2017, 08:34:50 PM
Thirsk 3:30 Englishman 8/1

Ran a very good 2nd in a Class 2 at Windsor on Sunday, and now turned out quickly oop north with Paul Mulrennan on top. The price is inviting, looking a little like a freeroll if he repeats the Windsor effort.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on July 05, 2017, 02:07:44 PM
Stalls down the centre at Thirsk I understand, but have the jockeys been instructed to stay there?

Fast ground, so the stands' rail will always be quicker.

Looks like the powers that be have turned another draw course into a Newbury/Haydock.

Course ruined. Stalls centre again, ground ridiculously overwatered. It's like Kirkland Tellwright all over again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on July 05, 2017, 02:16:24 PM
Stalls down the centre at Thirsk I understand, but have the jockeys been instructed to stay there?

Fast ground, so the stands' rail will always be quicker.

Looks like the powers that be have turned another draw course into a Newbury/Haydock.

Course ruined. Stalls centre again, ground ridiculously overwatered. It's like Kirkland Tellwright all over again.

Official going "Good" looks a bit ridiculous. Having said which, I can't complain too much, having backed the 8-1 winner of the first. Just have to look carefully at form on g/s.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on July 05, 2017, 03:32:11 PM
Stalls down the centre at Thirsk I understand, but have the jockeys been instructed to stay there?

Fast ground, so the stands' rail will always be quicker.

Looks like the powers that be have turned another draw course into a Newbury/Haydock.

Course ruined. Stalls centre again, ground ridiculously overwatered. It's like Kirkland Tellwright all over again.

Official going "Good" looks a bit ridiculous. Having said which, I can't complain too much, having backed the 8-1 winner of the first. Just have to look carefully at form on g/s.
;tracet;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on July 05, 2017, 09:15:00 PM
Stalls down the centre at Thirsk I understand, but have the jockeys been instructed to stay there?

Fast ground, so the stands' rail will always be quicker.

Looks like the powers that be have turned another draw course into a Newbury/Haydock.

Course ruined. Stalls centre again, ground ridiculously overwatered. It's like Kirkland Tellwright all over again.

Official going "Good" looks a bit ridiculous. Having said which, I can't complain too much, having backed the 8-1 winner of the first. Just have to look carefully at form on g/s.
;tracet;

Sorry about that. I'm still learning the etiquette here.
 ;oopsy; ;scarymoment;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on July 06, 2017, 03:00:39 PM
 :) no probs mate .
Anastazia should go well at Yar 3.20, on a winning mark likes the track/ground, 6/1........what can go wrong


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on July 06, 2017, 03:34:49 PM
Just seen the going is now soft, not so sure about that as not run so much on it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on July 07, 2017, 01:14:43 PM
Sandown for Laydeeez Day today. They do like to get dressed up, don't they.

Fancy Chapple-Hyam's got Direct Times ready after an absence in the first, but looking for help beyond the Favs on the rest of the card. Or should we just lump on Roussel, Master of Wine, Ayrad, Euginio, UAE King & Almanack?

Any thoughts?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on July 15, 2017, 11:31:24 AM
I've bet all of Kevin Ryan's handicappers (8 in total)
In silly multiples and singles today. Yard Been totally
Out of form this year so they're all well handicapped and
I sense the yard coming bang into form now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on July 15, 2017, 02:03:17 PM
Lol great start 5th with 4 places trying to come from the back at York
Seldom a good idea


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on July 15, 2017, 04:57:52 PM
Ground at Hamilton is described as good this evening its rained up here pretty constantly since about 7pm last night. 

Anyone see anything that should like it soft?  I'd think over the sprints we want something that stays a little further as well. 

I might jump a taxi up to the course. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on July 15, 2017, 05:02:44 PM
Ground at Hamilton is described as good this evening its rained up here pretty constantly since about 7pm last night. 

Anyone see anything that should like it soft?  I'd think over the sprints we want something that stays a little further as well. 

I might jump a taxi up to the course. 

Stands side rail favoured when it is soft usually.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on July 15, 2017, 06:11:56 PM
Ground at Hamilton is described as good this evening its rained up here pretty constantly since about 7pm last night. 

Anyone see anything that should like it soft?  I'd think over the sprints we want something that stays a little further as well. 

I might jump a taxi up to the course. 

Stands side rail favoured when it is soft usually.

First winner drawn 9 of 9 and raced hard up the stand side rail.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on July 15, 2017, 06:17:56 PM
Bronze Beau looks a great bet in the next.

Front runner, course specialist, loves the soft. Drawn 7 of 8 (original drawn 8 is a NR).



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 20, 2017, 07:13:42 AM


Terrible fall for Ana O'Brien, riding for brother Joseph at Killarney on Tuesday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/40661987


These jockeys are amazingly brave.

Whenever I see the emergency helicopter at a racecourse it sends shivers down my spine.

Hope she makes a full recovery.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Cavey007 on July 20, 2017, 08:22:26 AM


Terrible fall for Ana O'Brien, riding for brother Joseph at Killarney on Tuesday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/40661987


These jockeys are amazingly brave.

Whenever I see the emergency helicopter at a racecourse it sends shivers down my spine.

Hope she makes a full recovery.




Was nearly another horrible incident that day as well, a shoe came off a horse and luckily hit the lady behind on the helmet. An inch shorter would have hit her full in the face. Was not a good day. Think druids cross was put down too. (may have been another horse)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 20, 2017, 08:34:14 AM


Terrible fall for Ana O'Brien, riding for brother Joseph at Killarney on Tuesday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/40661987


These jockeys are amazingly brave.

Whenever I see the emergency helicopter at a racecourse it sends shivers down my spine.

Hope she makes a full recovery.




Was not a good day. Think druids cross was put down too. (may have been another horse)

Sadly, yes. Nasty do all round.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on July 21, 2017, 09:04:48 PM
Sad news from Haydock

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/40686921 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/40686921)

A stalls handler has died after an incident at Haydock on Friday.

Stephen Yarborough was flown to Whiston Hospital after being run over by the mobile starting stalls but later died, stalls operators RaceTech confirmed.


RIP


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 26, 2017, 09:57:05 AM
A Turkish geezer is promoting his new method for training racehorses.


http://www.itv.com/news/2017-07-11/the-future-of-racing-new-20m-machine-puts-horses-through-their-paces/


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 27, 2017, 08:40:28 AM
With all this rain around My Dream Boat at 25-1 could look v nice on Saturday in the King George.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on July 27, 2017, 03:42:24 PM
Absolute scenes here lads.

Dramatic news - the 'winner' of Yarmouth's opener, 2yo Mandarin Princess, was in fact 3yo stablemate Millie's Kiss. More to follow...

50/1 shot


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Simon Galloway on July 27, 2017, 04:05:36 PM
I'd backed Millies Kiss for the 3:15.

Normally when I back a horse in the 13:40, it has a fair chance to win the 3:15... not the other way around.

Interesting to see the excuse for being a NR in the 3:15.... "bit tired from her earlier race?"


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on July 27, 2017, 04:08:55 PM
There should be a pricing model which can historically decide what price Millie's Kiss would have been in the 1.40 and then re-settle all bets with deductions taken into account  :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on July 27, 2017, 04:20:51 PM
https://www.racingpost.com/news/news/drama-as-wrong-horse-wins-race/294547

Incredible scenes.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on July 27, 2017, 05:53:28 PM
https://www.racingpost.com/news/yarmouth-fiasco/what-action-the-bookies-are-taking/294574


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 27, 2017, 07:23:28 PM
With all this rain around My Dream Boat at 25-1 could look v nice on Saturday in the King George.


FWIW, there was the mother of all rainstorms this afternoon in Surrey, lasted a good 40 minutes & it was absolutely torrential.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on July 27, 2017, 09:37:43 PM
Thirsk with the camel tomorrow 🐴🐴


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on July 30, 2017, 09:03:03 AM
In 2.30 Pontefract today I like liquid Gold at 5/2 (and had a small saver on Jan De Heem 9-1)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on July 30, 2017, 08:53:26 PM
Glorious Goodwood has come round quickly.

Shameless Seamus is having his last mud fest.  Not sure how much watering he has been able to do with all the rain around.

No betting emporium this year? 

I can't say I have anything lined up yet.  Not sure my accounts will last the week. 

Lets go.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on July 30, 2017, 10:49:50 PM
Goodwood Cup on Tuesday seems to have been priced as Big Orange dead cert @ Evens.

Looking to take him on with an improver (won Group 2 race last time out) getting 13lbs weight in Stadivarius, and shouldn't mind the extra 2 furlongs.

Only potential negative is that ground softer than good may not be ideal.

Only 1/5 1-3, but 14-1 widely available looks decent.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on July 31, 2017, 12:43:10 PM
Our old mate from the TFT thread Dream Castle runs in the Lennox tomorrow.

We keep waiting for him to be dropped back to sprint distances, but personally I think he may just need a bit of cut.

His debut race, admittedly, against trees, was with some cut and he looked good, straight and true.

His race that caught our eye vs Barney Roy,was on firmish and he drifted when under pressure.

Then in the Guineas, he was one of the faster finishers, as they hit the rising ground(often a sign that hints at a better soft ground performer), which was over a mile.

In the Jersey he ran a strange race, pulling too hard for 5 furlongs, with no cover, but still having enough in the tank to finish 5th, but looking like perhaps the drop in trip would suit!!

A head scratcher indeed.

I like the look of him tomorrow in the Lennox stakes over an easy 7f with cut in the ground. Laddies went 14s for an hour or so earlier, but the general 12-1 against the older brigade looks worth a final throw of the dice to me.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 01, 2017, 08:24:42 AM
Goodwood Cup on Tuesday seems to have been priced as Big Orange dead cert @ Evens.

Looking to take him on with an improver (won Group 2 race last time out) getting 13lbs weight in Stadivarius, and shouldn't mind the extra 2 furlongs.

Only potential negative is that ground softer than good may not be ideal.

Only 1/5 1-3, but 14-1 widely available looks decent.



Nice bet.

I have backed Qewy myself at 29.

Of note is the feeble place market on betfair.  Qewy now 4.6/5.5 and you can get a whole £18 at 4.6.  It is a group 1 at Glorious Goodwood and not some tinpot race at Yarmouth.  Win only it is then.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 01, 2017, 09:47:49 AM
So easy to get drawn in to Goodwood but it's always a nightmare, especially when the ground has been changing everywhere during the weeks leading up to it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 01, 2017, 10:09:23 AM
So easy to get drawn in to Goodwood but it's always a nightmare, especially when the ground has been changing everywhere during the weeks leading up to it.

First race is already down to 16, with uncertain ground there is little hope of quarter first 4.  Might have a look closer the race.

Seamus can't have watered, but you never know.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 01, 2017, 12:51:36 PM
Our old mate from the TFT thread Dream Castle runs in the Lennox tomorrow.

We keep waiting for him to be dropped back to sprint distances, but personally I think he may just need a bit of cut.

His debut race, admittedly, against trees, was with some cut and he looked good, straight and true.

His race that caught our eye vs Barney Roy,was on firmish and he drifted when under pressure.

Then in the Guineas, he was one of the faster finishers, as they hit the rising ground(often a sign that hints at a better soft ground performer), which was over a mile.

In the Jersey he ran a strange race, pulling too hard for 5 furlongs, with no cover, but still having enough in the tank to finish 5th, but looking like perhaps the drop in trip would suit!!

A head scratcher indeed.

I like the look of him tomorrow in the Lennox stakes over an easy 7f with cut in the ground. Laddies went 14s for an hour or so earlier, but the general 12-1 against the older brigade looks worth a final throw of the dice to me.

Now 7/1 best Adz. 



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: FUN4FRASER on August 01, 2017, 01:37:41 PM
I've been told Librisa Breeze is fit and ready in the third so could be worth an interest EW @13-2

https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/goodwood/15:00/winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 01, 2017, 02:48:52 PM
I've been told Librisa Breeze is fit and ready in the third so could be worth an interest EW @13-2

https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/goodwood/15:00/winner

Backed that a couple weeks ago, and had a saver on Adz's yesterday.

Was hoping Limato would go to France, but we'll have to do it the hardy way :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 01, 2017, 02:57:20 PM
been looking and looking at this race but seems very tricky to me , not having a bet bet do like Home of the brave, esp with the draw , done nothing wrong lately.
Good luck with your bets.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: FUN4FRASER on August 01, 2017, 03:08:21 PM
I've been told Librisa Breeze is fit and ready in the third so could be worth an interest EW @13-2

https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/goodwood/15:00/winner

blocked 3 times  , wouldn't of caught the winner but one to  look out for next time


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on August 01, 2017, 03:10:05 PM
So easy to get drawn in to Goodwood but it's always a nightmare, especially when the ground has been changing everywhere during the weeks leading up to it.

Spot on Chompy. You can't Fabricate a Breton Rock.  :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: FUN4FRASER on August 01, 2017, 03:10:51 PM
anybody  else  thinking Big Orange is very short in the next  ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 01, 2017, 03:11:05 PM
I've been told Librisa Breeze is fit and ready in the third so could be worth an interest EW @13-2

https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/goodwood/15:00/winner

blocked 3 times  , wouldn't of caught the winner but one to  look out for next time

Backed Aclaim.  Dare say a few others were unlucky too.  Goodwood innit.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 01, 2017, 03:20:27 PM
anybody  else  thinking Big Orange is very short in the next  ?

I think it was and I am on Higher Power and Qewy, but Big Orange has drifted a fair bit now.  Not sure I'd be happy laying at 2.36/2.38. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 01, 2017, 03:20:49 PM
anybody  else  thinking Big Orange is very short in the next  ?

Prob about right  given won it last twice at 6s and 11/4, and has improved since then. rate well above most of them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 01, 2017, 03:24:17 PM
Think the ground is a bit softer than we've been led to believe.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 01, 2017, 03:26:02 PM
anybody  else  thinking Big Orange is very short in the next  ?

Prob about right  given won it last twice at 6s and 11/4, and has improved since then. rate well above most of them.

You'd worry a bit that his last race was too hard.  Ground is soft too, as Mark says.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on August 01, 2017, 03:30:22 PM
Think the ground is a bit softer than we've been led to believe.



Most definitely this.  Let the buyer beware. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on August 01, 2017, 03:42:20 PM
Goodwood Cup on Tuesday seems to have been priced as Big Orange dead cert @ Evens.

Looking to take him on with an improver (won Group 2 race last time out) getting 13lbs weight in Stadivarius, and shouldn't mind the extra 2 furlongs.

Only potential negative is that ground softer than good may not be ideal.

Only 1/5 1-3, but 14-1 widely available looks decent.



Top tipping, very well done. Loved the extra 2 furlongs, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 01, 2017, 03:42:33 PM
Goodwood Cup on Tuesday seems to have been priced as Big Orange dead cert @ Evens.

Looking to take him on with an improver (won Group 2 race last time out) getting 13lbs weight in Stadivarius, and shouldn't mind the extra 2 furlongs.

Only potential negative is that ground softer than good may not be ideal.

Only 1/5 1-3, but 14-1 widely available looks decent.



 ;applause; ;applause; ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 01, 2017, 03:43:05 PM
Nice one 4KS!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on August 01, 2017, 03:44:21 PM
good shout


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on August 01, 2017, 03:48:54 PM
Nice one 4KS!

Thanks Marky and others. I hope a few of you followed me in - though I wouldn't blame anyone for passing, since my recent suggestions have been disappointing.

It's nice to put one up that wins so well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on August 01, 2017, 03:53:25 PM
Nice one 4KS!

Thanks Marky and others. I hope a few of you followed me in - though I wouldn't blame anyone for passing, since my recent suggestions have been disappointing.

It's nice to put one up that wins so well.

Wouldn't worry about recent form, from what I've seen you come across as someone who at least tries to find value with a reason that looks to be considered. The results will come if you continue to put in the work.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: FUN4FRASER on August 01, 2017, 04:09:09 PM
Goodwood Cup on Tuesday seems to have been priced as Big Orange dead cert @ Evens.

Looking to take him on with an improver (won Group 2 race last time out) getting 13lbs weight in Stadivarius, and shouldn't mind the extra 2 furlongs.

Only potential negative is that ground softer than good may not be ideal.

Only 1/5 1-3, but 14-1 widely available looks decent.


thank you ...got some 10s ew


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on August 01, 2017, 05:19:09 PM
Nice one 4KS, got me out of the goodwood hole


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 01, 2017, 06:10:39 PM
Nice one 4KS, got me out of the goodwood hole

Surprised you didn't get 20s a few weeks back.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: booder on August 01, 2017, 06:35:27 PM
Nice one 4KS, got me out of the goodwood hole

Surprised you didn't get 20s a few weeks back.

 :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on August 01, 2017, 06:58:24 PM
Nice one 4KS, got me out of the goodwood hole

Surprised you didn't get 20s a few weeks back.

I do tend to get bigger prices, did I tell you about 33/1 I got on Sunderland?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 01, 2017, 08:26:03 PM
Nice one 4KS, got me out of the goodwood hole

Surprised you didn't get 20s a few weeks back.

I do tend to get bigger prices, did I tell you about 33/1 I got on Sunderland?

Treble with Breton Rock and Thechildren'strust?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: aaron1867 on August 01, 2017, 08:30:54 PM
Nice one 4KS, got me out of the goodwood hole

Surprised you didn't get 20s a few weeks back.

I do tend to get bigger prices, did I tell you about 33/1 I got on Sunderland?

Treble with Breton Rock and Thechildren'strust?

How did you know? Shame I added Qewy into it though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: FUN4FRASER on August 01, 2017, 08:38:43 PM
Nice one 4KS, got me out of the goodwood hole

Surprised you didn't get 20s a few weeks back.

I do tend to get bigger prices, did I tell you about 33/1 I got on Sunderland?

Go on my son   :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on August 02, 2017, 11:30:27 AM
Goodwood Wednesday

3:35 Sussex Stakes
Really can't see beyond Ribchester or Churchill for the win, but not much value there. With arm twisted, I'd go for Dettori on French raider Zelzal for the possible upset, but at 8/1 and with possible rain going against this one, it's best to wait till nearer the off. Rationale: it's won a Group 1 in France; its been held up perhaps too far back in the field & given too much to do in last race; Dettori is a master (IMO) at riding from the front and we could well see him tuck behind the front couple in a fast run race.
http://m.oddschecker.com/m/horse-racing/goodwood/15:35/winner

EDIT: Just seen Doobs' rec for this on TfT, written earlier this morning when price was 11 & 10 available. I bow to his superior knowledge, obv.

3:00 Molecomb Stakes
Invincible Army looks the one to me. Back down to the min trip is in its favour judging from its last race when fading over 6f in a Group 2 at Newmarket. That was only this colt's 3rd start against more experienced rivals. Should learn from that, and with a plum draw this looks like a solid "free" bet EW @ 5/1
http://m.oddschecker.com/m/horse-racing/goodwood/15:00/winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 02, 2017, 11:43:17 AM
Goodwood Wednesday

3:35 Sussex Stakes
Really can't see beyond Ribchester or Churchill for the win, but not much value there. With arm twisted, I'd go for Dettori on French raider Zelzal for the possible upset, but at 8/1 and with possible rain going against this one, it's best to wait till nearer the off. Rationale: it's won a Group 1 in France; its been held up perhaps too far back in the field & given too much to do in last race; Dettori is a master (IMO) at riding from the front and we could well see him tuck behind the front couple in a fast run race.
http://m.oddschecker.com/m/horse-racing/goodwood/15:35/winner

3:00 Molecomb Stakes
Invincible Army looks the one to me. Back down to the min trip is in its favour judging from its last race when fading over 6f in a Group 2 at Newmarket. That was only this colt's 3rd start against more experienced rivals. Should learn from that, and with a plum draw this looks like a solid "free" bet EW @ 5/1
http://m.oddschecker.com/m/horse-racing/goodwood/15:00/winner

Hello 4K

I put up that Zelzal in the Sussex on tft too.  If you are backing it, take the e/w it is gold.  Even if people don't like Zelzal, loads of them are great e/w.  Rich Trigg put up Here Comes When on there too.  If you get the 66/1, you get 13/1 the place, which is very good if it goes soft. 



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 02, 2017, 03:13:20 PM
Goodwood Wednesday

3:35 Sussex Stakes
Really can't see beyond Ribchester or Churchill for the win, but not much value there. With arm twisted, I'd go for Dettori on French raider Zelzal for the possible upset, but at 8/1 and with possible rain going against this one, it's best to wait till nearer the off. Rationale: it's won a Group 1 in France; its been held up perhaps too far back in the field & given too much to do in last race; Dettori is a master (IMO) at riding from the front and we could well see him tuck behind the front couple in a fast run race.
http://m.oddschecker.com/m/horse-racing/goodwood/15:35/winner

3:00 Molecomb Stakes
Invincible Army looks the one to me. Back down to the min trip is in its favour judging from its last race when fading over 6f in a Group 2 at Newmarket. That was only this colt's 3rd start against more experienced rivals. Should learn from that, and with a plum draw this looks like a solid "free" bet EW @ 5/1
http://m.oddschecker.com/m/horse-racing/goodwood/15:00/winner

Hello 4K

I put up that Zelzal in the Sussex on tft too.  If you are backing it, take the e/w it is gold.  Even if people don't like Zelzal, loads of them are great e/w.  Rich Trigg put up Here Comes When on there too.  If you get the 66/1, you get 13/1 the place, which is very good if it goes soft.  



Unlucky with Invincible Army, they are both likely very good.

At the risk of a bok.

Now Zelzal is best 7/1 and going.  Betfair now has the place as odds on (no more withdrawals pls).  Here Comes When is well backed too.  I am not sure why you think Soft is a negative.  He won a couple of earlier races on soft.

Ha ffs on the withdrawals.  Think it had gone by the time I posted.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on August 02, 2017, 03:52:32 PM
Goodwood Wednesday

3:35 Sussex Stakes
Really can't see beyond Ribchester or Churchill for the win, but not much value there. With arm twisted, I'd go for Dettori on French raider Zelzal for the possible upset, but at 8/1 and with possible rain going against this one, it's best to wait till nearer the off. Rationale: it's won a Group 1 in France; its been held up perhaps too far back in the field & given too much to do in last race; Dettori is a master (IMO) at riding from the front and we could well see him tuck behind the front couple in a fast run race.
http://m.oddschecker.com/m/horse-racing/goodwood/15:35/winner

3:00 Molecomb Stakes
Invincible Army looks the one to me. Back down to the min trip is in its favour judging from its last race when fading over 6f in a Group 2 at Newmarket. That was only this colt's 3rd start against more experienced rivals. Should learn from that, and with a plum draw this looks like a solid "free" bet EW @ 5/1
http://m.oddschecker.com/m/horse-racing/goodwood/15:00/winner

Hello 4K

I put up that Zelzal in the Sussex on tft too.  If you are backing it, take the e/w it is gold.  Even if people don't like Zelzal, loads of them are great e/w.  Rich Trigg put up Here Comes When on there too.  If you get the 66/1, you get 13/1 the place, which is very good if it goes soft.  



Unlucky with Invincible Army, they are both likely very good.

At the risk of a bok.

Now Zelzal is best 7/1 and going.  Betfair now has the place as odds on (no more withdrawals pls).  Here Comes When is well backed too.  I am not sure why you think Soft is a negative.  He won a couple of earlier races on soft.

Ha ffs on the withdrawals.  Think it had gone by the time I posted.

Re: Going
Zelzal's wins have been on Good - at least according to the RP. Either way, Zelzal not enough of a mudlover to cope with all the rain at Goodwood. Well done to all those who got on Here Comes When. I just didn't see all this rain coming 😕


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 02, 2017, 04:10:44 PM
Elsworth seems to be having a good time at Goodwood anyway.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on August 02, 2017, 08:00:04 PM
Top bombing Trigg!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on August 04, 2017, 10:43:22 PM
Goodwood 3:35

Any love for Polybius?
David Elsworth (Sir Dancealot) has said that a high draw would be preferred tomorrow: "Historically you are better drawn middle to stands side. By Saturday they will have been round that inside a couple of times. I thought he would be better drawn middle to high".
Elsworth has his wish, but so does Polybius, son of Oasis Dream. Should be ok on the ground, but would prefer it dryer ideally. Last time out he finished just 3/4L behind Danzeno in the Heritage Handicap at Ascot, not having had a clear run. This time he's 6lb better off in the weights. Meanwhile, Growl looks better on firmer; while only a neck behind Projection at Ascot in June and 4lbs better off tomorrow.

14/1 looks a good price and is widely available.

Everyday 1/4 5 places
Shy 1/5 7 places


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on August 05, 2017, 11:47:37 AM
Goodwood 3:35

Any love for Polybius?
David Elsworth (Sir Dancealot) has said that a high draw would be preferred tomorrow: "Historically you are better drawn middle to stands side. By Saturday they will have been round that inside a couple of times. I thought he would be better drawn middle to high".
Elsworth has his wish, but so does Polybius, son of Oasis Dream. Should be ok on the ground, but would prefer it dryer ideally. Last time out he finished just 3/4L behind Danzeno in the Heritage Handicap at Ascot, not having had a clear run. This time he's 6lb better off in the weights. Meanwhile, Growl looks better on firmer; while only a neck behind Projection at Ascot in June and 4lbs better off tomorrow.

14/1 looks a good price and is widely available.

Everyday 1/4 5 places
Shy 1/5 7 places

FFS it's a N/R.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on August 11, 2017, 07:18:10 AM
Would anyone be interested in a horse racing last man standing.
Think it would be good fun just trying to think of a good formula for it
Was thinking 10 trainers and can only use one once, now I'm thinking
Of price brackets, any ideas let me know


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on August 17, 2017, 09:57:46 PM
Anyone got any pointers for the Nottingham card tomorrow?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on August 18, 2017, 11:11:35 AM
Anyone got any pointers for the Nottingham card tomorrow?

Take an umbrella.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 18, 2017, 01:17:28 PM
4.30 Wolv started looking at African which is flagged up on flatstats favourite first time colts system, but delving deepert the sire doesn't do very well at Wolves so looked for something to take it on.
Raven's Pass' offspring do better on the surface and Ice Dancing is available at 16-1 with a course win to her name.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on August 18, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
4.30 Wolv started looking at African which is flagged up on flatstats favourite first time colts system, but delving deepert the sire doesn't do very well at Wolves so looked for something to take it on.
Raven's Pass' offspring do better on the surface and Ice Dancing is available at 16-1 with a course win to her name.


Oi Oi!!

Top tipping sir.

 ;applause; ;applause; ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 18, 2017, 05:27:22 PM
Great shout Simon, well done mate.

Congrats everyone who got on!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 25, 2017, 01:56:52 PM
Using David Egan's poor value stats at the course as a starting point, looking to oppose him on current fav 5.45 Goodwood - quite like Kitaabaat 5/2 , largely based on decent sire stats at the track.

Also had a small bet Beringer 6.15 Goodwood on similar basis


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 25, 2017, 03:39:55 PM
Hahaha Frankie, wpwpwp.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 25, 2017, 03:42:35 PM
Hahaha Frankie, wpwpwp.

v good.

Baatash confirmed no good after all.  :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 25, 2017, 03:43:04 PM
Apparently being a long filly helped Marsha in the photo. Where do they find these characters?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 25, 2017, 03:43:43 PM
Incred :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 25, 2017, 03:49:28 PM
Sarah Harding supporters doing a Frankie, but is Amelia Lily doing her on the line tonight?






Somewhere in West London, Tikay is trying to work out which race I am talking about.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on August 25, 2017, 05:52:39 PM
Apparently being a long filly helped Marsha in the photo. Where do they find these characters?

I had a friend who used to bet on the greyhound with the longest nose in every race in case it was involved in a photo.

True dat.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 25, 2017, 06:31:11 PM
TV pundits are awesome. Also heard it claimed that the fast finisher is favoured in the photo.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on August 25, 2017, 10:20:23 PM
Talking through my pocket but I thought Frankie was terrible on the fav today.  Should have given her a couple of cracks when she started going left.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 30, 2017, 08:55:22 PM
James Willoughby's last RUK show tonight. He's taken the handbrake off somewhat. So so good.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 30, 2017, 09:01:35 PM
James Willoughby's last RUK show tonight. He's taken the handbrake off somewhat. So so good.


What he say?

I turned over after 6.20 when he looked like having a dust up with the Yank bird, did it kick off?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 31, 2017, 01:19:17 AM
James Willoughby's last RUK show tonight. He's taken the handbrake off somewhat. So so good.


What he say?

I turned over after 6.20 when he looked like having a dust up with the Yank bird, did it kick off?

Missed the early stuff. Think it had got a bit heated somewhere down the line. Otherwise, Willoughby was doing his own thing. Not quite Casper and Nick but not far off.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: apezmonkeyz on September 09, 2017, 11:21:50 AM
first race at wolverhampton. celtic artisan. this horse is placed very well. clearly an all weather horse that they run on turf until it shows something and then flip it back to all weather. last race showed definite signs of promise and i think could have resulted even better than it did if more was asked. there has been money for it already so may have missed the boat


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 09, 2017, 12:51:03 PM
A couple of old monkeys running in races they ran in last year that have caught my eye.

3.00 Hay, ultimate dodgepot Confessional, been very unlucky last couple. CD a nice fit

2.45 Ascot. Heavens Guest tumbling down weights and now had wind done. Might make no difference whatsoever, but at 25, on CD and soft, I have to chuck a few shekels.
 
In same race Von Blucher was 3rd in this last year when trained by Johnny G. LTO it went for home too soon and if he can be held onto a little longer, could make the frame at 16s too.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: youthnkzR on September 09, 2017, 03:35:59 PM
Hey guys.. off to York races tomorrow... if anybody has any fancies..etc and wouldn't mind sharing t would be very much appriciated! :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 09, 2017, 03:39:20 PM
A couple of old monkeys running in races they ran in last year that have caught my eye.

3.00 Hay, ultimate dodgepot Confessional, been very unlucky last couple. CD a nice fit

2.45 Ascot. Heavens Guest tumbling down weights and now had wind done. Might make no difference whatsoever, but at 25, on CD and soft, I have to chuck a few shekels.
 
In same race Von Blucher was 3rd in this last year when trained by Johnny G. LTO it went for home too soon and if he can be held onto a little longer, could make the frame at 16s too.

GL

Couple of thirds and a decent profit. :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 09, 2017, 09:15:38 PM
Nice one, mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 12, 2017, 04:44:24 PM
I have bet Amlad in the 6.45 Nottingham @  4-1, thought the form of recent races looked very solid and a plus that sires progeny do well on surface - in stark contrast to the current  fav. Whose sire has a poor record on tapeta.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 12, 2017, 05:22:12 PM
I have bet Amlad in the 6.45 Nottingham @  4-1, thought the form of recent races looked very solid and a plus that sires progeny do well on surface - in stark contrast to the current  fav. Whose sire has a poor record on tapeta.

Thanks for that - for anyone who wants to get on, please note it is 6.45 Newcastle, not Nottingham.

Good luck


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 13, 2017, 10:46:56 PM
What do we think about Crystal Ocean on Saturday now that the ground is forecast to be no worse than soft?

Goodwood run lto over 1m4f impressed me greatly.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2017, 10:36:43 PM
Couldn't resist a few quid earlier on my old mate Directorship in the race named after him, I'm guessing, at 4.15 tomorrow.

Looks to have been brought to the boil for this.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 15, 2017, 04:17:22 PM
Couldn't resist a few quid earlier on my old mate Directorship in the race named after him, I'm guessing, at 4.15 tomorrow.

Looks to have been brought to the boil for this.

Drifted to 16/1, but coming back in now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 15, 2017, 04:23:53 PM
Given a stinker by Hector.

Nothing finished better, and never gonna get a chance to recoup as that was his last race.

Farewell old chap!

Apols to everyone else!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 15, 2017, 04:26:13 PM
Given a stinker by Hector.

Nothing finished better, and never gonna get a chance to recoup as that was his last race.

Farewell old chap!

Apols to everyone else!

Sadly, yes, repeatedly found trouble where there was none. Once he got clear he flew, but it was all over by then.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 15, 2017, 04:48:32 PM
Keep posting in the Arsenal thread, and all is forgiven ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 15, 2017, 05:17:35 PM
Keep posting in the Arsenal thread, and all is forgiven ;)


Nah. Will immerse myself in horsey study and leave Ralph to keep up the pretence over the winter.

I been right for nearly ten years about AW, and even I am starting to feel bored of fighting the good fight. Evil is entrenched in the host body, and my good work in trying to exorcise the demon has failed. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 15, 2017, 05:35:20 PM
BFSB are still 8/1 Stradivarious for the Leger tomorrow and paying 4 places after the Desert Skyline's win today.

Obv an unconventional route to the race, and the ground is a question mark, but value is value.   I know you need class, but outstaying works too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 15, 2017, 06:54:33 PM
Quite like chancing my arm with Eastern Impact in the Portland tomorrow.

The usual bun fight awaits, but its one of those horses that I thought would like the 5 and a half furlongs of the race.

Dropping handicap mark and should be well berthed in the low numbers.

Adam Mac first time up could be a helpful change.

A Group horse at best, the 28-1 on offer worth a little tickle.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 15, 2017, 07:19:18 PM
Keep posting in the Arsenal thread, and all is forgiven ;)


Nah. Will immerse myself in horsey study and leave Ralph to keep up the pretence over the winter.

I been right for nearly ten years about AW, and even I am starting to feel bored of fighting the good fight. Evil is entrenched in the host body, and my good work in trying to exorcise the demon has failed. ;)

;D

I'm on VB for the Leger, and got reminded I have  a Defoe & Badou Jack KO/TKO/ double.

Just diverted a few quid onto Eastern Impact, to try and boost the curry funds.

GL us!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 15, 2017, 08:24:39 PM
Keep posting in the Arsenal thread, and all is forgiven ;)


Nah. Will immerse myself in horsey study and leave Ralph to keep up the pretence over the winter.

I been right for nearly ten years about AW, and even I am starting to feel bored of fighting the good fight. Evil is entrenched in the host body, and my good work in trying to exorcise the demon has failed. ;)

Thank heavens for small mercies.

Do you not like Crystal Ocean's chances tomorrow given the ground?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 15, 2017, 10:59:47 PM
He was impressive LTO, but I like both of Gosdens to be honest.

Stradi has done it against the older boys, but I think Coronet getting a little weight(seems to have been the key this week) will get a slightly bigger bet, if I do dabble.

Looks a nice St Ledger and worthy of its status.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 16, 2017, 03:28:53 PM
He was impressive LTO, but I like both of Gosdens to be honest.

Stradi has done it against the older boys, but I think Coronet getting a little weight(seems to have been the key this week) will get a slightly bigger bet, if I do dabble.

Looks a nice St Ledger and worthy of its status.

Stradivarius could be favourite here?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 18, 2017, 12:08:56 PM

Geoff Wragg passed away yesterday.

Doubt anyone here except Karabiner & Adzy are old enough to remember him, but he was a complete Gent, just like his Dad, Harry Wragg, aka "The Head Waiter", named after his exaggerated waiting tactics as a jockey, later employed so successfully by Lester Piggott.

In fact, in his very first year as a Trainer, having taken over from his Dad, he trained Teenoso to win the Epsom Derby, which also happened to be Piggott's ninth & final Epsom Derby winner. 

When Geoff retired from training, IN 2008, he sold his stables to the Al Maktoum family.

RIP Geoff.


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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on September 18, 2017, 03:12:45 PM
Didnt Darryl Holland ride quite a bit for Wragg? 

Name rings a bell to me used to be decent with his juveniles, I think.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 18, 2017, 03:40:09 PM

Geoff Wragg passed away yesterday.

Doubt anyone here except Karabiner & Adzy are old enough to remember him, but he was a complete Gent, just like his Dad, Harry Wragg, aka "The Head Waiter", named after his exaggerated waiting tactics as a jockey, later employed so successfully by Lester Piggott.

In fact, in his very first year as a Trainer, having taken over from his Dad, he trained Teenoso to win the Epsom Derby, which also happened to be Piggott's ninth & final Epsom Derby winner. 

When Geoff retired from training, IN 2008, he sold his stables to the Al Maktoum family.

RIP Geoff.


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Was v sad to read about this.

Was one of my real go to trainers, especially at Royal Ascot.

Remember a couple of my earliest big punts being on Most Welcome, and one of my best on Rebecca Sharp when she beat Cecil hot pot Sleepytime in the Coronation at around 33s.

RIP GW


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 18, 2017, 07:49:10 PM
On a lighter note, this made me chuckle.

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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on September 22, 2017, 02:53:18 PM
Newbury 4:00
Quite fancy the chances of Golden Stunner, 8/1 generally avail, esp with 4 places offered at Shy.
Second Thought is, I think, a little too short-priced for its form on Firm and the AW of Lingfield. Albeit good form in fast times. The selection can be forgiven its LTO run, when caught wide. It's a C&D winner (07/16), and has run creditably both in a Grp 3 in Fairyhouse and beaten only a head at York in a Cl1 Listed race. Given an 8 week break, but runs well fresh for Ralph Beckett.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 23, 2017, 02:55:20 PM
I didn't play in the race but thought Harley had a shocker on Invincible Army.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 24, 2017, 12:28:16 PM
I have had a very modest bet on Mcmunigal 2.00 Naas today at 10-1 with benefit of BOG. Have been following Epaulette's offspring in their first run in handicaps with some success albeit from a very small sample.
7f soft ground and galloping track appear to suit sire's offspring.

Here's what they have to say at https://gerlyons.ie/blog/sunday-racing-at-naas

"We start with a 2yr old maiden over 7f for horses that haven't had a run yet. McMUNIGAL is the only one I have here by Epaulette and he's a gelded son of the sire that was purchased at a Breeze-up sale earlier on in the year. I think he's ok but will want 8f/10f next year and is ready for a day out today. We are a bit concerned about the soft conditions but until I run him I'll have no idea how will handle them. Whether I will give him another start this year or put him away until next year will be decided after this run but we are trying to win with as many as possible this year in order to help Colin chase down/hold off Pat."


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Dewi_cool on September 24, 2017, 02:04:51 PM
Great shout, thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Micko on September 24, 2017, 02:05:23 PM
Brilliant Simon! Cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 24, 2017, 02:11:05 PM
Boom! - should have had less modest bet LOL,  the blog I linked to is worth a look for rest of card today imo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 24, 2017, 02:18:46 PM
Brother turned up with his mrs and kids, just as I was reading that... I'll send him a bill for lost winnings :D

Great shout, Simon!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 25, 2017, 03:07:23 AM
A 3 yr old whose record reads 16 runs, 0 wins, 5 2nd, 1 3rd doesn't look the most promising profile, but had a look due to trainer's good record at this track - 31% strike rate 1.66 a/e. Trainer is also in good form 7 from 29 1.62 a/e last 28 days.

If we forgive a poor run lto, the previous neck 2nd on 5th Aug to Whatsthemessage who went on to win next 3 times and is now rated 91 looks impressive. The 3rd, 4th and 5th from that race have gone on to win since.

I've backed Mama Africa at 10-1 5.15 Leicester today.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 25, 2017, 10:01:51 AM
    ^  ^  ^  ^

Are you worried at all about the going Simon?

It's been chucking it down for several hours here in Nottingham.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 25, 2017, 11:43:55 AM
Hi Ralph, some of her better efforts came with soft in the description, but it must dampen enthusiasm a little if conditions will be quite extreme.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 25, 2017, 05:22:34 PM
Unlucky Simon but a good run nevertheless on heavy ground.

Well done on yesterday's selection which I unfortunately missed as well as HughT's 10/1 winner of the second race as I was otherwise distracted.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 25, 2017, 05:24:26 PM
A 3 yr old whose record reads 16 runs, 0 wins, 5 2nd, 1 3rd doesn't look the most promising profile, but had a look due to trainer's good record at this track - 31% strike rate 1.66 a/e. Trainer is also in good form 7 from 29 1.62 a/e last 28 days.

If we forgive a poor run lto, the previous neck 2nd on 5th Aug to Whatsthemessage who went on to win next 3 times and is now rated 91 looks impressive. The 3rd, 4th and 5th from that race have gone on to win since.

I've backed Mama Africa at 10-1 5.15 Leicester today.




Really liked this tip, and the way the race went thought you had it won. Felt the jock (jane Elliott) was found out a little there. She normally looks good, but in the conditions, I thought looked a little weak and a stronger "jock" would have got it home.

Great shout nonetheless Simon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 28, 2017, 02:17:38 PM
Not pleasant watching at Perth. Borderline cruelty racing on this sort of ground.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 30, 2017, 11:17:12 AM
I quite like Capri's EW chances @ 20/1 in The Arc tomorrow especially if the ground is somewhat testing.

I thought it was impressive in a very good St Leger even though my shekels were on the 2nd that day.

Hopefully there will be a pacemaker as a typical French sprint over the last couple of furlongs would not be favourable.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 30, 2017, 03:49:25 PM
Its a front runners bonanza in the 4.30 at Market Raspberry

Gonna go a right old gallop I imagine as nearly all of them want to lead.

Reckon this might tee it up nicely for old Guitar Pete.

Been plenty of money for him too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 30, 2017, 04:36:42 PM
Its a front runners bonanza in the 4.30 at Market Raspberry

Gonna go a right old gallop I imagine as nearly all of them want to lead.

Reckon this might tee it up nicely for old Guitar Pete.

Been plenty of money for him too.


Second....where else!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 01, 2017, 03:35:02 PM
Some horse, that.

Hope she stays in training.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 01, 2017, 03:39:38 PM
Some horse, that.

Hope she stays in training.

Desperate plea there from Johnny G. Does Abdullah ever keep 3yos going?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 01, 2017, 03:51:03 PM
Some horse, that.

Hope she stays in training.

Desperate plea there from Johnny G. Does Abdullah ever keep 3yos going?

I've only been following racing since my legs packed up, so wouldn't know.

Frankel the only really good one I know of?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 01, 2017, 04:02:06 PM
I'm not sure either but have it in the back of my mind that he doesn't keep fillies going beyond three.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 01, 2017, 04:15:27 PM
I'm not sure either but have it in the back of my mind that he doesn't keep fillies going beyond three.

Just have to hope.

Frankel will be jumping on when she goes to the sheds, no doubt :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 03, 2017, 06:23:12 AM
Might be victim of spending too long looking at a race and wasn't madly keen to take on the fav, who has however been pretty busy of late and faces likely very testing ground again today 4.00 Ayr.
Gworn is something of a course specialist, wasn't disgraced in a heavy ground hurdle over 2m in the past and on potentially competitive hcap mark. Trainer not in great form and 7lb claimer only has one 2nd place to show for 12 runs.
Couldn't resist a small e/w bet at 18-1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: NigDawG on October 03, 2017, 05:18:08 PM
I'm not sure either but have it in the back of my mind that he doesn't keep fillies going beyond three.

Banks Hill, Intercontinental, Timepiece, Passage Of Time and Midday were all G1 winning mares of his kept in training that come to mind. Obviously Enable goes into her own category and he has retired plenty at 3 also.

Johnny G drawing dead if she raced in blue with white epaulets.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 05, 2017, 05:31:16 AM
I've bet Mach One 8.15 Chelmsford today 4-1. Trainer in great form, sire's record over 10f polytrack is very strong. Last run 5th/11 was first for Archie Watson and came after a break. The winner, 4th and 6th in that race won next time out.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 05, 2017, 09:53:07 AM
I'm not sure either but have it in the back of my mind that he doesn't keep fillies going beyond three.

Banks Hill, Intercontinental, Timepiece, Passage Of Time and Midday were all G1 winning mares of his kept in training that come to mind. Obviously Enable goes into her own category and he has retired plenty at 3 also.

Johnny G drawing dead if she raced in blue with white epaulets.

Good shout. Confusing Khaled with Hamdan here. Like a boss.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on October 05, 2017, 10:22:15 AM
I don't see the point of retiring her.

Khaled is a million to ever sell her offspring, so loss of breeding value is not an issue.

Missing out on one foal, means she has 15 instead of 16. And he gets to see his marvellous filly race for another year.

Thoroughbreds are born to race, let Enable do just that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 07, 2017, 08:55:33 PM
Bit of a plunge on Born To Reason in the lucky last at Wolverhampton 25/1 this morning into c4/1 currently.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 09, 2017, 12:36:09 PM
Was very rushed for time today but noticed Mama Africa runs again 3.55 Ponte  . Couldn't resist 14-1 ew and praying no late withdrawals.
Also bet Cosmopolitan Girl 5.10 Muss 20-1 ew


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 11, 2017, 06:40:28 PM
Im told on good authority If the Cap Fits is Harry Frys strongest Novice prospect this year, and he is quite exicted.

11/8 tomorrow 2.10 has been a decent bet for me despite the price.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 12, 2017, 01:45:29 PM
Im told on good authority If the Cap Fits is Harry Frys strongest Novice prospect this year, and he is quite exicted.

11/8 tomorrow 2.10 has been a decent bet for me despite the price.

Backed into 8/13.

The value boys will tell you that's job done. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on October 12, 2017, 02:15:43 PM
Easy in the end Adz. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 12, 2017, 02:17:16 PM
Easy in the end Adz. 


Neesom said he looked like he needed it, but that was a pleasing start.


Welcome back to the jumps!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on October 12, 2017, 02:18:00 PM
Nice one Adz, glad I'm not paying for the beer at the weekend with value!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 18, 2017, 02:04:30 PM
Very short of time today, but thought I'ld throw a couple of ideas for you to ponder...

We have a contender in the nascent Epaulette first run in a handicap system Pelice 3.05 Nott

and since you have to take an interest in Eve Johnson Houghton's runners at the moment - Toulson 3.35 Nott (C&D winner, won first run this Year, back after a break since last run in Aug)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 19, 2017, 07:58:54 AM
Bet Arty But Poor win only 7.15 Newcastle 16-1 purely on Sire and Trainer's good record at track, shame not a better race for e/w.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 24, 2017, 04:33:06 PM
Anyone that can get 7-1 on Solomn Grundy in the 2.45 at Worcester tomorrow, probably should do so.......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 24, 2017, 04:44:14 PM
Anyone that can get 7-1 on Solomn Grundy in the 2.45 at Worcester tomorrow, probably should do so.......



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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 25, 2017, 05:06:01 PM
Anyone that can get 7-1 on Solomn Grundy in the 2.45 at Worcester tomorrow, probably should do so.......


Meh. Thought it had been clear of all the issues at Mullhollands, but obviously not escaped the bugs. Soz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 25, 2017, 05:58:03 PM
Anyone that can get 7-1 on Solomn Grundy in the 2.45 at Worcester tomorrow, probably should do so.......


Meh. Thought it had been clear of all the issues at Mullhollands, but obviously not escaped the bugs. Soz.

Wanker


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 25, 2017, 10:26:35 PM
Anyone that can get 7-1 on Solomn Grundy in the 2.45 at Worcester tomorrow, probably should do so.......


Meh. Thought it had been clear of all the issues at Mullhollands, but obviously not escaped the bugs. Soz.

Wanker

It's people like you killing this place. :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 25, 2017, 10:44:03 PM
Anyone that can get 7-1 on Solomn Grundy in the 2.45 at Worcester tomorrow, probably should do so.......


Meh. Thought it had been clear of all the issues at Mullhollands, but obviously not escaped the bugs. Soz.

Wanker

It's people like you killing this place. :D

;D

Just got my JP & OJA to read through this weekend.

I've started the season well, and already killed one horse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on October 28, 2017, 02:11:18 PM
Doncaster 3:25 Seahenge 12/1 e/w

I was just about finished doing a long rec for this in TfT, but somefink went wrong wiv da iPad....

In essence, how many times do we see O'Brien's 2nd or 3rd string entries win these big races? Last time it ran with credit in the Dewhirst despite lots of trouble in running. Extra furlong should suit, too. I'm on it.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 12, 2017, 07:02:12 PM
Might Bite was pretty good there, FTO.

Roll on Dec 26th, what a KG we could be seeing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 14, 2017, 12:11:16 PM
Might Bite was pretty good there, FTO.

Roll on Dec 26th, what a KG we could be seeing.

Yes the KG could be one for the ages especially if a back to form Douvan turns up too.

Only 42 more sleeps...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on November 15, 2017, 10:29:32 AM

Sad news, as Alan Potts, who owned Sizing John & many other good NH horses, passes away.


https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/nov/14/alan-potts-co-owner-gold-cup-winner-sizing-john-dies-aged-80


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on November 15, 2017, 01:49:08 PM
Any word from Horseplayer?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on November 15, 2017, 01:54:18 PM
Any word from Horseplayer?

No, nothing.

I made several attempts to contact him, but never heard a word back.

Not sure what to think, to be honest.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: The Camel on November 15, 2017, 02:03:39 PM
Any word from Horseplayer?

No, nothing.

I made several attempts to contact him, but never heard a word back.

Not sure what to think, to be honest.

Strange stuff.

Hope he's ok, whatever he's up to.

Seemed like a nice bloke. But you never really know, do you?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: maldini32 on November 20, 2017, 10:53:30 AM
Any tips /fancies for Southwell tomorrow please lads 👊


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on November 26, 2017, 01:10:08 PM
Found a couple of e/w bets for Troytown Chase 2.35 Navan. Can't pretend to have spent a ton of time on it, but two that seem to fit the trends for the race (https://www.olbg.com/blogs/post.php?id=411943)
were Hurricane Darwin and Don't Tell No One.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on November 30, 2017, 06:42:35 PM
Am I the only fool giving Vibrato Valtat one more absolutely final last ever last chance tomorrow hoping the new surroundings work the oracle.

The change of stables didn't appear to have done anything significant on it's reappearance, but 15lbs lower than it's highest mark means it only has to find a smidgeon of it's former form to be competitive, so 25/1 and an eight-runner field have sucked me in again for a minor EW dabble.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 30, 2017, 06:45:32 PM
Am I the only fool giving Vibrato Valtat one more absolutely final last ever last chance tomorrow hoping the new surroundings work the oracle.

The change of stables didn't appear to have done anything significant on it's reappearance, but 15lbs lower than it's highest mark means it only has to find a smidgeon of it's former form to be competitive, so 25/1 and an eight-runner field have sucked me in again for a minor EW dabble.

Probably :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2017, 02:48:56 PM
Am I the only fool giving Vibrato Valtat one more absolutely final last ever last chance tomorrow hoping the new surroundings work the oracle.

The change of stables didn't appear to have done anything significant on it's reappearance, but 15lbs lower than it's highest mark means it only has to find a smidgeon of it's former form to be competitive, so 25/1 and an eight-runner field have sucked me in again for a minor EW dabble.

Probably :D

A much improved run - was having a serious funk for the first three to fall at the last in a big heap.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 01, 2017, 06:31:38 PM
Am I the only fool giving Vibrato Valtat one more absolutely final last ever last chance tomorrow hoping the new surroundings work the oracle.

The change of stables didn't appear to have done anything significant on it's reappearance, but 15lbs lower than it's highest mark means it only has to find a smidgeon of it's former form to be competitive, so 25/1 and an eight-runner field have sucked me in again for a minor EW dabble.

Probably :D

A much improved run - was having a serious funk for the first three to fall at the last in a big heap.

;D

American or Coneygree tomorrow, please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2017, 06:50:45 PM
Am I the only fool giving Vibrato Valtat one more absolutely final last ever last chance tomorrow hoping the new surroundings work the oracle.

The change of stables didn't appear to have done anything significant on it's reappearance, but 15lbs lower than it's highest mark means it only has to find a smidgeon of it's former form to be competitive, so 25/1 and an eight-runner field have sucked me in again for a minor EW dabble.

Probably :D

A much improved run - was having a serious funk for the first three to fall at the last in a big heap.

;D

American or Coneygree tomorrow, please.

I've gone for Present Man to do the early season double with more suitable ground so yours have every chance unburdened by my cash.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 01, 2017, 08:43:26 PM
Am I the only fool giving Vibrato Valtat one more absolutely final last ever last chance tomorrow hoping the new surroundings work the oracle.

The change of stables didn't appear to have done anything significant on it's reappearance, but 15lbs lower than it's highest mark means it only has to find a smidgeon of it's former form to be competitive, so 25/1 and an eight-runner field have sucked me in again for a minor EW dabble.

Probably :D

A much improved run - was having a serious funk for the first three to fall at the last in a big heap.

;D

American or Coneygree tomorrow, please.

I've gone for Present Man to do the early season double with more suitable ground so yours have every chance unburdened by my cash.

Hope you get some place money, Ralph ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Dewi_cool on December 01, 2017, 09:33:39 PM
Am I the only fool giving Vibrato Valtat one more absolutely final last ever last chance tomorrow hoping the new surroundings work the oracle.

The change of stables didn't appear to have done anything significant on it's reappearance, but 15lbs lower than it's highest mark means it only has to find a smidgeon of it's former form to be competitive, so 25/1 and an eight-runner field have sucked me in again for a minor EW dabble.

Probably :D

A much improved run - was having a serious funk for the first three to fall at the last in a big heap.

;D

American or Coneygree tomorrow, please.
I'm on American, so Coneygree ftw


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 01, 2017, 09:57:37 PM
Am I the only fool giving Vibrato Valtat one more absolutely final last ever last chance tomorrow hoping the new surroundings work the oracle.

The change of stables didn't appear to have done anything significant on it's reappearance, but 15lbs lower than it's highest mark means it only has to find a smidgeon of it's former form to be competitive, so 25/1 and an eight-runner field have sucked me in again for a minor EW dabble.

Probably :D

A much improved run - was having a serious funk for the first three to fall at the last in a big heap.

;D

American or Coneygree tomorrow, please.
I'm on American, so Coneygree ftw

Ha!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on December 02, 2017, 11:43:53 AM
Looks a very interesting race the Hennessy .
American has some good novice wins,
singlefarmpayment been running well and team in good form
but TOTAL RECALL could well improve again for Mullins and turn out to be a real top class chaser.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 02, 2017, 12:01:28 PM
Looks a very interesting race the Hennessy .
American has some good novice wins,
singlefarmpayment been running well and team in good form
but TOTAL RECALL could well improve again for Mullins and turn out to be a real top class chaser.

Ladbrokes can't be too pleased with their huge investment in this one.

We all think of it as "The Hennessy", & all the Media are describing it as "The Ladbrokes Trophy Chase (as they are obliged to) followed by "better known as The Hennessy".


It'll always be The Hennessy to me.

Anyway, looks a cracking race. Be nice to hear some more suggested winners, or at least where the value is.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 02, 2017, 02:36:11 PM
http://youtu.be/Occ95-AlCKc?t=218

Love Frank Hickey's appraisal :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 02, 2017, 03:12:39 PM
What a race that was.

Congrats anyone that was on TR!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 02, 2017, 03:13:07 PM
Henderson cost himself that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 02, 2017, 03:13:18 PM
Whip ban upcoming for Paul Townend I suspect.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on December 02, 2017, 03:13:42 PM
That is as good a ride you will see for a while, was fiddling them early on, kept cool got a rythem and gave it all the beans at the end


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on December 02, 2017, 07:16:18 PM
Ludlow - 6th Dec - 3.40

Our girl "Brushed Up" will be having the first outing of the season - been going well on the gallops and in fine form - hoping to be in the winners enclosure - that's put the mockers on it.

Ho Ho Ho


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 03, 2017, 04:22:59 PM
Best of luck, Mike!

I'll weigh it down with a score of my dough, too ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on December 03, 2017, 05:32:02 PM
Just been informed that she might get pulled if we don't get some rain in the next couple of days - will update when i know more


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 03, 2017, 06:05:23 PM
Best of luck, Mike!

I'll weigh it down with a score of my dough, too ;)


Ding-ding all aboard!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 04, 2017, 07:39:38 PM
All a/r

£50w @  5/1 Finians Oscar      
£50w @  7/1 Yanworth         
£50w @  7/1 Petite Mouchoir      
£30w @ 10/1 Samcro         
£30w @ 10/1 Benie des Dieux      
£25w @ 12/1 Death Duty         
£25w @ 12/1 willoughby Court      
£20w @ 14/1 Blow By Blow      
£20w @ 14/1 Red Jack         
£25w @ 16/1 Slate House         
£25w @ 16/1 If The Cap Fits      


That's almost all of my a/p book for Chelts, as I haven't really had time to do much reading/following this year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 04, 2017, 08:07:51 PM
Just a couple in my Cheltenham AP portfoilio - Slate House @33/1 and Sceau Royal @25/1 - both cockles on the schnozzle.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 05, 2017, 01:37:29 PM
Just a couple in my Cheltenham AP portfoilio - Slate House @33/1 and Sceau Royal @25/1 - both cockles on the schnozzle.

Which races, Ralph?

Supreme & Arkle?



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on December 05, 2017, 02:59:38 PM
Okay - Brushed Up is definitely running in the 3.40 @ Ludlow  - trainer says we need rain overnight to get  a good run. Our horse so i will be on it whatever.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 05, 2017, 03:06:51 PM
Just a couple in my Cheltenham AP portfoilio - Slate House @33/1 and Sceau Royal @25/1 - both cockles on the schnozzle.

Which races, Ralph?

Supreme & Arkle?



Yes mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 05, 2017, 06:33:54 PM
Just a couple in my Cheltenham AP portfoilio - Slate House @33/1 and Sceau Royal @25/1 - both cockles on the schnozzle.

Which races, Ralph?

Supreme & Arkle?



Do you think Slate House might go for the longer race on Wednesday or something else?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 05, 2017, 06:53:38 PM
Just a couple in my Cheltenham AP portfoilio - Slate House @33/1 and Sceau Royal @25/1 - both cockles on the schnozzle.

Which races, Ralph?

Supreme & Arkle?



Do you think Slate House might go for the longer race on Wednesday or something else?

Got no idea, but I know Tizzard likes trying them over different trips.

Just went with any race, and then I only have to avoid injury :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 05, 2017, 07:21:24 PM
Just a couple in my Cheltenham AP portfoilio - Slate House @33/1 and Sceau Royal @25/1 - both cockles on the schnozzle.

Which races, Ralph?

Supreme & Arkle?



Do you think Slate House might go for the longer race on Wednesday or something else?

Got no idea, but I know Tizzard likes trying them over different trips.

Just went with any race, and then I only have to avoid injury :D

I wondered why you were on @16/1 - I understand now.

I jumped aboard when I heard he's boxed with all of their best horses on "millionaire's row".


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 05, 2017, 11:51:51 PM
Yeah, I just went for the safer options this year :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on December 06, 2017, 10:39:03 AM
good luck Mike, but think you will do well to get a place.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on December 06, 2017, 11:11:52 AM
Not enough rain - so you are probably correct - that said Tom has been having a run of 2nd & 3rds at decent odds.

We live in hope as always.

Thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Dewi_cool on December 06, 2017, 03:46:10 PM
nice one congrats


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on December 06, 2017, 03:51:32 PM
Hope a couple of Blondes were on it - 40/1 -

Ho Ho Ho


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on December 06, 2017, 03:51:48 PM
Wow 40/1, nice one Mikey.

Having a share of a horse and seeing it win is always a great feeling.

Having some on it at that price makes it even sweeter. Hope you had plenty on.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 06, 2017, 04:07:04 PM
LMAO... I completely forgot about it :D

Congrats Mike!


DIAGF Work...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on December 06, 2017, 04:11:15 PM
Thanks Mikey!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on December 06, 2017, 04:16:36 PM
Fookin nice one mike


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on December 06, 2017, 04:32:58 PM
Holy moley

I had faith, and thanks a lot for mentioning your runner Mikey.

Ho Ho Ho indeed!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on December 06, 2017, 04:35:21 PM
Will not be getting that price again this year -

Tom and his wife Elsa run a cracking set up and he really loves  his horses  and for a young trainer is really knowledgeable. Give him a couple of years and i am sure he will be up there with the top trainers.

Unfortunately couldn't make to Ludlow due to health issues so missed been in the winners enclosure, but I am sure we will be there again soon.

Keep you posted with our next horse when she is ready.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: alanc on December 06, 2017, 04:47:42 PM
Congratulations Mike and thanks for posting. I had a couple of pounds on so well chuffed at the returns. Thanks again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: treefella on December 06, 2017, 06:36:06 PM
Oi Oi !

Had 20 quid on at 16/1 last night just checked the results and got paid 40/1 :) thanks for putting it up ! well done happy days


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on December 06, 2017, 06:49:26 PM
Oi Oi !

Had 20 quid on at 16/1 last night just checked the results and got paid 40/1 :) thanks for putting it up ! well done happy days

Blimey!

Well done, Mr Mike. Equine Santa will be bringing a new nosebag for Horse Christmas.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 06, 2017, 07:35:50 PM
OIOIOIOIOI

Had a sentimental bottle EW for luck which got matched @46 on betfair - what a pleasant surprise to come home and find an extra £100 or so in my account after hammering Tom 1-1 at snooker.

Cheers Mikey.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on December 07, 2017, 10:03:34 AM
Will not be getting that price again this year -

Tom and his wife Elsa run a cracking set up and he really loves  his horses  and for a young trainer is really knowledgeable. Give him a couple of years and i am sure he will be up there with the top trainers.

Unfortunately couldn't make to Ludlow due to health issues so missed been in the winners enclosure, but I am sure we will be there again soon.

Keep you posted with our next horse when she is ready.

Congrats on your win and great shout re it's chances.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 07, 2017, 10:21:01 AM
Will not be getting that price again this year -

Tom and his wife Elsa run a cracking set up and he really loves  his horses  and for a young trainer is really knowledgeable. Give him a couple of years and i am sure he will be up there with the top trainers.

Unfortunately couldn't make to Ludlow due to health issues so missed been in the winners enclosure, but I am sure we will be there again soon.

Keep you posted with our next horse when she is ready.

Congrats on your win and great shout re it's chances.

Yup, well done Mikey.

Looks like Phil & I were the only ones who were not on. Outrageous.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2017, 06:50:00 PM
The Henry VIII Novices' 'chase on Saturday's Tingle Creek card is shaping up to be an absolute belter and far more interesting than the feature - let's hope all six stand their ground.

It's going to be very revealing and also emotional for several ante-post positions including one of mine.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 07, 2017, 07:55:30 PM
Go on the Harvey :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2017, 08:05:18 PM
Go on the Harvey :D

5lbs for a neck *cough*.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 07, 2017, 08:35:40 PM
Go on the Harvey :D

5lbs for a neck *cough*.

Was his first run over fences, to be fair.

Has another race under his belt, which will hopefully help.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on December 08, 2017, 05:10:08 PM
Sat 14.05 Aintree - Hillcrest Fire -

Only worth getting on if the odds drift -


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 08, 2017, 09:56:30 PM
Go on the Harvey :D

5lbs for a neck *cough*.

Was his first run over fences, to be fair.

Has another race under his belt, which will hopefully help.

I think our two have the most reliable form thus far - df/c opportunity?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 08, 2017, 10:11:02 PM
Go on the Harvey :D

5lbs for a neck *cough*.

Was his first run over fences, to be fair.

Has another race under his belt, which will hopefully help.

I think our two have the most reliable form thus far - df/c opportunity?

Superb race.

I won't be making any bets, with FO in there, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 09, 2017, 01:52:10 PM
OIOIOIOI

F/C landed too  ;sexybanana;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 09, 2017, 01:56:53 PM
OIOIOIOI

F/C landed too  ;sexybanana;


Haha, nice ticket you have now.

Well done mate, get some lotto tickets managing to land that f/c :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 09, 2017, 02:38:19 PM
Has to be something amiss with FO, do you not think?

Was shot to bits too early for it to just be outpaced.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 09, 2017, 03:09:10 PM
Has to be something amiss with FO, do you not think?

Was shot to bits too early for it to just be outpaced.

Clearly didn't run up to his best form but I do think they were a bit quick for him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 09, 2017, 03:31:38 PM
Has to be something amiss with FO, do you not think?

Was shot to bits too early for it to just be outpaced.

Clearly didn't run up to his best form but I do think they were a bit quick for him.

Might have a few quid on him for the RSA.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 09, 2017, 05:41:14 PM
Sceau Royal's time was almost a second quicker than Politologue's in the Tingle Creek.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 09, 2017, 08:13:55 PM
Sceau Royal's time was almost a second quicker than Politologue's in the Tingle Creek.



Thanks to lack of Brain Power & NHH going at it early doors, maybe.

Should be a good Arkle, which is what it's all about, and I'd love a ticket for him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 13, 2017, 12:23:15 AM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1RwcB1kag0

From the other week, but worth a watch.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on December 16, 2017, 08:54:28 AM
Any views on today's Chrltenham card, folks?

Other than take a scarf?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on December 16, 2017, 10:10:15 AM
Any views on today's Chrltenham card, folks?

Other than take a scarf?

Don't have much time to write in detail, but I have 3 picks

1:55 Starchitect - the race is a tricky puzzle, with key contenders up against each other again. The Pipe/ Scudamore contender ran a great race vs Ginge last time and only just failed to get up for a win. The experience an a weight adjustment should make all the difference.

1.20 Theo - hadn't lost a race till US rider in last. At the prices, and with questions about the others at the top of the market, this one looks best value at 6-1

3.05 The New One - loves this track and this race

GL!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 17, 2017, 07:25:00 PM
Sad news about Douvan being out for the season - probably my favourite horse in training.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on December 17, 2017, 07:43:34 PM
Any views on today's Chrltenham card, folks?

Other than take a scarf?

Don't have much time to write in detail, but I have 3 picks

1:55 Starchitect - the race is a tricky puzzle, with key contenders up against each other again. The Pipe/ Scudamore contender ran a great race vs Ginge last time and only just failed to get up for a win. The experience an a weight adjustment should make all the difference.

1.20 Theo - hadn't lost a race till US rider in last. At the prices, and with questions about the others at the top of the market, this one looks best value at 6-1

3.05 The New One - loves this track and this race

GL!

Thanks for these. Sorry I didn't say so at the time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on December 20, 2017, 05:06:20 PM
Right - Brushed Up will be running on Boxing Day at Huntingdon - trainer in fine form, you will struggle to get 40/1 this time. You don't travel without hope.

Ho Ho Ho


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on December 23, 2017, 01:27:04 PM
Ascot 3.00 Yala Enki with first time cheekpieces @ 14/1ew looks reasonable price. had a couple of runs and on a winning mark. Trip/ground no probs.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on December 23, 2017, 05:47:41 PM
Brushed Up - scrap Huntingdon - we are back to Ludlow on the 3rd will post our chances later on for the double


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 23, 2017, 06:54:00 PM
Good luck next time out, Mikey.

Is it boxing day yet?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 23, 2017, 09:19:27 PM
Good luck next time out, Mikey.

Is it boxing day yet?

Not cashed-out then - I'm not even sure they offer them on AP bets.

Best of luck on the big day mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 23, 2017, 09:31:05 PM
Good luck next time out, Mikey.

Is it boxing day yet?

Not cashed-out then - I'm not even sure they offer them on AP bets.

Best of luck on the big day mate.

Cheers Ralph :)

I haven't bothered, because it's only a score.

Hoping that there is no downpour over Xmas, even though Kempton drains really well.

Was looking at going up, but I'd need to be at a table, and didn't fancy coughing up half my potential profits on a ticket :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 26, 2017, 10:00:35 AM

For those interested in the King George going, it's rained heavily here all night again, & today's it's cold, bright & clear but not a breath of wind, so I can't imagine it will dry out much.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2017, 10:25:17 AM
My cunning EW thievery on TNO has been scuppered by a NR  :'(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: booder on December 26, 2017, 11:07:41 AM
Any tips for today chaps ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on December 26, 2017, 11:13:04 AM
Any tips for today chaps ?

Whisper e/w king george.  Price has gone a bit, but it is a good each way race so long as 8 remain.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: booder on December 26, 2017, 11:44:43 AM
Thanks Doobs


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2017, 03:12:47 PM
OIOI Drinks are on Marky !


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2017, 03:20:25 PM
OIOI Drinks are on Marky !

I think Trigg probably won a good lump more than I did :D

Bristol had his ground and still couldn't do it.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2017, 03:36:01 PM
OIOI Drinks are on Marky !

I think Trigg probably won a good lump more than I did :D

Bristol had his ground and still couldn't do it.



Did Trigg put him up @33/1 then?

I must have missed that one.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2017, 03:49:31 PM
OIOI Drinks are on Marky !

I think Trigg probably won a good lump more than I did :D

Bristol had his ground and still couldn't do it.



Did Trigg put him up @33/1 then?

I must have missed that one.

No, but he had chunks on from about 5/1 down, I think it was.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2017, 06:29:41 PM
Someone's got a horse called "King *****" running tomorrow - I'm not sure how they got that through.

Why is the forum censoring C...N...U...T all of a sudden? It even got through the Jockey Club's proofreaders!

https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/28/kempton/2017-12-27/690237


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2017, 07:22:37 PM
Someone's got a horse called "King *****" running tomorrow - I'm not sure how they got that through.

Why is the forum censoring C...N...U...T all of a sudden? It even got through the Jockey Club's proofreaders!

https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/28/kempton/2017-12-27/690237

:D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2017, 07:23:51 PM
More good racing tomorrow, and I'm looking forward to seeing Min hose up again.

Min v Altior rematch should be superb.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 27, 2017, 01:59:26 PM
That was some finish to the race at Leopardstown in the grade1 nov. hdl.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on December 27, 2017, 02:04:05 PM
That was some finish to the race at Leopardstown in the grade1 nov. hdl.

How about the next race?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 27, 2017, 02:17:09 PM
That was some finish to the race at Leopardstown in the grade1 nov. hdl.

How about the next race?

I've gone with Gary O'Brien's tip Dixie Lee @16/1 EW


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 27, 2017, 02:18:05 PM
That was some finish to the race at Leopardstown in the grade1 nov. hdl.

Absolute carnage :D

Min a little disappointing, although he did look to race very freely.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 27, 2017, 02:21:37 PM
That was some finish to the race at Leopardstown in the grade1 nov. hdl.

Absolute carnage :D

Min a little disappointing, although he did look to race very freely.

He looked to be jumping slightly right at the fences, not sure if that is significant.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 27, 2017, 02:41:32 PM
Here's the finish to that earlier race (hopefully)..

http://www.attheraces.com/results

You have to open Leopardstown results then watch the race finish in the 1.50pm.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on December 28, 2017, 12:56:41 PM
Okay - trainer has just told me that Brushed Up will be at Ludlow on the 3rd - we could do with a couple of rainy nights before hand, but expectations are that the double is not out of the question.

I shall be down at the yard before hand to have a look and too gauge any info. Otherwise it will be off to Lud for another days racing.

 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 28, 2017, 07:25:27 PM
What chance is there that Footpad and Sceau Royal, who are in the same ownership, go for different races at the festival?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2017, 08:59:26 PM
Ran 2 in the JLT last year, so they're not averse to it.

I think it's unlikely they'll split them up now, unfortunately.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 28, 2017, 09:16:15 PM
Ran 2 in the JLT last year, so they're not averse to it.

I think it's unlikely they'll split them up now, unfortunately.

Just me and Daryl Jacob funking then.. ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 28, 2017, 10:23:20 PM
Ran 2 in the JLT last year, so they're not averse to it.

I think it's unlikely they'll split them up now, unfortunately.

Just me and Daryl Jacob funking then.. ;)

Nah, I'm funking as well :D

I've only backed NHH.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on December 29, 2017, 02:47:11 PM
Are we supposed to believe W Mullins never knew Faugheen wasn't right that race today? 

Pretty poor.  All the chat before hand abut it being an open goal and PK into an empty goal.  I feel for the backers of shorty's when that shit happens. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2017, 03:55:27 PM
Are we supposed to believe W Mullins never knew Faugheen wasn't right that race today? 

Pretty poor.  All the chat before hand abut it being an open goal and PK into an empty goal.  I feel for the backers of shorty's when that shit happens. 

The markets - especially betty - are usually an indicator of something being amiss and there were no smoke-signals today, so I'd say WM didn't know.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 29, 2017, 04:35:23 PM
Mullins never needs an excuse to pull a horse out, even when they're mostly alright.

So I'd say you should believe the horse was fine. They're animals, not machines. Things go wrong, as we've seen plenty of times.

Hope that it's nothing serious, and they get him back for March. If not, we might see Yorkhill v Buveur D'Air


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 29, 2017, 05:57:51 PM
Are we supposed to believe W Mullins never knew Faugheen wasn't right that race today? 
  

Yes.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on December 29, 2017, 09:59:41 PM
Are we supposed to believe W Mullins never knew Faugheen wasn't right that race today? 
  

Yes.

this. There is nothing to gain from running a valuable horse that is injured. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on January 03, 2018, 11:10:12 AM
Brushed Up - scrap Huntingdon - we are back to Ludlow on the 3rd will post our chances later on for the double

Are we on MikeyMike??


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 03, 2018, 02:01:11 PM
Brushed Up - scrap Huntingdon - we are back to Ludlow on the 3rd will post our chances later on for the double

Are we on MikeyMike??

Not sure there's any internet in rural Ludlow..

She's got her ground this time in a hotter race on paper and carrying a 4lb penalty for her previous derring-do.

I've reinvested some of my winnings at a working-man's price if that helps.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on January 03, 2018, 09:25:33 PM
Sorry my PM was late - as I said she needed rain overnight - still a good 4th and I think it will be the case that she will win again but may need a couple more races under her belt - the upside is that when she is ready we should get the odds - keep you posted


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2018, 01:43:58 PM
Sorry my PM was late - as I said she needed rain overnight - still a good 4th and I think it will be the case that she will win again but may need a couple more races under her belt - the upside is that when she is ready we should get the odds - keep you posted

The ground was soft/heavy in places, so prob didn't want much more, unless she's a swimmer :D

She's in all our trackers now, so nice for Blonde to have a nag to follow.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 04, 2018, 03:03:59 PM
Added Farclas @25/1 for the Triumph to my Chelters portfolio.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2018, 04:14:12 PM
Not long now, and we're off!

Going to be weird this year, not being away for the festival.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 04, 2018, 05:56:43 PM
Not long now, and we're off!

Going to be weird this year, not being away for the festival.



I reckon it's a way better experience from your front room these days unless you have really good reserved seats.

The last time I went which was when Istabraq won it's third CH it was so rammed in tatts I was phoning bets through to a mate with a pitch in the Best Mate enclosure, and we watched the last couple of races in one of the bars - still miss the buzz, the craic and the atmosphere though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2018, 06:12:25 PM
Not long now, and we're off!

Going to be weird this year, not being away for the festival.



I reckon it's a way better experience from your front room these days unless you have really good reserved seats.

The last time I went which was when Istabraq won it's third CH it was so rammed in tatts I was phoning bets through to a mate with a pitch in the Best Mate enclosure, and we watched the last couple of races in one of the bars - still miss the buzz, the craic and the atmosphere though.

I've only ever been once, in 2006, and didn't even like racing then. Just went down for the piss up.

I wouldn't go now, because it's too much aggro getting about.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7V-_bbudpk

Me and 3 mates plotted up here for the week last year, and another Villa the year before that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 04, 2018, 06:40:28 PM
That looks like a fabulous villa.

I only visited The Canaries once twenty-odd years ago - Tenerife - and played golf a few times on a championship course set in similar terrain to that you can see in the video - volcanic mountains in the background and black volcanic sand in the bunkers - Golf del Sur.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on January 04, 2018, 08:02:02 PM
Makes me want to go on a holiday


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2018, 08:30:49 PM
I always want to go on holiday, lol.


That looks like a fabulous villa.

I only visited The Canaries once twenty-odd years ago - Tenerife - and played golf a few times on a championship course set in similar terrain to that you can see in the video - volcanic mountains in the background and black volcanic sand in the bunkers - Golf del Sur.

It was superb, and only about 15/20 minutes from Playas.

Quick 5 minute drive to Micky O' Malleys for a fry up before the first race every day ;D

Mate that lived out there had a couple flats in Golf del Sur, and that was about 20minutes from the villa, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 06, 2018, 10:13:58 AM
Welsh Grand National today.

The going is Heavy, 20 runners, & it's 9/1 the field.

Terms vary - most are quarter odds 4 places, some are fifth odds 5 places, one is fifth odds 6 places.


Any value there we can identify?



https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/chepstow/14:05/winner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 06, 2018, 10:32:56 AM
Willie Mullins 0 winners at the festival 25/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on January 06, 2018, 11:26:51 AM
Milansbar @ 16/1 Welsh Grand National

Ran well for 3rd in the Trial on 9/1217 Heavy, staying on. Son of Milan, high-class stayer, the trainer thinks the extra distance & first time visor will help too. Looks like this race was always the plan.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 06, 2018, 02:05:48 PM
Milansbar @ 16/1 Welsh Grand National

Ran well for 3rd in the Trial on 9/1217 Heavy, staying on. Son of Milan, high-class stayer, the trainer thinks the extra distance & first time visor will help too. Looks like this race was always the plan.



That'll do me for a 2nd dart, after backing Buckhorn on Monday.

Good luck, 4K!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 06, 2018, 02:28:57 PM
Milansbar @ 16/1 Welsh Grand National

Ran well for 3rd in the Trial on 9/1217 Heavy, staying on. Son of Milan, high-class stayer, the trainer thinks the extra distance & first time visor will help too. Looks like this race was always the plan.



That'll do me for a 2nd dart, after backing Buckhorn on Monday.

Good luck, 4K!

Marky McBok gets the double up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on January 06, 2018, 06:30:53 PM
Milansbar @ 16/1 Welsh Grand National

Ran well for 3rd in the Trial on 9/1217 Heavy, staying on. Son of Milan, high-class stayer, the trainer thinks the extra distance & first time visor will help too. Looks like this race was always the plan.



That'll do me for a 2nd dart, after backing Buckhorn on Monday.

Good luck, 4K!

Marky McBok gets the double up.

Agree with Tal that they seemed to go very quick for the ground & trip. Milansbar was never really travelling the pace 😟


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 06, 2018, 06:32:55 PM
Milansbar @ 16/1 Welsh Grand National

Ran well for 3rd in the Trial on 9/1217 Heavy, staying on. Son of Milan, high-class stayer, the trainer thinks the extra distance & first time visor will help too. Looks like this race was always the plan.



That'll do me for a 2nd dart, after backing Buckhorn on Monday.

Good luck, 4K!

Marky McBok gets the double up.

Spent too much time around you in Vegas, and I can't shift it ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 08, 2018, 09:02:44 PM
Here come the horses falling by the wayside...

Thistlecrack never gonna be the same again, and out for the rest of this season now.

Death Duty out until next season, but at least he's a young horse. Had him a/r at 12/1 for the fez, too :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 12, 2018, 06:46:56 AM
The more I look at fountains windfall the more I see a very exciting
Young staying chaser. 16/1 nrnb at hills for the RSA is an absolute steal imo
Very similar profile to might bite in that he fell in the novice chase on Boxing Day
When looking like the winner (wouldn't have won as impressively as MB would have) some would argue
Black Corton was still going well but the more I watch it the more I think FW would have
Pulled away. I got on 25/1 ew the other day and very excited about seeing this one line up in march.
Is running at kempton again on Saturday so hopefully gets the job done wiTh a clear round


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 12, 2018, 09:03:16 PM
The more I look at fountains windfall the more I see a very exciting
Young staying chaser. 16/1 nrnb at hills for the RSA is an absolute steal imo
Very similar profile to might bite in that he fell in the novice chase on Boxing Day
When looking like the winner (wouldn't have won as impressively as MB would have) some would argue
Black Corton was still going well but the more I watch it the more I think FW would have
Pulled away. I got on 25/1 ew the other day and very excited about seeing this one line up in march.
Is running at kempton again on Saturday so hopefully gets the job done wiTh a clear round

And they let you boost it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 13, 2018, 03:26:32 PM
Very pleased with that, hopefully his jumping improves when they go faster


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on January 13, 2018, 03:29:01 PM
Very pleased with that, hopefully his jumping improves when they go faster

Nice job mate, thanks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on January 13, 2018, 03:45:18 PM
Fountains waterfall - thanks

Idiot question - I opened a WH account today and laid 4 bets including Fount (4 winners - account will probably be closed by now - ho ho) what and when and how many times can you use the boost button.

Thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 13, 2018, 03:53:56 PM
Fountains waterfall - thanks

Idiot question - I opened a WH account today and laid 4 bets including Fount (4 winners - account will probably be closed by now - ho ho) what and when and how many times can you use the boost button.

Thanks

Incred :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 13, 2018, 03:54:58 PM
Very pleased with that, hopefully his jumping improves when they go faster

You're looking tidy now, for sure.

GLGL!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 13, 2018, 03:55:36 PM
Very pleased with that, hopefully his jumping improves when they go faster

Good work Trigg.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 13, 2018, 03:56:13 PM
Fountains waterfall - thanks

Idiot question - I opened a WH account today and laid 4 bets including Fount (4 winners - account will probably be closed by now - ho ho) what and when and how many times can you use the boost button.

Thanks

Incred :D

Got the aftertiming by the bollocks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on January 13, 2018, 05:29:17 PM
Slight problem giving tips on horses that I know have a more than good chance – today was quite freaky –

I am only involved in three syndicates and because there are only a small number in each group I do not mind chucking it out to the thread (ex Brushed Up).

With the others like today the horses belong to individual owners who I know and they would not be happy if they found out their confidence had been misplaced. That said if they have already got their coins on and they are okay with me putting the odd one out I will.

Like earlier this pm I got home and a mate had text me that he fancied a good run from his horse 10 mins before the race – just got on it  ew came 2nd.

God Bless the internet



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 13, 2018, 05:49:27 PM
No problem with not sharing information, as that's entirely understandable.

Much the same as it's prob a good idea to not share 'I had 4 bets today, they all won, what a touch'.

I just count the cash, and enjoy my free takeaways ;)




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on January 13, 2018, 08:55:05 PM
True - but it was more the fact that I only opened the account today and was been whimsical we the fact that they would close it by tonight.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 13, 2018, 09:24:40 PM
True - but it was more the fact that I only opened the account today and was been whimsical we the fact that they would close it by tonight.

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/XreQmk7ETCak0/giphy.gif)

I believe you, millions wouldn't ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 13, 2018, 09:52:45 PM
Dare say if you have backed 4 winning short priced favourites on a Saturday, unless you have gone nuts with your bet sizing, then your account should be fine for now with most bookies. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 14, 2018, 04:44:42 PM
Added Mitchouka to the portfolio after finding some 70 for the Triumph which was a little surprising after today's run - still a little there if you're quick.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on January 14, 2018, 06:01:07 PM
Just thought I would put a big shout out of thanks to the contributors of this thread, I had really lost my enthusiasm for laying bets now since reading this thread and opening the online account I am back to my old Pitbull self.

And how many things you can bet on is wonderful – not allowed to say after my previous telling off – but in my own little way I caused some carnage bets at the races and on the football today– inplay what a great invention –

Now please note I am not the brightest button on the block but there is a button that says something like “cash your bet out now” while the game is still going on what happens if I hit it does it pay me out the full bet – I am a bit wimpy at the moment so just letting the bets roll.

Anyway thanks all.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 14, 2018, 06:10:53 PM
Just thought I would put a big shout out of thanks to the contributors of this thread, I had really lost my enthusiasm for laying bets now since reading this thread and opening the online account I am back to my old Pitbull self.

And how many things you can bet on is wonderful – not allowed to say after my previous telling off – but in my own little way I caused some carnage bets at the races and on the football today– inplay what a great invention –

Now please note I am not the brightest button on the block but there is a button that says something like “cash your bet out now” while the game is still going on what happens if I hit it does it pay me out the full bet – I am a bit wimpy at the moment so just letting the bets roll.

Anyway thanks all.


Cash out pays you the equity of your bet, less 10%.

You bet £10 @ 90/1. It's now 1/9 in running, so you have a 90% chance of winning £100. You will be offered:

90% of £100 = £90

Less 10% = £81.

Basically...never hit that button.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 14, 2018, 06:12:11 PM
Just thought I would put a big shout out of thanks to the contributors of this thread, I had really lost my enthusiasm for laying bets now since reading this thread and opening the online account I am back to my old Pitbull self.

And how many things you can bet on is wonderful – not allowed to say after my previous telling off – but in my own little way I caused some carnage bets at the races and on the football today– inplay what a great invention –

Now please note I am not the brightest button on the block but there is a button that says something like “cash your bet out now” while the game is still going on what happens if I hit it does it pay me out the full bet – I am a bit wimpy at the moment so just letting the bets roll.

Anyway thanks all.


You basically pay a premium and get the worst of it by cashing out otherwise those crafty bookie chaps wouldn't be offering it.

Far better off hedging by betting the other side (ie laying against your bet) on an exchange if you must.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 14, 2018, 06:13:04 PM
Just thought I would put a big shout out of thanks to the contributors of this thread, I had really lost my enthusiasm for laying bets now since reading this thread and opening the online account I am back to my old Pitbull self.

And how many things you can bet on is wonderful – not allowed to say after my previous telling off – but in my own little way I caused some carnage bets at the races and on the football today– inplay what a great invention –

Now please note I am not the brightest button on the block but there is a button that says something like “cash your bet out now” while the game is still going on what happens if I hit it does it pay me out the full bet – I am a bit wimpy at the moment so just letting the bets roll.

Anyway thanks all.


You basically pay a premium and get the worst of it by cashing out otherwise those crafty bookie chaps wouldn't be offering it.

Far better off hedging by betting the other side (ie laying against your bet) on an exchange if you must.

Or bet what you're comfortable losing. Only hedge If the other side is value.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on January 14, 2018, 08:53:47 PM
Got it - NEVER HIT THE BUTTON - somebody better tell "The Donald"


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 18, 2018, 07:57:50 AM
Just backed bapaume 33/1 nrnb for the stayers hurdle at the festival
Would only advise nrnb for this one as I'm not sure he'll go here rather than
Punchestown but quite interesting. Was first run at 3m last time travelling very strongly
Until just run out of it last furlong by apples jade and supersundee. The front two were
Up with the pace throughout and Bap was held up and maybe they kicked and he couldn't cope
On this ground. Might improve for better ground looking at form and looks a big price if it lines up.
Risky proposition as not really proved stamina yet but if lines up can be sure willie thinks he stays
Otherwise a nice race over 2m4 will be on the cards elsewhere.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 18, 2018, 08:39:10 AM
Just backed bapaume 33/1 nrnb for the stayers hurdle at the festival
Would only advise nrnb for this one as I'm not sure he'll go here rather than
Punchestown but quite interesting. Was first run at 3m last time travelling very strongly
Until just run out of it last furlong by apples jade and supersundee. The front two were
Up with the pace throughout and Bap was held up and maybe they kicked and he couldn't cope
On this ground. Might improve for better ground looking at form and looks a big price if it lines up.
Risky proposition as not really proved stamina yet but if lines up can be sure willie thinks he stays
Otherwise a nice race over 2m4 will be on the cards elsewhere.


44.72/1 boosted nrnb with hills for those that can.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 18, 2018, 09:06:12 AM
Hills isn't nrnb which is a big problem here and with most
Of willies. Would want 80/1 without the concession


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 18, 2018, 08:42:54 PM
Anyone else think JP will split apples jade and espoir d'allen up and ED will go to the supreme. I certainly do, he did it with binocular and franceok in 08 and he'll do it again this year. ED 8/1 nrnb for supreme is extreme value if you don't mind leaving your dough for 2 months


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 18, 2018, 09:01:16 PM
Anyone else think JP will split apples jade and espoir d'allen up and ED will go to the supreme. I certainly do, he did it with binocular and franceok in 08 and he'll do it again this year. ED 8/1 nrnb for supreme is extreme value if you don't mind leaving your dough for 2 months

I hope you're right as I'm on Farclas and Mitchouka at decent prices for the Triumph.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on January 18, 2018, 09:02:27 PM
Hills isn't nrnb which is a big problem here and with most
Of willies. Would want 80/1 without the concession

Can see what you mean, non runner insurance applies to not running in any race. Thanks for the heads up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 18, 2018, 09:07:08 PM
Anyone else think JP will split apples jade and espoir d'allen up and ED will go to the supreme. I certainly do, he did it with binocular and franceok in 08 and he'll do it again this year. ED 8/1 nrnb for supreme is extreme value if you don't mind leaving your dough for 2 months

I hope you're right as I'm on Farclas and Mitchouka at decent prices for the Triumph.

Will help you some but think whichever JP runs will probably win 😛


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 19, 2018, 07:13:22 AM
Apples shakira I meant obv


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 19, 2018, 08:30:39 PM
Here's a recording of the inaugural running of The Clarence House 'Chase at Ascot in 1989(the VC 'chase originally)featuring Desert Orchid, Vodkatini, and Panto Prince.

A walk down memory lane for some of us and a chance to see Dessie in his pomp for others who missed him.

https://www.racingpost.com/news/saturday-action/un-de-sceaux-out-to-restore-semblance-of-order-after-stablemates-setbacks/3

You will need to scroll down the page a little to get to the vid.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 24, 2018, 06:19:46 PM
There's some fantastic racing on Saturday for NH afficionados with Trials Day at Cheltenham and a high quality card at Doncaster.

The following weekend in Ireland is not going to be too shabby either with their new festival at Leopardstown.

There's going to be a lot of shake-ups in the ante-post markets.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 24, 2018, 06:43:58 PM
Yeah, getting closer now.

Gutted I'm not plotted up in the villa this year, but will have to make do with a fry-up at the market cafe every morning before racing ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on January 24, 2018, 07:01:44 PM
For those who go to Chelty - Popeyes opposite the station - owned by Nick a decent poker playing chip shop owner - lovely guy - mention Mike - college - electrical and you might get an extra portion.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 29, 2018, 06:40:17 AM
Can't get this espoir d'allen off my mind for the triumph or supreme
Hills go 7/1 for him to win any race at Cheltenham, that's instead of getting 8:1 and 7/1 nrnb
For both these races separately. Of course doesn't get you a refund if injured etc.
9/1 un de scuex for the champion chase nrnb looks tasty also.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 29, 2018, 07:07:23 PM
Sam Spinner @9/2 nrnb for The Stayer's has been added to the portfolio.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 29, 2018, 09:10:15 PM
Can't get this espoir d'allen off my mind for the triumph or supreme
Hills go 7/1 for him to win any race at Cheltenham, that's instead of getting 8:1 and 7/1 nrnb
For both these races separately. Of course doesn't get you a refund if injured etc.
9/1 un de scuex for the champion chase nrnb looks tasty also.

I've just left it at the 1pt at ~36s for the Supreme.

I've got 5pts on Apples @ 7/1, which I might lay off for a freeroll if he gets much shorter.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 29, 2018, 09:11:17 PM
Sam Spinner @9/2 nrnb for The Stayer's has been added to the portfolio.

Got a bit on him @ 20/1, but not NRNB.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 29, 2018, 09:35:12 PM
Portfolio as it stands now.

Day 1

Supreme

5pts @ 8/1 Getabird (4pts laid @ 3.9)
1pt @ 36/1 Espoir D'Allen
1pt @ 33/1 Debuchet NRNB
1.5pts @ 20/1 Sayar


Arkle

1pt @ 16/1 North Hill Harvey e/w  NRNB
.5pt @ 40/1 Saint Calvados


Champion Hurdle

1pt @ 16/1 Defi De Seuil e/w NRNB


National Hunt Chase

2pts @ 14/1 Presenting Percy :(
1pt  @ 33/1 Elegant Escape
2pt @ 20/1 Moulin A Vent



Day 2

Ballymore

1pt @ 10/1 On The Blind Side e/w
2pts @ 14/1 Getabird


RSA

1pt @ 33/1 Fountains Windfall


Coral Cup

1pt @ 33/1 Ivanovich Gorbatov NRNB
2pts @ 16/1 Barters Hill NRNB


Champion Chase

6pts @ 9/2 Douvan NRNB
2pts @ 9/1 UDS NRNB
2pts @ 12/1 Min


Cross Country

5pts @ 7/1 Cause of Causes


Fred Winter

2pts @ 20/1 Sao NRNB
2pts @ 16/1 Mitchouka NRNB


Champion Bumper

1pt @ 25/1 Hollowgraphic
2pts @  12/1 Didtheyleaveuoutto
1pt @ 33/1 Stay Humble




Day 3

JLT

10pts @ 6/1 Footpad NRNB
2pts  @ 16/1 Al Boum Photo


Ryanair

2pts Min @ 14/1
1/4pt Killultagh Vic @  ~200
1/2p Might Bite @ ~100


Stayers Hurdle

1.5pts @ 20/1 Sam Spinner
1pt @ 25/1 Bacardys
1/2pt @ 40/1 The Worlds End e/w


Kim Muir

1pt @ 33/1 De Plotting Shed e/w


Mares Novice Hurdle

2pts @ 12/1 Salsaretta



Day 4

Triumph Hurdle

5pts @ 7/1 Apples Shakira
2pts @ 12/1 Stormy Ireland
1pt @ 33/1 Style De Garde


County Hurdle

1pt @ 25/1 A Hare Breath
2pts @ 25/1 Moon Racer NRNB


Albert Bartlett

2.5pts @ 16/1 Cracking Smart
2.5pts @ 12/1 Next Destination
1pt @ 20/1 Getabird


Gold Cup

3pts @ 12/1 Might Bite
3pts @ 12/1 Our Duke


Foxhunters

5pts @ 8/1 Burning Ambition NRNB


Martin Pipe

1pt @ 33/1 Project Bluebook


Grand Annual

2pts @ 20/1 Theinval NRNB



Any Race & Multiples

5pts @ 5/1 Finians Oscar   
5pts @ 7/1 Yanworth   
5pts @ 7/1 Petite Mouchoir   
5pts @ 15/1 If The Cap Fits   
3pts @ 10/1 Samcro   
3pts @ 10/1 Benie des Dieux   
3pts @ 12/1 Willoughby Court   
3pts @ 12/1 Death Duty   
3pts @ 14/1 Blow By Blow   
2pts @ 14/1 Red Jack   
2pts @ 14/1 The Storyteller   
2pts @ 14/1 Movewiththetimes   
2pts @ 14/1 Coney Island   
2pts @ 16/1 Gold Present   
2pts @ 16/1 Slate House   
1pt @ 20/1 Movewiththetimes   
1pt @ 20/1 Singlefarmpayment   
1pt @ 20/1 Bamako Moriviere   
1pt @ 25/1 Tombstone   
1pt @ 33/1 Callet Mad


   
Espoir Dallen    (Triumph)
Apples Shakira   (Mares Novice)

1pt double


Footpad
Buveur D'Air
Apples Jade
Altior

2pt Acca




Buveur D'air   
Altior
L'Ami Serge
Might Bite

1/2 pt Acca



Footpad         
Apples Jade
Samcro
Monalee
Cause of Causes
Willoughby Court
Cracking Smart

5f/6f/acca ~1pt


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 29, 2018, 09:37:36 PM

Blimey Marky, you are well organised.

Good luck mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 29, 2018, 09:40:23 PM

Blimey Marky, you are well organised.

Good luck mate.

Ha! I'm not sure I'd say that, but thanks.

Fire enough darts, might hit the board with one  ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 29, 2018, 09:51:41 PM
Impressive portfolio Marky.

How many doubles, trebles, 4-folds, and 5-folds have you had on those a/r critters?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 29, 2018, 10:26:18 PM
Impressive portfolio Marky.

How many doubles, trebles, 4-folds, and 5-folds have you had on those a/r critters?

I've not had any star chasers in the a/r market.

I'll prob start doing a few now most races are NRNB, and having a look through the handicaps next month.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on January 30, 2018, 07:35:42 AM

Good luck Marky

Hope you have a few winners


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 30, 2018, 04:01:34 PM

Good luck Marky

Hope you have a few winners

Cheers Trev.

Any return is a bonus :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 30, 2018, 06:06:49 PM
Impressive portfolio Marky.

How many doubles, trebles, 4-folds, and 5-folds have you had on those a/r critters?

I've not had any star chasers in the a/r market.

I'll prob start doing a few now most races are NRNB, and having a look through the handicaps next month.



Sorry mate I read the title "a/r and multiples" as though they were all in a big perm - and knowing how degen you are assumed the worst..:)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 30, 2018, 06:49:54 PM
Impressive portfolio Marky.

How many doubles, trebles, 4-folds, and 5-folds have you had on those a/r critters?

I've not had any star chasers in the a/r market.

I'll prob start doing a few now most races are NRNB, and having a look through the handicaps next month.



Sorry mate I read the title "a/r and multiples" as though they were all in a big perm - and knowing how degen you are assumed the worst..:)

Ha!

They're all singles, and the few multiples I've had are below.

Be plenty of starchasing on the week of Chelts, though.

Treat it very professionally, me ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 02, 2018, 11:09:16 AM
Fountains entered in the scilly isles tomorrow, this wasn't on the blueprint! Can't see
It being a good idea


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 02, 2018, 11:37:46 AM
Fountains entered in the scilly isles tomorrow, this wasn't on the blueprint! Can't see
It being a good idea

I immediately wondered how he'd handle the railway fences when I saw the entry.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on February 02, 2018, 11:40:49 AM
Fountains entered in the scilly isles tomorrow, this wasn't on the blueprint! Can't see
It being a good idea

I immediately wondered how he'd handle the railway fences when I saw the entry.

It isn't running


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 02, 2018, 11:47:26 AM
Phew. Wasn't so much bothered about the fences, just the drop in trip
Despite 2 falls think his jumping is good


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on February 02, 2018, 01:58:52 PM
Okay - have spent the morning at the stable and out on the gallops watching Brushed Up and others having a work out.

Brushed Up will probably have one more run this season at the end of Feb we anticipate a good run.

Two others to keep your eye on and who should make very good showings are Ask Catkin & Toosey, the team are very impressed with Toosey and anticipate a visit to the winners enclosure soon.

One other to look at is Loud as Lions whose family hails back to Night Nurse - beautiful creature  and could surprise.

Finally Venetia Williams is having a out of sorts season but that could well change for Chelty - so just keep an eye out. Will probably post late on the 11th March as will be getting an insight on a few runners from Mr P Scudamore and others including Tom our trainer at a Chelty preview dinner.



 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 02, 2018, 06:48:00 PM
Gutted to hear that ATR have lost the Irish racing after this year as it gets star billing with them whereas it'll get lost in split-screen city over on RUK.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 02, 2018, 06:52:41 PM
RIP Malcolm Jefferson.

Hope they let Waiting Patiently take his chance in the Ryanair, and it bolts up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 02, 2018, 06:54:34 PM
Gutted to hear that ATR have lost the Irish racing after this year as it gets star billing with them whereas it'll get lost in split-screen city over on RUK.

Saw that, and was quite surprised.

I prefer RUK, but really like Gary O'Brien.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on February 02, 2018, 07:11:31 PM
Okay - have spent the morning at the stable and out on the gallops watching Brushed Up and others having a work out.

Brushed Up will probably have one more run this season at the end of Feb we anticipate a good run.

Two others to keep your eye on and who should make very good showings are Ask Catkin & Toosey, the team are very impressed with Toosey and anticipate a visit to the winners enclosure soon.

One other to look at is Loud as Lions whose family hails back to Night Nurse - beautiful creature  and could surprise.

Finally Venetia Williams is having a out of sorts season but that could well change for Chelty - so just keep an eye out. Will probably post late on the 11th March as will be getting an insight on a few runners from Mr P Scudamore and others including Tom our trainer at a Chelty preview dinner.

Thanks for this, Mikey.

I see that Ask Catkin has a few entries next week - dependent on conditions, I'm guessing. As it happens, I'll be at Huntingdon on Thursday, so I hope that the distance & conditions suit for that day.

I've been noting Venetia's ongoing absence from the winners enclosure for some little while now (with the odd exception), and it is indeed rather unusual for her especially with conditions that would normally be considered to be in her favour. Perhaps there's some bug/virus not yet sorted there?

Best of luck for you and all the other connections attached to these animals. May they all come home sound enough for their next races.

4K


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on February 02, 2018, 08:19:27 PM
Apparently no virus at the Williams stable - just a bout of the horses not wanting to run. Her yard is only down the road from me - but as Marvin would say I have heard it through the grapevine that there could be a sudden turn of fortune at Chelty so watch for any runners she has there.

Interesting we have another horse that I thought might run this year - but I have been told categorically that the horse has decided he doesn't fancy running this year and is basically saying F**K Off to the trainer and all. Better win next year or France will beckon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2018, 09:46:41 AM
Gutted to hear that ATR have lost the Irish racing after this year as it gets star billing with them whereas it'll get lost in split-screen city over on RUK.

Saw that, and was quite surprised.

I prefer RUK, but really like Gary O'Brien.

Great news.

ATR is a joke of a channel. Massive picture delays and generally terrible presenters.

The only explanation ATR have ever given for their time delay is to improve picture quality, yet they still look like they're beamed from Mars, and are massively inferior to RUK, whose pics are only a split second behind. Maybe this is only a major issue for IR players, but there's no way anyone could argue ATR's pics are anything other than shite.

Matthew Imi never replied to any requests for a reason why (the delay) when myself and Matt Williams started Trading Post in the paper. "In a meeting" came back a couple of times early doors.

RUK is 100x times better. Maybe they'll pick up GO'B too?

It feels like ATR is slowly losing the war. Leicester, Stratford, Taunton, Exeter, Ascot, all the Irish courses. GOOD!

https://www.racingpost.com/news/media-rights/key-questions-and-answers-about-ruk-s-poaching-of-irish-racing-from-atr/318117


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 03, 2018, 11:18:25 AM
Gutted to hear that ATR have lost the Irish racing after this year as it gets star billing with them whereas it'll get lost in split-screen city over on RUK.

Saw that, and was quite surprised.

I prefer RUK, but really like Gary O'Brien.

Great news.

ATR is a joke of a channel. Massive picture delays and generally terrible presenters.

The only explanation ATR have ever given for their time delay is to improve picture quality, yet they still look like they're beamed from Mars, and are massively inferior to RUK, whose pics are only a split second behind. Maybe this is only a major issue for IR players, but there's no way anyone could argue ATR's pics are anything other than shite.

Matthew Imi never replied to any requests for a reason why (the delay) when myself and Matt Williams started Trading Post in the paper. "In a meeting" came back a couple of times early doors.

RUK is 100x times better. Maybe they'll pick up GO'B too?

It feels like ATR is slowly losing the war. Leicester, Stratford, Taunton, Exeter, Ascot, all the Irish courses. GOOD!

https://www.racingpost.com/news/media-rights/key-questions-and-answers-about-ruk-s-poaching-of-irish-racing-from-atr/318117

Not questioning the difference in quality or the delay issue, simply stating that there's already too much content on RUK so unless they add RUK2 the Irish racing won't be properly showcased as it has been on ATR. Also love Gary O'Brien.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 03, 2018, 01:03:30 PM
RUK are way better at getting their races off at different times, not like the free-for-all on 415.

At the moment the Irish just jump off when they feel like it. That will improve and lazy Dessie Scahill will have to buck his ideas up too. His days of nipping down for a hog roast and a pint between races and scrambling back out of breath are numbered.

As long as races are scheduled to miss each other, once the Irish is on RUK, you can almost guarantee they will miss each other. RUK are in charge of their courses.

1.01 GO'B gets picked up in the transfer window too. He's ideal for 432.

The argument that the man in the street won't be able to watch racing any more is a non-starter. Anyone with a Betfair or Betdaq account can watch any race they like. Have a fiver on the favourite and lay it back at around the same price, and you've got pictures.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 03, 2018, 01:23:43 PM
Proper carnage in the opening grade1 novice hdl. at Leopardstown as 50/1+bfsp complete rag wins and no less than four horses traded odds-on in running.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 03, 2018, 02:33:33 PM
Min was superb, and Yorkhill is a lunatic.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 03, 2018, 05:32:43 PM
Okay - have spent the morning at the stable and out on the gallops watching Brushed Up and others having a work out.

Brushed Up will probably have one more run this season at the end of Feb we anticipate a good run.

Two others to keep your eye on and who should make very good showings are Ask Catkin & Toosey, the team are very impressed with Toosey and anticipate a visit to the winners enclosure soon.

One other to look at is Loud as Lions whose family hails back to Night Nurse - beautiful creature  and could surprise.

Finally Venetia Williams is having a out of sorts season but that could well change for Chelty - so just keep an eye out. Will probably post late on the 11th March as will be getting an insight on a few runners from Mr P Scudamore and others including Tom our trainer at a Chelty preview dinner.

Thanks for this, Mikey.

I see that Ask Catkin has a few entries next week - dependent on conditions, I'm guessing. As it happens, I'll be at Huntingdon on Thursday, so I hope that the distance & conditions suit for that day.

I've been noting Venetia's ongoing absence from the winners enclosure for some little while now (with the odd exception), and it is indeed rather unusual for her especially with conditions that would normally be considered to be in her favour. Perhaps there's some bug/virus not yet sorted there?

Best of luck for you and all the other connections attached to these animals. May they all come home sound enough for their next races.

4K

+1 to all 4K said.


Missed that yesterday.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 03, 2018, 07:35:31 PM
Espoir tomorrow boys if can do it well tomorrow then I'll be going in again for triumph and
Supreme nrnb least will get half back!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 03, 2018, 07:46:22 PM
Espoir tomorrow boys if can do it well tomorrow then I'll be going in again for triumph and
Supreme nrnb least will get half back!

It'll be interesting to see how Farclas and Mitchouka run against it tomorrow as I was convinced the latter had improved on it's last run and expect the former to come on a lot.

Sad to report that might just be how good the once-great Faugheen is now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 03, 2018, 08:36:02 PM
If they go a good pace neither will get close to espoir


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 03, 2018, 08:36:43 PM
I hope


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 04, 2018, 01:35:14 PM
Perplexing run from Espoir after pulling very hard early - Price might be a little too big now if it's sound.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 04, 2018, 01:45:34 PM
MYbe I'm just biased now but think lot of excuses there not giving up on him yet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 04, 2018, 04:41:33 PM
Just keep him away from the Cro ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 04, 2018, 04:55:06 PM
Edwfulf was 125/1 earlier today, and was probably a bigger price to even be alive.

https://igsrv.org/miracle-of-cheltenham---how-horse-cheated-death

Great article, and what a story.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 05, 2018, 09:44:00 AM
When does the preview circuit start?
And let me know if anyone has seen Cromwell reaction to yesterday
Topped up £100 nrnb 14/1 for triumph and gonna leave it there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 05, 2018, 06:02:53 PM
When does the preview circuit start?
And let me know if anyone has seen Cromwell reaction to yesterday
Topped up £100 nrnb 14/1 for triumph and gonna leave it there.

Think they usually start in a couple weeks, but not 100%.

I'll have a look later, but not seen anything.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 05, 2018, 06:36:24 PM
When does the preview circuit start?
And let me know if anyone has seen Cromwell reaction to yesterday
Topped up £100 nrnb 14/1 for triumph and gonna leave it there.

BE's preview dinner is March 10th.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 05, 2018, 09:04:37 PM
Looks like melon was either got at or knowingly run with
A problem drifts 3.6 to 6.2 in 90 seconds all down to lay bets


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 05, 2018, 10:09:26 PM
Looks like melon was either got at or knowingly run with
A problem drifts 3.6 to 6.2 in 90 seconds all down to lay bets

Gavin Lynch said they're looking into suspicious betting on Yorkhill, and Melon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 05, 2018, 10:11:04 PM
When does the preview circuit start?
And let me know if anyone has seen Cromwell reaction to yesterday
Topped up £100 nrnb 14/1 for triumph and gonna leave it there.

BE's preview dinner is March 10th.



If it was the 3rd, I'd have gone. Too close to Chelts for me to go gallivanting around London.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 06, 2018, 09:22:59 AM
Just bet Summerville boy ew for supreme at 25/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 06, 2018, 09:38:32 AM
Also if melon was 'got at' then 20/1 ew looks a mighty good bet for the champion which could
Have a small field


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 06, 2018, 10:38:17 AM
When does the preview circuit start?
And let me know if anyone has seen Cromwell reaction to yesterday
Topped up £100 nrnb 14/1 for triumph and gonna leave it there.

https://www.irishracing.com/news?prid=188980


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 06, 2018, 12:32:14 PM
Thanks Ralph. Got the fever badly now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 06, 2018, 02:35:57 PM
Thanks Ralph. Got the fever badly now

Final Furlong is good to pass the time, and they've just gone to 2x a week, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on February 08, 2018, 01:52:35 PM
Okay - have spent the morning at the stable and out on the gallops watching Brushed Up and others having a work out.

Brushed Up will probably have one more run this season at the end of Feb we anticipate a good run.

Two others to keep your eye on and who should make very good showings are Ask Catkin & Toosey, the team are very impressed with Toosey and anticipate a visit to the winners enclosure soon.

One other to look at is Loud as Lions whose family hails back to Night Nurse - beautiful creature  and could surprise.

Finally Venetia Williams is having a out of sorts season but that could well change for Chelty - so just keep an eye out. Will probably post late on the 11th March as will be getting an insight on a few runners from Mr P Scudamore and others including Tom our trainer at a Chelty preview dinner.

Thanks for this, Mikey.

I see that Ask Catkin has a few entries next week - dependent on conditions, I'm guessing. As it happens, I'll be at Huntingdon on Thursday, so I hope that the distance & conditions suit for that day.

I've been noting Venetia's ongoing absence from the winners enclosure for some little while now (with the odd exception), and it is indeed rather unusual for her especially with conditions that would normally be considered to be in her favour. Perhaps there's some bug/virus not yet sorted there?

Best of luck for you and all the other connections attached to these animals. May they all come home sound enough for their next races.

4K

+1 to all 4K said.


Missed that yesterday.

Are we getting on the Catkin Bus Mikey?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on February 08, 2018, 02:20:27 PM
The trainer imparted to me that Catkin should be in the frame in the next couple of outings. I have personally watched Catkin over a few hurdles down at the yard last week and it went well. My money is on but then I support the trainer as he is also my next door neighbour.

You pay your money and takes your choice. Not a cert.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on February 08, 2018, 02:57:23 PM
The trainer imparted to me that Catkin should be in the frame in the next couple of outings. I have personally watched Catkin over a few hurdles down at the yard last week and it went well. My money is on but then I support the trainer as he is also my next door neighbour.

You pay your money and takes your choice. Not a cert.



Thats enough for me Mikey

Ding ding, all aboard!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on February 08, 2018, 05:41:25 PM
3.00 Kempton - Toosey

Now I know Catkin came 5th shame as a place would have been nice. The reason I mention Toosey is that the stable girl who daily rides out did give me positive feedback when I asked.

I tend to find you get a better answer than from the trainer - I am on it - but as my Mrs just said "You don't have to back all his horses"

Just got a gut feeling - this is one of his better horses.

Probably doomed it now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 08, 2018, 06:58:31 PM
This thread is the degens leading the degens - on obv.

The step up in distance should help and hopefully it's got a bit up it's sleeves for the handicap debut.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on February 08, 2018, 07:35:52 PM
Ask Catkin

Geez it was nut-numbing weather off the fens in Huntingdon today. Loads of roadworks along the way, but a fabulously generous pork roast was scoffed by me ‘n’ Ernie (my driver & fellow punter, who only scratched the surface of his catalogue of celebrity tales as we made our way north). Can’t wait for more tales from the golf course.

I only mention the weather, since being a bit of a soft southerner, I didn’t spend much time at the parade ring. But I did go to see our fillie for a couple of minutes. She seemed very bright & alert, looking all around. Perhaps a little too excited? The groom was constantly patting Catkin on her neck, as if in an attempt to settle her. I’m no expert, so I could easily be wrong; it’s just how it looked.

In the race itself, she was travelling comfortably at the back, but only 8-10L off the lead. With about 1M to go, the jock brought her forward for an effort, but there may have been a scrappy jump which dented her momentum. At this point the leading contenders broke away and she looked done - as if the extra distance was beyond her. However she then stayed on to be 5th, clear of the rest.

Not sure if any of this is of interest, but since I was there...

Meanwhile, come on Toosey!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on February 08, 2018, 08:01:40 PM
Nice report 4k - hope you enjoyed your day


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 08, 2018, 08:02:27 PM
Definitely interested in the roast!

All the trimmings, and fresh apple sauce?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on February 08, 2018, 09:03:51 PM
Definitely interested in the roast!

All the trimmings, and fresh apple sauce?

Only went for the roast as I'm no fan of Mac 'n' Cheese; 2 massive slices of freshly cooked pork, choice of chips or roasties (both a little dry, but no biggie), a few scraps of mixed veg, but as much gravy and apple sauce as you like. And the crackling was both plentiful and perfectly crunchy. Chef knows what he's doing.

I got us a £28 Jockey Club package each: entry; racecard; pork roast + beer/wine/soft drink. Fantastic value. Ernie did the driving & stories.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 08, 2018, 09:22:29 PM
Definitely interested in the roast!

All the trimmings, and fresh apple sauce?

Only went for the roast as I'm no fan of Mac 'n' Cheese; 2 massive slices of freshly cooked pork, choice of chips or roasties (both a little dry, but no biggie), a few scraps of mixed veg, but as much gravy and apple sauce as you like. And the crackling was both plentiful and perfectly crunchy. Chef knows what he's doing.

I got us a £28 Jockey Club package each: entry; racecard; pork roast + beer/wine/soft drink. Fantastic value. Ernie did the driving & stories.

Can't stand that either, and impossible to go wrong with roasts & racing!

Glad you had a good day out.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on February 08, 2018, 10:59:07 PM
Sent Tom your assessment - this is his reply  11.00pm

Thanks for this Mike,

A pretty accurate assessment really! Next time... come on Toosey indeed.

Hope all well?

Tom.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on February 09, 2018, 01:47:34 PM
 :'(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 09, 2018, 03:13:12 PM
:'(

Just read that, a second ago.

Very sad.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Omm on February 09, 2018, 04:52:39 PM
:'(

Just read that, a second ago.

Very sad.

Oh dear. Very sad.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 09, 2018, 07:09:01 PM
😔


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 09, 2018, 08:04:43 PM
Terrible shame and an awful way to do your dough :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 10, 2018, 11:33:16 AM
Interesting.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/horseracing/5540629/matt-chapman-talks-all-things-irish-racing-and-the-new-tv-deal-in-his-latest-column/


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 14, 2018, 08:07:08 PM
Only a few more weeks, boys!

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Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 15, 2018, 12:19:44 PM
I bet call me lord nrnb 33s for champion hurdle tried to get 25/1 ew w/o beuver but
My pal didn't see message. Thinking if it runs bad on Saturday it won't go and if runs well will be in with a frame chance


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 16, 2018, 11:13:23 AM
Even though I've bet Summerville boy for the supreme looking
Back on the tolworth it's hardly been a sparkling supreme trial
Think last winner of both was noland and iirc the ground was on the softer side back in 06
The first 3 tend to go on to be stayers, even best mate was placed in the tolworth. I'm worried SB and
Kalashnikov could get outpaced if the ground comes up quick.
Watched getabirds last run and really did poach a lead to start but jumped brilliantly after
And really quickened after the last. Very hard to crab his form and way more qualified to go off
A short price than melon was last year. Just a few things about getabirds constitution I don't like
(Had niggly problems) and was off a long time before December. It really doesn't look a deep race
And getabird does look sure to improve on quicker ground and I'm starting to think could be way too quick for
This lot.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 16, 2018, 04:16:53 PM
Got refund on bapaume who doesn't go for the stayers
2m4 gonna be optimum I think


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 16, 2018, 06:03:54 PM
Hope Sam smashes up the stayers ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 16, 2018, 06:14:22 PM
Hope Sam smashes up the stayers ;D

Same here although not quite as much as you do ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 16, 2018, 06:39:38 PM
Hope Sam smashes up the stayers ;D

Same here although not quite as much as you do ;)

:D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 17, 2018, 11:42:11 AM
The Ascot 'Chase this afternoon is a fascinating contest choc-a-bloc with quality - unfortunately there are only seven runners.

I'm with Waiting Patiently today which is on my "keep betting until it gets beat" list even though my old friend Top Notch is in the field.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 17, 2018, 02:37:27 PM
The Ascot 'Chase this afternoon is a fascinating contest choc-a-bloc with quality - unfortunately there are only seven runners.

I'm with Waiting Patiently today which is on my "keep betting until it gets beat" list even though my old friend Top Notch is in the field.

Had a score on WP to win today, and to win the Ryanair @ 16/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 17, 2018, 03:42:48 PM
 ;sexybanana;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 17, 2018, 03:53:31 PM
Nice one, Ralph.


Choked me up that did. I love Cue Card!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 17, 2018, 04:41:11 PM
Had to have a bit of the 12s that everyday are offering for the KG, though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 17, 2018, 05:23:41 PM
Had to have a bit of the 12s that everyday are offering for the KG, though.

I think the jockey said that the ground at Ascot today was as quick as he wants it and that was soft unless it changed, which might be a a slight concern.

Otherwise appears to be a very progressive horse - beating Cue Card on a going day is no mean feat.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 17, 2018, 06:01:57 PM
Had to have a bit of the 12s that everyday are offering for the KG, though.

I think the jockey said that the ground at Ascot today was as quick as he wants it and that was soft unless it changed, which might be a a slight concern.

Otherwise appears to be a very progressive horse - beating Cue Card on a going day is no mean feat.

Claisse loves the sprinklers, so hopefully we'll see him on the Thursday.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on February 23, 2018, 08:18:58 AM
Loud As Lions running today....

Small, medium or large Mikey?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Newportlad on February 23, 2018, 09:07:51 AM
I've going to Chepstow Races on Saturday.

Any tips for the races would be greatfully received.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on February 24, 2018, 09:48:14 AM
I've going to Chepstow Races on Saturday.

Any tips for the races would be greatfully received.

I had Blu Cavalier in the first and Moabit in the third a decent bit shorter than the current prices, both look decent bets to me. Have a good day!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 24, 2018, 09:49:24 AM
Just bet diese des beiffes pretty big nrnb at 14/1 for both the coral cup and the martin pipe, if this animal isn't at least a stone in I don't know one that is. Can bash the ew on the day with better place terms. Win only for now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on February 24, 2018, 08:52:54 PM
Read this a bit late Mr Hopkin - the answer was Noooooo - not firing on any cylinders and that seems to be the way for a lot of Herefordshire trained horses at the moment.

Brushed Up was meant to go for a hard run today to see if she will go in a Bumper in March, though I do not hold out much hope a she likes the soft.

All round pretty depressing for the horses that I am involved in - even my associates who have far better horses are struggling to get into the enclosure.

A bit like poker you are either way ahead or way behind.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Newportlad on February 24, 2018, 09:41:27 PM
I've going to Chepstow Races on Saturday.

Any tips for the races would be greatfully received.

I had Blu Cavalier in the first and Moabit in the third a decent bit shorter than the current prices, both look decent bets to me. Have a good day!

Thanks for the tip on Moabit.  2 winners made for a healthy profit on the day.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 26, 2018, 10:49:15 AM
Festival fever hitting boiling point now.

Biggest two positions are diese des bieffes for wherever he runs
And elegant escape for the 4miler with savers at 33/1 for the rsa.

Started to shortlist the handicaps now.

Didn't back getabird at 9/4 the other week, but the supreme looks really
Weak this year. Don't like Kalashnikov or Summerville (even though I'm on)
The one I'd bet now if forced at the prices would be paloma blue 16/1. But will prob be looking to bet
Getabird of it touches 2/1 anywhere


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 26, 2018, 05:51:59 PM
I've taken some 5/2 Un De Sceaux nrnb for The Ryanair with Fox Norton now out.

I'd be surprised if he didn't go off a fair bit shorter on the day.

Not too many sleeps now..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 26, 2018, 05:54:13 PM
I've got a couple points on WP @ 13/2 NRNB & 1.5pts rolling over on the Ascot/Chelts double @ 16/1

That was a bad bet by me, and I should have just hovered then  lumped nrnb after he won.

See Willoughby Court now doubtful, which is annoying, as I have 2.5pts on him @ 12/1 any race.

5pts on If The Cap Fits @ 16/1 & 14/1 gone as well.

Hope there isn't much more carnage before the off!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 27, 2018, 05:13:59 PM
Betfair preview evening tomorrow night.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: NigDawG on February 28, 2018, 07:02:59 PM
Betfair preview evening tomorrow night.

snowed off!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 28, 2018, 07:46:15 PM
Betfair preview evening tomorrow night.

snowed off!

Yeah :(

Was looking forward to watching that with dinner.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 28, 2018, 07:48:45 PM
Betfair preview evening tomorrow night.

snowed off!

Me too absolutely fuming.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Samviv16 on March 12, 2018, 06:34:13 PM
Thanks for your input


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: mikeymike on March 28, 2018, 07:07:18 PM
Brushed Up running at Towcester tomorrow - its all a bit vague - either first or last - but Don Bersey won the other day - so some form starting to come, too late to rescue the season for the stables - but all the stables round me and there are quite a few have all had a bad season for no particular reason.

Roll on next year - reminder to self ignore any tips from trainers - listen to the stable folk.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 09, 2018, 10:38:57 PM
Silviniaco Conti passed away today, after an accident in a team chase on Sunday.

What a lovely horse he was.

RIP



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on April 11, 2018, 05:06:25 PM

I see Tom Queally is back from trying his hand in the states

Anyone know if he did any good please?

Anyone know if he's lost his position at the Skeletons?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 11, 2018, 06:55:15 PM
Did he ever do any good here, when he wasn't riding Frankel

(https://media0.giphy.com/media/amxLHEPgGDCKs/giphy.gif)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 11, 2018, 07:17:29 PM
Didnt do much, went to Golden Gate which was slightly strange for a number of reasons (very small jockey pool, very established links relatively poor prize money for the states)

I would be amazed if he made money after expenses.

I think I am right in saying he has a small percentage in Frankel still and all his relatives :) That may explain why he barely rides here and often looks less than bothered riding for a 1k around Lingfield.

Still can do the job for John Butler and other punting yards when asked still.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 11, 2018, 07:24:00 PM
Didnt do much, went to Golden Gate which was slightly strange for a number of reasons (very small jockey pool, very established links relatively poor prize money for the states)

I would be amazed if he made money after expenses.

I think I am right in saying he has a small percentage in Frankel still and all his relatives :) That may explain why he barely rides here and often looks less than bothered riding for a 1k around Lingfield.

Still can do the job for John Butler and other punting yards when asked still.

A la Lester Piggott - sort of.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 11, 2018, 09:57:19 PM
Didnt do much, went to Golden Gate which was slightly strange for a number of reasons (very small jockey pool, very established links relatively poor prize money for the states)

I would be amazed if he made money after expenses.

I think I am right in saying he has a small percentage in Frankel still and all his relatives :) That may explain why he barely rides here and often looks less than bothered riding for a 1k around Lingfield.

Still can do the job for John Butler and other punting yards when asked still.

A la Lester Piggott - sort of.

Seems similar Queally not even near the top 10 flat jocks for me now anyway if he ever was which was doubtful.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on April 11, 2018, 11:16:37 PM
Still amazed he didn't ruin Frankel with that 2000 Guineas effort. Some horse to come back from that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on April 12, 2018, 08:52:35 AM
Didnt do much, went to Golden Gate which was slightly strange for a number of reasons (very small jockey pool, very established links relatively poor prize money for the states)

I would be amazed if he made money after expenses.

I think I am right in saying he has a small percentage in Frankel still and all his relatives :) That may explain why he barely rides here and often looks less than bothered riding for a 1k around Lingfield.

Still can do the job for John Butler and other punting yards when asked still.

Thank you

I believe he gets £250K each January  from Frankels stud fees

I know he is moaning because he gets very few quality rides now

If he's lost Fanshaws support then he will end up with nil quality


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on April 12, 2018, 10:04:28 AM
80/1  3rd yesterday...nice for the ew backer


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 12, 2018, 10:51:04 AM
I certainly wouldnt be riding out at yards at 5am if I had that coming in guaranteed



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 12, 2018, 11:45:07 AM
https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/southwell/15:00/winner

Had a small win only bet on Oriental Relation here at 40s

Probably one of the better class 5s seen anywhere let alone Southwell, plenty of negatives might have gone at the game might still be a tad high in the handicap and most of the pace is drawn high (he is as quick as these on his day)

However had 3 runs for Balding since leaving Given, first wasnt fit and showed his usual pace second was at Newcastle where it is very hard to make all and probably not his track and last time went very very wide at Wolverhampton which was a tad strange.

Hard to think he is still only 7 so should still be competitive from in and around this mark, may need an easier race rather than a drop but at 40s makes appeal


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 12, 2018, 09:46:56 PM
Certainly ran better battled back well enough to finish 7th without ever looking like winning


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 16, 2018, 01:52:16 PM
On a day we might be better advised to watch from the sidelines, couldnt resist trying to find a couple of likely soft ground types at Windsor came up with

3.20 Morning Skye 5-1
2.20 Orient Princess 25-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on April 16, 2018, 08:52:52 PM
Bacacarat 2.25 Newmarket  8-1.  Balding's last 11 flat runners produced 3 wins and 4 seconds,  Sire's course stats pretty good and form of last run working out ok.

Plus a fun Yankee while we wait for the next AW racing:


14:25
NEWMARKET (UK)
Bacacarat

15:35
NEWMARKET (UK)
Symbolization

16:45
NEWMARKET (UK)
Msayyan

17:55
NEWMARKET (UK)
Move In Time



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 16, 2018, 09:22:16 PM
Nice one, Simon!

Will have a punt at that :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TightEnd on April 17, 2018, 09:59:43 AM
thought this was a great picture


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 17, 2018, 11:42:28 AM

Thanks for reminding me, Tighty.

I not only laid the winner to Gill, but I backed the fast finishing 2nd at 33/1.

A National to forget, imo.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 17, 2018, 11:47:46 AM


Cue Card has officially been retired.

A good decision, though, with hindsight, perhaps a little late. 

Farewell old friend.


(http://i.imgur.com/qHRnEw3.jpg) (https://imgur.com/qHRnEw3)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 17, 2018, 12:39:43 PM
Been a fine horse

Really looking forward to Newmarket today good card and been nice to watch on some decent ground.

Had a small bet Secret Art in the 410 each way, usual competitive hq handicap think I want to be either low or high here not much pace in the middle.

Secret Art no secrets from anyone but nice comeback at kempton last time and 16s is bigger than i expected here.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 17, 2018, 02:05:13 PM
Great picture, Tighty.

One of my favourite horses, ever. Might have to take a drive down to see if I can get a selfie with him ;D

Not sure it's too late, though. Nobody has the welfare of the horse in mind, more than the connections and trainer, imo.

If the horse isn't showing enthusiasm at home, I doubt they'll race him, and he gave one of his best performances since the KG, against Waiting Patiently.

Wonder if he'll be retrained, and if so, in what field.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 17, 2018, 05:10:34 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdD_9exZCxY

Nice little clip.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 17, 2018, 11:14:17 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M-Vms4oW0E

Lovely video, but think I got something stuck in my eye while I was watching it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on April 18, 2018, 07:54:56 AM
Any fancies for Cheltenham today? Cracking card for the pinstickers.

Summon the spider!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on April 18, 2018, 08:48:25 AM
Great picture, Tighty.

One of my favourite horses, ever. Might have to take a drive down to see if I can get a selfie with him ;D

Not sure it's too late, though. Nobody has the welfare of the horse in mind, more than the connections and trainer, imo.

If the horse isn't showing enthusiasm at home, I doubt they'll race him, and he gave one of his best performances since the KG, against Waiting Patiently.

Wonder if he'll be retrained, and if so, in what field.



I am with Marky on this one.  He won two grade ones last season and was close in two others. 

He did run badly in the Betfair, but Outlander and Tea for Two were beaten further and carried on running in grade ones.  He was very close to the winnerin the two other grade ones.   

I think they probably picked the right time to go, I think going at the very top is just too hard to do.  If they went on the first signs of decline, he'd have gone 4 or 5 years ago when he had that relatively poor season?

Great horse, will be sadly missed.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: PokerBroker on April 18, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
I liked Mont Kira in the opener when there were 16 runners.  Less keen on it with the 15.

Question for the math guys do you prefer the 4 places 1/5 the odds or 3 places 1/4.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 18, 2018, 05:22:36 PM
I liked Mont Kira in the opener when there were 16 runners.  Less keen on it with the 15.

Question for the math guys do you prefer the 4 places 1/5 the odds or 3 places 1/4.


Is this not a simple 4/5ths is bigger than 3/4ths answer or am I missing something?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on April 18, 2018, 05:25:53 PM
I liked Mont Kira in the opener when there were 16 runners.  Less keen on it with the 15.

Question for the math guys do you prefer the 4 places 1/5 the odds or 3 places 1/4.


In a 15 runner hcap i would much prefer 1/5 1234 than 1/4 123 if the price was the same.  Wouldn't even be that close.  Very hard to have a 'value' ew bet at 1/4 123 iin a 15 runner hcap.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on April 18, 2018, 05:34:48 PM
I liked Mont Kira in the opener when there were 16 runners.  Less keen on it with the 15.

Question for the math guys do you prefer the 4 places 1/5 the odds or 3 places 1/4.


If the horse was a solid place option (consistent type c + d form e.t.c) then I would take 4 places 1/5th.

If the horse was more speculative I would play win only with only 3 places, 3 places a 1/4 with 15 runners is always horrid


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on April 18, 2018, 11:49:07 PM
quarter first 4 is better than a fifth first 5 on most occasions though it depends on the price.  I'd take quarter first 4 on a 6/1 chance in a 16 runner handicap, but fifth first 5 on a 20/1 chance.  I'd say a good rule of thumb is that if the horse was more likely to finish fifth than first then take the extra place.  This is far more likely to be true of the 20/1 chance than the 6/1 chance.

Quarter first 3 in a 15 runner race is very significantly worse than a quarter first 4 in a 16 runner handicap.  Your place bet is roughly 75% as valuable as the 16 runner race, and it isn't that easy to even make money on the 16 runner race with many bookies pricing quite a bit below Betfair prices.  So it is easy to see quarter first 3 in a 15 runner race is usually a terrible bet.  Given there isn't much between a fifth first 4 and quarter first 3, then a fifth first 4 is likely to be a terrible bet too.  I suspect the only exceptions will be if you have a few complete no hopers in the race, eg if you have a couple of bad maidens in a Group 1. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 22, 2018, 01:09:04 AM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AQZatswT9c

Think Mr Kealy might be back in hospital by next weekend :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 24, 2018, 07:02:47 PM
Paul Townend about to get filled in by Robbie Power :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 24, 2018, 07:43:47 PM
Paul Townend about to get filled in by Robbie Power :D

I think he might have to wait his turn in the queue behind Willie Mullins.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 24, 2018, 08:06:03 PM
Paul Townend about to get filled in by Robbie Power :D

I think he might have to wait his turn in the queue behind Willie Mullins.

Still, can take a nice long holiday.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 24, 2018, 08:26:45 PM
Paul Townend about to get filled in by Robbie Power :D

I think he might have to wait his turn in the queue behind Willie Mullins.

Still, can take a nice long holiday.

I thought he got distracted by the red flag on the pole by the wing of the fence thinking it was a diversion arrow - until I noticed that there was one by the penultimate fence too..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 24, 2018, 10:40:46 PM
The Stopwatch Racing guy retweeted this, which was posted by Damian Finan (Starsgroup)

He said it looked to be the most reasonable explanation he'd seen

In the split second that Paul Townend glanced back The Storyteller and Finians Oscar we’re both veering to the right, and I think Townend thought they were bypassing the fence and went to follow! Have a look at it again!



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on April 26, 2018, 05:39:07 PM
What a great win by a champion that was, absolutely ran them ragged there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 26, 2018, 06:36:58 PM
What a great win by a champion that was, absolutely ran them ragged there.

Great to see him do that, and hopefully see him back at Chelts in the stayers next March.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bobby1 on April 26, 2018, 06:46:30 PM
What a great win by a champion that was, absolutely ran them ragged there.

Great to see him do that, and hopefully see him back at Chelts in the stayers next March.

yes fingers crossed he stays sound. Would bring the house down if he wins the Stayers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 26, 2018, 06:57:01 PM
What a great win by a champion that was, absolutely ran them ragged there.

Great to see him do that, and hopefully see him back at Chelts in the stayers next March.

yes fingers crossed he stays sound. Would bring the house down if he wins the Stayers

I was being sneaky and went to get a ton on @ 16/1 earlier in the week. Purely as I knew I'd be able to lay it off for a nice freeroll on the day.

Shame I could only have pennies, so ended up just forgetting about it :D

He's very lightly raced for a 10yo, so no reason he won't be kept in training, or that he can't do the same.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on April 26, 2018, 07:54:18 PM
It was a heartwarming run - I could hardly have been happier if I'd have backed him - well maybe a little.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on April 26, 2018, 08:38:11 PM
Gold Cup next year :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on May 02, 2018, 07:07:12 PM
That dump must have felt really good'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/43982286


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 02, 2018, 07:13:27 PM
Must have had a big old beard on the firm, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on May 05, 2018, 01:09:42 PM
Wetherby 4:20
Genetics

Perhaps a chunk of value has already gone, but with some 7/2 still available, this still looks a reasonable bet. The favourite is Varian's Fujaira Prince which ran a decent Grade 5 race at Windsor on g/s nearly 5 months ago, but the form doesn't look good enough for Even money.

Andrew Balding hasn't taken many to Wetherby before, but today he's got 3 there, all ridden by a claimer whose 5lbs will help. Genetics showed great promise over 10f & was tried unsuccessfully at a Newbury Grade 2, on ground too soft, and over an inadequate 8f at Lingfield back in Grade 4. Connections have finally concluded that he needs a left-handed track with less undulation and the full 10f. I had a look at the price last night and it was 5/1, but I only made up my mind that it was a bet this morning & took the 4/1 available. With the ground drying further working in his favour, you might want to follow me in.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 05, 2018, 02:03:50 PM
I'll see if I can pay for my Kevin Hart tickets with it.

Cheers :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on June 04, 2018, 06:47:54 PM
Just seen on twitter...

This bookmaking game must be a licence to print money, no 7 on the rails at Royal Ascot has just sold for £191,500. 😲🤔🎩


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on June 06, 2018, 11:12:25 AM

Going back to Tom Queally it looks like he has secured the first jockey position at Richard Spencer and Rebel racing

That stable will be going places with Rebel backing it, nice winning horse Alfie Solomons last night and Spencer still as a bunch of two year olds to hit the track


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: booder on June 29, 2018, 01:32:30 PM
My mate is off to Newmarket today ,any of you wise horsey chaps got anything to recommend today please.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on June 29, 2018, 02:00:29 PM
Hi Booder

Backed two myself at Newmarket fwiw

6.45 jackpot royale at 7/1 and I will be backing capton each way in the 8.30 later presuming the eight remain



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 10, 2018, 11:13:31 AM

Royal Ascot will be televised on Sky Sports from next year;



http://www.skysports.com/racing/news/12426/11431780/ascot-to-be-live-on-new-sky-sports-racing-channel-from-2019


AtTheRaces, as such, will disappear & be replaced by a new Sky Sports Channel, "Sky Sports Racing". 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on July 10, 2018, 11:48:57 AM

Royal Ascot will be televised on Sky Sports from next year;



http://www.skysports.com/racing/news/12426/11431780/ascot-to-be-live-on-new-sky-sports-racing-channel-from-2019


AtTheRaces, as such, will disappear & be replaced by a new Sky Sports Channel, "Sky Sports Racing". 

Do you know if Sky Sports Racing begin next year or sooner?  The press release talks about Ascot from next year, but doesn't seem clear when AtTheRaces changes.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 10, 2018, 12:02:08 PM

Royal Ascot will be televised on Sky Sports from next year;



http://www.skysports.com/racing/news/12426/11431780/ascot-to-be-live-on-new-sky-sports-racing-channel-from-2019


AtTheRaces, as such, will disappear & be replaced by a new Sky Sports Channel, "Sky Sports Racing". 

Do you know if Sky Sports Racing begin next year or sooner?  The press release talks about Ascot from next year, but doesn't seem clear when AtTheRaces changes.

Don't know for sure, the last I heard was "by the beginning of 2019". It will certainly be well before Royal Ascot, as it states that the Ascot deal is from March 2019.

If only Compo was available to front it. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on July 10, 2018, 12:03:20 PM

Royal Ascot will be televised on Sky Sports from next year;



http://www.skysports.com/racing/news/12426/11431780/ascot-to-be-live-on-new-sky-sports-racing-channel-from-2019


AtTheRaces, as such, will disappear & be replaced by a new Sky Sports Channel, "Sky Sports Racing". 

They will also sadly lose all of the Irish racing which has migrated to RUK.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Cavey007 on July 10, 2018, 12:29:22 PM
Should I assume that Sky Sports Racing will become a subscription channel?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 10, 2018, 12:49:25 PM
Should I assume that Sky Sports Racing will become a subscription package?

It will form part of the existing Sky Sports package afaik. No extra cost as such, but part of an existing subscription package. The same basis as, say, Sky Sports Golf and Sky Sports F1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Cavey007 on July 10, 2018, 12:55:01 PM
Should I assume that Sky Sports Racing will become a subscription package?

It will form part of the existing Sky Sports package afaik. No extra cost as such, but part of an existing subscription package. The same basis as, say, Sky Sports Golf and Sky Sports F1.

That's what I figured, so going from Free for all Sky TV to only Sky Sports subscribers, no shock there


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 11, 2018, 07:04:45 AM

Royal Ascot will be televised on Sky Sports from next year;



http://www.skysports.com/racing/news/12426/11431780/ascot-to-be-live-on-new-sky-sports-racing-channel-from-2019


AtTheRaces, as such, will disappear & be replaced by a new Sky Sports Channel, "Sky Sports Racing". 

Do you know if Sky Sports Racing begin next year or sooner?
  The press release talks about Ascot from next year, but doesn't seem clear when AtTheRaces changes.

Morning Doobs.

Looks like 1st Jan is the date, see below;



(http://i.imgur.com/XVTeqmZ.jpg) (https://imgur.com/XVTeqmZ)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on July 11, 2018, 10:32:42 AM
Should I assume that Sky Sports Racing will become a subscription package?

It will form part of the existing Sky Sports package afaik. No extra cost as such, but part of an existing subscription package. The same basis as, say, Sky Sports Golf and Sky Sports F1.

That's what I figured, so going from Free for all Sky TV to only Sky Sports subscribers, no shock there

I believe I read somewhere that it will be free to all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on July 11, 2018, 10:54:47 AM
Should I assume that Sky Sports Racing will become a subscription package?

It will form part of the existing Sky Sports package afaik. No extra cost as such, but part of an existing subscription package. The same basis as, say, Sky Sports Golf and Sky Sports F1.

That's what I figured, so going from Free for all Sky TV to only Sky Sports subscribers, no shock there

I believe I read somewhere that it will be free to all

Slightly off-tangent, but although Ascot have signed up to Sky Sports Racing, it will still be TX on ITV until at least 2020 or 2021.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on July 31, 2018, 10:14:21 AM
Goodwood today

15,14 and 15 runners in the handicaps and 7 in the Goodwood Cup with Stradivarius 1/2.

Anybody got anything that isn't each way?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on July 31, 2018, 12:49:05 PM
fwiw I like Blonde Warrior and Tip Two Win

The first's an improver with enough potential to win a race like this, the second's been running pretty well in tougher races.

What's the view on draw bias - if any - at Goodwood these days? Increasingly, it seems little if any as long as the trainer/jockey get the right tactics and don't get unlucky in running.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on July 31, 2018, 01:35:29 PM
wouldnt worry to much about draw at goodwood especially with the false rail being out some or all days looks a minefield

have backed dark red in the opener today each way with 4 places

Hills have just opened up 12s Medahim for the last tomorrow that is way toooo big



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on July 31, 2018, 01:53:17 PM
Rain overnight and not a bog at glorious Goodwood.  Seems Seamus has retired.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on July 31, 2018, 06:35:25 PM
wouldnt worry to much about draw at goodwood especially with the false rail being out some or all days looks a minefield

have backed dark red in the opener today each way with 4 places

Hills have just opened up 12s Medahim for the last tomorrow that is way toooo big



Thanks John.   Couldn't get on with Hills, but this was v good.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 01, 2018, 04:22:47 PM
wouldnt worry to much about draw at goodwood especially with the false rail being out some or all days looks a minefield

have backed dark red in the opener today each way with 4 places

Hills have just opened up 12s Medahim for the last tomorrow that is way toooo big



Thanks John.   Couldn't get on with Hills, but this was v good.

Now best price 9/2

I also backed Flavius Titus, which is 16/1.  Quarter first 4 is good, and widely available.  Shy are offering fifth first 6, if people can get on, that is a bit better.  I could get 4.69 e/w with them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 01, 2018, 04:29:22 PM
Some carnage there in the 16:10 :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 01, 2018, 04:35:30 PM
Some carnage there in the 16:10 :D

dare say aftertime Ansell is going to be busy after a 125/1 winner.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 01, 2018, 05:06:47 PM
Some carnage there in the 16:10 :D

dare say aftertime Ansell is going to be busy after a 125/1 winner.

Ha!

Couple big punters got hit for a few quid.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 01, 2018, 05:59:36 PM
Well done John and cheers again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on August 01, 2018, 06:23:11 PM
I couldn't get on with them, but hope you got loads on.

Great shout, horsey!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on August 01, 2018, 06:25:58 PM
I couldn't get on with them, but hope you got loads on.

Great shout, horsey!

Same here but impressive shout from the horsemeister.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on August 01, 2018, 08:19:53 PM
I couldn't get on with them, but hope you got loads on.

Great shout, horsey!

My grandma got some 8/1 elsewhere.   Would be nice if Hills offered more than pennies to her.   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Mark_Porter on August 01, 2018, 08:41:54 PM
wouldnt worry to much about draw at goodwood especially with the false rail being out some or all days looks a minefield

have backed dark red in the opener today each way with 4 places

Hills have just opened up 12s Medahim for the last tomorrow that is way toooo big



I am working at Goodwood all week as don't have anything permanent at the moment and thought it would be a fun week to be on course (had never been to Goodwood before).  I hit the jackpot as am a steward in the March stand with the longstanding members all week, probably the best view going right above the finishing post. This was first thing this morning...

(https://preview.ibb.co/nMnBYz/20180801_111851.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bu3ULe)


I didn't back this but had a smile cheering it over the finishing line. Had a chat with some well to do types before the race and a couple had backed it overnight too and were delighted. Well done :-)   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 01, 2018, 10:47:08 PM
Looks great mark

And cheers chaps was not a particular fancy just one of those quick looks which said 12s was a big Rick



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 02, 2018, 11:06:02 AM
backed maverick officer in the opener at 12s today bred to improve for this step up in distance win only

backed on the go again 435 galway likely doesnt get in as needs one more to not run but is not a 25s shot if it gets in, as usual the reserves in Ireland offer some value on occasion

be lucky


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on August 02, 2018, 12:57:22 PM
on the go again didnt get in


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on August 16, 2018, 08:28:04 PM
Off to Nottingham tomorrow and Southwell on Sunday

If anyone has any tips for either please let me know!

Thanks in advance


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on August 16, 2018, 10:47:11 PM
Off to Nottingham tomorrow and Southwell on Sunday

If anyone has any tips for either please let me know!

Thanks in advance

Looking through the card, it could be a day for the Favs, although I think Benadalid looks big at 6/1 in the 4.10



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on August 17, 2018, 07:59:16 AM
Off to Nottingham tomorrow and Southwell on Sunday

If anyone has any tips for either please let me know!

Thanks in advance

Looking through the card, it could be a day for the Favs, although I think Benadalid looks big at 6/1 in the 4.10



Thanks


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on August 17, 2018, 09:06:29 AM
Good luck, but most of all, have a great day.

ps Diamond Lady has drifted to 8/1 in the 2:00 and with a decent 7lb claimer on top it now looks like a good EW chance


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on August 17, 2018, 09:42:37 AM
Good luck, but most of all, have a great day.

ps Diamond Lady has drifted to 8/1 in the 2:00 and with a decent 7lb claimer on top it now looks like a good EW chance

Shamelessly swiped from Spotlight!

Those Nottingham sprints are so weird. I'm half convinced it's one of the biggest course-specialist sprint tracks in the country but have never really looked into it properly.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on August 17, 2018, 10:56:54 AM
Oi!!

That was all my own homework. I find that the RP often puts me off when I was inclined to be on.... if u know what I mean.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 07, 2018, 01:06:11 PM
Some punts for Haydock today..

show palace and jabbarockie 3.35 Haydock
mickey & cold stare 4.10 haydock
Swiss  Storm 4.45 haydock
Garbanzo & Mod 5.15 haydock


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 07, 2018, 05:48:22 PM
Cold Stare 9-1 SP and Garbanzo 7-1 SP for a winning day.

Garbanzo memorably and accurately described in commentary as gallumphing into contention and winning by a head


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 07, 2018, 05:50:27 PM
Cold Stare 9-1 SP and Garbanzo 7-1 SP for a winning day.

Garbanzo memorably and accurately described in commentary as gallumphing into contention and winning by a head

Top tipping Simon, top tipping, well done.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 07, 2018, 05:58:08 PM
Some punts for Haydock today..

show palace and jabbarockie 3.35 Haydock
mickey & cold stare 4.10 haydock
Swiss  Storm 4.45 haydock
Garbanzo & Mod 5.15 haydock

Great stuff, mate.

Hope you cleaned up a nice few quid.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on September 07, 2018, 06:22:53 PM
Some punts for Haydock today..

show palace and jabbarockie 3.35 Haydock
mickey & cold stare 4.10 haydock
Swiss  Storm 4.45 haydock
Garbanzo & Mod 5.15 haydock

Great stuff. Well done and thanks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 09, 2018, 01:07:20 PM
Pickett's Charge 14/1 ew , Storm Ahead 11/2 - 1.50 York
Rise Hall 15/2 - e/w 2.20 York


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 09, 2018, 03:56:04 PM
No harm done with 2nd and 3rd places for the e/w bets

One more in 4.30 Dream Of Honour 6/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 09, 2018, 04:20:13 PM
No harm done with 2nd and 3rd places for the e/w bets

One more in 4.30 Dream Of Honour 6/1

You are running well, keep them coming.

PS If Dream of Honour now gets beat in the 4.30, I'm gonna get slaughtered by the Usual Suspects. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 09, 2018, 04:48:25 PM

3rd @ 7/1. Phew.

Well done Simon.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 22, 2018, 11:21:00 AM
Bests so far today...

The Irish Rover
Newbury 14:55 
11/2
 
Garrus
Newbury 14:55 
13/2
 
Ever Changing
Newmarket 14:10 
3/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 22, 2018, 11:54:43 AM
mountain angel 1.45 newbury 4-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 22, 2018, 01:46:43 PM
Gulf Of Poets 2.00 Ayr

Wahoo, Hyperfocus, Shared Equity 2.40 Ayr


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 22, 2018, 02:11:29 PM
3.50 Ayr    G Force, Baron Bolt


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 22, 2018, 02:13:27 PM
Best of luck today, Simon!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 22, 2018, 08:17:18 PM
Things were looking a little dicey with Mountain Angel beaten a nose and a lot of other selections not troubling the judges, until we found the 28/1 (joint) winner of the Gold Cup Baron Bolt.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 22, 2018, 08:35:58 PM
Things were looking a little dicey with Mountain Angel beaten a nose and a lot of other selections not troubling the judges, until we found the 28/1 (joint) winner of the Gold Cup Baron Bolt.

Awesome tipping, very well done.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 06, 2018, 09:09:59 PM
Never been a fan, but this is a very sad sight.




(http://i.imgur.com/nO2bCS9.jpg) (https://imgur.com/nO2bCS9)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 09, 2018, 10:26:26 AM
First bet of the day Startego 3.00 Brighton  8-1 P Power  7-1 general, on first run for Archie Watson. Should appreciate sounder surface on breeding. Favourite beaten in third from his last run on heavy has since won off 74.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 09, 2018, 12:16:52 PM
5.45 Newcastle Galitello small e/w with W Hill 16-1 wouldn't want to take less than 14-1  . From small sample sire seems ok on surface and trainer has decent record 2nd time out.


2.25 Brighton StOuen 8-1 token bet , think I may have spent too long looking for a bet in this race, however trainer / jockey have good strike rate at course, likewise for trainer with 2 yo dropped several grades, Chonburi with similar profile and finish in 2nd Aug race at Goodwood won a class 5 next time out. Don't like that these stats perorm less well in Autumn.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 09, 2018, 12:53:45 PM
Would be rude not to follow you in :)

Good luck, Simon!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 09, 2018, 01:24:58 PM
Thanks Marky - Good Luck us..

3.30  Brighton  Fieldsman 28/1 and Military Madame 11/1 e/w ,  Junoesque 16/1 win only


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Horneris on October 09, 2018, 02:29:52 PM
Well done Simon!!!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 09, 2018, 02:31:45 PM
5.45 Newcastle Galitello small e/w with W Hill 16-1 wouldn't want to take less than 14-1  . From small sample sire seems ok on surface and trainer has decent record 2nd time out.


2.25 Brighton StOuen 8-1 token bet , think I may have spent too long looking for a bet in this race, however trainer / jockey have good strike rate at course, likewise for trainer with 2 yo dropped several grades, Chonburi with similar profile and finish in 2nd Aug race at Goodwood won a class 5 next time out. Don't like that these stats perorm less well in Autumn.

Top work, got home cosily at 10/1, thank you.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 09, 2018, 02:37:40 PM
Lovely start!

Well done, Simon :)

Thank you.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on October 09, 2018, 03:33:40 PM
Oi oi!

50p EW

Choo choo


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 09, 2018, 04:00:24 PM
Absolute scenes!!

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/uFtywzELtkFzi/giphy.gif?cid=3640f6095bbcc2694a4b6379557572b0)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 10, 2018, 11:58:46 AM
Have just backed Aquarius 2.00 Nott at 18-1 getting 1/5 4 places with Sky. Has ideal conditions on breeding. Trainer / course / jockey combination very effective. Cant take too literally, but ran to a very similar level in 5f listed race at Newbury as today's fav On the Stage. Dropped back in trip and hood omitted, with De Sousa (to try and make all?) to overcome poor draw.
Also backed De Sousa on Aluqair in the first (not a fanboy betting him blind in every race , but there are probably worse strategies out there)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 10, 2018, 02:00:46 PM
Hope it's not only Blonde money that's backed Aquarius into 7-1 !


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 13, 2018, 11:10:07 AM


Sure sign winter is coming, as today sees the Cesarewitch.

A whopping 36 runner field, with the jolly at 4/1, even 7/2 in places, there ought to be some value somewhere.

Beware the place terms which vary from 4 to 8, paying either quarter or fifth, & prices adjusted accordingly, obv.


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/newmarket/15:40/winner


Any clues or suggestions?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 13, 2018, 01:26:56 PM
Did Whiskey Sour a while back, but with Mullins coming over mob handed, have lost all confidence. Now a bigger price and more places on offer........running good!

I like the draw Limini has and the way she stayed on last time.

Cant resist a small ew dart on Night of Glory too at 100s.

Theres 3 to avoid!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 13, 2018, 02:21:44 PM
Will give them a couple of extra pounds to carry ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 13, 2018, 04:52:57 PM
https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/woodbine/22:41/winner

Focus Group is tooooo big at 16s in this tonight fwiw


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 13, 2018, 11:00:02 PM
3rd at 9/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on October 13, 2018, 11:23:10 PM
Cheers Horsey; managed to get on at 14/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on October 14, 2018, 10:19:43 AM
With all the rain I think going at Goodwood will be GS/S by the last race on the card. Frank Bridge hasn’t had his ground since the spring when winning in this class at Ripon. Several of those ahead in the betting are unconvincing on slower going, so with Gerard Mosse on top for the first time (and he has decent form at the track) and a price of 12/1 (1/5 4 Ladyboys) or 11/1 (1/4 4 Everyday) I think this is a bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 14, 2018, 01:37:09 PM
Cheers Horsey; managed to get on at 14/1

No worries

Was madness sadly hills would only lay me win only more value to eat

Good luck with your bet today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Killerkilsby on October 14, 2018, 05:37:00 PM
With all the rain I think going at Goodwood will be GS/S by the last race on the card. Frank Bridge hasn’t had his ground since the spring when winning in this class at Ripon. Several of those ahead in the betting are unconvincing on slower going, so with Gerard Mosse on top for the first time (and he has decent form at the track) and a price of 12/1 (1/5 4 Ladyboys) or 11/1 (1/4 4 Everyday) I think this is a bet.

Priced tumbled an hour before the off to 7s but sadly doesn’t pay the bills :-(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 15, 2018, 01:35:53 AM
Will keep my eyes on the price of Jack Nevison in 5.05 at Yarmouth tomorrow. Hard to get too excited about one with his 1-22 record, but that win came when turned out again within 3 days and trainer has good value stats both at course and when running again within 1-7 days. Based on sire stats would expect him to act on soft if there's a lot of overnight rain, though admittedly there's little evidence of this in record to date.
Has been running consistently without winning, so maybe an ok e/w play depending on number of non-runners and eventual shape of race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 15, 2018, 12:06:00 PM
J Nevison a non runner


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on October 22, 2018, 09:22:05 AM
I’ve not had time to assess, but thought I would mention an alert I made for myself about  Play It Cool in 3.00 Pontefract being potentially well handicapped on basis of form in Ireland ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on October 22, 2018, 09:28:49 AM
I’ve not had time to assess, but thought I would mention an alert I made for myself about  Play It Cool in 3.00 Pontefract being potentially well handicapped on basis of form in Ireland ?

If we’re getting on, I’d be sure E/W is the way to do it. 1/4 1234 and the top two look overly short.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on October 22, 2018, 02:51:21 PM
I’ve not had time to assess, but thought I would mention an alert I made for myself about  Play It Cool in 3.00 Pontefract being potentially well handicapped on basis of form in Ireland ?

If we’re getting on, I’d be sure E/W is the way to do it. 1/4 1234 and the top two look overly short.

It was just threatening to drift for a while but now solid at 25’s, I’m on.

I think Armandihan is the solid e/w one here. Plenty of 11/2 around.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on October 22, 2018, 02:59:30 PM
I’ve not had time to assess, but thought I would mention an alert I made for myself about  Play It Cool in 3.00 Pontefract being potentially well handicapped on basis of form in Ireland ?

If we’re getting on, I’d be sure E/W is the way to do it. 1/4 1234 and the top two look overly short.

It was just threatening to drift for a while but now solid at 25’s, I’m on.

I think Armandihan is the solid e/w one here. Plenty of 11/2 around.

The Blonde money is moving it, 20’s now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on October 22, 2018, 03:17:36 PM
https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/william-hill-leaves-the-betting-ring-after-selling-82-racecourse-pitches/350536
Big sell up......sign of the times


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 29, 2018, 08:56:43 PM
Great race at Newcastle on Saturday!

Double Champion Hurdle winner and current favourite for the 2019 renewal, Buveur D'Air, is taking on the young pretenders Samcro & Summerville Boy.

The Hennessy is on at Newbury, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on November 29, 2018, 10:43:07 PM
Great race at Newcastle on Saturday!

Double Champion Hurdle winner and current favourite for the 2019 renewal, Buveur D'Air, is taking on the young pretenders Samcro & Summerville Boy.

The Hennessy is on at Newbury, too.


Get all you dare on Summerville for Chelts before Saturday and the price crashes for the big one.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on November 30, 2018, 02:07:07 PM
Great race at Newcastle on Saturday!

Double Champion Hurdle winner and current favourite for the 2019 renewal, Buveur D'Air, is taking on the young pretenders Samcro & Summerville Boy.

The Hennessy is on at Newbury, too.


Get all you dare on Summerville for Chelts before Saturday and the price crashes for the big one.

Got 4pts at 20/1 from before summer :)

Nice to see such a great renewal, and not watching Irving hack around again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2018, 06:23:35 PM
Another gourmet feast on the menu at Fairyhouse tomorrow incuding with a particularly mouth-watering renewal of The Hatton's Grace.

I absolutely adore the jumps.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 01, 2018, 07:33:05 PM
Another gourmet feast on the menu at Fairyhouse tomorrow incuding with a particularly mouth-watering renewal of The Hatton's Grace.

I absolutely adore the jumps.

Just over 3 months until Xmas!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 01, 2018, 08:25:17 PM
Another gourmet feast on the menu at Fairyhouse tomorrow incuding with a particularly mouth-watering renewal of The Hatton's Grace.

I absolutely adore the jumps.

Just over 3 months until Xmas!

I'm in no rush, just ambling along and enjoying smelling the flowers.

Hardly even dipped my toe in the AP market yet apart from an optimistic dabble on Sceaux Royal for the CC.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 01, 2018, 08:51:16 PM
Can't say the same, however, I've not really been betting much week to week.

Think my a/p book is up up around 200pts :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 02, 2018, 07:03:34 PM
Good racing there, and discorama cost me a grand off a fiver free bet  ;grr; ;grr;

Think that was a damn strong race, as he's not a mug.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: peejaytwo on December 05, 2018, 09:25:45 AM
Lester in hospital, hope he recovers.

I then watched his win on Royal Academy, just awesome so soon after retirement, with the trademark rat a tat tat whip action in the last 50 yards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ThhBVc0bA


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 05, 2018, 11:18:09 AM
Lester in hospital, hope he recovers.

I then watched his win on Royal Academy, just awesome so soon after retirement, with the trademark rat a tat tat whip action in the last 50 yards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ThhBVc0bA


Lovely reminder of the Great Man, & even though I've watched it a hundred times it still gives me a tingle.

He did the same thing so often. Dropped a horse out the back, put it to sleep, then suddenly appear at the business end. OK, he mistimed it now & then, but it was always a delight to watch the maestro.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 06, 2018, 01:23:40 PM
From the web it seems he's in good nick, and they're just keeping him in for a few days observation.

Doing well, considering he's almost as old as Tikay ;)



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 06, 2018, 01:25:18 PM
What a race the Tingle Creek should be on Saturday.

Only 4 runners, but couldn't have asked for much more.

Altior
Un de Sceaux
Sceau Royal
Saint Calvados

Altior outpaced, but just gets there, and then sent to the King George by Hendo :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 06, 2018, 03:52:54 PM
I admit that I am a bit of a Sceau Royal fanboy and on paper he appears to have about a stone to find with Altior but I can't get last year's Henry VIII run out of my mind.

He was absolutely scintillating last year at Sandown coming off a fast pace and iirc in a faster time than the Tingle Creek was run.

After a bit of wheeling and dealing in the AP market I've ended up with a few quid on him @~7/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 06, 2018, 05:55:27 PM
I admit that I am a bit of a Sceau Royal fanboy and on paper he appears to have about a stone to find with Altior but I can't get last year's Henry VIII run out of my mind.

He was absolutely scintillating last year at Sandown coming off a fast pace and iirc in a faster time than the Tingle Creek was run.

After a bit of wheeling and dealing in the AP market I've ended up with a few quid on him @~7/1.

I've backed him e/w for the CC, as it goes.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on December 07, 2018, 11:00:00 AM

The 13:30 at Exeter today looks interesting. I thought Remastered would be ~9/4 but he’s all the way in to 11/10. I’m sure Remastered hasn’t looked 100% straightforward so far. I’m sure Adz has a view? At anything better than 3’s, I think Samarquand is a bet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 07, 2018, 11:26:38 AM

The 13:30 at Exeter today looks interesting. I thought Remastered would be ~9/4 but he’s all the way in to 11/10. I’m sure Remastered hasn’t looked 100% straightforward so far. I’m sure Adz has a view? At anything better than 3’s, I think Samarquand is a bet.


No particular view on that, but do like one of Pipes later.

Eamon An Cnoic, ran a real eyecatcher in the Paddy Power(or whatever), travelling really well. This is a tad easier methinks and on easier ground he looks a cracking ew bet


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 07, 2018, 01:55:05 PM
What did they say about SB last week, Adz?

Just not as fit as expected?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on December 07, 2018, 02:09:46 PM
i think if altior doesnt get beaten on saturday he never will over 2m again. sharper track possible tactical pace vs 3 good oppos. tempted to throw a few quid on saint calvados as this is his time of the year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 07, 2018, 03:56:30 PM
i think if altior doesnt get beaten on saturday he never will over 2m again. sharper track possible tactical pace vs 3 good oppos. tempted to throw a few quid on saint calvados as this is his time of the year.

Bloke on another forum I post on put that up @ 100/1 for the Arkle last  year.

Was sickening watching him and PM cut each others throats...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 07, 2018, 03:56:58 PM
Half hoping he does get beat, and then Hendo can run him in the KG ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 07, 2018, 04:40:57 PM
What did they say about SB last week, Adz?

Just not as fit as expected?



Tom thought he had him fit enough, so cant blame that, but he did when he got on debut last year.

Jumped worse than last year but stayed on at end of race.

Rog was rather pissed at whole thing as had helicopter grounded and had to rush around for plane to get him and Touchy to Newcastle in time, and to then get beat so far....not a good day.

TBH, I said before to son, just want to see him get round, never struck me as the right race for him.

Confidence dented, but not shattered.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 07, 2018, 04:57:55 PM
What did they say about SB last week, Adz?

Just not as fit as expected?



Tom thought he had him fit enough, so cant blame that, but he did when he got on debut last year.

Jumped worse than last year but stayed on at end of race.

Rog was rather pissed at whole thing as had helicopter grounded and had to rush around for plane to get him and Touchy to Newcastle in time, and to then get beat so far....not a good day.

TBH, I said before to son, just want to see him get round, never struck me as the right race for him.

Confidence dented, but not shattered.

I bet he wasn't too chuffed :D


See how he goes next time out, and hope it's better.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 08, 2018, 12:41:25 PM
I've a feeling that Lalor might be vulnerable today on the ground and have had a speculative punt on Pingshou who looks likely to have come on for his first run.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 08, 2018, 06:59:45 PM
What a horse, and just a shame he won't go for the KG!

Would have been amazing to see if he could do a Kauto.

Surprised Sceau Royal ran today, given they know he hates that ground.

Lalor won on soft, but Johnson said he hated that ground, and they're still looking to the Arkle.

Glad my freeroll is still alive!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 15, 2018, 08:26:04 AM

For anyone with a spare drunken spider, there's a cracking race at Cheltenham at 1.50 today, 15 runners, a 7/2 jolly & 7/1 bar. 


https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing/cheltenham/13:55/winner


Interesting riddle for the maths boys here, as place terms vary from quarter 3 places, to one fifth 7 places, with the prices, obv, adjusted to suit the place terms. Hills are the outlier at 7 places of course.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 15, 2018, 01:12:51 PM
I'm on Romain, so unlucky :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 18, 2018, 10:10:26 AM
366 nrnb on the big 5 @ chelts already.

Denise wants an extension courtesy of me and Marky


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on December 19, 2018, 03:30:18 PM
Anyone got any views on Thistlecrack bounding back to form in the King George ? 7/1 at the moment


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 19, 2018, 04:40:32 PM
Anyone got any views on Thistlecrack bounding back to form in the King George ? 7/1 at the moment

If he doesn't bounce, got a great chance.

V promising run at Haydock.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 19, 2018, 08:20:35 PM
Will need to not jump like I was on his back, too.

Hope he does run well. Love the horse!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on December 19, 2018, 08:23:19 PM

Is there any chance Altior runs?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 19, 2018, 09:03:53 PM

Is there any chance Altior runs?

No chance.

If Hendo steps him up surely it's Ryanair then KG then GC.

Would be very unHendo like to go up so far in one go with one of his treasures.



P.S.,  tomotoe sauce at the ready to go with that hat I would eat....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 19, 2018, 09:55:22 PM
I've got a tenner on him at 60s, but think he has talked the owner's wife around :D

Maybe try the Melling if he comes out of Chelts alright?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 20, 2018, 04:49:06 PM
See the General has run for the last time, and is off to enjoy his retirement.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 20, 2018, 06:34:14 PM
Hat is safe.

Hendo true to form, no Altior.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 20, 2018, 07:19:01 PM
You were as likely to be eating hat, as I was to be dieting this side of January.

He said from the start it was very unlikely, and he didn't want to run him.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on December 20, 2018, 10:13:12 PM
See the General has run for the last time, and is off to enjoy his retirement.



legend superb interview with Charles Smith today after the race


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 20, 2018, 10:18:25 PM
I've got a tenner on him at 60s, but think he has talked the owner's wife around :D

Maybe try the Melling if he comes out of Chelts alright?


I thought the owner was the wife. It's certainly a woman that gets interviewed all the time?

On the basis Buckley told him to do something he didn't want to with BP, it could have gone wrong!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 20, 2018, 10:36:28 PM
I've got a tenner on him at 60s, but think he has talked the owner's wife around :D

Maybe try the Melling if he comes out of Chelts alright?


I thought the owner was the wife. It's certainly a woman that gets interviewed all the time?

On the basis Buckley told him to do something he didn't want to with BP, it could have gone wrong!

In the RP Hendo said that him and the husband didn't want to run, but the wife was keen.

Not sure exactly how ownership is apportioned, but if it's anything like here, the old man pays and the old dear picks :D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 25, 2018, 04:29:41 PM
I quite fancy Bags Grove to turn over Santini tomorrow - it was very impressive lto at Huntingdon jumping superbly and recording a fast time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on December 25, 2018, 04:55:28 PM
Hope not Ralph!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 25, 2018, 05:54:44 PM
Hope not Ralph!

Is Santini the last one needed to complete your super-yankee?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on December 25, 2018, 06:09:36 PM
Hope not Ralph!

Is Santini the last one needed to complete your super-yankee?

It's the first one to set the trend for my Super Canadian


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 25, 2018, 07:36:14 PM
I'm happy for him to win tomorrow, as long as Santini rolls in at Chelts ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 25, 2018, 07:51:00 PM
I've got a tenner on him at 60s, but think he has talked the owner's wife around :D

Maybe try the Melling if he comes out of Chelts alright?


I thought the owner was the wife. It's certainly a woman that gets interviewed all the time?

On the basis Buckley told him to do something he didn't want to with BP, it could have gone wrong!

Only taken this long to check....

Patricia Pugh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 25, 2018, 08:17:30 PM
I've got a tenner on him at 60s, but think he has talked the owner's wife around :D

Maybe try the Melling if he comes out of Chelts alright?


I thought the owner was the wife. It's certainly a woman that gets interviewed all the time?

On the basis Buckley told him to do something he didn't want to with BP, it could have gone wrong!

Only taken this long to check....

Patricia Pugh

Hendo said in the RP, she wanted to run him in the KG, but he and her husband were trying to talk her out of it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 25, 2018, 08:19:00 PM
I'm happy for him to win tomorrow, as long as Santini rolls in at Chelts ;)

Deal!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 25, 2018, 08:30:36 PM
I'm happy for him to win tomorrow, as long as Santini rolls in at Chelts ;)

Deal!

 :)up

I'm going to struggle with so much racing on tomorrow.

Have to watch some on my desktop, and the other on office TV.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 25, 2018, 09:02:04 PM
I'm happy for him to win tomorrow, as long as Santini rolls in at Chelts ;)

Deal!

 :)up

I'm going to struggle with so much racing on tomorrow.

Have to watch some on my desktop, and the other on office TV.


I thought it looked awful tomorrow. Only about 4 races of interest. Just too much Diana Ross.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 25, 2018, 09:12:17 PM
I'm happy for him to win tomorrow, as long as Santini rolls in at Chelts ;)

Deal!

 :)up

I'm going to struggle with so much racing on tomorrow.

Have to watch some on my desktop, and the other on office TV.


I thought it looked awful tomorrow. Only about 4 races of interest. Just too much Diana Ross.

Not surprising, for El Gringo to think that :D

4 of 6 at Kempton, and 5 of 7 at Leopardstown. Plus Getabird @ Limerick.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 25, 2018, 09:20:34 PM
Is it pissing down at Kempton?

Seems Coneygree, Native River & WP are being backed in.

If it has been, I might get stuck into the River.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on December 25, 2018, 10:12:22 PM
Is it pissing down at Kempton?

Seems Coneygree, Native River & WP are being backed in.

If it has been, I might get stuck into the River.

looks to be low rain on the weather forecast and the highest rainfall in the London are in the past 24 hours was 3mm.

Politologue drifted to 13/2 on betfair.   

So looks unlikely


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 25, 2018, 10:13:00 PM
Is it pissing down at Kempton?

Seems Coneygree, Native River & WP are being backed in.

If it has been, I might get stuck into the River.

Nope, not rained all day, or last night, and it's dry now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 25, 2018, 10:19:23 PM
That's very odd.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on December 25, 2018, 10:22:34 PM
Is it pissing down at Kempton?

Seems Coneygree, Native River & WP are being backed in.

If it has been, I might get stuck into the River.

looks to be low rain on the weather forecast and the highest rainfall in the London are in the past 24 hours was 3mm.

So looks unlikely

Politologue drifted to 13/2 on betfair.   

FYP



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 25, 2018, 11:32:29 PM
I'm happy for him to win tomorrow, as long as Santini rolls in at Chelts ;)

Deal!

 :)up

I'm going to struggle with so much racing on tomorrow.

Have to watch some on my desktop, and the other on office TV.


I thought it looked awful tomorrow. Only about 4 races of interest. Just too much Diana Ross.

Not surprising, for El Gringo to think that :D

4 of 6 at Kempton, and 5 of 7 at Leopardstown. Plus Getabird @ Limerick.





Two unidentified flies would keep you happy.xx


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 25, 2018, 11:58:34 PM
I'm happy for him to win tomorrow, as long as Santini rolls in at Chelts ;)

Deal!

 :)up

I'm going to struggle with so much racing on tomorrow.

Have to watch some on my desktop, and the other on office TV.


I thought it looked awful tomorrow. Only about 4 races of interest. Just too much Diana Ross.

Not surprising, for El Gringo to think that :D

4 of 6 at Kempton, and 5 of 7 at Leopardstown. Plus Getabird @ Limerick.





Two unidentified flies would keep you happy.xx

All horses that could have a say at Cheltenham.

Two identifiable flies may well do.

Need a new CH horse, now that SB is on his way to Tescos ;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2018, 11:34:51 AM
I'm a little surprised that WP is running on ground described as "GS G in places".


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2018, 11:41:09 AM
I'm a little surprised that WP is running on ground described as "GS G in places".

Trainer said as long as it's safe ground they'll take their chance.

Surprised it's looking like going off fave, though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on December 26, 2018, 02:08:37 PM
I quite fancy Bags Grove to turn over Santini tomorrow - it was very impressive lto at Huntingdon jumping superbly and recording a fast time.

I always preferred the other Ralph in my life, Wiggum Jnr...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 26, 2018, 02:16:05 PM
Wouldn't lose too much sleep over that Marky. Le Bag always excels before the new year and Santini staying on sweetly.

Would have a little save on the second though. He looks a bit of a beast as well.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2018, 02:19:05 PM
I quite fancy Bags Grove to turn over Santini tomorrow - it was very impressive lto at Huntingdon jumping superbly and recording a fast time.

I always preferred the other Ralph in my life, Wiggum Jnr...

Didn't run it's race at all really, could possibly need soft but not entirely sure.

Did I put you off Santini?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2018, 02:28:21 PM
I have another tracker horse also with the note to back until it gets beaten: Global Citizen.

I've had a dabble w/o BuveurD.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2018, 02:55:02 PM
Wouldn't lose too much sleep over that Marky. Le Bag always excels before the new year and Santini staying on sweetly.

Would have a little save on the second though. He looks a bit of a beast as well.

Agree with that, and wass surprised that Santini was so close. Didn't appear to travel all that well, and the hill will suit him much better.

I've got a couple points on Topofthegame already, and think Delta Work is the one from over the pond.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2018, 02:55:53 PM
Hopefully Worlds End will be off to the 4 miler, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on December 26, 2018, 03:04:29 PM
Tal Towers have alliteratively plumped for Thistlecrack with a dinky bet on Tea for Two.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2018, 03:12:26 PM
Carnage!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2018, 03:13:02 PM
Nice one, Adz!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 26, 2018, 07:42:11 PM
Im told Sir Erec is the real deal. Makes its debut at Leo tomorrow, worth a bit ante post for the Triumph.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on December 26, 2018, 07:46:09 PM
Congrats on the KG winner adz and hope you get the lot on the GC.  That is a very tasty price you got across multiple GC's now hopefully. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on December 26, 2018, 07:59:12 PM
Cheers :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 01, 2019, 01:40:20 AM
Many Happy Returns to all of the horses in training  ;charmaine;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2019, 01:24:03 PM
Good race coming up at Chelts!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2019, 01:41:34 PM
DDS & LiT did it well, but Black Op jumps like Adz is riding it, and OTBS just never looked interested.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 01, 2019, 02:40:40 PM
Backed Al Boum Photo @ 33/1 with Sky while they were running, and had a couple pts on him for the Ryanair @ 12/1 (Both NRNB)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on January 02, 2019, 08:43:48 PM
https://www.starsportsbet.co.uk/bettingpeople-alastair-down/

Love AD and this is a great listen.  Love how he is smoking a fag with the washing machine whizzing around whilst being interviewed in his house in the Cotswolds with his map of Cheltenham on the wall in the background.  Big miss for me on ITV racing and his writing style in the RP over the years was always a pleasure to read.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 02, 2019, 09:45:59 PM
https://www.starsportsbet.co.uk/bettingpeople-alastair-down/

Love AD and this is a great listen.  Love how he is smoking a fag with the washing machine whizzing around whilst being interviewed in his house in the Cotswolds with his map of Cheltenham on the wall in the background.  Big miss for me on ITV racing and his writing style in the RP over the years was always a pleasure to read.

Watching this now, and it's a really good interview.

Could listen to him wittering on all day.

Cheers for posting.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on January 02, 2019, 09:48:46 PM
Would love to have a few pints with him in his fav country boozer.  Would be a very enjoyable evening.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 02, 2019, 11:44:40 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20naVzLYr20

This is who I'd like to have a few with, though I wouldn't want to be working the next day ;D

Loves drinking, poker, and punting!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 02, 2019, 11:45:19 PM
Would love to have a few pints with him in his fav country boozer.  Would be a very enjoyable evening.

You just know he's got plenty of good stories that never made it into that video.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on January 02, 2019, 11:57:56 PM
would love to have a session with PK on the friday of cheltenham when he downs tools and goes to his local for a huge punting fest and about 20 pints once the weeks work is done.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2019, 12:14:54 AM
would love to have a session with PK on the friday of cheltenham when he downs tools and goes to his local for a huge punting fest and about 20 pints once the weeks work is done.

Think he lives just outside London doesn't he?

Morden or Sunbury, and drinks in some proper racing pub.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on January 03, 2019, 01:33:26 AM
Epsom way i think.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2019, 02:08:19 AM
He was on about it on the podcast earlier in the year, but can't remember what it was called, and what town.

Sure the boozer he was on about is a racing pub, that always has racing on at weekends.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 03, 2019, 07:40:02 AM
I would imagine Tony Calvin has some tales to tell as well....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 03, 2019, 11:57:48 AM

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr



YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0wQzq9Yzg


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 03, 2019, 12:33:03 PM
probably watching that arrrrrrrrrrrrr 100 times brilliant

Tom Durkin was brilliant

Meanwhile at Monmouth

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3GKiRp333w


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 03, 2019, 12:36:38 PM
This is a bit more niche

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svuNMW3vsLU


This is Frank Mirahmadi now caller at Nyra tracks. He actually started by doing these impressions regularly which got him noticed.

The impressions are superb


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: edgascoigne on January 03, 2019, 04:13:43 PM
I would imagine Tony Calvin has some tales to tell as well....

I had the pleasure of working with TC at Betfair.

Can confirm his tea order is the incredible “two bags, five sugars”.

I nearly fell over the first time he told me that!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 03, 2019, 05:25:07 PM
I would imagine Tony Calvin has some tales to tell as well....

I had the pleasure of working with TC at Betfair.

Can confirm his tea order is the incredible “two bags, five sugars”.

I nearly fell over the first time he told me that!!

To mask the taste probably :D

Horrible stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 03, 2019, 06:39:33 PM
Part 3 of Down up

Brilliant story about the day they had the lot on a sir mark thing they owned


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 04, 2019, 06:55:50 PM
done a big scoop perm for tomorrow provisionally 4800 lines. unconventional picks

4x4x5x4x5x3   if anyone wants in its a real punty perm gonna make min buyin 5% so £480


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2019, 07:05:38 PM
Haha, go on Trigg.

Bit rich for my blood, but hope you get the lot!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2019, 07:25:15 PM
done a big scoop perm for tomorrow provisionally 4800 lines. unconventional picks

4x4x5x4x5x3   if anyone wants in its a real punty perm gonna make min buyin 5% so £480

LOL. Proper punter/nutter....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 04, 2019, 07:31:37 PM
yeh i need nutters/punters. one race ive disgarded first 5 in the market. if we win we'll be the only ones who do


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 04, 2019, 07:37:43 PM
yeh i need nutters/punters. one race ive disgarded first 5 in the market. if we win we'll be the only ones who do


Don't even know what the Scoop races are mate, but I wish you the very best of luck, but include Enola Gay in your perms, if its one of the races! ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: sovietsong on January 04, 2019, 07:40:12 PM
yeh i need nutters/punters. one race ive disgarded first 5 in the market. if we win we'll be the only ones who do

I didn’t read this before I replied on twitter!

Need to have a think before flicking it in rofl


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: sovietsong on January 04, 2019, 07:43:04 PM
done a big scoop perm for tomorrow provisionally 4800 lines. unconventional picks

4x4x5x4x5x3   if anyone wants in its a real punty perm gonna make min buyin 5% so £480

I’ll take 5% mate, bottled the 10 😂


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 04, 2019, 07:43:50 PM
theyre a nightmare set of races including two from cork


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 04, 2019, 07:44:37 PM
done a big scoop perm for tomorrow provisionally 4800 lines. unconventional picks

4x4x5x4x5x3   if anyone wants in its a real punty perm gonna make min buyin 5% so £480

I’ll take 5% mate, bottled the 10 😂

class. will PM in the morning about 9am mate


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 04, 2019, 07:57:47 PM
Hoping Laurina wins really well tomorrow, so I can take the freeroll, and not worry when William sends her to the mares.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Ledders on January 04, 2019, 09:11:19 PM
Is it +ev to play the scoop 6 tomorrow throwing random darts?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on January 04, 2019, 09:58:29 PM
Sold out


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 04, 2019, 10:03:43 PM
Sold out

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 05, 2019, 12:53:32 PM
The question we are all asking.....Did Trigg make it past the first??


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 05, 2019, 01:55:15 PM
The question we are all asking.....Did Trigg make it past the first??
o

Don't know how or when, but he Tweeted about an hour ago.....

"gg Scoop :("


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 05, 2019, 02:18:11 PM
Not the best of results to kick things off......Enola just beat having been hampered at last........


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 05, 2019, 03:39:00 PM
What a wanker Ed Chamberlin is - afraid to pronounce Monsieur LeCoq correctly - always knew he was a wrong 'un.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on January 05, 2019, 04:32:19 PM
Good job Fukuto was running before ITV came on air.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 05, 2019, 04:56:11 PM
I wonder who will be co' o' the North this year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 05, 2019, 09:08:27 PM
Part 3 of Down up

Brilliant story about the day they had the lot on a sir mark thing they owned

That Nortons one, too :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 05, 2019, 10:51:45 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz8zxK57nQA

Think Nick Luck is top drawer, too. Massive mistake not having him as lead host for ITV, and I like Jedward.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on January 05, 2019, 10:59:22 PM
would have been substantially cheaper financially as well surely than Ed's sky contract and expectations?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 05, 2019, 11:25:17 PM
Yeah, I can't imagine that's too cheap.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 06, 2019, 04:17:54 PM
YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmNIluBokqQ

Brian Hasting's best mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Juperjiper on January 12, 2019, 06:24:56 PM
Scoop 6 rollover again?
What’s the biggest it’s been


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on January 17, 2019, 09:41:48 AM
https://twitter.com/Jimbo_JumpsMan/status/1085596643150520320

Wonderful scenes.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on January 17, 2019, 09:53:28 AM
Scoop 6 rollover again?
What’s the biggest it’s been

Quite a bit bigger.  We had a crack at it here. 

theguardian.com/sport/2014/may/25/dublin-scoop6-punter-unaware-of-million-pound-win (http://theguardian.com/sport/2014/may/25/dublin-scoop6-punter-unaware-of-million-pound-win)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 17, 2019, 01:31:39 PM
https://twitter.com/Jimbo_JumpsMan/status/1085596643150520320

Wonderful scenes.

Magic stuff.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on January 17, 2019, 01:49:21 PM
Scoop 6 rollover again?
What’s the biggest it’s been

Quite a bit bigger.  We had a crack at it here. 

theguardian.com/sport/2014/may/25/dublin-scoop6-punter-unaware-of-million-pound-win (http://theguardian.com/sport/2014/may/25/dublin-scoop6-punter-unaware-of-million-pound-win)

https://totesport.mobi/promotions/totepool/cashback-club

10% back as cash includes Scoop Six paid on the next Monday worth doing if you are going alone/small group

If you are part of a massive syndicate you may already be getting a better deal :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on January 19, 2019, 09:14:27 AM
1.25 Lingfield Maybe Today 5/1 runs in first time cheekpieces for Simon Crisford.  His stats on the all weather in these circumstances are 7 runs 5 wins 271% ROI.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on January 19, 2019, 01:28:56 PM
not today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 19, 2019, 01:53:33 PM
not today

:)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2019, 11:34:14 AM
At the start of the year the top guy of the Yes, No, Wait, Sorries, Chris Coley, told us the horse in Fergs yard that(that he also owns)Jarveys Plate was the most exciting horse in the yard.

He won nicely on New Years Day over C&D and is a defo runner(next few days fingers crossed etc)in the Ballymore Trial on Saturday. Appear to be some whispers that Champ may not turn up as Hendo playing it safe with some of his stars.

The 9/2 went early doors but still some 7/2 about, and if Champ goes and the field cuts up could look a cracking ew bet even at that price come Saturday.

Take a deep breath and push the button if you dare!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 22, 2019, 11:51:24 AM
At the start of the year the top guy of the Yes, No, Wait, Sorries, Chris Coley, told us the horse in Fergs yard that(that he also owns)Jarveys Plate was the most exciting horse in the yard.

He won nicely on New Years Day over C&D and is a defo runner(next few days fingers crossed etc)in the Ballymore Trial on Saturday. Appear to be some whispers that Champ may not turn up as Hendo playing it safe with some of his stars.

The 9/2 went early doors but still some 7/2 about, and if Champ goes and the field cuts up could look a cracking ew bet even at that price come Saturday.

Take a deep breath and push the button if you dare!

I see it is a general 16/1 for the real thing at Cheltenham. What's your current view on that?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2019, 01:00:55 PM
At the start of the year the top guy of the Yes, No, Wait, Sorries, Chris Coley, told us the horse in Fergs yard that(that he also owns)Jarveys Plate was the most exciting horse in the yard.

He won nicely on New Years Day over C&D and is a defo runner(next few days fingers crossed etc)in the Ballymore Trial on Saturday. Appear to be some whispers that Champ may not turn up as Hendo playing it safe with some of his stars.

The 9/2 went early doors but still some 7/2 about, and if Champ goes and the field cuts up could look a cracking ew bet even at that price come Saturday.

Take a deep breath and push the button if you dare!

I see it is a general 16/1 for the real thing at Cheltenham. What's your current view on that?


I know they will be keen to go to Chelts.

If he wins on Satutday, he surely goes for the Bally. If he gets beat staying on etc could well go Potato race. For both he is best priced 20s, but reality is, If Champ does turn up and he beats him, he is pretty much Ballymore Fav.

The video of his race at New Year makes for good viewing.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 22, 2019, 09:54:04 PM
One has popped up in my tracker left over from last year that I just cam't resist.

Royal Goldie was trained by Hughes last year and ran a couple of "interesting" races. Seems to have been sold to Lydia Richards and ran a typical 66-1 first time out/new stable/back of field run last time. Taking on a similar bunch and down a bit in the weights.

Maybe worth a few shekels ew at 50s!

Don't go mad, i could be a race or two, too early.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on January 22, 2019, 10:14:27 PM
One has popped up in my tracker left over from last year that I just cam't resist.

Royal Goldie was trained by Hughes last year and ran a couple of "interesting" races. Seems to have been sold to Lydia Richards and ran a typical 66-1 first time out/new stable/back of field run last time. Taking on a similar bunch and down a bit in the weights.

Maybe worth a few shekels ew at 50s!

Don't go mad, i could be a race or two, too early.

Where & when?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on January 22, 2019, 10:33:34 PM
One has popped up in my tracker left over from last year that I just cam't resist.

Royal Goldie was trained by Hughes last year and ran a couple of "interesting" races. Seems to have been sold to Lydia Richards and ran a typical 66-1 first time out/new stable/back of field run last time. Taking on a similar bunch and down a bit in the weights.

Maybe worth a few shekels ew at 50s!

Don't go mad, i could be a race or two, too early.


Where & when?

Kempton 19.15.....Wednesday


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on January 22, 2019, 10:49:14 PM
One has popped up in my tracker left over from last year that I just cam't resist.

Royal Goldie was trained by Hughes last year and ran a couple of "interesting" races. Seems to have been sold to Lydia Richards and ran a typical 66-1 first time out/new stable/back of field run last time. Taking on a similar bunch and down a bit in the weights.

Maybe worth a few shekels ew at 50s!

Don't go mad, i could be a race or two, too early.

Thanks, Adz

All aboard ;technolog;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on January 23, 2019, 09:06:06 AM
One has popped up in my tracker left over from last year that I just cam't resist.

Royal Goldie was trained by Hughes last year and ran a couple of "interesting" races. Seems to have been sold to Lydia Richards and ran a typical 66-1 first time out/new stable/back of field run last time. Taking on a similar bunch and down a bit in the weights.

Maybe worth a few shekels ew at 50s!

Don't go mad, i could be a race or two, too early.

Thanks, Adz

All aboard ;technolog;

Sigh

Everybody off

(https://keyassets.timeincuk.net/inspirewp/live/wp-content/uploads/sites/18/2015/05/CFCS-recovering-a-man-overboard.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2019, 09:07:02 AM
Ho hum....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 23, 2019, 07:53:32 PM
At the start of the year the top guy of the Yes, No, Wait, Sorries, Chris Coley, told us the horse in Fergs yard that(that he also owns)Jarveys Plate was the most exciting horse in the yard.

He won nicely on New Years Day over C&D and is a defo runner(next few days fingers crossed etc)in the Ballymore Trial on Saturday. Appear to be some whispers that Champ may not turn up as Hendo playing it safe with some of his stars.

The 9/2 went early doors but still some 7/2 about, and if Champ goes and the field cuts up could look a cracking ew bet even at that price come Saturday.

Take a deep breath and push the button if you dare!


Champ out.

Good news so far. Generally 2-1 now, best a stand out 5/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on January 30, 2019, 10:46:28 PM
Not sure if anyone saw the race won with Cliff Lines final runner today.

Tell me with a straight face that the race wasn't gifted to him and I know you're a liar.

Some appalling weak rides in behind, but good luck to the old boy, he finished by having it bang off.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on January 31, 2019, 12:53:30 PM
'Jockeys' race....Josh had one too :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 03, 2019, 01:47:32 PM
Im told Sir Erec is the real deal. Makes its debut at Leo tomorrow, worth a bit ante post for the Triumph.....


I hope a few took some 25s.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 03, 2019, 02:09:48 PM
Great shout mate I didn't see the post or I'd have played.
I'm on pic d'ohry with marky


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 03, 2019, 03:26:41 PM
How about Outlander at a working-man's price in the 4-runner Irish Gold Cup?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 03, 2019, 03:57:28 PM
A couple of fantastically well-ridden finishes by Ruby today, he really does look back to his very best.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 03, 2019, 04:33:16 PM
Good racing, even though it's a shame so many got pulled.

Irish commentator is so com.

Im told Sir Erec is the real deal. Makes its debut at Leo tomorrow, worth a bit ante post for the Triumph.....


I hope a few took some 25s.....

Didn't manage that, but got 20s with everyday, and just layed my 4pts back @ 3.6.

Great shout mate.

Pic/Erec/Adjali tricast would be nice :D



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 10, 2019, 11:59:50 AM
Nick Luck v Michael Dickinson was an experience.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on February 11, 2019, 09:07:11 AM
https://www.racingtv.com/videos/watch/ondemand/26997


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 11, 2019, 05:23:07 PM
Bit lively for a Sunday morning :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 20, 2019, 01:28:58 PM
Incred scenes

Eddie O Leary says RUK are taking the piss out of the Irish racing coverage, and very next day we get paddock shots, down to the post, in depth chatting etc etc.

WP Eddie or poor show RUK in the first place....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 23, 2019, 02:03:09 PM
Bags Groove apologises for that poor run last time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 23, 2019, 02:46:45 PM
Bags Groove apologises for that poor run last time.

:D

Had a fiver freebet, so chucked it on a Kempton bingo bet - Bags/Fusil/Scarlet/Talkischeap


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 23, 2019, 02:55:23 PM
Bags Groove apologises for that poor run last time.

:D

Had a fiver freebet, so chucked it on a Kempton bingo bet - Bags/Fusil/Scarlet/Talkischeap

 ;cheerleader;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 23, 2019, 03:17:32 PM
GG :D

Just cashed out my bet on Angel's Breath for the Supreme, too.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 23, 2019, 05:04:24 PM
Not sure what to make of AB.

Nico such a magic rider, but clearly under instruction to give it experience and not beat it up.

Not sure it is a dead duck but as u said if u backed it at 10s you can get you money back and redo under nrnb(which I just did)or see if it goes Ballymore, which looks a lively alternative for my money, if its entered.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 24, 2019, 03:29:27 PM
Not sure what to make of AB.

Nico such a magic rider, but clearly under instruction to give it experience and not beat it up.

Not sure it is a dead duck but as u said if u backed it at 10s you can get you money back and redo under nrnb(which I just did)or see if it goes Ballymore, which looks a lively alternative for my money, if its entered.

Think that's what I am going to do, as having cashed out, I think I'd be sick if I let it win :D

Looks like it would be better suited to the Ballymore, however, you have to think Cheltenham on g/s will suit it much better than Kempton on good.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 25, 2019, 10:30:33 AM
Le Richebourg now out for the season.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 25, 2019, 02:55:50 PM
Le Richebourg now out for the season.


Had a lovely position on him, but had only traded stake back  ;noflopshomer;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on February 25, 2019, 06:46:32 PM
Le Richbourg has completed scuppered my big plans.

Was hoping to get Duc Des Genivres to eith the Close Bros or Grand Annual, as they had clearly been not trying very hard.

However he then bolted up LTO, was introduced into the Arkle Market, where I did take some 20s and 16s, just in case, but not enough.

Todays happenings have seen him shrink to as low as a stand out 8s with Billy(who are also stand out 5s with Defi who could be his biggest danger if rerouted).

Elated on one hand frustrated and reminded to be careful on the other.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on February 28, 2019, 02:32:46 PM
Glen forsa gonna win on the snaff


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 28, 2019, 02:53:21 PM
Glen forsa gonna win on the snaff

Hope not.

Kalashnikov is a boat, should be in the JLT.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 07, 2019, 12:26:46 PM
Think Sea Shack is a bit overpriced at 25/1 in the first at Chelmsford today based on two recent 2nd places (form of which seems to work out quite well) under today's apprentice who has a good record at Chelmsford


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 07, 2019, 01:37:34 PM
Think Sea Shack is a bit overpriced at 25/1 in the first at Chelmsford today based on two recent 2nd places (form of which seems to work out quite well) under today's apprentice who has a good record at Chelmsford

Cheers Simon.

Don't need to be right too often at 25/1, so gets my tenner :)


Good luck us!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 07, 2019, 01:46:37 PM

Arm suitably twisted, thanks Simon.

ON


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 07, 2019, 06:33:14 PM
Think Sea Shack is a bit overpriced at 25/1 in the first at Chelmsford today based on two recent 2nd places (form of which seems to work out quite well) under today's apprentice who has a good record at Chelmsford

Very happy with that, thank you.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 07, 2019, 07:53:01 PM
That was an excellent run from a terrible draw - now in the tracker.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: scotty2hatty on March 07, 2019, 11:59:29 PM
Can someone give me a decent priced winner for the Friday of Cheltenham please? Going down to Romford for Golden Sprint final the same day and want to throw double on for the sweat.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 08, 2019, 02:35:23 AM
Can someone give me a decent priced winner for the Friday of Cheltenham please? Going down to Romford for Golden Sprint final the same day and want to throw double on for the sweat.

Don't want much :D

Bellshill in the Gold Cup.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 09, 2019, 12:13:03 PM
Looking forward to that plonker Chamberlin wrestling with the unpronounceable(for squeaky clean him) Monsieur Lecoq today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 09, 2019, 02:03:59 PM
1/10 shot bet for bundles in the photo at Sandown which has a renowned terrible angle and two winning-posts.

The coverage followed one post and the judge was looking at the other...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 09, 2019, 02:11:04 PM
1/10 shot bet for bundles in the photo at Sandown which has a renowned terrible angle and two winning-posts.

The coverage followed one post and the judge was looking at the other...

Be sober people fighting at the racecourse today, lol.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on March 09, 2019, 02:20:26 PM
1/10 shot bet for bundles in the photo at Sandown which has a renowned terrible angle and two winning-posts.

The coverage followed one post and the judge was looking at the other...

Be sober people fighting at the racecourse today, lol.

Not me ;-)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on March 09, 2019, 02:27:10 PM
1/10 shot bet for bundles in the photo at Sandown which has a renowned terrible angle and two winning-posts.

The coverage followed one post and the judge was looking at the other...

Be sober people fighting at the racecourse today, lol.

Not me ;-)

Maybe me!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on March 09, 2019, 02:37:27 PM
1/10 shot bet for bundles in the photo at Sandown which has a renowned terrible angle and two winning-posts.

The coverage followed one post and the judge was looking at the other...

Be sober people fighting at the racecourse today, lol.

Not me ;-)

Maybe me!


 ;technophobe;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: jakally on March 09, 2019, 02:48:46 PM
1/10 shot bet for bundles in the photo at Sandown which has a renowned terrible angle and two winning-posts.

The coverage followed one post and the judge was looking at the other...

Be sober people fighting at the racecourse today, lol.

Not me ;-)

Maybe me!


 ;technophobe;

Was the result changed? Announced One for Rosie as the winner on the stream I was watching.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on March 09, 2019, 02:54:23 PM
1/10 shot bet for bundles in the photo at Sandown which has a renowned terrible angle and two winning-posts.

The coverage followed one post and the judge was looking at the other...

Be sober people fighting at the racecourse today, lol.

Not me ;-)

Maybe me!


 ;technophobe;

Was the result changed? Announced One for Rosie as the winner on the stream I was watching.

Yep. Apparently it won, if you were using the other finishing post.

What a way to start the week!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on March 09, 2019, 03:03:50 PM
Turns out Mark was correct

Mr Giblin and I will be fighting in the Market Square in Nottingham at 12 midday Friday 15th March if anyone would like to cheer us along!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 09, 2019, 03:08:35 PM
Turns out Mark was correct

Mr Giblin and I will be fighting in the Market Square in Nottingham at 12 midday Friday 15th March if anyone would like to cheer us along!

You'l be able to get out of it in the chelters comp Stu.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on March 09, 2019, 03:28:10 PM
Take it all back

Moaned it in

Wont here a bad word about skybet!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 09, 2019, 03:32:40 PM
Take it all back

Moaned it in

Wont here a bad word about skybet!

:D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: jakally on March 09, 2019, 03:36:27 PM
Take it all back

Moaned it in

Wont here a bad word about skybet!

Slightly disappointing. Does this mean the scuffle is off? Was looking forward to utilising my obvious weight advantage.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on March 09, 2019, 03:56:28 PM
Sandown was a joke today, if a jockey had mistook the winning line and dropped his hands the stewards would be down on him/her like a ton of bricks, but its prob all ok that one of those pompous twats can fk up big time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 09, 2019, 03:57:45 PM
Sandown was a joke today, if a jockey had mistook the winning line and dropped his hands the stewards would be down on him/her like a ton of bricks, but its prob all ok that one of those pompous twats can fk up big time.

Total f up.

I guess from your tone you were on Rosie.?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on March 09, 2019, 04:01:51 PM
 i had backed Boldmere which was nowhere ... .....just annoys me that the stewards are quick to blame and fine/ban jockeys for split second mistakes but nothing done about their fk ups


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 09, 2019, 05:46:41 PM
Take it all back

Moaned it in

Wont here a bad word about skybet!

What a rollercoaster!

They should probably sort out that thing they've known about for years, though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 09, 2019, 06:42:27 PM

Any bookies who offered Money Back as Cash if your horse "loses" would have had a mare of an afternoon.....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 10, 2019, 08:13:02 AM
i had backed Boldmere which was nowhere ... .....just annoys me that the stewards are quick to blame and fine/ban jockeys for split second mistakes but nothing done about their fk ups


Yup. Agree totally.

I saw some fall out on RUK where a rather camp young chap was saying it wasn't an issue as they hadn't weighed in, and therefore not an issue, before he flounced off back to the stewards room.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 10, 2019, 09:58:21 AM
Take it all back

Moaned it in

Wont here a bad word about skybet!

What a rollercoaster!

They should probably sort out that thing they've known about for years, though.

Are you talking about the winning posts?  It is pretty hard because the chase course and the hurdle course are different.   The hurdle course goes straight up the rail, but the chase course goes up and over the pond fence. 

If they put the finishing posts together on the far side, one side of the track would get an advantage in either the hurdle or chase races.  If they did, it should probably be the chase track that suffers, as the hurdle rail would be too much of an advantage.   Don't think they can redesign the whole course and it is good to have quirks, and I love Sandown.  I am glad that I wasn't an on course bookie there.   I am not sure why punters are moaning, if the right winner wa settled in the end, they haven't lost anything.   




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 10, 2019, 10:09:53 AM
Take it all back

Moaned it in

Wont here a bad word about skybet!

What a rollercoaster!

They should probably sort out that thing they've known about for years, though.

Are you talking about the winning posts?  It is pretty hard because the chase course and the hurdle course are different.   The hurdle course goes straight up the rail, but the chase course goes up and over the pond fence. 

If they put the finishing posts together on the far side, one side of the track would get an advantage in either the hurdle or chase races.  If they did, it should probably be the chase track that suffers, as the hurdle rail would be too much of an advantage.   Don't think they can redesign the whole course and it is good to have quirks, and I love Sandown.  I am glad that I wasn't an on course bookie there.   I am not sure why punters are moaning, if the right winner wa settled in the end, they haven't lost anything.   




I think the ones that suffered were the punters who claimed their place money from the bookies in exchange for their tickets.

If they then returned to the bookie and said they wanted the winnings for the amended first place they were told to fill out a form and make a claim which might take weeks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 10, 2019, 10:14:17 AM
Take it all back

Moaned it in

Wont here a bad word about skybet!

What a rollercoaster!

They should probably sort out that thing they've known about for years, though.

Are you talking about the winning posts?  It is pretty hard because the chase course and the hurdle course are different.   The hurdle course goes straight up the rail, but the chase course goes up and over the pond fence. 

If they put the finishing posts together on the far side, one side of the track would get an advantage in either the hurdle or chase races.  If they did, it should probably be the chase track that suffers, as the hurdle rail would be too much of an advantage.   Don't think they can redesign the whole course and it is good to have quirks, and I love Sandown.  I am glad that I wasn't an on course bookie there.   I am not sure why punters are moaning, if the right winner wa settled in the end, they haven't lost anything.   




I think the ones that suffered were the punters who claimed their place money from the bookies in exchange for their tickets.

If they then returned to the bookie and said they wanted the winnings for the amended first place they were told to fill out a form and make a claim which might take weeks.

Ah ok, I didn't realise that.  I have just seen a bunch of people moaning online on twitter etc.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 10, 2019, 10:18:32 AM
Take it all back

Moaned it in

Wont here a bad word about skybet!

What a rollercoaster!

They should probably sort out that thing they've known about for years, though.

Are you talking about the winning posts?  It is pretty hard because the chase course and the hurdle course are different.   The hurdle course goes straight up the rail, but the chase course goes up and over the pond fence. 

If they put the finishing posts together on the far side, one side of the track would get an advantage in either the hurdle or chase races.  If they did, it should probably be the chase track that suffers, as the hurdle rail would be too much of an advantage.   Don't think they can redesign the whole course and it is good to have quirks, and I love Sandown.  I am glad that I wasn't an on course bookie there.   I am not sure why punters are moaning, if the right winner wa settled in the end, they haven't lost anything.   




I will just add that because Sandown slopes down towards the inside, a lot of chase runners will naturally drift down towards the far rail even if it is a disadvantage to do so.   So if I had to move one winning post, it would be the chase one.

Good to see you and your Dad last night Tal.  Enjoyed it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 10, 2019, 10:44:34 AM
Take it all back

Moaned it in

Wont here a bad word about skybet!

What a rollercoaster!

They should probably sort out that thing they've known about for years, though.

Are you talking about the winning posts?  It is pretty hard because the chase course and the hurdle course are different.   The hurdle course goes straight up the rail, but the chase course goes up and over the pond fence.  

If they put the finishing posts together on the far side, one side of the track would get an advantage in either the hurdle or chase races.  If they did, it should probably be the chase track that suffers, as the hurdle rail would be too much of an advantage.   Don't think they can redesign the whole course and it is good to have quirks, and I love Sandown.  I am glad that I wasn't an on course bookie there.   I am not sure why punters are moaning, if the right winner wa settled in the end, they haven't lost anything.  




I will just add that because Sandown slopes down towards the inside, a lot of chase runners will naturally drift down towards the far rail even if it is a disadvantage to do so.   So if I had to move one winning post, it would be the chase one.

Good to see you and your Dad last night Tal.  Enjoyed it.

Thanks, Doobs. You too.

Anything would be better than having two identical posts. One bright yellow and lit up. Easily removable posts? Marking one 'CHASE and one HURDLE? Quirks are having a golf course in the middle or a road running through the track. This one is man made and an avoidable inconvenience.

Not spitting feathers here. Just seems a bit daft really.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 10, 2019, 10:46:24 AM
Take it all back

Moaned it in

Wont here a bad word about skybet!

What a rollercoaster!

They should probably sort out that thing they've known about for years, though.

Are you talking about the winning posts?  It is pretty hard because the chase course and the hurdle course are different.   The hurdle course goes straight up the rail, but the chase course goes up and over the pond fence. 

If they put the finishing posts together on the far side, one side of the track would get an advantage in either the hurdle or chase races.  If they did, it should probably be the chase track that suffers, as the hurdle rail would be too much of an advantage.   Don't think they can redesign the whole course and it is good to have quirks, and I love Sandown.  I am glad that I wasn't an on course bookie there.   I am not sure why punters are moaning, if the right winner wa settled in the end, they haven't lost anything.   




I will just add that because Sandown slopes down towards the inside, a lot of chase runners will naturally drift down towards the far rail even if it is a disadvantage to do so.   So if I had to move one winning post, it would be the chase one.

Good to see you and your Dad last night Tal.  Enjoyed it.

Thanks, Doobs. You too.

Anything would be better than having two identical posts. One bright yellow and lit up. Easily removable posts? Marking one 'CHASE and one HURDLE?

I'm pretty sure the second "lollipop" is red, not sure what colour the first one is.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 10, 2019, 11:28:37 AM
Take it all back

Moaned it in

Wont here a bad word about skybet!

What a rollercoaster!

They should probably sort out that thing they've known about for years, though.

Are you talking about the winning posts?  It is pretty hard because the chase course and the hurdle course are different.   The hurdle course goes straight up the rail, but the chase course goes up and over the pond fence.  

If they put the finishing posts together on the far side, one side of the track would get an advantage in either the hurdle or chase races.  If they did, it should probably be the chase track that suffers, as the hurdle rail would be too much of an advantage.   Don't think they can redesign the whole course and it is good to have quirks, and I love Sandown.  I am glad that I wasn't an on course bookie there.   I am not sure why punters are moaning, if the right winner wa settled in the end, they haven't lost anything.  




I will just add that because Sandown slopes down towards the inside, a lot of chase runners will naturally drift down towards the far rail even if it is a disadvantage to do so.   So if I had to move one winning post, it would be the chase one.

Good to see you and your Dad last night Tal.  Enjoyed it.

Thanks, Doobs. You too.

Anything would be better than having two identical posts. One bright yellow and lit up. Easily removable posts? Marking one 'CHASE and one HURDLE? Quirks are having a golf course in the middle or a road running through the track. This one is man made and an avoidable inconvenience.

Not spitting feathers here. Just seems a bit daft really.

I do like the chase and hurdle idea.   No idea what colour they both are, but got a good idea of the geography as I was a member there for years. 

I guess they'll sort it now one way or the other.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on March 10, 2019, 12:37:51 PM
there is a red 'lollipop' that they move to  either post depending if its hurdles or chase, it was in correct position, just the knob in charge of the photo button didnt know or see it .
yes adz that bloke that was on tv explaining it was right donut :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 12, 2019, 07:18:39 PM
Le Richbourg has completed scuppered my big plans.

Was hoping to get Duc Des Genivres to eith the Close Bros or Grand Annual, as they had clearly been not trying very hard.

However he then bolted up LTO, was introduced into the Arkle Market, where I did take some 20s and 16s, just in case, but not enough.

Todays happenings have seen him shrink to as low as a stand out 8s with Billy(who are also stand out 5s with Defi who could be his biggest danger if rerouted).

Elated on one hand frustrated and reminded to be careful on the other.



Booooooooooooomio.

I hope a few got on.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Tal on March 12, 2019, 08:05:08 PM
Le Richbourg has completed scuppered my big plans.

Was hoping to get Duc Des Genivres to eith the Close Bros or Grand Annual, as they had clearly been not trying very hard.

However he then bolted up LTO, was introduced into the Arkle Market, where I did take some 20s and 16s, just in case, but not enough.

Todays happenings have seen him shrink to as low as a stand out 8s with Billy(who are also stand out 5s with Defi who could be his biggest danger if rerouted).

Elated on one hand frustrated and reminded to be careful on the other.



Booooooooooooomio.

I hope a few got on.




Well done, Adz.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 12, 2019, 08:16:53 PM
Le Richbourg has completed scuppered my big plans.

Was hoping to get Duc Des Genivres to eith the Close Bros or Grand Annual, as they had clearly been not trying very hard.

However he then bolted up LTO, was introduced into the Arkle Market, where I did take some 20s and 16s, just in case, but not enough.

Todays happenings have seen him shrink to as low as a stand out 8s with Billy(who are also stand out 5s with Defi who could be his biggest danger if rerouted).

Elated on one hand frustrated and reminded to be careful on the other.



Booooooooooooomio.

I hope a few got on.




Standard.

WP Adzy.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 12, 2019, 11:40:41 PM
I didn't fancy it at all before LR & CE came out, so suffered for aborting my usual 'I've missed the price, stick more on' method :D

Well done, mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on March 13, 2019, 09:18:04 AM
Short of time but  well invested in Urgent de Gregaine in X country. I think Felix was caught off guard last year by Tiger. Looks a cracking price to make a race of it.

Can see Lil Rockerfeller being Sat on behind the pace by Ms Frost and storming up the hill in these conditions.

Finally i hope Santinis poor little foot is ok, as he has a good few shekel on him. Conditions look optimum.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 13, 2019, 09:43:14 AM
Nicked a bit of 11s on Urgent with 4 places.

Good luck today, mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 14, 2019, 10:07:51 AM
Gambling Commission vs BetBright

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/mar/13/gambling-commission-content-betbright-voided-ante-post-bets (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/mar/13/gambling-commission-content-betbright-voided-ante-post-bets)

It looks like the green light given to future arrangements like this.  If they really don't have any powers to force Ricci Rich to honour these bets, at least they could use a few harsh words, "content" doesn't seem to be much of a warning to others.  And why is he still allowed to wander round Cheltenham, surely bookmakers who welsh on bets should no longer be allowed on course?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 14, 2019, 10:13:34 AM
Hope that bloke gets his £30k!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on March 25, 2019, 01:55:34 PM
This is so good.

https://www.racingtv.com/videos/watch/ondemand/29029

They don't make them like Barney any more.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on March 25, 2019, 03:39:45 PM
This is so good.

https://www.racingtv.com/videos/watch/ondemand/29029

They don't make them like Barney any more.

Just finished reading his book " The Sure Thing"

Well Chomps he holds  a different view to you on Tom Queally


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on March 25, 2019, 04:28:38 PM
Never had a major issue with Queally tbh, apart from the ride he gave Frankel in the Guineas, which would have ruined many a top-class horse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 27, 2019, 12:44:45 PM

You do see some weird shite on Twitter.....



 (http://i.imgur.com/pDsxtlo.jpg) (https://imgur.com/pDsxtlo)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on March 27, 2019, 12:58:47 PM
Same goes for the trainer Edna Bolger.......


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on March 29, 2019, 07:42:45 AM
2.30 Lingfield I bet Tavener 7/1 who has been consistent of late and Horse, trainer, jockey have been an effective combination. I took a second look at Diamond Lady as this was one of the more popular bets on oddschecker at 20-1 ew 4 places with PP - Does look well handicapped on best form including over C&D and has a pretty good record after a break.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on March 29, 2019, 09:52:23 AM
Tough draw for a front-runner/pace pusher Taverner and plenty of other pace in the race.

I always think 5f and 6f sprints are very different animals round here. You don't want to be too far away over 5f, but I'd prefer hold-uppers over six.

Think this could be set up for Aguerooo or Qaaraat.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on March 31, 2019, 10:02:06 AM
https://twitter.com/RacingTV/status/1111987459024396288

So well done


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on March 31, 2019, 10:16:54 AM
Very good. Great tribute to yer man Fehily.

Noticed he had a fair old sweat on in the studio, though... 😂


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 03, 2019, 03:23:25 PM
Possibly one of the worst calls in a long time as he says in the 3.15

"And Enola Gay looks slow as he gets outpaced" and a second later he picks up and he passes 4 horses in 20 yards.

Good old Simon Holt....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on April 05, 2019, 02:32:34 PM
Another poor piece of judgement again from Ruby, and given the number of quality rides he gets and the amount of races he isn't winning anymore, got to be close to the end.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on April 15, 2019, 07:31:19 PM
Newmarket 4:10 tomorrow
Arasugar

Seamus Mullins isn’t known for his flat 2yos, but I hear he thinks highly of this fillie. It ran with credit in a Cl3 at Doncaster (5/17) two weeks ago on debut, and the form looks reasonable. Only 2 places in the race, but 25/1 looks ludicrously generous given the form and that she’s one of only 2 with race experience.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Juperjiper on May 01, 2019, 06:33:42 PM
Walsh retires!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 01, 2019, 07:08:23 PM
Walsh retires!

Going out at the top  8)

Great ride. Great race, and going to be some Gold Cup next year.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on May 01, 2019, 10:03:45 PM
The best ever at the top of his game going out ON HIS TERMS

he had his critics but tbh look at the profiles of most of them on social media, acca short priced punters the sort the sport doesn't need.

tears in the eyes here earlier great to see

ROOOOOBEEEEE

can't wait to see him on RUK will be a fantastic addition


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 05, 2019, 12:17:11 PM

Kentucky Derby winner disqualified.....


https://twitter.com/KentuckyDerby/status/1124823071867703296


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 05, 2019, 05:20:12 PM

Kentucky Derby winner disqualified.....


https://twitter.com/KentuckyDerby/status/1124823071867703296

Political correctness, apparently.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 05, 2019, 07:37:24 PM

Kentucky Derby winner disqualified.....


https://twitter.com/KentuckyDerby/status/1124823071867703296

Political correctness, apparently.

Gotta love Trump.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 05, 2019, 07:41:46 PM

Kentucky Derby winner disqualified.....


https://twitter.com/KentuckyDerby/status/1124823071867703296

Political correctness, apparently.

Gotta love Trump.

Too funny :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 05, 2019, 08:46:59 PM

Kentucky Derby winner disqualified.....


https://twitter.com/KentuckyDerby/status/1124823071867703296

Political correctness, apparently.

Gotta love Trump.

Too funny :)

WTAF?



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 14, 2019, 08:59:58 PM
Gigginstown GGing racing... Shocker, for sure.

Big Willie only one who won't feel the pinch.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 14, 2019, 09:02:47 PM
Gigginstown GGing racing... Shocker, for sure.

Big Willie only one who won't feel the pinch.

Yeah, real surprise, & a big blow for Irish racing I'd have thought.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on May 14, 2019, 09:23:57 PM
Gigginstown GGing racing... Shocker, for sure.

Big Willie only one who won't feel the pinch.

Bet he is feeling very smug tonight old willie.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 14, 2019, 10:04:23 PM
If he were that way inclined, I bet he'd be loving it :D

Strikes me more of the kind that just cracks on whatever happens, and actually enjoyed the challenge.

Gigginstown GGing racing... Shocker, for sure.

Big Willie only one who won't feel the pinch.

Yeah, real surprise, & a big blow for Irish racing I'd have thought.

Now it's a question what comes quicker.... The end of Gigginstown, or your staking package  ;whistle;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on June 08, 2019, 05:29:06 PM

Gotta love Armchair Jockeys, most of whom have never sat on a horse in their life.


https://twitter.com/JoeSeward1/status/1136854610923024385


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 08, 2019, 05:59:52 PM

Gotta love Armchair Jockeys, most of whom have never sat on a horse in their life.


https://twitter.com/JoeSeward1/status/1136854610923024385

Probably had 50 pence e/w... Imagine having that for a father.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on June 08, 2019, 06:07:39 PM

Gotta love Armchair Jockeys, most of whom have never sat on a horse in their life.


https://twitter.com/JoeSeward1/status/1136854610923024385

Probably had 50 pence e/w... Imagine having that for a father.

Correct on both counts.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Matt50 on June 21, 2019, 07:47:41 PM
Am going to Lingfield races Saturday evening%
Don’t really follow flat racing so any decent tips would be much appreciated
Cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 21, 2019, 09:54:32 PM
Blazing Saddles getting the hang of things and should go v close in the 6.45.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Matt50 on June 22, 2019, 09:29:43 AM
Blazing Saddles getting the hang of things and should go v close in the 6.45.

GL

Nice one, cheers


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on June 22, 2019, 11:00:40 PM
Apples. Beaten a neck... ::)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Juperjiper on July 06, 2019, 01:50:20 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/BoycottBetfred/status/1147451184984317953/photo/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on August 23, 2019, 09:42:03 AM
The Gimcrack at 3pm looks Threats race to lose.

However, I have followed the progress of Summer Sands with interest and at 20s has to be worth an ew interest.

I am sure he is progressing nicely after a very promising run at Ascot last time.

GL


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 03, 2019, 07:30:42 AM
Will be posting on here a bit next month or so. Missus having hysterectomy today so daddy Trigg alone while she recovers.
Will be taking to the gg’s to make my money in the meantime hopefully.

One main bet today 4.40 catterick. Jan de Heem. Very solid, goes on any ground. Doesn’t win much but definitely
On a winning mark. The favourite is up 2f and we don’t know 100% it wants 12f. Think 13/2 is very fair

Two horses withdrawn before the start last time that I was told to bet heavily
Run today along with one I think is very good (cadre du noir) but the absence of 2 months
Puts me off a little. Anyway done a treble those 3 (small stakes)


5.35 cadre du noir 5/6
6.00 areheehar. 7/2
7.45 mawakib. 15/8


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 03, 2019, 08:08:11 AM
Will be posting on here a bit next month or so. Missus having hysterectomy today so daddy Trigg alone while she recovers.
Will be taking to the gg’s to make my money in the meantime hopefully.

One main bet today 4.40 catterick. Jan de Heem. Very solid, goes on any ground. Doesn’t win much but definitely
On a winning mark. The favourite is up 2f and we don’t know 100% it wants 12f. Think 13/2 is very fair

Two horses withdrawn before the start last time that I was told to bet heavily
Run today along with one I think is very good (cadre du noir) but the absence of 2 months
Puts me off a little. Anyway done a treble those 3 (small stakes)


5.35 cadre du noir 5/6
6.00 areheehar. 7/2
7.45 mawakib. 15/8


Been backing that old dog last 4 or 5 runs as it keeps travelling into races beautifully and not going by, under weak jockeys. Up against another serial dobber in Dew Pond, so fingers crossed. Would like to see a real strong jock given the opportunity though.

GO.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 03, 2019, 08:37:46 AM
gl for the next couple of months Trigg.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 03, 2019, 08:42:02 AM
Will be posting on here a bit next month or so. Missus having hysterectomy today so daddy Trigg alone while she recovers.
Will be taking to the gg’s to make my money in the meantime hopefully.

One main bet today 4.40 catterick. Jan de Heem. Very solid, goes on any ground. Doesn’t win much but definitely
On a winning mark. The favourite is up 2f and we don’t know 100% it wants 12f. Think 13/2 is very fair

Two horses withdrawn before the start last time that I was told to bet heavily
Run today along with one I think is very good (cadre du noir) but the absence of 2 months
Puts me off a little. Anyway done a treble those 3 (small stakes)


5.35 cadre du noir 5/6
6.00 areheehar. 7/2
7.45 mawakib. 15/8

GL Mr T, & GWS to Mrs T.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 03, 2019, 10:29:11 AM
Will be posting on here a bit next month or so. Missus having hysterectomy today so daddy Trigg alone while she recovers.
Will be taking to the gg’s to make my money in the meantime hopefully.

One main bet today 4.40 catterick. Jan de Heem. Very solid, goes on any ground. Doesn’t win much but definitely
On a winning mark. The favourite is up 2f and we don’t know 100% it wants 12f. Think 13/2 is very fair

Two horses withdrawn before the start last time that I was told to bet heavily
Run today along with one I think is very good (cadre du noir) but the absence of 2 months
Puts me off a little. Anyway done a treble those 3 (small stakes)


5.35 cadre du noir 5/6
6.00 areheehar. 7/2
7.45 mawakib. 15/8


Been backing that old dog last 4 or 5 runs as it keeps travelling into races beautifully and not going by, under weak jockeys. Up against another serial dobber in Dew Pond, so fingers crossed. Would like to see a real strong jock given the opportunity though.

GO.

Yeah agree. Very consistent though and if we take a chance the fav might underperform (penalty, ran on Saturday, extra distance) then has to be bang there. I’ll take a chance and it’s drifted to 15/2 with all the support for the fav


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 03, 2019, 10:29:36 AM
Thanks for the well wishes


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 03, 2019, 11:29:10 AM
Run well and get well Trigg and the missus.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 03, 2019, 04:46:21 PM
Will be posting on here a bit next month or so. Missus having hysterectomy today so daddy Trigg alone while she recovers.
Will be taking to the gg’s to make my money in the meantime hopefully.

One main bet today 4.40 catterick. Jan de Heem. Very solid, goes on any ground. Doesn’t win much but definitely
On a winning mark. The favourite is up 2f and we don’t know 100% it wants 12f. Think 13/2 is very fair

Two horses withdrawn before the start last time that I was told to bet heavily
Run today along with one I think is very good (cadre du noir) but the absence of 2 months
Puts me off a little. Anyway done a treble those 3 (small stakes)


5.35 cadre du noir 5/6
6.00 areheehar. 7/2
7.45 mawakib. 15/8


Ooh, thought you'd started with a nice winner there Rick.

Good effort & a profit anyway, thank you.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: engy on September 03, 2019, 04:58:58 PM
Thought it was going to come and take it, nice profit though. Cheers Rick


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 03, 2019, 07:56:16 PM
The horses in the treble were disappointing bar the 2nd of stoutes which will clearly make
A lovely horse.

If Hamilton goes ahead surely cosmic chatter has to go close.
Had half decent ew bet 9/2 but meeting could be abandoned
Few more to look at tomorrow depending how market goes


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 04, 2019, 08:20:28 AM
Hamilton abandoned

3.00 bath had a good ew bet strictly art 8/1
My mate has horses in the yard if comes back positive
I’ll have some more.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 04, 2019, 09:50:54 AM
Got decent word for it. Not one to trust too much though.
Certainly not one to trust is my 2nd bet today 1/4 the size of first bet
4.00 diamond reflection ew 25/1 4 places


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 05, 2019, 08:10:06 AM
Disappointed in strictly art yesterday. Ran very flat.

Like 4 today. 1 is too short vs a field of unexposed horses
                      1 is drawn 12 in the 8.40 Chelmsford. Might still have a win bet
                       But easy to throw the towel in if this prominent races can’t grab the lead

Two im betting are the lords walk 7/2 2.10 Salisbury. I actually think the no whip use
In this race could benefit this one more than others. Will be held up from the back
And come with a rattle.

6.50 lingfield Hallalulu 100/30. Didn’t stay the 12f last time and dropped back down to 10f
                     Tight handicap but I think this one has some good improvement to come.


Finding it very hard/impossible to study while being sole carer for 3 kids.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on September 05, 2019, 09:02:44 AM
Disappointed in strictly art yesterday. Ran very flat.

Like 4 today. 1 is too short vs a field of unexposed horses
                      1 is drawn 12 in the 8.40 Chelmsford. Might still have a win bet
                       But easy to throw the towel in if this prominent races can’t grab the lead

Two im betting are the lords walk 7/2 2.10 Salisbury. I actually think the no whip use
In this race could benefit this one more than others. Will be held up from the back
And come with a rattle.

6.50 lingfield Hallalulu 100/30. Didn’t stay the 12f last time and dropped back down to 10f
                     Tight handicap but I think this one has some good improvement to come.


Finding it very hard/impossible to study while being sole carer for 3 kids.

Good morning

Many thanks for posting your thoughts each day. Good luck with the childcare!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: engy on September 05, 2019, 12:19:55 PM
Same. Thanks for posting Rick


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 05, 2019, 02:52:29 PM
Be done in before WCOOP, Trigg!

Good luck with the nags, and moreso with the nippers.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 05, 2019, 04:57:09 PM
Won’t be able to play any wcoop at all mate.

Gonna be having a very large bet tomorrow price depending
Will post when on


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 05, 2019, 05:09:32 PM
First one you've missed for a while, I bet?

Hope Vicki is well on the mend lively, anyway.

Good luck tomorrow!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 05, 2019, 08:35:15 PM
Ugh awful the Johnstone horse.

Had a big bet dobrianka tomororw 8.50 Kempton 7/2.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on September 06, 2019, 09:42:35 AM
Ugh awful the Johnstone horse.

Had a big bet dobrianka tomororw 8.50 Kempton 7/2.

Cant believe I missed this last night!
Price long gone but I am on...... sorry.

Hope Vicky recovers quickly and good luck with the kids!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 06, 2019, 09:56:07 AM

Hope all goes well with Vicky, Mr T. And GL with tonight's Kempton jobbie.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 06, 2019, 03:47:18 PM
It's a bit of a smash-up job currently 5/4 from 7/2 early-doors with the stokies.

I fear for Trigg's account.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 07, 2019, 07:29:59 AM
Ouch. Horse didn’t want to know. High head carriage definately doesn’t put it all in.

Ropey guest 7/4
Fall in line 11/4
Pocket square 2/1

Little trixie today


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on September 07, 2019, 08:08:08 AM
Is the 2nd one First in Line 13.50 Haydock?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 07, 2019, 09:02:53 AM
That’s it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 10, 2019, 07:41:16 AM
Attempted to play some poker on the iPad this weekend but just can’t concentrate
Hitting the crossbar at the moment but should change this week. Have tasty 7/1 on logician
For the st ledger so however this week goes hopefully I’ll be collecting come Saturday evening

One I’m really keen on today is fox hill 2.30 catterick

Lot of the field would prefer it at least good to soft.
The stiff 5f here should be perfect I expect fox hill to blast out and
Be far too speedy for these. 5/1 at the moment I’d be amazed if doesn’t
Go off clear fav around 11/4


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 10, 2019, 10:42:32 AM
I feel for you with the playing poker and looking after kids at the same time.

I really struggle at times.  I played a WCOOP for the first time in ages last night, as it is near impossible to play late when you have to get up in the morning.  My youngest sensed this and decided it was appropriate to have a melt down just as my 10 O'clock tables opened. She is 7, and it was much more difficult when they were younger.  Now at least I can calm her down and put her back in bed without having to wait half an hour for her to drop off, and I don't ever need to change a nappy whilst at a final table anymore.

It is still pretty distracting though, and I still miss hands and cock them up whilst it was ongoing. 

I don't know if you ever saw Talonchick's twitch feed, she was so good at remaining calm when the kids came in.  I do try and emulate her, but still end up snapping at them too much  and that is so counter productive.

Good luck with the horses, and hope you missus is back to health quickly.   

 



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 10, 2019, 02:16:43 PM
It’s a single mans game really. At the highest level


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on September 10, 2019, 02:35:07 PM
Oi oi!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 10, 2019, 02:40:15 PM
Wow a winner 😱


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on September 10, 2019, 02:49:48 PM

Nice job Rick! Anyone have clarity on the rule 4? Seems to be different deductions from different bookies.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on September 10, 2019, 02:56:05 PM

Nice job Rick! Anyone have clarity on the rule 4? Seems to be different deductions from different bookies.

Edit: miscommunication by the person getting the bet on, as you were.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 10, 2019, 05:06:26 PM

Well done Mr T.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 10, 2019, 05:23:09 PM

Well done Mr T.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 10, 2019, 07:25:34 PM
Wow a winner 😱


Form temp, class perm. Nice one mate

I see Jan also won. Emma rode a cracker, but sure that extra couple of pounds will stop a follow up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 10, 2019, 08:03:29 PM
2 for tomorrow both medium strength

3.00 placebo effect ew 12/1 in the legends race
5.05 Carlisle royal shaheen to win was 8/1 I missed that I’ve
        Just bet win 11/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 11, 2019, 06:42:11 AM
Wow a winner 😱


Form temp, class perm. Nice one mate

I see Jan also won. Emma rode a cracker, but sure that extra couple of pounds will stop a follow up.

Yes I thought the horse that beat it last time was the one to take out and that duly
Won again on the same card yesterday (gylo) I did bet jan de heem but had most on top 4 finish at 5/4
And just small win. The horse seems in rare form


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 11, 2019, 06:52:18 AM
Placebo stand out 20/1 at hills at the moment


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 11, 2019, 07:06:28 AM
I’m gonna bet in the 3.00 listed sprint. Have a few theories in this race

Tiz marvellous I can’t have on a flat track. His record at Doncaster/york is poor and ascot with the uphill finish seems to suit best.
He looked unlucky in the bullet last time at beverley, another uphill finish track.

I have this firmly between el estranaute and equilateral. That’s not much help as
They’re 11/4 and 7/2.

I’m probably gonna lay TM 2 and 3 places and look for match bets with my 2 vs TM
And maybe play the forcast


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 11, 2019, 07:25:22 AM
Just seen placebo effect 38 on machine lol. I heard ollie pears was in decent shape


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 11, 2019, 10:31:37 AM
Uh-oh I'm strongly with Tis Marvellous today..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 11, 2019, 10:41:32 AM
I liked the way Queens Gift finished in the Bullet, dual CD winner and bad boy Callum R, trying 100% looked a good ew poke, even if he has a few pound to find in the ratings. Dods in form too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Juperjiper on September 11, 2019, 03:04:21 PM
 ;applause;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 11, 2019, 03:22:43 PM
Huge headwind at donny can’t believe TM was so prominent
Got away with it in the end. VUL queens gift adz. That’s one that does love a flat track
El Astronaute should get a well deserved break now


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: engy on September 11, 2019, 03:24:56 PM
Well done Rick and Adz. Top tipping


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 11, 2019, 09:19:59 PM
The headwind and prob olly pears shape did for placebo knew when it drifted so much
On machine. Other just ran poorly on faster ground than I’d hoped.

One bet tomororw in the jump jockeys race at Epsom lol
C’est no Mour was the only horse on the card to win from the rear
At Epsom last time similar tactics should work tomorrow 2/1 fair


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 12, 2019, 07:21:37 AM
Added two more both ew

1.50 sir Rodney red blood.5/1  Showed real good pace over 6f at Kempton
Has lots of form with cut from dams side and could make a bold bid from the front

3.15 donny war front 40/1 bit of a flyer here.  Won well from front last time on
A day where nothing else did similar. Has been gelded and could come on again
Race full of unexposed types keep stakes small here




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 12, 2019, 07:30:40 AM
Added two more both ew

1.50 sir Rodney red blood.5/1  Showed real good pace over 6f at Kempton
Has lots of form with cut from dams side and could make a bold bid from the front

3.15 donny war front 40/1 bit of a flyer here.  Won well from front last time on
A day where nothing else did similar. Has been gelded and could come on again
Race full of unexposed types keep stakes small here




Had Rodney in the tracker from a few runs ago, Blue Venture has looked a very short runner so far(barely gets the trip), he maybe still learning but appeared to have a very short quick stride pattern to me GL

Had Repartee as a good ew bet in War front race. Fred a stand out 12s earlier.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 12, 2019, 09:07:49 AM
War storm sorry lol


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 12, 2019, 09:40:34 AM
Think boomer is very solid at 13/2 in the May hill at donny
Won a group 3 cosily. Didn’t handle the bend very well there
Think this flatter track may suit vs a lot of unexposed could be
Anything types she’s the one for me ew. Owner talking about
Being a fillies mile and Guinees horse then this 1 mile should really suit
IF she runs her race and 3 finish infront of her then the race would be
Spectacular.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on September 12, 2019, 10:34:05 AM

I agree with all of the above. Stylistique, bringing form from the same Goodwood race, with a progressive profile and equally likely to be better suited by the track must be really solid at 6/1 in the first. If she goes well under the big weight, it’ll be a decent boost to the Boomer form. I think it’s worth backing them both.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 12, 2019, 01:53:51 PM
Good start 🤦‍♂️ Don’t know what to make of that


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 12, 2019, 04:26:31 PM
Added two more both ew

1.50 sir Rodney red blood.5/1  Showed real good pace over 6f at Kempton
Has lots of form with cut from dams side and could make a bold bid from the front

3.15 donny war front 40/1 bit of a flyer here.  Won well from front last time on
A day where nothing else did similar. Has been gelded and could come on again
Race full of unexposed types keep stakes small here




Had Rodney in the tracker from a few runs ago, Blue Venture has looked a very short runner so far(barely gets the trip), he maybe still learning but appeared to have a very short quick stride pattern to me GL

Had Repartee as a good ew bet in War front race. Fred a stand out 12s earlier.


More close but no cigar moments. More profit though.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 13, 2019, 06:54:25 AM
Nice one adz. Didn’t get anything right yesterday.

The jump jockeys derby lol they looked to have gone a crawl
Which the leader stole with a canny ride.

The headwind was playing havoc yesterday especially
In the small fields. Looks to be calmer today.

That said not found any bets. Gl all


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 13, 2019, 10:54:11 AM


Pretty sad news this.


Crystal Ocean: Career-ending injury for Sir Michael Stoute-trained five-year-old





https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/49686678


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 13, 2019, 11:52:31 PM
You have to wonder about these career ending injuries to top class stations in the making

Apart from needing logician to win

One strong bet tomororw

God of dreams ew 5/1 in the 3.30 Edinburgh


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 14, 2019, 09:08:29 AM
Did have a few beers last night and watching the horses replays
I’m not as confident as I was plus it’s on the drift a bit

Do like moment of madness quite a bit in the Portland


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 14, 2019, 10:56:39 AM
They have had some pretty poor fields this week, but finishing with races with 3 and 2 runners seems poor on Leger day.  There are going to be a lot of newbies there and this can't look good for them.   It isn't like the prize money in those two races is terrible either. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 14, 2019, 11:31:46 AM
Did have a few beers last night and watching the horses replays
I’m not as confident as I was plus it’s on the drift a bit

Do like moment of madness quite a bit in the Portland


Ran a much improved race last time and 4lb better off than last year.

I really like Gunmetal, who has run some crackers, since a big win in the Great St Wilf last year off similar mark.

The key for me is him getting a lead on his side. He has been slowly away last few times and I think the slower starters around him, might him an opportunity to be a bit closer to the pace. 20-1 7 places with Billy looks magic.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on September 14, 2019, 11:47:46 AM
I have only ever been to Donny once racing and i thought the place (for a group 1 track) was an absolute cesspit.    Was in hospitality for a stag do and the quality of food/drink service was bang average.   Never been back since and the card today for a classic is shocking.   Anyone else got any views on the gaff?

It is amazing the course still has a classic when you compare its facilities and the surroundings themselves with York.   Who the hell would choose to go to Donny over York for their respective big meetings?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 14, 2019, 01:57:37 PM
Unlucky Trigg, thought you had it for a while.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Juperjiper on September 14, 2019, 05:09:04 PM
Unlucky Trigg, thought you had it for a while.



I didn’t watch it. Only seen result but really? Lol
Finished 10th


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2019, 05:11:24 PM
Unlucky Trigg, thought you had it for a while.



I didn’t watch it. Only seen result but really? Lol
Finished 10th

He was talking about MoM

Nice one with Logician, Trigg!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2019, 05:14:37 PM
Be doing well to comment on a race 90 minutes before it happened :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RickBFA on September 14, 2019, 05:20:32 PM
I have only ever been to Donny once racing and i thought the place (for a group 1 track) was an absolute cesspit.    Was in hospitality for a stag do and the quality of food/drink service was bang average.   Never been back since and the card today for a classic is shocking.   Anyone else got any views on the gaff?

It is amazing the course still has a classic when you compare its facilities and the surroundings themselves with York.   Who the hell would choose to go to Donny over York for their respective big meetings?

I go to York around 5 times a season but only go to Donny once.

Donny isn’t a patch on York but the course facilities have improved over last few years.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Juperjiper on September 14, 2019, 05:37:38 PM
Lol I’m on 5 hour time difference didn’t see that, didn’t see the MoM bet either  ;booboo;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 14, 2019, 05:52:24 PM
Lol I’m on 5 hour time difference didn’t see that, didn’t see the MoM bet either  ;booboo;

Almost got me for a second, then I realised what you meant :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: peejaytwo on September 14, 2019, 11:19:50 PM
I have only ever been to Donny once racing and i thought the place (for a group 1 track) was an absolute cesspit.    Was in hospitality for a stag do and the quality of food/drink service was bang average.   Never been back since and the card today for a classic is shocking.   Anyone else got any views on the gaff?

It is amazing the course still has a classic when you compare its facilities and the surroundings themselves with York.   Who the hell would choose to go to Donny over York for their respective big meetings?

Bang average would sum it up, cards always poor for a Grade one track. Business poor all week according to one of the books I spoke to today, in two good picks as well. It's run by Arena though, they don't seem to get much right.
In the early 70's the first big charity meeting was held at Doncaster, soon migrated to York where it's been a great success ever since.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on September 14, 2019, 11:32:11 PM
I have only ever been to Donny once racing and i thought the place (for a group 1 track) was an absolute cesspit.    Was in hospitality for a stag do and the quality of food/drink service was bang average.   Never been back since and the card today for a classic is shocking.   Anyone else got any views on the gaff?

It is amazing the course still has a classic when you compare its facilities and the surroundings themselves with York.   Who the hell would choose to go to Donny over York for their respective big meetings?

Bang average would sum it up, cards always poor for a Grade one track. Business poor all week according to one of the books I spoke to today, in two good picks as well. It's run by Arena though, they don't seem to get much right.
In the early 70's the first big charity meeting was held at Doncaster, soon migrated to York where it's been a great success ever since.

Arenas business model is fine for most of their tracks.   Uttox a prime example.   I just don't think it works at a grade 1 track.   It seems one size fits all for arena and it clearly doesn't


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on September 15, 2019, 09:22:37 AM
Nice to see some activity on the thread. I thought Night Colours in the 2.35 at Ffos Las was worth a look at 12-1, sire stats strong 2nd time out and profitable trainer/ jockey combo , plus trainer going thru a bit of  a purple patch at the moment


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 15, 2019, 02:40:29 PM
Nice to see some activity on the thread. I thought Night Colours in the 2.35 at Ffos Las was worth a look at 12-1, sire stats strong 2nd time out and profitable trainer/ jockey combo , plus trainer going thru a bit of  a purple patch at the moment

OIOI!

Top bombing Simon and for my couple of quid @17.5  ;hattip;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 15, 2019, 02:48:39 PM

Great work Simon, thank you.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: engy on September 15, 2019, 03:30:39 PM
Top tipping Simon cheers, keep em coming


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 15, 2019, 04:02:44 PM
Fury owes me some loot, making me miss this :D

Nice one, Simon!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 15, 2019, 07:53:02 PM
Nice to see some activity on the thread. I thought Night Colours in the 2.35 at Ffos Las was worth a look at 12-1, sire stats strong 2nd time out and profitable trainer/ jockey combo , plus trainer going thru a bit of  a purple patch at the moment

Good hit sir. :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 16, 2019, 06:34:19 AM
Great shot that one. Missed it as was reffing our Fred’s under 8 game.

Been to donny at least 20 times it has the feel of a small track and I like going there.
Never going racing on a Saturday ever again and for a midweek meeting give me ripon, ponte or thirsk
Any day of the week.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 16, 2019, 10:09:29 AM

How good was this?


https://twitter.com/TheRacingJosh/status/1173245685396889604


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 16, 2019, 10:21:37 AM
Very good. Can see it winning the guinees but hope doesn’t go on
To the derby as I’m on mogul ew at 50/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on September 16, 2019, 10:23:15 AM

Yeah fine effort

Dewhurst will be a sound test, then see if he trains on as a 3 year old


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 16, 2019, 10:35:41 AM
Have you seen the replies?  It doesn't really matter if you are 19 or 70, there can't have been many performances like this in one of the biggest group ones whilst I have been around either.  Certainly not on fiirmish ground anyway?

Obvuiously Celtic Swing and Arazi are right up there, but neither of those really trained on, though Celtic Swing scraped home in the French Derby.   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 16, 2019, 10:52:27 AM
Have you seen the replies?  It doesn't really matter if you are 19 or 70, there can't have been many performances like this in one of the biggest group ones whilst I have been around either.  Certainly not on fiirmish ground anyway?

Obvuiously Celtic Swing and Arazi are right up there, but neither of those really trained on, though Celtic Swing scraped home in the French Derby.   

Yes, in some ways Twitter is as bad as Facebook these days, the lad got shredded. Seems a polite & well-mannered lad too. We live in strange times when folks go online on fora & Twitter just to diss others.

We have no idea how good the horse might be, or whether he will train on, but as 2-y-o performances go, that looked something very special. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 16, 2019, 11:00:41 AM
Stunning performance that.

This 'training on' nonsense only comes up occasionally thse days. It used to be the big thing when I was coming through. Poor old High Estate :(

Read somewhere this morning he could run about 7lb below that performance and still win an average Guineas. Barring injury etc, but let's hope he kicks on again and we get another Frankel. Appleby deserves it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 16, 2019, 05:24:44 PM
Have you seen the replies?  It doesn't really matter if you are 19 or 70, there can't have been many performances like this in one of the biggest group ones whilst I have been around either.  Certainly not on fiirmish ground anyway?

Obvuiously Celtic Swing and Arazi are right up there, but neither of those really trained on, though Celtic Swing scraped home in the French Derby.   

Yes, in some ways Twitter is as bad as Facebook these days, the lad got shredded. Seems a polite & well-mannered lad too. We live in strange times when folks go online on fora & Twitter just to diss others.

We have no idea how good the horse might be, or whether he will train on, but as 2-y-o performances go, that looked something very special. 

Twitter much worse than Facebook, from what I've seen.

Read a bit of it, and thought he handled the whiners pretty well the couple replies I saw.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 17, 2019, 08:57:11 AM

National Stakes: Pinatubo's win at the Curragh is rated best by a two-year-old since 1994


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/49720786




The only problem now is that the Media, especially on TV, will be giving it all the usual "Horse of the Century" non-stop nonsense until he gets beaten now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 17, 2019, 12:07:59 PM

National Stakes: Pinatubo's win at the Curragh is rated best by a two-year-old since 1994


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/49720786




The only problem now is that the Media, especially on TV, will be giving it all the usual "Horse of the Century" non-stop nonsense until he gets beaten now.

Surely they should be getting excited if it is the best 2 year old since 1994?  Hoping it is going to be like Frankel and improve at 3, and not like Celtic Swing who seemed to regress a little?

Hey Chompy, what is wrong with "training on", doesn't it just mean the horse improves from 2 to 3 and doesn't regress or stay at the same level?  And in that was nonsense, then what have weight for age scales?  I am genuinely confused as to why you find it nonsense.  Is there some controversy that has been rumbling on inside sporting life towere for the last 20 years?



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 17, 2019, 12:29:04 PM

National Stakes: Pinatubo's win at the Curragh is rated best by a two-year-old since 1994


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/49720786




The only problem now is that the Media, especially on TV, will be giving it all the usual "Horse of the Century" non-stop nonsense until he gets beaten now.

Surely they should be getting excited if it is the best 2 year old since 1994?  Hoping it is going to be like Frankel and improve at 3, and not like Celtic Swing who seemed to regress a little?

Hey Chompy, what is wrong with "training on", doesn't it just mean the horse improves from 2 to 3 and doesn't regress or stay at the same level?  And in that was nonsense, then what have weight for age scales?  I am genuinely confused as to why you find it nonsense.  Is there some controversy that has been rumbling on inside sporting life towere for the last 20 years?



Absolutely, yes, it's the over-hyping every time a good horse emerges that grates so. Soon, if he does not turn out to be the horse of the century, he'll be labelled a failure. ITV are the worst culprits by some distance, with Mr Chamberlain endlessly & breathlessly saying "is history about to be made?" 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on September 17, 2019, 12:55:08 PM
Nah, just a personal bugbear Doobs.

All horses improve from two to three. Physically it's impossible they wouldn't as they're still growing, it's just that the backward, late developers improve more than the more precocious juveniles.

The ones that tend to get labelled with not having trained on are those that achieve plenty at two and become hard to place. The likes of sales race winners or those that win a few novices and wind up rated in the mid 90s. Not good enough for Listed company and too high for handicaps.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 17, 2019, 01:15:05 PM

National Stakes: Pinatubo's win at the Curragh is rated best by a two-year-old since 1994


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/49720786




The only problem now is that the Media, especially on TV, will be giving it all the usual "Horse of the Century" non-stop nonsense until he gets beaten now.

Surely they should be getting excited if it is the best 2 year old since 1994?  Hoping it is going to be like Frankel and improve at 3, and not like Celtic Swing who seemed to regress a little?

Hey Chompy, what is wrong with "training on", doesn't it just mean the horse improves from 2 to 3 and doesn't regress or stay at the same level?  And in that was nonsense, then what have weight for age scales?  I am genuinely confused as to why you find it nonsense.  Is there some controversy that has been rumbling on inside sporting life towere for the last 20 years?



Absolutely, yes, it's the over-hyping every time a good horse emerges that grates so. Soon, if he does not turn out to be the horse of the century, he'll be labelled a failure. ITV are the worst culprits by some distance, with Mr Chamberlain endlessly & breathlessly saying "is history about to be made?" 

The problem is that this is clearly an exceptional performance, and not just a good one, as such it will be hard to overhype it.  They have to sell their product, so given an open goal, they aren't going to say hold on, his 3 year old career might be a bit disappointing.   

I don't know what you want people to say; when Celtic Swing won the French Derby from memory people were pleased enough.  But looking back, you can say that his 3 year old career was all a bit disappointing given his potential.  Same with Arazi.  I don't think anyone really says that their racing careers were a failure.  I don't know how many times I have watched that Arazi race in the Breeders Cup over the years.  Even now, when Chapman goes wild about a performance on ITV you can just set there and smugly go "yeah, but Arazi...".  To be fair, we all like to feel a bit smug sometimes.

Just watched Arazi again.   

Just remembered this horse of the century too.  He was so close to having an excellent 3 year old season, and the 4 year old one promised so much after this:

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiXbsSCdGLs

I can't remember his timeform rating after this, but it was pretty big, and don't envy them rating a horse after a one off early season race on the soft.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 17, 2019, 01:17:56 PM
Nah, just a personal bugbear Doobs.

All horses improve from two to three. Physically it's impossible they wouldn't as they're still growing, it's just that the backward, late developers improve more than the more precocious juveniles.

The ones that tend to get labelled with not having trained on are those that achieve plenty at two and become hard to place. The likes of sales race winners or those that win a few novices and wind up rated in the mid 90s. Not good enough for Listed company and too high for handicaps.

Ah get you, like 3 year old sprinters, guess a lot of three year old sprinters never trained on in the past.

This might become like Keith's momentum.  Every time I hear a commentator mention momentum I can hear Keith tutting in the background.  He is right to tut obv.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 18, 2019, 10:37:08 AM
I like Dubai elegance at 8/1 in the 1.40 yarmouth.
Doncaster win working out really well. Derek shaw only
Taken one down from Leicestershire. Looked unlucky last race
And still has potential off this mark having been rated much
Higher when with bin Suroor. I bet last night 12/1 ew (40p rule 4)
And now 8/1 only 2 places so my bet doesn’t look too clever
But have gone in again win only and saved on the Amy Murphy horse at 13/2


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: ripple11 on September 18, 2019, 12:57:30 PM
I like Dubai elegance at 8/1 in the 1.40 yarmouth.
Doncaster win working out really well. Derek shaw only
Taken one down from Leicestershire. Looked unlucky last race
And still has potential off this mark having been rated much
Higher when with bin Suroor. I bet last night 12/1 ew (40p rule 4)
And now 8/1 only 2 places so my bet doesn’t look too clever
But have gone in again win only and saved on the Amy Murphy horse at 13/2

Cheers,just had a look....14/1 now. Any reason why its gone out?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 18, 2019, 01:16:21 PM
Now 23 on betty!

Non-tryer?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on September 18, 2019, 01:33:03 PM
20/1 on the books 🙄


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 20, 2019, 05:03:59 PM

At Newbury this afternoon, this looked pretty handy too.



https://twitter.com/RacingTV/status/1175071644471255040


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 20, 2019, 07:24:25 PM
Frankel's turning out to be quite the sire.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 21, 2019, 02:53:06 PM
Adz, are you on Gunmetal in the Ayr Gold Cup?

I have gone for Arecibo, Gulliver and Angel Alexander at a big price. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 21, 2019, 03:55:50 PM
Adz, are you on Gunmetal in the Ayr Gold Cup?

I have gone for Arecibo, Gulliver and Angel Alexander at a big price. 

oh wow


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 21, 2019, 04:07:34 PM
Adz, are you on Gunmetal in the Ayr Gold Cup?

I have gone for Arecibo, Gulliver and Angel Alexander at a big price. 



 ;topman;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 21, 2019, 04:13:34 PM
Good shot Doobs, I was on Gulliver who flattered for a good while.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on September 21, 2019, 04:34:15 PM

wp doobs



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on September 21, 2019, 04:43:45 PM
cheers.  I couldn't quite believe it.  I thought 50/1 was a bit big, then looked again this afternoon and it had drifted to 66/1 and 80/90 on betfair.  Genuinely surprised when I saw it going so well at half way.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 21, 2019, 09:35:58 PM
Wow.

Was at the golf again today.

What a result and didnt have a penny on.

I was all about Summerghand.

Congrats


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 21, 2019, 10:55:07 PM
cheers.  I couldn't quite believe it.  I thought 50/1 was a bit big, then looked again this afternoon and it had drifted to 66/1 and 80/90 on betfair.  Genuinely surprised when I saw it going so well at half way.

Some going, that. Congrats!

Pay some of the $10k PLO8 ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 26, 2019, 03:04:37 PM
Rail at Newmarket looking golden today. I quite liked Monoski in the 3.35 and has the plum draw so looks a bit of value at 10/12-1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on September 26, 2019, 04:51:43 PM
Rail at Newmarket looking golden today. I quite liked Monoski in the 3.35 and has the plum draw so looks a bit of value at 10/12-1


Still cant read Jonno horses.......Winner v impressive.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: booder on September 27, 2019, 10:45:20 PM
Finished the shopping early and had ten minutes to kill before the bus home so popped into BetFred.

Decided to have a 50p each way patent on longest travellers.

1.50 Newmarket  Agincourt
2.50 Haydock     Mrs Merton
8.00 Newcastle  Brushwork

I also had £3 each way on Agincourt as it is the title of my favourite book.( by Bernard Cornwell , highly recommended.)

Mrs Merton didnt place but the other two did @ 12 s and 16/1

Tidy little profit , skill game innit.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Juperjiper on September 27, 2019, 11:10:14 PM
Finished the shopping early and had ten minutes to kill before the bus home so popped into BetFred.

Decided to have a 50p each way patent on longest travellers.

1.50 Newmarket  Agincourt
2.50 Haydock     Mrs Merton
8.00 Newcastle  Brushwork

I also had £3 each way on Agincourt as it is the title of my favourite book.( by Bernard Cornwell , highly recommended.)

Mrs Merton didnt place but the other two did @ 12 s and 16/1

Tidy little profit , skill game innit.

Cheers, I’ll copy and put them on too, gl us


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 27, 2019, 11:19:05 PM
Finished the shopping early and had ten minutes to kill before the bus home so popped into BetFred.

Decided to have a 50p each way patent on longest travellers.

1.50 Newmarket  Agincourt
2.50 Haydock     Mrs Merton
8.00 Newcastle  Brushwork

I also had £3 each way on Agincourt as it is the title of my favourite book.( by Bernard Cornwell , highly recommended.)

Mrs Merton didnt place but the other two did @ 12 s and 16/1

Tidy little profit , skill game innit.

Ha, nice one David, well done mate.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: booder on September 28, 2019, 12:32:29 AM
Finished the shopping early and had ten minutes to kill before the bus home so popped into BetFred.

Decided to have a 50p each way patent on longest travellers.

1.50 Newmarket  Agincourt
2.50 Haydock     Mrs Merton
8.00 Newcastle  Brushwork

I also had £3 each way on Agincourt as it is the title of my favourite book.( by Bernard Cornwell , highly recommended.)

Mrs Merton didnt place but the other two won @ 12 s and 16/1

Tidy little profit , skill game innit.

Edit


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 28, 2019, 10:11:02 AM
Finished the shopping early and had ten minutes to kill before the bus home so popped into BetFred.

Decided to have a 50p each way patent on longest travellers.

1.50 Newmarket  Agincourt
2.50 Haydock     Mrs Merton
8.00 Newcastle  Brushwork

I also had £3 each way on Agincourt as it is the title of my favourite book.( by Bernard Cornwell , highly recommended.)

Mrs Merton didnt place but the other two won @ 12 s and 16/1

Tidy little profit , skill game innit.

Edit

Cracking return boo. That's Christmas sorted.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 28, 2019, 01:25:23 PM
Anyone keen on anything in the Cambridgeshire today?

I had a couple of ew dabbles earlier in the week on Majestic Dawn and Jazeel both booosted @18/1 but only got 1/4 1-4.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on September 30, 2019, 10:15:09 AM
Anyone keen on anything in the Cambridgeshire today?

I had a couple of ew dabbles earlier in the week on Majestic Dawn and Jazeel both booosted @18/1 but only got 1/4 1-4.

I surprisingly got paid the place money(5th and 7th) after they went 1/5 1-7 on the day of the race.

I'd assumed I was tied to the place odds when I placed the bet - bank error in my favour?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on October 01, 2019, 03:41:58 PM
https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/towcester-set-for-closure-as-course-sells-fixtures-to-arena-racing-company/402223

Sad news if confirmed and true.   First track i ever went to years ago.   Not sure what it means for the dogs because the Henlow dog track owner was interested in leasing it for the dogs from next year.   Very difficult to operate a small track like that horse wise with 11 fixtures a year and cover the fixed costs.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on October 05, 2019, 01:25:38 PM
Any Ascot winners about. Real ale festival brought me here but need to finance the beer now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on October 05, 2019, 01:50:14 PM
Dakota gold. Top weight in a 5f handicap by grandad told me. Not sure about the draw tho izzit


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on October 05, 2019, 02:10:43 PM
Printing. More ale sir? Why not


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 05, 2019, 02:11:02 PM
Printing. More ale sir? Why not

:D

Money goes to money!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on October 05, 2019, 02:24:00 PM
Printing. More ale sir? Why not

:D

Money goes to money!

Haha 5-2. Minibus and beer paid for currently but I shall have more bets so plenty of room for  regrets. Can't see Faylaq not winning the next tbf


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on October 05, 2019, 02:40:24 PM
Wheels are off. More beer. Less racing


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on October 05, 2019, 02:49:19 PM
Casanova and Qaysar in the next.   Good e/w race


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 05, 2019, 02:58:27 PM
Wheels are off. More beer. Less racing

:D

Never a bad plan. Almost always works out best for me when I'm away.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 05, 2019, 02:59:47 PM
Pfft. You know those Saturday beer-drinking punters who think Listed races are handicaps but back the winner anyway?

Probably spilt his pint of 8% Old Cock down his denim jacket while riding a finish too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 05, 2019, 03:19:41 PM
Funniest moment of the day as dopey Gina asks Freddie Tylicki if he has walked the course today(he is in a wheelchair......).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on October 05, 2019, 03:34:47 PM
Pfft. You know those Saturday beer-drinking punters who think Listed races are handicaps but back the winner anyway?

Probably spilt his pint of 8% Old Cock down his denim jacket while riding a finish too.

Haha. Whatevs


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 05, 2019, 03:38:24 PM
Pfft. You know those Saturday beer-drinking punters who think Listed races are handicaps but back the winner anyway?

Probably spilt his pint of 8% Old Cock down his denim jacket while riding a finish too.


 ;D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on October 05, 2019, 03:49:52 PM
Stoop to aftertiming. Cape byron tho. Love a fav I do. Team curry later appaz. That's paid for then. Oi oi


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 05, 2019, 03:52:34 PM
Stoop to aftertiming. Cape byron tho. Love a fav I do. Team curry later appaz. That's paid for then. Oi oi

Chickn Tikka Dhansak, Pilau Rice, Garlic Naan, and Onion Bhajis.

Cheers  :)up


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 05, 2019, 03:52:38 PM
Not even topweight?

 ;bigadz;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on October 05, 2019, 03:59:11 PM
Next is trickier tbf. Probably will pick it but let you know after


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on October 05, 2019, 04:07:27 PM
Can't get past the fav. May have to drop bhajis from this evenings menu but obvs keep the dhansak


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: nirvana on October 05, 2019, 04:23:06 PM
May have a prosecco chaser


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 05, 2019, 04:46:25 PM
May have a prosecco chaser

Lookout London... Prosecco Henderson is on the rampage :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 06, 2019, 01:44:24 PM
I like Mabs Cross as a solid EW proposition in L'Abbaye and have dabbled @11/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on October 07, 2019, 06:42:30 AM
Met two interesting characters at dtd this week.
The head of Waverley racing (has all the good de lope de vega horses at Becketts)
And sheik fahad (Qatar racing).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 07, 2019, 08:51:05 AM
Met two interesting characters at dtd this week.
The head of Waverley racing (has all the good de lope de vega horses at Becketts)
And sheik fahad (Qatar racing).

The sheikh was probably looking to borrow a few quid off you mate.

Get on Addeyebb for the Champion stakes in two weeks. Can't see half the currently quoted field running and he will never go off 10s.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: action man on October 09, 2019, 06:47:45 AM
Had a few stabs in the first 3 races at Nottingham (only ones I could look through before the excellent capture on bbc1 concluded)

1.25. Passing nod ew 25/1
1.55 miss Latin 6/1
2.25 crossing the bar 11/1 (the Waverley guy at dtd told me to bet Annie de vega but loathed to at 2/1)

Crossing the bar has lots of good soft ground performers in the pedigree will want further in time
But if it becomes a slog on heavy then 11/1 could be a big price.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on October 09, 2019, 08:43:45 AM

Miss Latin N/R


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 12, 2019, 11:02:29 AM

Love Robert Cooper.

"That went well".


https://twitter.com/TonyMacRacing/status/1182741994587729920


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 13, 2019, 05:33:52 PM
Met two interesting characters at dtd this week.
The head of Waverley racing (has all the good de lope de vega horses at Becketts)
And sheik fahad (Qatar racing).

The sheikh was probably looking to borrow a few quid off you mate.

Get on Addeyebb for the Champion stakes in two weeks. Can't see half the currently quoted field running and he will never go off 10s.


Addeyebb as low as 11/4 but generally 4-1.

Still cant see the other market market leaders turning up, especially as rain due all week, which should suit A more.

Have had a little save on Deidrie at 10s


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on October 14, 2019, 08:04:23 AM
Met two interesting characters at dtd this week.
The head of Waverley racing (has all the good de lope de vega horses at Becketts)
And sheik fahad (Qatar racing).

The sheikh was probably looking to borrow a few quid off you mate.

Get on Addeyebb for the Champion stakes in two weeks. Can't see half the currently quoted field running and he will never go off 10s.


Into 4/1...Adzy knew


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on October 15, 2019, 08:10:40 AM

3/1 now and according to the bookies just the mighty Coolmore to worry about!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 15, 2019, 09:28:01 AM
Normally I am pretty quick in getting my bets on, but having loaded up 3 horses, I took a works call and never got a chance to enter the stakes.

No more than 4 minutes later, the prices have been chopped on all three.

Ever felt your account may be flagged?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 15, 2019, 09:16:14 PM

3/1 now and according to the bookies just the mighty Coolmore to worry about!


As low as 2-1 now with Billy.

Have traded out the half of the bet I placed to trade, so now freerolling a decent profit and a small profit already banked even if they do switch tracks, which I think would be pretty filthy if they do.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 16, 2019, 12:30:42 PM
Inner track confirmed.

Amazing. Listen is 50 today. Time flies. No plans yet. He'll see where the lads want to go.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on October 18, 2019, 09:24:25 PM

Addeybb drifting 6/1 now

Must be this Indian summer!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on October 18, 2019, 09:52:32 PM

Addeybb drifting 6/1 now

Must be this Indian summer!

Always going to happen when they switched the course.

Great shout, and did exactly as predicted. Unfortunate they didn't play ball.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 18, 2019, 10:49:42 PM

Addeybb drifting 6/1 now

Must be this Indian summer!

All pretty shitty really. If the other course was totally unraceable fair enough, but I v much doubt it.

The perils of ante post betting.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 19, 2019, 11:22:17 AM
33/1 looks a massive price for Mabs Cross in Ascot's curtain-raiser today.

Ran decently in L'Abbeye after a slow start finishing 5th, acts on soft and looks like 6F suits her better these days.

Talked myself into an EW dabble at a booosted 35/1(for ice-creams only) with ladyboys.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 19, 2019, 12:29:34 PM
Don't often back twighoppers but very keen on Never Be Enough 4.05 Stratford. Strong traveller who'll love this place and could make a case for him being a stone well in off this mark.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 19, 2019, 04:08:47 PM
Don't often back twighoppers but very keen on Never Be Enough 4.05 Stratford. Strong traveller who'll love this place and could make a case for him being a stone well in off this mark.

Drifting like the kon-tiki..


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 19, 2019, 04:21:50 PM
Went well. Back into hibernation.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 19, 2019, 05:58:40 PM
Don't often back twighoppers but very keen on Never Be Enough 4.05 Stratford. Strong traveller who'll love this place and could make a case for him being a stone well in off this mark.

Drifting like the kon-tiki..

Thanks expert.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 19, 2019, 06:23:43 PM
Hmm.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 19, 2019, 06:36:47 PM
Hmm.

Lol, you are a very strange character.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 19, 2019, 06:52:24 PM
Meanwhile, you come across really well online.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: BigAdz on October 19, 2019, 10:25:25 PM
Like I worry about your opinion. Lol.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on October 20, 2019, 11:08:25 AM

Anyway,  good shout with Addeybb Adz

Close but ew money secured a return


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on October 20, 2019, 11:16:29 AM



(http://i.imgur.com/bflp7Q5.png) (https://imgur.com/bflp7Q5)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 22, 2019, 06:12:44 PM
Lovely EW spot for hardcore pros in the 5.55 Wolves tomorrow.

Seems very unlikely Finespun starts odds-on and very unlikely Orchidia starts above the current best 2-1. 1.4 a place the latter is golden in a field full of trees. Quite possible we go off favourite too.

Bet responsibly though and only gamble what you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 22, 2019, 06:16:54 PM
cheers Chomps

and good advice in general there

the above bet may result in the closure of all of your online accounts for the non-aware reading sir chomps


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: typhoon13 on October 23, 2019, 06:56:40 PM
Lovely EW spot for hardcore pros in the 5.55 Wolves tomorrow.

Seems very unlikely Finespun starts odds-on and very unlikely Orchidia starts above the current best 2-1. 1.4 a place the latter is golden in a field full of trees. Quite possible we go off favourite too.

Bet responsibly though and only gamble what you can afford to lose.

Well that couldn't of been called much better, well done


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Juperjiper on October 23, 2019, 07:15:22 PM
Lovely EW spot for hardcore pros in the 5.55 Wolves tomorrow.

Seems very unlikely Finespun starts odds-on and very unlikely Orchidia starts above the current best 2-1. 1.4 a place the latter is golden in a field full of trees. Quite possible we go off favourite too.

Bet responsibly though and only gamble what you can afford to lose.

Thanks expert


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on October 23, 2019, 10:37:54 PM
:)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: HutchGF on October 24, 2019, 12:07:21 PM
Complete and utter horse racing ice cream here.

On a lads weekend away that will be taking in Newcastle races tomorrow evening.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Juperjiper on October 24, 2019, 12:22:27 PM
Complete and utter horse racing ice cream here.

On a lads weekend away that will be taking in Newcastle races tomorrow evening.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Go to the black garter, followed by powerhouse


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on October 25, 2019, 12:21:04 PM
Complete and utter horse racing ice cream here.

On a lads weekend away that will be taking in Newcastle races tomorrow evening.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Had a look at Tulip Fields in the 6:00 last night. It was 2/1 whilst the Fav was Tadreej at a short price. Looking again, both have drifted in the face of strong support for Gosden’s Maria Rose. I feel this now makes the Johnston horse a decent e/w bet at the 6/1 currently available: has been in the frame (never more than 3L behind the winner) in all its 4 races, and if Fanning can get the fillie a little more settled early in the race, she has a good chance at the price.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: horseplayer on October 26, 2019, 04:38:44 PM
Lovely EW spot for hardcore pros in the 5.55 Wolves tomorrow.

Seems very unlikely Finespun starts odds-on and very unlikely Orchidia starts above the current best 2-1. 1.4 a place the latter is golden in a field full of trees. Quite possible we go off favourite too.

Bet responsibly though and only gamble what you can afford to lose.

great call sir chomps as ever


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 26, 2019, 05:16:34 PM
Nice to see Slate House win in emphatic style after all those wind ops.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 03, 2019, 08:35:33 PM
8/1 looks generous enough about Sceau Royal in Saturday's Tingle Creek.

Ground, trip and track all promise to be taylor-made.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2019, 12:48:12 PM
Just got matched @11.5 on SR - I'm clearly the only one that fancies it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 07, 2019, 01:07:50 PM
Muggy L15 for an interest

13:50 - Nube Negra
14:25 - Malaya
15:00 - Un De Sceaux
15:35 - Classic Ben


Hardly looked at racing this year, and think my AP portfolio for March is <50pts!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 07, 2019, 04:40:04 PM
My best result of the day was the 3.35pm at Sandown being voided :(


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 07, 2019, 05:58:57 PM
My best result of the day was the 3.35pm at Sandown being voided :(

Only did that lucky 15, so was the same here. Got my quid back :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 08, 2019, 12:15:49 PM
I've flung one speculative point at Slate House @50/1 in the RSA.

Hopefully he sparkles in his debut over 3M today.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: booder on December 26, 2019, 09:05:58 AM
Anything on the Boxing Day cards worth backing  guys ?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2019, 09:44:31 AM
Watching, plenty. I'm not really getting involved in anything today, though.

KG should be great with LiT & Cyrname.

LiT is one of the few antepost bets I've got for Cheltenham.

Laurina taking on Fakir in the 14:20 @ Leops.

I've done a Linfoot lucky 15 for an interest, as I've not even looked at a race for weeks.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2019, 10:38:50 AM
Watching, plenty. I'm not really getting involved in anything today, though.

KG should be great with LiT & Cyrname.

LiT is one of the few antepost bets I've got for Cheltenham.

Laurina taking on Fakir in the 14:20 @ Leops.

I've done a Linfoot lucky 15 for an interest, as I've not even looked at a race for weeks.

You'll be retiring to a life of luxury if you get that lucky15 up today Marky.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2019, 10:55:52 AM
Watching, plenty. I'm not really getting involved in anything today, though.

KG should be great with LiT & Cyrname.

LiT is one of the few antepost bets I've got for Cheltenham.

Laurina taking on Fakir in the 14:20 @ Leops.

I've done a Linfoot lucky 15 for an interest, as I've not even looked at a race for weeks.

You'll be retiring to a life of luxury if you get that lucky15 up today Marky.

Ha!

Will just about cover last 2 weeks in Vegas, so I'll still be working tomorrow whatever happens:D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2019, 11:31:35 AM
Getaway Trump drifting like it's missing a leg - currently 18 with betty.

I quite fancy Footpad to outrun it's price in the KG - it really galloped to the line lto over 2m6f.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2019, 12:32:39 PM
I fancy it to come 4th.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 26, 2019, 12:43:13 PM
For those betting in the King George, it's been raining quite steadily for the last few hours, & it's rained most of the week too.

Thistlecrack now a NR.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2019, 02:03:39 PM
My 50/1 for the RSA looking a fair bit healthier now :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2019, 02:49:48 PM
My 50/1 for the RSA looking a fair bit healthier now :)

Get on the machine and get your stake back at least ;)

Faugheen rolling back the years as well, lol.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 26, 2019, 03:18:13 PM
My 50/1 for the RSA looking a fair bit healthier now :)

Get on the machine and get your stake back at least ;)

Faugheen rolling back the years as well, lol.

Faugheen was magnificent.

I got my stake back today @ 7/2 :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on December 26, 2019, 03:50:26 PM
My 50/1 for the RSA looking a fair bit healthier now :)

Get on the machine and get your stake back at least ;)

Faugheen rolling back the years as well, lol.

Faugheen was magnificent.

I got my stake back today @ 7/2 :)

Nice one :D


If Slate House wins the RSA, I'll go without curry for a month!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 24, 2020, 06:35:52 PM
My 50/1 for the RSA looking a fair bit healthier now :)

Get on the machine and get your stake back at least ;)

Faugheen rolling back the years as well, lol.

Faugheen was magnificent.

I got my stake back today @ 7/2 :)

Nice one :D


If Slate House wins the RSA, I'll go without curry for a month!

Fair bit of cash on SH out of novice company in the Cotswold 'Chase tomorrow - I reckon TomS must have put him up.

Imagine if he wins tomorrow and goes for the GC instead :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on January 24, 2020, 08:34:07 PM
May be a possibility I will have a month with no curry to look forward to come March.

Still can't see him beating the Irish mob.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 02, 2020, 11:31:03 PM
Great win by Faugheen today but none of them impressed me as wanting to race over further.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 03, 2020, 01:14:25 AM
Runner up, maybe.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 08, 2020, 05:16:32 PM
Slowly building a modest Cheltenham portfolio.

Slate House(RSA) 1pt @50/1
Epatante(CH) 4pts @4/1
Global Citizen (Arkle) 2pts @16/1


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 08, 2020, 06:38:25 PM
I'd been calling mine small, but don't feel quite that way now, lol.

I'll try and chuck my positions (live and dead) up next week if I'm a bit quieter.

Was balls deep in Pic D'Orhy for the triumph last season, and didn't even have a free bet on him today  ;grr;


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on February 08, 2020, 07:15:58 PM
I'd been calling mine small, but don't feel quite that way now, lol.

I'll try and chuck my positions (live and dead) up next week if I'm a bit quieter.

Was balls deep in Pic D'Orhy for the triumph last season, and didn't even have a free bet on him today  ;grr;

I had a small interest bet on the other Nicholls horse Ecco in that - PD'O was 110 betty SP too


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 08, 2020, 07:37:48 PM
I'd been calling mine small, but don't feel quite that way now, lol.

I'll try and chuck my positions (live and dead) up next week if I'm a bit quieter.

Was balls deep in Pic D'Orhy for the triumph last season, and didn't even have a free bet on him today  ;grr;

I had a small interest bet on the other Nicholls horse Ecco in that - PD'O was 110 betty SP too

Yeah, someone said that. Painful.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Ironside on May 31, 2020, 09:02:25 PM
what channel is the racing on tomorrow? and any tips? any stables in form?(joke)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 31, 2020, 10:07:05 PM
No idea.

Don't bet on anything tomorrow would be mine :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on June 01, 2020, 12:30:02 PM
It’s on Sky

ITV 7 free-roll

1.00 Heavenly Tale
1.35 Mutasaamy
2.10 Little Red Socks
2.45 Magical Journey
3.20 Tricky Dicky
3.55 Written Broadcast
4.30 Be Proud

One from my notebook
1.00 Deauville - Forever Coco
Given way too much to do last time out with a claimer on top, and still very unlucky not to win despite trouble threading through the pack.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: scotty2hatty on June 01, 2020, 12:42:27 PM
"First sport back..."


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on June 01, 2020, 12:44:27 PM
what channel is the racing on tomorrow? and any tips? any stables in form?(joke)

I know it was a joke but the first angle I’ll be looking for will be evidence of who has their horses fittest. There’ll be a wide range between the stables for who has them ready to go and who doesn’t. Also worth double checking the stables that regularly get them ready first up.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 01, 2020, 08:20:01 PM
Just follow MLT on Twitter - easy game :)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on June 06, 2020, 05:06:41 PM
what channel is the racing on tomorrow? and any tips? any stables in form?(joke)

I know it was a joke but the first angle I’ll be looking for will be evidence of who has their horses fittest. There’ll be a wide range between the stables for who has them ready to go and who doesn’t. Also worth double checking the stables that regularly get them ready first up.

Annoyed at myself for writing this, then seeing this:  https://twitter.com/rowleyfilerrr/status/1268641289073053703?s=21 (https://twitter.com/rowleyfilerrr/status/1268641289073053703?s=21) and then going down a completely different route, including ignoring some excellent judges along the way.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on June 18, 2020, 10:02:22 AM
Maybe everyone knows this already, but went searching for the going today at Ascot and discovered Asoct's offical website has put up a ton of info.

https://www.ascot.co.uk/thegoing (https://www.ascot.co.uk/thegoing)

The going was good to soft a couple of hours ago and you can see from the going stick that it is going to be pretty soft in patches on he round course.  I think it is still raining, though can't be sure.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on June 18, 2020, 12:01:08 PM
Going at Ascot officially changed to Soft. No surprise, really, it’s been a steady rain for the last 12 hours. I’ll be looking for some big-priced value bets especially in the later races when the ground may have cut up quite a bit.

I had Finest Sound (4.10) in my tracker, and African Dream (4.40) looked like a very good thing, and even though the price is drifting on the latter, I think they’re both far too short (5-2 & 2-1) to be backed in these conditions & fields.

The only bet I’ve decided on is Cross Counter (6-1, 1/4 2pl w/o Stradivarius) in the Gold Cup


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on June 18, 2020, 12:41:44 PM
Going at Ascot officially changed to Soft. No surprise, really, it’s been a steady rain for the last 12 hours. I’ll be looking for some big-priced value bets especially in the later races when the ground may have cut up quite a bit.

I had Finest Sound (4.10) in my tracker, and African Dream (4.40) looked like a very good thing, and even though the price is drifting on the latter, I think they’re both far too short (5-2 & 2-1) to be backed in these conditions & fields.

The only bet I’ve decided on is Cross Counter (6-1, 1/4 2pl w/o Stradivarius) in the Gold Cup

Seems to me they really think African Dream is a good thing, the ground has to be a concern (Oasis Dream/Acclamation). Stradivarius is interesting on this supposedly unsuitable ground, every chance he goes off at a backable price and I think his form still stacks up well enough on this type of surface.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on June 18, 2020, 12:42:58 PM
Quite like Gallaside in the first.  Has form on soft.  50/1 fifth first 4 or 40/1 fifth first 5 must be good for those that can.  I have managed less than £15 e/w over my accounts.   It has a strange comment about it not getting home over 10f last season which might put people off. Giveb it was only 2, and very few 2 year olds try 10 furlongs, I think we can ignore it.  

edit.  I just checked betfair and got 70/1 and 10/1 first 4 for those resricted, though it is good for those unrestricted too!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on July 02, 2020, 10:59:30 AM

What do we think of the Derby draw? Favourite in 1 and at least murmurings that it’s not ideal but hard (for me) to see why it’s a bad thing. Thoughts Chompy/Doobs? It looks to me like one of the years where the ‘Listen’ battalions will make it a really strong pace.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on July 31, 2020, 05:48:27 PM
Goodwood 2.15 - Bonhams Thoroughbred Stakes

Whilst I recognise that the winning distance was officially 1.5L, and the stewards are minded to overturn results only when the winning distance is less than .25L, surely they have discretion to take account of the severity of interference?

Yes, of course my money was on My Oberon, and it’s my pocket doing half the talking whilst I can’t say with a straight face that it would have definitely won without the interference, but when you see the head-on view you can’t discount the probability that it cost the horse a good 2+ lengths.

Does anyone on here know the absolute rules the stewards work to?

Whinge over, but I’d appreciate a reply or two


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: jakally on July 31, 2020, 06:43:04 PM
Goodwood 2.15 - Bonhams Thoroughbred Stakes

Whilst I recognise that the winning distance was officially 1.5L, and the stewards are minded to overturn results only when the winning distance is less than .25L, surely they have discretion to take account of the severity of interference?

Yes, of course my money was on My Oberon, and it’s my pocket doing half the talking whilst I can’t say with a straight face that it would have definitely won without the interference, but when you see the head-on view you can’t discount the probability that it cost the horse a good 2+ lengths.

Does anyone on here know the absolute rules the stewards work to?

Whinge over, but I’d appreciate a reply or two

I would probably feel similarly aggrieved but having watched it I dont believe My Oberon ever wins if they both get a free run.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: simonnatur on August 07, 2020, 09:27:01 AM
6.20 Wolv. En Famille 9/2  - hoping to show improved performance on surface for which some encouragement from sire stats, trainer also has very good stats with visor (from a small sample)

2.55 Sandown small e/w bets on Delicate Kiss and Casement  16 and 22/1 currently


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bagel on August 07, 2020, 02:42:26 PM
6.20 Wolv. En Famille 9/2  - hoping to show improved performance on surface for which some encouragement from sire stats, trainer also has very good stats with visor (from a small sample)

2.55 Sandown small e/w bets on Delicate Kiss and Casement  16 and 22/1 currently

had a little dabble at 22 and 30

fingers crossed and thanks for posting


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bagel on August 07, 2020, 03:25:26 PM
great shout

all abourd the 6.20 express to wolverhampton


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: bagel on August 07, 2020, 07:48:51 PM
cheers, a wins a win however small

gone all in on city to draw at 4 to 1

hopefully get a curry out of it


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 29, 2020, 04:51:45 PM
Bravemansgame really impressed me today - helped myself to some stale 15/2 for the Ballymore in March which will hopefully take place.

It looked like it would have happily gone round again.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2021, 08:56:16 AM

As excuses go, Gordon Elliott's story is not very convincing.



"The photo in question was taken some time ago and occurred after a horse had died of an apparent heart attack on the gallops.

"At what was a sad time, which it is when any horse under my care passes away, my initial reaction was to get the body removed from where it was positioned.

"I was standing over the horse waiting to help with the removal of the body, in the course of which, to my memory I received a call and, without thinking, I sat down to take it. Hearing a shout from one of my team, I gestured to wait until I was finished.




(https://i.imgur.com/u4PZRhW.jpg)




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 01, 2021, 09:16:26 AM
I hadn't seen that photo until now, and had only read the story.  What was he thinking? Even if the ludicrous explanation for the gesture turns out to be true, why would you sit on a dead animal?  Any dead animal, and not just one you were supposed to be looking after.

Why do they always say this was some time ago, like he wasn't a fully grown man with grey hair at the time?

Got to be bad for the whole sport and not just him?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2021, 09:21:42 AM

None of it makes any sense. It'll be career-defining for Gordon, he's got some serious heat incoming.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on March 01, 2021, 09:56:31 AM
Have betfair dropped him yet as an sponsor?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2021, 10:00:39 AM
Have betfair dropped him yet as an sponsor?

I'd be extremely surprised if they don't.

I also think the Horse Racing authorities will take a very dim view of it, though I'm not aware of what sanctions or penalties they have in their armoury for cases like this.

The whole thing is almost a Gerald Ratner moment.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2021, 10:03:29 AM
Have betfair dropped him yet as an sponsor?

Seems they have, yes;



https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14194735/gordon-elliott-axed-betfair-photo-horse/



A Betfair spokesperson commented: "While we recognise that Gordon Elliott deeply regrets and apologised unreservedly for his poor judgement, his actions are completely at odds with the values of the Betfair brand and that of our employees.


"With that in mind, we have decided to discontinue our association with Gordon with immediate effect."



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 01, 2021, 12:19:18 PM
It is causing carnage in the antepost markets.   Just looked at the  Marsh Novices (Envoi Allen race) and a lot of halved in price.   Was right looking forward to Cheltenham.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2021, 12:26:57 PM
It is causing carnage in the antepost markets.   Just looked at the  Marsh Novices (Envoi Allen race) and a lot of halved in price.   Was right looking forward to Cheltenham.

Why? The threat he may face some sort of ban & so his horses won't be at Cheltenham?

Would not be surprised if Envoi Allen, trained by Elliott, is removed from the yard, as it's owned by Cheveley Park Stud I believe.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2021, 12:53:50 PM

O'Leary, ever the reasoned gentleman, is standing by Elliott.



https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/we-all-want-mistakes-leading-owners-gigginstown-stand-by-gordon-elliott/475729


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 01, 2021, 01:31:39 PM
It is causing carnage in the antepost markets.   Just looked at the  Marsh Novices (Envoi Allen race) and a lot of halved in price.   Was right looking forward to Cheltenham.

Why? The threat he may face some sort of ban & so his horses won't be at Cheltenham?

Would not be surprised if Envoi Allen, trained by Elliott, is removed from the yard, as it's owned by Cheveley Park Stud I believe.

If it was some random trainer with 15 winners a season and the photo appeared in summer you'd expect a short term ban, at the least.  So that should be what happens here?

I don't think it will, but if you are on a 12/1 chance in the Marsh, your horse should be 6/1 if the ban happens. 

Take Energumene as an example.  It is going for the Arkle, but you could get 6/1 NRNB for the Marsh.  Only way that happens is if Envoi Allen doesn't show.  It is now 5/2. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2021, 01:33:54 PM
It is causing carnage in the antepost markets.   Just looked at the  Marsh Novices (Envoi Allen race) and a lot of halved in price.   Was right looking forward to Cheltenham.

Why? The threat he may face some sort of ban & so his horses won't be at Cheltenham?

Would not be surprised if Envoi Allen, trained by Elliott, is removed from the yard, as it's owned by Cheveley Park Stud I believe.

If it was some random trainer with 15 winners a season and the photo appeared in summer you'd expect a short term ban, at the least.  So that should be what happens here?

I don't think it will, but if you are on a 12/1 chance in the Marsh, your horse should be 6/1 if the ban happens. 

Take Energumene as an example.  It is going for the Arkle, but you could get 6/1 NRNB for the Marsh.  Only way that happens is if Envoi Allen doesn't show.  It is now 5/2. 


A ban on his horses would be awfully harsh on the Owners.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 01, 2021, 02:10:37 PM
Whacking great fine, and some work with a hore racing charity, I'd imagine.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2021, 07:45:04 PM


 "The British Horseracing Authority (BHA) will not allow the Irish trainer Gordon Elliott to race horses in Britain whilst the Irish authorities investigate an image that appeared on social media over the weekend.

"The trainer admitted the photo was genuine and apologised for his actions.

"The BHA, which regulates racing in Britain, will use powers under its own rules to refuse to allow horses trained by Mr Elliott to race in Britain pending consideration of the outcome of the Irish investigation.

"The action taken by the BHA recognises that Mr Elliott is licensed in Ireland, whose regulatory body, the IHRB, is carrying out its own investigation.

"However, Mr Elliott has entered horses to race in Britain, from which point the British Rules of Racing apply to him.

"The decision to refuse to allow horses trained by Mr Elliott to run in Britain is therefore an interim decision which the BHA regards as proportionate in these circumstances."


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 01, 2021, 07:51:55 PM
Imagine they'll either have the investigation tied up this week, or transfer all horses to assistant before the festival, as I imagine they can run then?

I know Joseph had trained Ivanovitch Gorbatov, but due to age/time it was under Aidan's name.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 01, 2021, 07:57:29 PM

Yes, I think the decision will come quickly, & the horses will still run but for a different trainer, either at Elliott's yard or elsewhere.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 01, 2021, 08:26:46 PM

Yes, I think the decision will come quickly, & the horses will still run but for a different trainer, either at Elliott's yard or elsewhere.

Four of the 5 most popular horse racing bets listed on oddschecker are in the Marsh against Envoi Allen.

If the Irish don't move quickly they might not be able to move?  And even if they can move, will O'Leary stick with his man (he had that big falling out with Mullins?).  Presumably shifting a load of horses a week before Cheltenham isn't the best prep and won't the best yards be at near capacity? 

It any horse was going to move first it would be Envoi Allen, but can't see how the majority get shifted at short notice.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RED-DOG on March 01, 2021, 08:35:50 PM
Far be it from me to leap to the defence of this bloke, but people do need to get a grip. ( IMO of course)

He hasn't committed some heinous crime, he's been a bit silly several years ago.

Let he who is without sin and all that.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2021, 08:50:05 AM
Far be it from me to leap to the defence of this bloke, but people do need to get a grip. ( IMO of course)

He hasn't committed some heinous crime, he's been a bit silly several years ago.

Let he who is without sin and all that.

He cannot go unpunished Tom. He's a senior trainer & that's completely inappropriate behaviour.

Asked about it over the weekend at Punchestown he denied it had ever happened. By Monday the story had changed to this;


"I was standing over the horse waiting to help with the removal of the body, in the course of which, to my memory I received a call and, without thinking, I sat down to take it. Hearing a shout from one of my team, I gestured to wait until I was finished."

Nobody was ever going to buy that bollox.

It was only around 18 months ago, it's not like it was 10 years back.

We need to keep a sense of perspective, yes, & I'm all for live & let live, but he deserves to be fined or have a short training ban. (IMO of course).


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on March 02, 2021, 08:54:44 AM
If that story is bollox what do we actually think happened?





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on March 02, 2021, 08:58:16 AM
Apart from what Tony has said, his incredibly tasteless & callous indiscretion has handed the anti-racers a very strong argument for their case on a plate. How can racing say “we only have the animals’ best interests at heart” with a straight face when there’s images like this?

Elliot must know exactly who took this picture - and it must be one very disgruntled ex-employee...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: TiredEyes on March 02, 2021, 08:59:58 AM
That is pretty shocking !

There's also a level of stupidity in thinking it was ok to photograph and post the incident on social media too, especially from someone who is supposed to be an animal lover, I mean I'm also an animal lover (I think they're delicious) but even I wouldn't have a posed for a photo with a dead animal.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on March 02, 2021, 09:01:56 AM
Apart from what Tony has said, his incredibly tasteless & callous indiscretion has handed the anti-racers a very strong argument for their case on a plate. How can racing say “we only have the animals’ best interests at heart” with a straight face when there’s images like this?

Elliot must know exactly who took this picture - and it must be one very disgruntled ex-employee...

The horse is dead, it longer has any interests?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2021, 09:02:51 AM
If that story is bollox what do we actually think happened?





No idea, but I'm struggling to buy

"...I received a call and, without thinking, I sat down to take it..."


As in, "I received a call and, without thinking, I sat down on a dead horse to take it".


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2021, 09:04:33 AM
Apart from what Tony has said, his incredibly tasteless & callous indiscretion has handed the anti-racers a very strong argument for their case on a plate. How can racing say “we only have the animals’ best interests at heart” with a straight face when there’s images like this?

Elliot must know exactly who took this picture - and it must be one very disgruntled ex-employee...

Well this is where it gets murky - rumour is it was a scorned ex-lady friend.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on March 02, 2021, 09:14:16 AM
Apart from what Tony has said, his incredibly tasteless & callous indiscretion has handed the anti-racers a very strong argument for their case on a plate. How can racing say “we only have the animals’ best interests at heart” with a straight face when there’s images like this?

Elliot must know exactly who took this picture - and it must be one very disgruntled ex-employee...

Well this is where it gets murky - rumour is it was a scorned ex-lady friend.

That actually makes more sense


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RED-DOG on March 02, 2021, 09:15:25 AM
His explanation is obviously bollocks and I agree that it shouldn't go totally unpunished but we seem to live in a world where the slightest lapse in judgement can end someone's career and everyone seems fine with it.

It's the hypocrisy that gets me. Have a look at the MP's expenses scandal for instance. Were any of them ever banned from working?

Full disclosure. I've sat on a dead horse, and I once chased my brother with a calf's tail that came off in my hand while we were helping to move the corpse. That doesn't make me a bad person.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2021, 09:23:58 AM
His explanation is obviously bollocks and I agree that it shouldn't go totally unpunished but we seem to live in a world where the slightest lapse in judgement can end someone's career and everyone seems fine with it.

It's the hypocrisy that gets me. Have a look at the MP's expenses scandal for instance. Were any of them ever banned from working?

Full disclosure. I've sat on a dead horse, and I once chased my brother with a calf's tail that came off in my hand while we were helping to move the corpse. That doesn't make me a bad person.


You are not one of the leading NH racehorse trainers though Tom.

Imagine if the horse had died during a race, & whilst awaiting the knacker van the jockey casually sat on the prostrate horse. There'd be uproar.

MP's expenses scandal, were any banned from working? Well a single search on google revealed at least 5 who were sent to Prison, & so effectively banned from working.


https://www.channel4.com/news/out-of-order-politicians-who-ended-up-behind-bars




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2021, 09:26:06 AM
His explanation is obviously bollocks and I agree that it shouldn't go totally unpunished but we seem to live in a world where the slightest lapse in judgement can end someone's career and everyone seems fine with it.

It's the hypocrisy that gets me. Have a look at the MP's expenses scandal for instance. Were any of them ever banned from working?

Full disclosure. I've sat on a dead horse, and I once chased my brother with a calf's tail that came off in my hand while we were helping to move the corpse. That doesn't make me a bad person.

We agree there. It was bullshit, & he should get punished. I certainly have not suggested he should be banned full time. A fine, a 3 month or whatever ban, job done.

It's definitely a Gerald Ratner moment for him though.   


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on March 02, 2021, 09:30:04 AM
Got what he had coming imo. Plenty more where this came from. His missus (allegedly) released the photo after catching him giving a stablegirl one.

https://twitter.com/d_gilly6/status/1366321644629860355

Then there's this.

https://twitter.com/rantz_i/status/1366625007401652225?s=24


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RED-DOG on March 02, 2021, 09:44:56 AM
OK. Fuck him then.

Next....


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: RED-DOG on March 02, 2021, 09:46:55 AM
OK. Fuck him then.

Next....


I wish I had added "and the horse he rode in on" but it's too late now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2021, 09:52:11 AM
OK. Fuck him then.

Next....


I wish I had added "and the horse he rode in on" but it's too late now.

Now that would have won the internet.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on March 02, 2021, 10:29:07 AM
Doesn't take them long does it!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2021, 10:31:04 AM

;)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 02, 2021, 11:18:16 AM
Michael O'Leary has withdrawn Tiger Roll from the Grand National because of an unfair weight.  Nice bit of timing, but the weight claim seems a bit dubious? 

Anywhere else the weight might look a bit high, but given his National record, it never looked massively unreasonable? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2021, 11:25:23 AM
Michael O'Leary has withdrawn Tiger Roll from the Grand National because of an unfair weight.  Nice bit of timing, but the weight claim seems a bit dubious? 

Anywhere else the weight might look a bit high, but given his National record, it never looked massively unreasonable? 


I believe he was grumbling about the allotted GN weight a few weeks ago to be fair.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on March 02, 2021, 11:29:47 AM
https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/tiger-roll-withdrawn-from-national/189720

Suddenly the allocated weight was too much.   Wonder why it wasn't such an issue when the weights were first announced? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2021, 11:35:59 AM
https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/tiger-roll-withdrawn-from-national/189720

Suddenly the allocated weight was too much.   Wonder why it wasn't such an issue when the weights were first announced? 


They did have a bit of a grumble at the time. This was 11th February, just after the weights were announced;



https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/feb/11/talking-horses-tiger-roll-grand-national-horse-racing


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on March 02, 2021, 11:41:14 AM
I seem to remember him grumbling before the weights even came out.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on March 02, 2021, 11:43:58 AM
Sure but the weight hasn't changed he made a statement that he wanted to be rated in the 150s.  He wasn't rated anywhere close to that so why not make the withdrawl straight away as the horse would be carrying over half a stone more than he wanted.  All very convenient to blame the handicapper now it seems.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2021, 11:44:45 AM
Sure but the weight hasn't changed he made a statement that he wanted to be rated in the 150s.  He wasn't rated anywhere close to that so why not make the withdrawl straight away as the horse would be carrying over half a stone more than he wanted.  All very convenient to blame the handicapper now it seems.

Ahh yes, fair comment.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 02, 2021, 12:33:00 PM
Sure but the weight hasn't changed he made a statement that he wanted to be rated in the 150s.  He wasn't rated anywhere close to that so why not make the withdrawl straight away as the horse would be carrying over half a stone more than he wanted.  All very convenient to blame the handicapper now it seems.

Ahh yes, fair comment.

and it is pretty dubious.  He ran to that mark in the Grand National in 2019 and wasn't far off in the Cross Country last year.  He has run once over big fences since then, so there is little evidence for a drop in weights, never mind one as big as he wanted.   Just O'Leary behaving like O'Leary.  He couldn't run anyway as things stand right now.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2021, 12:36:29 PM
Sure but the weight hasn't changed he made a statement that he wanted to be rated in the 150s.  He wasn't rated anywhere close to that so why not make the withdrawl straight away as the horse would be carrying over half a stone more than he wanted.  All very convenient to blame the handicapper now it seems.

Ahh yes, fair comment.

and it is pretty dubious.  He ran to that mark in the Grand National in 2019 and wasn't far off in the Cross Country last year.  He has run once over big fences since then, so there is little evidence for a drop in weights, never mind one as big as he wanted.   Just O'Leary behaving like O'Leary.  He couldn't run anyway as things stand right now.




(https://i.imgur.com/1kWsF4B.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: crownhill on March 02, 2021, 01:28:38 PM
All Cheveley park horses removed and sent to Henry de bromhead and Willie Mullins


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on March 02, 2021, 01:42:36 PM
The more horses that move the more O'Leary will love it as his bargaining power over Elliott will grow even stronger financially.   He tried to effectively blackmail the handicapper in a similar power grab thinking he would bend because of the pressure for Tiger Roll to enter the GN for pr reasons for the sport.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 02, 2021, 01:50:53 PM
Envoi Allen has gone to De Bromhead.

Irish horse racing board meet Friday

https://mobile.twitter.com/ihrb_ie/status/1366733982839275520 (https://mobile.twitter.com/ihrb_ie/status/1366733982839275520)

Thought the same Arbboy, he will be twisting the knife in to Elliott in his own way.  To be fair to O'Leary, if the likes of Delta Work have to miss Cheltenham, Aintree and Punchestown then he should get a reduction in fees.

Think he'll get a short suspension, though he probably deserves an extra month just for the explanation he gave of events. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2021, 01:51:43 PM
All Cheveley park horses removed and sent to Henry de bromhead and Willie Mullins

Presumably Envoi Allen will now shorten up after yesterday's wobble?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 02, 2021, 02:09:08 PM
All Cheveley park horses removed and sent to Henry de bromhead and Willie Mullins

Presumably Envoi Allen will now shorten up after yesterday's wobble?

I don't think the bookies really lengthened it.  It should be a bit bigger now simply because the horse may not settle in well?  A new jockey is unlikely to be a positive either?  Though I do rate Rachael Blackmore, if it will be her, and though it looks a straightforward ride, she doesn't really know the horse.  This assumes a jockey change, though that may not happen before Cheltenham?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 02, 2021, 02:36:04 PM
2nd statement much better than the first, and maybe would have been better waiting to give a sensible one first time around.

I told better stories when I was late back to Dryad, after a Tuesday night at Pyramids!

Doubt there will be new jockeys, I'd imagine CPS will look for the jockeys to retain their rides, and mimimise any upheaval.

Not like Gordon is riding any of them.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2021, 02:55:13 PM
2nd statement much better than the first, and maybe would have been better waiting to give a sensible one first time around.

I told better stories when I was late back to Dryad, after a Tuesday night at Pyramids!

Doubt there will be new jockets, I'd imagine CPS will look for the jockeys to retain their rides, and mimimise any upheaval.

Not like Gordon is riding any of them.

Just seen an interview with CPS & they stated exactly that, it was their wish for the existing jockeys to be retained.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 02, 2021, 03:00:50 PM
2nd statement much better than the first, and maybe would have been better waiting to give a sensible one first time around.

I told better stories when I was late back to Dryad, after a Tuesday night at Pyramids!

Doubt there will be new jockeys, I'd imagine CPS will look for the jockeys to retain their rides, and mimimise any upheaval.

Not like Gordon is riding any of them.

He rides live ones too?


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 02, 2021, 03:03:55 PM

Ouch.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 02, 2021, 03:11:51 PM
2nd statement much better than the first, and maybe would have been better waiting to give a sensible one first time around.

I told better stories when I was late back to Dryad, after a Tuesday night at Pyramids!

Doubt there will be new jockeys, I'd imagine CPS will look for the jockeys to retain their rides, and mimimise any upheaval.

Not like Gordon is riding any of them.

He rides live ones too?

Not any more.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 03, 2021, 07:56:28 PM

Hollie Doyle has just won 5 on the bounce at Kempton, with one more ride to come.

Amazing.

There'll be a few run-ups for the bookies there I'd imagine.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on March 03, 2021, 08:20:48 PM

Hollie Doyle has just won 5 on the bounce at Kempton, with one more ride to come.

Amazing.

There'll be a few run-ups for the bookies there I'd imagine.

Ha, got laid at 15/1 earlier on betfair, now 5/2 everywhere

edit.  looks like it was best priced 13/2 overnight (with Sky obv). 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 03, 2021, 08:27:08 PM

Ooh, so close, thought she had the six-timer there.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on March 05, 2021, 05:40:34 PM
BREAKING: One year suspension for Gordon Elliott, with the last six months suspended. He has agreed not to attend race meetings for six months. Suspension to begin on 9 March.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Chompy on March 05, 2021, 05:45:51 PM
Hollie has a genuine chance of becoming champion jockey this season I think. Last season Hill's got it wrong putting her in off +70 on the handicap  ;bigadz; ;bigadz;

10-1 seems fine.

Oisin says he's going for it again but who knows how the establishment will react to last year's happenings?

Buick only had a crack in the autumn because he was still close enough in a weird year and he was just happy to be busy again after a long injury. I don't see him doing the Friday evening Newcastle trips for eight rides in 0-55s again this time round.

Curtis's chances have not been improved by the Johnston link-up for me. I'd say that'll hamper him if anything and it may take him down south for too many festivals for him to run up the numbers.

I can see Hollie and her boyf finishing 1-2 in either order.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on March 05, 2021, 06:37:41 PM

Thanks Mr W.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on March 05, 2021, 07:20:20 PM
Seems about right as a punishment to me for the offense.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 05, 2021, 07:21:20 PM
Definitely.

Misses all spring festivals, but staff don't lose out anymore than they already have.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on March 05, 2021, 07:21:41 PM

Thanks Mr W.

Good luck all who can get on!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 03, 2021, 08:35:33 PM

Richard Johnson: Leading jump jockey in shock retirement



https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/56615202




(https://i.imgur.com/JmKB0my.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on April 03, 2021, 08:54:32 PM

Richard Johnson: Leading jump jockey in shock retirement



https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/56615202




(https://i.imgur.com/JmKB0my.jpg)

I saw this earlier and don't get why you wouldn't just wait a week for Aintree.  Maybe he was just going to get no really good horses? 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on April 03, 2021, 09:21:42 PM
Dicky had his first winner 3 weeks after i had my first ever bet on the national in 1994.  Amazing longevity for a NH jockey.   Proper legend.   Run into the GOAT 16 times runner up champion jockey.  Strange timing for his low key departure but he said he wanted to go out on a Hobbs trained horse.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 03, 2021, 09:27:57 PM
Dicky had his first winner 3 weeks after i had my first ever bet on the national in 1994.  Amazing longevity for a NH jockey.   Proper legend.   Run into the GOAT 16 times runner up champion jockey.  Strange timing for his low key departure but he said he wanted to go out on a Hobbs trained horse.

Extraordinary, isn't it? What heart he has.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on April 03, 2021, 09:40:00 PM
It really is because as soon as AP retired he won four straight jockeys titles at an age he was way past his peak.   The season is effectively over now and if he was going to hang them up at the end of it nice for him to go out in the SW at a gaff track riding for his boss.  His local track Hereford where he rode his first winner and grew up had a meeting tomorrow cancelled so maybe the plan was to retire there tomorrow but when it was called off he brought it forward to today.  Who knows.  Would make sense.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on April 03, 2021, 10:12:10 PM
It really is because as soon as AP retired he won four straight jockeys titles at an age he was way past his peak.   The season is effectively over now and if he was going to hang them up at the end of it nice for him to go out in the SW at a gaff track riding for his boss.  His local track Hereford where he rode his first winner and grew up had a meeting tomorrow cancelled so maybe the plan was to retire there tomorrow but when it was called off he brought it forward to today.  Who knows.  Would make sense.

Just checked the Hobbs runners at Aintree and there isn't much so far.  The only runner outside the handicaps is Sporting John, and he is a bit in and out, and there are a few smart ones in his race.  I assume Thyme Hill is still injured so isn't going to run on Saturday.

You can also understand why he wouldn't go out after the National if he was set on retiring (you could really hurt yourself and you couldn't really announce your retirement whilst some other big racing news story was going on.

It probably makes sense now I have thought about it a bit more.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on April 21, 2021, 11:28:36 PM
I am normally a big fan of these bans, but this was Stowell's first race and you wouldn't expect him to go crazy on a first time runner when the other horse went well clear when it was stuck behind horses.  Seriously, did anybody think he was going to get anything other than second when he got clear?

https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/watch-21-day-ban-for-rab-havlin/191153 (https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/watch-21-day-ban-for-rab-havlin/191153)

Presumably Jack Kennedy got a worse ban after his Tiger Roll ride at Aintree?   ;carlocitrone;




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on April 24, 2021, 10:52:55 AM
I am normally a big fan of these bans, but this was Stowell's first race and you wouldn't expect him to go crazy on a first time runner when the other horse went well clear when it was stuck behind horses.  Seriously, did anybody think he was going to get anything other than second when he got clear?

https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/watch-21-day-ban-for-rab-havlin/191153 (https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/watch-21-day-ban-for-rab-havlin/191153)

Presumably Jack Kennedy got a worse ban after his Tiger Roll ride at Aintree?   ;carlocitrone;




https://mobile.twitter.com/LydiaHislop/status/1385862973751713797 (https://mobile.twitter.com/LydiaHislop/status/1385862973751713797)

Lydia Hislop asked John Gosden about this.  Apparently he gives instructions for horses not to be whipped first time out. 

I find it all a bit baffling as you see so many horses given an easy ride first time out that it just doesn't seem odd to see one get an easy ride.  How often do you see an expensive horse really getting a really aggressive ride first time out? If you bet on maidens regularly surely you understand this before betting. 

It is horses that get an easy ride after a couple of runs that are much more concerning.  The Tiger Roll ride was ridiculous as we have all seen him running his heart out before and the horse hasn't even hot many races left, if by some chance they did "ruin" him by making more than a half-arsed effort in that race.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on April 24, 2021, 03:55:20 PM
What a crazy ruling that Kitty's Light can't win that race in the stewards room.  If the winner is thrown out then clearly Kitty's light would have beaten the 2nd place horse who will be awarded the race.  Desperate for channing on BE who put it up as the free bet for the weekend at nearly half the price it went off on bf.  13/2 but sp was 11/1 on bf


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on April 29, 2021, 03:44:02 PM


Being AP, 10pm tonight, BBC Four.

This was made 6 years ago, chronicling the final season of A P McCoy.

Must be a repeat, but might be worth a watch. 




A feature documentary following AP McCoy – the greatest jump jockey of all time. As he passes his 40th birthday, an age beyond which most jockeys are unable to continue, AP contemplates his obsession with winning, the years of sacrifice that he has endured to become the champion he is, the chase for a 20th successive championship and then a future without racing.





(https://i.imgur.com/NdKNQsa.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 09, 2021, 03:07:34 PM
How many times?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/57049450 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/57049450)

Seriously, Baffert should have been permanently banned long ago.  Shambles that he can get caught time and time again and can still have runners. 

I watched the Kentucky Derby and don't think they even mentioned that there was anything controversial about him winning it again. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 12, 2021, 01:43:10 PM
Some astonishing stats on Baffert.  I knew that he had a lot of previous, but he has 5 medication violation in the last 13 months.  I read elsewhere that he had over 30 failed tests in total.  How many positive tests do the authorities need before stopping giving him another chance?   

Even if this was an accident, then you'd think he'd be a bit more careful if he had just one previous positive, and given this is the Kentucky Derby.   Incredibly, the horse and trainer have got the go ahead to run in the Preakness at the weekend. 

Oh and of course "cancel culture" is to blame.  Seriously.

https://mobile.twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1391763874295291913 (https://mobile.twitter.com/existentialfish/status/1391763874295291913)

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/may/11/bob-baffert-medina-spirit-kentucky-derby-drugs-test-steroid (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/may/11/bob-baffert-medina-spirit-kentucky-derby-drugs-test-steroid)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 12, 2021, 03:26:27 PM
Racing over there sounds pretty scummy, by all accounts.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 14, 2021, 12:44:17 PM

Sporting Life give their take on Baffert.


https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/us-racing-on-the-canvas/191716


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 14, 2021, 02:08:45 PM

Sporting Life give their take on Baffert.


https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/us-racing-on-the-canvas/191716

Here is the New York Times putting the boot in, in 2019

https://tuesdayshorse.wordpress.com/2019/09/12/bob-baffert-justify-and-the-chemical-triple-crown/ (https://tuesdayshorse.wordpress.com/2019/09/12/bob-baffert-justify-and-the-chemical-triple-crown/)

Some of the other stuff there is astonishing to.  This one caught the eye. 

https://tuesdayshorse.wordpress.com/2013/04/11/baffert-horses-big-part-of-sudden-death-spike/
 (http://)

California racing saw a sharp increase last year in the number of fatalities due to cardiac failures. Eleven horses were reported as having died in this manner during fiscal year 2012 ...

Equally concerning is that a reported seven out of the 11—or 64%—of the horses that died from cardiac failure statewide had been stabled with leading Southern California trainer and Hall of Famer Bob Baffert

“It’s disturbing and unnatural,” said one trainer based at Betfair Hollywood Park, who spoke on the condition of anonymity about the number of sudden deaths he’s seen...  “I’ve been in training for 25 years and not had one..."



Medina Spirirt is favourite for the Preakness on Saturday.  Want to funk against him? The 2nd favourite is trained by... Bob Baffert.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 15, 2021, 11:57:53 PM

Medina Spirit well beaten into 3rd.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 17, 2021, 06:16:26 PM
RIP Joe Mercer.

Famously, the jockey for Brigadier Gerard, Bustino, Kris & so many more, especially those in the care of Major Hern, & later, after his sensational sacking, Henry Cecil.  



(https://i.imgur.com/oLalbby.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 18, 2021, 09:25:40 AM
RIP Joe Mercer.

Famously, the jockey for Brigadier Gerard, Bustino, Kris & so many more, especially those in the care of Major Hern, & later, after his sensational sacking, Henry Cecil.  



(https://i.imgur.com/oLalbby.jpg)


His sacking was before my (racing) time, so had to look it up.  There is a lot of background in this thread in the posts by Bustino74.   https://www.not606.com/threads/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2011.85857/page-8  (https://www.not606.com/threads/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2011.85857/page-8)

Good to see the Baffert horses beaten at the weekend.  I suppose in some ways it is better that happened than having to listen his few remaining supporters spending the next few years moaning about how the horse was "robbed" of the triple crown.  No harm in banning the horse now though...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 18, 2021, 09:44:29 AM
RIP Joe Mercer.

Famously, the jockey for Brigadier Gerard, Bustino, Kris & so many more, especially those in the care of Major Hern, & later, after his sensational sacking, Henry Cecil.  



(https://i.imgur.com/oLalbby.jpg)


His sacking was before my (racing) time, so had to look it up.  There is a lot of background in this thread in the posts by Bustino74.   https://www.not606.com/threads/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2011.85857/page-8  (https://www.not606.com/threads/prix-de-larc-de-triomphe-2011.85857/page-8)

Good to see the Baffert horses beaten at the weekend.  I suppose in some ways it is better that happened than having to listen his few remaining supporters spending the next few years moaning about how the horse was "robbed" of the triple crown.  No harm in banning the horse now though...

That's a very good post by "Bustino".

There was an interview on Sky Sports Racing with Joe Mercer last night, a repeat, obv, but very enjoyable. It was quite clear that Joe Mercer & Willie Carson did not have much respect for each other.  

I so remember the day Mercer's departure from West Ilsley was announced, it was huge news at the time. It worked out ok for him in the end though, he became Cecil's #1 & was Champion Jockey a few years later. He was then succeeded by Piggott, who had parted company with the Vincent O'Brien/Sangster crew. I was no judge of these things, but Piggott aside, I always thought Joe Mercer was the best jockey of his era, certainly better than Eddery, Hide, Carson & Co.  

Baffert? I noticed he chose not to attend Saturday's Preakness. And as it happened, the result was probably what most of us wanted.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 23, 2021, 08:31:08 PM

Barney Curley has passed away.


https://www.racingpost.com/news/barney-curley/barney-curley-legendary-punter-and-former-trainer-dies-at-the-age-of-81/487501




(https://i.imgur.com/MS1uhcT.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 23, 2021, 08:51:33 PM
Don't mess with Barney.



YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUU0AlrNSt4


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on May 23, 2021, 11:22:42 PM
Don't mess with Barney.



YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUU0AlrNSt4

Easily the greatest interview both sides of the micro phone in the history of racing media.  I think this interview made Luke Harvey as well in the media.  RIP the greatest ever to land a proper proper touch numerous times.   The telephone box story in Ireland in the dark ages is stuff of legend to stop the off course firms sending money back to the track.   Impossible in the modern day but he was always miles ahead of any era.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on May 24, 2021, 10:26:12 AM


Barney's big one;


https://www.theirishfield.ie/from-the-archives-barney-curleys-four-timer-betting-coup-173070/


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 24, 2021, 02:57:47 PM
That interview does make me laugh, and he was always good at the preview evenings, too.

RIP a gambling legend.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on June 02, 2021, 09:53:51 PM



https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/churchhill-downs-suspends-trainer-bob-baffert-years-derby/story?id=78040625


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on June 02, 2021, 10:12:38 PM



https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/churchhill-downs-suspends-trainer-bob-baffert-years-derby/story?id=78040625

Only at The Kentucky Derby !!!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on June 02, 2021, 10:34:49 PM



https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/churchhill-downs-suspends-trainer-bob-baffert-years-derby/story?id=78040625

Only at The Kentucky Derby !!!

It is all Churchill Downs Incorporated tracks, which include churchill Downs and Arlington Park.  I checked the original statement here.

https://www.kentuckyderby.com/uploads/wysiwyg/assets/uploads/20210602_Baffert_Suspension.pdf (https://www.kentuckyderby.com/uploads/wysiwyg/assets/uploads/20210602_Baffert_Suspension.pdf)

There seems a good chance we end somewhere else after appeal, but I'll be pleased if they can hold the line here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 02, 2021, 11:10:38 PM
Throw him in the sea!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on June 04, 2021, 04:44:32 PM

16 lengths. Unbelievable.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 04, 2021, 05:07:51 PM

16 lengths. Unbelievable.

Skated away there!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on June 18, 2021, 12:20:12 PM

Everything the Hearns touch turns to gold. If it's not the Dad or the Son, it's the wife now.


https://twitter.com/BarryHearn/status/1405554133826998277


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 18, 2021, 01:26:54 PM

Everything the Hearns touch turns to gold. If it's not the Dad or the Son, it's the wife now.


https://twitter.com/BarryHearn/status/1405554133826998277

Katie is well involved in the Matchroom gold, too. Both obv cut from the same cloth.

Joe Markowski from DAZN gave her a big shout out regarding that deal getting done :)

Only met her a few times when she was into playing poker and used to play the same at comps as her fella sometimes. Lovely girl, and a good laugh.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on June 18, 2021, 01:50:55 PM

Everything the Hearns touch turns to gold. If it's not the Dad or the Son, it's the wife now.


https://twitter.com/BarryHearn/status/1405554133826998277

Katie is well involved in the Matchroom gold, too. Both obv cut from the same cloth.

Joe Markowski from DAZN gave her a big shout out regarding that deal getting done :)

Only met her a few times when she was into playing poker and used to play the same at comps as her fella sometimes. Lovely girl, and a good laugh.


Barry used to give Katie & Ed $10,000 at Xmas every year to play the WSOP Main. Katie played it every year & bloody loved it. Eddie? He tucked the money away, reckoned he could get a better return investing it in business.

I'm a huge fan of the whole fam.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 18, 2021, 02:21:47 PM

Everything the Hearns touch turns to gold. If it's not the Dad or the Son, it's the wife now.


https://twitter.com/BarryHearn/status/1405554133826998277

Katie is well involved in the Matchroom gold, too. Both obv cut from the same cloth.

Joe Markowski from DAZN gave her a big shout out regarding that deal getting done :)

Only met her a few times when she was into playing poker and used to play the same at comps as her fella sometimes. Lovely girl, and a good laugh.


Barry used to give Katie & Ed $10,000 at Xmas every year to play the WSOP Main. Katie played it every year & bloody loved it. Eddie? He tucked the money away, reckoned he could get a better return investing it in business.

I'm a huge fan of the whole fam.

Haha! I can well believe that. Last time I saw Eddie was in the Tower Suites at the Wynn in 2010, and I think he was over poker by then.

Think he might have invested it in watches, given how many of them he has!

We're the black sheep of blonde in that respect, as I'm exactly the same :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on June 24, 2021, 12:12:16 AM
Jeez.


https://twitter.com/osbornejamie/status/1407807194779750400




(https://i.imgur.com/BJH0btS.jpg)




(https://i.imgur.com/MrrNqy6.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 24, 2021, 04:45:52 AM
Paul might be findiing himself in the nick, with a bit of luck.

What a vile little creature.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on June 24, 2021, 08:55:05 AM
Paul might be findiing himself in the nick, with a bit of luck.

What a vile little creature.

Let's hope so.

Hard to believe there are people like this around. Presumably he backed a horse she was riding & it lost. When the fun stops...


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on June 24, 2021, 09:26:56 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/vh43pCj.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on June 24, 2021, 10:13:14 AM
Makes you wonder why he isn't just backing the other riders in her races?  I wonder who he thinks should do the rapping? 

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6zH6uMyU9c


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: StuartHopkin on June 24, 2021, 11:41:09 AM
And does he want him to shag his horse or a whore?

Very confusing.

To be fair as some one points out on the twitter thread it would appear he may need psychiatric help rather than prison.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 24, 2021, 03:16:13 PM
Back to school, and a good hiding would prob help, too.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on June 27, 2021, 10:36:40 PM



https://twitter.com/AndrewNJHawkins/status/1409015139139915780


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on June 27, 2021, 11:00:10 PM



https://twitter.com/AndrewNJHawkins/status/1409015139139915780


Whack :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on September 30, 2021, 01:44:42 PM

I'd say this was a pretty decent retort by Tom Marquand.



https://twitter.com/TomMarquand/status/1443266586027175943


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on September 30, 2021, 02:16:28 PM

I'd say this was a pretty decent retort by Tom Marquand.



https://twitter.com/TomMarquand/status/1443266586027175943

Haha, very good.

What a bellend Tommyirish is.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on October 22, 2021, 04:12:23 PM
First antepost bet for the Fez placed - Arkle: 1pt win Third Time Lucki @22/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on December 04, 2021, 11:26:19 AM
First antepost bet for the Fez placed - Arkle: 1pt win Third Time Lucki @22/1.

Morning all

Important day for this bet, let’s hope he goes well.

I fancy a couple today:
1. Kamaxos 11/1 E/W 1:15 Sandown Fairly uncomplicated one. Form is solid, improvement is likely, conditions fine and stable in top form. He’s just a bit bigger price than he should be, perhaps because a v unfashionable NH stable, which is no reason at all for pricing up a horse. E/W shape is perfect, short price favourite must be a bit short now. You can get 11/1 pretty much everywhere. I won’t recommend stakes as such, I’m pretty keen though.

2. Highland Hunter 8/1 3:00 Sandown More speculative I guess but the angle is the horse wants testing conditions and it’s nearly always a bit deeper at Sandown than you’d expect from the going description. If it was soft I’d be really keen as I think trip and course suit well. As it is, small win bet at 8/1.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 04, 2021, 11:41:13 AM

Thanks David, great to see you back here.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on December 04, 2021, 11:45:43 AM

Thanks David, great to see you back here.

Thanks Tony, good to be back. Probably an infrequent visitor these days but things have been going well on the horse with all the extra study time I’ve had available and it seemed a good idea to share thoughts here occasionally.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on December 04, 2021, 03:12:40 PM
Very nice tipping kuku

I’m isolating with Covid, so it’s some consolation to be found a couple of winning bets

Cheers!


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on December 04, 2021, 03:15:03 PM
Very nice tipping kuku

I’m isolating with Covid, so it’s some consolation to be found a couple of winning bets

Cheers!

Pleased I could help out😁. Hope you get over the Covid quickly.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on December 04, 2021, 04:16:30 PM
Nice tipping Kuku which probably fortunately for you I missed!

Re. Third Time Lucki, I was really surprised Skelton a) Entered him after his comments following Cheltenham lto and b) Left him in after the going eased.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on December 06, 2021, 11:02:10 PM

Sporting Life give their take on Baffert.


https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/us-racing-on-the-canvas/191716

Here is the New York Times putting the boot in, in 2019

https://tuesdayshorse.wordpress.com/2019/09/12/bob-baffert-justify-and-the-chemical-triple-crown/ (https://tuesdayshorse.wordpress.com/2019/09/12/bob-baffert-justify-and-the-chemical-triple-crown/)

Some of the other stuff there is astonishing to.  This one caught the eye. 

https://tuesdayshorse.wordpress.com/2013/04/11/baffert-horses-big-part-of-sudden-death-spike/
 (http://)

California racing saw a sharp increase last year in the number of fatalities due to cardiac failures. Eleven horses were reported as having died in this manner during fiscal year 2012 ...

Equally concerning is that a reported seven out of the 11—or 64%—of the horses that died from cardiac failure statewide had been stabled with leading Southern California trainer and Hall of Famer Bob Baffert

“It’s disturbing and unnatural,” said one trainer based at Betfair Hollywood Park, who spoke on the condition of anonymity about the number of sudden deaths he’s seen...  “I’ve been in training for 25 years and not had one..."



Medina Spirirt is favourite for the Preakness on Saturday.  Want to funk against him? The 2nd favourite is trained by... Bob Baffert.

Poor horse has died before they finished "investigating" the Kentucky Derby.  Such an unlucky coincidence for the trainer; they keep finding drugs he never puts in his horses and now this, he runs so bad.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/06/medina-spirit-horse-at-heart-of-kentucky-derby-controversy-dies-in-training (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/06/medina-spirit-horse-at-heart-of-kentucky-derby-controversy-dies-in-training)




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on December 08, 2021, 11:03:34 PM
This Frost vs Dunne hearing is just bonkers.  Dunne and his buddies seem to have confirmed that nearly everything was true, but was just "banter".  Almost like they didn't notice how badly that defence worked at Yorkshire all of a few weeks ago.




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: atdc21 on December 09, 2021, 02:32:11 PM
This Frost vs Dunne hearing is just bonkers.  Dunne and his buddies seem to have confirmed that nearly everything was true, but was just "banter".  Almost like they didn't notice how badly that defence worked at Yorkshire all of a few weeks ago.



Guilty as charged


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: arbboy on December 09, 2021, 03:47:42 PM
18 months seems about right given the maximum was 3 years.  Not sure what you would have to do to get the full 3 years. 


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on December 11, 2021, 04:51:51 PM

This is really short notice now (apologies for that) but why not after last week went well. I like Swiss Connection in the next at Newcastle, everything about conditions fine, trainer in form and I’m still convinced a high draw is good over 5 for horses who sit just behind the pace. Lots of 8/1 around.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on December 11, 2021, 05:54:53 PM

This is really short notice now (apologies for that) but why not after last week went well. I like Swiss Connection in the next at Newcastle, everything about conditions fine, trainer in form and I’m still convinced a high draw is good over 5 for horses who sit just behind the pace. Lots of 8/1 around.

Not a bad run in 4th. I didn’t know the wind had switched, so just off the pace from a  high draw not an advantage. Looked to carry a bit of condition after a break, of interest again next time.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on December 22, 2021, 09:49:45 AM
How long before we see Oisin Murphy on the racecourse again - 6 months?

Such a talent, too. I hope he sorts himself out.



https://www.attheraces.com/blogs/kevin-blake/21-December-2021/what-now-for-oisin-murphy



(https://i.imgur.com/bGWjQR4.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on December 22, 2021, 09:58:19 AM
Think this could have big implications

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/21/freddy-tylicki-wins-high-court-case-against-graham-gibbons-for-negligent-riding-horse-racing

Freddy Tylicki has won his high‑court claim against Graham Gibbons for negligent riding which resulted in a fall that left his fellow jockey with life-changing injuries.

I think that DQs and bans for not keeping a horse straight will probably have to become more common.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on December 22, 2021, 11:46:20 AM
Think this could have big implications

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/21/freddy-tylicki-wins-high-court-case-against-graham-gibbons-for-negligent-riding-horse-racing

Freddy Tylicki has won his high‑court claim against Graham Gibbons for negligent riding which resulted in a fall that left his fellow jockey with life-changing injuries.

I think that DQs and bans for not keeping a horse straight will probably have to become more common.


My first thought was this will have big implications, and was a bit unsure about if it was correct.

I then read the judgement yesterday, and don't think it will have big implications and can now see why it was correct.  It is well argued and explains why this case is unusual and why it shouldn't have big implications.  Worth a read for anyone interested in horse racing and the implications for professional sport.

https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/tylicki-v-gibbons/ (https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/tylicki-v-gibbons/)

I think it should lead to more findings of dangerous riding and some longer steward's inquiries.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: doubleup on December 22, 2021, 03:22:44 PM

Quote
In making that finding, I stress that the threshold of liability for negligence is a high
one and has been determined as made out in this case, on its own particular facts. The
finding does not set a precedent either within horse-racing or in sport generally

hmmm seems like a "don't bother appealing" statement directed at presumably Gibbons' insurers. 

The problem is that the current rules allow a horse to keep a race, if it interferes with other horses, unless one of those horses is in close contention.  That means that avoiding interference is a lesser consideration to getting into contention in many jockeys' scale of priorities.  I can't see the BHA ignoring that when considering the judgement.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: kukushkin88 on December 22, 2021, 03:24:20 PM
This is lovely:

 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTpNTK4vC0 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTpNTK4vC0)

Sorry if I messed up the link, it’s been a while.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: 4KSuited on December 22, 2021, 06:31:21 PM
The judgement was a fascinating read. For those that don’t want to read the whole thing, Gibbons was found guilty by dint of his persistent refusal to give ground to Tylicki’s mount, there being an initial contact prior to the second, catastrophic contact.

This hasn’t been a good year for the sport. Let’s hope that 2022 will see some improvement....


Title: Go On My Coqer
Post by: Karabiner on January 07, 2022, 07:26:13 PM
Monsieur Lecoq(or "Lecoe" as EdC prefers to pronounce it)looks to have a very decent chance in tomorrow's 1.50pm at a working-man's price.

Has winning form on soft going, races off a mark 18lbs below its one of two seasons ago and just turned 8yo.

What's not to like about double-figure prices.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Karabiner on January 08, 2022, 04:39:32 PM
Ran an absolute stinker of a race.

The extreme underfoot conditions didn't help.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: tikay on February 22, 2022, 06:33:18 PM

An extended holiday for Oisin;


https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/oisin-murphy-comment-following-14-month-ban-for-transgressions/198657





(https://i.imgur.com/G2tcKLo.jpg)


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on February 22, 2022, 06:45:20 PM
Cork's own Frankie!

Hopefully he can sort himself out, as he has a long career ahead of him if he wants it.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 09, 2022, 03:28:02 PM
Just saw someone slagging off Serpentine's derby... again.

I did genuinely think that he would go on to better things. 

Anyway, there were 3 subsequent Group 1 winners thrashed by Serpentine that day, including one of my favourites in training.  Can anyone name them?  Will even help by including a video of the race

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta9DePj3PNA


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 09, 2022, 07:19:39 PM
Kameko & Mogul are two I am sure have.



Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 09, 2022, 07:37:39 PM
Kameko & Mogul are two I am sure have.



Mogul is right.  Kameko was prior to the Derby, only won a group 2 afterwards.   Still two to go.





Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 10, 2022, 11:39:26 AM
Kameko & Mogul are two I am sure have.



Mogul is right.  Kameko was prior to the Derby, only won a group 2 afterwards.   Still two to go.

[/quote

A good guess, but it's not right. As Roy used to say.

I never have paid much attention to flat racing, so would take me a week :D


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on May 10, 2022, 05:34:21 PM
Kameko & Mogul are two I am sure have.



Mogul is right.  Kameko was prior to the Derby, only won a group 2 afterwards.   Still two to go.

[/quote

A good guess, but it's not right. As Roy used to say.

I never have paid much attention to flat racing, so would take me a week :D

Firstly, the easier one.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVpfIm9fqzY

and here is the more obscure one, smashing up the monster that is Golden Sixty

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7P-F02EznQ




Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Marky147 on May 10, 2022, 07:49:17 PM
Ah, cheers :)

Trust me to mess up the quoting and throw the thread out.


Title: Re: Racing Thread
Post by: Doobs on November 23, 2023, 10:26:48 PM
Bump

4 runners in the Betfair Chase and 4 in the 1965 Chase at Ascot. Pretty depressing National Hunt outside Cheltenham these days, but not quite as depressing as watching some video on Twitter of a walkover in a Warwick novice chase accompanied by someone moaning about the lack of Novice Chases!